1TV — Pust govoryat 20261102 165000 UTC 788 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] that these factors cannot explain the string of incredibly brazen [00:00:04] daily attacks on people, because previously cautious [00:00:07] animals now fearlessly enter populated areas and [00:00:11] seem to test people's strength, and now [00:00:14] it's as if they've been reprogrammed, that's the [00:00:16] feeling. After our broadcast, a new ominous [00:00:19] fragment appeared in this puzzle: Krasnoyarsk Krai [00:00:23] on October 7th, here rabies was officially detected [00:00:26] in a brown bear, a deadly virus for humans... a virus that [00:00:30] is transmitted through bites and which, after the appearance [00:00:33] of symptoms, leaves its victim no chance of salvation. [00:00:37] But where do predators get this dangerous infection? Was the infection [00:00:41] natural, or did someone interfere in this process? [00:00:44] History knows cases when pathogens of deadly [00:00:47] diseases were used as biological weapons. [00:00:51] One example is the Scottish island of Gruinard. In [00:00:54] 1942, the British military, preparing to use [00:00:58] biological weapons against. [00:01:30] as carriers of this very biological [00:01:33] weapon. While scientists are looking for explanations for what is happening, [00:01:36] bears continue to throw new riddles at them. [00:01:40] The circumstances of some attacks clearly resemble a thriller [00:01:43] scenario. Altai Krai. A fifteen-year-old teenager tried [00:01:47] to escape from an enraged bear in a tree, but [00:01:50] the predator caught the boy and inflicted terrible [00:01:53] wounds on him. It seemed the boy was doomed, but the bear's claw [00:01:56] pierced the phone in the teenager's pocket. The battery flashed. [00:02:01] and the beast ran away, the boy survived, here's another tragedy: unfortunately, in [00:02:05] this case, the victim of the beast died, but new circumstances [00:02:08] suddenly came to light in the case of her death: [00:02:11] Krasnoyarsk Krai, a pensioner was found dead after a bear attack, [00:02:15] it is known that the predator dragged her out of the house through the window, but how [00:02:19] did this even become possible? Today on the program [00:02:22] "Let Them Talk," we will for the first time show footage from a surveillance [00:02:25] camera aimed at the window of the deceased, what was captured on [00:02:28] film and doesn't this recording hold the key to solving [00:02:32] one of the most inexplicable attacks, and most importantly [00:02:36] is not the discovered deadly [00:02:38] infection just the first signal of impending catastrophic [00:02:42] events? Don't miss the investigation of the program [00:02:46] "Let Them Talk." [00:02:48] In the month since the broadcast of our previous program on this [00:02:52] topic, not a day goes by without a report of another [00:02:56] bear approaching people or attacking a person. [00:03:00] A fifteen-year-old young man was injured in [00:03:03] Barnaul, a witness to what happened, Viktor Zhigulsky, is in our studio today, let's welcome him, [00:03:19] good evening, what happened before your eyes, yes, [00:03:22] a bear attacked a guy, how was it, yes, it all happened before [00:03:26] my eyes, well, we came to the apiary to work. [00:03:30] was going to treat, just started treating the first hive, I mean [00:03:33] I see that a bear is already crossing [00:03:36] the fence, so Anton and I ran, [00:03:40] I climbed a tree , and [00:03:42] that is, where we started treating, there were also trees nearby, he [00:03:46] immediately climbed them, and I was a little further away, but [00:03:50] there have already been such cases, bears came specifically to [00:03:53] attack people, no, we haven't had that, no, so [00:03:57] this is the first time, what saved him? [00:04:01] Well, his phone exploded, that is, when I was already climbing [00:04:04] the tree, and that is, I heard him screaming, that is, I realized that [00:04:08] he had thrown him from the tree, and that is, I [00:04:11] got down, from the tree I let the dogs go, I also started [00:04:15] screaming there, and that is the dogs ran [00:04:18] towards him, and he got distracted by them and went, went [00:04:21] calmly, and that is, when the bear climbed back over the fence, I quickly ran [00:04:25] to Anton, so your apiary is located near the forest, is [00:04:29] it safe to set up an apiary near [00:04:32] the forest, near the bear's home, but the bear, of course, logically, [00:04:35] will come out for the smell of honey, why didn't you think [00:04:39] about your safety, probably some kind of fence should have been [00:04:43] put up, well, the apiary near the forest, indeed, there were these [00:04:46] fences, everything, we have an electric fence all connected, well [00:04:50] that is, when we started doing all this work, it was turned off, this is [00:04:53] the first such case, the first case, it's just that usually normally [00:04:57] everyone lived together in the taiga, and normally. Note, [00:05:01] Dmitry, I want to say, the bear came to eat honey, right, like honey, but [00:05:04] he saw people, people ran away from him, honey, please, eat, he didn't eat honey, he [00:05:08] went after people, he went after the boy, he started hunting, [00:05:12] he ran, the hunter's instinct awoke, of course, he [00:05:15] ran after well, hunting, well, is this normal, Timofey, [00:05:19] is this normal behavior, or an anomaly, because what they are telling us now is that this [00:05:23] is abnormal behavior, this has never happened before, no, this is absolutely normal [00:05:27] behavior, I want to inform everyone gathered here that [00:05:30] a bear morphologically is a plantigrade wolf, that is, [00:05:33] it is a predator that primarily prefers [00:05:37] a meat diet, another thing is that it doesn't want to hunt [00:05:40] often and it... compensates for the lack of meat in its diet [00:05:44] with all sorts of tasty things, raspberries, honey, frogs, [00:05:48] mice, but it happens that when it sees before itself, here's [00:05:52] honey, and a huge piece of meat that climbed not very high [00:05:55] into a tree, of course, it thinks, now I [00:05:58] will feast, it behaves absolutely normally, there hasn't been a year [00:06:02] like this, where every week there are reports [00:06:05] that bears are attacking and hunting people, yes there were [00:06:08] cases where they came out, but usually they managed to scare them away somehow. [00:06:12] Well, in fact, bears, just like people, can be [00:06:16] brave, cowardly, kind and evil, smart and stupid [00:06:20] and as always, there are very few smart ones, and uh, [00:06:23] mostly aggressive and cowardly. A bear really [00:06:26] resembles a human, and a bear thinks roughly [00:06:30] like a stupid, aggressive human, so its [00:06:33] behavior should be interpreted [00:06:36] by those around it. Before you is a stupid, aggressive, possibly [00:06:39] drunk, very strong man with a knife. This [00:06:43] is his kind of psychotype, well there was a heavy sigh from Anatoly Nikolaevich just now, good [00:06:46] evening, Anatoly, the Honored [00:06:50] Ecologist of Russia is in our studio, who, by the way, took part in [00:06:54] the meeting that was held in the government on this topic, that is, this is already reaching [00:06:58] the level of serious discussion, the problem [00:07:00] exists, yes, the problem exists, it didn't come [00:07:04] out of nowhere, it was expected and assumed [00:07:07] a long time ago, such cases have already occurred, these are population explosions, I called [00:07:11] them that, I... I have been dealing with bears for more than 50 years [00:07:14] and I know something about them, I found [00:07:17] a very simple answer, this is my hypothesis, I am not saying that it is so, in fact, [00:07:21] this is the so-called hundredth [00:07:24] monkey effect, when on one, on one of [00:07:26] the islands in Japan in a video camera [00:07:30] they recorded when the hundredth monkey washed [00:07:32] a sweet potato in sea water, all the monkeys on all [00:07:35] the islands in the Tokyo Zoo started washing [00:07:38] sweet potatoes, has something similar happened with our [00:07:41] bears? Look, since the beginning of September, bears [00:07:45] started behaving inadequately in Canada, in [00:07:48] America, on Sakhalin, on Kamchatka, throughout Russia, in [00:07:52] Western Europe, the same thing, that is, there was [00:07:55] some kind of population explosion, semi-cosmic, whether they have [00:07:59] this, this is what interests me most, because [00:08:02] how did they transmit this [00:08:05] information to each other, apparently, somewhere the hundredth or 101st bear attacked [00:08:09] a person, and bears began to consider a person... worthy [00:08:12] prey, let's move away from esotericism and think, [00:08:16] after all, let's operate with normal [00:08:19] facts, the forests are covered with windfalls, this is an excellent habitat [00:08:23] for the beast, uh, so, the bear ceased [00:08:27] to be a desirable hunting trophy, because the meat is not [00:08:30] valued due to trichinosis, skins are not needed because there are no [00:08:33] taxidermists and no demand for it, the license is very [00:08:37] expensive, no culling, the food base is enormous, garbage dumps [00:08:40] everywhere, of course they multiply. [00:09:42] is abnormal, this is exactly what is not happening, this is an anomaly, that [00:09:46] very anomaly that we are seeing now, because apiaries always [00:09:50] stood in the taiga, and even very often without any [00:09:53] electric fences, villages were always in the deep taiga, [00:09:56] and people coexisted [00:09:58] with bears, [00:10:01] because bears were always kept at gunshot [00:10:04] range, in recent years the behavior of humans towards bears has changed [00:10:07] very much, because what are we doing, we started [00:10:11] feeding them, to do what? [00:10:45] but it just comes to mind first, it's precisely the version of some biological [00:10:48] weapon, of some kind of external influence on the bear, about which, well, I just one [00:10:52] second, [00:11:25] this hundredth patient, as you say, the hundredth monkey, yes, he just made [00:11:29] this observation, recorded by cameras, but [00:11:32] no one has ever made such observations of bears, that is, you think, and you [00:11:36] announced this at the meeting of the Deputy Prime Minister, yes, [00:11:39] that bears somehow the entire population now knows that [00:11:43] humans are edible, some information was transmitted, [00:11:47] what happened, I cannot say, and even [00:11:50] people who are used to bears cannot understand, Vyacheslav [00:11:53] Lemzhan, the father of the victim. [00:12:25] but weren't you scared to let your son go there, a fifteen-year-old, [00:12:28] well, scared or not scared, but there were no such cases where a bear came [00:12:31] and attacked [00:12:34] someone, yes, they walked there, walked, [00:12:37] then everyone came at once, crowded around [00:12:39] the village, crowded around the apiaries, [00:12:43] at everyone's, not just mine, apiaries are everywhere [00:12:45] every 3 km, at every apiary, yes, at [00:12:49] every apiary there are attacks on bees, on [00:12:52] people, everywhere. I [00:12:55] think it's a rather strange phrase: scared, not scared, but it didn't [00:12:59] happen, because still, right now, especially in places [00:13:02] where people live next to bears, it should [00:13:06] be scary, and there should be rules, [00:13:09] as far as I know, it happened in the evening, that is, after, [00:13:13] it happened, excuse me, please, it happened in the morning at 10 or 11 [00:13:16] o'clock, that is, it was light, yes, daytime, when [00:13:20] it's the peak of work, when it would seem, the boys, now [00:13:24] apiaries with these... [00:13:30] He got to the point, he even [00:13:33] comes to some apiaries, he comes with a log, [00:13:36] well, he is smart, he comes with a log, [00:13:40] throws it at the bush or breaks the bushes on the shepherd, climbs [00:13:44] over and smashes the bees, but by default, what does a bear do at 10 AM, [00:13:48] it should be sleeping, it should be sleeping, it should be sleeping, when [00:13:51] it's a solid animal, that is, closer to night ideally. [00:13:55] should with darkness, when it got light, it should go and [00:13:58] rest, that's how bears behave everywhere, the only time [00:14:01] is when they have a fattening period, they can feed under [00:14:05] a tree until noon or longer, then a break, then [00:14:08] feed again, but that doesn't mean they should be active around the clock, no, [00:14:12] there's already snow there, isn't it time for hibernation, like, into a global winter [00:14:16] already slowly, how do bears usually go into hibernation in your [00:14:19] region? For us, probably at the end [00:14:22] of September, everything is gone, nothing is there, [00:14:26] so it shouldn't be, there shouldn't have been any bear for a month already, [00:14:30] ideally, no bear should be there anymore. Your [00:14:33] son was saved by a mobile phone, essentially, right, yes, yes, which [00:14:36] Viktor saved, and the mobile phone, well, from the impact, terrible [00:14:40] burns on the body, this mobile phone exploded, which was [00:14:44] in his pocket from the impact of the bear's claw, the bear struck with its claw, yes, the phone [00:14:47] exploded, and that essentially scared it away, yes, if not for that, [00:14:51] then what are the doctors saying now, how is he doing? [00:14:55] Well, the condition is stable, but [00:14:58] the boy is all bitten, skull [00:15:01] chewed, [00:15:03] horror, the skull is bitten through, well [00:15:07] it almost reached the brain, large hematomas, [00:15:10] bitten shoulders these [00:15:14] right arm doesn't work, everything is bitten through, [00:15:17] both arms are bitten through, mainly torn, torn [00:15:21] nose, [00:15:24] torn nose. eye, eye here is also [00:15:26] bitten through, well I know, now the best doctors are fighting for Anton's [00:15:30] life and his health, well, the most dangerous part is supposedly [00:15:34] behind us, I was with him yesterday, he... [00:15:37] was glad that I came, well we wish [00:15:40] Anton a speedy recovery, we are also dealing with [00:15:44] his health with doctors, I heard that he has already been [00:15:47] transferred from intensive care, so the worst is indeed [00:15:50] over, but this is truly a miracle that after such [00:15:54] an encounter with a bear, the person survived, usually, unfortunately, everything ends [00:15:57] badly, Mikhail Arsenevich, what will happen if they don't go into hibernation at all, we talked about this last [00:16:01] time, but look, it's already [00:16:05] November, they are still telling stories. In most [00:16:08] of Russia, they are guaranteed to hibernate where [00:16:11] it starts to snow, I think this [00:16:15] will happen literally in [00:16:17] a week or two, for some time the tension will still [00:16:21] persist, I think, [00:16:24] that generally in such [00:16:27] situations, I will tell a little about myself, I have been dealing [00:16:30] with bear conflicts since eighty-six [00:16:33] , I have seen, well, if not everything. [00:16:37] It's a lot, and I saw a year when there were 80 [00:16:41] fatal cases in the country, [00:16:44] therefore, that is, almost nothing [00:16:47] surprises me here, everything has already happened, [00:16:50] so, I'm telling you, usually the peak comes right before [00:16:53] going into the den, now we are [00:16:57] saving ourselves by this fact that there is a mass [00:17:01] forced culling, now they are simply eliminating this most [00:17:04] hungry and aggressive fraction of the population. [00:17:09] but it's not a fact that they come out to people because people are [00:17:13] doing this, I'm watching a video now, it's [00:17:15] feeding, they came by car, if you turn on [00:17:19] the sound, we will hear that there are honks, at the honk that [00:17:23] a bear should ideally be scared of, we are feeding [00:17:26] the animal, accordingly we are creating conditioned reflexes, the animal is not [00:17:29] afraid of humans, the animal is not afraid of the chemical [00:17:33] smell of a car, the animal is not afraid, [00:17:36] it turns out. [00:19:37] the brain structure generally at the protein level, or some kind of modified rabies virus, [00:19:40] I don't know how to explain that all over the world they suddenly [00:19:44] learned to act identically all at once, [00:19:47] so I say, bears are - most likely, this [00:19:50] is an acceptable explanation, first - [00:19:54] yes, our climate is changing somewhat, it changes the bear's life cycles, yes, it [00:19:58] goes into hibernation a little later, secondly, magnetic field disturbances, including [00:20:02] local ones, the bear loses its orientation, all this [00:20:05] changes the behavior of individual individuals, whose numbers may also have increased, [00:20:08] well, finally, another thing, it's banal, understandable: in [00:20:12] the sixties and even seventies, there was no mobile phone with an HD camera for [00:20:16] every second teenager, so these cases remained just rumors [00:20:19] or vivid stories at the level of a fisherman telling another fisherman, but now [00:20:23] all this is documented. Well, by the way, about documentation, our [00:20:27] editorial office has obtained terrifying footage from a surveillance [00:20:30] camera, taken at the moment of one of the most mysterious tragedies in [00:20:34] Krasnoyarsk Krai. A bear dragged a woman out of her house through a window. [00:20:38] killed, what the camera recorded, immediately after a short commercial, we'll be back, let them talk, [00:20:42] stay with [00:20:42] us, [00:26:32] The statistics of the bear invasion continue to be updated with [00:26:35] new tragedies, but one of the attacks in the Krasnoyarsk Krai still [00:26:39] defies explanation. A bear broke into a house, dragged [00:26:42] its owner out through the window into the street, killed her and didn't even [00:26:46] touch her body, what made the predator commit this inexplicable [00:26:50] reprisal, the editorial staff of Let Them Talk got recordings from surveillance cameras [00:26:54] aimed at that very window. Will the mystery of the tragedy be revealed [00:26:58] today? [00:27:00] The terrible statistics of the inexplicable bear invasion have been supplemented [00:27:04] by another horrific case. Altai Krai. An enraged [00:27:07] predator attacked a fifteen-year-old teenager. It was not deterred by [00:27:11] the presence of an adult man next to the boy, nor by the boy's [00:27:15] attempt to escape into a tree. The beast's flight was caused by [00:27:18] a mobile phone. The bear's claw accidentally pierced the phone's [00:27:22] battery, which was in the boy's pocket, the phone flared up and [00:27:25] the predator ran away. Today in the studio "Let Them Talk" is the father of the injured [00:27:29] teenager, what made the beast so furiously [00:27:33] pursue its victim, and do the local residents, [00:27:36] accustomed to living next to bears, know why nothing like this [00:27:40] happened before, but there were no such cases where a bear came [00:27:43] and attacked someone, yes, they walked [00:27:47] there, walked, then everyone came [00:27:51] at once, crowded around the village, crowded around the apiaries, [00:27:54] an unexpected hypothesis is put forward by Doctor [00:27:57] of Biological Sciences, Honored Ecologist of Russia, Anatoly [00:28:01] Kudaktin, the scientist addresses [00:28:19] connects thousands of predators and how this hypothesis [00:28:23] explains the fact that new behavioral patterns emerged [00:28:26] in animals not connected to each other simultaneously, [00:28:30] how bears transmit to each other. [00:29:02] who sense the magnetic field. Of course, all distortions of the magnetic [00:29:06] field cause failures in their navigation. Have the [00:29:09] animals really lost their natural bearings? Will it be possible [00:29:12] to return to the previous model, when humans and bears peacefully coexisted [00:29:16] next to each other? This is an anomaly, that very anomaly [00:29:19] that we are seeing now, because apiaries always stood in [00:29:23] the taiga and even very often without any electric fences. [00:29:27] Microbiologist Igor Nikulin is looking for the reason for the inexplicable behavior [00:29:30] of bears in a completely different area. [00:30:02] one version is more incredible than the other, but while specialists [00:30:05] are trying to understand what is happening in the forests, one of the most [00:30:09] mysterious tragedies of this season receives an unexpected [00:30:12] continuation. Krasnoyarsk Krai: a pensioner was found dead [00:30:16] after a bear attack, it is known that the predator dragged the woman [00:30:19] out into the street, having entered her house through a window. Today in the program [00:30:23] "Let Them Talk", we will for the first time show footage from a surveillance camera [00:30:27] aimed at the window of the deceased, will this recording help to restore the picture [00:30:30] of one of the most mysterious falls, but the main thing is that [00:30:34] a woman will appear in our studio who was in the same house [00:30:37] on the night of the attack, the deceased's friend decided to tell [00:30:41] everything, what details can make us look at the circumstances [00:30:44] of the pensioner's death completely differently, what really [00:30:48] makes bears break the unwritten laws of coexistence [00:30:52] with humans. [00:30:55] Together with Lyudmila Prokopyevna in that same house was Nadezhda [00:30:58] Chanchina, she is here in our studio today, she came to Moscow with her daughter-in-law with... [00:31:02] And Irina, welcome. [00:31:15] Hello, hello, good evening, hello, [00:31:19] Nadezhda Anatolyevna, but you were lucky to survive in this [00:31:22] situation, it's just a chance, a matter of chance, [00:31:25] we spent the whole day making zucchini [00:31:28] caviar with her, well the window was plastic, [00:31:32] open from above, it was about 10 o'clock and [00:31:36] this, I say, Lyud, I say, I'm going to sleep, she says: turn on the radio [00:31:40] for me, because in the morning she had to go to work. [00:31:43] I, she says, will stay up a little later, I'll finish rolling [00:31:47] the jars, well, that's it, I went to sleep, in the morning Svetlana [00:31:50] Anatolyevna woke me up, she is the hostess, next door [00:31:54] is Fazenda, she says, Lyudmila was killed by a [00:31:57] bear. It was a complete shock for me. I [00:32:00] woke up, she wasn't there, and the door was [00:32:04] latched. I thought, how could I have opened it? Her body was lying about [00:32:08] three meters, I guess, from that [00:32:11] cabin. I couldn't. They show... a little [00:32:15] blood. The experts arrived. When [00:32:18] that happened, on one side, [00:32:21] there was bear fur, and on the other side, [00:32:25] Lyudmila's hair. [00:32:28] He just killed her in a moment. Listen, you've been [00:32:31] living next to bears for more than a year, it's clear that this animal is [00:32:35] familiar to you. Has it ever happened that they just deliberately [00:32:38] attack people? Never, never. Well, about [00:32:42] that, we have this version. [00:32:45] The expert and the investigator, [00:32:48] when he started looking at the cabin, you could see [00:32:52] claw marks. He started to be skeptical. There was no [00:32:55] talk about a bear, nothing. When he [00:32:58] started being skeptical, she thought again that the bulls had gotten in. [00:33:02] Uh-huh, she just opened that door, oh, this [00:33:05] window, the window, and he killed her at that time. [00:33:09] So, it's like a hunt for people, a hunt for people has been declared. You understand, it's [00:33:13] a hunt. He came up, entered the yard, [00:33:17] but Lyudmila's door opens inwards. [00:33:19] He would have, if the door had opened outwards, [00:33:23] he would have just pushed it in. Uh-huh, because [00:33:26] near the porch, there were huge [00:33:30] footprints, everything was overturned on the porch. So he tried to enter through the [00:33:33] door, and then he realized he needed to lure her out, so she would open the [00:33:37] window. But wait, so it's a miracle that you survived, because [00:33:41] you were right there in the next window, weren't you? [00:34:51] that they don't have enough berries in the forest or something, not berries, at least [00:34:54] some explanation. [00:34:57] I'll just give my version, my version, about what I [00:35:01] heard. Believe me, when Covid started, at our time too, [00:35:04] everyone at first treated it so, you know, [00:35:07] well, some nonsense, everything, everything, and then it turned out not to be nonsense. [00:35:11] It turned out that these were special strains that were released from laboratories. So, [00:35:15] I'm more than sure, there's even reason to believe that it's the same here. I [00:35:18] think that in some unfriendly country, they could have developed this [00:35:22] potion and sprayed it in the habitats of bears, targeted at [00:35:26] bears, turning off their fear brain, you understand? That is, they started a [00:35:30] biological war against us. In fact, at the same time, environmentalists still believe that [00:35:33] the version is more natural, Anton Nikolaevich, yes, that somehow they themselves [00:35:37] transmit it to each other for the first time. This science is not [00:35:40] yet known, so when they say now, let's take some [00:35:44] measures. There is a group of synanthropic bears, they [00:35:47] need to be removed, synanthropic, to save the [00:35:50] population. I have always said that a good [00:35:53] chess player, when he starts playing a game, sacrifices a piece [00:35:57] and wins the game. Now we have [00:36:00] such a situation, we must remove this synanthropic group [00:36:04] that has come to people and attacks people, to save [00:36:08] the rest of the bears. But to this, animal rights activists say that [00:36:11] we are doing everything so that, I don't know, to increase. [00:36:27] Let's look at the footage that people themselves record in defense of [00:36:31] bears. Friends, the world has gone mad. I am just in [00:36:34] shock at the news I just read: premiums will be paid for shooting bears during [00:36:38] hibernation. I start crying immediately. Bears are going to be [00:36:42] shot even in winter right in their dens, where bear cubs are with their mothers. [00:36:45] At the same time, they are promoting the removal of limits on their hunting and other legislative restrictions. For [00:36:49] killed animals, monetary rewards are already being introduced in some regions, up to 50,000 rubles per [00:36:53] animal life is worth 50,000 rubles. I just have no [00:36:56] words. All this. [00:37:03] Oh, good evening, this is your video, it's clear that it's very touching, you really want to protect [00:37:07] animals, yes, are you not convinced by experts who say [00:37:10] otherwise? Of course, it's very scary what's [00:37:14] happening now, that bears attack people, children, [00:37:17] you wouldn't wish such a thing to your enemy [00:37:20] to experience, but I believe that this needs to be investigated, [00:37:24] why this is happening, they say that... there's no [00:37:28] food, right, I mean, no berries, [00:37:31] why, why are forests being cut down, yes, [00:37:33] why are bears coming to people [00:37:37] for help, they are not all going [00:37:40] to attack and be aggressive, they are going for help, for food, [00:37:43] because we humans ourselves have accustomed them to this, [00:37:46] as they said in the previous broadcast, that there are landfills that are not [00:37:50] equipped. I think that this problem needs to be solved at the [00:37:54] root, the problem with landfills, the problem with this [00:37:57] feeding, yes, when it's thrown away, it should be solved [00:38:01] systematically, right? Here's the story about, it's not clear anymore what [00:38:05] started, what was first, these feeding places, as you [00:38:08] say, yes, feeding, or attacks on people, and people are already [00:38:12] forced to feed them, because they say, there are no berries in the forest, we'd better [00:38:16] feed them now so that they don't bother our children [00:38:19] and don't hunt in the kindergarten, as the footage shows us, [00:38:23] around the kindergarten, yes, the bear tries to get through the [00:38:26] fence, there it is. And maybe it's worth restoring the fear of humans in [00:38:30] bears, and arranging special feeders, their feeding places [00:38:33] deep, deep in their habitats. Why feed [00:38:36] them from your hands and teach them that humans are edible? This is a mistake, never [00:38:40] feed a bear, just a second, [00:38:42] sweetie, [00:38:45] yes, while we're figuring out who is responsible for this bear [00:38:48] behavior, stars, magnetic radiation, or [00:38:52] Covid, excuse me, but we need to understand who is responsible for [00:38:56] people's safety? [00:39:27] Aren't you ashamed? Who is responsible for human [00:39:31] lives? I will say in defense of Lisa that it is a very [00:39:34] popular opinion that bears' lives are also worth something, and they need [00:39:38] to be saved. Let's watch more videos that users post online. [00:40:27] years, bears are starving, female bears migrate and lose [00:40:31] their cubs, [00:40:32] bear, [00:40:36] how to find this balance between saving humans and saving bears, [00:40:39] after all? And you know, first and foremost, I still adhere to the idea [00:40:43] that everything should be in moderation, and I feel just as [00:40:46] sorry for animals, but I also feel sorry for people who suffer from [00:40:50] these animals. Let's watch the video. You, [00:40:53] Ekaterina, know firsthand what a bear is. Look. [00:41:40] Well, these videos get millions of views, Kat, but the [00:41:44] animal rights activists don't come to you saying, what are you doing to the predator, so how will [00:41:47] it be in nature after this? Let's start [00:41:51] with the fact that the bear cubs shown in the video will [00:41:54] never go into the wild. A bear that [00:41:57] has contact with humans is not released into the wild, it [00:42:01] remains to live in a rehabilitation center, where it is. [00:42:05] This video was shot on the territory of the nature [00:42:07] rehabilitation center. Children... [00:42:47] and we scientists had to gather, make a decision, fortunately we were heard in the ministries. [00:42:51] We finished with the wolf, now the same component, the green, [00:42:54] is spreading some incomprehensible nonsense, which is incomprehensible. I say [00:42:58] that it is necessary for the country to have a strategy [00:43:02] for managing predator populations. This [00:43:05] strategy will then allow us, on a scientific basis, [00:43:08] to say: where there is a large number of synanthropic bears, and [00:43:12] synanthropic bears are the most terrible, these are synanthropic bears that live next to [00:43:15] humans, this is a potential. There are so many [00:43:19] different scientific associations that identify the reasons [00:43:22] why the bear did something wrong, but the problem [00:43:26] is that while we are going to figure out if this is against [00:43:29] us, politicians, this is against us, geneticists, this is against us, [00:43:33] who, the bear comes to these people and [00:43:36] specifically kills their surroundings. [00:44:47] Alena, good evening, good evening. October 15th, [00:44:50] yes, you will always remember this date, when the bear broke into the house. What [00:44:53] happened? My grandmother was almost eaten [00:44:56] by a bear in her own house. She was sleeping [00:45:00] at that time, it was 1 AM. She [00:45:03] woke up to the barking of her pet dogs. When she went [00:45:07] to see who had arrived, these are real shots. This event, [00:45:10] look, yes, the bear's visit, how it looks, yes, [00:45:13] she saw a shadow in the window. He approached. [00:45:17] At that moment, he hit the window with his paw, breaking it. [00:45:21] She ran to the veranda, and stayed there [00:45:25] until he left. And he acted as if [00:45:28] he was a smart bear. He opened cupboards, [00:45:32] refrigerators, [00:45:35] he ate 10 kg of sugar, he scattered [00:45:38] candies there. In the end, he climbed in through the window, and he also climbed [00:45:42] in through the window. After he had wreaked havoc [00:45:45] in the kitchen, he went into the [00:45:48] room where, as she [00:45:51] thinks, he saw himself in the mirror [00:45:55] and ran away. So he was only scared of another bear, so to [00:45:59] speak, himself in the mirror, he wasn't prepared for such a turn of events. The large mirror saved him. Now [00:46:03] we'll see it, look, this is the mirror in which the [00:46:06] bear saw himself, and judging by everything, [00:46:09] that's why. He just ran away, but the supplies [00:46:11] too, but she also assumes that [00:46:15] he saw himself, otherwise he would have eaten her, she says. In the last [00:46:19] program, residents of a whole village said that each of them had [00:46:22] their own bear in the garden. How are they [00:46:26] living now? Why are [00:46:29] bears behaving inadequately this year? A sensational version, right after a short commercial, [00:46:33] this is "Let Them Talk," stay with [00:46:34] us. [00:46:39] Aleshin. Mission accomplished. The results of the humanitarian action organized with [00:46:43] the mediation of the First Lady of America. What was accomplished and what lies ahead [00:46:46] now? [00:46:49] FPV goggles with explosives. The Federal Security Service prevented [00:46:53] a large-scale attack on our defenders. Dangerous cargo was attempted [00:46:56] to be transferred to the front under the guise of humanitarian [00:46:58] aid. 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They [00:52:30] no longer limit themselves to raids on landfills and apiaries, they [00:52:33] invade where humans were once in complete [00:52:36] safety. But what made predators break the rules of the game? [00:52:40] Scientists talk about an invisible connection between animals, about failures in natural [00:52:43] instincts, and even possible external interference. And new [00:52:47] eyewitness accounts only add fuel to the fire. Today [00:52:50] in the studio of "Let Them Talk": the continuation of one of the most [00:52:53] terrible stories of this invasion. Krasnoyarsk region. [00:52:56] A bear appears near the house of a pensioner, who is later [00:52:59] found dead. It is known that the beast broke into the house and dragged [00:53:03] the pensioner out through the window. But now, for the first time, a woman who [00:53:07] was only a few meters from the scene of the tragedy [00:53:10] will tell about the events of that day. About three meters, probably, from [00:53:14] that cabin, a body is lying, [00:53:17] well, a little blood. Experts arrived. When [00:53:20] this happened, on one side, [00:53:23] there was bear fur, and on the other [00:53:27] side, Lyudmila's hair. Death a few meters from [00:53:30] her own home. What happened in the last minutes of the woman's life? [00:53:34] Why didn't the bear retreat, and [00:53:38] is it even possible to predict the actions of a predator who [00:53:41] suddenly stopped fearing humans? Meanwhile, the country [00:53:44] has split into two irreconcilable camps: some demand that dangerous [00:53:48] animals be stopped immediately and at any cost, others are ready to defend [00:53:51] them even after new reports of attacks. Disputes are raging online, bloggers cannot [00:53:55] hold back tears upon learning of plans to shoot bears. [00:53:59] Friends, the world has gone mad, I start crying immediately. Bears are going to be [00:54:02] shot even in winter right in their dens, where bear cubs [00:54:05] are. But while people argue who to save first, [00:54:08] humans or beasts, bears [00:54:11] continue to behave as if human homes have become part [00:54:15] of their territory. Another story that sends shivers down your [00:54:19] spine: a bear breaks the window of a residential house, the homeowner miraculously manages to [00:54:22] hide on the veranda and avoid meeting the predator, [00:54:26] and the beast does what was least expected of him, he doesn't just [00:54:30] look for food, he seems to be auditing someone else's [00:54:33] dwelling. She saw... who suggest [00:55:06] that animals somehow acquire new knowledge and skills [00:55:10] from each other, because in our studio, the incredible [00:55:13] version of the so-called hundredth monkey effect has already been heard, as if [00:55:18] there is an invisible communication channel between bears, through which [00:55:21] new experience spreads. But while experts [00:55:24] try to understand the behavior of predators, residents of the taiga regions [00:55:28] of Russia learn to survive in a new reality. The village of [00:55:32] Taizhina, Kuzbass. In the last episode, "Let Them Talk." [00:56:16] Good evening, you were running away, it turns out, from that bear [00:56:20] that was already coming to kill people, that's how it is, [00:56:24] tell me, well, it was approximately the beginning [00:56:27] of the tenth hour, I had a [00:56:30] small dog in the kiosk, well, a small dog of a certain breed, so she [00:56:34] barked. [00:57:17] got tangled in the curtains, yes, in the end, it's unknown what this was, this is [00:57:21] very close to the moment of that same [00:57:24] tourist parking lot where later the bear went and mauled Snezhana [00:57:28] Koroleva. The same day, from me, yes, he went and around [00:57:32] the bowl he killed her. Most likely the same bear, according to descriptions, they say [00:57:35] a black, black bear, the same one, similar to yours, right? So you [00:57:38] think that most likely yours, no, well, here you were lucky that you have such a construction [00:57:42] of this kiosk, right? Very strong, yes, it can withstand [00:57:46] an attack in general. Well, not for long, well, yes, it will last for an [00:57:49] hour, you're laughing, it won't last, if no, it's not about [00:57:52] that. It's just that there was a provocation here, the dog provoked [00:57:56] the bear, he rushed after it, not after the woman, he didn't need [00:57:59] her. When she picked up the dog in her arms, he realized that his [00:58:03] prey was being taken by another, so to speak, bear. That's why he [00:58:06] provoked him. If there had been no dog, there would have been no provocation, [00:58:10] he might not have approached the woman at all, and also the dog's side is [00:58:14] usually indicators, that is, dogs often protect from... [01:00:17] who was guarding the timber warehouse there, was mauled [01:00:20] by a bear, despite the fact that, despite the fact [01:00:23] that he was, it turned out, a dog, as it turned out. So, [01:00:27] the bear went, then he jumped [01:00:30] over the hill, and that is, in this way, the hunter was following [01:00:34] the tracks of the dog that he had killed, he had mauled [01:00:37] his dog, and he, so to speak, when he was following his tracks, that [01:00:41] is, he left his tracks and jumped over the hill and thus ambushed him, that [01:00:45] is, he, so to speak, tore his skull and he... couldn't even [01:00:49] reach the wagoner, that is, this is how a person, but that's not the point. The point is that [01:00:53] then, when they came after him the next day, they were stalking [01:00:57] this bear, that is, armed, they were sitting, at exactly 12:00 at night, he [01:01:00] jumped on this minibus, on the windshield, the two people who were in the front [01:01:04] seat, they held this windshield with their hands and feet from the other [01:01:08] side, it turns out, that is, when they realized that something needed [01:01:11] to be done, that the bear could push through the windshield, that is, since they had a shotgun with [01:01:14] a twelfth gauge, they slightly opened the door of the minibus, and his [01:01:18] paw was already in the cabin, they shot [01:01:22] the barrel of the twelfth gauge at this bear, then they [01:01:26] left for the night and came back in the morning additionally, they took carbines [01:01:29] and people and looked, this bear ran another 50 meters, [01:01:33] and despite the fact that we hit his heart, that is, he still had enough strength to run 50 [01:01:36] meters, a super predator, simply, yes, I can also say [01:01:40] from my own [01:01:42] experience and from my history, that 10 years ago in the Katanga district, [01:01:46] there were 1500... hunters, professionals, trappers, and [01:01:50] today there are only 300 amateurs left, [01:01:53] and let's say, when there was bear hunting in winter, [01:01:56] it's forbidden now, it gave hunters [01:02:00] the opportunity to earn money and regulate the population, that [01:02:03] is, these bears. Today, this hunting is cancelled, [01:02:07] each female bear, that is, gives birth to two or three bear [01:02:10] cubs every year, and when he comes out, that is, after 2 years, [01:02:14] she releases them into the wild, he must either defeat the bear [01:02:18] that is in this territory, or take over his territory. If this does not [01:02:21] happen, this year is the smallest cedar harvest in 5 [01:02:25] years, but a large harvest, that is, of bird cherry, sea buckthorn, and [01:02:28] rowan berries, so the bear comes out... [01:03:30] everywhere, they perfectly collect berries in our [01:03:34] gardens, they collect apples well there, and if [01:03:37] you bother them, then they, that is, you can somehow scare them away, but you know, it feels [01:03:41] like they have stopped being afraid. [01:03:45] He made himself a nice bed, he [01:03:48] sleeps there, he dug up half the garden, you look at the [01:03:52] trees, he rests there during the day, we already gave him the harvest, [01:03:55] we generally don't go. I have a similar [01:03:59] story. Each of us has our own bear, it's not the same [01:04:02] bear, there are different bears at each [01:04:05] dacha, so we already know when my bear is coming, from which [01:04:09] side he is coming, the dogs bark, and I [01:04:12] already pack up and leave the dacha. In addition, I have [01:04:16] a metal door, well, a regular metal door, [01:04:20] an entrance door, so it's all covered in claw [01:04:23] marks. Marina Kazarkina is now joining [01:04:27] us from her village. [01:04:30] Hello, has anything changed since our [01:04:33] meeting? Hello, each of us has our own [01:04:36] bear, everything [01:04:38] is the same. [01:04:40] Well, no, of course, after your broadcast, [01:04:44] we have seen some progress, albeit small, but [01:04:47] progress. The Investigative Committee of Kemerovo [01:04:51] Oblast has started an investigation, they [01:04:54] declared an emergency [01:04:57] situation, [01:04:59] heightened. Thank God, they stopped turning off the lights at night [01:05:03] to save electricity in the village. Lights are [01:05:06] now on at night in the streets, [01:05:10] but unfortunately, not the whole village. lit, the private [01:05:13] sector we have is without light, and many people [01:05:16] abandon their homes, rent apartments in the center of the village, [01:05:20] because it's scary to walk from private sectors, [01:05:24] but the specific bears that were talked about and that evicted [01:05:27] your neighbors from their homes, have they at least... been somehow isolated, [01:05:31] has the situation been resolved somehow? You know, there are fewer [01:05:34] bears, to be honest, they, either they stopped [01:05:38] coming out to people so brazenly, yes, there are fewer of them, but we also [01:05:42] noticed that we have gamekeepers appearing, as if they [01:05:45] walk, check, set up ambushes, well, they started [01:05:49] to control it a little, thank goodness. [01:05:52] Well, it's good that there's good news from there, we wish you [01:05:55] that at some point when hibernation starts, you completely forget for a while [01:06:00] at least about this invasion of bears, but again, [01:06:03] this is not just a Russian story, it's a global story, Tager, these could be [01:06:07] viruses or some kind of parasites after all, ah, of course, [01:06:10] they could be, I wanted to comment on these three versions: biological weapons, [01:06:14] viruses, magnetic field, we know many examples [01:06:17] in biology when a parasite or virus changes [01:06:20] behavior, often so that the animal stops [01:06:23] fearing its predator, comes out to it, and the parasite can then spread along the food [01:06:27] chain, but here... because of such [01:06:31] a large-scale mass problem, I don't see that it's one isolated [01:06:35] outbreak, yes, it's some kind of pandemic, as they say in panzate, that is, [01:06:38] my friends from America also write to me, there are twice [01:06:42] as many 911 calls about bear attacks, they are already breaking into [01:06:46] cities, but there they have smaller guns, they are bigger, yes, it's easier for them, and [01:06:50] the bears are a little different, in America there are many small bears, [01:06:53] who are not such super predators, as you say, yes, here [01:06:56] try to oppose something to him about biological. [01:07:12] Look, before, I don't know, in the Middle Ages, they used to throw cow carcasses over walls with trebuchets, that's how they [01:07:15] fought. Now we have genome editing technology, we have artificial intelligence that allows us to do all this quite accurately, so who knows what they are researching in all these [01:07:19] secret laboratories around the world. And biological [01:07:22] weapons are very easy to unleash, but they cannot be [01:07:25] controlled afterward. That's a big problem, and [01:07:29] there is... [01:08:12] As soon as he recovers, we are waiting for him in our studio. [01:08:15] To everyone, everyone have strength, if you [01:08:19] suddenly live where there are bears, read again all [01:08:22] the recommendations of specialists, they, I must say honestly, [01:08:25] are different, but everyone who lives where there are [01:08:29] bears should know them. 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