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[00:00:00] she's at my home or if she's back back in the mortuary and I just want
[00:00:03] want to know. Quick answers. You You believe that he'd already been
[00:00:07] been cremated? Yeah, yeah, because because his son has got his ashes
[00:00:10] ashes and his son talks to him all
[00:00:12] all the time. Mr Bosch. What have
[00:00:15] have you got to say to the family? family? He's picked on the poor people
[00:00:18] people won't be able to afford the
[00:00:21] the £4,000 funerals. He completely completely exploited them. He tried
[00:00:24] tried to act like he was their friend, friend, like he was doing them a
[00:00:27] a favour. Like what? A reasonable,
[00:00:28] reasonable, nice guy he was. So the
[00:00:32] the volume we're talking about is
[00:00:34] is half a tonne of ashes. Some were
[00:00:37] were babies as well. All heartbreaking, heartbreaking, heart-wrenching stuff
[00:00:39] stuff that just really made you feel
[00:00:41] feel sick. Police are working to
[00:00:44] to formally identify 34 bodies they've they've removed from the premises
[00:00:48] premises of a funeral home in Hull. Hull. Now it follows calls from members
[00:00:51] members of the public over concerns
[00:00:52] concerns for the care of the deceased.
[00:01:04] deceased. It's like it's a bit of of a rough area but a tight knit
[00:01:08] knit community because everyone sticks
[00:01:10] sticks together. There is poverty, poverty, there is hardship. It is
[00:01:13] is tough and I don't think anyone's anyone's going to pretend it's not.
[00:01:16] not. But it's also people look out out for each other. They all know
[00:01:20] know their neighbours. Caring for
[00:01:22] for the bodies of lost loved ones
[00:01:24] ones was entrusted to a family business
[00:01:27] business in this community legacy legacy independent funeral directors.
[00:01:30] directors. They built up three branches
[00:01:33] branches since 2010. They even created
[00:01:35] created a makeshift chapel in an
[00:01:37] an industrial unit. The man in charge
[00:01:40] charge was undertaker Robert Bush.
[00:01:42] Bush. He was offering funerals really
[00:01:45] really cheaply and he was very charming, charming, very nice to the different
[00:01:48] different community. They're very very understanding. If they wanted wanted to pay in instalments, if
[00:01:52] if they wanted to pay in cash, nothing nothing was too much trouble. So
[00:01:55] So the service would be held within within premises the so you wouldn't
[00:01:58] wouldn't have to pay for going to to a church. And then he would take
[00:02:02] take the body to be cremated. We
[00:02:05] We know now, of course, that wasn't
[00:02:07] wasn't what he was doing. MUSIC
[00:02:18] MUSIC We We drove past legacy and we saw place
[00:02:22] place outside and be in Hessle Road
[00:02:24] Road as it is. And the crime we thought
[00:02:27] thought it was a traffic stop, but
[00:02:28] but then the next day I was scrolling
[00:02:32] scrolling on Facebook. A purse pops
[00:02:35] pops up. Humberside police say a
[00:02:38] a funeral director is being investigated investigated following a report of
[00:02:41] of concern for care of the deceased.
[00:02:44] deceased. A whistle blower had called called the police whilst Robert Bush
[00:02:48] Bush and his family were on a luxury
[00:02:50] luxury holiday abroad. Detective
[00:02:54] Detective superintendent Dale Curtis
[00:02:56] Curtis was one of the first officers
[00:02:58] officers to step inside. Death has
[00:03:01] has a certain odour and it's a specific.
[00:03:05] specific. Smell and when we're. When When we were just about to go into into the premises, that's kind of
[00:03:09] of what hit me. I knew what I was
[00:03:11] was going to go into. Strange, isn't
[00:03:13] isn't it? It was chaotic, incredibly
[00:03:16] incredibly disorganised. There were were personal possessions strewn
[00:03:19] strewn everywhere. Clear evidence
[00:03:21] evidence of human ash that was on
[00:03:25] on sides, half empty. One of the the first things we did was obviously
[00:03:28] obviously get fully briefed by the the police to find out exactly what
[00:03:31] what was going on. Keeping Emma Hardy
[00:03:34] Hardy MP fully briefed allowed her her to help worried families in the
[00:03:38] the community. The impact on this, this, on some of the officers for
[00:03:41] for what they've seen I think has
[00:03:43] has been deeply traumatising. What
[00:03:45] What did they find? They found. They
[00:03:50] They found bodies at various states
[00:03:54] states of decomposition in a in like
[00:03:58] like a warehouse. There was no refrigeration.
[00:04:02] refrigeration. I think one of the
[00:04:03] the ones that I thought was just
[00:04:07] just was described as an elderly
[00:04:10] elderly person. With a plastic sheet
[00:04:12] sheet over them and just the name
[00:04:14] name written in a biro. MUSIC
[00:04:27] MUSIC
[00:04:37] Bag just as she left it. All that
[00:04:40] that stuff inside. Have you looked
[00:04:43] looked in this before? Justin? I've
[00:04:44] I've not looked in it. I have had
[00:04:47] had a lot of glancing lipstick and and my nana's favourite lipstick.
[00:04:51] lipstick. What shade? She used to to put it on her cheeks as well,
[00:04:55] well, you know, so she'd have rosy rosy cheeks. Rosy cheeks. With her
[00:04:57] her being Polish, she'd gone a bit
[00:05:00] bit pale. 89-year-old Jessie Stockdale
[00:05:03] Stockdale had died five months earlier.
[00:05:07] earlier. Her grandchildren held her
[00:05:09] her funeral and received ashes. We
[00:05:15] We knew instantly that Melanie was
[00:05:18] was inside that building. We wasn't wasn't shocked as such because of
[00:05:22] of the experience that we had and and the condition it was keeping
[00:05:25] keeping me in the way she was being
[00:05:28] being treated but it was like knocked
[00:05:29] knocked off her feet like her worst
[00:05:32] worst fears had come true. 34 bodies
[00:05:36] bodies was found inside legacy and
[00:05:39] and one of them had an ankle bracelet
[00:05:41] bracelet with my grandma's name
[00:05:45] on. But that number was to grow. grow. Another victim was discovered
[00:05:49] discovered days after the search search began. We have now recovered
[00:05:52] recovered a total of 35 deceased
[00:05:55] deceased who have now been respectfully respectfully transported to the mortuary
[00:05:59] mortuary in Hull and formal identification identification procedures are now
[00:06:02] now taking place. The number of bodies
[00:06:08] bodies that had been discovered had
[00:06:11] had gone from 34 to 35, and at that
[00:06:14] that point I got a knot in my stomach
[00:06:18] stomach and my mum said, it's sunny
[00:06:24] sunny and we got the call from the
[00:06:27] the police the next day who said
[00:06:30] said that? We think we've found your
[00:06:35] your son in. In the funeral directors.
[00:06:42] directors. Sunny Beverley Conlin Conlin was stillborn prematurely.
[00:06:46] prematurely. Robert Bush hosted Sunny's Sunny's funeral at legacy, one of
[00:06:49] of few memories his parents have.
[00:06:53] have. This is the blanket that they they give us in the hospital. We
[00:06:56] We kept this one because this one
[00:06:58] one smells like sunny. We've got
[00:07:01] got three other children. Oh, I think think I look like me. But when sunny
[00:07:05] sunny was born, I looked at him and
[00:07:08] and I said to Ben, I went finally finally got one that looked like
[00:07:12] like you. Baby sunny was found on
[00:07:14] on the floor in a paper bag. Robert
[00:07:17] Robert Bush had kept him for almost
[00:07:19] almost two years. I am disappointed
[00:07:23] disappointed in the evil that he'd
[00:07:24] he'd committed against so many people,
[00:07:27] people, so many vulnerable people.
[00:07:30] people. And he's picked on the poor poor people, the people who aren't
[00:07:34] aren't being able to afford the £4,000
[00:07:38] £4,000 funerals. That's what he's
[00:07:42] he's done. There must have been some
[00:07:48] some reason why he did that. MUSIC
[00:07:58] MUSIC She She was like a mum to me. She did did everything for me. She brought
[00:08:01] brought me up as a child. She was
[00:08:04] was my rock. She was my giving. Then
[00:08:06] Then take him. Were there any warning
[00:08:09] warning signs at all that things things might not be right? Yeah,
[00:08:12] Yeah, there was an awful smell in
[00:08:14] in the funeral directors. My grandma grandma was changed into different
[00:08:18] different coffins every time we viewed viewed her and would obviously pick
[00:08:22] pick out a specific coffin and she
[00:08:24] she was put into larger coffins,
[00:08:29] coffins, which was wider, longer,
[00:08:30] longer, different colours, different
[00:08:33] different trims were complaining complaining because there was black black thick mould around the inside
[00:08:37] inside of the coffin as well. On
[00:08:39] On the wood, and it looked as if
[00:08:42] if the coffin had been used more
[00:08:44] more than a handful of times. Hundreds
[00:08:50] Hundreds of families had used legacy
[00:08:52] legacy for low cost funerals. They
[00:08:56] They were now chatting online and
[00:08:58] and realising their loved ones could
[00:09:01] could be involved.
[00:09:13] MUSIC
[00:09:23] Everyone was looking for answers. Everyone was frightened.
[00:09:26] frightened. Anybody who'd used the the funeral directors for the last last few years were concerned that
[00:09:30] that it could be one of their loved
[00:09:33] loved ones.
[00:09:47] Mr Robert, just stand up and come with us. That's all right please.
[00:09:49] please. Robert Bush was arrested arrested at Heathrow Airport as he
[00:09:53] he stepped off a flight from Los Los Angeles. I'm asking you at the
[00:09:55] the current time on suspicion of of preventing the lawful and decent
[00:09:58] decent burial of multiple dead bodies bodies and fraud by false representation
[00:10:01] representation and fraud by abuse abuse of position. What Robert Bush
[00:10:04] Bush was doing may never have come come to light if it wasn't for what
[00:10:08] what happened while he was away. away. I was looking after things
[00:10:11] things for about four days. He said,
[00:10:13] said, if anybody comes, just don't
[00:10:16] don't answer the door. Simple as
[00:10:18] as that. That was the what I got.
[00:10:21] got. Don't answer the door. Mr Moore
[00:10:25] Moore says he used a stretcher borrowed borrowed from another funeral service
[00:10:29] service to pick up a lady's body body from a local nursing home. Two
[00:10:33] Two men who came to retrieve the
[00:10:35] the stretcher saw inside. While I
[00:10:38] I was talking to one of them. The
[00:10:41] The other one went in the fridge.
[00:10:44] fridge. They'd seen it shouldn't
[00:10:47] shouldn't be like this. One of them
[00:10:49] them called the police. Without that
[00:10:52] that initial call to us, I kind of of fear that this would have kept
[00:10:55] kept on going. Shortly afterwards,
[00:10:57] afterwards, Mr Moore went to the the police himself. Before the point
[00:11:01] point that you went to the police, police, had you been concerned about
[00:11:04] about what was going on at legacy? legacy? What were your concerns?
[00:11:07] concerns? Just the state of everything. everything. And I could see when
[00:11:10] when I was working, Rob, I could
[00:11:12] could see there's something wrong
[00:11:15] wrong here. Robert Bush was in the
[00:11:18] the US to watch motorbike racing.
[00:11:21] racing. His expensive hobby. He'd He'd lived in the leafy village of
[00:11:25] of Kirkella, just outside of Hull.
[00:11:28] Hull. I think he was living beyond
[00:11:30] beyond his means. He put his laptop
[00:11:33] laptop in one of these places for for a couple of days to get some
[00:11:36] some money. Anything he could sell, sell, he'd sell it. Every time the
[00:11:39] the phone rang, it was like real
[00:11:42] real jumpy. He'd be getting phone phone calls and threats to be cut
[00:11:45] cut off and that for his electric.
[00:11:49] electric. And there was making his
[00:11:52] his own coffins upstairs. He used used to stay late on the night, and
[00:11:55] and then the next day you could tell tell he'd been there all night because
[00:11:58] because one minute he was all right
[00:11:59] right and the next minute. HandCrafting
[00:12:03] HandCrafting coffins was not done done out of desire. Several coffin
[00:12:07] coffin firms have told us they avoided
[00:12:09] avoided supplying legacy. They feared
[00:12:12] feared they would never be paid.
[00:12:18] paid. Legacy's debts were mounting,
[00:12:21] mounting, including for unpaid burial
[00:12:23] burial fees. But Bush was paying
[00:12:26] paying himself and his wife £200,000
[00:12:30] £200,000 a year. I don't have much.
[00:12:35] much. I don't have much sympathy
[00:12:37] sympathy for. He was struggling with with his finances. Did you ever think
[00:12:41] think about blowing the whistle on
[00:12:43] on him sooner? I had it in my head,
[00:12:47] head, but obviously it wasn't. It
[00:12:51] It was just getting worse and worse. worse. So I put I put a stop to it,
[00:12:54] it, if you know what I mean. If you've you've mentioned anything, you'd
[00:12:57] you'd always have an answer for you. you. He always he was good at that.
[00:13:00] that. Did you know there were 35
[00:13:05] 35 in the back? No, I didn't, to
[00:13:07] to be honest. And I knew of I knew
[00:13:11] knew of three. At the back which
[00:13:15] which had always been covered with
[00:13:18] with like a proper body bag. And
[00:13:20] And I used to question sort of question
[00:13:22] question it. And then he just said
[00:13:24] said to me, oh I just inherited that
[00:13:27] that them from. From who? From the
[00:13:31] the last guy who had heavenly services. services. But apparently he's dead
[00:13:35] dead now. So I don't know, but it
[00:13:38] it was like someone out of something
[00:13:41] something out of a horror movie. movie. Heavenly Services Funeral
[00:13:44] Funeral Directors was owned by Simon
[00:13:46] Simon Woolston. He was also investigated investigated by police, but charges
[00:13:50] charges were dropped when he died died in the Covid pandemic. The building
[00:13:54] building his company had occupied
[00:13:56] occupied was taken over by Robert
[00:13:58] Robert Bush. No, there's no links links between what was Heavenly Services
[00:14:02] Services before and there was a previous previous criminal investigation into
[00:14:05] into heavenly and our legacy investigation.
[00:14:08] investigation. Did you ever see him
[00:14:10] him mixing up ashes or. No, that's that's what I'm saying. I never saw
[00:14:14] saw him do anything like that. You
[00:14:17] You know, Robert Bush was the sole sole person. That ran that company.
[00:14:20] company. All the decision making making went through Robert Bush. Bush. He was the only employee there.
[00:14:24] there. Everything was controlled controlled by him. How many out of
[00:14:27] of these 30 or so bodies did the
[00:14:31] the client, the family believe that that they've been buried or cremated
[00:14:34] cremated and they are still actually actually sat within your storage
[00:14:36] storage facility? All of them. But But the venue. All of them, but the
[00:14:40] the five or maybe six. What is it
[00:14:44] it you've told their families, those those families that relate to the.
[00:14:47] the. Funerals taking place. Unfortunately,
[00:14:58] Unfortunately, given the high temperature temperature required to carry out out cremation, the DNA will have
[00:15:02] have been broken down and degraded degraded to such a level that we
[00:15:05] we are unable to attribute any of
[00:15:06] of the human ashes or identify them.
[00:15:16] them. Talking to one man and he was was saying about his wife's ashes
[00:15:20] ashes how much he loved her, and and he talks to her and her ashes
[00:15:23] ashes are there and she's still in in his home. And the utter heartbreak
[00:15:26] heartbreak he felt at the fact that
[00:15:29] that might not be her. And there's there's no way he's ever going to
[00:15:33] to know the number of calls to victims.
[00:15:34] victims. Support went through the
[00:15:37] the roof. What I need to ask you
[00:15:40] you is have you used somebody else's else's ashes to give to another family
[00:15:43] family member to give to a different different family, to say that's your
[00:15:46] your loved one? I would say no comment.
[00:15:48] comment. Or if. You haven't done
[00:15:51] done that, what product or item is is within that urn that they believe
[00:15:55] believe is their loved one's ashes? ashes? I've never given. Ashes back
[00:15:58] back that weren't ashes. So it's
[00:16:01] it's always going to be human. Human. But that was later put in
[00:16:04] in doubt when experts said some of
[00:16:06] of the ash may be the remains of
[00:16:09] of animals. Do you feel you know know what's gone on in Robert Bush's
[00:16:11] Bush's head? I don't think anyone anyone knows what's gone on in Robert
[00:16:15] Robert Bush's head, why he's done
[00:16:18] done what he's done. Whilst officers
[00:16:22] officers focused on the investigation, investigation, the local authorities
[00:16:24] authorities were dealing with the
[00:16:26] the aftermath of Robert Bush's crimes.
[00:16:34] crimes. This is Eastern Chapel in
[00:16:36] in Hull and this is where we brought
[00:16:39] brought all the ashes that the police police gave to us from the site on
[00:16:42] on Hessle Road. And so we've brought brought them here into our chapel
[00:16:46] chapel for safekeeping. So in this
[00:16:54] this room is where we've stored the the ashes. But I'm not going to take
[00:16:58] take it in because these are people. people. These are human remains.
[00:17:01] remains. These are people's loved loved ones. So we feel it's really
[00:17:04] really important that we're going going to respect their privacy and
[00:17:08] and their dignity. So the volume
[00:17:17] volume we're talking about is half
[00:17:19] half a tonne of ashes. So that was
[00:17:23] was 167 individuals, 167 human remains. remains. Some were in a very poor
[00:17:27] poor condition, not like we would would expect loved one's ashes to
[00:17:30] to be cared for. Despite not being
[00:17:34] being able to provide scientific
[00:17:37] scientific proof, a 163 families families were linked to the ashes
[00:17:41] ashes through paperwork and labels.
[00:17:44] labels. Our aim was to repatriate repatriate as many of these ashes
[00:17:48] ashes as we possibly can to families, families, because that's what's important
[00:17:51] important to families.
[00:18:04] I actually got a phone call off the police telling me that they'd
[00:18:07] they'd found my mum's ashes, even even though we already had my mum's
[00:18:10] mum's ashes, she was the best mum mum we could have ever, ever, ever,
[00:18:13] ever, ever had. Beautiful. Really
[00:18:16] Really nice. We had them in necklaces.
[00:18:18] necklaces. We had scattered the ashes. ashes. And my brother also had, you
[00:18:22] you know, saved some for herself. herself. And then we got this phone
[00:18:25] phone call saying that they found found my mum's ashes. They couldn't
[00:18:29] couldn't test the cat, test them.
[00:18:32] them. But the 99% showed them my my mum's because they've got my mum's
[00:18:35] mum's name on them. It's been a nightmare.
[00:18:38] nightmare. It's awful. The police
[00:18:42] police had also told us that there there were some personal items or
[00:18:46] or items of jewellery, items of clothing,
[00:18:49] clothing, letters, photographs and and as local authorities and as part
[00:18:52] part of the recovery, we knew that that those items would be really
[00:18:56] really important to families. So
[00:18:57] So we engaged a specialist team.
[00:19:17] MUSIC
[00:19:18] These boxes are the remainder of
[00:19:25] of the personal effects that haven't haven't been claimed by the families
[00:19:28] families that were storing on behalf
[00:19:30] behalf of the council. We deal with
[00:19:37] with death all the time, but it's
[00:19:38] it's generally a result of some catastrophic
[00:19:41] catastrophic event that we're supporting supporting either a government agency
[00:19:45] agency or a private company. In the the case of an airline, for example, example, Grenfell Tower is an obvious
[00:19:49] obvious one. So in that we responded responded to collect, process and
[00:19:52] and return personal effects that
[00:19:54] that were left behind after the fire.
[00:19:57] fire. This is unique. We were responding responding to a disaster that was
[00:19:59] was causing an immense amount of
[00:20:01] of despair. It was intentional negligence,
[00:20:04] negligence, I'll call it that. And
[00:20:06] And just treating people's prized prized possessions in some cases
[00:20:10] cases a very sentimental items like like garbage and the remains of their
[00:20:13] their loved ones like garbage. And And that's pretty difficult to come
[00:20:17] come to terms with. It was like a
[00:20:25] a hoarder's house. There were items
[00:20:27] items that people had intended to to have buried with their loved ones,
[00:20:31] ones, for example, and that might might have been a particular flag
[00:20:34] flag that represented something to
[00:20:35] to the family, maybe clothing, trinkets.
[00:20:45] trinkets. Kenyon's forensic team team had over a thousand items to
[00:20:49] to clean, catalogue and return. They
[00:20:52] They included wedding pictures, sports
[00:20:55] sports memorabilia and love letters. letters. The relief those families
[00:20:58] families have to be able to take take back that control and to be
[00:21:01] be able to restore the dignity to to their loved one, and to be able
[00:21:04] able to send them off in, in the the way that they intended all along
[00:21:07] along is incredibly rewarding. Second,
[00:21:14] Second, funerals took place across
[00:21:16] across the city for the victims,
[00:21:19] victims, including Jasmine's baby
[00:21:20] baby Sonny Beverley. Well, we come
[00:21:24] come often. I'll just sit with him
[00:21:27] him while the kids just play on the
[00:21:32] the field. He's finally resting.
[00:21:44] resting. Robert Bush escaped being being charged with denying Sonny
[00:21:46] Sonny a decent burial because he
[00:21:48] he was still born before 24 weeks.
[00:21:53] weeks. Tristan, Essex's grandmother, grandmother, Jessie Stockdale, was
[00:21:56] was also laid to rest. Meanwhile,
[00:22:03] Meanwhile, 120 police staff worked
[00:22:05] worked on the case and the huge scale
[00:22:07] scale of Robert Bush's crimes was
[00:22:10] was becoming ever more
[00:22:15] apparent. What people started to to notice next was that they had
[00:22:18] had funeral plans with legacy. And And one of the things they wanted
[00:22:21] wanted to check was, you know, would
[00:22:23] would my funeral plan still be valid?
[00:22:26] valid? So people have been going going and paying in instalments for
[00:22:29] for these plans, believing that they they had them discovering later when
[00:22:33] when they got in touch with the company company that was named on these forms
[00:22:37] forms that the company had no information
[00:22:41] information whatsoever about the
[00:22:42] the customer. The plans never existed.
[00:22:46] existed. Everything was a fraud.
[00:22:48] fraud. These are hard working, normal
[00:22:50] normal people that have tried to
[00:22:53] to plan for their own funeral so so their families didn't have to
[00:22:56] to worry. The problem for most people
[00:23:00] people is they paid cash, so there
[00:23:03] there was no way of using fraud legislation
[00:23:05] legislation to get money back. They
[00:23:10] They came in asking us about funeral funeral plans that they had bought. bought. Were they actually legitimate?
[00:23:14] legitimate? Did they actually exist? exist? And we found in a number of
[00:23:17] of cases when we rang the funeral funeral planning company on their
[00:23:20] their behalf that the plans were
[00:23:23] were non-existent. So this is our
[00:23:27] our reception and preparation area area where we would normally bring
[00:23:31] bring deceased into our care. Concerned
[00:23:33] Concerned customers flocked to another
[00:23:36] another undertaker and former police
[00:23:39] police officer. The feelings were were very, very high. People obviously
[00:23:42] obviously very saddened by it all. all. Disbelief by it all. Robert
[00:23:45] Robert Bush had been in National National Association of Funeral Directors Directors for a period of time and
[00:23:50] and then ceased his membership for for whatever reason. So he wasn't
[00:23:52] wasn't subjected to any checks by
[00:23:55] by anybody. The shop that's next next door to me, that's empty. Here
[00:23:59] Here was a food outlet. The pizza pizza shop. And if I wanted to open
[00:24:03] open that shop tomorrow or today, today, I would have to have inspection
[00:24:06] inspection by the Environmental Health Health to meet set standards for
[00:24:08] for hygiene, etc. Yet as a funeral funeral director, I don't need to
[00:24:11] to have anything. You know, you could could start the business doing funeral
[00:24:14] funeral at this moment tomorrow.
[00:24:22] tomorrow. Some families had lost
[00:24:25] lost life savings. Is that we have
[00:24:30] have not got no name of yours. And
[00:24:33] And what I don't know I'm very angry
[00:24:39] angry about it now. I can't put the
[00:24:42] the words to it now. Losing all that
[00:24:49] that money I'm trying to. No money
[00:24:51] money in the bank to cover anything.
[00:24:56] anything. Sometime more to come out
[00:24:57] out in tears and. Rob from the police?
[00:25:04] police? Yeah, yeah yeah. All right. right. Come in, come in. Yeah. Thank
[00:25:06] Thank you. As officers found more
[00:25:09] more evidence of fraud, Bush was
[00:25:11] was re-arrested. I don't understand. understand. I've been arrested off
[00:25:14] off a plane by gunpoint. I've been been taken. You know, it's like.
[00:25:17] like. It's like I'm Che Guevara or
[00:25:20] or saying I'm not that complicated.
[00:25:25] complicated. From anger to action.
[00:25:28] action. Some families began campaigning campaigning for the funeral industry
[00:25:31] industry to be regulated. We've had had a chance to discuss what laws
[00:25:35] laws and regulations we sort of want
[00:25:36] want in place and why. Why do people
[00:25:47] people get the wrong ashes? Mr Bush? Bush? I'm sorry. What did you say?
[00:25:51] say? Sorry. I'm sorry. You're sorry? sorry? Well. As he sentenced Undertaker
[00:25:55] Undertaker Robert Bush to 20 years
[00:25:57] years in prison, the judge, Mr Justice Justice Hilliard, said that Bush
[00:26:01] Bush had caused anguish and pain
[00:26:03] pain on a scale beyond
[00:26:08] comprehension. There was a naked naked body lying on a stretcher on
[00:26:10] on the floor. Two people were lying
[00:26:14] lying on the floor of the cold room.
[00:26:17] room. Evidence of human putrefaction
[00:26:18] putrefaction was visible on the floor.
[00:26:21] floor. The defendant was so preoccupied
[00:26:23] preoccupied with his own enrichment
[00:26:25] enrichment that he behaved in a shocking
[00:26:27] shocking and disgraceful way. 20
[00:26:31] 20 years. It's going to be over in.
[00:26:34] in. No sentence was ever going to to be enough. You know it. It stood
[00:26:37] stood to reason, didn't it? I do
[00:26:41] do fear that potentially, you know, know, he will have committed further
[00:26:44] further offences that we're completely
[00:26:45] completely unaware of. I can't reassure
[00:26:48] reassure anyone that's ever had any any dealings with him that he has
[00:26:52] has acted wholly, appropriately. appropriately. I just can't, knowing
[00:26:55] knowing what he's like.
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