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[00:01:14] this is the program "Time Will Tell" in the studio Anatoly
[00:01:17] Kuzichev,
[00:01:20] in Kiev there is hysteria, in Europe there is
[00:01:22] panic, but what about in the States and what about
[00:01:26] in Russia, let's talk about that today, just on Friday evening.
[00:02:01] Vladimir Putin's statement on the results of negotiations with Trump
[00:02:04] was published on the Kremlin website. Here
[00:02:06] it is. During the telephone conversation
[00:02:09] with US President Donald Trump on October 9,
[00:02:13] considerable attention was paid to the prospects for resolving
[00:02:16] the Ukrainian crisis, the situation around Iran and
[00:02:20] various aspects of bilateral relations were also touched upon. When discussing the state
[00:02:23] of affairs in the global energy sector, the Russian side reaffirmed its readiness
[00:02:27] to supply oil and oil products to the American
[00:02:31] the agreement on continuing personal contacts between the presidents
[00:02:34] of the two countries, as well as cooperation along the lines of presidential administrations,
[00:02:38] special services and other departments was confirmed. Assistant
[00:02:41] to the President of Russia Yuri Ushakov described the conversation as
[00:02:45] friendly, and moreover, so to speak, hinted that
[00:02:48] the presidents would very much like to continue, it's just that everyone has their own business, but apparently they will continue in
[00:02:52] the near future, here again, I understand, they flinched in Kiev and
[00:02:56] in Europe, it's important, I think, it's
[00:02:59] important, it's not a simple, so to speak, figure
[00:03:03] of politeness, but the fact that the US President
[00:03:06] publicly thanked Vladimir Putin, thanked him sincerely,
[00:03:09] I repeat once again, publicly, in the media, and this
[00:03:12] caused separate, so to speak, paroxysms in
[00:03:16] Europe and Ukraine, listen,
[00:03:20] I think you heard about the oil deal with Russia, this is a very big deal,
[00:03:23] huge volumes of oil will come to our country, and honestly, I want
[00:03:27] to thank President Putin in our country. huge volumes of
[00:03:31] oil will come, and this is diesel fuel, exactly what we need, so thank
[00:03:35] you,
[00:03:38] thank you, you are welcome, I want to answer Trump, but this is not within my
[00:03:41] competence, and before thanking Putin, Trump
[00:03:45] revealed, in fact, the details of this fuel deal, which we are discussing now, listen
[00:03:48] to this. Russia will immediately supply to the American
[00:03:52] world market more than 300 tons of diesel fuel, another
[00:03:56] 5,000 tons during November and 1 million tons...
[00:04:00] after that. In addition, depending on the state of its
[00:04:03] oil refineries, Russia will supply 3 million
[00:04:07] tons of diesel fuel in a short time. Thanks to our full control over the Strait of Hormuz
[00:04:10] and this important statement on Russian energy, diesel
[00:04:14] fuel prices for Americans and, of course, for the whole world will
[00:04:18] quickly and record-breakingly decrease. Well,
[00:04:20] actually, I want to ask our esteemed experts what this
[00:04:24] was all about, because there are exactly two interpretations
[00:04:28] of this deal, this conversation.
[00:05:00] characterize her and her president and so on, here's such a thing.
[00:05:03] Interpretation two: Americans are people, so to speak, purely practical
[00:05:07] and in this sense cynical, they just got what they wanted
[00:05:10] and that's it, said a big thank you. dollars,
[00:05:25] which we will receive, as they say, on this deal, so I have no questions
[00:05:28] for our side at all, I have questions for the American
[00:05:32] side, yes, President Trump received from Congress in due time along
[00:05:35] with the introduction of this very hellish package of sanctions, he received the right
[00:05:39] to attention remove, appoint these sanctions.
[00:06:12] wait, and I think that this spirit
[00:06:15] of anchorage, the spirit of this lifting of sanctions from the diesel deal and so on,
[00:06:19] will eventually turn into something else,
[00:06:23] I await this something else with some concern, because
[00:06:27] what will Trump ultimately get his way, but he is working in
[00:06:30] the short term, he is working until November
[00:06:33] 4th, then what, then what, and
[00:06:36] this question, unfortunately, hangs in the air, why, because the congressmen,
[00:06:40] including the Republicans, immediately got excited,
[00:06:42] how could we, we ourselves gave, oh, what to do?
[00:06:46] here, they immediately moved to a completely
[00:06:49] destructive position, the Europeans, you probably
[00:06:52] noticed how many sanctions we were hit with in response, in order
[00:06:55] to compensate for this failure and so on, the Ukrainians
[00:06:59] immediately became negatively agitated
[00:07:02] - well, with the ensuing consequences, how
[00:07:05] will Trump cope with this stage of the crisis, I honestly don't
[00:07:09] know if he will cope, that's good,
[00:07:42] he imposes secondary sanctions against those countries that will buy
[00:07:46] Russian oil and gas, well not that he gives
[00:07:49] the opportunity, I beg your pardon, I beg your pardon,
[00:07:53] I beg your pardon, I beg your pardon, but Trump must make
[00:07:56] a decision regarding the imposition of sanctions under this law by
[00:07:59] October 18, and the decision that Trump made now,
[00:08:03] precisely, it doesn't just go against it, it goes in parallel with this law,
[00:08:07] that is, conditionally speaking, by October 18, Trump must finally make a decision, sanctions or
[00:08:11] not, he can make a decision. not to impose sanctions under the Linse
[00:08:14] Graham law, then he will have to explain to Congress why he is not imposing
[00:08:18] sanctions, he should give an explanation, it's elementary to give him an explanation, he will take
[00:08:22] statistics on diesel prices in his country and show,
[00:08:25] please, so, in fact, in fact, we are witnessing,
[00:08:28] we are witnessing a historical, in fact, a turning point, I
[00:08:32] believe, this is, of course, the tip of the iceberg, which you
[00:08:35] have just outlined, but there is also an underwater part,
[00:08:39] the underwater part is as follows, the fact is that...
[00:08:42] the presidents of the USA and the presidents of Russia found common
[00:08:46] ground, that is, in other words, national
[00:08:49] interests intersected at focal points, they agreed, this
[00:08:52] is now a very important signal to the whole world,
[00:08:55] in fact, one should not try, so to speak, to engage in some kind of behind-the-scenes games,
[00:08:59] one should look for common ground in national interests,
[00:09:02] absolutely and clearly, the national interest of the USA was that
[00:09:06] 3,000 tons of Russian diesel should enter the American and indeed
[00:09:10] the world market, why, because well...
[00:09:42] prices, but he also used to name prices and will say, well, what then, our Russophobia overrides your card,
[00:09:46] our Russophobia can override, but until November 4, as you rightly
[00:09:49] noted, why, because the voter needs to come to the polls and
[00:09:53] Trump will say, guys, I did everything to lower the price of diesel, and
[00:09:56] the Democrats want to raise it, who are you for? Yes, the Democrats
[00:10:00] will declare that Trump is buying voters and nothing will change
[00:10:03] later, they will declare, but the fact is that it works, that's the point, well, yes,
[00:10:07] also look, it seems interesting
[00:10:10] to me. why is the symbolism of this act so important,
[00:10:13] the symbolism is also that look,
[00:10:17] so,
[00:10:18] idiotic,
[00:10:24] which kill the German economy and so
[00:10:32] on, other economies, yes,
[00:10:35] here, you see, the practical interest
[00:10:38] outweighed from its country
[00:10:41] America, remember, right, suddenly they outweighed all these propagandistic
[00:10:44] clichés, that's cool, well, I don't know, is this the first
[00:10:47] step, has the ice broken, but it seems obvious to everyone that America can't do
[00:10:51] without Russian diesel, well yes, without Russian diesel.
[00:12:25] we need this Russian diesel, he is lying, because the
[00:12:29] USA is not an exporter
[00:12:32] of diesel, and the USA exports
[00:12:35] one and a half million barrels every day,
[00:12:38] if the USA, if the USA wanted to
[00:12:42] increase, to increase this diesel
[00:12:46] stock, they would do what Russia did, that is,
[00:12:49] suspend diesel exports, lose
[00:12:52] money, what dexterity. to say that
[00:12:55] the American market is so separate, neat, with a strategy
[00:12:59] of energy dominance, that's what this is done for,
[00:13:02] to consider world markets as a whole as its territory, the US does not
[00:13:06] need, does not need Russian diesel, it is only needed
[00:13:09] in the sense that this diesel
[00:13:11] - this
[00:13:14] lifting of sanctions can affect world prices,
[00:13:18] world prices, if a new stream of Russian
[00:13:21] diesel enters the world market, but the US
[00:13:28] itself does not need this diesel at all, well, good, but the only thing
[00:13:31] is that the supply of this diesel to the US will affect world
[00:13:35] markets, am I quoting your logic correctly, if Russia
[00:13:39] can sell huge quantities of diesel
[00:13:42] to other countries and the US will not interfere now
[00:13:46] that sanctions have been lifted, it will affect world prices,
[00:13:49] why is this important for the US, the US does not depend, why is it
[00:13:53] important for the US that world prices.
[00:15:25] barrels of diesel are consumed each,
[00:15:27] so this is the volume, this is the monthly volume, about
[00:15:31] which in Russia, that is, this will not affect, it is clear
[00:15:34] why something started its speech, brilliant, I must say. with the
[00:15:38] words: yes, yes, I believe that the ice has broken, but in the
[00:15:41] sense that Russia really needs this,
[00:15:44] Russia, lift sanctions, I think that this
[00:15:47] is not about the diesel itself, it is about the fact that there are other deals,
[00:15:51] which are an advance, it is Trump's advance to conclude
[00:15:54] completely different deals, that is, it is a prologue
[00:15:58] to some other deal, for example, you think,
[00:16:01] the US wants Russia to
[00:16:04] approve this deal, this foreign purchase.
[00:17:07] fantasy, some kind of mystery, please, well, look, here
[00:17:10] you need to distinguish symbolism,
[00:17:13] numbers, trends and intentions,
[00:17:17] so, the symbolism is undoubtedly in the fact that this is the first
[00:17:21] precedent for easing sanctions pressure on our
[00:17:24] country, this is a plus for us, the second
[00:17:27] symbolism, even smoothly transitioning into numbers,
[00:17:30] the United States, like the entire Anglo-Saxon world, lives by
[00:17:33] common law, a precedent for lifting anti-Russian sanctions.
[00:17:37] may be extended to other areas, to other industries, to other volumes,
[00:17:41] respectively, or not, yes, everything will depend on
[00:17:44] how the ice goes, where it goes, actually, which has broken, that the ice has broken,
[00:17:48] I absolutely agree, further, who, who benefits more and
[00:17:52] where this ice will stop, will it sink the European Titanic, conditionally speaking,
[00:17:56] I think that Russia and the United States have now launched the very iceberg that is moving rapidly towards
[00:18:00] Europe, who benefits from this, we certainly
[00:18:03] benefit from this, the opportunity to enter the American market, the opportunity to yes...
[00:18:47] it is diesel that increases many times over, they even
[00:18:50] discussed that agricultural diesel would be sold to ordinary
[00:18:54] consumers at the same price, and there it differs by two or three times,
[00:18:57] accordingly, this is important, accordingly, Trump, he
[00:19:01] I would not agree that he acts situationally, no, he is a very
[00:19:05] smart person, sometimes it even happens that...
[00:19:43] everyone without exception, and what happened,
[00:19:46] everyone remembers, that is, Russia actually threw a diesel lifebuoy to Trump and
[00:19:49] the republic, a diesel lifebuoy, another
[00:19:53] question is where Russia will find this diesel, there is a reason why
[00:19:56] Russia, you know what diesel deposits we have, Michael, there is a
[00:20:00] reason why Russia imposed, suspended
[00:20:04] diesel exports, because there was not enough diesel in Russia
[00:20:08] itself,
[00:20:12] I'll tell you this, no, listen, these are good questions for such a serious,
[00:20:15] deep, professional conversation, but I'll say this, if in one word
[00:20:19] you are not worried about us, we will find
[00:20:22] his speech began with the words peace,
[00:20:25] friendship diesel diesel, yes Michael, I
[00:20:29] why am I arguing with you, firstly, there is no peace, and it is still
[00:20:32] far from peace, the conversation about peace has not even started,
[00:20:36] secondly, friendship. there is no friendship either, even between Russia and
[00:20:40] the USA there is no friendship, because, well, because for now, but there is
[00:20:44] the beginning of trust, this is the most important thing, as you said, there is a precedent for trust,
[00:20:47] the parties have converged in interests. they agreed, this is the most
[00:20:51] important thing, diesel, diesel is available, here you
[00:20:55] have a host, such an interesting map, but there are no two
[00:20:58] actors here, here are all, you see the name, but there are no those who
[00:21:02] are hysterical, who is now just
[00:21:05] very worried about all this, you see, there are no inscriptions there, no Ukraine, no
[00:21:09] Europe, no inscriptions
[00:21:11] there,
[00:21:14] look, this is Europe, yes, this is Europe, imagine that in this whole situation, in this diesel deal.
[00:21:18] Well, what about the date, is she
[00:27:26] what we finished the previous part with, so,
[00:27:29] panic, hysteria, rage,
[00:27:33] here are characteristic quotes from Zelensky, who
[00:27:36] reacted this way to the agreements between Trump and Putin.
[00:27:40] Listen.
[00:27:42] Any weakening of sanctions against Russia without a clear and
[00:27:46] lasting de-escalation agreement with Russia is
[00:27:49] an obvious weakness. This plays into Russia's hands, so that it will fight
[00:27:53] longer, will respect America even less, will inflict even more
[00:27:56] losses and damage on the world. Gifts to Putin will not work for peace and
[00:28:00] any benefit for the civilized world. Russia will thank for
[00:28:04] the diesel with further terror and villainy. Allowing Russia
[00:28:07] to sell oil products is an investment in a war that needs
[00:28:11] to be ended, not continued. We need real de-escalation with Russia
[00:28:15] in a mirror format. We count on fair support
[00:28:18] from America for our defense of life in a corresponding strong conversation
[00:28:22] between the US and Russia, strong, not weak. Well, this
[00:28:26] is still the most, it seems to me, delicate, so
[00:28:29] to speak, interpretation, he said, he generally said a lot. frankly
[00:28:33] rude things were also said to America, well, the
[00:28:36] journalists, of course, kind and honest people,
[00:28:40] informed Trump about Zelensky's reaction to his deal with Vladimir
[00:28:43] Putin, look, a good dialogue, how Trump
[00:28:47] reacted to this message, listen,
[00:28:51] Zelensky said that you are weak once you made a deal with Putin, who said
[00:28:54] that, Zelensky,
[00:28:56] okay,
[00:29:00] enough, enough.
[00:29:32] and clearly not by chance, precisely at the moment when in Miami the Ukrainian delegation was negotiating
[00:29:36] with the American side on
[00:29:39] resolving the conflict in Ukraine, the communication was planned
[00:29:42] initially, these are four horsemen, we called them four horsemen
[00:29:45] of the apocalypse, and that week we, so to speak,
[00:29:48] defined, understood that there is no need to be afraid of such an apocalypse, what horsemen,
[00:29:52] such an apocalypse will be, in general, this communication,
[00:29:56] I repeat, was planned for 2 days, the second day of negotiations, accordingly, broke down, they
[00:29:59] packed up and left, by the way,
[00:30:20] in Kiev, they tried, of course, to smooth over the situation with these failed
[00:30:24] or ruined negotiations in Miami, but
[00:30:27] it turned out, not only unconvincing, it turned out, I tell
[00:30:30] you, maximally ambiguous, bad PR,
[00:30:32] listen,
[00:30:35] the negotiations were not canceled, it's just that the first day turned out to be longer
[00:30:38] and a little different
[00:30:40] taste, well, they know better, of course,
[00:30:44] hussars, keep quiet, please, I ask you,
[00:30:47] let's - well, let's then continue, here, still,
[00:30:50] look, the Ukrainian delegation was conducting negotiations in Miami, and at that time
[00:30:54] Trump just calls Putin, is this a coincidence, or do you think,
[00:30:57] so to speak, a deliberately planned
[00:31:01] story, for what purpose?
[00:31:03] I think that in reality Trump has accumulated a lot of negative
[00:31:07] energy towards Zelensky, and he is expressing it
[00:31:11] this way, he is expressing it, he clearly emphasizes this to make it clear that he is Zelensky.
[00:31:15] is very dissatisfied, moreover, he emphatically, makes it clear that he is dissatisfied
[00:31:18] with the behavior of European,
[00:31:20] European partners, for now still partners, or rather buyers
[00:31:24] of American weapons. Pay attention to what is happening now, the United
[00:31:27] States is selling used American weapons at the price
[00:31:31] of new, and European money, which they pay for weapons, goes
[00:31:34] to the American industry, but the problem is that
[00:31:37] the American military industry is currently unable to cope with the volumes needed after
[00:31:41] Iran and Ukraine, precisely for this reason.
[00:31:45] there are, in principle, grounds for Trump to be irritated
[00:31:48] with those who prevent him from concluding deals, peace
[00:31:52] agreements, consistent with the spirit of Anchorage, and so on,
[00:31:55] so Trump's behavior yes, will become increasingly harsh towards
[00:31:59] Ukrainians, towards Zelensky,
[00:32:02] towards so-called European partners, he will humiliate them,
[00:32:06] by the way, you know, what now, Michael, well, Michael always says
[00:32:09] about Trump that he, so to speak, is difficult to trust, that he is very
[00:32:13] inconsistent, changes.
[00:32:40] on someone else, suddenly imagine, a person's psyche, I don't know, his mind is so arranged, that whoever offers more,
[00:32:42] there and... that's how
[00:32:45] it is,
[00:32:49] well, excuse me please, here they offered seven, here only four, whatever
[00:32:53] it may be, that's all, maybe it's just about
[00:32:56] that, that's why Europeans criticize Trump, because he
[00:32:59] no longer obeys Euro-Atlantic solidarity, he
[00:33:03] rudely changes his shoes, he is always wearing the same
[00:33:07] shoes, a businessman's boots,
[00:33:09] and we constantly sew him a suit about him being a politician, he is not a politician, he is
[00:33:12] a businessman, he makes deals.
[00:33:45] so to speak, the testimony of Mendel, Yulia Mendel, his
[00:33:48] former press secretary, he just behaves hysterically,
[00:33:51] he is, in principle, a hysterical personality, accordingly, he quickly folds up, they
[00:33:55] folded up and left, that's it, the deal is multi-component, so
[00:33:58] of course he took everything into account, of course he is reported, because now
[00:34:02] the price level, positions in the upcoming elections, and so
[00:34:06] on, depend on this, he takes all this into account, the deal is a business deal,
[00:34:09] it takes into account a huge number, well, whom am I teaching, yes, I won't teach you, it takes into account
[00:34:13] a huge number of factors,
[00:36:15] I saw, I fell, naturally, the next time I climb
[00:36:18] a branch, I still have a lot to saw, I remember your warning and act
[00:36:22] differently, not because I am not consistent, but because I suddenly realized
[00:36:25] what this leads to, all external parameters.
[00:36:58] weapons normally, it seems to me, this is quite a weighty argument,
[00:37:01] please Alexander, to Michael's
[00:37:04] words, what Trump said six months
[00:37:07] ago, needs to be linked to the context of the Middle
[00:37:11] East, at that moment it was expected that everything would end
[00:37:14] then, accordingly, now Trump has
[00:37:18] a clear understanding that, firstly, after the elections he will again have to meddle
[00:37:22] in Iran in the Middle East, accordingly, this will close
[00:37:25] the Strait of Hormuz for at least another six months to a year. and accordingly, oil
[00:37:29] from there will not go to the United States to the world market, just as fertilizers
[00:37:33] will not go, another spring with a very bad
[00:37:36] fertilization season, accordingly, a very bad situation for food
[00:37:39] security in many countries of the world, accordingly, what needs to be done, look for
[00:37:43] an alternative, and here Russia already becomes
[00:37:46] without alternative, accordingly, yes, Trump is possibly
[00:37:49] not such, let's say, a genius of strategy and
[00:37:52] multi-move combinations, like for example our president or Xi
[00:37:56] Jinping, but he... is very good at tactics,
[00:37:59] in business, including in politics, and he perfectly
[00:38:03] understood the necessity, therefore he trolled Zelensky so harshly,
[00:38:07] causing him an attack of insane rage and once again
[00:38:10] showing who is the main one, relatively speaking, in
[00:38:14] particular, in supporting Ukraine, militarily
[00:38:18] and financially, now indeed, this whole system,
[00:38:21] which represents the purchase of American weapons by Europeans, can
[00:38:25] be put on hold, and this means:
[00:39:28] that many US officials called Europeans
[00:39:31] over these past weekends and called policy
[00:39:35] deputy head of Zelensky's office, who is responsible for defense, and said:
[00:39:38] if you don't obey, then first, we can
[00:39:42] stop all weapons supplies now through the Par program, we will
[00:39:46] stop. we may not provide intelligence
[00:39:49] information, I am not even talking about the fact that I am not even talking about the fact that
[00:39:53] even Musk said that Zelensky, you, now now
[00:39:56] Vasilievich. now yes, let's not turn off Starlink yet, but that was probably meant.
[00:40:00] In general, of course, from what you are saying,
[00:40:03] Vasily Devich, it would be cool, of course, if the states, as in forty-four, opened a second
[00:40:07] front,
[00:40:09] well, the time has come against Europe, of course, yes, together, I think we would have settled
[00:40:13] all this quite quickly, well, okay, this is fantasy, now regarding what you said,
[00:40:16] now we will continue, just - so,
[00:40:19] not only Americans called Europe, Zelensky naturally started calling
[00:40:23] everyone in a hysterical mode, on the very first day, immediately after, there is one mysterious name here,
[00:40:27] but only one. he called the Prime Minister of Britain, well,
[00:40:30] of course, the President of France obviously,
[00:40:34] the Prime Minister of Norway, a lot
[00:40:36] of money, and the President of Finland for some reason, Stubb, well,
[00:40:40] probably because Stubb is considered to have the best relations with
[00:40:44] Trump, personal so to speak, maybe that is what is meant, so, it's clear,
[00:40:48] now Trump,
[00:40:50] so, everyone is writing about this and it has been repeatedly emphasized
[00:40:54] that Trump went for this deal, you are right, Dmitrievich, because.
[00:40:57] about six requests,
[00:41:00] demands, calls to stop, so, strikes on Russian oil refineries,
[00:41:04] Zelensky ignored, and here, so, this
[00:41:07] repeated ignorance, this is like rudeness so upset Trump that
[00:41:11] he called on Ukraine, attention, to choose a new
[00:41:14] leader, since Zelensky does not know
[00:41:17] how to conclude deals, to this demand joined
[00:41:21] correctly Elon Musk, listen
[00:41:23] to Trump,
[00:41:26] could have settled this war. several times, but he decided not to do it, this is a war that
[00:41:30] should not have been started at all, we said, you can do whatever you want with Russia,
[00:41:34] just don't hit oil refineries,
[00:41:37] because this is a global problem that... you didn't create, and he wants
[00:41:41] to create problems for the whole world, and you know what I propose, I propose
[00:41:45] to appoint them a new leader who knows how to conclude deals, because he
[00:41:48] could have concluded many deals that for some reason he never
[00:41:52] concluded. I don't think that this is such a charming
[00:41:55] simplicity, to appoint them a new
[00:41:58] leader,
[00:42:03] well, really, but obviously it's not accidental, well listen, well he is a smart person, experienced, adult and so
[00:42:07] on, to appoint them a new leader.
[00:42:10] well, this is actually quite a dangerous statement, why do I think for for Trump
[00:42:14] himself, well imagine, he says it, so everyone, in theory,
[00:42:18] so to speak, froze in anticipation and horror, what will happen, but suppose if nothing
[00:42:21] happens, but suppose if Zelensky, so to speak,
[00:42:24] armed himself with the support of these Europeans, whom he called, and he didn't only call
[00:42:28] these four, so, he will say, well,
[00:42:32] never mind, we'll manage without the states somehow, and
[00:42:35] he will again ignore Trump's seventh request not to hit Russian oil refineries, no, no, no,
[00:42:39] no,
[00:43:07] he has now strengthened the demands for a so-called truce and an energy truce deal.
[00:43:10] There's a new one and so on, he reinforced it, "Let's say you don't do anything for 60 days,
[00:43:14] and we'll prepare for the elections." Yes, he said, "If I'm ready
[00:43:18] to hold elections, if Putin doesn't hit Ukraine for 60 days." The same money, just
[00:43:21] from the side, that's it. No, a brilliant
[00:43:25] person, but, but it's impossible, it's simply impossible.
[00:43:28] That's why, unfortunately, Zelensky and the guys from Europe
[00:43:32] will definitely use everything Trump says against him at this
[00:43:36] stage, why? Because they need to bring down Trump.
[00:44:40] Here too, everyone is their own separator. And finally,
[00:44:43] Trump. Yes, Trump is a handsome man, in my opinion, he killed two
[00:44:46] birds with one stone, he just killed two birds with one stone. When, Michael, you
[00:44:50] talk about the fact that, uh, Iran, the whole
[00:44:53] conflict in the Persian Gulf, yes, it's no secret that
[00:44:57] American oil producers and sellers earn
[00:45:01] money on this oil, they earn money whether the oil prices are rising
[00:45:04] or falling, they use this crisis, but with
[00:45:08] diesel they don't succeed. but there is no partner, you understand,
[00:45:11] there is no, there is no one else to play this game with, so that
[00:45:15] they can also play on the world markets, regarding diesel,
[00:45:19] against whom is this directed, if Trump will have, Trump
[00:45:22] is a player, he will play with crude oil as well as
[00:45:25] oil refining, who is the consumer, who is the most
[00:45:28] important consumer of oil and oil refining,
[00:45:31] Europe, Europe will look
[00:45:34] at Trump, as they are doing now, and and what
[00:45:38] about us, I, I the first part.
[00:49:15] The CDU, the Minister of Labor from the Social Democratic Party
[00:49:18] has already resigned, respectively, because she failed
[00:49:21] all the reforms. announced by Friedrich Merz. If Chancellor Merz barely
[00:49:25] gets a rating of 14%. Accordingly, the dissatisfaction of
[00:49:29] Europeans is growing. Why should we supply weapons to Ukraine, or rather pay for
[00:49:32] these weapons. Accordingly, yes, objectively, Europe is actually
[00:49:36] geometrically increasing military
[00:49:39] production, but this production is mainly drones, interceptor drones,
[00:49:42] respectively, various artillery means, but not
[00:49:46] strategic ones, respectively, for example, Rheinmetall practically has no orders for
[00:49:50] the production of new main battle tanks, about...
[00:49:52] the Franco-German tank of the new generation simply failed, it was already
[00:49:55] buried, accordingly, what Europeans bought from Americans,
[00:49:59] they cannot produce themselves yet, accordingly, here I agree with Michael, most likely
[00:50:03] Europe may indeed switch to supporting precisely
[00:50:06] the terrorist attacks of the Ukrainian regime, which already puts it practically
[00:50:10] on a par with state terrorists, but this is already, as they say, you have to think about
[00:50:14] what to do with this abscess, as they say, the size of a whole continent, but in
[00:50:18] general, it can be said that Europeans without American
[00:50:21] military... let's say, component, currently simply cannot
[00:50:25] pull Ukraine out, accordingly, either complete degradation, why Trump
[00:50:28] said they need to appoint a new president, because he perfectly
[00:50:32] understands that Ukraine is one step away from territorial disintegration, from
[00:50:36] collapse, if in winter, for example, Kyiv will be practically
[00:50:40] without sewerage, without light, the same applies to other large Ukrainian cities,
[00:50:44] then this will actually push the governors or goulash, call them
[00:50:47] what you want, towards separation from the central government, then it will be
[00:50:51] necessary to appoint someone... No,
[00:51:04] not at all, the thing is that the US and
[00:51:07] the European Union, these two, compare them in terms of
[00:51:10] legal personality, the US does not perceive the European Union as a legal partner,
[00:51:14] they perceive the European Union as a subordinate, as a cash cow, whatever you want,
[00:51:18] the US does not perceive, specifically Trump does not perceive, first,
[00:51:22] second. Europe knows that they do not have enough strength to
[00:51:25] resist Trump, they are forced to take into account his strength, if they continue to supply weapons
[00:51:29] to Ukraine, within the framework of Pearl,
[00:51:32] because why do I say that Pearl will not be suspended now, and you are right in this
[00:51:36] regard, Alexander, absolutely right, so why will this happen, the thing is
[00:51:40] that it will be a torpedoing of Trump's diplomatic efforts
[00:51:43] to improve this situation, that is, it will actually torpedo his
[00:51:47] diesel deal, and what is the consequence of this, and this is fraught
[00:51:50] for the Europeans, that... he rages, and this is very
[00:51:54] serious for the Europeans, why? Because he is actually holding them like this now,
[00:51:58] you understand what the whole point is, by the way, listen, excuse me, what kind of,
[00:52:01] I think I'm his politician.
[00:52:44] we pump crude oil through Ukraine for Hungary and Slovakia, two European Union countries buy
[00:52:48] crude oil,
[00:52:50] European countries buy liquefied gas, and in record amounts, even pipeline
[00:52:54] gas, Greece, Hungary, and Slovakia buy, that is,
[00:52:57] Europe is slowly, yes, they
[00:53:00] say that from January 1, 2027, they will stop, but
[00:53:03] for some reason now.
[00:54:14] The European Union not only makes claims against Ukraine now, it constantly
[00:54:18] delays its entry into its composition, for the simple
[00:54:21] reason, for the simple reason that when Ukraine begins
[00:54:25] to actually enter the European Union, it will break apart, and everyone
[00:54:28] knows this now, it will not enter, and it doesn't matter, this will
[00:54:32] not happen, I wish it would.
[00:54:35] Yes, it's clear, that's all, friends, thank you very much,
[00:54:38] uh, we, of course, by the way, it's also characteristic,
[00:54:41] yes, it seemed like such a striking statement, we propose to appoint
[00:54:45] a new leader, we talked about it, but somehow, so to speak,
[00:54:48] we didn't really concentrate, yes, although, so to speak, it seemed like
[00:54:52] a sensation, apparently we understand that a change of leader, so
[00:54:55] to speak, but without changing the main paradigm, nothing will change,
[00:54:59] maybe that's the point, and the paradigm may be
[00:55:02] changing, the ice has broken, as all our experts said, without exception,
[00:55:06] thank you for your attention, we will be back after the break, thank
[00:55:07] you,
[01:00:27] work, we are live, the program "Time will show", in the studio is still
[01:00:31] Anatoly Kuzichev. Donald Trump thanks
[01:00:34] Putin for diesel, says that prices at gas stations in the States will soon
[01:00:38] collapse, but there is one nuance here: there is an opinion
[01:00:42] that the fuel crisis in America was created by Trump himself, actually, due to
[01:00:45] the escalation with Iran, shipping in the Strait of Hormuz practically
[01:00:48] stopped, and this is the main
[01:00:52] route for oil and gas to the world market. Prices, accordingly,
[01:00:55] rose everywhere. And what does Trump do in this
[01:00:58] regard? Well, the most obvious thing that will help
[01:01:02] fix the situation, he is thinking how to rename
[01:01:05] this strait. Look at this.
[01:01:09] We are thinking about renaming the Strait of Hormuz to the Strait
[01:01:12] of Trump. Well, that also seems so-so, from the point
[01:01:16] of view of PR, marketing. all decisions, imagine if all the newspapers
[01:01:19] wrote Trump blocked,
[01:01:22] I don't know, I think it needs to be thought through, the initiative is interesting,
[01:01:26] but it needs refinement, it's clear that
[01:01:29] Trump wants to make history, leaving his mark everywhere, including in
[01:01:32] the Strait of Hormuz, for now there, uh, excuse me for
[01:01:36] the uncomplicated pun, only burning tankers leave traces, over
[01:01:40] the weekend three, and two
[01:01:42] oil tankers were blown up by sea mines when they tried to pass through
[01:01:46] the strait without coordinating this with the Iranian authorities,
[01:01:49] another tanker was hit by some unknown projectile, in general,
[01:01:53] of course, this is not a bad characterization of
[01:01:55] the situation,
[01:01:57] and, so to speak, the prospects, I think, when, when there is, when the message in
[01:02:01] the world press looks like an unknown projectile hit some tanker,
[01:02:04] what is happening there at all, I want to ask, and I
[01:02:07] will ask, it's hot in the Middle East,
[01:02:10] this is the only thing that is completely obvious, the Houthis attacked the international
[01:02:14] airport in Riyadh, 12 people died.
[01:02:33] The US, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Palestine, and
[01:02:36] Sudan. A day later, the Saudi Arabian airport was again under
[01:02:39] attack, this time one person died, and 11 more
[01:02:43] were injured. The Houthis promised to continue attacks on
[01:02:46] Saudi Arabian airports. It is clear
[01:02:49] that the Arab coalition led by Saudi Arabia called the attack on
[01:02:53] the airport a war crime and promised a decisive
[01:02:56] response. Listen.
[01:03:11] The United States is not in a hurry to provide assistance. In recent
[01:03:15] weeks, Mohammed bin Salman has repeatedly appealed to Donald Trump with
[01:03:19] a request to take action jointly with him against the Houthi movement, but
[01:03:23] so far the United States is limiting its support only to intelligence services.
[01:03:26] Saudi Arabia is making efforts to turn the fight against'.
[01:04:00] decision, we act very quickly.
[01:04:03] Well, accordingly, the question that has already been asked, what is happening there at all, I address
[01:04:06] to you, Ilin Vladimirovna, we need to at least in some kind of,
[01:04:10] I don't know, Middle Eastern literacy program, who, with
[01:04:13] whom, how much, if in the Middle Eastern
[01:04:17] literacy program, then I can answer what is happening there, everything is bad
[01:04:20] there, no, in one word, I know that word, no need, can I expand a little,
[01:04:24] okay, everything fell apart according to the domino
[01:04:27] principle,
[01:04:29] and that operation that Donald Trump started
[01:04:33] against Iran in February of this year, and I would even say earlier,
[01:04:36] last summer, when attacks on Iranian
[01:04:40] nuclear facilities began, it pulled a whole complex of events
[01:04:43] with it, you built the dominos, removed one,
[01:04:47] everything fell, because the Houthis are
[01:04:51] in Yemen, they are allies of Iran,
[01:04:53] and of course they have their own internal Yemeni
[01:04:57] agenda, but nevertheless they came. activity
[01:05:01] only after everything around
[01:05:04] them flared up, the Strait of Hormuz on one side, and where Yemen,
[01:05:08] the Yemeni Houthis, the Bab-el-Mandeb Strait,
[01:05:11] Saudi Arabia, seeing that the Strait of Hormuz
[01:05:14] was partially closed, and there
[01:05:18] was a period when it was completely closed, began to build
[01:05:20] alternative routes for oil exports, through
[01:05:23] Bab-el-Mandeb, and it's also
[01:05:27] restless there now, the Houthis are hitting
[01:05:30] targets in Saudi Arabia, and Saudi
[01:05:33] Arabia, having turned to the US for help, did not find
[01:05:37] proper support, this is also a big problem. Understood,
[01:05:40] understood, and tell me please, now Elena Vladimirovna and Sergey, well, if we
[01:05:44] are talking about the image of dominoes here, do you imagine
[01:05:47] the entire structure of dominoes, and if so, then
[01:05:50] it is clear that, so to speak, the sequential fall
[01:05:54] of these dominoes will lead to the collapse of the entire structure, what does
[01:05:57] this structure look like, it's burning. it looks like this,
[01:06:01] that the escalation in Lebanon, the escalation in Syria, in
[01:06:04] the end what, in the end chaos, what will be like
[01:06:08] chaos, just chaos, in the end it also turns out that
[01:06:11] Saudi Arabia needs to look for some allies, in early August
[01:06:15] Saudi Arabia concluded the Mican agreements with
[01:06:18] Pakistan and Turkey, but
[01:06:22] here too everything is not happening very quickly, and why did the US
[01:06:25] refuse to help, well there are several reasons, they actively
[01:06:28] refused to help, because... Saudi
[01:06:39] Arabia was generally shocked by Trump's operation against Iran
[01:06:42] and did not rush to
[01:06:45] help
[01:06:48] Trump has a good memory and is very unpopular in America
[01:06:52] itself.
[01:06:56] I would like to continue my colleague's thought about the fact that...
[01:07:02] everything is bad in the Middle East in terms of education, I would say that not just bad, everything is worse and worse, that's what
[01:07:06] concerns the Houthis, look,
[01:07:08] we see this
[01:07:11] monstrous attack on the airport in Riyadh, when did
[01:07:15] this happen, this happened a few days after
[01:07:18] in Yemen itself, the government
[01:07:21] troops launched the so-called "Operation Dawn" against
[01:07:25] the Houthis,
[01:07:27] and again, just last week, this... this so-called
[01:07:31] "Mican coalition," Pakistan,
[01:07:34] Saudi Arabia, and Turkey, gathered in
[01:07:38] Riyadh, which is now under attack, stated that
[01:07:41] we will not allow.
[01:08:12] with the states, we call Mikhail Tilman for a direct
[01:08:16] connection, a political scientist from the United States, our regular expert, Mikhail
[01:08:20] Vladimirovich, hello, glad to see
[01:08:27] interesting, Nikolai Mikhailovich rightly said that
[01:08:30] in fact, one of the motives
[01:08:34] not to interfere and not to support too much, well, apart from, so to speak,
[01:08:37] verbally Saudi
[01:08:40] Arabia, is that the war in the Middle East is all for...
[01:09:12] that is, a long-term large-scale campaign
[01:09:15] or some kind of short retaliatory strike,
[01:09:19] yes, such a short-term, maybe even a one-time one, well, it is absolutely obvious
[01:09:23] that out of these three options, the last one is the most
[01:09:27] likely, because as for diplomatic efforts, well, it's not very
[01:09:30] clear what and how Trump is going to talk to the Houthis,
[01:09:34] well, you can't really talk to them right now, let's say
[01:09:37] that, yes, as for a long-term, long-term, so
[01:09:40] to speak, powerful campaign, for example, well, for this you need forces
[01:09:44] and means, which the United States simply does not have in this case,
[01:09:48] that very boulevard that cannot carry two, as Elena said, it did not even
[01:09:52] carry one, strictly speaking, if you take into account the results of the campaign
[01:09:55] against Iran, well, look, of the same Tomahawks, so, there were 3,000, now there are
[01:09:59] 2,000, thousands were spent, to replenish these
[01:10:03] thousands, it takes about 5 years, they produce 200 a year now, well, maybe they will increase it,
[01:10:06] let's say, they will do it in three, the production cycle is 3-4 months,
[01:10:10] prismatapack - these are such... yes, there are almost none, that is, well,
[01:10:14] the problem, you understand, that is, so it will most likely be
[01:10:17] such a one-time demonstrative strike, look how we can
[01:10:21] punish everyone. And tell me, Mish, what are the current
[01:10:24] priorities, if so, it is clear that this is a certain simplification, because everything is very interconnected
[01:10:28] and so on, but nevertheless, if we try to simplify, what
[01:10:32] are the foreign policy priorities of the United
[01:10:35] States, is it the Middle East, Ukraine, in that
[01:10:39] hierarchical order or vice versa, or no priority.
[01:10:42] or or I don't know, something else, well,
[01:10:46] the priorities of American foreign policy are based on the national
[01:10:49] security doctrine, the national security strategy, which was
[01:10:53] published in November of last year, according to which
[01:10:56] the following priorities are defined: the first priority is control over the Western
[01:11:00] Hemisphere by the United States, the second priority is
[01:11:03] control over the so-called supply chains, that is, not only over
[01:11:07] maritime routes, but also over the supply of energy carriers, a critically
[01:11:10] important element of the global economy, third, naturally, the role of the dollar as
[01:11:14] a strategic asset, these are the priorities, based on this,
[01:11:17] what is our priority, of course, the Middle East, because this is oil - these
[01:11:20] are trade routes, one of the main trade routes - this is, of course,
[01:11:24] the Red Sea, the Suez Canal, but the Suez Canal is meaningless without the Bab-el-Mandeb Strait,
[01:11:28] which is now practically controlled by the Houthis, so it needs
[01:11:31] something to be done here, well, plus oil from the Strait of Hormuz, that is, the Middle East
[01:11:35] is a priority, as for the mention of Ukraine, no, it is not
[01:11:39] a priority at all, you said, it is the first, Ukraine is the second, Ukraine is not...
[01:12:42] influenced, but we influence. And, in fact, to news from the front.
[01:12:46] Our troops continue to push and advance along the entire line of combat contact. Today,
[01:12:50] the settlement of Nikolskoye in the Zaporozhye region
[01:12:54] and the settlement of Lidina in the Donetsk People's
[01:12:57] Republic came under Russia's control. During the liberation of Lidina, Russian troops used
[01:13:01] continuous fire tactics, which led to
[01:13:04] The Ukrainian Armed Forces are confused. This is reported by our Ministry of
[01:13:07] Defense. Over the weekend, Russian Aerospace Forces launched attacks with
[01:13:11] jet drones and ballistic missiles against data centers,
[01:13:15] logistics centers and enemy
[01:13:18] energy infrastructure facilities. Explosions thundered in
[01:13:21] Sumy, Kharkiv, Zaporizhzhia, Dnipropetrovsk and Kherson regions.
[01:13:25] It was loud in Kyiv and Odesa. Port
[01:13:29] infrastructure facilities of Ukraine were also hit. Marine vessels carrying
[01:13:32] military cargo were also hit. This was also reported by our Ministry of
[01:13:36] Defense. Four enemy locomotives in Odesa,
[01:13:39] Kryvyi Rih and Dnipropetrovsk region fell into a fiery trap.
[01:13:43] Russian Geraniums, having hit electric locomotives,
[01:13:47] significantly disrupted the transport
[01:13:50] logistics of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Well, accordingly,
[01:13:54] it is clear that we...
[01:14:25] You know, we have a benchmark voiced by the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service,
[01:14:29] when our
[01:14:33] special service reported that, in their opinion,
[01:14:35] Ukraine, in the mode in which they
[01:14:38] currently exist, in the mode of Russification as it is currently being carried out, will
[01:14:41] be exhausted somewhere within a year. Accordingly,
[01:14:44] the intensification of impact on logistics, and generally on the sexual
[01:14:47] infrastructure of the enemy, creates
[01:14:51] a burden that may shorten this period.
[01:14:54] Got it, got it, got it, okay, well, that is,
[01:14:58] nevertheless, within a year, as the intelligence
[01:15:02] service reports, yes, it is clear that the situation can
[01:15:05] significantly, significantly shorten, taking into account, well,
[01:15:09] of course, taking into account the intensification, so to speak, of intensity, then all this will indeed
[01:15:12] shorten. Well, Ukraine is already predicted to have a collapse
[01:15:16] of life support systems in large cities at least, the former head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said,
[01:15:20] do you remember him, Dmytro Kuleba,
[01:15:23] listen,
[01:15:25] I think the worst thing will be the collapse of systems that support
[01:15:29] the life of a big city, electricity, water, plumbing. If you look
[01:15:33] at what Russia is aiming for, it's not just energy
[01:15:35] infrastructure, and the main difference between last winter and this one will
[01:15:39] be that a year ago Russia was aiming at the
[01:15:42] energy system to plunge Ukraine into darkness, but now they
[01:15:46] are hitting the energy system, water supply, supermarket
[01:15:50] network warehouses, so they don't just want to plunge Ukraine into
[01:15:54] darkness, they want...
[01:16:25] Director of the Energy Research Center, you know, there are such, so to speak,
[01:16:28] linguists, they study dead languages,
[01:16:31] so I understand that energy research in
[01:16:35] Ukraine is like studying a dead language of some sort, but nevertheless, while there is
[01:16:38] still, so to speak, such a center, Alexander
[01:16:42] Kharchenko is in charge of it, he explains why all this
[01:16:45] is inevitable, and in fact the answer is kind of consistent,
[01:16:48] calm, without hysteria, but that's what makes it scary,
[01:16:51] listen, what element... Which
[01:16:55] element of the energy system today, in your opinion, remains the weakest
[01:16:59] link for us, is it generation, is it substations,
[01:17:03] is it networks or something
[01:17:04] else?
[01:17:08] The energy system is a single organism that
[01:17:12] is united, the Ukrainian energy system is
[01:17:15] a single whole, therefore, to say that there is some weak
[01:17:18] link, would be
[01:17:19] a lie.
[01:19:38] but there is a significant, of course, information release on this
[01:19:41] topic, it is of course oriented towards the Western
[01:19:45] Western elites and the population, who
[01:19:48] should pity Ukraine and accordingly authorize the use of their
[01:19:51] funds, their taxes, so that
[01:19:54] the next money is allocated to Ukraine. In general, Ukraine is now screaming very loudly,
[01:19:58] it must be said that this also happened before, they constantly whined,
[01:20:01] yes, they constantly said that we need more money, we need more money, but now this is a much more
[01:20:05] realistic request, because now they...
[01:20:37] He will be imprisoned, anything can happen to him, but he will no longer be a politician,
[01:20:40] therefore he clung to this
[01:20:44] story with his teeth, and he is pushing the military
[01:20:47] topic, he is corrupting Western elites, it is generally clear
[01:20:50] that, so to speak, he will say something with
[01:20:54] increased attacks, with increased intensity, he will, so to
[01:20:57] speak, appeal, I don't know, more and more to his people and to the West, saying,
[01:21:01] look, these are animals, and what do you want, so to speak, to see what they
[01:21:04] are doing, and so on, no one will.
[01:22:07] will there be electricity, will there be canned goods, matches for people, will they
[01:22:11] freeze in their homes, he will have enough of all this,
[01:22:14] personally he will have enough, and the pathos to tell
[01:22:17] people, again I remind you of President Trump's
[01:22:21] words that a new leader is needed,
[01:22:25] he said it well, we discussed it in the previous part, we need to appoint
[01:22:27] a new leader for them.
[01:22:29] I would like to add to what has already been said that
[01:22:33] Ukrainian prisoners of war very clearly
[01:22:36] articulate three...
[01:23:07] how is it that every city is another Ukrainian fortress,
[01:23:11] potentially, that's all. The importance of cities
[01:23:14] for the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and for Zelensky, it generally
[01:23:17] exhausts itself, look right now. In
[01:23:20] confirmation of our conversations, our, so to speak, considerations, here is
[01:23:24] a publication or a fragment of a publication
[01:23:27] from a local Ukrainian source, a Ukrainian
[01:23:29] Telegram channel, with reference to some, so to
[01:23:33] speak, to some sources in the President's Office,
[01:23:37] listen,
[01:23:39] our source in the President's Office said that Zelensky wants
[01:23:43] to escalate amid the disruption of the negotiation track. Now,
[01:23:47] strikes on bridges and blocking of airports in Russia are being
[01:23:50] discussed as key pressure points on the enemy. On Bankova
[01:23:53] Street, they believe that Ukraine will get through winter in a crisis scenario, and in
[01:23:57] spring a new negotiation window may open. The budget deficit
[01:24:01] is to be resolved in two ways: devaluation
[01:24:03] of the hryvnia and funds from the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the National Bank
[01:24:07] of Ukraine. Possible anti-corruption cases against
[01:24:10] the President's Office's clientele do not scare
[01:24:13] Zelensky, as long as he is president, no one will get
[01:24:16] real prison terms. He is president for now, that's right.
[01:24:20] While the war is going on, in fact, the circle is closed.
[01:24:23] Well, while Trump is actually putting pressure on Zelensky, we
[01:24:26] mentioned, yes, they need to change him, and so on, he threatens
[01:24:30] to stop arms supplies, Maxius wrote about it, that, so to speak,
[01:24:33] Trump, something is seriously being discussed, that if, so to speak,
[01:24:37] Ukrainians do not heed Trump's words, his requests, proposals
[01:24:41] and demands, then even stopping arms supplies,
[01:24:44] canceling, so to speak, intelligence
[01:24:48] data transfers, and so on. So,
[01:24:51] who will save Kyiv under these circumstances? Well, of course, Europe.
[01:24:54] Europe is preparing to save Kyiv. It intends
[01:24:58] to do this with the help of, firstly, well, they probably have
[01:25:01] a big plan, but firstly, with the help of, first and foremost,
[01:25:05] new sanctions against Russia, the adoption of which was announced
[01:25:09] by Kaja Kallas, on your screens. Listen. The suspension of sanctions against
[01:25:13] Russian diesel gives Moscow additional revenue for waging
[01:25:16] war. Now is not the time to weaken. this week, we will discuss its
[01:26:20] financing needs for next year and how
[01:26:23] to attract new international support. This week,
[01:26:27] the European Union will also provide additional funding for
[01:26:30] drones and missiles. Well,
[01:26:33] the exact amount of European support for 2027 is still
[01:26:37] unclear; it needs to be discussed and
[01:26:40] agreed upon. Naturally, Zelensky has already, however, boasted
[01:26:43] that Ukraine will receive 3 billion euros
[01:26:47] in military support already next.
[01:26:52] We discussed in great detail with Ursula von der Leyen,
[01:26:56] literally all relevant areas of our work with the European Union and
[01:26:59] the decisions needed to support Ukraine. I thanked
[01:27:03] Ursula for the recent tranche of 1 billion 240 million
[01:27:07] euros for defense, which has already arrived in Ukraine. I am grateful
[01:27:10] for the confirmation that another 3 billion euros in military
[01:27:14] support will be allocated already next
[01:27:17] week.
[01:27:20] it sounds pretty impressive, although, of course, compared to these
[01:27:23] 29 billion, 47 billion, 90 billion, and how much
[01:27:26] else, 300 billion, well,
[01:27:29] of course,
[01:27:31] it looks like mockery on the one hand, but on the other hand, no, in
[01:27:34] a week,
[01:27:36] it's clear that this week is only one, not that every week, but still he
[01:27:40] is selling last year's snow, because all this money is within
[01:27:43] the previously allocated sums, they just transfer it and even
[01:27:47] not all promised money is transferred.
[01:28:20] they allocate and allocate, but how do they live themselves? Well, look,
[01:28:24] here's a Member of the European Parliament, not to say that he's a superstar, but as Fernando
[01:28:27] Cartaiser said well, he's from
[01:28:30] Luxembourg, he believes... that the European Council should be renamed the
[01:28:34] Assembly of Heads of State of Ukraine, because the problem of
[01:28:38] Ukraine interests him much more than the problems of his own citizens, this is not
[01:28:41] news to us, but it was said from such a tribune, maybe someone
[01:28:45] will hear, I don't know, listen
[01:28:47] to you.
[01:28:49] The European Council should be called the Assembly of Heads of State and
[01:28:53] Government of Ukraine, and Koshcha should be replaced by Zelensky. It seems
[01:28:57] that the EU Council doesn't care about European citizens, in the draft
[01:29:00] conclusion.
[01:29:04] migration crisis. Ukraine, on the other hand, has
[01:29:08] 168 lines regarding defense. Thus,
[01:29:11] 168 unconditional lines for Zelensky
[01:29:15] is unconditional agreement, and for our citizens only
[01:29:18] 13 lines. Since we no longer have money to finance this
[01:29:22] war, we need to talk about diplomacy and negotiate with
[01:29:25] Russia, but the European Council prefers to ignore the problems
[01:29:29] of European citizens in favor of Zelensky's corrupt regime.
[01:29:33] I don't know, such speeches from the tribune of the European Parliament are becoming more frequent,
[01:29:37] just the other day another deputy spoke in the same
[01:29:40] vein, telling what problems there are
[01:29:43] within the European Union, and how
[01:29:47] they cannot be solved because a part of the funds, and not
[01:29:50] a small part, goes to Ukraine, and suspicions of
[01:29:54] corruption are also voiced, yes, but here
[01:29:57] it's more interesting not what is voiced, but what will be heard and even
[01:30:00] who, not immediately, not
[01:31:10] the situation is changing, it is changing, there is fatigue from
[01:31:13] Ukraine in all senses, in political,
[01:31:16] military,
[01:31:19] economic, yes, finally, generally in
[01:31:22] a meaningful sense, what is it, what kind of madness is this, therefore these
[01:31:26] people who are pushing this agenda, also challenging
[01:31:29] Trump, they are also on their last legs, hmm. specifically,
[01:31:33] there is fatigue from Zelensky, not only in America, but even in Europe, he
[01:31:36] does politically unwise things, and because of
[01:31:39] this, well, then we must pray that he remains as long as
[01:31:43] possible, because if a person comes who will do politically smart
[01:31:46] things,
[01:31:52] and they would want a politically smart one, but Zelensky is against it, it’s just not possible
[01:31:56] to simply remove him with a flick of a finger, a lot is tied to him, including in
[01:32:00] Europe, by the way, yes, by the way, yes, when I talked about
[01:32:03] Trump, I said that this is a dangerous statement for Trump, because imagine, he said that we need
[01:32:07] to change, well, they discussed Zelensky, yes, and imagine if nothing happens,
[01:32:10] it seems to me that it’s not good reputationally, so to speak, it will happen, Anatoly,
[01:32:14] it will happen, it will happen,
[01:32:17] when, oh, I got it,
[01:32:20] okay, sooner or later it's clear, I just wanted to add
[01:32:23] one point, I came across a fact, so, well, an event,
[01:32:27] which literally happened today, yesterday, the Minister of Labor and
[01:32:31] Social Protection resigned
[01:32:35] from Merz, that is, we are used to generalizing European elites, that they are all pro-Ukrainian and so on, but
[01:32:39] they also have an internal bureaucracy in their countries that is responsible for
[01:32:42] the economy, for the social sphere, it is sounding the alarm, they
[01:32:45] say, guys, stop it, what are you doing? How are we going to finance
[01:32:48] the budget? Now they are writing the budget, so she ran away, because she cannot write the budget
[01:32:52] for next year, the ends don't meet, she says, "Let's put so much more on defense than
[01:32:56] before, and you. Tell me where to cut,
[01:32:59] where to cut, are you crazy,
[01:33:03] guy?" And this is felt in many
[01:33:07] countries, this gives rise to
[01:33:10] what we are talking about.
[01:33:13] Besides, we saw the president's rating
[01:33:16] is 15%, the French president
[01:33:19] said that the upcoming elections this
[01:33:22] coming year, including in France, everyone is waiting for them
[01:33:26] with great interest and tension. Two words about Zelensky: you see
[01:33:29] how expensive he is to European elites that they
[01:34:15] Well, I would like to add the following to what has been said: Of course, I really
[01:34:18] want to believe that as soon as possible,
[01:34:21] not only the visible foundation
[01:34:24] of the European Union and generally this structure
[01:34:27] of Euro-globalism in Europe, it will begin to collapse,
[01:34:31] but practically now, while there are
[01:34:34] cracks, there are still no seismic, cardinal
[01:34:37] changes, the power in the hands of
[01:34:41] m... is still too great to quickly
[01:34:45] get rid of this, the process will
[01:34:58] develop, for now, unfortunately, still by
[01:35:01] inertia, and we observe this, including observing
[01:35:05] how the ставка on escalation continues, because
[01:35:08] I repeat, this company simply has no plan B,
[01:35:12] even already by... but a lot in Europe is still tied to confrontation with
[01:35:22] Russia, if it does not
[01:35:25] stop in one way or another, but simply the intensity
[01:35:29] of this, yes, goes down
[01:35:31] in degree, of course, of confrontation,
[01:35:35] then for many representatives of the European
[01:35:38] political establishment this may end not
[01:35:41] only, I believe, in political death, but for
[01:35:51] But it won't end there. After the break, we'll be back in the studio,
[01:40:28] At the end of the program, here are a few statements from
[01:40:32] Russian officials, very interesting and important. We were talking today,
[01:40:35] yes, mentioning these flashes of consciousness, bubbles of Zelensky's consciousness, which
[01:40:39] burst from time to time, one thing then another,
[01:40:42] then he's ready to hold elections, provided that Putin
[01:40:46] doesn't strike Ukraine for 2 months. Putin will be ready
[01:40:49] not to strike Ukraine for only one day, if
[01:40:53] Ukraine decides to hold elections, said presidential spokesman
[01:40:57] Dmitry Peskov, adding 60 days. that Zelensky is demanding are not needed for
[01:41:00] holding elections, but to gather strength, heal wounds and
[01:41:03] continue the war. The
[01:41:07] Russian Foreign Ministry expressed roughly the same position, yes, our presidential spokesman
[01:41:11] added that we do not want a ceasefire, we want long-term
[01:41:14] peace, and are ready to do everything possible to achieve it. The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed the same
[01:41:18] position. Lavrov stated that Zelensky does not deserve a respite on
[01:41:22] the battlefield, and Russia will not be fooled by his
[01:41:25] statements. On this high note, I thank you all
[01:41:28] for your attention, see you
[01:41:37] Good afternoon, "The Great Game" is live, I am Vyacheslav
[01:41:40] Nikonov. Well, we have found ourselves in
[01:41:44] a new geopolitical, military-strategic
[01:41:47] reality after a phone conversation between two
[01:41:50] presidents on Friday,
[01:41:53] a conversation that lasted an hour and a half.
[01:41:57] Some momentous decisions were reached. Well,
[01:42:01] first of all, the decision that the United States
[01:42:04] allows the export of Russian diesel
[01:42:07] and is going to purchase it in fairly large
[01:42:11] volumes. This exploded the global information
[01:42:14] space and the global political agenda. In fact,
[01:42:17] the situation has indeed sharply changed,
[01:42:21] and what are these changes, in what
[01:42:24] direction, what does this mean for the special...
[01:42:59] During the phone conversation on October 9th with US President
[01:43:02] Donald Trump, significant attention was paid to the prospects of resolving
[01:43:06] the Ukrainian crisis, also touching upon the situation around Iran and various aspects
[01:43:10] of bilateral relations. When discussing the situation in global
[01:43:13] energy, the Russian side confirmed its readiness to supply
[01:43:16] oil and oil products to the American and global markets. The agreement on continuing
[01:43:20] personal contacts between the presidents of the two
[01:43:23] countries was confirmed, as well as cooperation between the presidential administrations.
[01:43:29] Russia, as is known, suspended the export
[01:43:33] of diesel fuel, although we have quite
[01:43:37] decent diesel reserves. There were problems,
[01:43:40] if anyone noticed.