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[00:01:17] BBC News exploring the latest innovation and technology shaping [00:01:20] shaping our lives and with the inside [00:01:22] inside track on global trends and and advancements in the tech space [00:01:25] space today from AI and robotics [00:01:28] robotics to health, climate, transport [00:01:29] transport and gaming tech. Now. [00:01:50] We can actually fill this entire space up with qubits. That's [00:01:53] That's how we get to a million in in the palm of your hand. It's quite [00:01:57] quite heavy. It's heavier than you you would think. When everyone pushes [00:02:01] pushes you off from the start line, line, what's going to be going through through your mind? My mission is [00:02:05] is to reach the finishing line, to to be the first, to be the best. [00:02:09] best. Once we get into the vacuum vacuum of space, you switch to nuclear [00:02:13] nuclear and that will give you an [00:02:14] an exhaust speed incomparable to [00:02:17] to fire, which means half the time [00:02:19] time to Mars. It offers a giant leap [00:02:29] leap forward from today's computing, [00:02:32] computing, and it's driving one of of the biggest technology races of [00:02:36] of our time. I'm in Denmark taking [00:02:38] taking a look at quantum. And here [00:02:41] here in Longview, just outside the [00:02:43] the Danish capital, I'm getting a [00:02:45] a rare look inside Microsoft's largest [00:02:47] largest quantum lab. What has scientists [00:02:49] scientists and engineers really excited excited about quantum computing is [00:02:53] is that it has the potential to solve solve really big problems that would [00:02:57] would take conventional computers computers hundreds, thousands and [00:03:00] and even millions of years. That [00:03:03] That could open up materials, research, [00:03:05] research, drive drug discoveries [00:03:07] discoveries and speed up code breaking. [00:03:10] breaking. It's still an emerging [00:03:12] emerging technology, but some are [00:03:14] are optimistic that a quantum revolution [00:03:16] revolution could lie just ahead. We believe it's years, not [00:03:20] not decades. It's years. There's There's a great deal of new solutions [00:03:23] solutions that will come out of this this work. Microsoft's approach to [00:03:27] to quantum computing is fundamentally fundamentally different to the other [00:03:30] other tech giants. So I've come here [00:03:32] here to understand just how it works. [00:03:36] works. So this is the materials lab. lab. It's developing what's known [00:03:40] known as topological quantum computing. computing. There are several robots [00:03:43] robots here. So so it's really this [00:03:46] this UFO shaped systems. Here scientists [00:03:48] scientists are fabricating the materials [00:03:50] materials behind Microsoft's quantum [00:03:53] quantum chips and the use of AI has has speeded up development. This [00:03:57] This is really where we are growing [00:03:59] growing our semiconductor and superconductor superconductor on our wafers. Those [00:04:02] Those atoms that hit the wafer surface, [00:04:05] surface, they create this perfectly [00:04:07] perfectly crystalline material layer. [00:04:09] layer. Our computers, tablets and and phones run on code made up of [00:04:13] of bits. At its heart, a simple combinations [00:04:17] combinations of the values 0 or 1. [00:04:19] 1. But quantum computing works differently. [00:04:22] differently. Its building blocks blocks are non-binary units called [00:04:26] called qubits, formed from strings strings of one and zero. And everything [00:04:30] everything in between all at the [00:04:31] the same time, which in theory makes [00:04:34] makes data processing much, much [00:04:38] much faster. However, qubits are [00:04:41] are notoriously unstable. Welcome Welcome to Microsoft's clean room. [00:04:45] room. Making them reliable and durable [00:04:47] durable enough to do useful computations computations that are error free [00:04:51] free is a big challenge facing the [00:04:53] the whole industry. We're doing several several rounds of lithography, and [00:04:57] and we have several different material material layers that we are patterning. [00:05:00] patterning. This quantum chip has [00:05:03] has eight qubits. The qubits themselves themselves live right here in this [00:05:07] this chip. One qubit is 1/100 of [00:05:09] of a millimetre. We can actually actually fill this entire space up [00:05:13] up with qubits. That's how we get get to a million in the palm of your [00:05:16] your hand. Can I have a look at it? it? Absolutely. Please. OK. It's [00:05:19] It's quite heavy. It's heavier than [00:05:21] than you would think. This is. Majorana [00:05:24] Majorana 2. It's second generation [00:05:26] generation chip. Majorana 2 has just [00:05:28] just been revealed and has 12 qubits, [00:05:31] qubits, which the firm says are now [00:05:33] now longer lasting and more reliable. [00:05:38] reliable. For the magic ingredient, ingredient, Microsoft claims it's [00:05:41] it's hunted down an elusive subatomic [00:05:44] subatomic particle called a Majorana. [00:05:46] Majorana. Research that's taken it [00:05:50] it two decades. Some physicists in [00:05:52] in quantum computing experts have have argued, however, that the tech [00:05:56] tech giant's conclusions are built built on unproven particles and flawed [00:06:00] flawed data analysis. But Microsoft [00:06:03] Microsoft stands by its results the [00:06:06] the more qubits, the more powerful powerful the quantum computer. And [00:06:10] And some rivals have already surpassed [00:06:12] surpassed thousands of them. However, [00:06:14] However, Microsoft hopes its technology [00:06:17] technology can leapfrog other systems. systems. We believe that a high scale [00:06:20] scale quantum computer that works works well has to have a system of [00:06:24] of qubits that are small, they're they're fast, and they're accurate. [00:06:27] accurate. You must have all three. three. There's other computer designs [00:06:30] designs for those where you'd actually actually need an entire football [00:06:33] football pitch to actually fit a [00:06:35] a million qubits. And this is where [00:06:38] where those quantum chips are placed [00:06:41] placed below the chandelier, like like cooling device. You need to to have qubits there. You need to [00:06:45] to have the control electronics there. there. Then you need this system [00:06:49] system here. To function. Quantum [00:06:52] Quantum machines need extreme cold. cold. It is colder than outer space. [00:06:55] space. You can think of kind of a [00:06:57] a zero Kelvin is absolute zero temperature [00:07:00] temperature and we are 16.4 milli milli Centigrade above that temperature. [00:07:04] temperature. Newer versions of the the chips are continuously being [00:07:07] being tested, with the aim of adding adding more qubits. You need to have [00:07:11] have enough of those that you can can actually do meaningful calculations, [00:07:14] calculations, but at the same time time you need to have low error rates. [00:07:17] rates. Now we're really kind of looking looking how do we scale that first [00:07:20] first to hundreds and then thousands [00:07:23] thousands and beyond. That could [00:07:25] could pave the way. The firm says, says, for a quantum computer that [00:07:29] that can solve commercially useful useful problems within the next three [00:07:33] three years. Creating a new form form of computation, a new type of [00:07:37] of computer that just doesn't happen happen very often. Once in a generation. [00:07:41] generation. And I'm convinced that that just like the transistor is is incredibly important today and [00:07:45] and will be in the future, so will [00:07:47] will quantum computers. We're not [00:07:49] not there yet, but it could offer [00:07:52] offer huge promise if the hope can [00:07:55] can live up to the hype. [00:08:09] Soapbox racing it's been around [00:08:12] since the 1940s. Kids, homemade cars [00:08:15] cars and a dream. All for the love love of going downhill faster than [00:08:19] than the next racer. Fast forward [00:08:27] forward to now. And this is the Red [00:08:31] Red Bull Soapbox race. London. Over [00:08:37] Over 50 teams 420m of downhill chaos [00:08:42] chaos jumps, obstacles and builds builds that would blow the 1940s [00:08:46] 1940s kids minds. But here's the [00:08:50] the thing those old wooden crates, crates, they're long gone. What's [00:08:54] What's replaced them is something something else entirely. The builds [00:08:57] builds of today are in a completely completely different league. We're [00:09:01] We're talking about powerful suspension, suspension, computer aided designs [00:09:04] designs and some seriously smart [00:09:06] smart steering systems. They have [00:09:13] have to be under 80kg, be no longer [00:09:16] longer than 3.5m and be powered by [00:09:18] by nothing more than a push in gravity. [00:09:22] gravity. So no engines, no batteries, batteries, just straight up physics. [00:09:25] physics. And yes, this is a soapbox. [00:09:29] soapbox. I told you. The teams are [00:09:35] are judged on creativity, showmanship showmanship and speed. So not only [00:09:38] only do they need to look good, they they need to put on a performance [00:09:41] performance and finish the race quickly. [00:09:48] quickly. Among the teams here today, [00:09:50] today, one stood out. Hey, Brooke. [00:09:53] Brooke. Sixth form. How are we all all doing? How are we feeling? Thank [00:09:56] Thank you. Very good today. Honestly, Honestly, I'm just buzzing like first [00:09:59] first time. We're the youngest here here as well so we're in it to win [00:10:02] win it. They've got a metal worker, [00:10:05] worker, a driver, two builders and [00:10:07] and a designer. It's recording guys. guys. What was that? You're putting [00:10:11] putting the cockpit in first. It's It's taken them months to get to [00:10:15] to this stage and an after school [00:10:18] school club cutting, grinding, welding [00:10:20] welding and riveting in a workshop. [00:10:23] workshop. We decided to base the [00:10:25] the car off a Ferrari F1 1950. I I designed a whole entire 3D model [00:10:29] model of the whole thing. What can can you tell me about this braking [00:10:31] braking system? OK. So it's salvaged salvaged from a bike handle, right? [00:10:35] right? We connect to a long cable cable to the back of the axle. There's [00:10:38] There's a brake disc in the back. back. Then we've got the steering steering system. What we decided [00:10:41] decided to do, we just had two steel steel rods connecting to the wheel [00:10:45] wheel pivots. So you can just very [00:10:46] very easily turn it from here. The [00:10:49] The suspension we put on the front front because the front's going to [00:10:52] to be the first thing that hits the the ground once we get off the ramps ramps in the race, we don't want [00:10:56] want it to break down midway. So So yeah, suspension should help out [00:10:59] out a lot with that. So yeah, hopefully [00:11:01] hopefully we win. What can I say? [00:11:03] say? I was more of a hands on person person making sure all the metalwork [00:11:06] metalwork pieces are fit together, together, measured and using tools tools and the angle grinder and the [00:11:10] the workshop to actually cut things [00:11:13] things up. When everyone pushes you [00:11:16] you off from the start line, yes. yes. What's going to be going through [00:11:19] through your mind? Oh, to reach the [00:11:21] the end line then because my mission [00:11:25] mission is to reach the finishing finishing line to ensure we get the [00:11:28] the best marks, to be the first, [00:11:30] first, to be the best. Do you feel feel any pressure? Oh, no. I don't [00:11:34] don't feel pressure. The pressure [00:11:34] pressure is on the wheels. We are [00:11:38] are the youngest competitors as you you know, future engineers. Ultimately, [00:11:42] Ultimately, we're here to win it. it. We're going to teach the old old folks how it's really done, you [00:11:45] you know, because we're the next next generation. We're here to like [00:11:48] like outclass everyone. Guys confident confident words. But first they've [00:11:51] they've got to put a show on. [00:12:09] It's a good score. But the performance was just the start. The [00:12:12] The real test is about to begin. [00:12:17] begin. The build looks solid so far. far. Suspension's doing its job and [00:12:20] and everything's holding up. Then [00:12:23] Then the track hits back with help [00:12:26] help from the team. She was back [00:12:28] back up and running until the next [00:12:33] next crash but she never gave up. It didn't stop me. No [00:12:37] up. It didn't stop me. No no. Lock [00:12:40] Lock you. It's gonna stop me. Nobody. [00:12:43] Nobody. It's gonna stop me. Nobody [00:12:45] Nobody is gonna stop me. No. After [00:12:52] After the race, we found the team team to get their take on how it [00:12:55] it went. Getting ten points across across the board was one thing, but but to actually get to the finish [00:12:59] finish line is actually another thing. thing. And getting to that final final push to the final point, even [00:13:03] even though she crashed, getting getting to that last bit and never never giving up is just unbelievable, [00:13:07] unbelievable, honestly. So any tweaks tweaks for next time. Making it a a little bit lighter for someone [00:13:11] someone who's light like her to steer steer it properly is just an upgrade [00:13:14] upgrade that I would do. Personally, [00:13:17] Personally, I think we should level level the tires because I think the [00:13:20] the tires are a. Bit on uneven. I [00:13:24] I think that impacted the steering steering wheel a bit. So next time [00:13:27] time we shall make sure by the time time we come here we are prepared [00:13:31] prepared properly and we are ready [00:13:32] ready for anything. Out of 32 teams, [00:13:37] teams, they placed 16th overall, overall, eight for creativity and [00:13:41] and number one for the performance. performance. Not bad for this young [00:13:44] young team. They built something something from scratch and went for [00:13:48] for it and already talking about about next time. That's the engineering [00:13:52] engineering mindset. They may not not have one but they've definitely [00:13:55] definitely made their mark. MUSIC [00:15:01] and businesses on the front line. line. Join us for the climate question [00:15:05] question on BBC News. MUSIC [00:15:12] MUSIC [00:15:24] To put this forward a little bit like this and it'll be like that [00:15:28] that on you. Brain training to boost boost performance. Sleep optimisation. [00:15:32] optimisation. You're pushing down down with your feet. And strength [00:15:35] strength training assessments. Everything Everything you got, everything you [00:15:37] you got. Come on. These are just [00:15:40] just some of the companies showcasing showcasing innovative lifestyle interventions. [00:15:43] interventions. At the first Longevity Longevity Show in London, with the [00:15:46] the aim to help us live healthier, [00:15:48] healthier, longer lives. One of the [00:15:56] the big areas in the field of longevity longevity is nutrition. And I've [00:15:59] I've come to meet a company that that says it's taking that to the [00:16:03] the next level. To find out if it's it's just hype or if there's really [00:16:06] really something in it. The base base technology is around additive [00:16:09] additive manufacturing or more commonly commonly called 3D printing. When [00:16:12] When I started this project, I looked looked at all of the different manufacturing [00:16:16] manufacturing technologies available available and I couldn't find any [00:16:18] any that would be able to be flexible flexible and agile enough to do what [00:16:22] what I wanted, which was to be able able to make a unique product for [00:16:24] for each person. So I decided to to start taking 3D printers apart, [00:16:28] apart, putting them back together, together, and built one myself. So [00:16:32] So this is one printer in front of of us, but give me a sense of the [00:16:35] the scale of your operations. How How many printers do you have and [00:16:38] and what makes them special? This [00:16:40] This is our printer. But in our facilities facilities in Birmingham we actually [00:16:43] actually have a very large one of [00:16:46] of these which has 352 depositing [00:16:48] depositing nozzles and is able to [00:16:51] to make over 500,007 layer personalised personalised gummies every single single day. So I think in total we [00:16:55] we probably have close to 300 printers, printers, all of which are designed [00:16:58] designed and built from scratch by [00:17:00] by my own team. Can you just describe describe what it is I'm seeing here? [00:17:04] here? I mean, there's a lovely green [00:17:07] green looking substance being printed [00:17:08] printed from a 3D printer. Absolutely. [00:17:11] Absolutely. So inside that printer [00:17:13] printer we have a preformulated set set of ingredients. This specific [00:17:17] specific one is vitamin C and D3 [00:17:18] D3 from a vegan source. And the flavour flavour of this product is green [00:17:22] green apple. What we do in the factory [00:17:24] factory is we use that same technology [00:17:26] technology to layer individual ingredient [00:17:28] ingredient formulations one on top top of another, allowing us to create [00:17:31] create a limitless number of combinations combinations that are uniquely suited [00:17:34] suited to an individual. But do we [00:17:38] we actually need supplements? The The answer is it depends. While some [00:17:41] some of us may have deficiencies deficiencies without medical advice, [00:17:44] advice, it can be hard to know what what to take. I think the number number one thing is thinking has [00:17:48] has there been a clinical trial in in humans showing that whatever I'm [00:17:52] I'm being sold can lead to a health [00:17:53] health gain that I want? And if there there hasn't, I'd say probably not [00:17:57] not worth spending your money, but but there's literally thousands of [00:18:00] of different products and strategies strategies on the market. So my principle [00:18:02] principle is very much like narrow narrow that choice down to something [00:18:06] something that actually has got clinical clinical data behind it. Ask the the companies if they're selling [00:18:10] selling you something. They should should be able to provide you the the clinical trial to show that health [00:18:13] health benefit and make sure it's it's the exact formulation. And in [00:18:17] in terms of knowing then what you you as an individual need. Is there there a risk that people are taking [00:18:21] taking their health into their own own hands, rather than getting advice [00:18:24] advice from, say, a doctor or medical medical professional? Yeah, look, look, that's a really good question. [00:18:27] question. And I think it's so, so so important. And certainly whenever whenever someone sees me at the Gut [00:18:31] Gut health clinic, I always recommend, recommend, you know, if you're having [00:18:34] having gut issues, go to your GP GP straight away. They'll check off [00:18:37] off a few things because sadly, for for example, a lot of digestive issues, [00:18:40] issues, you know, it can mask other [00:18:42] other more sinister conditions like [00:18:45] like bowel cancer, ovarian cancer cancer or inflammatory bowel disease. [00:18:49] disease. There's now an increasing increasing awareness that some supplements [00:18:51] supplements could do more harm than than good. There are many ingredients [00:18:55] ingredients which, if taken too much much of, can have hugely negative [00:18:58] negative impacts on day one. In healthy healthy humans, when we're asking [00:19:02] asking questions about things like like are you trying to conceive? conceive? Are you pregnant? A bunch [00:19:05] bunch of ingredients will be removed removed from the options so that [00:19:08] that the consumer doesn't get something something that could potentially [00:19:11] potentially be damaging or dangerous [00:19:12] dangerous for them. But as the longevity [00:19:15] longevity industry booms, a challenge challenge for consumers is ensuring [00:19:17] ensuring that products like these these are evidence-based and that [00:19:21] that any supplement should not be be taken as a substitute for a healthy, [00:19:24] healthy, balanced diet. With so much much choice out there, it's important [00:19:28] important to remember that to protect [00:19:29] protect our health, we should still still prioritise eating well. Exercise [00:19:33] Exercise and quality sleep. MUSIC [00:19:47] MUSIC It It might seem like a sleepy industrial [00:19:50] industrial estate in southern England, England, but this place is all about [00:19:53] about speed now. Not down here. Up [00:19:57] Up there. This is Sunbird, a new [00:20:01] new type of rocket that could one one day move things around space [00:20:04] space a whole lot quicker. And while while these are just a concept for [00:20:08] for now, the tech needed to make [00:20:09] make them a reality has had its first [00:20:12] first successful test right here [00:20:14] here back on earth. We want to be [00:20:18] be able to lean into a propulsion propulsion system where once you're [00:20:21] you're in space, the fuels are available. [00:20:24] available. At the moment. Trips to [00:20:26] to and around space, including the [00:20:28] the Artemis mission to the moon involve [00:20:30] involve burning big tanks of fuel. fuel. But engineers here at pulsar [00:20:34] pulsar are testing something different [00:20:36] different using nuclear fusion. The [00:20:39] The reason rockets right now are are so big is because when they launch [00:20:42] launch from the ground, they have have to carry all the fuel with them. [00:20:46] them. What we want to achieve is [00:20:48] is a smaller rocket. So the smallest smallest possible rocket can leave [00:20:52] leave the ground using combustion combustion fire, which it will do [00:20:56] do always because it's the right right propulsion system in the atmosphere. [00:20:59] atmosphere. But once we get into into the vacuum of space, you switch [00:21:02] switch to nuclear and that will give [00:21:04] give you an exhaust speed incomparable [00:21:07] incomparable to, to fire. So we're [00:21:09] we're looking at a specific impulse [00:21:12] impulse of about 13,000 seconds, [00:21:14] seconds, which means half the time time to Mars. Nuclear fusion occurs [00:21:18] occurs when the middle bits of two two atoms are forced together to [00:21:22] to release extreme amounts of energy. energy. It's what powers our sun. [00:21:25] sun. Scientists have been trying trying to recreate this process for [00:21:28] for a long time, and there have been been some big steps forward. The [00:21:31] The UK's Atomic Energy Authority Authority has even suggested it could [00:21:35] could be on the nation's power grid grid by the 2040s. But fusion hasn't [00:21:39] hasn't been used for interplanetary interplanetary travel, at least not [00:21:43] not yet. Earlier this year, a key [00:21:45] key part of it was shown it could [00:21:47] could work right here in this room. [00:21:50] room. Now we developed the first [00:21:53] first exhaust infrastructure for [00:21:55] for a fusion rocket ever, and we [00:21:57] we achieved the first plasma inside inside it. Lots of pressure at that [00:22:01] that moment. Huge pressure. But this [00:22:04] this is what happened. Yeah. Shall Shall we play? Let's play it. And [00:22:08] And here's first plasma. Wow. There's [00:22:15] There's some complicated physics physics going on here, but essentially [00:22:19] essentially special atoms stored stored in the engine are made so [00:22:21] so hot they become no longer a solid [00:22:23] solid liquid or gas. But the fourth fourth state of matter called plasma. [00:22:27] plasma. This soup of highly charged charged ions and electrons is then [00:22:30] then forced out through a narrow narrow exhaust, creating massive [00:22:34] massive forward thrust. And to be be actually hold the plasma in the [00:22:37] the structure of the exhaust where where it should be, was I mean I [00:22:41] I mean really we were very lucky lucky to have achieved it. This test [00:22:44] test had to be done in space like [00:22:47] like conditions here on earth. And [00:22:49] And that's where this contraption [00:22:51] contraption comes in. So you're creating [00:22:55] creating a little pocket of space space here in your warehouse. Exactly [00:22:58] Exactly right. Yeah. So we suck all all the air out of this using a bunch [00:23:01] bunch of really interesting expensive expensive pumps. But the upshot is, is, yeah, you remove as much of the [00:23:05] the air as you possibly can and that that mimics the vacuum of space. [00:23:09] space. So this is an exhaust system system for Sunbird. It's basically [00:23:12] basically a large array of very powerful powerful electromagnets. And they're [00:23:15] they're there to actually form the [00:23:17] the plume of the rocket as it leaves leaves the engine. And so to drive [00:23:21] drive those, you need some fancy fancy high power power supplies. [00:23:24] supplies. You need some quite fancy fancy gas feeds to make sure that [00:23:28] that propellant is fed through at at the right rate. And of course [00:23:32] course you need the vacuum chamber. chamber. Otherwise none of it can [00:23:34] can work. And of course it's quite [00:23:36] quite echoey as you can hear. And And that's because you have to make [00:23:39] make sure there's nothing else in in here. Yeah, exactly. So its job [00:23:42] job is to mimic empty space. So we we try to keep all other equipment [00:23:45] equipment in the chamber to an absolute absolute minimum. Spotted something [00:23:48] something in the corner there. Yeah. Yeah. Normally you don't want little [00:23:50] little bits of plastic sitting around [00:23:52] around the vacuum chamber, but filming filming Sunbird was not easy. And [00:23:56] And we actually found one of the the best ways to get footage of it [00:23:59] it was just to stick a GoPro to the the inside of the chamber. Oh, and [00:24:02] and what's. Happened to that GoPro? GoPro? The GoPro is not very happy. [00:24:05] happy. The memory card survived, survived, but the camera did not. [00:24:09] not. The team here says this successful [00:24:12] successful test is a major breakthrough, breakthrough, but there's still a [00:24:14] a long way to go and a lot more tests tests needed. Something that will [00:24:18] will keep scientists here in pulsars [00:24:20] pulsars control room busy. Sunbird [00:24:22] Sunbird is something can take us us to Mars or the moon, and then [00:24:26] then it's going to change the industry industry very dramatically. What [00:24:28] What do you want to be doing in the the future when it comes to this this space? So it's really good to [00:24:32] to feel like we are working on something something which is going to have [00:24:35] have a big impact. And I think I I will just stay in this industry industry and then I will see missions [00:24:39] missions to Mars and then I will will see hopefully maybe one day [00:24:41] day I will be there as well. It's [00:24:44] It's not just happening here. Avalanche Avalanche energy is developing its [00:24:47] its own version of a fusion powered powered spacecraft, while Princeton [00:24:50] Princeton Satellite Systems in the the US is working on a deep space [00:24:54] space propulsion technology called called Starfire. And with space agencies [00:24:58] agencies and the space industry's industry's bigger and bolder plans plans for a base on the moon and [00:25:02] and humans on the surface of Mars, Mars, humanity will need rockets [00:25:05] rockets that keep up with its ambitions. ambitions. What the technology is [00:25:09] is telling us that this is what we [00:25:11] we do. We. We evolve and we. We build [00:25:16] build these technologies which are are available to us and we leave [00:25:19] leave our solar system. We do start [00:25:22] start migrating into orbit. It seems seems very natural, strangely. I [00:25:25] I mean, even though it may look unnatural, unnatural, all this metal and steel [00:25:29] steel and plasma. 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