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[00:03:10] Good morning, the news channel on the first channel begins live broadcast, this is the program "Time Will Tell", in the studio Ruslana Stashko, Olesya
[00:03:13] Loseva, well, a political
[00:03:17] deadlock in Warsaw, Poland found itself at the epicenter
[00:03:20] of a sharp political crisis, which many now consider
[00:03:24] a state coup, over the weekend in
[00:03:27] Warsaw there were large-scale clashes.
[00:04:46] On Friday evening, the president of the court and his deputy were suspended from duty.
[00:04:49] Nawrocki ordered the plane to turn around and return to
[00:04:53] Poland to intervene in the court situation. Here he is pushing through
[00:04:56] a police cordon and entering the courthouse. Nawrocki
[00:05:00] supports the suspended judges, he calls it a violation
[00:05:03] of the constitutional order in Poland, and his government calls it
[00:05:07] an illegal coup, but Tusk believes that the suspension
[00:05:10] of judges is the only way to restore
[00:05:12] independence.
[00:05:16] Here we have a conservative president who, I would say, is not
[00:05:20] on good terms with the prime minister, who advocates for closer ties with the European
[00:05:24] Union. Apparently, the struggle is between the left and
[00:05:27] the right, and also between those who believe that closer ties with the European
[00:05:31] Union are the main priority and those who believe that
[00:05:34] Poland should have more independence in making its own
[00:05:38] laws. Now the situation is at a deadlock: police and armed forces
[00:05:41] are guarding the court so that no one gets inside, but there is real chaos there,
[00:05:45] it is unclear how this situation will end for
[00:05:48] Tusk.
[00:05:52] Well, opinions on how to correctly call everything that is happening
[00:05:56] now in Poland are divided. Donald Tusk - this is
[00:05:59] one country - declares that now in Warsaw there has been a triumph
[00:06:03] of justice.
[00:06:05] Restoring the rule of law is our duty. After many
[00:06:09] years of lawlessness by the Law and Justice party, this is a complex,
[00:06:13] sometimes painful process requiring decisive action, there is no
[00:06:16] other way. But Nawrocki's supporters,
[00:06:19] and Nawrocki himself, on the contrary, declared everything
[00:06:22] that is happening to be lawlessness and demanded an immediate withdrawal
[00:06:26] from the dictate of Brussels. Here's what the
[00:06:29] leader of the Confederation of the Polish
[00:06:32] Crown party, Grzegorz Braun, said.
[00:06:35] A genuine constitutional reset will require reliance on
[00:06:39] the foundation of Poland's independence, and that means that... stop
[00:06:43] recognizing and establishing the dictate of entities outside of Poland,
[00:06:46] such as the European Union or the Eurokolkhoz, their
[00:06:49] jurisdiction, their usurpation of power over Poles, a genuine
[00:06:53] constitutional reset is Polexit, or
[00:06:56] to put it more simply, get out of
[00:06:59] Poland. Another supporter of the Polish president, former
[00:07:02] Polish prime minister Jarosław Kaczyński, considers everything
[00:07:05] that is happening to be nothing short of a state
[00:07:07] coup.
[00:07:10] Ladies and gentlemen, what is happening.
[00:09:42] surrender, it means he already
[00:09:45] knows that he has no possibility, because if he
[00:09:49] had taken some party into the coalition, which now
[00:09:52] rules together with Tusk, he would
[00:09:55] have had to hold, well, new elections, simply,
[00:09:58] yes, but he doesn't have such an opportunity, so
[00:10:02] I think that well, in the
[00:10:05] end, Tusk will rule
[00:10:08] the constitutional court, but not the Polish people.
[00:10:55] There was a period when the Kaczyński brothers, Lech and Jarosław, Lech and Jarosław,
[00:10:59] were president and prime minister, then they had full consensus, but then they went to
[00:11:03] Washington to get instructions on how to govern Poland,
[00:11:06] so forgive me,
[00:11:09] Polish Polish democracy is very peculiar, what
[00:11:13] is happening in Poland, well, what is happening in Poland, Brussels
[00:11:17] is starting to lose control over the national model
[00:11:21] of the Polish economy, even over Poles, no, that's not
[00:11:24] it. Brussels has a clear counterparty, Donald
[00:11:27] Tusk, who, in fact, at a signal from Brussels, decided
[00:11:31] to create this situation in order to bend the national
[00:11:35] model, the national president. I'm not saying that the national president is
[00:11:39] great for Poland and so on, there are nuances there, but
[00:11:42] nevertheless, what is happening now is an attempt to seize
[00:11:46] power within the Polish elite, with the aim, with the
[00:11:49] sole aim, of selling their loyalty to
[00:11:52] Brussels at a higher price, because all this comes down
[00:11:56] to one thing: will Poland continue to help Ukraine, or will it
[00:12:00] not? If it does, then at a higher price than
[00:12:01] now,
[00:12:04] and if it helps Ukraine, then the money for Poland will be less, if they
[00:12:08] refuse, then less money will be allocated, because they will find other ways, Rzeszów is not
[00:12:11] the only one, it's convenient, yes, but nevertheless, Poland
[00:12:15] actually really wants to raise the price of its aid
[00:12:19] to Ukraine now, because the general trend in European
[00:12:22] capitals is to do this.
[00:13:26] There is a crisis in the Polish democratic system, it is embedded in
[00:13:29] the constitution, these institutions themselves, the constitutional court, its
[00:13:32] judges are elected by a majority of parliament, and this majority also elects
[00:13:36] the government, of course, when a new government comes to power, it tries to get rid of
[00:13:39] those judges who were appointed by the previous majority, which is generally quite
[00:13:43] natural, when it turns out
[00:13:46] that the president is a representative of that very past majority, then he has the opportunity
[00:13:50] not to swear in new judges, right, so this contradiction is already embedded in the
[00:13:54] constitution itself.
[00:15:25] Polish democracy from representatives of authoritarian authoritarian
[00:15:29] forces,
[00:15:31] should we expect a revolution or not? Firstly, it's not all the same, it's not
[00:15:35] all the same who wins, because ...
[00:16:37] they don't choose the right candidate. The elite turns to judges,
[00:16:41] special services, or the financial resources of the European Union, and calls
[00:16:44] what is happening the protection of democracy. Washington and Brussels
[00:16:48] for years welcomed Polish nationalism, as long as it was
[00:16:51] directed against Moscow. Poland's hostile attitude towards Russia was a
[00:16:54] valuable resource for the alliance, but as soon as that same
[00:16:58] nationalism is directed against Brussels, it suddenly turns into a threat to
[00:17:01] democracy, to combat which riot police are required.
[00:17:05] said, there are some nuances there?
[00:17:07] The nuance is that the process
[00:17:11] is actually much bigger, my colleagues talked about it, but I'll just
[00:17:14] formulate it: the federalization of Europe is underway, that is,
[00:17:18] the transformation of Europe into the Fourth Reich, and accordingly, in this
[00:17:21] case, a tough purge of all those forces
[00:17:25] that advocate for any preservation of, well, what is called
[00:17:28] statehood, is necessary, and accordingly nationally oriented elites are not needed
[00:17:32] by Brussels now, of course, we see how they are being purged, because they are being
[00:17:36] put forward and supported.
[00:18:07] The fact that for many years Poland was a showcase of the European Union, because no one
[00:18:11] received as much money from the European Union, from Europe, as
[00:18:15] Poland, which was one of the first countries that was, so to speak,
[00:18:18] accepted in the West, and today Europe now demands
[00:18:21] absolute, complete, so to speak, obedience and willingness
[00:18:25] to comply, but inside there is such a conflict, well, Tusk
[00:18:29] absolutely correctly, as Vladislav Vladislavovich noted, without thinking, he will send
[00:18:32] Poles to fight, if Brussels
[00:18:36] finally pushes Poland completely,
[00:18:39] that's why, he found an explanation for everything, he said that in all these protests,
[00:18:43] in these internal political squabbles, the
[00:18:46] Russians are to blame.
[00:18:49] The main difference between a rule of law state and jungle law
[00:18:52] is that in the first case, righteousness is not determined by brute
[00:18:56] force or rudeness. For many years, there have been organizations
[00:18:59] and politicians in Poland who want to destroy democracy and the
[00:19:03] rule of law, and it is no coincidence that they find
[00:19:05] support in the world among.
[00:19:37] I strongly disagree with the labeling of what
[00:19:41] is democracy and what is not democracy, because when judges pass power by
[00:19:45] inheritance, that is far from democracy, when judges are elected
[00:19:48] democratically by parliament, that is closer to democracy for me, they lived
[00:19:52] in this crisis for 10 years,
[00:19:55] of course, the first thing Tusk did was change all the editors-in-chief, you know, so that they
[00:19:59] cleared the field for a different situation,
[00:20:03] and the Speaker of the Sejm, who takes the oath of judges in his office,
[00:20:06] that's for sure.
[00:20:37] he will be able to object, he will be able to declare a state of emergency and the army will
[00:20:41] obey him, the Polish
[00:20:44] police will obey Tusk, who will the people support,
[00:20:48] the people don't like chaos, to be honest.
[00:21:41] And Poles are dealing with the court not because they like someone or dislike someone,
[00:21:45] it's a matter of Polish self-identity, either
[00:21:48] we surrender and become like
[00:21:50] Paris, like Berlin, like Hamburg, like Frankfurt tonight, like
[00:21:53] Milan, like Amsterdam, where there are no white people, where migrants
[00:21:57] are doing god knows what on the streets, rioting, or is Poland still
[00:22:00] a Christian country with normal values? Yes, they are our enemies, but we have,
[00:22:04] by the way, a hybrid peace with them, they go to church, they respect their
[00:22:07] parents, they believe that husband and wife is a normal family,
[00:22:11] you understand, therefore identity in Europe, that's
[00:22:14] what Brussels is destroying, Poles are the
[00:22:18] biggest protest.
[00:22:50] They supported and blessed their Ukrainian
[00:22:54] neighbors 12 years ago. Here's another
[00:22:57] comparison, retired US Army Staff Officer,
[00:23:01] American military historian David Pine also compares
[00:23:04] the crisis in Poland now with the events of 2014 in
[00:23:08] Ukraine. The target of this coup was
[00:23:12] Poland's Constitutional Tribunal, its chairman was removed
[00:23:16] by order of Prime Minister Tusk, similar to the violent
[00:23:19] coup in Ukraine, carried out with the support
[00:23:22] of the CIA and leading to the overthrow of a democratically elected
[00:23:25] president. We will most likely be presented with this as democracy in
[00:23:29] action. The most interesting thing is, they support such an opinion, such
[00:23:32] a point of view in Ukraine, this is what Ukrainian
[00:23:36] Telegram channels write.
[00:23:39] Tusk goes all-in. His statements are hypocritical, as he, while
[00:23:42] being Prime Minister of Poland in 2013-14,
[00:23:45] strongly supported Maidan and the forceful actions of protesters against
[00:23:49] Yanukovych, telling Ukrainian fools about a European
[00:23:52] future, understanding that by destroying their state, they would become
[00:23:56] weak and vulnerable, fall under the control of Western structures, which would begin
[00:24:00] the carving up of the country, preparing Ukraine for a flawed future as a kamikaze
[00:24:03] country. How did it turn out? Now, when he himself decided to usurp power and
[00:24:07] people came out against him, he talks about observing laws and the rule
[00:24:11] of law. Hypocrisy, satanic level. Alexey Vladimirovich,
[00:24:14] are the events in Poland similar to the events in Ukraine in terms of Maidan,
[00:24:18] and is there a chance they will escalate?
[00:24:50] The crisis in Poland plays into our hands from a military, political, and
[00:24:53] economic point of view, because Poland today remains one of the key hubs for supplying weapons
[00:24:57] to Ukraine, so from my point of view, let this crisis
[00:25:01] continue as long as possible, if the situation there goes according to the Maidan
[00:25:04] scenario, then I see no downsides, as they say, I doubt,
[00:25:07] of course, that they will bring the situation to the point where events
[00:25:11] like those in Kyiv in 2014 begin, but the potential is there,
[00:25:15] and here, as they say, I also see no downsides, that's how I feel about
[00:25:18] this.
[00:25:50] it exacerbates his situation in Poland, because
[00:25:54] I made a remark regarding the fact that Poles chose
[00:25:57] Nawrocki, Poles chose sovereignty, yes, but on
[00:26:01] the one hand.
[00:26:32] he acts quite confidently, but the fact is that he will
[00:26:35] now maneuver, that he will now look for this way to keep European
[00:26:39] subsidies, because what does the European Union do when in some
[00:26:43] country, be it Hungary, Romania, whatever happens, what does it do? It cuts
[00:26:47] subsidies, and that's it, that's it, no questions asked, simply, so
[00:26:50] Nawrocki is now trying to make sure that Brussels doesn't
[00:26:53] have a formal, even just an opportunity to do it, so he's
[00:26:57] playing, it turns out, we need to ask
[00:33:04] of political elites in Poland, the question of Ukraine could not but arise. Where would
[00:33:08] we be without it? And so, the head of the Polish Foreign Ministry, Sikorski, demanded that President
[00:33:12] Nawrocki abandon Ukraine.
[00:33:18] The United States is currently completing a review of its
[00:33:21] military presence in Europe officially announced: "Wait, this
[00:33:25] decision will be made no later than December." Thus, it is not about
[00:33:29] the desire to create a base, but rather about haste or political intrigues
[00:33:32] around this issue. The role of the Polish president in this matter
[00:33:36] is to ensure that the President of the United
[00:33:39] States fulfills the given promise. It would also be good
[00:33:42] if the president could overcome his skepticism.
[00:34:01] unanimity, here's what the media
[00:34:02] says about it.
[00:34:05] The situation around this court is quite unique, I don't
[00:34:09] know of anything similar happening in another country, but it's important to remember
[00:34:13] that what is often considered on...
[00:34:45] evident, may soon worsen even more. Poland
[00:34:49] will likely face an influx of mentally ill
[00:34:52] Ukrainians. This forecast was made by the Chief Commandant of the Polish
[00:34:56] Police. After the war ends, Ukrainians
[00:35:00] who fought on the front will come to their families in Poland.
[00:35:03] We must prepare for whether and how they
[00:35:07] will function in a normal world outside the front. We predict that
[00:35:11] some of these people will have mental problems. Those who
[00:35:14] today do not have front-line experience are the best soldiers for organized
[00:35:18] criminal groups. They have combat experience, so they don't need
[00:35:21] to be taught anything, it's enough to simply use them.
[00:35:25] The head of the National Security Bureau of Poland,
[00:35:29] Bartosz Grodecki, is also sounding the alarm.
[00:35:32] The armed conflict in Ukraine is ending, these people will start
[00:35:36] coming here, to their families, to their wives, to their girlfriends, these are people
[00:35:40] who were on the front, who know how to handle weapons, this is a huge
[00:35:44] challenge for the service.
[00:39:27] Russian propaganda, Russia generally manipulates the consciousness of all
[00:39:31] Europeans, so democracy must be protected
[00:39:34] from voters, from the electorate,
[00:39:38] in order to protect Europe from voters, how does that sound, right?
[00:39:41] Democracy must be protected from voters, from half of the political
[00:39:44] forces that turn out to be insufficiently democratic and authoritarian, this is indeed a pan-European
[00:39:48] crisis of democracy, not just a Polish one, in this situation
[00:39:52] we need to
[00:39:57] push through the victory of these globalist forces,
[00:40:00] because only they can protect democracy,
[00:40:03] accordingly, all anti-Ukrainian sentiments that
[00:40:07] exist in Poland, on which Nawrocki
[00:40:11] generally operates, are considered -
[00:40:14] those who raise this question are against democracy, against Ukraine,
[00:40:18] against the process of Russia, and probably, accordingly, his activities
[00:40:22] are somehow connected with Russian interests, you know, how many
[00:40:25] times have you said the word democracy.
[00:41:28] already under slogans against the rising cost
[00:41:31] of living, the mandatory return of military service, people on the streets
[00:41:34] across Germany demanded the resignation of Chancellor
[00:41:37] Merz.
[00:41:48] one of the largest protests in Germany in recent times began with
[00:41:51] calls for change, and ended with barricades, broken windows, and
[00:41:55] clashes with the police. Mainly young
[00:41:57] protesters took to the streets, demanding
[00:42:01] improvements in the education system and a reduction in the cost of living.
[00:42:05] The main organizers were activists opposing mandatory
[00:42:08] military service. Protesters
[00:42:11] are demanding an end to mandatory conscription, and of course, there are
[00:42:14] repeated demands for the government's resignation, specifically
[00:42:18] Merz's.
[00:42:26] Demonstrations began peacefully, however, almost immediately reports began to emerge
[00:42:29] of masked individuals, which already caused concern for
[00:42:33] the police. The most violent riots occurred
[00:42:37] in Frankfurt, on a shopping street protesters.
[00:43:40] rushed to Germany, the situation in Frankfurt and Cologne is similar to the situation in
[00:43:43] France. Yes, it would be extremely naive
[00:43:47] to believe that the protests would not affect Germany, extremist forces from
[00:43:50] the left wing are just waiting for opportunities to implement
[00:43:53] their ideology, and I am sure that this is just
[00:43:57] the beginning.
[00:44:03] If this is just the beginning, what will the end be like? Well, now let's ask our
[00:44:07] Germany connection, journalist, author of the "Voice" project.
[00:44:51] for Germany, they used to go to anti-right protests, also those who were from the ecological sect or who were under
[00:44:55] that influence came out, and this means that Merz's and Pistorius's
[00:44:58] policies completely failed, and now, as a person who has been going to
[00:45:02] demonstrations for 11 years, I have seen many movements, splits,
[00:45:05] mergers, this is a completely autonomous movement, why
[00:45:09] autonomous? Because they used to fight us, now
[00:45:13] they are not with us, but for
[00:45:17] a purely European problem and was
[00:45:20] expected, how dangerous are these protests for Merz and
[00:45:24] can there be consequences, well, of course there will be consequences,
[00:45:27] because if these movements reunite, we are now seeing
[00:45:31] one of the most important reunions in Saxony-Anhalt - this is the Alternative for
[00:45:34] Germany party, Sarah Wagenknecht's party, working
[00:45:37] together at last, this was impossible before and...
[00:46:52] options on how to integrate the European Union into the discussion
[00:46:55] of a peace track? Well, it's interesting, in fact, for now
[00:46:59] Europeans are behaving as if they don't need any agreements with us, and
[00:47:03] they are doing it openly, every day only anti-Russian statements come
[00:47:06] from Europe, here the German Foreign Minister Waderful said that he does
[00:47:10] not consider Russia part of the Western
[00:47:13] family. Well, here of course it is worth noting that once again
[00:47:16] the head of European diplomacy, Kaja Kallas, distinguished herself,
[00:47:19] but where would we be without her, she was very displeased with the fact that
[00:47:23] Russia was invited to
[00:47:24] the G20.
[00:47:28] In your opinion, will the participation of the Russian President in the G20 summit in Florida in
[00:47:32] December affect the course of the event? Of course,
[00:47:35] this raises many serious questions, because we know that
[00:47:39] it was he who started this war, and it really contradicts the UN Charter
[00:47:42] and all the principles that all these countries sitting at the negotiating
[00:47:46] table have signed. For us, the return of Russia to international forums
[00:47:50] is unacceptable.
[00:47:52] She regularly spouts nonsense every time. She thinks she's new, well, yes, yes,
[00:47:56] everyone should applaud her. Alexey Alexeyevich, what do you
[00:47:59] think Europe will do and what can it really
[00:48:03] do to break into this negotiation flow? It will do
[00:48:07] everything, everything, because Europe is now experiencing such political
[00:48:10] loneliness. You probably noticed how unsuccessful the visits
[00:48:14] of European politicians to China are, how
[00:48:17] Donald Trump harasses them in Washington, and so
[00:48:20] on. Europe now feels abandoned.
[00:48:22] lonely on the sidelines of history, because, well,
[00:48:26] the world is for three, China, Russia, the United
[00:48:29] States,
[00:48:31] yes, this is just some kind of nonsense, I think that European politicians on this matter
[00:48:35] are experiencing an acute complex of political inferiority, which some Kalas
[00:48:38] tries to compensate for with inflated cheeks, listen, Alexey Alexeyevich, they used to be able to
[00:48:42] completely torpedo the entire negotiation
[00:48:45] track, but they always disrupted it. They sat at the negotiating
[00:48:48] table or in the smoking room. goal,
[00:49:52] because
[00:49:55] the situation has gone so far that
[00:49:59] it is better described in Jack London's story about the village
[00:50:02] of Trulya-lya. Remember, they invested so much money in a concession for
[00:50:05] gold mining where there is no gold, that now admitting that
[00:50:08] there is no gold and simply writing off all the money is impossible, so they have to go
[00:50:12] to the end. Going to the end means trying to
[00:50:15] compensate for the lost militarization. Militarization
[00:50:19] is the military industry.
[00:51:52] no, because he understands perfectly well that the Europeans will eventually remove him, that is, he is also
[00:51:56] in a rather difficult position, when maybe deep down he would
[00:52:00] like to agree on something with Moscow, but he cannot afford it, and the Europeans
[00:52:03] will continue anyway. the line of destructiveness and breaking off negotiations,
[00:52:07] unfortunately, they still have the resources for this, Americans can
[00:52:10] force Europeans
[00:52:13] to be more
[00:52:15] diplomatic,
[00:52:17] they can already ask Europeans about it, but they cannot force them, now
[00:52:21] Donald Trump's administration is clearly not in the political form when they can
[00:52:25] order anything to Brussels, and we basically see this during the entire new
[00:52:28] cadency of Trump, that he cannot push through either Ursula
[00:52:32] or the national governments that are focused on conflict with... the United
[00:52:38] States
[00:52:41] does not have any leverage, but we see that it turns out that the United
[00:52:45] States can do a lot and have a certain influence on Europeans, for example,
[00:52:49] the Wall Street Journal learned about the US's desire to achieve gas supplies
[00:52:52] through
[00:52:54] Ukraine.
[00:52:56] The US advocates for the earliest possible resumption of Russian
[00:52:59] natural gas supplies to Europe via pipelines
[00:53:02] passing through Ukraine, military. Russia as
[00:53:05] part of negotiations aimed at achieving an energy
[00:53:09] truce ahead of the upcoming winter. According to American
[00:53:13] negotiators, Russia's return to the European natural gas market
[00:53:16] will be a powerful incentive for Moscow to agree to peace
[00:53:20] terms. The use of a network of Soviet-era gas pipelines
[00:53:23] running to Europe through Ukraine from the Urengoy gas
[00:53:27] fields in Siberia will also provide Kyiv with much-needed
[00:53:30] revenue from transit fees. This is what the United
[00:53:32] States needs. Vladimir.
[00:54:05] is offering, no, they are offering to continue funding,
[00:54:09] they are offering to continue producing weapons, they are offering to kill Russians,
[00:54:12] and you know, I will allow myself a literary image, imagine this gathering
[00:54:16] of European like-minded people, Ursula von der Leyen is sitting there and says: "You know, my
[00:54:20] grandfather invented autogenic training so that our
[00:54:23] German Wehrmacht soldiers sitting in the trenches
[00:54:27] would not be cold near Stalingrad." Her grandfather really invented
[00:54:31] this. Merz sits and says, "And my grandfather named a street after...
[00:54:35] Hitler, ha-ha-ha." Some Kalas sits there, not knowing what to come up with, says, "And
[00:54:38] my grandfather was probably tortured in the Soviet Union." You understand,
[00:54:42] economic nobility or sanity is absent in
[00:54:45] them, they cannot come to terms with the fact that Hitler
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[01:00:40] through the "All for Victory" website or with the help of the QR code on your screen,
[01:00:43] let's not remain indifferent in the country. News.
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