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[00:00:30] the elections were held, your feelings, your mood, your
[00:00:33] understanding of this process, because there is an opinion that this is a little more than just
[00:00:37] elections, yes, but for the Green Party, which I represent, the elections
[00:00:41] passed, I would say like this, very
[00:00:44] actively, the party is experiencing a renaissance, we have not been
[00:00:48] in the political arena for a long time, we are precisely those
[00:00:51] who competed with these big parties, that is, we were the
[00:00:55] crucian carp that did not let them doze off, I am very glad that it
[00:00:59] was so. I think that morning will show a lot, morning is wiser than evening
[00:01:02] and more accurate, and I am sure that the results of the Greens
[00:01:06] will be higher across Russia as a whole, Russia is very uneven,
[00:01:09] when we count megacities where the environmental agenda is still
[00:01:13] more relevant, living near a lake, or near a river
[00:01:17] or near an industrial zone are different things, and philosophically
[00:01:20] everything is understood differently, so I
[00:01:23] think that the party's result will grow,
[00:01:25] the second story, which was also very important
[00:01:29] for us, we are building a party, we very
[00:01:32] much hope that in a number of large cities or regions
[00:01:36] our factions will appear, I have just
[00:01:39] надежда, что там появится фракции зелёных, вот я
[00:01:43] thank everyone who
[00:01:47] for this project,
[00:01:50] because you know, we have neither
[00:01:52] forced laborers, I
[00:01:56] это голос по любви, это брак по любви, это очень дорого.
[00:02:00] This is not a small result at all, it is a big result, we are
[00:02:03] generally satisfied with the team's work, satisfied with the elections, and you know, I love
[00:02:07] such asphalt, such
[00:02:11] асфальт мощный, крепкий, и из-под него выбивается
[00:02:14] sprout breaks through it, you've seen such a picture, right? The Green Party
[00:02:18] will be exactly such a sprout that
[00:02:21] will break through such asphalt, something even
[00:02:24] hardened by the last political years, and will become
[00:02:27] a very important, very modern, very necessary
[00:02:30] universal political force, so we are satisfied, Erik
[00:02:33] Narimanovich, how satisfied are you, yes
[00:02:37] with the conduct, but for some reason he always looks at me attentively, somehow
[00:02:40] probing, when he talks about the Pensioners'
[00:02:43] Party, well, the floor is yours, you have the sixth place, by the way, yes,
[00:02:47] it's not over yet, it's already evening, of course, but it's not over yet, yes, it's not
[00:02:50] morning yet, so the Pensioners' Party is convinced that
[00:02:53] the result will grow, I can
[00:02:56] say that the Pensioners' Party is satisfied with the results of the past elections. Why?
[00:03:00] created all the necessary conditions for a relatively small Because we were able to demonstrate
[00:03:03] a very powerful, modern
[00:03:06] campaign that we organized. I am
[00:03:09] grateful to the authorities who
[00:03:15] party, which unfortunately has never been
[00:03:18] parliamentary, to conduct a full-fledged campaign. We
[00:03:22] got access to the media, we participated
[00:03:25] in all debates,
[00:03:29] I participated.
[00:04:00] and became a cyberparty, a quarter
[00:04:02] billion views of our media content, we are leaders among
[00:04:06] all political parties in the Russian Federation, this is an obvious
[00:04:09] fact today. I understand, we tried,
[00:04:12] I think we succeeded in attracting the attention
[00:04:15] of young people to the issues that the party raises, this is the future
[00:04:19] of our country,
[00:04:23] I am convinced that we
[00:04:26] have transformed today, we represent...
[00:05:00] people, I saw
[00:05:02] completely that people voted
[00:05:05] freely, I
[00:05:09] , when I was inside the voting
[00:05:12] station, nobody told me, you can't
[00:05:16] film, you can't ask questions, on the contrary,
[00:05:19] they even offered me, let's take a picture,
[00:05:23] come on, you can freely ask questions, I saw
[00:05:27] everything completely normal, I did not see
[00:05:29] any violations
[00:05:32] of democratic rights, hmm, unfortunately,
[00:05:35] we know, Europe, now, excuse me, Liza, how
[00:05:39] many of you were from Italy, how many?
[00:07:28] with the use of digital counting methods, that is, the use of remote electronic voting, that is, citizens were given
[00:07:31] the opportunity, if you want to vote remotely electronically,
[00:07:34] or with a regular ballot, and
[00:07:38] this opportunity was used by
[00:07:42] several million citizens,
[00:07:45] at the highest level of professionalism,
[00:07:49] we saw members of election commissions on the ground, there was very
[00:07:53] high activity, and then just now it was
[00:07:56] very pleasant for me to hear how representatives
[00:08:00] of the Pensioners' Green Party, who at the moment
[00:08:04] are losing, I'm not saying they are ahead, they
[00:08:06] are thanking how this event was organized,
[00:08:10] yes, by the way, you are right, it is expensive.
[00:08:13] It is expensive, there are no protest actions, no discontent,
[00:08:16] usually how, whoever loses, they are always
[00:08:19] unhappy, they say, they stole it, we send greetings to
[00:08:23] Friedrich Merz again, and the absence of protest actions throughout
[00:08:27] Russia, imagine, more than 91 thousand
[00:08:31] polling stations, this is just joyful, right now
[00:08:34] I hear a lot in the studio that
[00:08:37] some Western countries want
[00:08:40] this...
[00:10:12] In principle, yes, this is enough, but we are required to have the guests in the
[00:10:16] studio say something, please tell us your impressions, your
[00:10:19] mood, your comments on the elections, dear friends, good
[00:10:23] night everyone, a wonderful night, in fact, first of all, I would like to thank
[00:10:25] all
[00:10:30] the people who came to the polling stations, who
[00:10:33] voted by electronic
[00:10:35] voting,
[00:10:37] thank you for coming, because
[00:10:41] in these 3 days the fate of our
[00:10:44] country is indeed being decided,
[00:10:47] but people were deciding not only the common fate, but
[00:10:51] also the fate of themselves, their families, their children.
[00:10:58] The turnout is simply insane, well,
[00:11:01] everyone is talking about it today, I think, only about
[00:11:04] this, yes, people come in a good mood, which
[00:11:07] is important, and despite all the
[00:11:11] terrorist threats,
[00:11:13] fakes, it is clear that we are simply a thorn in the
[00:11:17] throat for many, but the effect was completely
[00:11:21] opposite, not the one they expected.
[00:11:55] Let's look at the latest result now, 45%
[00:11:58] of the protocols have already been processed, yes, these
[00:12:02] CEC data, five parties have passed
[00:12:05] the five-percent barrier, they are passing, further
[00:12:08] we see the layout, five parties are not passing yet, but as they say,
[00:12:12] it's not over yet, yes, as smart people say, as smart
[00:12:15] people say, time will tell, thank you very
[00:12:18] much for participating in our program, thank you to our esteemed viewers, to our
[00:12:22] dear guests, thank you, I will say again, I think it's superfluous, although it has already
[00:12:25] been said several times here, thank you to everyone who voted,
[00:12:29] this is very important, in fact, and this is a little
[00:12:32] more than elections, especially in these
[00:12:55] a pilot, but not the one we are all used to, but the profession
[00:12:58] of the future, a profession that
[00:13:02] is transforming due to the development of unmanned aerial
[00:13:05] systems technologies. Our guests are Kirill
[00:13:09] Fedukovich, a specialist and developer of unmanned aerial
[00:13:12] vehicles, and Dmitriev Kaisin, rector of University
[00:13:16] 2035. What exactly is a drone? I would say,
[00:13:20] very unusually. A drone is
[00:13:23] artificial intelligence that has broken into the
[00:13:27] physical world. I am still speaking
[00:13:31] from the perspective of the future, therefore
[00:13:34] we clearly know and understand that in
[00:13:37] these flying machines there are more and more
[00:13:41] decisions, more and more intelligence, these are already
[00:13:44] algorithms. In this sense, we are used to
[00:13:47] seeing artificial intelligence in the modern world as an application on our
[00:13:51] phone or computer, but now it exists,
[00:13:55] it can fly, we have, at least in
[00:13:58] Moscow, in the city, cute rovers driving around,
[00:14:01] we give way to them, they cross, they begin to live among
[00:14:05] us, so we believe that this is artificial intelligence that is gradually
[00:14:08] beginning to live among us, and what types of drones
[00:14:12] exist in general? I would probably first
[00:14:15] divide them by environments, it's still
[00:14:18] more familiar for us to understand, these are
[00:14:21] flying drones, these are ground drones, water,
[00:14:25] underwater? Further now so-called
[00:14:28] multi-environment drones are developing, which can swim, take off, dive
[00:14:32] back and fly, but further, continuing
[00:14:35] this idea that this is artificial intelligence, we say that
[00:14:39] a satellite is also a drone, by and large it also, in
[00:14:42] fact, flies, makes certain decisions, communicates with other satellites
[00:14:46] with ground stations, and we believe that this droneosphere,
[00:14:50] yes, in the future, a world where drones will live -
[00:14:53] this is what we are heading for,
[00:15:26] therefore... aviation, you understand that not
[00:15:29] all decisions on board are made physically by a person, many
[00:15:33] decisions are already made by instruments, algorithms, in this
[00:15:36] sense, this is
[00:16:07] such a balance between. creating a real map, but purely
[00:16:11] an applied story, absolutely true, at what height can they
[00:16:15] work? usually it's somewhere around 500 - 100 meters, it depends
[00:16:18] on cloudiness, depending on whether these are so-called visual flight
[00:16:22] rules, of course, so that the camera can actually capture
[00:16:25] what the drone needs to see, well, here specifically
[00:16:29] is the work of one of the drones,
[00:16:32] ah-ha, so it is currently performing flights and
[00:16:35] according to the video sounding of the earth, well, or...
[00:16:39] photo and video shooting. Brothers, tell me, is this
[00:16:42] a controlled model, that is, is there an operator here?
[00:16:44] Semi-automatic, here you can set a route, along which it will
[00:16:48] fly itself, move cameras, shoot, you can
[00:16:52] control it manually, there is always a variation. And I ask
[00:16:55] because, of course, for many people the question immediately
[00:16:58] arises, if it can be programmed to
[00:17:01] follow a certain route, then no one is needed. Well, a pilot
[00:17:05] is always needed, a person who controls the situation, because he always
[00:17:09] can encounter some abnormal situation, because
[00:17:12] for automatic flights a navigation system is always
[00:17:15] required. What is an FPV drone?
[00:17:18] An FPV drone is, well, FPV generally stands for First Person View, so
[00:17:22] it's practically any drone that has a camera, from which we can
[00:17:25] watch - so, we receive a video image from its
[00:17:29] board. But in common parlance now, these are
[00:17:32] fast drones that are used for - such active
[00:17:35] flights in goggles, that is, there are drones that have, well, almost all
[00:17:39] drones have cameras, and we control some drones
[00:17:43] by wearing goggles, taking remote controls, and flying manually,
[00:17:46] these drones are usually called FPV. Is there any error algorithm,
[00:17:50] if what do you mean, piloting
[00:17:53] errors? We get used to it, there is
[00:17:57] a special initial
[00:18:00] training course, which includes errors, of course, that is, in
[00:18:03] difficult conditions, is there such an algorithm for
[00:18:07] drones, for those who are learning?
[00:18:11] Well, at least in our courses, which were done, conducted, and completed, there
[00:18:14] is always a course on emergency situations, repairs,
[00:18:18] troubleshooting, and so on, so in some form, of course, it is present, can
[00:18:22] we demonstrate some drone in the studio
[00:18:25] now, at least show the viewers how this
[00:18:27] story flies, yes, of course.
[00:18:31] Drone basketball, here
[00:18:32] are
[00:18:47] microchips, they are not yet made
[00:18:49] by hand, but someday this will go into mass
[00:18:53] production, which means it will be conveyor work, well, microchips themselves are
[00:18:57] not made by hand, they are naturally produced on special
[00:19:00] machines, so we get a board, this is the usual drone device.
[00:19:03] in the following way: there is a frame on which all electronics are located,
[00:19:07] motors are installed on the frame, in order for
[00:19:11] the motors to rotate, we need a motor
[00:19:14] speed controller, which will set the number
[00:19:17] of revolutions and which motor should rotate at this second,
[00:19:20] are the engines autonomous, no, all this is connected to
[00:19:24] the flight controller, which is the brain of the drone, which
[00:19:27] controls it, I meant, do all four work at once
[00:19:31] or do they work simultaneously.
[00:19:34] in their own way, because when we turn in one direction,
[00:19:37] the engines on one axis work more, on the other less, and so
[00:19:40] on, so in order to control
[00:19:44] it, we need a radio receiver,
[00:19:47] which is paired with the
[00:19:50] equipment, and in order to receive a video image, we need
[00:19:54] a camera and a video transmitter, which transmits the image to video goggles,
[00:19:57] this is standard - the standard model of any
[00:20:01] UAV, hmm, well, multirotor type, I look at this
[00:20:04] technology. science is moving forward so quickly, how
[00:20:08] to adapt those who are learning to a rapidly
[00:20:11] changing system? I would
[00:20:13] say that with drones, as with
[00:20:16] computers and mobile phones, the same trend is gradually
[00:20:20] happening, they are gradually becoming simpler in terms of
[00:20:23] application, they are becoming smarter and more
[00:20:27] convenient to use, in this sense, the design itself
[00:20:30] becomes more complex, the tasks of engineers and developers,
[00:20:33] of course, become more and more complex for... for the user, well, if
[00:20:37] we say that a five-to-seven-year-old child can learn to control a drone, everything
[00:20:41] is becoming simpler and simpler for us. In fact, in
[00:20:43] our programs,
[00:20:45] we see that about 50% of students are not schoolchildren and students,
[00:20:50] they are adults, 30+,
[00:20:54] who are taking a drone in their hands for the first time in their lives and starting
[00:20:58] to learn, getting this profession in order
[00:21:00] to change their career, find
[00:21:03] themselves in this very rapidly developing labor
[00:21:06] market, and this career is promising,
[00:21:10] apparently, so,
[00:21:13] the task, the state task is to get as many
[00:21:16] specialists as possible in this area. In today's times, absolutely
[00:21:21] true, and when we talk about the scope of application of unmanned
[00:21:25] systems, it's not just traditionally
[00:21:28] aircraft designers, people who develop radio electronics, not just
[00:21:32] the operators themselves, but also those people who further
[00:21:35] make decisions and use drones in agriculture, in forestry,
[00:21:39] in cadastral work, which we already
[00:21:42] mentioned today, in education,
[00:21:45] in theater and art, it is also starting to work. In this
[00:21:49] sense, we are talking about such a dronification of different spheres and
[00:21:53] industries, and specialists, professionals, as I said, in forestry
[00:21:57] and agriculture also need to understand what this product is for, what
[00:22:01] they will do with the data, with the information
[00:22:04] that the drone will bring them, having monitored, for example, a pipeline
[00:22:08] for damage or a power line, or
[00:22:11] monitoring construction and controlling the construction process of buildings
[00:22:15] and structures, there is a huge
[00:22:18] demand and deficit now in the labor market for specialists in those
[00:22:22] industries where drones are beginning to be used, over 40
[00:22:25] thousand job vacancies currently exist, over
[00:22:29] 40 thousand we already see a need now
[00:22:32] in areas related to the use of unmanned aerial
[00:22:36] vehicles. Well, competitions
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[00:29:59] well, we are now talking about civilian
[00:30:02] use,
[00:30:07] in today's
[00:30:09] times, the use of a different nature
[00:30:12] even prevails over civilian use,
[00:30:15] already, the very concept of combat operations is moving into some
[00:30:20] other dimension, just as it used to be
[00:30:23] an infantry-cavalry story, then
[00:30:26] artillery, then tank, aviation
[00:30:30] and so on. Now drones fill the space
[00:30:34] psychologically just incredibly.
[00:30:38] Well, tell me, do you train such people?
[00:30:41] Yes, of course, there is also demand from such
[00:30:45] employers and customers, but
[00:30:48] in general, talking about the evolution of drones, it should
[00:30:51] be noted that the most widespread
[00:30:55] drones currently used in combat operations are
[00:30:59] absolutely civilian commercial drones, created for
[00:31:02] wedding photographers, videographers, and for monitoring and
[00:31:05] reconnaissance, drones are also used that were originally created
[00:31:09] for purely civilian purposes. in recent years. different
[00:31:12] directions, from so-called manual control
[00:31:22] of FPV pilots to
[00:31:26] the gradual introduction of, among other things, artificial intelligence technologies,
[00:31:28] flight along the underlying surface in conditions of electronic warfare,
[00:31:32] electronic reconnaissance, you do not have the ability to use
[00:31:36] radio signal navigation,
[00:31:39] respectively, flying on pre-loaded
[00:31:43] maps, and this is exactly... the decisions that the drone automatically
[00:31:47] makes, satellite navigation, and so on, all of this, let's say,
[00:31:50] seriously reshapes the industry of creating
[00:31:53] unmanned aerial vehicles. This is a very interesting
[00:31:56] point, because in
[00:31:59] society's general perception, naturally
[00:32:03] the question arises: everything that is controlled can be nullified,
[00:32:07] meaning no signal, and that's it, and this piece of
[00:32:10] metal will simply fall. How to deal with
[00:32:14] this? Well, there are different ways to solve
[00:32:17] problems. This is either satellites through which
[00:32:21] radio control and video transmission are distributed, these are autonomous
[00:32:25] various systems. Well, plus it's not always
[00:32:28] possible to suppress that or another
[00:32:31] frequency. That is, the jammer doesn't always work directly in that range. So,
[00:32:35] a frequency range is selected where accordingly it doesn't
[00:32:38] jam, but all this is moving forward by leaps and bounds.
[00:32:41] So, systems will surely appear.
[00:32:46] Anti-combat, that is, fighting this thing,
[00:32:49] uh, and even satellite signals can be blocked.
[00:32:53] Perhaps this implies, in all likelihood, that someday this
[00:32:57] artificial intelligence, built into it, will allow it to
[00:33:00] work autonomously with
[00:33:03] a given task. Yes, yes, that's how it is now, because
[00:33:07] my colleague said that now there are systems
[00:33:10] for flights over the underlying surface, meaning a map of the terrain is pre-loaded,
[00:33:14] a route is built. And it flies with the help of its
[00:33:17] internal systems, without radio transmissions, satellite communication,
[00:33:21] GPS, and so on, only based on its sensors
[00:33:25] inside. I'll draw an analogy with drone
[00:33:28] racing, which we just talked about, and recently at
[00:33:32] international competitions - artificial intelligence
[00:33:35] overtook a physical pilot. So already,
[00:33:39] on our level, on the track, predefined, both the best
[00:33:42] pilots in the world and artificial intelligence compete at the same level.
[00:34:15] is limited in certain parameters, including
[00:34:18] physiological ones, and this thing will probably be able to
[00:34:22] do a little more than a person can do
[00:34:25] at - at the helm or with the stick, plus
[00:34:28] speeds are increasing. If in drone racing, I understand, there's
[00:34:32] probably up to 200 maximum, right? Probably a little more,
[00:34:36] but now there are drones on small
[00:34:39] jet engines, which or on electricity, an electric
[00:34:42] drone, just recently set a record.
[00:35:45] to provide first aid to those who need it, but
[00:35:49] who can, then the question is, how do
[00:35:52] you think, how much time should pass for this drone, say,
[00:35:56] to be able to deliver a doctor there too? Speaking of delivering
[00:35:59] goods, especially small ones, when we're talking about 2, 3, 5 kg,
[00:36:03] a first aid kit is unlikely to weigh 100 kg. Such solutions already
[00:36:07] exist. For example, we actively cooperate with and train
[00:36:10] the Ministry of Emergency Situations, which is precisely in fires, in
[00:36:13] floods, in such difficult situations, they deliver medicines,
[00:36:17] water, food, basic sets to people who find themselves
[00:36:20] in such situations. If we are talking about transporting
[00:36:24] a person, then from the point of view of size, from the point of view
[00:36:28] of drone power, there is no problem at all. I would say that here the question
[00:36:31] is about safety and the trust
[00:36:35] of our society, your and my
[00:36:38] somewhat unknown soulless machine that will
[00:36:42] pick us up. As for air taxis, they are in Dubai, at
[00:36:45] the Chinese, we have the first solutions there.
[00:36:49] And there was already an attempt
[00:36:52] to deliver a living creature
[00:36:54] somewhere in... the idea by
[00:36:58] task, as far as I know, well, in such a
[00:37:01] massive way, of course not, these are the first test flights and individual
[00:37:04] enthusiasts, that is, in industrial, in commercial such a
[00:37:07] scale, these solutions are not yet applied, well, the forecast
[00:37:11] is probably that this is still a perspective for 5-7
[00:37:14] years, this is clear, no, I am now recalling, and you can
[00:37:18] also recall, the exploration of space, so, first dogs,
[00:37:22] mice and so on, only after many, many
[00:37:26] various checks.
[00:37:30] a flight with a cosmonaut was allowed. Here,
[00:37:33] probably, it will be the same, approximately the same logic, probably, approximately the same number
[00:37:37] of years from the first flights,
[00:37:40] therefore we say, probably, that 5-7 years is the perspective when
[00:37:43] understandable commercial application scenarios will
[00:37:47] appear, and that means it will already enter our lives.
[00:37:51] Well, tell me, if it's not difficult, the difference, well,
[00:37:54] stress resistance of the pilot.
[00:38:04] There is a difference, after all, in psychology surely, especially during
[00:38:08] combat operations.
[00:38:12] We had an institute that conducted
[00:38:15] research on this topic. They looked at
[00:38:18] how, well, at the effect of stress during
[00:38:21] piloting, specifically in races. But I think that in
[00:38:25] the conditions of a special military operation, there's a bit
[00:38:28] more adrenaline, after all, than in simple civilian
[00:38:31] use. Well, and this
[00:38:34] somehow, it's medicine in its purest form,
[00:38:38] it's either psychology, well, here it's probably more psychology, understandable, but
[00:38:42] psychology also belongs to medicine, in principle.
[00:38:45] So, this is also trained, just as pilots
[00:38:48] are trained for flights in special conditions and so
[00:38:52] on. It's the same thing. There are
[00:38:55] indeed, well, already proven methods,
[00:38:58] confirmed by research, of psychological testing, which
[00:39:02] show a predisposition, an initial, natural one, of a person from the point of view
[00:39:06] of their psychology, probably neurophysiology.
[00:39:08] The accuracy of such studies is around 95%.
[00:39:12] By asking a few questions, conducting a small
[00:39:15] test, we can tell how predisposed you will
[00:39:19] be to performing work specifically with
[00:39:23] the use of a FPV drone. Here we are talking more about controlling with
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[00:39:40] are taught how to repair these things, yes, of course,
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[00:44:43] your own.
[00:44:48] not just pilots can be trained, but an agronomist,
[00:44:52] for example, or a fisherman,
[00:44:54] anyone. Then there will be a related
[00:44:56] specialty, this is fish protection,
[00:45:00] forest protection, well, general nature protection - these
[00:45:02] are, say, fire fighting
[00:45:06] specialists, this also... You can take any specialist and give him
[00:45:10] the
[00:45:13] opportunity to control this story, as
[00:45:17] an aid in his profession. Do you have this?
[00:45:20] That's right, we call this phenomenon a hybrid profession,
[00:45:23] when a person is simultaneously a specialist in forestry or agriculture,
[00:45:27] and he gets the profession
[00:45:31] of a drone operator, and often he needs another
[00:45:34] profession, a specialist in processing the data and
[00:45:37] information that the drone brings, because
[00:45:40] the drone is primarily, well, the data it brings,
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[00:45:47] points, there
[00:45:50] is an infection, it is necessary to apply certain substances there, or it brings you...