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[00:00:00] We had elections with masks.
[00:00:03] issue, that the goal of There was a drought, it was almost the third or fourth year
[00:00:06] of drought. There was a war, there was an earthquake,
[00:00:09] meaning in all these circumstances,
[00:00:14] We saw, I mean, in problem. My colleagues in the government took responsibility. The criterion for evaluating government work is two-fold:
[00:00:16] how it faced the crisis and how it implemented its government program.
[00:00:22] Moroccans are tired of deception and I will give some figures that are very
[00:00:23] was on the shelves for almost 18 important. There are
[00:00:26] 24 million
[00:00:29] am talking about 17 times this Moroccans who have Do your work." This health protection.
[00:00:33] Sabah, she said it is difficult to pronounce, it is also difficult to Among these 24 million, 10
[00:00:36] and a half million have guaranteed health insurance, meaning the state
[00:00:39] covers and pays for their expenses.
[00:00:42] 4 million Moroccan
[00:00:45] I see this political support for banks, and it was mentioned in families receive direct support every month. Every month they receive
[00:00:49] this, which wasn't the case before. 45 million
[00:00:52] dirhams was the cost of social dialogue, which tripled
[00:00:57] As for what came out of in the year 2021. I will give you,
[00:01:00] Mr. Ghayyat, the figure of 8 and a half million Moroccans who are
[00:01:04] outside health coverage. This
[00:01:06] figure is circulated by the opposition and the parliamentary
[00:01:09] opposition. I am talking to you
[00:01:13] sector is moving in with the figures of the constitutional institutions. The institution,
[00:01:16] I am not here. I am talking to you with official figures.
[00:01:21] work. Today, this sector is not The official figures are before us. Therefore, the 1000 dirhams
[00:01:24] that was a net increase for public sector employees. All public
[00:01:27] sector employees received a net increase of 1000 dirhams.
[00:01:30] 340 billion dirhams in public investment.
[00:01:34] Brothers, sister Sabah,
[00:01:36] they the ones who will work to help these efforts on these figures
[00:01:39] means you are ready to defend them in the upcoming election campaign before
[00:01:43] us left from the Moroccan public opinion and before it. And we are not saying that we succeeded in
[00:01:47] that were set were to increase effort to reconsider their everything. We do not claim perfection. These
[00:01:48] structure, their performance, and their figures, who will adopt them? The National Rally of Independents alone, or with
[00:01:52] the Authenticity and Modernity Party and Al-Istiqlal? There are
[00:01:56] differing views on this issue
[00:01:58] residents, and to save The majority in the government, I mean, not in at the Authenticity and Modernity Party and at the Istiqlal Party. We take responsibility
[00:02:04] and at the same time maintaining as a government and we are ready to defend this as a party. I mean, this outcome is the outcome of
[00:02:07] the government. The government takes responsibility. The outcome of
[00:02:09] It should be in schools, in the government defends it. The government
[00:02:11] universities, in administrations, in defends it, or the parliamentarian
[00:02:13] factories, in companies. defends it? The outcome of the government defends it. The government
[00:02:16] that defends it, why should the parliament defend it?
[00:02:20] do we import The government is supposed to
[00:02:22] in vegetables? I mean, what we import from come and defend its figures and explain them. If indeed
[00:02:24] you form, you form the majority and speak on behalf of the government,
[00:02:28] Mr. Ghayyat, I mean these are figures. I speak on behalf of,
[00:02:33] in this? No, this first, a member of the political we entered into reforming bureau of the Rally of Independents party, and at the same time, it
[00:02:37] adopted these
[00:02:39] he enters, we will give him an increase to figures. Mr. Ghayyat, comment on these figures. The opposition has commented
[00:02:42] on them repeatedly here on more than one occasion.
[00:02:46] Ghayyat. I know this is But I mean, these figures that we are hearing today, perhaps we are hearing them for the first
[00:02:49] time. I mean, we would like
[00:02:52] that there are parties from you to react to the discussion and the discourse of the opposition,
[00:02:56] which says that today unemployment has gone from 13 to 9.
[00:03:00] How did this happen in this last year? I mean, this
[00:03:04] inflation has dropped to less than 0.5%. How was it handled
[00:03:07] in this last year, while the
[00:03:10] opposition's figures are figures that all say
[00:03:13] that the government has not fulfilled its commitments included in
[00:03:16] the government program?
[00:03:19] I mean, it criticizes a number
[00:03:21] belittling is prevalent in of issues that we will return to one by one throughout these
[00:03:24] five years. Mr. Abdullah, I am talking to you with figures from
[00:03:28] constitutional institutions.
[00:03:31] What does the opposition say? I am telling you today, if the HCP
[00:03:34] tells you this is what's available and that's what's available, the Planning Commission, these
[00:03:38] are indeed figures
[00:03:41] party for five years. issued by a constitutional institution,
[00:03:42] in speaking but now they are going to stir up independent. No, no, just
[00:03:45] how did it go from 13 to 9? I mean, a period of time,
[00:03:48] I mean, we are talking about a figure,
[00:03:53] I mean, of two sections. This shows that the national economy
[00:03:56] is a recovering economy, and all the reforms that have been
[00:04:00] carried out today have begun to yield this. This means that you will
[00:04:03] enter the next phase in explaining the political or electoral discourse with these figures,
[00:04:07] with these new figures announced
[00:04:09] and good. On the contrary, this is healthy in by the High Commission for Planning. You don't think,
[00:04:13] for example, Abdullah, that the opposition has figures, has
[00:04:17] Its national council president other interpretations, and has down the laws for this a point of view regarding these figures? No,
[00:04:21] Sabah, a great effort was made in the opposition has, I mean, other sources. I think
[00:04:24] we all resort to the figures given to us by constitutional
[00:04:27] institutions, even though there was
[00:04:30] you asked me about the party. I told you about a kind of tension between the institution
[00:04:32] and the government during the time of Mr. Halimi, when he was
[00:04:36] responsibility for this specific issue, this president of this institution. Now, I am not going to get into that discussion with you. I
[00:04:41] that 90% of elite that benefits from this am telling you today that these are figures. Do we trust
[00:04:43] shown a desire constitutional institutions or do we not? Today, these
[00:04:46] figures have been released, and they
[00:04:49] billion, which is difficult to are figures that are based on a scientific
[00:04:52] methodology. We even saw how the report was written. So, these
[00:04:56] figures, we are proud of them and we cherish them. You talked
[00:05:01] about unemployment. We can also talk about this
[00:05:04] of Independents. First, there was not unemployment problem. We can elaborate on it.
[00:05:05] level. But in the Of course, we will come to it. Look, this
[00:05:08] issue of unemployment has many factors.
[00:05:11] In the field of employment, there are three
[00:05:14] stakeholders: there is the company,
[00:05:17] I will tell you why there is change, there is the company,
[00:05:21] there are the university and vocational
[00:05:24] training institutions, and there are intermediary institutions.
[00:05:28] Today, the effort that the government made with
[00:05:31] the company, the investment charter law,
[00:05:36] years. The government released it, and I was
[00:05:39] the head of the parliamentary group. How we fought to get all
[00:05:43] the laws of that charter out. The procedures,
[00:05:46] almost every month, a set of simplified procedures
[00:05:49] is released so that the company can operate. We have one
[00:05:53] problem in the issue of
[00:05:57] the speech of His Majesty the King. Therefore, banks must
[00:05:59] play their role in supporting the national
[00:06:03] economy. The second point, I will complete it for you. We come to
[00:06:06] the training institutions, whether at the level of
[00:06:09] vocational training or at the university level. They must make an effort
[00:06:13] to bridge the gap between the demand in the labor
[00:06:16] market and the training they provide. And if we go
[00:06:20] to the intermediary institutions, there is a problem. No, the vocational
[00:06:23] training institution, today, I see that this
[00:06:25] this direction. The issue today is that its
[00:06:29] role is crucial to support the government in its
[00:06:33] playing its role. I will continue with
[00:06:36] the professor. I will go to the intermediary institutions, which
[00:06:40] are the ANAPEC. Today, we have employment consultants,
[00:06:44] approximately between 400 and 600 consultants. Are
[00:06:48] this sector move forward? I don't think so. Therefore, neither the vocational
[00:06:52] training sector nor the intermediary sector
[00:06:56] needs to make an
[00:07:01] work. Well, since you brought up vocational training, there is that figure
[00:07:05] of three, between 15 and 24 years old, of
[00:07:09] Moroccans who are neither studying nor working. I mean, there is no
[00:07:12] framework that we can put in place for
[00:07:15] this category, which is the category that
[00:07:18] can be productive.
[00:07:26] I mean, how do you see this category, from
[00:07:29] 15 to 24 years old, who are neither studying nor working?
[00:07:32] Indeed, we cannot leave this segment aside.
[00:07:36] We must work on it, and we saw that this issue of Ceuta is part of
[00:07:39] these people. Therefore, these public
[00:07:43] institutions must fulfill their duty. Therefore,
[00:07:46] they are vocational training institutions
[00:07:50] and intermediary institutions that mediate between the employing
[00:07:53] sectors and the institutions of a government sector with you in the government, Mr.
[00:07:58] the diagnosis of Mr. Ghayyat. First, he is throwing the ball into
[00:08:01] the court of a government sector from another party, your ally,
[00:08:05] Abdullah. I am discussing with you as a Moroccan
[00:08:08] citizen and a political actor, a member of the political bureau. I
[00:08:11] have nothing against it. On the contrary, anything that gets fixed
[00:08:14] gets fixed for the country. On the contrary, let's
[00:08:17] look at five years with a perspective, I mean, let's look a little
[00:08:20] in the rearview mirror. Five years. We are now
[00:08:24] at the finish line. I mean, five years ago, there were
[00:08:28] big political discussions regarding
[00:08:31] the current majority. We started by using
[00:08:34] money in elections. Then we came to the issue of abuse of power. Then
[00:08:38] a number of issues emerged, including conflicts of interest,
[00:08:41] corruption, and many
[00:08:45] criticisms that the opposition directed at you. But on the other hand,
[00:08:49] we saw the majority somewhat reserved
[00:08:54] out, interacting, and confronting what the opposition
[00:08:58] criticizes in these matters that happened in these five
[00:09:01] years. Was
[00:09:04] the majority well aware?
[00:09:08] Did you not give importance to these
[00:09:11] discussions? I mean, how did you spend these five
[00:09:14] years? The issues, and some of them we will talk about
[00:09:18] in detail. No problem. Look, Mr. Abd
[00:09:20] Allah, in this five-year period,
[00:09:24] the majority was working.
[00:09:27] The opposition was talking. I followed and I followed
[00:09:30] your episodes and I listened and I saw this
[00:09:33] opposition talking, but it didn't present any alternative. And I am ready
[00:09:37] with you today to talk to you with all frankness about those issues that they
[00:09:41] are discussing, and we dealt with them wisely and soberly, and we
[00:09:44] did not let the political discourse descend to that level they were discussing
[00:09:48] with. Okay. Let's go through the issues
[00:09:51] one by one, Mr. Ghayyat, and you have, until now,
[00:09:56] to discuss them. Let's go to the support of 13
[00:10:01] pronounce, 13 billion dirhams,
[00:10:04] which the government improved. Let's take it from this aspect
[00:10:08] and give this explanation. It provided support to importers
[00:10:12] of sheep so that meat prices would not reach an exorbitant
[00:10:17] end, we are shocked that the results were not
[00:10:21] what the government hoped for. And Mr. Lekjaa
[00:10:24] perhaps the parliament confirmed this
[00:10:28] the support did not reach the results that the government
[00:10:31] desired. And this significantly
[00:10:34] affected the parties forming the government,
[00:10:37] all three of them. What is your share of this issue, Mr. Ghayyat,
[00:10:41] as a party? First, Professor Sabah, I am
[00:10:44] surprised when I hear that 13 billion
[00:10:48] dirhams is non-existent. It is non-existent. We heard many figures. No,
[00:10:51] look, I
[00:10:54] figure, Abdullah. I am giving you,
[00:10:58] calculate. It is difficult to calculate. I will give you the real
[00:11:01] figure. The budget support
[00:11:05] for the import of sheep. Now you
[00:11:08] will correct the figure. I will correct the figure for you. I am giving you the figure that
[00:11:12] came out of the state budget. That 13
[00:11:16] billion dirhams, they got it from the fragmented
[00:11:19] political discourses.
[00:11:22] the state budget, it is 400
[00:11:28] 430 million dirhams over two years. This
[00:11:32] is an official figure that you should see in a public media institution.
[00:11:36] We shouldn't be passing this 13 billion.
[00:11:39] I
[00:11:42] call it fabrication.
[00:11:46] This is like the 17 billion dirhams they said about the fuel report.
[00:11:50] If you go into that report, there is no 17 billion. I will go back.
[00:11:53] I will go back to you. That 17 billion dirhams that was mentioned in the fuel
[00:11:57] report was mentioned in the corridors. The committee chairman said it to the press and it
[00:12:00] remained. No one checked
[00:12:04] if that 17 billion dirhams
[00:12:06] existed. It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. Where did these people get it from, Mr. Ghayyat? We have
[00:12:10] spent years now since 2023, and we have been discussing this
[00:12:13] 17 billion dirhams, and we discussed it with 17 or 13. 17 billion
[00:12:17] dirhams. I can tell you figures larger than 17 billion
[00:12:20] dirhams.
[00:12:23] the parliamentarians. I am giving you the official
[00:12:26] figure. It is 430 dirhams,
[00:12:30] 430 million, 430 million dirhams that
[00:12:33] went to support livestock imports. And the government
[00:12:37] did it with good intentions. Did this support work? I
[00:12:40] will go with you. Did it reach its goal? I will tell you. Did it
[00:12:44] help us control the price level, especially in the meat
[00:12:48] sector? Look, look, that
[00:12:50] 430
[00:12:53] million dirhams was for supporting the purchasing power of
[00:12:57] Moroccan citizens. The government acted
[00:12:59] in good faith. Up until now, this problem that occurred is that
[00:13:02] that operation was not affected. It was not affected legally, or
[00:13:06] were there violations?
[00:13:09] If there were no violations, because if we had enacted
[00:13:12] the law and exceeded the law, we would say there were violations. The opposition, people say
[00:13:17] the majority and from your party
[00:13:20] who benefited from this
[00:13:22] support. Who specifically?
[00:13:28] I asked those I knew, there was one who was not
[00:13:31] only from the National Rally of Independents. There were people,
[00:13:34] but this, I think, even the discussion about this is
[00:13:38] just this. Even a parliamentarian
[00:13:42] is a citizen. There was a procedure, what matters is
[00:13:45] the results. The results did not reach, and that person who benefited is no longer
[00:13:48] with us in the party. He left. I mean, he is no longer
[00:13:52] with us. Why didn't the results reach? Because
[00:13:56] the operation was not effective. I will be honest with you.
[00:13:59] Today, the Ministry of Agriculture's role is to provide
[00:14:03] the product. But the one who should oversee marketing is
[00:14:07] the Ministry of Trade and Industry. I sat with the Minister of Trade.
[00:14:10] You heard him talking to you, and I told him, Mr. Minister, there is a problem. Mr.
[00:14:14] Mezzour, Mr. Mezzour, I told him, did you say
[00:14:17] you had it? He said I had it. I told him, good.
[00:14:21] Why? Why didn't you fight it? He said I need to change the law. And what
[00:14:25] are we going to do? The government will prepare the law, and we as a parliament will pass it and fight this,
[00:14:28] and protect Morocco. We will protect that honest, clean farmer who
[00:14:32] works, and we will protect the Moroccan citizen. Do you want us to tell the truth?
[00:14:35] This issue of fragmented political discourse, Mr. Ghayyat, leads us to the issue of these words.
[00:14:39] The word "fragmented" is a bit media-wise, what is known
[00:14:41] media-wise, Mr. Ghayyat, the Green Morocco Plan.
[00:14:45] Yes, we are in the Green Generation. We made progress in the Green Generation, but
[00:14:49] today there are many criticisms from here and there,
[00:14:53] always from the opposition to you, as
[00:14:55] a government and as the National Rally of Independents, in managing the issue
[00:14:59] of the Green Morocco Plan, and that it created a partisan
[00:15:04] public program. Because
[00:15:08] the Rally had the portfolio of agriculture
[00:15:11] and the ministry because the party was the previous
[00:15:14] one. This issue
[00:15:18] has been resolved. There are many plans. No one
[00:15:21] discusses the water plan. What was done in it? No one talks
[00:15:25] about why this Green Morocco Plan has been so criticized. Because
[00:15:29] there are those who are targeted in it. This is one thing. Two, I will
[00:15:32] surprise you. That exploratory mission
[00:15:35] of the Green Morocco Plan. Who requested it? I
[00:15:39] was the head of the team, and I sat with the Minister of Agriculture and told him that I had
[00:15:42] a problem with my colleagues. Is there a problem
[00:15:46] with it? He told me I have no
[00:15:49] the majority, in the majority, we were watching. Where did
[00:15:52] its report reach? Listen.
[00:15:55] Let me finish. I am the one who requested that mission.
[00:15:59] When I told him, "Is this a problem for you if we do it?" He told me, "I have no problem.
[00:16:04] minister told us, "Do your work." I am the one who requested it. Even the letter
[00:16:08] was written in my office. And we submitted it, and
[00:16:11] the presidency was given to the Istiqlal Party, Mr. Madiyen,
[00:16:14] and the rapporteurship
[00:16:16] was taken by the Justice and Development Party, Mr. Sikr. And I was the deputy. I
[00:16:20] was the head of the team and I took the deputy position just so that everything would be structured so that the truth
[00:16:24] would reach Moroccans as it is. We shouldn't exaggerate
[00:16:27] about this. You in media institutions like this should
[00:16:30] also go and search for the truth. But there is communication
[00:16:34] within the government. The truth,
[00:16:38] or Mr. Madiyen, the presidency of the committee. We had two
[00:16:42] or three meetings. We prepared our working
[00:16:45] method. His seat was lost. He lost the district of
[00:16:48] Al Hoceima. We kept waiting. The Istiqlal Party, which was given
[00:16:51] the presidency, we kept waiting for it. We did not receive the name until
[00:16:54] recently when it was given. And the mission has started, but
[00:16:58] the parliament stopped and did not complete its mission. Its work
[00:17:02] on this issue of the Morocco plan was not well
[00:17:05] communicated. I can, I took data. When I
[00:17:09] brought it, I knew you were going to bring it up. I knew you were going to bring it up.
[00:17:13] I brought. When I sat down, I saw what the goals were that
[00:17:16] we set. The Green Morocco Plan, and I will give you
[00:17:20] other data. When I went to Africa and saw it, the goals
[00:17:25] the agricultural GDP from 60 to 90 billion dirhams, to increase
[00:17:29] exports by 44 billion dirhams, to double the income of three
[00:17:33] million rural
[00:17:36] water by 20 to 50% of irrigation water.
[00:17:40] We are living through this, but it went to exports. Products consume
[00:17:43] water. What consumes water? Products consume
[00:17:47] water, meaning they require water for irrigation. I mean, Professor Sabah, we export
[00:17:50] 500 million. All of this that is exported is 500
[00:17:53] million cubic meters. How much
[00:17:59] abroad is 9 billion cubic meters. What
[00:18:03] do we export? And we must export because we need foreign currency
[00:18:07] and we need that sector because your food
[00:18:10] security is being worked on from all aspects.
[00:18:13] And I will add that the result is that exports tripled.
[00:18:17] Two million,
[00:18:20] 7 farmers benefited from support, from
[00:18:24] training, and from the aggregation of agricultural land. We saved
[00:18:27] two billion cubic meters of irrigation water,
[00:18:30] and the agricultural GDP rose to
[00:18:32] 118 billion
[00:18:35] dirhams. It comes
[00:18:54] out that the discourse of despair and
[00:18:59] the country. Therefore, this must stop, and how will it stop?
[00:19:02] It will stop by us coming here and speaking the truth, because
[00:19:06] it is a problem. We welcome it. What
[00:19:09] about COVID? The borders were
[00:19:12] closed. Three years of drought. Did we import anything?
[00:19:16] Nothing. That is the biggest
[00:19:19] evaluation of the Green Moroccan Plan. That's it. Okay.
[00:19:23] We will go, Mr. Ghayyat, because time
[00:19:26] is
[00:19:29] racing against us. Is the governmental majority
[00:19:32] currently in a phase of harmony or electoral competition? I think it started
[00:19:36] early, this issue, because now every party
[00:19:40] sees the finish line or the end
[00:19:43] of the last meters. This is normal
[00:19:47] the country. Meaning that there are some, for example,
[00:19:50] let's give an example of the Authenticity and Modernity Party.
[00:19:55] at the party's gathering, Najat Kobous, said
[00:19:59] Najwa said that
[00:20:02] the PAM has no connection
[00:20:05] to the "Forsa" project or the "Forsa" employment program.
[00:20:08] I mean, they disavowed this. I mean, they don't take
[00:20:14] issue which is the project led by the Minister of Tourism,
[00:20:17] Mrs. Ammor. I cannot respond to this. I think
[00:20:21] it's just wrong. Listen, Mrs. Sabah,
[00:20:24] we were together in this government majority,
[00:20:28] and we must continue to defend this record until the last moment. As for
[00:20:32] political outbidding, for us to start disavowing responsibilities, that's not reasonable. I think
[00:20:35] this is irresponsible rhetoric. We have reached
[00:20:38] today, I mean, time has brought us closer to the election period,
[00:20:41] Mr. Ghayyat. The three allies in the current
[00:20:45] majority, today there is a discussion,
[00:20:48] I mean, between its three poles.
[00:20:52] I want to give you two points, Mr. Ghayyat, and interact with me on them.
[00:20:55] The first, I mean, we saw the Istiqlal Party talking about
[00:20:59] conflicts of interest and fighting corruption.
[00:21:04] the political market, I mean,
[00:21:07] those who joined political parties, and at their head
[00:21:11] was Mr. Fouzi Lekjaa, who joined the Authenticity and Modernity Party.
[00:21:15] And the answer came, I am from Dakhla, on the tongue of the National Rally of Independents in
[00:21:18] a campaign speech by Mr. Aziz Akhannouch.
[00:21:22] Today, how does the National Rally of Independents
[00:21:26] view what is circulating in the political arena, from movements, from
[00:21:30] transformations, and from speeches from
[00:21:33] its allies?
[00:21:35] and electoral competition
[00:21:39] as a legitimate matter, but it needs a little
[00:21:42] bit of decorum, a little bit of political
[00:21:46] elegance in this. This is what happened in Dakhla. I know what you are
[00:21:50] referring to. The speech of Mr. Aziz Akhannouch. Aziz Akhannouch is a responsible man, a man
[00:21:53] of state, and what he said, he said it knowing what he was saying.
[00:21:57] He talked about the political market. If the political market
[00:22:01] is done in politically acceptable ways, we have no problem.
[00:22:04] On the contrary, every citizen, every political actor has the right to choose
[00:22:08] the political expression they want to go for and feel comfortable with and find their aspirations
[00:22:12] there. But for there to be unacceptable practices
[00:22:16] politically in this center, and this is not reasonable. What is unacceptable, Mr. Ghayyat? I am not going to.
[00:22:20] Look, now you see the political market as just a screen. This one moved from here
[00:22:23] to here. But if you went in and did the wiring and knew what was happening,
[00:22:27] unacceptable things. You didn't receive any in this political market?
[00:22:30] No, we, on the contrary, whoever left
[00:22:33] the surplus. As for us, we worked throughout
[00:22:37] five years. We qualified our elite. We went
[00:22:40] to our districts and we maintained it. I talked to you
[00:22:44] earlier that even renewal, we have approximately
[00:22:48] 38, 38%.
[00:22:50] We focused on renewal
[00:22:54] experience, because to be a parliamentarian, I mean, almost the same political elite,
[00:22:57] not exactly the same. Almost 40% we have. We kept 60% and
[00:23:00] 40%. Let me clarify. 60%
[00:23:04] is not a big number for renewing elites.
[00:23:07] Well, 40% renewal is not easy.
[00:23:10] Therefore, we, that experience
[00:23:13] that we had, I was the head of the team. We had an excellent
[00:23:16] team in all aspects. Let me finish. And these people
[00:23:20] were trained. Are you going to abandon them
[00:23:23] accumulation, we must preserve it because that's how we build. First, do you have
[00:23:27] great confidence that this elite that will run for
[00:23:31] parliament, I mean, is capable of
[00:23:35] confirming positive results for the party? We are confident, God
[00:23:38] willing, because these people have popular support
[00:23:41] and are in constant communication with citizens. Therefore, I think
[00:23:45] that they will maintain their seats, and even the new people
[00:23:48] we brought in.
[00:24:13] No, on the contrary, look, Mr. Abd
[00:24:16] Allah, if there is any political
[00:24:20] party that has been wronged today, it is the National Rally of Independents. Where
[00:24:24] is the injustice? I will tell you. I followed
[00:24:27] the performance of the government members from the
[00:24:31] I followed our parliamentarians and our leaders.
[00:24:35] They work honestly, Mr. Abdullah. But
[00:24:38] it was, Sabah, for God's sake, this
[00:24:43] party that in 2021, Moroccans voted for
[00:24:47] it with their elders and youth.
[00:24:50] And they gave it first place and it headed the government. Will it
[00:24:53] deceive Moroccans? This is not right.
[00:24:57] Be sure, Mr. Abdullah, be sure, Sabah, the work
[00:25:01] done by the party is a tremendous work, a national work, and it deserves
[00:25:04] respect within the government. Meaning that the other parties,
[00:25:08] I mean the Authenticity and Modernity Party and the Istiqlal
[00:25:11] Party, come in a rank, meaning they performed
[00:25:14] their role properly in the framework of the majority. They were good
[00:25:17] people who worked, but now
[00:25:20] the party. I am convinced that the performance of
[00:25:23] our party was an outstanding performance. I will go with you to these
[00:25:27] sectors that we took, education and health, which is
[00:25:30] the one that has a political cost. We chose them. We wanted
[00:25:34] to, because the national interest remains above all else. And I will go into the details of
[00:25:38] these sectors, because there are things that Moroccans need
[00:25:41] to know. But there was a period of
[00:25:44] strikes in the education sector and the health sector that left
[00:25:47] a, I mean, an unfavorable impression. For the government, for
[00:25:51] the National Rally
[00:25:54] good communication on
[00:25:57] this issue, neither in education nor in health.
[00:26:00] And the issue was related to social bets more
[00:26:04] than they are bets on the status of
[00:26:07] male and female teachers and
[00:26:09] medical students specifically. Professor
[00:26:13] Sabah, I will get back to you. I will go to the education sector. Let's go slowly and increase
[00:26:17] the purchasing power of Moroccans. Moroccans
[00:26:20] know the facts as they are. I told you,
[00:26:24] books. Today we need to tell them. Let's take the education
[00:26:27] sector. The education sector, on the day we took
[00:26:31] over the sector,
[00:26:33] we found 130 thousand contract workers
[00:26:37] on the streets. On the streets. Moroccan children
[00:26:41] were not studying. Moroccan children were not
[00:26:44] studying. I was the head of the committee that
[00:26:47] prepared the report that
[00:26:50] was submitted to His Majesty the King. I am a member of the Supreme Council for Education
[00:26:53] and Training, and I headed the committee and prepared the report that was submitted to His Majesty
[00:26:57] the King. And I had the opportunity to review
[00:27:00] all the reports that were written. The sector from international
[00:27:04] institutions confirmed success.
[00:27:07] I went up
[00:27:09] and shook the file. I went to the president, Mr. Habib
[00:27:12] El Malki, may God heal him. I told him, Mr. Habib, this is
[00:27:16] what
[00:27:19] he said when he was the Minister of Education. He told me that this is what God has given. He said,
[00:27:22] Oh, what I ask of you is to
[00:27:25] continue this reform that you have brought. I will give you two
[00:27:28] indicators, two, and the Moroccans must know them. The indicator
[00:27:33] in that PISA report of
[00:27:37] 2022, meaning the report was done for the past period,
[00:27:41] almost 63% of Moroccan
[00:27:44] children in the fifth grade don't know
[00:27:48] how to form a meaningful sentence.
[00:27:51] I'll add to that the school dropout rate, which is a large percentage of school dropouts
[00:27:55] we have. Listen, professor, we have 12,000 educational
[00:27:58] institutions, 5,000 of which are not connected to the internet.
[00:28:06] I'll give you another report.
[00:28:09] A student we have at the baccalaureate level
[00:28:13] compared to a student in Turkey. A student in
[00:28:16] Turkey, meaning the report shows that
[00:28:20] our student at the baccalaureate level, their
[00:28:23] level is the level of the middle
[00:28:26] school in Turkey. So, are we going to keep
[00:28:30] watching? Therefore,
[00:28:34] this sector, no matter what the cost. The day we came,
[00:28:38] we promised Moroccans that when
[00:28:42] his current salary of 2500 dirhams. The cost was five
[00:28:46] billion dirhams. I sat with Mr. Chakib Benmoussa, and he told me I came
[00:28:49] because we were in an embarrassing situation. We
[00:28:53] included it in our electoral program and entered the government to implement
[00:28:57] this. He told me I can't. The cost was five billion. He told me, what
[00:29:01] about those
[00:29:07] who are already there? How am I going to deal with them? I need to bring in contract workers. I need to reform all educational categories. All of them are affected.
[00:29:10] The cost reached 29 billion dirhams. Moroccans
[00:29:14] need to know this. Today, the sector
[00:29:17] has reached its peak of success, and it is enough
[00:29:20] for us to be proud that the President of France in Ghana
[00:29:24] stood before the Prime Minister and before the African community and told them,
[00:29:27] "You can be proud of what Morocco is doing." And this is a head of state
[00:29:31] who will not speak about, about. Let me add
[00:29:34] so we can move to other topics, because we no longer have this issue
[00:29:38] of just this. If we don't tell
[00:29:42] Moroccans today, when will we tell them? They need to know. It is very
[00:29:44] important. It was possible only for the
[00:29:47] health sector to give us some data. The health sector
[00:29:51] because it is the backbone of the discussion and the backbone
[00:29:54] of society. The health sector, everyone was
[00:29:58] saying Ramed, Ramed, Ramed. It didn't succeed.
[00:30:01] You created a Ramed system and you didn't fund it.
[00:30:05] How will this system survive? There were no
[00:30:08] appointments for nine months, seven months, a year, until the person died.
[00:30:11] This was not the case. Today, we brought
[00:30:14] a system. Do you know how much time we spent just to lay
[00:30:18] health protection project? Professor
[00:30:24] the country, and we must acknowledge it. We must
[00:30:27] acknowledge that today the Moroccan citizen
[00:30:31] has the right. If he wants to go to a public
[00:30:35] hospital, he goes. If he wants to go to a private hospital, he goes. Although there are
[00:30:39] some reservations that I heard from you
[00:30:43] the budget that goes to health goes to the private
[00:30:47] sector. That's true, but I now have a sick public
[00:30:50] sector, and I have an existing
[00:30:54] private sector. This Moroccan is sick. Should I tell him to stay
[00:30:58] sick until I finish?