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[00:00:17] a vicar, what Iya did,
[00:00:19] this is just
[00:00:21] a miracle,
[00:00:25] I found my
[00:00:28] shot, are we ready?
[00:01:22] The big game is on air, the United States and
[00:01:24] Russia
[00:01:27] agreed on deliveries to Russia.
[00:01:54] but what a scandal naturally broke out in Kyiv among Kyiv's accomplices
[00:01:57] in Europe and even. in some part,
[00:02:01] in a significant part, I dare say,
[00:02:04] of the American Congress of American mass media.
[00:02:08] Most of all, of course, I am always
[00:02:12] impressed
[00:02:14] by Comrade Zelensky, he impresses me
[00:02:18] with his absolute certainty that he
[00:02:22] can dictate anything to anyone,
[00:02:25] at least from among his so-called
[00:02:29] partners. But there
[00:02:31] is a rule: don't
[00:02:34] bite the hand that feeds you,
[00:02:38] but for Zelensky, such
[00:02:41] a principle absolutely does not exist, and he
[00:02:45] allows himself to lecture the American
[00:02:49] president, effectively explaining to him
[00:02:52] his inadequacy, all
[00:02:55] of this, I sincerely believe that
[00:02:58] this cannot in any way. cannot in any way affect
[00:03:02] the level of American support,
[00:03:05] I waited a long time
[00:03:07] for our Polish allies
[00:03:11] to break loose,
[00:03:14] but until recently they, at least, observed some
[00:03:18] decorum towards the United States,
[00:03:21] understanding their dependence on America, but they also
[00:03:25] couldn't resist, let's listen to what
[00:03:28] the Polish Prime Minister said...
[00:03:34] Nothing will remove Russia's full 100% responsibility for the war in
[00:03:38] Ukraine. Everyone who tries to put the sides on an equal footing, everyone
[00:03:41] who claims that Ukraine is responsible for the war, is making
[00:03:44] an extremely valuable gift to the aggressor, Putin. Anyone who, out of
[00:03:48] betrayal, stupidity or for the sake of money, seeks to weaken Ukraine in its
[00:03:51] struggle against Russian aggression, acts directly against
[00:03:54] their own people, the security of their country and its
[00:03:57] sovereignty. Well, there you have it, Andrey
[00:04:01] Ivanovich, I'll start by saying that I want to sincerely
[00:04:05] congratulate you on your election as Chairman of the Federation Council
[00:04:09] Committee on International Affairs. I know that
[00:04:12] this is a great honor, that this is a great responsibility, but I
[00:04:16] also believe that this is an excellent decision from
[00:04:19] the point of view of the interests of the Federation Council
[00:04:22] itself and Russian foreign policy.
[00:04:26] Thank you, thank you, and of course, I
[00:04:29] want to ask you. You are a very experienced
[00:04:31] diplomat, you were ambassador to China,
[00:04:35] to the UN, you
[00:04:38] were First Deputy Minister of Foreign
[00:04:41] Affairs, have you ever heard such a tone
[00:04:45] from heads of states dependent on the United States?
[00:04:48] Not just me, nobody has ever heard it. You know, there is some kind of
[00:04:51] hopelessness in all this, some kind of funnel has just sucked
[00:04:55] in figures, well, like this Polish leader, whom
[00:04:58] we, in general, know well, he
[00:05:02] worked for a long time in various government positions in
[00:05:05] Poland, then in Brussels he was the chairman
[00:05:09] of the European Commission, well, and so on, in short, a figure, a figure well-
[00:05:30] known to us, but what he is saying now really goes beyond all bounds, to put it simply, look at the lexicon, he doesn't name names, but he says that what happened is either stupidity or greed, that is, accusations addressed to the President of the United States of America, expressed
[00:05:34] in such words, but indeed, this has never happened before,
[00:05:37] this is the same Tusk, this is the same
[00:06:42] moreover, the criticism is bipartisan,
[00:06:46] let's listen to the statement of seven senators, four
[00:06:50] of whom are Republicans and three
[00:06:53] are Democrats.
[00:06:56] In 2022, Congress directly prohibited the import of energy resources from
[00:07:00] Russia so that American money would not go to finance Putin's war against
[00:07:03] Ukraine. The position of Congress was unambiguous: the US should not buy
[00:07:07] Russian oil until Russia stops aggression against Ukraine and stops
[00:07:10] threatening US NATO allies. President Trump's decision to allow the import
[00:07:14] of Russian diesel fuel into the US directly contradicts this law. Moreover,
[00:07:18] VTB. To feed the cat, Congress and did not justify its
[00:07:22] decision, as required by law. The US should not provide Putin
[00:07:25] a financial lifeline while Russia continues to kill civilians
[00:07:28] in Ukraine. The administration should immediately review its
[00:07:31] course. Well, I must say right away that
[00:07:35] to put all this into, if I may say so, an American
[00:07:39] domestic political perspective. From these.
[00:08:12] United States.
[00:08:16] First of all, we will act within our legal powers. All those in
[00:08:20] Congress who say that some old law or the current
[00:08:23] Lindsey Graham bill forbids us to do this, are wrong. Listen, President Trump
[00:08:27] came to power with a mandate to work for the American people, lowering diesel
[00:08:31] fuel prices is good for the American
[00:08:33] people.
[00:08:35] Now, as for attempts to stop,
[00:08:39] to stop this deal in Congress.
[00:10:55] with the naked eye, and if in the United States all this
[00:10:58] looks quite natural, but there have always been
[00:11:01] different parties, different groups, Trump's support was
[00:11:05] such that, I would say, far from universal,
[00:11:09] it reached very serious accusations against
[00:11:12] each other, against Trump himself, all this is within the logic of the American
[00:11:16] domestic political struggle, if you will, or
[00:11:19] discussion, but as for Europe, here, of course, there is some kind of.
[00:11:23] just a squeal, just a squeal, here, here,
[00:11:26] here, here,
[00:11:29] well, as they say, they got them, they got them, they stung them, there,
[00:11:33] apparently, well, they just, they just didn't expect it, and all this coincided
[00:11:37] with the negotiations in Miami, which, probably,
[00:11:40] is doubly offensive for the Europeans who participated
[00:11:43] in them, the Ukrainian delegation refused to continue these
[00:11:47] negotiations, there were Europeans there, nothing is said about Europeans, but apparently not without
[00:11:51] the prompting of Europeans, everything. this happened, in a word, we
[00:11:55] are observing simply some kind of,
[00:11:58] some kind of cosmic sabbat
[00:12:01] around the decision of the American president,
[00:12:04] let's generally think about ourselves, first of all, for us
[00:12:08] such a development would be positive, well, firstly, as an example
[00:12:11] of lifting sanctions, secondly, as an opportunity to enter
[00:12:15] the foreign market with our goods, in a word, pure, one might
[00:12:19] say, positive, the other thing is that there is an agreement reached during
[00:12:22] a telephone conversation and there is its implementation, here,
[00:12:26] of course, the distance is quite large, and as we know, anything can happen in
[00:12:30] the near future, because there, you know, they say the devil is in
[00:12:33] the details, there is not one devil sitting in these very
[00:12:37] details, well, that same law, now it needs to be somehow
[00:12:40] bypassed, I read somewhere
[00:12:43] or heard that, and Besen said that yes, the old
[00:12:47] law, this law is almost from 1922,
[00:12:51] a century ago, which, probably, existed, which no one...
[00:12:55] followed all these years and decades, because it was simply
[00:12:58] forgotten, but when it's needed, it's pulled out of the bag, as
[00:13:01] they say, to add to the arguments, well,
[00:13:04] and the goods need to be shipped,
[00:13:07] these very ships need to be licensed,
[00:13:11] each of them
[00:13:14] needs to have the corresponding procedures processed,
[00:13:17] insurance and so on, there is quite a lot of documentation, for
[00:13:21] each position these very sanctions need to be lifted,
[00:13:26] which, as you know, well, they are simply... they are very, I would say,
[00:13:29] Jesuitically formulated, you cannot lift them, remember the infamous
[00:13:33] Jackson-Vanik Act, remember, you can
[00:13:36] adopt it, but then you cannot lift it, because there is
[00:13:39] a decision, political decisions of two kinds, there is an executive order, as
[00:13:42] it is called, that is, a presidential decree, he
[00:13:45] adopted it as a regulatory act with this decree, he can also
[00:13:48] repeal it, but there, as lovers of the game of
[00:13:51] Preference say, it is all done through Congress.
[00:14:25] political dynamics, of course, which are reflected in stock
[00:14:29] quotes, in all these futures, and
[00:14:32] of course, they have such a, I would say,
[00:14:35] downward influence, it has already, this
[00:14:39] agreement, it has already played a positive
[00:14:42] role in this regard, but let's see how events unfold, indeed,
[00:14:46] the intrigue, the intrigue has spun
[00:14:49] to the limit, one might say, when
[00:14:51] I heard and watched all these...
[00:14:56] things, I of course thought of you, Korin Georgievich, and about my
[00:14:59] favorite topic, life as judo,
[00:15:03] what are your impressions of what is happening,
[00:15:06] well, I don't appear here often now, I'm filming
[00:15:10] a movie, finishing filming called
[00:15:13] Joseph Stalin, moment of truth, so,
[00:15:16] moment of truth, many consider this to be the title of the wonderful novel
[00:15:20] by Bogomolov, so it has a second title, but in general, moment of truth
[00:15:23] is a term that came from Spain, that Bogomolov, whom
[00:15:27] we know and love, yes, yes, yes, that Bogomolov, whom we know
[00:15:31] and love very, very much, indeed, in short, many have
[00:15:34] forgotten this term, it came from Spain, from Corrida.
[00:16:07] coincidence in all these, as they say,
[00:16:10] again the same story, in
[00:16:14] general, if to speak briefly,
[00:16:17] all of Europe was united
[00:16:21] by Hitler, some to a greater
[00:16:24] extent, some to a lesser extent, but in principle, all of Europe
[00:16:28] fought with the Soviet Union, including, by the way,
[00:16:31] Poles, including, by the way, Poles, who, as they say,
[00:16:35] today this is, well, the difference consists in
[00:16:38] the fact that the Soviet Union practically
[00:16:42] had no allies at all, practically
[00:16:45] none at all, they, as they say, appeared after all
[00:16:48] due to necessity, but
[00:16:51] already in the process of the war, in general, of course, because
[00:16:55] Asia then was
[00:16:56] absolutely
[00:16:59] devastated, and no possibilities, today there are still
[00:17:03] friendly countries in Asia that are to us, but I mean that...
[00:17:08] this is of course amazing, how history makes this circle
[00:17:11] repeat, and the most important thing,
[00:17:15] in general, what I
[00:17:17] why? Well, because they believe that
[00:17:21] Russia, like the Soviet Union, by the way, in the late
[00:17:24] thirties, here, Stalin
[00:17:27] had, he had a message, there was such
[00:17:31] an agent, a Corsican, a very good
[00:17:33] agent, this agent reported to Stalin.
[00:17:37] He sent him this, that the German General Staff
[00:17:40] gave the Soviet Union and the Red Army 8
[00:17:44] days, in 8 days they were supposed to
[00:17:46] completely defeat them, they thought they could defeat the Red
[00:17:49] Army within 25 days and reach the Urals, that was
[00:17:53] the situation, that is, it was completely different and Stalin, of course, understood
[00:17:57] that the problems of the Red Army, which are very
[00:18:01] serious, and this and this and this and this all
[00:18:04] and all...
[00:18:37] I see now, they believe, we all the time, I hear
[00:18:41] these, why are they, why are they behaving like
[00:18:43] that, because they believe that
[00:18:47] Russia is greatly weakened, and this, this is true, this is true,
[00:18:50] we must look the truth in the eye, compared to the Soviet Union,
[00:18:54] with the period, so to speak, from forty-five to
[00:18:58] seventy-five, eighty, when it was the peak
[00:19:01] of our country's power, of course, we became weaker
[00:19:05] due to, due to again those from...
[00:19:37] any leader, Trump or not Trump, well, they won't
[00:19:40] assist us in ending this war, it's not
[00:19:44] in their interests, it's absolutely not in their
[00:19:47] interests, that all these games are going on, but why
[00:19:51] is it not in their interests, for example, in their struggle with
[00:19:54] China in the long term, it would seem
[00:19:57] that normal relations with Russia would be a plus, in their fight against
[00:20:01] Iran, no, no, they, they perfectly understand, and I
[00:20:04] think that all of them, the entire political.
[00:20:37] and will support China, surely any political
[00:20:41] regime in Russia will definitely support China to a greater or lesser
[00:20:45] extent, just as China supports Russia, from this
[00:20:48] point of view. If I were part of the American
[00:20:51] establishment, I would say, finish off this
[00:20:54] country, finish it off, don't finish it off to a state of complete
[00:20:58] collapse, because they have nuclear weapons, but finish it off,
[00:21:02] make it our client, of course, it's beneficial
[00:21:05] for them, so I don't see any possibility
[00:21:08] that there will be any political force in America,
[00:21:11] unfortunately, unfortunately, that would
[00:21:15] contribute to stopping this, this is the only thing we
[00:21:18] should rely on, it's... just ourselves to find ways
[00:21:22] to inflict such damage, I'm not talking
[00:21:26] about nuclear war, by the way, no, not necessarily, but
[00:21:29] to inflict such damage that would be significant for them
[00:21:32] and that would force them
[00:21:35] to retreat, they will never retreat completely, they will always
[00:21:39] strive for this, as they have been striving for this for 200
[00:21:42] years, but at least for some period to retreat so
[00:21:46] that we can deal with our own affairs,
[00:21:50] I absolutely agree with what you said about
[00:21:53] damage,
[00:21:55] and the new magazine Politika, in which I am currently
[00:21:58] working, in the next issue is going
[00:22:01] to publish a large article, precisely on
[00:22:04] how, if necessary, we can inflict
[00:22:08] damage on them, I mean the collective West, be it
[00:22:12] military damage, be it economic, be it
[00:22:15] political, but I can tell you one thing about...
[00:22:19] сказать одно на...
[00:22:50] there were many people who considered
[00:22:53] it necessary to negotiate with the Soviet Union
[00:22:57] and none of them
[00:23:00] were friends of the Soviet Union, let alone Soviet
[00:23:03] communism, but many of them had
[00:23:06] the feeling that the Soviet Union could
[00:23:09] be not only a very important, but often
[00:23:12] a useful partner on the world stage, for the last
[00:23:16] 30 years, you are absolutely right, there appeared.
[00:23:50] I agree with what Iran Georgievich says, but here I would
[00:23:53] say that dreaming is not harmful, of course, but
[00:23:57] still,
[00:23:59] if the bet is only on Ukraine exhausting us,
[00:24:02] that's no, they still have
[00:24:05] very limited resources compared to us, what
[00:24:08] we say, that the collective West stands behind them, yes,
[00:24:12] it stands, but what does it stand for, it stands with money,
[00:24:16] it stands, with supplies...
[00:24:27] Yes, this causes us inconvenience, yes, it distracts, forces us to make additional efforts,
[00:24:30] but a decisive turning point, and moreover, so to speak, to exhaust
[00:24:34] us completely, moreover to dismember, destroy, this will not
[00:24:38] succeed, for this their
[00:24:41] direct, so to speak, intervention in this
[00:24:45] conflict with their armed forces is needed, and this,
[00:24:48] naturally, is fraught with consequences,
[00:25:50] for the defeat of large infrastructure
[00:25:53] targets on the sea coast, well, there are
[00:25:57] tasks that in America
[00:26:00] include not...
[00:26:18] well, we never, our leadership is absolutely right, we never emphasize that these are large cities, we talk about large infrastructure facilities, primarily military bases, all military bases, especially naval bases, naturally,
[00:26:21] yes, air bases, not to mention
[00:26:24] large cities, all of them are located either on the western or on
[00:26:28] the eastern coast, therefore, taking into account
[00:26:31] the fact that this is...
[00:27:02] its goals, well, what about our Arctic Ocean
[00:27:06] coast? No, St. Petersburg is not on
[00:27:10] the ocean coast, to use it
[00:27:13] you need not just to say
[00:27:16] the Finnish Gulf,
[00:27:19] there into a nuclear submarine,
[00:27:22] no, this is not, this is not an option, you need,
[00:27:26] you need oceans, and the Pacific coast, where we have
[00:27:30] Vladivostok and Vilyuchinsk, the base of our... Pacific fleet,
[00:27:33] that's it, so, well, plus we have nuclear
[00:27:37] weapons, and I am absolutely
[00:27:40] convinced, well, first of all, I
[00:27:43] have always said, say and will say, that
[00:27:47] there will be no limited nuclear war and cannot be,
[00:27:50] if the Americans interfere with the Europeans, yes, maybe,
[00:27:54] with the participation of the Americans - it's a global catastrophe, it's
[00:27:57] mutual destruction, so you are absolutely right, but
[00:28:01] you will probably agree?
[00:29:32] convince themselves that they can afford to,
[00:29:36] even without the Americans, fully support
[00:29:39] Ukraine, and not expect any serious
[00:29:42] trouble from it. You know what it means to support
[00:29:45] Ukraine? Now there are talks that Trump
[00:29:49] there, well, actually, not him personally, but his representatives, even
[00:29:53] now information has emerged that it was an official,
[00:29:57] so to speak, warning from the State Department
[00:29:59] and the Pentagon, that there is. if Ukraine continues
[00:30:02] to strike our oil refineries, then they
[00:30:05] will stop providing them with intelligence
[00:30:09] information and block
[00:30:11] this program,
[00:30:14] that is, the supply of American
[00:30:16] weapons for the money of Europeans, if
[00:30:20] the Americans, well, reconnaissance
[00:30:23] guidance, if the Americans stop
[00:30:26] providing, so to speak, information, coordinates
[00:30:30] for missile guidance, this is very
[00:30:33] sensitive for Ukraine, if Musk turns off Starlink, this will be another
[00:30:36] blow, as for weapons, the Europeans simply
[00:30:40] do not have the capacity to compensate for what the Americans are giving,
[00:30:44] therefore, without without the Americans,
[00:30:48] the Europeans, for the time being, at least, well, they have plans, they
[00:30:51] have money, about 900 billion, they allocate
[00:30:55] for this for the next 3-4 years, if
[00:30:58] they manage to achieve. autonomy in
[00:31:03] their, so to speak, combat potential, then it's another
[00:31:07] matter, at the moment, no, that is, in other
[00:31:10] words, we return to where we started.
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[00:37:35] Lieutenant Colonel Ivan Komarov, Deputy Commander
[00:37:38] of the Separate Guards 810 Marine Brigade, you have
[00:37:42] repeatedly said that you are a healer of human souls.
[00:37:45] Brother, we all embarked on the path of
[00:37:48] a warrior. How much time in battle does
[00:37:52] it take for a person to become a warrior from
[00:37:55] just a soldier? Then in a week, I personally was surrounded three times,
[00:37:59] you have to be very confident that you will go with the call sign truth,
[00:38:02] because I will push through, I love truth, I love justice,
[00:38:06] islands, these Dnieper islands, we enter
[00:38:09] straight away, it simply begins
[00:38:12] to be hell and I fall and assume
[00:38:15] I'm probably dying, it's just like in a movie, but it's real life,
[00:38:19] we completed the task, took eight islands, the entire unit was
[00:38:23] awarded state awards, this is our people who are the heroes, our.
[00:38:50] naturally play a role in shaping Russian policy
[00:38:54] regarding China, here
[00:38:57] I... want to get your opinion on what
[00:39:00] China's Foreign Ministry said regarding the crisis in
[00:39:03] Ukraine. Let's
[00:39:05] listen.
[00:39:09] The Ukrainian crisis must not be allowed to get out of control as a result of further
[00:39:12] escalation. All interested parties and the international community must
[00:39:16] jointly seek a political solution. We hope that the interested parties
[00:39:20] will continue to maintain contacts, demonstrate political will,
[00:39:23] consistently develop consensus and work together to achieve everything.
[00:39:59] Do we have reason to worry? You
[00:40:01] know, I honestly don't see any
[00:40:05] such reasons, again, judge him by his deeds, not
[00:40:08] by his words. As for words, I don't quite agree with
[00:40:12] you, Dmitry, this is just a statement
[00:40:16] by the Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN
[00:40:19] Security Council. Let's not forget, the UN is
[00:40:22] an intergovernmental organization, everything that is said there is
[00:40:25] not a product, as they say.
[00:41:27] have been repeatedly stated, they refer to
[00:41:30] the conversation between our president and the Indian president at
[00:41:34] one of the last recent summits, which
[00:41:37] generally were, well, let's say, in abundance, in the autumn of this year, and
[00:41:41] there will be more, I will talk about it now, and as for
[00:41:45] China, well, there was this statement
[00:41:48] that we read, but there was also a statement
[00:41:52] by Wang Yi, the Foreign Minister, a member of the Politburo and curator
[00:41:55] of the entire foreign policy of China, who at the Munich
[00:41:59] Conference, in which, as is known, we have not participated
[00:42:02] for a long time, directly said that
[00:42:05] China is not interested in Russia's defeat, interpret that
[00:42:08] however you want. Dear Western
[00:42:11] partners, with whom he actually, how do you understand this? And I understand it this way, that
[00:42:15] China really sees the obvious, that if, as they say,
[00:42:19] God forbid, something happens to us, then China will be left alone,
[00:42:23] now, no matter what you say, this
[00:42:26] Chinese formula of "back to back", "spine to spine", it
[00:42:29] has a place. Now,
[00:42:32] perhaps about the main thing: China is absorbed in its
[00:42:36] problems, both internal and external.
[00:42:40] Internal problems are the state of the economy, the state
[00:42:43] of society. In the near future, the fifth plenum of the
[00:42:46] CPC Central Committee will be held in China, the penultimate one before the party
[00:42:50] congress, which will be next year, there will be a sixth plenum, usually
[00:42:53] there are six plenums between two congresses, so now on the agenda,
[00:42:57] as far as I understand, is the fifth, which should adopt
[00:43:00] quite serious decisions concerning
[00:43:03] all internal matters, the entire nature of the country's
[00:43:07] internal development, including issues...
[00:43:48] China will still emerge, but at the same time it faces serious problems, here
[00:43:52] we touch upon the external
[00:43:53] sphere,
[00:43:56] November 18-19
[00:43:59] will see the APEC summit of Asia-Pacific Economic
[00:44:03] Cooperation, where both Trump and
[00:44:06] Putin will arrive, the intrigue is quite serious.
[00:44:11] Besides this trilateral possible
[00:44:13] meeting, which has attracted universal attention, there will be quite
[00:44:17] a lot of issues on the agenda at APEC, including Chinese-American ones,
[00:44:20] Trump's visit in May with all these courtesies,
[00:44:24] Xi Jinping's visit
[00:44:28] to very
[00:44:31] recently, first Trump, then
[00:44:34] Xi Jinping to the United States, with all
[00:44:38] protocol details. Nevertheless, the main problem was not solved,
[00:44:41] so the dialogue will continue, and this is a vital issue for China. What is
[00:44:45] the main problem? The main problem is still to achieve normalization of trade
[00:44:49] relations, to somehow verify, to establish some rules to work within, because
[00:44:52] for now there are no such rules, for now China is taking, well,
[00:44:56] rather by force, that is, by promoting those areas in which it
[00:45:00] is strong, the same robots, for example, or electric vehicles, that's
[00:45:04] it, that's what's on the surface, and there are a whole range of other goods where
[00:45:07] China generally really uses its own. property. China
[00:45:10] is very active in the field of artificial intelligence, or as they
[00:45:14] say, super intelligence.
[00:45:17] China
[00:45:20] is trying to somehow divide Americans and
[00:45:23] Europeans. He believes that with Americans they still have what the Chinese
[00:45:27] call a struggle of "point against point". With
[00:45:30] Europeans, one can work, and so they are working. Very serious
[00:45:34] negotiations with Europeans regarding trade matters just ended, but
[00:45:38] there too, not everything is smooth, because
[00:45:40] the huge, huge Chinese positive trade balance, as in trade
[00:45:44] with the USA, makes Europeans very
[00:45:47] has felt its strength, both with Americans through
[00:45:49] rare earth elements, and with Europe. Europe is
[00:45:52] still weaker than the United States as a trade
[00:45:56] opponent, so just recently,
[00:46:00] the other day, I read a report that China
[00:46:03] opened an anti-dumping investigation against
[00:46:06] Europeans. I honestly don't recall such a thing. This is exactly...
[00:46:10] using the enemy's own weapon. Usually, these anti-dumping
[00:46:13] measures are pursued through the World Trade Organization by China's
[00:46:17] Western partners. In short, China is concentrated on
[00:46:20] solving these issues, hoping,
[00:46:24] hoping that its efforts will still lead to a certain
[00:46:27] improvement of the overall situation, and the statement
[00:46:30] of Comrade Sun in the Security Council is to a certain extent a reflection
[00:46:34] of this hope. China is playing on this, not on escalation,
[00:46:38] but on what is called.
[00:46:42] Let's listen to what is happening in trade
[00:46:46] relations between China and Europe, in particular,
[00:46:50] what France and Germany are doing against China, let's
[00:46:53] listen. Germany and France jointly advocate for the creation
[00:46:57] of new protection instruments against unfair trade practices of other
[00:47:00] states. The systematic application of methods that distort market
[00:47:03] conditions threatens competition for European companies and increases dependence
[00:47:07] on external suppliers. This is stated in a letter from the head of the German government, Friedrich
[00:47:11] Merz, and French President Emmanuel Macron, to the President of the European Commission,
[00:47:14] Ursula von der Leyen. According to the authors of the letter, existing protection
[00:47:18] instruments are no longer sufficient. The leaders propose to create two new
[00:47:21] mechanisms. The first should promote diversification of supplies and prevent
[00:47:25] excessive dependence of companies on suppliers from individual countries.
[00:47:28] The second will allow for the accelerated exclusion of other states from
[00:47:31] the European single market. The EU has a huge trade deficit with
[00:47:35] to protect its industry from Chinese
[00:47:38] competition. And this is how China responds to this.
[00:47:42] The production and logistics chains of China and the European Union are deeply intertwined
[00:47:46] and interconnected, and trade and economic relations between the countries are essentially
[00:47:49] mutually beneficial. We hope that the European side
[00:47:53] will meet China halfway and resolve mutual issues through dialogue and consultations.
[00:47:56] Joint efforts will ensure the stability and uninterrupted flow of global chains, which will
[00:48:00] promote the healthy and stable development of trade and economic relations between China
[00:48:04] and the European Union. How do you
[00:48:07] evaluate this? Sounds serious, doesn't it? You
[00:48:10] know, it certainly sounds serious, but I don't evaluate it at all,
[00:48:14] I, well, due to my position, let's say, for
[00:48:17] many years, if not decades, I've heard
[00:48:21] roughly this phraseology.
[00:48:52] there it will all be put away in a long box, in a
[00:48:55] word, it's rather such, you know, an
[00:48:58] exchange of statements, everything is decided
[00:49:02] quietly in negotiations, and there, unfortunately, alas,
[00:49:05] unfortunately, because the normalization of trade
[00:49:09] relations would contribute to
[00:49:12] the recovery of the entire global economy, there are very large figures,
[00:49:16] China's trade with the European Union is somewhere around
[00:49:19] 1 trillion dollars, this is a very large figure. With the United
[00:49:23] States, it fell to somewhere around 500 something billion, but it's still
[00:49:27] about twice as much as, say, our trade with
[00:49:30] China, but we have a surplus in our favor,
[00:49:34] thanks, of course, first of all, to energy carriers. With the United
[00:49:38] States and Europe, it's 300
[00:49:40] billion, 400 billion, that's the order of magnitude by which the
[00:49:44] positive balance in favor of China is measured. Well, yes, they will
[00:49:48] refuse to supply some goods from China, but where will they get them? There aren't
[00:49:51] many options.
[00:50:22] understand that in China, apparently, a serious internal struggle
[00:50:26] is taking place. There are many Westerners in China, much
[00:50:30] more than in Russia, who, as
[00:50:32] they say, who believe that China
[00:50:36] needs to move away from Russia. This struggle is
[00:50:39] going on in China. There is a part in China, I would simply call it
[00:50:42] Eurasian, because I have met people who were
[00:50:46] admirers of Lev Gumilyov, precisely
[00:50:49] those who, as it were, considered China as part of Eurasia.
[00:50:52] Russia, that is, such ideas are also present, so to speak, plus
[00:50:56] Soviet ideas, of course, so,
[00:50:58] I think that we need to at least
[00:51:02] understand that this struggle is taking place
[00:51:05] in China,
[00:51:08] and, in general, it is, of course, desirable for us that in this struggle
[00:51:11] the supporters of a strong alliance with the Russian
[00:51:15] Federation, with Russia, win. We probably
[00:51:18] need to somehow prove to China in this sense that we are more needed
[00:51:22] than the West. We should not forget that in the Middle Ages, China
[00:51:26] was, by the way, in the same situation. China was
[00:51:29] the workshop of the world. China was the workshop of the world. All
[00:51:32] goods to Europe came from China,
[00:51:35] porcelain, silk. China bought nothing
[00:51:38] except one thing,
[00:51:40] silver, because the monetary
[00:51:44] unit in China was silver. It was precisely the
[00:51:47] silver, when Western supplies of silver stopped, that
[00:51:50] became the cause of China's decline, which ultimately
[00:51:54] led to civil wars and, as
[00:51:57] is known, practically to China's colonial state.
[00:52:01] But in this sense, so to speak, we also need...
[00:54:35] generally speaking, I believe we should be satisfied and have
[00:54:38] the right to be proud that we have such relations
[00:54:42] as we have,
[00:54:44] and simply not to expect that China will suddenly
[00:54:48] look at the world through our
[00:54:51] glasses and perceive
[00:54:55] things as we perceive them. If we
[00:54:58] expect that, then I think there would be disappointment.
[00:55:01] We're going to a commercial break, we'll be back in a few minutes, and
[00:55:05] General Buzhinsky will add to this
[00:55:07] topic, and then tell us about the war in the Persian
[00:55:11] Gulf.
[00:55:20] Revelations of American congressmen about Donald Trump's
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[01:01:08] to add, of course, trade and economic relations,
[01:01:12] there, uh, China is
[01:01:15] the world's factory, no doubt.
[01:01:17] But there's another aspect, of course, it's the military
[01:01:21] aspect. In principle, now, after we
[01:01:25] started, well, about 10 years ago with
[01:01:28] China, cooperation, military-technical
[01:01:31] cooperation, there's the creation of a missile
[01:01:33] attack warning system, which China didn't have, we
[01:01:37] started space cooperation, we are a strategic
[01:01:40] rear for China, just as they are a strategic
[01:01:43] rear for us,
[01:01:48] is very picturesque, but if you reason from a military
[01:01:51] point of view, we complement each other very
[01:01:55] well, an attack
[01:01:57] through the northern routes, through the North Pole or from
[01:02:01] the south, we cover
[01:02:05] each other, so this
[01:02:08] aspect should also not be
[01:02:11] disregarded, our military,
[01:02:14] military-technical cooperation, if you look at the plans... at the events
[01:02:18] there, joint patrolling - in
[01:02:20] the air and at sea, it becomes more and more intensive
[01:02:24] and large-scale every year, so I think that
[01:02:28] nevertheless - our relations with China
[01:02:31] will deepen.
[01:02:34] Now, regarding the Middle
[01:02:37] East. You know, despite the fact
[01:02:40] that the Americans seem to have
[01:02:44] reduced their military activity,
[01:02:47] Trump even said that he would not
[01:02:50] take any action before the elections, but nevertheless,
[01:02:54] but then he said, "unless I decide otherwise, unless I
[01:02:57] decide otherwise." Nevertheless, the grouping. They are strengthening there, the third
[01:03:01] aircraft carrier group has already
[01:03:04] arrived, that is, there are not enough
[01:03:08] forces for a ground invasion, but if
[01:03:12] Trump suddenly decides to indeed launch
[01:03:15] missile and bomb strikes, he can
[01:03:18] do it, but
[01:03:21] despite the fact that the Americans are behaving, so to speak, more or
[01:03:25] less calmly, that is, they are not in the hot
[01:03:28] phase of armed
[01:04:00] to say, into the open ocean, into the Arabian Sea and so on, further into the Indian
[01:04:03] Ocean, and they were struck, well, the Iranians said
[01:04:07] that they hit a mine, but nevertheless,
[01:04:09] despite the fact that Trump says that we
[01:04:12] control
[01:04:14] контролируем
[01:04:18] the Strait of Hormuz, maybe they do control it, but nevertheless
[01:04:21] I think that Iran actually controls it, moreover,
[01:04:25] a new front has now emerged, which is the Houthis,
[01:04:29] it's... the Houthis and their war with Saudi Arabia,
[01:04:33] the strikes that were recently carried out
[01:04:35] on the airport in Saudi
[01:04:39] Arabia, on the oil pipeline
[01:04:42] that goes to the Red
[01:04:45] Sea for the export of Saudi
[01:04:49] oil, all this significantly exacerbates
[01:04:53] the situation, so oil is not
[01:04:56] rushing to fall in price, it's still there at
[01:05:00] 100 dollars, it's still there despite all Trump's assurances,
[01:05:04] what will happen next, I think,
[01:05:07] that Trump, the Americans simply
[01:05:10] really find themselves in a deadlock now, they
[01:05:13] simply don't have a good option to get out of this
[01:05:16] conflict with saving face for them yet,
[01:05:19] because, I repeat, to start any
[01:05:23] ground operations is absolutely reckless,
[01:05:26] they will get bogged down there for decades.
[01:05:30] To count on the collapse of the regime in
[01:05:34] Iran, I also think,
[01:05:37] is still unlikely.
[01:05:39] So
[01:05:42] how to really unblock
[01:05:45] the Strait of Hormuz and
[01:05:47] establish, so to speak, a more or less
[01:05:50] order in the Bab al-Mandeb Strait
[01:05:54] with the export of oil to the Red Sea, that is, of course,
[01:05:57] a task, as they say, with an asterisk.
[01:06:04] is in a difficult position here. On the one
[01:06:07] hand, we are clearly emotionally on
[01:06:10] Iran's side, I'm not afraid to say that I am very strongly
[01:06:14] emotionally on Iran's side.
[01:06:18] On the other hand, we have growing
[01:06:22] relations, at least diplomatically, with the United
[01:06:25] States. How do we find the
[01:06:29] right balance
[01:06:30] in this situation?
[01:06:33] Well, you know, this is a classic
[01:06:36] diplomatic task. We just need to
[01:06:40] act in accordance with our interests, well,
[01:06:43] and take into account our capabilities. After all, in that very phone conversation where
[01:06:47] that diesel fuel was discussed,
[01:06:51] let's not forget, Iran was also mentioned, and
[01:06:54] before leaving Avaza, from
[01:06:58] Turkmenistan, our president had
[01:07:02] a conversation with the president of Iran, and I
[01:07:04] understand he conveyed certain conclusions and, as
[01:07:08] was said, considerations regarding
[01:07:10] the possibility of reaching some kind of
[01:07:14] exchange, some kind of agreement, or at least movement towards this
[01:07:17] agreement. He reminded once again about our initiative concerning
[01:07:21] nuclear weapons. For now, it is not accepted, Iran primarily
[01:07:24] does not perceive it, but nevertheless, it lies on...
[01:07:28] speaking, relations with the Americans,
[01:07:42] yes, this is us, in general, we do not hide our, let's
[01:07:46] say, attitude towards Iran,
[01:07:49] our ties with Iran,
[01:07:52] our solidarity with the Iranian
[01:07:55] position, we express corresponding theses in the UN, in
[01:07:59] the UN Security Council, our Foreign Ministry representatives constantly
[01:08:02] voice this, and Iran is grateful to us for this, and I
[01:08:06] honestly have never seen any attempts to deviate, that's the first thing,
[01:08:09] second, the United States also. I don't recall them
[01:08:13] making any claims about our relations with Iran, moreover, when
[01:08:17] someone tried to accuse Russia of supplying something, Trump himself
[01:08:21] once said, remember, that we have no grounds and
[01:08:24] no information that Russia is helping
[01:08:28] Iran. Iran, for its part, also said that
[01:08:31] we don't need anything in this regard, we can handle everything
[01:08:34] ourselves. In short, everything here is developing according to its own tracks,
[01:08:38] according to its own laws and logic, and in no way interfering with each other...