1TV — Vremya geroev
20260914 211000 UTC
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[00:00:00] a small payment and are ready to provide
[00:00:03] them not only to governments, but
[00:00:06] to rebels, including groups
[00:00:09] openly associated with Al-Qaeda in Mali,
[00:00:12] is this, in your opinion, something that
[00:00:15] can also be stopped by a single shout from Trump, or are we
[00:00:19] facing a real new danger from
[00:00:22] Kyiv? Of course, we are facing a new
[00:00:25] danger from Kyiv and from... from
[00:00:28] Silicon Valley itself, because
[00:00:31] the way now,
[00:00:33] on the one hand, ethical,
[00:00:37] ethical organized
[00:00:40] leaders and movements, like Dario Madei,
[00:00:42] talk about danger, by the way, Dmitry Medvedev wrote today
[00:00:46] practically such? Dario Madei is the head
[00:00:50] of Anthropic, Anthropic developed a popular cloud model,
[00:00:53] now they've made a model.
[00:00:57] if you like, models, and
[00:01:30] in artificial intelligence, why are we talking about 6-12
[00:01:34] months? The thing is, every 3 months there's a small
[00:01:37] revolution in artificial intelligence, and what
[00:01:40] was a cutting-edge model 3 months ago is now
[00:01:44] twice as slow, already becoming obsolete,
[00:01:48] very, very rapid progress is being made, because they
[00:01:51] are already training themselves on their own data,
[00:01:55] at some point they can indeed accidentally, and as
[00:01:58] a side task. For example, they
[00:02:01] solve some mathematical equation that humanity has always
[00:02:05] solved, and in parallel with that, they accidentally hack
[00:02:08] nuclear power plant systems, in parallel with that, they accidentally
[00:02:12] bring down all the airplanes, and we have full digitization,
[00:02:15] they bring down all the banking system, all the databases,
[00:02:19] that is, they penetrate completely, and they are very good at hacking ours,
[00:02:23] this is a potentially very serious problem in the near future, we have
[00:02:26] very, very little time left, but I am obliged to ask you, you have held
[00:03:30] for many years. in their complexity, they,
[00:03:33] as experts say, are generally not inferior
[00:03:35] to American ones, so I think
[00:03:39] such discussions are going on within the UN, that something needs
[00:03:42] to be done to somehow limit and
[00:03:46] control these new types of weapons, these new types
[00:03:48] of armed struggle, if not prohibit them, you know, we recently
[00:03:52] heard the second bell, I mean
[00:03:55] the COVID epidemic and...
[00:04:30] so that we don't wait for the third one, this was
[00:04:34] a big game, watch all episodes of our program
[00:04:37] on the First Channel website, and we will be on air
[00:04:40] tomorrow,
[00:04:49] on the First Channel, "Time of Heroes", today a rather unusual program
[00:04:53] for me, because, of course, I had a person
[00:04:56] from my native regiment as a guest, a person from my native regiment
[00:05:12] who would have come
[00:05:15] from combat operations
[00:05:18] and would be
[00:05:20] returning there, that is, would still be in the zone
[00:05:24] of the special military operation, of course, I did not have one, especially
[00:05:27] since almost everyone who was in this
[00:05:30] studio were officers, so
[00:05:33] today's broadcast is unusual for me
[00:05:37] also because this is a soldier,
[00:05:40] or rather a guard...
[00:06:12] I had known him by correspondence for quite a long time,
[00:06:16] but by correspondence in the sense that when I came to the front and
[00:06:20] visited my native regiment, I constantly saw, well, modern
[00:06:24] warfare, it's a lot of monitors, and on these monitors everywhere
[00:06:27] it says who is flying, there's Gus flying,
[00:06:30] there's Zyama flying, there's Kazak flying,
[00:06:33] there's someone else flying, and here there were always
[00:06:37] call signs, Chekhov and
[00:06:40] Husky, these were legendary characters, because
[00:06:43] I never ran into them, no matter when you arrived, where are they,
[00:06:47] they're on combat duty, where are they, they're in positions,
[00:06:50] sometimes it happened that I arrived there within a month,
[00:06:54] two or three, and they were always in positions, here
[00:06:57] Chekhov, where's Chekhov, Chekhov is in position, and how long has he been in position, well, like
[00:07:01] 3 months in position, and he still hasn't come out,
[00:07:05] we managed to meet him literally recently, and
[00:07:09] even that was completely by chance, because on the eve of my...
[00:07:13] from those places where my native regiment is now,
[00:07:16] he was withdrawn from his position, only thanks to this we met,
[00:07:19] well, and I have many more questions for him, besides those that I
[00:07:23] asked when we met, so I decided that it would be interesting
[00:07:27] for us to listen to this together with you, let's go!
[00:07:59] Well, since I started by saying that you and I met in person, but we
[00:08:03] didn't have much time to talk, we will start,
[00:08:07] nevertheless, with a question that I always ask everyone who
[00:08:10] comes here from... let's say, from
[00:08:13] front-line soldiers, the call sign Chekhov, this one
[00:08:17] that I have already remembered for quite a long time, you know, as such
[00:08:20] a legendary one, Chekhov, Chekhov is flying, and I remember, it was always something
[00:08:24] difficult, so let Chekhov fly there, let Chekhov fly there, why
[00:08:28] Chekhov? In general, there is nothing symbolic, in principle,
[00:08:31] when it was time to choose a call sign,
[00:08:35] I remembered this writer, because once I
[00:08:38] read in a moving train on...
[00:09:42] in the last six months there were no tanks, but also
[00:09:46] dugouts and accordingly infantry,
[00:09:49] aha, well this raid and accordingly
[00:09:53] the one you listed, because from January to the present, another
[00:09:57] 8 months have passed, this entire cumulative
[00:10:00] effectiveness of yours, what approximate number, I don't know
[00:10:04] what you call combat sorties or what it's called,
[00:10:08] more than 5,000 combat sorties have been made,
[00:10:11] this is with radio drones. With drones
[00:10:15] on FPV 5,000, yes,
[00:10:18] aha, and this is despite the fact that
[00:10:22] you became a UAV operator, I understand,
[00:10:25] since autumn 2023, approximately
[00:10:29] since autumn, yes, since December, perhaps, how long do you spend
[00:10:33] on combat positions, from where you fly, how often are you
[00:10:36] there? Well, as soon as the Kursk adventure began,
[00:10:39] as soon as the enemy entered our country from this region,
[00:10:43] the pilots were in positions almost non-stop, only
[00:10:47] when maybe something changed direction, they left
[00:10:50] for a couple of days, changed into new clothes, so to speak,
[00:10:53] and drove on.
[00:10:56] That is, all the time that combat operations were going on
[00:10:59] in the Kursk region, you practically flew all that time
[00:11:03] and yes, practically all the time until the moment
[00:11:06] the Kursk region was completely liberated, we were in positions and
[00:11:10] worked daily, I had one vacation, maybe for 15
[00:11:14] days there, that's it, besides
[00:11:18] the quantitative measurement
[00:11:20] of the effectiveness or efficiency of the UAV
[00:11:24] operator, there is also, let's say,
[00:11:27] a criterion such as the amount of damage inflicted on the enemy,
[00:11:31] I understand that someone also calculates this, did anyone calculate
[00:11:35] this for your work? Yes, we have an analytical center
[00:11:38] at the Popular Front, which daily
[00:11:40] reviews videos, on the basis of which this
[00:11:44] statistics generally arises, we upload our
[00:11:47] videos as reports
[00:11:50] to messengers, then the analytical center reviews
[00:11:53] all this and keeps statistics.
[00:11:57] how much of what was hit, at what moment, this is not only
[00:12:00] for me, it is kept for every operator from the front, for every
[00:12:03] operator, yes, that is, the guys there do a lot of work
[00:12:07] and how much is on your account,
[00:12:10] according to the Popular Front's calculations, this, what is it,
[00:12:14] damage to the enemy in money, well, something over
[00:12:16] 70 million dollars, you say it like that,
[00:12:20] something like 70 million dollars, because
[00:12:24] we are fighting not for something beautiful, a picture or something
[00:12:27] beautiful to say, we are fighting
[00:12:29] because
[00:12:31] we want to show some result
[00:12:35] in terms of making the enemy immobilized,
[00:12:37] de-energized,
[00:12:39] and scared, and so on, so all these are frames
[00:12:43] of your specific work, that is, these are not some
[00:12:46] background frames, we often have background frames of destruction,
[00:12:50] these are all frames of your work, here, I understand,
[00:12:53] both automotive
[00:13:07] equipment and...
[00:13:09] T-64, well, something around 13, these are exactly destroyed,
[00:13:13] that is, there were many more hit, which, unfortunately, drove away,
[00:13:17] so we only count what burned,
[00:13:19] and I understand that this Abrams, the only one,
[00:13:23] is on your account. This was the Kursk
[00:13:27] region, yes, the village
[00:13:28] of Novoivanovka,
[00:13:31] uh-huh, and this was the first Abrams hit,
[00:13:35] I think, in the Kursk region, destroyed in the Kursk region,
[00:13:37] yes, but it also, as far as I
[00:13:41] know, was not burned, it was evacuated, and it is
[00:13:44] somewhere in some place, that is, you hit it, but
[00:13:48] it remained intact, not burned,
[00:13:51] that is, it was out of order, as I understood, that they could not continue.
[00:14:47] Do you have an option to decide yourself how to work, where to work, on whom to work, or is it always
[00:14:50] a specific task set by someone? Well, in
[00:14:54] any case, it's a task
[00:14:55] that we perform,
[00:14:58] but now there's a more lenient attitude towards
[00:15:01] drone use after a year of working
[00:15:05] on them. The possibility of free hunting appeared, that is,
[00:15:09] independent flights along possible
[00:15:12] routes, possible approaches where the enemy might be moving.
[00:15:15] Ambushes were also set up, they began
[00:15:19] to be set up, meaning legs are attached to the drone, you sit on
[00:15:22] the road or near the road, these are the so-called "waiters," and you wait
[00:15:26] for the enemy to pass. If you
[00:15:28] fly, as you say, in free hunting
[00:15:31] mode, do you have any
[00:15:34] target priority?
[00:15:39] Well, what if you can fly to one place
[00:15:41] or you see something else, how do you set this
[00:15:45] priority for yourself, what is primary for you, where will you fly
[00:15:48] first, if there is such an opportunity? In any case, we will first
[00:15:52] destroy armored vehicles, artillery, and
[00:15:56] manpower, that is, for example,
[00:15:59] if a pickup truck stops, and they
[00:16:01] see you, then it is better to hit the manpower, because
[00:16:05] there will be no one to evacuate this pickup.
[00:16:10] Well, that's the priority, I guess. Is any heavy armored equipment
[00:16:14] still being used in the area where you work?
[00:16:17] We haven't seen any for, probably, more than 8
[00:16:21] months. To encounter a moving IFV or tank
[00:16:24] is a great stroke of luck. That is, in just
[00:16:28] 8 months, we probably only saw two IFVs, and even then
[00:16:31] it was foggy, the enemy thought that we wouldn't be able to fly
[00:16:34] and hit them. Again,
[00:16:37] the FPV drones have the ability to fly low,
[00:16:40] so the fog is more
[00:16:43] lenient there, and we caught
[00:16:46] the enemy by surprise, so to speak, uh-huh.
[00:16:49] When we talk about NATO
[00:16:52] equipment, you have to,
[00:16:56] accordingly, understand and study where their weak
[00:16:59] points are, yes,
[00:17:02] as the scope
[00:17:05] of application expands,
[00:17:09] that is, with the appearance of FPV drones in the troops, we have
[00:17:13] all this interaction happening via the Internet with technical support
[00:17:16] and also
[00:17:19] wonderful people who are always 24/7 on call,
[00:17:23] they will help you in any case if you have any defect or failure with the equipment
[00:17:26] or something doesn't work, and also
[00:17:29] these people, as
[00:17:32] a large number of drones appeared, started creating
[00:17:36] a manual on
[00:17:38] how to correctly attack enemy equipment,
[00:17:42] specifically NATO equipment, where its weak points are,
[00:17:45] and accordingly, you can easily study everything,
[00:17:49] if you, for example, today hit some
[00:17:53] Canadian-made armored combat
[00:17:55] vehicle, you realized that you couldn't set it on fire the first time,
[00:17:59] you open this manual, look at it, and the next time
[00:18:03] you make different decisions, but for
[00:18:06] the manuals to appear, someone has to report data for these manuals,
[00:18:10] in your case, when you were just starting to work and there was still a lot of
[00:18:13] equipment, you had to make discoveries
[00:18:16] yourself about which Western
[00:18:20] equipment to hit, where best to hit it, we actually
[00:18:24] accidentally discovered a good vulnerable part of the American
[00:18:27] Bradley, when in
[00:18:30] the area of the same settlement of Novoivanovka,
[00:18:34] it was driving towards me, and I was flying, well, towards it.
[00:18:37] I had already stopped, hovered over the road, it just, roughly speaking, ran over the drone with its undercarriage
[00:18:41] and immediately caught fire, as it turned out, their fuel tank
[00:18:45] was there, uh-huh, and
[00:18:48] we burned five more Bradleys over the next month using the same
[00:18:52] principle, and, well, of course,
[00:18:55] we told everyone about it, well, we always share
[00:18:58] information, and based on that, some video
[00:19:02] lessons were even created by the guys
[00:19:05] who produce KVN, uh-huh. How to hit, why to hit,
[00:19:09] that is, you learn yourself in the process, there is
[00:19:13] a generalization, accumulation of data, which every
[00:19:16] operator can then view, yes, that's right,
[00:19:19] now we rewind to the conversation about how you got to
[00:19:23] this point, where it all began, that is,
[00:19:27] the army was initially your goal,
[00:19:31] the army, military service, how did you get into
[00:19:34] the army, did you always dream about it or how did it happen?
[00:19:48] class made such a decision to also enter a military school,
[00:19:51] the Academy of Logistics in St. Petersburg,
[00:19:55] a technical institute, I understand, yes, but it has a technical
[00:19:58] institute, and so I went there, it turns out, in
[00:20:02] July 2015, well, unfortunately, I didn't get in, I didn't
[00:20:06] pass the competition. And then
[00:20:10] I started ordinary studies at civilian universities,
[00:20:13] after that, in 2019, I finished
[00:20:16] and signed a contract with the 56th brigade, uh-huh,
[00:20:20] the 56th brigade, it was still a brigade at that time,
[00:20:22] which at that time was located
[00:20:25] in Kamyshin.
[00:20:30] Well, you were born, I understand, you in Moscow,
[00:20:33] I was born in Moscow, yes, my father was at that time...
[00:20:37] served here in Moscow, because of this
[00:20:41] it happened that, well, I lived the first month of my life here and then we moved there, that
[00:20:44] is, you're a Kamyshin kid, yes, I'm a Kamyshin kid,
[00:20:48] but that's what caught me.
[00:21:20] was a waiter during my studies, and sometimes even worked in my profession,
[00:21:23] so it had absolutely no relation to the army or technical
[00:21:27] specialties, that is, you were confidently
[00:21:30] pursuing a civilian career, judging by
[00:21:33] the photos I saw, all sorts of studies
[00:21:36] there, in student
[00:21:39] theaters you played and so on, this
[00:21:43] guy, who, judging by this photo
[00:21:47] in an armchair with a bow tie and so on, everything, in principle,
[00:21:50] you liked civilian life? Yes, in principle, we
[00:21:54] always like everything. So, you liked all that in
[00:21:57] civilian life. I understand that you're in a waiter's uniform,
[00:22:01] performing somewhere on stage, and in 2019,
[00:22:04] you sign a contract. Why? Well, it happened that after
[00:22:08] studying at the university, you have to do conscript service,
[00:22:12] but now we have the opportunity to immediately
[00:22:15] sign a contract for 2 years, so it was
[00:22:19] decided to sign a contract, because I was already working, earning
[00:22:22] money, and well, helping my family, I couldn't afford
[00:22:25] not to have some monthly income. What was your specialty?
[00:22:29] A radio telegraphy mechanic, a signalman, roughly speaking,
[00:22:33] in the signals company, I signed a contract. Well, it happened that some
[00:22:36] of my friends and acquaintances served in this unit,
[00:22:40] and therefore it was decided to go there,
[00:22:43] uh-huh, because it was easier, so, in 2019,
[00:22:46] after signing the contract, in 2021, when the regiment
[00:22:50] moved to Feodosia, you moved with it, yes, you extended the contract
[00:22:54] for a year, but why did you extend it, you could have not extended it,
[00:22:57] I had a wonderful commander who died in 2022, whom I
[00:23:01] followed, well, with whom I wanted to serve, in February 2022
[00:23:05] combat operations begin, how did you generally
[00:23:08] meet all this, what were your thoughts
[00:23:11] about this, ideas, feelings, sensations, that
[00:23:14] you got into, well, almost immediately,
[00:23:17] I assume, into such a powerful
[00:23:20] fight, yes, for most it was a surprise,
[00:23:24] but
[00:23:27] frankly, when I was applying for the contract, my late
[00:23:30] commander asked me such a question, he said we are a combat unit,
[00:23:34] we go on combat missions, are you ready for this? I said, of course, I am ready,
[00:23:38] with this thought, with this conviction,
[00:23:41] accordingly, we accepted what
[00:23:45] began with the beginning of combat operations, and
[00:23:49] well, a paratrooper is always ready,
[00:23:52] no other way,
[00:23:55] uh-huh, and I understand that the first
[00:23:58] stage of participation in the SVO for you was also
[00:24:01] in the signals platoon, in the signals company, that's right, in the signals company,
[00:24:05] there was a specific position, I walked with
[00:24:08] a radio station next to the regimental chief of staff,
[00:24:12] so that he was constantly in contact, uh-huh,
[00:24:15] that's called a radio operator's position,
[00:24:19] and accordingly, where
[00:24:22] was that moment, and I'm interested, where was that
[00:24:25] moment when you, well, a radio telegrapher,
[00:24:29] a signalman, radios,
[00:24:32] and how did you get into drones? Well, at that moment, I assume there were no
[00:24:36] drones anyway, uh-huh, this
[00:24:40] moment, when people already having combat experience and a combat specialty,
[00:24:44] like in your case, how did it start with drones? In 2023,
[00:24:47] I was already serving in the airborne assault battalion,
[00:24:50] well, also... in the signal platoon, and the opportunity
[00:24:54] arose to train on
[00:24:57] FPV, to start working on FPV,
[00:25:00] uh-huh, by this time, calculations began to form
[00:25:03] in the regiment's reconnaissance company, they already started flying
[00:25:07] slowly, Husky trained, they already had combat
[00:25:10] applications, combat sorties, and we
[00:25:13] went to Belgorod, there were just experienced
[00:25:17] guys who understood how the drone is built, how the radio equipment
[00:25:20] is built, uh-huh. They shared all this experience with us,
[00:25:24] taught us, we already saw numerous photos
[00:25:26] of your training,
[00:25:30] when you were young, did you play video games, did you have any
[00:25:33] gaming experience, yes, we, with the guys,
[00:25:36] often sat at the computer, played together,
[00:25:40] went somewhere or stayed at home, I had experience, but
[00:25:44] I'll say, everyone thinks that it's somehow
[00:25:47] interconnected, well, here...
[00:25:51] there is no connection, you control a drone, which flies on
[00:25:54] blades, well, due to some movements, I don't know, I didn't see any
[00:25:58] connection with games at all, to be honest.
[00:26:02] You don't see a connection with games from the perspective
[00:26:06] of controlling a drone, but from the perspective of selecting
[00:26:09] people for training, could this play a role? Well, let's
[00:26:12] say, I never played video games, I don't know
[00:26:16] what that gamepad is or whatever you call it, joystick,
[00:26:19] shmoystick, and so on, did that play a role then in selecting those
[00:26:23] who would go to study? No, no, it didn't play a role then, here you really just need to
[00:26:27] be
[00:26:30] able to adapt to different situations and
[00:27:02] but not the most important thing, when we came to training,
[00:27:06] the guys showed us their videos, I saw their work, how they
[00:27:10] hit tanks at that time, and cars, and, of course,
[00:27:13] we had great motivation to develop quickly in this,
[00:27:17] and we saw in it an interesting future,
[00:27:21] you, your comrades,
[00:27:23] understanding that you were mastering a new military specialty and seeing its
[00:27:27] effectiveness in these videos, could you
[00:27:30] imagine that this would become?
[00:27:32] In fact, well, for the most
[00:27:35] part, an instrument of a new
[00:27:38] type of war, we probably didn't imagine it on such a scale,
[00:27:41] but there was some understanding that this is
[00:27:45] the future, it's worth working with,
[00:27:48] and it's worth developing it by leaps
[00:27:52] and bounds, it can certainly change even more
[00:27:55] and improve due to the fact that
[00:27:58] now both we and the enemy
[00:28:01] are starting to actively master artificial
[00:28:05] intelligence, soon
[00:28:08] drones will fly independently, hit targets
[00:28:11] independently, I suppose, because
[00:28:14] progress does not stand still, war is our engine of progress,
[00:28:18] so yes, I think,
[00:28:21] it can certainly change everything even more,
[00:28:25] and what will happen then to your profession, to drone operators,
[00:28:29] if artificial intelligence will, as you say, occupy
[00:28:32] more and more of the niche?
[00:28:35] Or will the role of humans still be, well,
[00:28:39] inevitable?
[00:28:41] Well, artificial intelligence won't be a panacea, in any case,
[00:28:45] physical control will be
[00:28:48] necessary, well, that's probably already in the realm
[00:28:51] of science fiction, that robots will replace us,
[00:28:54] by the way, I wanted to ask you not about robots replacing you,
[00:28:58] you as, well, a practitioner,
[00:29:00] yes, with great experience,
[00:29:33] it will come true from the point of view of you, a practitioner, who explains
[00:29:36] all this on his fingers,
[00:29:40] well, combat operations are always associated
[00:29:42] with people, in any case, with
[00:29:45] occupying, seizing some lines, that
[00:29:49] is, liberating, as we had in the Kursk
[00:29:52] region, settlements, again, from the enemy,
[00:29:55] therefore,
[00:29:57] honestly, probably some movies might be, well, if there are robots
[00:30:01] just without physical participation of people,
[00:30:04] no, I don't see that, it was the battles in the Kursk
[00:30:08] region that, in fact, became
[00:30:11] the first experience of mass use of
[00:30:13] fiber optics, and I understand that you were one of those
[00:30:17] who first started flying with this
[00:30:20] fiber optics, when did you first encounter this
[00:30:24] fiber optic technology, and how did you initially
[00:30:27] evaluate it? When I first
[00:30:30] saw it, actually, six months before... before that, someone told me, "Soon there will be drones
[00:30:34] on fiber optics," I twisted my fingers, saying, "What are you talking about?"
[00:30:37] It was incomprehensible, I didn't believe it, I didn't believe it, but I just didn't understand
[00:30:41] technically how it would be implemented, and I didn't think about it,
[00:30:45] so most likely yes, that's why I didn't believe it,
[00:30:48] in 2024, in October,
[00:30:51] at that time, Husky was already flying
[00:30:54] on fiber optics for 2 months, he was lucky enough
[00:30:58] to learn,
[00:31:01] and I was also sent...
[00:31:03] well, they decided that I should also fly on fiber optics, oh, radio,
[00:31:07] well, before that we worked with radio drones with our crew,
[00:31:11] I went to Khaki's position, I arrived.
[00:31:17] He told me how this drone is assembled, what to connect where, how to
[00:31:20] launch it, we made one flight, it was literally a day, well, I
[00:31:24] lived at their position and that's it, the training was over,
[00:31:27] I contacted the KVN instructors,
[00:31:30] we had a conversation, they asked questions, and
[00:31:33] that's it, it turned out the calculation of how much time from the moment
[00:31:37] Husky showed
[00:31:40] you this, told you about it, and answered some of your
[00:31:43] questions, until you, well, to put it
[00:31:46] in such an elevated language, confidently took
[00:31:50] flight, within a week we already
[00:31:53] started flying drones with a button in the window. A week is so
[00:31:56] long because we moved to another position,
[00:31:59] prepared it. In my basement, we
[00:32:03] always worked together with the Mavic crew, that is, short-range
[00:32:06] reconnaissance, and the first two
[00:32:09] drones crashed. Well, something went wrong, maybe I was too nervous
[00:32:12] somewhere. Yes, I was too nervous. It was even a big responsibility
[00:32:16] actually. The first, probably, 100 flights
[00:32:19] were shaky. The first 100 flights, and that was in how much time? 100
[00:32:23] flights - that's in how much time? At
[00:32:26] that time, with a small number of drones, it was probably
[00:32:29] a month, uh-huh, oh no, even 2
[00:32:33] months.
[00:32:35] So, on the third flight, my deceased
[00:32:39] comrade, the sapper, and I were already setting up the drone. At
[00:32:42] that moment, it was a codename, and we saw a Bradley. How it was driving,
[00:32:45] it was, well, about 3 km away from us, driving on a
[00:32:49] hill, and it so happened that we physically saw it and
[00:32:52] hit it, uh-huh, but unfortunately it drove away because back then
[00:32:55] we hadn't discovered the secret yet, yes, we hadn't
[00:32:59] figured out where to hit it. Tell me,
[00:33:02] what makes up
[00:33:05] the secret
[00:33:09] of success when
[00:33:11] a person who has flown FPV, that is, has
[00:33:15] some skills, masters
[00:33:18] a new technology, something like that shows it to him, and he flies? Is
[00:33:22] it a skill, roughly speaking, of hands, or is it due
[00:33:25] to the structure of the mind or character, or some
[00:33:28] things, I don't know, some genetics, what plays
[00:33:32] a role here, that a person succeeds? In your case, for example,
[00:33:35] most likely, it's a combination of everything
[00:33:39] you just listed. A good operator, I believe, should
[00:33:42] wake up with the thought that someone will die today, but
[00:34:15] the opportunity to go online, we watched how other
[00:34:19] operators did something and also highlighted some
[00:34:22] moments for ourselves. So an operator must constantly
[00:34:26] develop, not stand still. This is more
[00:34:29] an internal responsibility,
[00:34:31] to
[00:34:33] show yourself, to prove yourself more
[00:34:36] adequately, well, not to lose face, so to speak, because the whole family
[00:34:40] is officers, I am a sergeant.
[00:34:43] I have to be. A Soviet officer, and
[00:34:56] it so happened that I grew up without a father. My grandfather was a male
[00:34:59] authority figure for me and my family, whom I look up to,
[00:35:02] rely on and take an example from, so to speak. By
[00:35:06] the way, I see, there was a photo just now, he
[00:35:09] has a Red Star, if I'm not mistaken, yes, the Order of the Red Star.
[00:35:13] This is for flights in the Baltic
[00:35:15] Sea, meaning Latvia, Denmark, I understand. So
[00:35:19] over NATO countries. So in this sense, you
[00:35:22] had an interesting situation. Your grandfather flew over NATO countries in
[00:35:25] a plane, and you burn NATO equipment flying
[00:35:29] on fiber optics. Somewhere there were bigger birds, just my
[00:35:33] grandfather had bigger birds, well, and that's how I
[00:35:37] call his bird, yes, yes. He flew on many fighters.
[00:35:40] Well, listen,
[00:35:43] your grandfather had bigger birds...
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[00:40:58] Well, for me, this is a very interesting opportunity, I am sure that for those who
[00:41:02] watch the program, this is a completely new story, in
[00:41:05] modern warfare, these drone operators, and of course, the story of
[00:41:09] how people become them, how this
[00:41:12] experience is gained, how this war changes. You have already
[00:41:15] mentioned KVN several times, about KVN
[00:41:18] manufacturers,
[00:41:20] and I understand that this, let's say,
[00:41:24] connection with them is very...
[00:41:28] exactly with KVN. How does your work with KVN
[00:41:32] players generally get built,
[00:41:35] considering that we are on Channel One? Well, initially,
[00:41:37] when you became an operator... I interrupt. To this day, I still encounter
[00:41:41] the fact that not everyone knows how KVN is deciphered: Prince Vandal Novgorodsky.
[00:41:45] Prince Vandal Novgorodsky.
[00:41:48] Well, it's exclusively a Russian theme, everything started from Rus.
[00:41:52] This idea, all subsequent products,
[00:41:55] accordingly have names of some
[00:41:58] princes, well, in their abbreviation. And what other
[00:42:01] princes are there in the row? For example, Prince Oleg is
[00:42:05] KVO, a reconnaissance aircraft,
[00:42:08] and KVS is Prince Vladimir
[00:42:11] Svyatoslavovich. So, the whole abbreviation is related to
[00:42:14] Novgorod princes and so on. Uh-huh.
[00:42:17] Uh-huh. When I became a drone
[00:42:21] operator on the optical fiber, we were added to the general
[00:42:24] group. We have technical support,
[00:42:27] in which technical support staff are on duty 24/7.
[00:42:31] At any moment, well, if you have internet at
[00:42:35] your position, they will answer any of your questions,
[00:42:38] help you with your problem related to
[00:42:41] drones, well, possibly not even drones,
[00:42:43] there are other
[00:42:46] things. And that's how we worked. Last
[00:42:50] year, they decided to create a factory
[00:42:53] team based on several operators from
[00:42:56] the front. Uh-huh, so we joined this
[00:42:59] team, consisting of five servicemen.
[00:43:02] It was engaged in that
[00:43:04] some innovations came into the drone,
[00:43:08] for example, an initiation board. And
[00:43:10] we conducted combat approbation,
[00:43:14] well, in combat conditions, how a new
[00:43:17] thing would behave, and there all in this team, they are
[00:43:21] um, well, combat, meaning they perform combat missions, yes,
[00:43:25] also famous operators like Katana,
[00:43:28] Buratino, Nebokot, Katana,
[00:43:31] Buratino, Nebokot,
[00:43:34] and Kot, yes, uh-huh,
[00:43:37] and also yes. the unit.
[00:43:54] Look, the fact that
[00:43:58] you are part of this team and that
[00:44:02] you are truly a professional and
[00:44:06] know this equipment and have studied it, was evident in the fact that when...
[00:44:11] someone was needed to, at
[00:44:14] the exhibition of achievements of this
[00:44:17] part of the national economy, talk about these
[00:44:21] drones, they chose you, and they didn't just
[00:44:24] choose you, given the visit of one
[00:44:27] person there, I understand that
[00:44:30] they chose the very best.
[00:44:34] Everything worked out, let's see how it was, we'll remind you,
[00:44:38] everyone else will find out, let's watch. Thanks to the work of the national PC, we are regularly
[00:44:41] supplied with a large number of products, which we successfully use to
[00:44:45] destroy the enemy. It immediately became clear that
[00:44:48] they are promising and effective, and during
[00:44:51] their use, some changes have occurred: night
[00:44:54] cameras have appeared, smaller drones have appeared
[00:44:57] for more effective support of assault groups, when you need to drive the enemy out
[00:45:01] of some hole, so to speak. Extended range
[00:45:04] coils up to 23 km have appeared, which
[00:45:07] allow us to close off distant paths and destroy enemy
[00:45:11] artillery. When I said one person, I meant
[00:45:14] that you already knew, when preparing
[00:45:18] to present all this equipment,
[00:45:21] you knew that the president would be there? Yes, of course, this
[00:45:24] exhibition was designed for him to
[00:45:28] see how everything is happening, how
[00:45:30] it works. Well, he really likes, I
[00:45:34] understand, to be interested in everything,
[00:45:37] to delve into some questions more, more
[00:45:40] detailed and deeper. All products were
[00:45:44] presented there, that is, both radio drones,
[00:45:47] planes, and Baba Yagas
[00:45:50] of our own production, so I had to delve into some things
[00:45:53] because I didn't work on everything, but practically we work on everything,
[00:45:56] we worked while developing, and even if we didn't work,
[00:46:00] we understand how it is structured, how it flies,
[00:46:04] and well, we are always interested in everything, well, we don't stand still,
[00:46:07] we constantly try to understand this information, because
[00:46:10] well, you need to constantly develop in this,
[00:46:14] if you don't, then you probably
[00:46:18] won't achieve the necessary
[00:46:20] success.
[00:46:23] This is July 2025, so accordingly, more
[00:46:27] than a year has passed since then. Compared to what
[00:46:30] and how it was when you told the supreme
[00:46:34] commander about it, and what it is now,
[00:46:38] what has changed from what...
[00:46:52] I presented last year, that is, twice as much in terms
[00:46:55] of distance, yes, there was a coil for a maximum of 23 km, now
[00:46:59] there are already coils for 42 km, 42, yes,
[00:47:03] so the same reconnaissance
[00:47:06] planes now fly better and
[00:47:09] further, and well, a lot of changes have actually
[00:47:12] happened there. Speaking of these
[00:47:15] changes, I often, when on
[00:47:18] the front, when I talk to the guys, hear that...
[00:47:23] we periodically have to catch up with
[00:47:26] the enemy. You say that we fly at
[00:47:29] 42. I have already seen and held in my hands,
[00:47:33] by the way, in our
[00:47:34] regiment,
[00:47:38] an enemy fiber optic drone with a coil for
[00:47:42] 50 km. I heard there are
[00:47:44] 60. These
[00:47:48] races, from your point of view...
[00:48:11] to invent a coil with a long range, because many
[00:48:15] associated problems arise there. It needs to be properly wound so that it unwinds properly,
[00:48:18] there must be specific weather conditions,
[00:48:22] a specific drone must be increased from 10 inches, for
[00:48:26] example, to 15, to carry all this, plus
[00:48:29] ammunition is also needed.
[00:48:31] And
[00:48:34] many associated moments, which,
[00:48:38] yes, because of them, such ideas and projects are
[00:48:42] difficult to implement, but the race will
[00:48:45] always be with the enemy, we try to be
[00:48:49] better in any case, we look at what new
[00:48:52] things he invented, we delve into it, we delve into each
[00:48:56] product, also the KVN factory, it asks
[00:49:00] for a drone on the optical fiber so that it understands
[00:49:02] what the enemy uses, how he works on
[00:49:05] this, so that we understand what to work with, what
[00:49:09] to focus on next, uh-huh.
[00:49:12] And do you have any opportunity to study
[00:49:16] the enemy's experience, how
[00:49:19] do you generally заочно a-uh?
[00:49:22] work with him in this sense, do you study him? What do
[00:49:26] you need to study his experience? Is it
[00:49:29] videos, or do you go into some of their groups? How does
[00:49:32] that generally work? We constantly
[00:49:35] watch, uh, we sit in groups,
[00:49:38] we count what changes they have, well, in
[00:49:42] open sources, accordingly, what new
[00:49:45] things they have. Also, drones that fall to us and don't explode, we
[00:49:49] also either, well, study them ourselves, then give them to technical
[00:49:52] study. Well, that means they are sitting
[00:49:55] with us. It's not excluded, by the way,
[00:49:59] when you fly to a target,
[00:50:03] knowing that in case
[00:50:06] of a successful hit, if you succeed, you will kill
[00:50:10] people there, the better, the more, does this thought about
[00:50:14] people somehow figure in your head, in
[00:50:17] your hands, in your actions
[00:50:20] at that moment?
[00:50:23] Or do you focus on something
[00:50:25] else? We focus on
[00:50:28] the fact that these are people whom we will most likely
[00:50:31] kill, so that they don't approach our advanced positions
[00:50:34] and cause any
[00:50:36] damage
[00:50:39] to us, possibly, and to the guys we serve and
[00:50:42] work with. And what about situations with
[00:50:46] civilians or presumed civilians? Well,
[00:50:49] for example, you flew out, you see a car driving.
[00:50:53] You definitely, here's
[00:50:56] a specific video of your work, where a
[00:50:59] car is driving, and it's clear that you didn't, didn't
[00:51:02] attack it. How is it with you, and
[00:51:06] you, as I understand, after that, according to this caption "no
[00:51:09] image", that this car ripped
[00:51:13] your optics? In this situation, based on what do you make or not
[00:51:16] make a decision? Well, I have a principle in my
[00:51:20] head that I will not work on civilians,
[00:51:22] on women, on children. We have exclusively military
[00:51:25] targets, uh-huh. Well, in my understanding, that's correct, that's how it should
[00:51:29] be. That is, unfortunately, the enemy does not have such
[00:51:32] an understanding. At present, we see what
[00:51:36] is happening, that is, civilians are dying in large
[00:51:39] numbers, but
[00:51:43] we were given weapons to fight the enemy, not
[00:51:46] civilians. This is a very
[00:51:50] important story, and that's why I...
[00:51:53] I'm sure many, well, even the guys who are fighting, many will watch this, some will agree,
[00:51:57] some will not agree. For me,
[00:52:01] well, from the point of view of my profession, this statement of the question is very important.
[00:52:05] Exactly because, as you said, it is at this specific point
[00:52:09] that our difference from the enemy is manifested,
[00:52:12] that
[00:52:15] for us, it is fundamentally not about killing
[00:52:18] anyone, but about killing the enemy. This is
[00:52:21] an important story, because indeed they are now working a lot on civilians
[00:52:25] and on buses and on the peaceful population, and it is very important to remember this,
[00:52:28] because yes, war is war, war is about
[00:52:31] cruelty and about the necessity of killing the enemy, but for me, it was
[00:52:35] very important, why, knowing about this video, why I
[00:52:39] specifically wanted you to talk about it. One more
[00:52:42] story, regarding let's say, balance and
[00:52:45] calmness. Now everyone hangs everything with
[00:52:49] nets, and something else, and something else. Can
[00:52:53] you fly anywhere? Does it
[00:52:56] even make sense to cover yourself with these camouflage
[00:52:59] nets and so on, or will an experienced operator not
[00:53:02] be stopped by it? It hinders. Absolutely, it
[00:53:05] creates direct interference in the work. We
[00:53:09] have often found ourselves tangled in nets when approaching a weapon
[00:53:13] or some enemy shelter, and everything is covered
[00:53:16] with fishing nets. It hinders, but in any case, we will achieve our goal, that is,
[00:53:20] we will burn these nets somewhere, blow them up, so that
[00:53:24] a passage appears. But if
[00:53:26] there is - so to speak,
[00:53:29] a hole, an opening in the net where
[00:53:32] a drone can fit, then we will fly through it. And
[00:53:35] of course, one of our biggest
[00:53:39] headaches for everyone, on all sections
[00:53:42] of the front, are Baba Yagas. And generally enemy
[00:53:46] drones. And I heard that
[00:53:49] now quite often there is
[00:53:52] this war of drones in the air. How often,
[00:53:55] how actively do you work against the enemy?
[00:53:59] Hmm, sometimes you fly on a free hunt, looking for a target, or
[00:54:03] you fly to a specific target? You might meet a Vabnyaga on the way,
[00:54:06] or you know where the enemy has
[00:54:09] UAV crews. They often use matrices and
[00:54:13] Mavics to hang an airborne repeater.
[00:54:17] In principle, you know where this is possible, maybe you
[00:54:20] fly by and a repeater is hanging,
[00:54:23] accordingly, you will destroy it, because well,
[00:54:26] this
[00:54:28] will not kill anyone, but it will create
[00:54:32] a number of problems for them, uh-huh. If you
[00:54:35] fly on a free hunt and you see a Baba Yaga, you
[00:54:39] attack her anyway.
[00:54:43] At first, yes, we always attacked, then I decided
[00:54:46] that I would escort her home and understand where
[00:54:50] the crew was located. That is, several times it happened that we
[00:54:53] flew right behind her, saw how she landed and
[00:54:57] started to leave, we worked on, well, the area of the operators who
[00:55:01] took her, so to speak. This is...
[00:55:35] and you, accordingly, are a priority target for them too, as I understand, right?
[00:55:38] Yes, they spare nothing if they find you, all
[00:55:42] weapons, all drones fly over, we'll have to change
[00:55:45] position immediately. We make fake positions. When we worked with radio drones,
[00:55:49] they often started breaking
[00:55:53] us. Well, FPV drones flew in and specifically targeted our equipment,
[00:55:56] which was set up somewhere, hidden in branches.
[00:55:58] And literally within a week, a lot of our equipment was destroyed.
[00:56:02] We... decided to set up many fake models,
[00:56:06] that is, already broken ones. Well, we carefully covered them
[00:56:10] with tape, and we raised
[00:56:13] our masts for the duration of the flight, hid them in
[00:56:16] corn, then raised them when we needed to fly,
[00:56:19] and hid them back, put them in
[00:56:21] corn.
[00:56:23] Here's the crew, you said the word "crew" several times,
[00:56:27] we with the crew.
[00:56:29] Given that you can be on active duty for several
[00:56:32] months, how do you yourself...
[00:57:05] it's probably more for you to sit in the same hole for 3-4
[00:57:08] months. We are such animals that
[00:57:11] adapt to everything and everyone, so you will get used to everything anyway, to any
[00:57:15] person, well, everyone
[00:57:17] who serves with us is mostly adequate people, so everyone will find a common
[00:57:21] language. I cannot
[00:57:24] not say about this, that I
[00:57:28] wanted to ask you about your awards. I asked
[00:57:32] you this question completely by chance before
[00:57:35] the broadcast. I still, maybe I didn't
[00:57:38] understand something. You just put them on here with
[00:57:40] me on the broadcast for the first time,
[00:57:44] yes, you put on these awards for the first time.
[00:57:48] For the broadcast, so to speak.
[00:57:50] That is, you, you never even, I see you
[00:57:54] were at the exhibition there, so you never
[00:57:58] even put them on? No, I didn't put them on just because
[00:58:01] when to wear them. Were there just
[00:58:05] no occasions, or do you, so to speak, not consider
[00:58:08] it, well, I don't know, yes, firstly,
[00:58:12] yes, there were no occasions,
[00:58:13] and secondly,
[00:58:16] I don't have any desire to show
[00:58:20] off or display them. Uh-huh, well, I
[00:58:23] really hope that - I wish
[00:58:26] you maximum success, first of all, of course, in your combat
[00:58:30] work. I really hope that to these worthy combat
[00:58:34] awards other worthy combat
[00:58:37] awards will be added.
[00:58:40] Here's
[00:58:44] the last question I ask everyone in this...
[00:58:50] Time of Heroes, who in your understanding is a hero?
[00:58:53] How do you understand who a hero
[00:58:56] is?
[00:58:59] A hero is a person who, firstly,
[00:59:02] will not strive to be a hero, will perform
[00:59:05] some things, based
[00:59:08] on his love for humanity, so to speak,
[00:59:12] for his homeland,
[00:59:15] patriotism, which...
[00:59:26] and not to become a hero, who will throw himself into everything for some
[00:59:28] sincere love for something and
[00:59:32] attitude, and
[00:59:35] responsibility. Thank you very much.
[00:59:39] Thank you.
[00:59:45] We were very afraid that this could
[00:59:48] happen. When we realized that the plane with the Greek delegation had landed, we
[00:59:51] crossed ourselves, thanked God, and realized that the saint
[00:59:55] had arrived. We didn't know what we were carrying, we leave, the church choir
[00:59:58] is already singing, we have made our reverence, perhaps it is a miracle. Saint
[01:00:02] Spyridon, his relics are incorruptible, relics, even
[01:00:05] the word itself, is power, power in
[01:00:09] the remains of a saint. All our sisters came out to meet
[01:00:12] the relics, as it should be. Most of the miracles during
[01:00:16] Spyridon's lifetime are connected with
[01:00:19] helping those who need
[01:00:22] money or simply a miracle. This
[01:00:25] certificate that we received for the purchase
[01:00:28] of housing, we keep it as a family relic. Whoever honors
[01:00:32] Spyridon will not be left homeless, as if he is alive,
[01:00:35] walking the earth, helping all those in need, miracles
[01:00:39] of some kind, I just asked, everything
[01:00:42] is already coming true for me. Premiere, special report,
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