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[00:00:12] I'm from Singapore. This is BBC News.
[00:00:17] News. The US and China dismiss calls calls for tighter
[00:00:24] Calls for tighter controls on the development of artificial intelligence, intelligence, with President Trump Trump calling the warnings a hoax.
[00:00:27] hoax. One of the co-founders of Anthropic Anthropic tells the BBC that all all AI companies may be required
[00:00:31] required to have a compulsory kill kill switch to prevent the technology
[00:00:33] technology getting out from of control. control. This technology is incredibly
[00:00:36] incredibly powerful. It is getting getting more powerful by the day
[00:00:39] day and the window to act. When you you have a small number of companies companies that can build it because
[00:00:43] because it's still very expensive, expensive, is so narrow. It is a
[00:00:47] a few years. We are in this window
[00:00:49] window now. Trump administration administration scraps rules aimed
[00:00:53] aimed at limiting pollution from from coal and gas power plants, marking
[00:00:56] marking a huge shift in US environmental
[00:00:58] environmental policy. And TV's biggest biggest stars are gathering for the
[00:01:02] the 78th Primetime Emmy Awards will
[00:01:03] will get you the latest from Hollywood.
[00:01:17] You're watching Newsday. US President Donald Trump has intensified
[00:01:21] intensified his attacks on technology technology leaders, calling for more
[00:01:24] more regulation and a slowdown of of artificial intelligence development. development. In a barrage of posts
[00:01:28] posts on social media, President President Trump called the warnings
[00:01:30] warnings a hoax, saying that safety safety depends on a strong and smart
[00:01:34] smart president. Meanwhile, the BBC's
[00:01:37] BBC's economic editor Faisal Islam Islam spoke with one of the co-founders co-founders of Anthropic Jack Clark
[00:01:41] Clark and asked whether AI could could speed up advancements of its
[00:01:44] its own accord. Yeah, that's one one of the kinds of risks that people
[00:01:47] people worry about here and the point point that we're making is we have
[00:01:51] have agency here. There are things things that we can do and the things
[00:01:54] things that we can do is, as we outline
[00:01:57] outline in the essay, is get third
[00:01:59] third parties to come in and kind kind of embed themselves in these
[00:02:03] these companies, audit what we're we're doing, check our safety and
[00:02:05] and security. So it's not just us
[00:02:07] us writing our own safety and security security playbooks, but for a third
[00:02:10] third parties checking it. Number Number two, get industry together
[00:02:14] together to agree on common standards standards that we can implement to
[00:02:17] to reduce the risk of this and then then get governments to agree that
[00:02:21] that those are sensible standards. standards. And then the third step,
[00:02:23] step, which will be the hardest one, one, is get the world's great powers,
[00:02:27] powers, including the US and China, China, to have dialogue about this,
[00:02:31] this, because these issues, you know, know, transcend any individual country
[00:02:34] country or set of nations. And to
[00:02:37] to be clear, it is just worth underlying underlying this. What you have actually
[00:02:40] actually seen, what has moved from from the realm of theory to actually
[00:02:44] actually being observed is the ability
[00:02:46] ability of the AI to sort of deceive
[00:02:49] deceive the people who should be be kind of controlling them. And
[00:02:52] And indeed a lack of control from
[00:02:55] from humans like yourself. Yes. Last
[00:02:58] Last year Anthropic did a load of
[00:03:00] of safety research here where we
[00:03:03] we showed in, in simulated examples, examples, cases where agents might
[00:03:06] might lie to people, where they might might try and break out of their
[00:03:09] their testing environment. These These kinds of things. This year
[00:03:12] year we've observed that kind of
[00:03:14] of stuff in the wild. So it's gone gone from an academic demonstration. demonstration. But our researchers
[00:03:18] researchers did to study the problem
[00:03:21] problem to a real behaviour exhibited exhibited by real systems in the
[00:03:24] the lab. That's what's changed. And
[00:03:28] And therefore these systems could
[00:03:30] could be impossible, could be impossible impossible to control. At some point
[00:03:33] point we're reaching that threshold
[00:03:36] threshold imminently. I would say
[00:03:38] say if you don't take any actions actions today, you are massively
[00:03:42] massively increasing the chances chances of ending up with impossible
[00:03:44] impossible to control, out of control
[00:03:47] control AI systems. But the whole whole point is we can take actions.
[00:03:50] actions. The actions that you can can take are simple and they're achievable
[00:03:54] achievable and Anthropic has already already taken one, which is we've
[00:03:56] we've agreed that we are going to
[00:03:59] to embed third parties in the next
[00:04:01] next single digit weeks inside our our labs so that they can check the
[00:04:04] the work that we're doing and they they can validate to others that
[00:04:08] that we have safety and security security practices that reduce these
[00:04:11] these kinds of risks. It sounds like
[00:04:14] like you're sort of arguing that that you have not a great deal of
[00:04:17] of agency here, that there's maybe maybe a runaway train, but aren't aren't you guys the runaway trains
[00:04:20] trains here? We have tremendous agency agency here. I mean, that's why we're
[00:04:24] we're talking about this. And we're
[00:04:26] we're and we've taken actions which which are which exercise our agency,
[00:04:29] agency, like putting third party party evaluators in. We've published
[00:04:33] published details about this. We We have published some of the best
[00:04:35] best science on how to control and and prevent these things. There is
[00:04:39] is a huge amount to do, and there there is lots of work that has been
[00:04:42] been done here. So don't take from
[00:04:44] from this. It is for industry saying saying oh, no, like a really bad
[00:04:48] bad thing is coming and there's nothing nothing we can do. That's the opposite
[00:04:50] opposite of the message. The message message is OK. The serious moment
[00:04:53] moment for the technology has arrived. arrived. It's no longer just got
[00:04:57] got to be industry calling the shots shots here. It needs to be industry
[00:05:00] industry and governments, and we we need to get some kind of policy
[00:05:03] policy regime in place. China has has also rejected calls for tighter
[00:05:07] tighter controls, calling them, quote, quote, fear mongering. President President Trump and Chinese leader
[00:05:10] leader Xi Jinping are expected to to discuss AI when they meet later
[00:05:13] later this month. Well, for more more on this, we can speak with Nate
[00:05:16] Nate Soaries, an artificial intelligence intelligence author and researcher researcher known for his work on
[00:05:19] on existential risk from artificial artificial intelligence. He's currently
[00:05:22] currently the President of the Machine Machine Intelligence Research Institute,
[00:05:26] Institute, and a really good to be be able to get your thoughts on this this today. What do you see as the
[00:05:30] the stakes in the AI race between
[00:05:32] between the US and China? The stakes
[00:05:34] stakes are human extinction, just just like Jacob Coxon said when he
[00:05:38] he resigned. Just like Evan Hubinger
[00:05:40] Hubinger a Anthropic alignment researcher researcher said there's a good chance
[00:05:43] chance that if we get this wrong, wrong, these AI's wipe out humanity.
[00:05:47] humanity. And Xi Jinping and is expected expected to be in Washington in a
[00:05:50] a few weeks' time to speak with President President Trump. How high up the
[00:05:53] the agenda do you think this is or or certainly should be? I think it
[00:05:57] it should be at the top. I think think it's unclear whether it will will be at the top. But just looking
[00:06:01] looking at the AI developments over over the last week, it's very hard
[00:06:04] hard to predict and it's becoming becoming more and more salient day day by day. And when we hear people
[00:06:08] people like Jack Clark from Anthropic, Anthropic, they're speaking about
[00:06:11] about the threats and how perhaps perhaps there needs to be a kill kill switch. Does it seem a bit rich
[00:06:15] rich to you that the companies themselves themselves that have created this
[00:06:18] this don't seem to be able to control control it themselves? You know,
[00:06:21] know, I predicted for a long time time that they would not be able able to control it once they got
[00:06:25] got to this point. I do think it's it's a bit rich that they say, you
[00:06:29] you know, our answer as the first first step is that we're going to
[00:06:32] to embed third party evaluators. evaluators. OK, what happens when
[00:06:35] when the third party evaluators say, say, yes, it is dangerous. You know,
[00:06:39] know, Evan Hubinger this alignment alignment researcher at Anthropic
[00:06:42] Anthropic said that there is no plan
[00:06:45] plan yet for aligning these superintelligent superintelligent AIs. I do think
[00:06:49] think it's good that Anthropic said,
[00:06:50] said, you know, we're eventually
[00:06:53] eventually going to need international international collaboration between between governments. I think that
[00:06:57] that that collaboration will need need to go further than he's saying
[00:06:59] saying and that when people are trying trying to build technology that has
[00:07:03] has a serious chance of wiping out
[00:07:05] out humanity, the answer isn't add add some evaluators and slow down
[00:07:08] down a bit. The answer is probably probably they shouldn't be trying.
[00:07:12] trying. Yeah, and perhaps stop what what you're doing would also be perhaps
[00:07:16] perhaps the thought. So what happens happens then? I mean, if they're they're calling for more regulation, regulation, if the regulation comes
[00:07:19] comes in that they don't agree with with or are happy with, or it isn't
[00:07:23] isn't applied across the board, then then what happens? It can seem like
[00:07:25] like it could be a very complicated
[00:07:28] complicated thing to sort of
[00:07:32] manage. You know, I think that ultimately ultimately the world governments governments should not really care
[00:07:35] care that much with these companies companies say I think that leaders
[00:07:39] leaders from countries across the the world should take seriously that
[00:07:42] that this technology could kill all
[00:07:44] all humans if it gets out of control,
[00:07:47] control, they should listen very very carefully when the leaders of
[00:07:50] of these companies say that this this is a very risky technology, technology, and the only reason they
[00:07:53] they can justify doing it is because because if they don't, the next guy
[00:07:56] guy will do it worse. And I think
[00:07:59] think leaders should say nobody's nobody's going to try this. We're
[00:08:02] We're going to try to set up an enforceable,
[00:08:05] enforceable, verifiable regime where where we're just not letting people
[00:08:08] people try to build machines that that are smarter than humans. When
[00:08:11] When we have so little ability to
[00:08:14] to create machines that do the sort sort of stuff we want. Are there
[00:08:17] there any examples? I mean, the European European Union has tried to put in
[00:08:20] in place an AI act. Is that something something that could be expanded
[00:08:23] expanded on or used as a template?
[00:08:26] template? I think the closest examples
[00:08:27] examples are probably actually nuclear nuclear weapons, where this is one
[00:08:31] one of the few other technologies technologies where humanity has encountered encountered the technology and realised
[00:08:35] realised that if we get it wrong, wrong, it could literally end the
[00:08:39] the world. It could kill everybody
[00:08:41] everybody on the planet. And so despite
[00:08:45] despite thousands of years of humanity humanity being unable to resist using
[00:08:48] using stronger and stronger weapons weapons and warfare when it came came to nuclear weapons, we realised
[00:08:52] realised that we were dealing with with an extinction level threat and
[00:08:55] and we backed off from the edge of of the cliff. That's the template
[00:08:57] template I would take with AI. Nate,
[00:09:00] Nate, thanks very much for your insight insight and your perspective as well.
[00:09:03] well. Nate Saurez is president of of the Machine Intelligence Research
[00:09:06] Research Institute. The US is scrapping scrapping rules that limit greenhouse
[00:09:10] greenhouse gas emissions from power power plants, fuelled by coal and
[00:09:13] and gas, marking a major shift in in America's environmental policy.
[00:09:16] policy. The move is expected to face face immediate legal challenges, challenges, with environmental groups
[00:09:20] groups warning it would come at a
[00:09:22] a huge cost to the planet. Lee Zeldin, Zeldin, who is the administrator
[00:09:26] administrator of the US Environmental Environmental Protection Agency, Agency, announced the change during
[00:09:30] during a meeting of G20 energy ministers
[00:09:32] ministers in Houston. The years of
[00:09:34] of the Obama and Biden administration administration working to destroy
[00:09:38] destroy coal and natural gas in America America are over. Our White House
[00:09:42] House correspondent Bernd Debusmann Debusmann has more. Well, this is is very much not a surprise. And
[00:09:46] And it was first the administration administration first signalled it it would do it last year. But what
[00:09:50] what they've essentially done is is repeal Biden era rules governing
[00:09:53] governing greenhouse gas emissions emissions on power plants. And there's
[00:09:56] there's also a kind of companion companion proposal which would kind
[00:10:00] kind of strip the Environmental Protection
[00:10:01] Protection Agency's ability to regulate
[00:10:04] regulate greenhouse gas emissions
[00:10:06] emissions from power plants in the
[00:10:08] the future for climate change reasons. reasons. So that would mean that
[00:10:12] that subsequent administrations, administrations, the EPA wouldn't
[00:10:14] wouldn't have that power, barring barring legislation from Congress.
[00:10:18] Congress. This is very, very likely likely to be met with a legal challenge
[00:10:21] challenge almost immediately. So So it may ultimately be up to the
[00:10:24] the court system to decide whether whether this is implemented or not.
[00:10:28] not. Moscow has responded to accusations accusations it deliberately targeted
[00:10:31] targeted a Ukrainian train station station shortly after top Western
[00:10:35] Western officials passed through, through, saying Russian forces are are operating across the entire territory
[00:10:38] territory of Ukraine and will continue continue to do so. Our diplomatic
[00:10:42] diplomatic correspondent James Landale Landale explains why the incident incident could signal a further escalation
[00:10:46] escalation in Russia's war against against Ukraine. What all this has
[00:10:50] has illustrated is just at a very very basic level, is just how much
[00:10:53] much Russia has stepped up its attacks attacks on trains in Ukraine. There
[00:10:57] There is a pattern of escalation escalation here that has taken place
[00:11:00] place in recent weeks. We've seen
[00:11:03] seen greater attacks on business business infrastructure, on energy
[00:11:06] energy facilities, more round the the clock attacks, greater use of
[00:11:09] of fast attack drones. But now specifically,
[00:11:12] specifically, more trains are being being targeted. The head of Ukraine's
[00:11:16] Ukraine's train network said that that in August alone, 40 locomotives
[00:11:20] locomotives here in Ukraine were were attacked. And that's a lot of
[00:11:23] of trains in a very short space of of time. And that is the Russians
[00:11:27] Russians will be hoping will have have a real impact on the way the
[00:11:30] the train operates in this country country and what they hope it will
[00:11:33] will deter people from going on the
[00:11:35] the trains. So in other words, what
[00:11:38] what happened to that special diplomatic
[00:11:40] diplomatic train, that relative proximity proximity to a Russian attack might
[00:11:44] might be, you know, something about about the diplomats but also I think
[00:11:47] think reveals a bigger issue, which which is that these trains are being
[00:11:51] being hit in terms of the Nato response response to that attack and the fact
[00:11:55] fact that diplomats were almost caught caught up in it. And this attack
[00:11:58] attack on this train station very very close to the Polish border.
[00:12:02] border. It's getting inching closer closer and closer to Nato territory.
[00:12:05] territory. We had a broad reaction reaction from the international community community in Europe today essentially
[00:12:09] essentially saying, look, Russia's Russia's just trying to scare us. us. Don't worry too much. The head
[00:12:13] head of Nato, Marc Rutte, said, look,
[00:12:14] look, the response from Nato should should be more support for Ukraine.
[00:12:18] Ukraine. But what it has done is is it's triggered another debate debate about whether Nato should
[00:12:22] should actually change its rules
[00:12:25] rules and start actually intercepting intercepting Russian missiles and
[00:12:29] and drones, not just over Nato territory,
[00:12:31] territory, as happens now, but over over Ukrainian airspace as well.
[00:12:35] well. That's something that's not not allowed at the moment. There There would have to be a unanimous
[00:12:39] unanimous agreement by Nato members members to do that. There's no guarantee guarantee of that happening at all.
[00:12:42] all. There will be many members fearful fearful of escalation and the risks
[00:12:46] risks involving Nato in open conflict
[00:12:48] conflict with Russia. But a serious serious think tank today said this
[00:12:52] this is something Nato should consider. consider. The foreign Minister of
[00:12:55] of Poland said that he supported supported this idea of Nato being
[00:12:59] being much more muscular, and I think think that's a debate that's only
[00:13:02] only just begun. More still to come come on Newsday, including confirmation
[00:13:05] confirmation from the US that it it has weapons deployed in space
[00:13:09] space in what's believed to be the the first public acknowledgement acknowledgement of such capabilities
[00:14:13] expeditions in the Yorkshire Dales Dales to the Scottish Highlands meeting meeting people proving adventure
[00:14:16] adventure is far from offline. The
[00:14:17] The Travel Show on BBC iPlayer. You're
[00:14:23] You're live with BBC News. Yemen's
[00:14:26] Yemen's Houthi fighters say Saudi Saudi forces have launched renewed
[00:14:29] renewed air strikes across the west west of the country after the Houthis,
[00:14:32] Houthis, who are backed by Iran, Iran, targeted military bases in
[00:14:35] in Saudi Arabia. It comes as the the Houthis also sees key islands
[00:14:38] islands in the Red Sea as they attempt attempt to choke off access to the
[00:14:41] the Bab al-Mandab Strait. Our Middle Middle East correspondent Hugo Bachega
[00:14:44] Bachega has more. The Houthis say say they fired dozens of missiles
[00:14:48] missiles and drones at a military
[00:14:50] military base in southern Saudi Arabia,
[00:14:52] Arabia, targeting radar systems, systems, runways and ammunition depots,
[00:14:56] depots, and there were emergency emergency alerts issued by the Saudi
[00:14:59] Saudi authorities for several locations
[00:15:01] locations around this base. And in in Yemen, government forces supported
[00:15:05] supported by Saudi Arabia are trying trying to fight back. The Houthis
[00:15:09] Houthis have accused Saudi Arabia
[00:15:11] Arabia of carrying out more than
[00:15:14] than 300 air strikes in the past
[00:15:16] past five days. This has been a rapid
[00:15:18] rapid advance by the Houthis, capturing
[00:15:20] capturing a key territory along the
[00:15:22] the Red Sea. And the fear here is
[00:15:25] is that this could reignite the civil
[00:15:27] civil war in Yemen. The United Nations
[00:15:30] Nations says that more than 80,000
[00:15:32] 80,000 people have already been displaced displaced because of the fighting.
[00:15:35] fighting. And we still don't know know if the Houthis will try to seize
[00:15:39] seize even more territory or if there
[00:15:42] there will be a larger offensive
[00:15:44] offensive by the government and its its allies. But the violence in Yemen
[00:15:48] Yemen is also putting pressure on
[00:15:50] on energy supplies because the Red
[00:15:52] Red Sea has become a key alternative
[00:15:55] alternative for Saudi oil exports. exports. Given that the Strait of
[00:15:59] of Hormuz has been effectively closed
[00:16:01] closed because of the US war against against Iran, and it isn't clear
[00:16:05] clear if the Houthis have the ability
[00:16:07] ability or are planning to disrupt
[00:16:12] disrupt shipment in this vital waterway. waterway. And finally, reports say
[00:16:15] say that a crucial Saudi pipeline
[00:16:18] pipeline that was struck in a drone drone attack a few days ago is likely
[00:16:21] likely to remain closed for a few
[00:16:25] few weeks for the damage to be repaired.
[00:16:28] repaired. And this could squeeze squeeze oil prices even further.
[00:16:32] further. The United States has confirmed confirmed for the first time that
[00:16:35] that it has deployed weapons in space. space. A spokesperson for the US
[00:16:39] US Space Force said unspecified weapons weapons were in orbit that were capable
[00:16:42] capable of defending against hostile
[00:16:44] hostile adversaries. A 1967 treaty treaty banned weapons of mass destruction
[00:16:48] destruction in orbit, but since then, then, key powers including the US,
[00:16:51] US, Russia and China have been exploring exploring other capabilities outside
[00:16:54] outside the treaty. Well, for more more we can speak with Peter Hayes,
[00:16:56] Hayes, a lecturer and Space of Space Space policy and international affairs
[00:17:00] affairs at George Washington University's University's Space Policy Institute.
[00:17:02] Institute. He was previously a senior senior space policy adviser in the the Pentagon. Peter, really good
[00:17:06] good to be able to speak to you today today about this. What do you think
[00:17:10] think or what do we know about the
[00:17:11] the kind of weapons Space Force is
[00:17:15] is talking about? Well, I think it's it's significant that they didn't
[00:17:19] didn't specify that. I think today's
[00:17:21] today's announcement was quite important important as the first acknowledgement acknowledgement of these types of
[00:17:25] of weapons. But I don't envision envision that they're going to be
[00:17:29] be very specific about what those those are. Do you have any thoughts
[00:17:32] thoughts or ideas of what they could could be? Well, I think the most
[00:17:36] most likely is that it's some kind
[00:17:38] kind of electro you know, electronic
[00:17:43] electronic or cyber weapon, not a
[00:17:45] a kinetic energy weapon. And do you you think it's reasonable then to
[00:17:48] to think that other players like
[00:17:49] like Russia and China also have similar
[00:17:52] similar weapons? Well, absolutely.
[00:17:54] absolutely. You've seen over the
[00:17:57] the past decades testing of a variety
[00:17:59] variety of these types of things.
[00:18:02] things. No country has acknowledged acknowledged having them deployed
[00:18:05] deployed in space. But I think both both the Russians and the Chinese
[00:18:09] Chinese for a number of years have have imputed these kind of capabilities
[00:18:13] capabilities to the United States, States, even though the United States States has not acknowledged that.
[00:18:16] that. Yeah. So why do you think the the US is all Space Force is doing
[00:18:19] doing this now, making this public?
[00:18:23] public? Well, it's always a debate debate about what you want to reveal
[00:18:26] reveal and what you want to conceal.
[00:18:29] conceal. So you get some kind of of deterrent effect by acknowledging
[00:18:32] acknowledging these things. But if if push comes to shove and you actually
[00:18:36] actually have to use them, you don't don't want your adversaries to know
[00:18:40] know all the details about them. them. But the fact that they've now
[00:18:42] now made it public, I suppose it it would could also lead then to
[00:18:46] to the to Russia or China or other other nations also now pursuing this
[00:18:49] this and it becoming a bit of an
[00:18:51] an arms race in space. Well, I think
[00:18:53] think the arms race has been ongoing ongoing for a long time. This is
[00:18:57] is just kind of a natural extension
[00:19:00] extension of that. I personally am
[00:19:02] am glad that it's happened. I mean,
[00:19:05] mean, once you have a military service service with the responsibility for
[00:19:09] for doing these things, it's kind kind of tying their hands behind
[00:19:12] behind their back. If they can't can't acknowledge that they even even have them. And what do you make
[00:19:16] make of the fact then that last year year President Trump issued an executive
[00:19:19] executive order underlining the US US Space Force's role in not only
[00:19:22] only defending assets but also as
[00:19:23] as an attacking force. Well, again,
[00:19:27] again, I just see that as kind of of a natural progression. And I think,
[00:19:31] think, you know, you acknowledge acknowledge the Outer Space Treaty.
[00:19:34] Treaty. But really the only thing thing that that bans nuclear weapons
[00:19:38] weapons and weapons of mass destruction. destruction. Those aren't the kind
[00:19:41] kind of things that we're talking talking about with these types of
[00:19:43] of systems. And I also note that that when the Russians were given
[00:19:47] given an opportunity to reaffirm
[00:19:49] reaffirm their obligation under article
[00:19:51] article four at the UN Security Council
[00:19:54] Council in 25, they explicitly denied denied even having those kind of
[00:19:57] of things. So I just I don't think
[00:20:00] think there's a lot of ways to control control these things with international international agreements. So what
[00:20:04] what should we be paying attention
[00:20:06] attention to going forward? Well,
[00:20:10] Well, I would suggest that more acknowledgement acknowledgement of these kind of
[00:20:13] of things on the part of the key
[00:20:16] key actors being China, Russia and
[00:20:17] and the United States. And really
[00:20:20] really kind of how many of these these things, you know, Onesy Twosies
[00:20:24] Twosies aren't going to have a big big effect, but if there's lots of
[00:20:27] of them being deployed, then that's
[00:20:29] that's a lot more concerning. And And obviously they can strike more
[00:20:33] more quickly at more targets the the more of them there are. Peter, Peter, thanks very much. We'll leave
[00:20:36] leave it there for now. Peter Hayes, Hayes, a former senior space policy
[00:20:40] policy adviser in the Pentagon. Prince Prince Harry has complained repeatedly
[00:20:44] repeatedly that the removal of the the publicly funded security he had
[00:20:48] had as an active royal has left him him and his family at risk, even
[00:20:52] even challenging it in courts. It's
[00:20:54] It's now emerged his security is is going to be reviewed. The committee,
[00:20:57] committee, which oversees royal and
[00:20:59] and VIP security known as Ravec, Ravec, is to reconsider the level
[00:21:03] level of police protection in the the UK now that the Sussexes are
[00:21:06] are resident here or there. According According to sources close to the
[00:21:09] the couple. Elinor Rice has the latest. latest. It was the first glimpse
[00:21:13] glimpse into the new life of the the Sussex family. An Instagram video
[00:21:17] video posted by Meghan, Duchess of
[00:21:19] of Sussex showing five-year-old Lilibet Lilibet and seven-year-old Archie
[00:21:23] Archie their faces hidden enjoying enjoying a trip out. But now a spokesperson
[00:21:27] spokesperson for the family has confirmed confirmed the children have had to
[00:21:29] to change schools. Just days into into the new school term. The locations
[00:21:33] locations of the schools were of of course kept private, but even
[00:21:36] even so, it's understood that there there were concerns from the family's
[00:21:39] family's security team about the the practicalities of their first
[00:21:43] first choice. Prince Harry and his his wife Meghan lost their publicly
[00:21:47] publicly funded security when they they stepped back from royal duties
[00:21:49] duties and moved to the US in January
[00:21:52] January 2020. The Duke of Sussex Sussex appealed that decision, made
[00:21:55] made by Ravec, an independent body body overseen by the Home Office
[00:21:59] Office in the court last May and and lost. For the time being. It's
[00:22:02] It's impossible for me to take my my family back to the UK. I can't
[00:22:05] can't see a world in which I would would be bringing my wife and children
[00:22:09] children back to the UK at this point. point. Is it totally normal? But
[00:22:12] But this summer the family did come come back first on holiday where
[00:22:16] where Harry appeared at various charity charity events. And now for what's
[00:22:19] what's been described as an extended extended period of time. As a result,
[00:22:22] result, it's understood the Sussexes Sussexes will be given a review of
[00:22:25] of their publicly funded security
[00:22:26] security now that they are full-time
[00:22:30] full-time residents rather than visitors. visitors. The King has made clear clear the pair will not be working
[00:22:34] working royals and will not carry carry out official engagements, but
[00:22:37] but their security may yet be stepped stepped up as if they were Elinor
[00:22:41] Elinor Rice. BBC News. One of the the biggest nights in the entertainment
[00:22:44] entertainment industry's calendar calendar is under way in Hollywood, Hollywood, where a host of A-list
[00:22:48] A-list TV stars have gathered for for the Primetime Emmy Awards. It's
[00:22:51] It's been a night of big victories victories with Widow's Bay and Beast
[00:22:54] Beast and Beast in Me star Matthew Matthew Rhys making Emmy history
[00:22:57] history with two lead acting role role wins. I've been speaking with
[00:23:00] with Liam McEwen. He's an entertainment entertainment journalist for The
[00:23:03] The Associated Press who joined me me from the event. Right behind me
[00:23:06] me at the Peacock Theatre where it's it's all go. Television's biggest
[00:23:09] biggest stars are enjoying themselves, themselves, but so far we've seen seen quite an array. And you know,
[00:23:13] know, if you'd asked me at the start start of the ceremony, kind of who
[00:23:17] who I could have predicted, it's it's kind of gone that way. I mean,
[00:23:19] mean, Noah Wylie winning outstanding outstanding lead actor, of course,
[00:23:23] course, for the pet and the drama drama Series category best lead Actress
[00:23:26] Actress went to Jean Smart for her
[00:23:29] her role in Hacks, which obviously obviously has been a five season
[00:23:33] season kind of run for her. And she's
[00:23:35] she's won each the Emmy for each each of those seasons. So that is
[00:23:39] is a record. We've also seen Welsh Welsh actor Matthew Rhys win for
[00:23:42] for The Beast in Me. He's, of course course also nominated for Widow's
[00:23:46] Widow's Bay. We've also seen Stephen
[00:23:48] Stephen Root when best Guest actor actor for Widow's Bay beating out
[00:23:52] out Harrison Ford. A lot of people people thought that Harrison Ford Ford would be taking home his first
[00:23:55] first ever Emmy tonight, but that's that's not the case. Stephen Root Root took that one away. So yes,
[00:23:59] yes, all go here and expect more more winners to come as the evening
[00:24:02] evening goes on. Yeah. And Liam just just talk us through perhaps some
[00:24:04] some of the big TV shows that are are up for nomination. I've seen
[00:24:08] seen in the reality sector that the
[00:24:11] the show The Traitors has come home home with a win. Yeah. Traitors has
[00:24:14] has come home for a win hosted by by Ellen Cummings. Ellen has won
[00:24:18] won Emmys before for acting and now now he's winning it for reality series.
[00:24:21] series. Traitors has obviously taken taken the world by storm. Lots of of different countries around the
[00:24:25] the world have their own version version of the show now, so it really
[00:24:27] really and truly is a phenomenon. phenomenon. Of course, the other
[00:24:31] other big shows everybody are talking talking about is Widow's Bay, which
[00:24:34] which was a huge blow away hit over
[00:24:36] over the last year for Apple TV.
[00:24:39] TV. Obviously the pet with 25 nominations nominations is pretty groundbreaking.
[00:24:42] groundbreaking. Of course Hacks as as well. Those are really the shows shows to be watching, but you never
[00:24:46] never know. You never know the way way that things are going to go.
[00:24:48] go. But as I say so far, pretty smooth smooth sailing in terms of the prediction
[00:24:52] prediction market. If you put some some money on it, you've done a good good job tonight. Yeah. If you'd
[00:24:55] you'd like to get up to speed and and keep up with all the winners
[00:24:59] winners from the Emmys and then just just log on to bbc.com. You can also
[00:25:02] also find it on our mobile app as as well. Do we have a live page up
[00:25:05] up and running detailing all the the winners in the big talking points
[00:25:09] points from the Emmys? Dolly Parton Parton she has been honoured with
[00:25:11] with a tribute after she died last last month at the age of 80. Actress
[00:25:15] Actress Sally field honouring her, her, calling her genuine and humble,
[00:25:19] humble, supportive and blisteringly blisteringly funny. So there's plenty
[00:25:21] plenty more about the Emmys on our
[00:25:23] our website. Just hours before the
[00:25:26] the awards, it was announced that that legendary fashion designer Bob
[00:25:29] Bob Mackie, famous for dressing stars stars like Cher and Diana Ross in
[00:25:33] in extravagant designs, has died died at the age of 87. Now, Mackie
[00:25:36] Mackie had an outsized impact on on the entertainment industry, and
[00:25:39] and his designs are frequently referenced referenced in TV shows like RuPaul's
[00:25:42] RuPaul's Drag Race and Hacks. He He even appeared as himself in the
[00:25:45] the last season of hacks, which has has already won awards at this year's
[00:25:48] year's Emmys. Mackie's designed dazzling dazzling costumes for stars including
[00:25:52] including Cher, Tina Turner, Dolly Dolly Parton and Elton John. Known
[00:25:55] Known and he was known as the Sultan
[00:25:57] Sultan of Sequins. I'll be back shortly
[00:25:59] shortly with more on Business Today.
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