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[00:00:00] MUSIC
[00:00:13] Live from London. This is BBC
[00:00:15] News. Anthropic co-founder says AI
[00:00:18] AI firms may need a compulsory kill
[00:00:20] kill switch to stop the technology
[00:00:23] technology spiralling out of control. control. The public inquiry into
[00:00:26] into how Lucy Letby was able to murder murder seven babies and attempt to
[00:00:29] to kill seven more is to be publishing
[00:00:32] publishing its findings. Yemen's
[00:00:34] Yemen's Houthi say Saudi Arabia launches launches fresh strikes after the
[00:00:38] the Iran backed group targeted military
[00:00:41] military bases in the kingdom. Prince Prince Harry and Meghan's police
[00:00:45] police protection will be reviewed reviewed after changing their children's
[00:00:48] children's school over security concerns.
[00:00:50] concerns. And coming up, British
[00:00:53] British success at the Emmys. Matthew Matthew Rhys makes history with two
[00:00:56] two best lead Actor awards as Kate
[00:00:58] Kate O'Flynn and Alan coming also
[00:01:00] also take trophies home. Hello and
[00:01:11] and a very warm welcome. I'm Sally
[00:01:14] Sally Bundock, the co-founder of of one of the world's biggest artificial artificial intelligence companies,
[00:01:18] companies, has told the BBC that
[00:01:19] that AI firms may need a compulsory
[00:01:23] compulsory kill switch to prevent prevent the technology spiralling
[00:01:26] spiralling out of control. Anthropic
[00:01:28] Anthropic Jack Clark says AI is getting
[00:01:30] getting smarter and more capable capable every few months, which could
[00:01:34] could become a major risk to society.
[00:01:36] society. President Trump has angrily angrily rejected calls to slow down
[00:01:40] down the development of AI, calling
[00:01:42] calling fears it poses a threat to
[00:01:44] to humanity a hoax. Here's more from
[00:01:46] from our economics editor Faisal Faisal Islam, who reports on the
[00:01:49] the tensions, the regulation of the the industry has caused, leading
[00:01:52] leading to a sell off of tech stocks stocks around the world. We've made
[00:01:56] made for complex. One AI giant, Anthropic
[00:01:59] Anthropic called to slow down the the AI race. A whistleblower and
[00:02:02] and safety experts at the company company said there was a 1 in 10
[00:02:06] 10 chance or higher that the technology technology could kill all humans.
[00:02:09] humans. Their boss is this man Jack Jack Clark, a Brit and founder of
[00:02:13] of the company. Speaking exclusively exclusively to the BBC from Silicon
[00:02:16] Silicon Valley. How have you and and your industry let this happen?
[00:02:19] happen? What's happened is the technology technology has got substantially
[00:02:22] substantially more powerful and those those risks which were once academic
[00:02:26] academic or theorised, we can now now see the early signs of them.
[00:02:29] them. What do you specifically think
[00:02:31] think here is the risk. It sort of
[00:02:34] of swarms of AI taking over the internet, internet, closing down power stations
[00:02:37] stations or wiping out financial financial institutions. I think it's
[00:02:41] it's time to sort of spell out what what it practically means. The basic
[00:02:45] basic risk is how well do you fancy fancy your chances at being able
[00:02:47] able to deal with the risks of a a system that is 100 times smarter
[00:02:51] smarter than the smartest person person on the planet? I think that
[00:02:54] that your chance of dealing with with that and getting out in a safe
[00:02:58] safe way is pretty low. So high level
[00:03:02] level you need to control AI as a a technology because you're making making things that might be smarter
[00:03:05] smarter than people, things that that are smarter than people could
[00:03:08] could be really, really, really dangerous. It raises the question question of some sort of kill switch.
[00:03:12] switch. I mean, have you guys got
[00:03:14] got one? Can you pull the plug? I
[00:03:17] I think most most labs have different different ways of being able to pull
[00:03:20] pull the plug. And yes, of course course we have systems in place for for this, but this is the kind of
[00:03:23] of thing that you want to feed into into the larger policy conversation.
[00:03:27] conversation. Should you mandate mandate that companies definitely definitely have a kill switch? And
[00:03:30] And is that kill switch verifiable verifiable by a third party? I think
[00:03:33] think that's the kind of thing that that society is going to want to to know and might want to eventually
[00:03:37] eventually pass rules around. But
[00:03:39] But it may already be too late. It's
[00:03:41] It's not too late and I don't believe
[00:03:43] believe that we're yet at this maximal
[00:03:46] maximal kind of danger zone. But But we are close enough that we need
[00:03:49] need to be taking this seriously seriously and having national level
[00:03:52] level public conversations about about it. The bosses of the rest
[00:03:55] rest of the industry have joined joined Anthropic from Elon Musk and
[00:03:59] and ChatGPT maker OpenAI, agreeing agreeing on some sort of slowdown.
[00:04:03] slowdown. President Trump, on the the other hand, did not criticising
[00:04:06] criticising the company, saying fears fears were a hoax and that the only
[00:04:09] only control needed was him. We're
[00:04:11] We're seeing increasing calls for
[00:04:14] for nations to get together and establish establish some base rules around
[00:04:18] around this, and this has happened happened in the past with technologies
[00:04:21] technologies which we call dual use use that can be used for good and
[00:04:23] and ill. And let's not forget AI AI is going to deliver extraordinary
[00:04:27] extraordinary benefits to us, but but we need to be very alert to the
[00:04:30] the harms to. Right now, AI investment investment seems to be boosting the
[00:04:34] the UK economy, and there are some some promises of AI cures for cancer.
[00:04:38] cancer. Jack Clark team, though,
[00:04:40] though, said unchecked the economic economic impact could be unprecedented.
[00:04:44] unprecedented. White collar unemployment. unemployment. When you put it all
[00:04:47] all together, is it really worth worth it? Does it cause you sleepless
[00:04:50] sleepless nights? What might happen?
[00:04:53] happen? I mean, of course we have have to get this right. I think if
[00:04:57] if we get this technology right,
[00:04:59] right, we are going to change the the world in so many positive ways.
[00:05:03] ways. We are going to genuinely change change the face of science, change
[00:05:06] change the face of healthcare. We're We're going to expand the frontiers
[00:05:09] frontiers of what you or I or any any of our children could ever do.
[00:05:12] do. And if we get it wrong, we are
[00:05:16] are going to massively disrupt the the economy immiserated people and
[00:05:20] and potentially cause harm. The message message that the world still has
[00:05:23] has choices over the pace of artificial artificial intelligence. But time
[00:05:25] time is running out. Faisal Islam,
[00:05:28] Islam, BBC News. Well, the stark stark warnings about AI come amid
[00:05:32] amid a race between America and China China to become the dominant player.
[00:05:35] player. President Xi is due to visit visit Washington later this month.
[00:05:38] month. Our China correspondent Laura
[00:05:40] Laura Bicker is in Beijing and giving
[00:05:43] giving us a China's side of the story.
[00:05:46] story. When it comes to a slowdown. slowdown. China hasn't explicitly
[00:05:49] explicitly reacted to that. What What they have said is they've pushed
[00:05:53] pushed back against any claims that
[00:05:55] that China's development in artificial
[00:05:58] artificial intelligence poses any
[00:06:01] any international security risks. risks. However, it is worth pointing
[00:06:03] pointing out that this debate has
[00:06:06] has erupted at a time when the two two superpowers are scheduled to
[00:06:09] to meet. There was that meeting here here in China earlier this year,
[00:06:13] year, and now Donald Trump will welcome welcome Xi Jinping is scheduled to
[00:06:17] to welcome Xi Jinping next week. week. So there is a lot of pressure pressure on both leaders to come
[00:06:20] come up with some kind of plan. China
[00:06:24] China has long advocated for more more global governance of artificial
[00:06:28] artificial intelligence. President President Xi Jinping did it again
[00:06:31] again at a summit in India at the
[00:06:34] the weekend, calling for an international international framework and for more
[00:06:37] more sharing of technology. And I I think that is where there is going
[00:06:41] going to be many sticking points points because when it comes to both
[00:06:44] both countries approach to AI, it
[00:06:46] it is very, very different. China China advocates a more open source
[00:06:49] source approach sharing of technology technology where it will help innovation.
[00:06:53] innovation. But China may also see
[00:06:55] see any calls for a slowdown as a
[00:06:57] a way to curb its development. Laura
[00:07:01] Laura Bicker there in Beijing. Well, Well, let's discuss all of this with
[00:07:05] with AI specialist Lisa Martin. Lisa,
[00:07:07] Lisa, good to have you on the programme.
[00:07:10] programme. So of course the Jack Jack Clark interview that we've got
[00:07:14] got exclusively here at the BBC,
[00:07:16] BBC, adding to the many voices warning
[00:07:19] warning about AI. But as President President Trump is concerned, he
[00:07:22] he says, who wins in AI wins. And
[00:07:25] And we all know he likes to be a
[00:07:27] a winner. We do. Thank you for having
[00:07:30] having me so much. I think what we
[00:07:32] we need globally when we think about about AI, I really leaned into what
[00:07:36] what Jack Clark said because I think
[00:07:40] think regardless, every company needs
[00:07:41] needs an ability to stop AI. I do
[00:07:44] do think the kill switch term, I
[00:07:47] I think it makes it sound simpler simpler than it is. But if you like
[00:07:51] like distil this issue, the biggest biggest issue here is human control.
[00:07:55] control. We know that AI is moving moving so fast right from answering
[00:07:59] answering our questions to now taking
[00:08:01] taking actions for us with AI. So
[00:08:03] So we're not just giving these systems systems more intelligence any more,
[00:08:06] more, we're giving them more authority.
[00:08:08] authority. And authority is is access
[00:08:11] access to data, to software, to networks.
[00:08:14] networks. So what I want to know
[00:08:15] know from every tech company is what
[00:08:18] what can your AI access? What is
[00:08:20] is it authorised to do and not to
[00:08:22] to do? Who can revoke that authority?
[00:08:26] authority? And can you contain it it or stop it if something goes wrong?
[00:08:29] wrong? I think Jack Clark makes a a very important point. Like don't
[00:08:32] don't just take the AI companies companies word for it. And I believe
[00:08:35] believe this firmly test it right, right, audit it independently, verify
[00:08:38] verify it. I say yes because if we
[00:08:41] we give AI the authority to act, act, which we are doing more and
[00:08:45] and more humans have got to remain remain the authority to stop it.
[00:08:49] it. OK. Now we've mentioned that
[00:08:51] that President Xi is coming to the the United States at the end of the
[00:08:55] the month. He's going to have a meeting meeting with President Trump. They They have an awful lot on their agenda,
[00:08:59] agenda, but this is bound to be discussed.
[00:09:01] discussed. I just wonder to what
[00:09:03] what extent we could hope for the
[00:09:06] the two seeing eye to eye on this this matter. Interestingly, over
[00:09:10] over the weekend we had the first first public statement in China from
[00:09:14] from the Ministry of State Security, Security, which detailed threats
[00:09:17] threats the technology presents to
[00:09:20] to China, including China's cyber
[00:09:22] cyber defences, sensitive data and
[00:09:24] and military apparatus. So there
[00:09:26] there are some warnings in China
[00:09:29] China as well. There's also warnings warnings here in America like what
[00:09:33] what when President Trump said on
[00:09:35] on Sunday, he said whoever wins AI
[00:09:37] AI wins. And I that concerned me
[00:09:41] me because, well, we know that I'm. I'm. And I'm here in Silicon Valley,
[00:09:44] Valley, America can't slow down while
[00:09:46] while we let China keep racing ahead.
[00:09:48] ahead. But I do think President Trump Trump has a point about the stakes,
[00:09:52] stakes, right? He talks about AI AI leadership, but what it means
[00:09:55] means more and more is beyond geopolitical geopolitical power. It's economic
[00:09:59] economic power. It's also military military power and geopolitical.
[00:10:03] geopolitical. And so I as an American, American, I want America and its
[00:10:06] its allies to maintain the technological
[00:10:08] technological advantage. But I don't
[00:10:11] don't think we should confuse. We We know that, Lisa. We know that
[00:10:13] that the US wants the technology, technology, technological advantage.
[00:10:17] advantage. So so does China. I would would imagine the EU and the UK if
[00:10:20] if we were anywhere close, we would would be saying the same thing. But
[00:10:23] But the problem is will there be
[00:10:26] be collaboration on a global level
[00:10:28] level to prevent the innovation from
[00:10:31] from becoming dangerous? And that's that's what remains to be seen. Even
[00:10:35] Even Dario Amodei from Anthropic
[00:10:37] Anthropic is saying that it's not
[00:10:40] not just a Anthropic OpenAI slowing
[00:10:43] slowing down, it's that eventual
[00:10:47] eventual collaboration with China. China. He. Dario he's not he didn't
[00:10:50] didn't say over the weekend that that America, you should stop innovating.
[00:10:54] innovating. He's saying, can we maintain
[00:10:56] maintain our lead while giving our our ability to understand, to secure
[00:11:00] secure and control these systems?
[00:11:02] systems? Can we keep that pace? I
[00:11:05] I don't think honestly, getting there
[00:11:08] there first is winning. If whoever
[00:11:10] whoever gets there first can't control
[00:11:12] control it when we arrive and we we have to have global participation. All right, Lisa, thanks
[00:11:16] thanks for your time. It's good to to pick your brains. Lisa Martin
[00:11:19] Martin there. And we shall have more
[00:11:22] more on that in business as you would would expect. Now here in the UK,
[00:11:25] UK, the findings from a public inquiry
[00:11:27] inquiry into how Lucy Letby was able
[00:11:29] able to repeatedly murder and harm harm babies will be published today.
[00:11:33] today. The Thirwall inquiry was set set up to look into what happened
[00:11:37] happened at the Countess of Chester
[00:11:42] Chester Hospital between 2015 and and 2016, while Letby was working
[00:11:44] working as a nurse in the neonatal
[00:11:46] neonatal unit. Now aged 36 years
[00:11:49] years old, Letby is serving 15 whole
[00:11:52] whole life prison terms for murdering murdering seven babies and attempting
[00:11:55] attempting to murder seven others.
[00:11:57] others. The inquiry was not tasked
[00:12:00] tasked with examining Letby guilt. guilt. There's more detail on this
[00:12:03] this story on the BBC News website website and app, and we'll have more
[00:12:07] more on that story today as today
[00:12:09] today progresses here on BBC News. News. Yemen's Houthi movement says
[00:12:13] says Saudi Arabia has launched renewed renewed air strikes across the west
[00:12:17] west of the country after the Iran Iran backed group announced it targeted
[00:12:20] targeted military bases in the kingdom.
[00:12:22] kingdom. The Houthis said the Saudi
[00:12:24] Saudi attacks hit areas including
[00:12:27] including these Al-jawf and Hodeidah. Hodeidah. The group had earlier targeted
[00:12:31] targeted the King Khalid air base base in southern Saudi Arabia. The
[00:12:34] The extent of the damage in both both attacks has not been verified
[00:12:37] verified and there's been no reaction reaction from Riyadh. Last week,
[00:12:41] week, the Houthis seized control control of Yemen's Red Sea coast
[00:12:44] coast and the Bab Al-mandab straight straight from Jerusalem. Our Middle
[00:12:47] Middle East correspondent Hugo Bachega
[00:12:50] Bachega has more detail. The Houthis Houthis say they fired dozens of
[00:12:53] of missiles and drones at a military
[00:12:56] military base in southern Saudi Arabia,
[00:12:58] Arabia, targeting radar systems, systems, runways and ammunition depots,
[00:13:02] depots, and there were emergency emergency alerts issued by the Saudi
[00:13:05] Saudi authorities for several locations
[00:13:07] locations around this base and in in Yemen. Government forces supported
[00:13:11] supported by Saudi Arabia are trying trying to fight back. The Houthis
[00:13:15] Houthis have accused Saudi Arabia
[00:13:17] Arabia of carrying out more than
[00:13:20] than 300 air strikes in the past past five days. This has been a rapid
[00:13:24] rapid advance by the Houthis, capturing
[00:13:26] capturing a key territory along the
[00:13:28] the Red Sea. And the fear here is
[00:13:30] is that this could reignite the civil
[00:13:33] civil war in Yemen. The United Nations
[00:13:35] Nations says that more than 80,000
[00:13:38] 80,000 people have already been displaced displaced because of the fighting,
[00:13:41] fighting, and we still don't know know if the Houthis will try to seize
[00:13:45] seize even more territory or if there
[00:13:48] there will be a larger offensive
[00:13:50] offensive by the government and its
[00:13:52] its allies. But the violence in Yemen
[00:13:54] Yemen is also putting pressure on on energy supplies because the Red
[00:13:58] Red Sea has become a key alternative
[00:14:01] alternative for Saudi oil exports. exports. Given that the Strait of
[00:14:04] of Hormuz has been effectively closed
[00:14:07] closed because of the US war against
[00:14:09] against Iran. And it isn't clear
[00:14:11] clear if the Houthis have the ability
[00:14:13] ability or are planning to disrupt
[00:14:16] disrupt a shipment in this vital
[00:14:19] vital waterway. And finally, reports
[00:14:20] reports say that a crucial Saudi
[00:14:23] Saudi pipeline that was struck in in a drone attack a few days ago
[00:14:26] ago is likely to remain closed for
[00:14:30] for a few weeks for the damage to
[00:14:33] to be repaired, and this could squeeze
[00:14:35] squeeze oil prices even further.
[00:14:39] further. Hugo Bachega in Jerusalem Jerusalem there well, several Gulf
[00:14:41] Gulf states are struggling amid this this stalemate between the US and
[00:14:44] and Iran. It comes as an emergency
[00:14:46] emergency summit due on Monday between
[00:14:49] between Iran and Arab Gulf nations nations was postponed. That was supposed
[00:14:52] supposed to lead to perhaps the reopening reopening of the Strait of Hormuz.
[00:14:56] Hormuz. Iran's foreign ministry said said that Saudi Arabia has called
[00:14:59] called for the meeting to be put
[00:15:01] put on hold indefinitely. Alia Al
[00:15:03] Al Khalid is a former member of Kuwait's
[00:15:05] Kuwait's National Assembly and explained explained how her country is being
[00:15:09] being affected. Kuwait Air Defence Defence has repeatedly intercepted
[00:15:13] intercepted Iranian ballistic missiles missiles and drones, and some of
[00:15:16] of those strikes affected energy energy facilities and have caused
[00:15:19] caused some infrastructure damage damage and electricity, electricity
[00:15:23] electricity plants and some oil fields
[00:15:25] fields and multiple injuries among
[00:15:27] among personnel and workers at those
[00:15:30] those areas. The blockage of the
[00:15:32] the Strait of Hormuz by Iran has
[00:15:35] has severely restricted Kuwait primary
[00:15:37] primary shipping lanes, causing a
[00:15:40] a backlog in oil exports and increasing
[00:15:44] increasing state revenues. So therefore,
[00:15:47] therefore, to combat mounting budget
[00:15:50] budget deficit that Kuwait is suffering
[00:15:53] suffering from and massive reconstruction reconstruction costs, the Kuwaiti
[00:15:57] Kuwaiti government issued emergency
[00:15:59] emergency decrees allowing it to
[00:16:02] to borrow up to 10% from its future
[00:16:06] future Generation Fund. And the price
[00:16:08] price of oil is currently $107 more more than that. A barrel of a barrel
[00:16:12] barrel of Brent on global markets markets will be looking at all the
[00:16:15] the implications in business. Also Also still to come, British success
[00:16:19] success at the Emmys. Matthew Reese
[00:16:21] Reese makes history with two best
[00:16:24] best lead Actor awards Kate O'Flynn
[00:16:26] O'Flynn and Alan coming also take take home trophies around the
[00:17:30] interviews, results and goals as as we follow every twist of the Premier
[00:17:33] Premier League season here
[00:17:39] BBC News. You're with BBC News.
[00:17:43] Prince Harry's complained repeatedly repeatedly that the removal of the
[00:17:47] the publicly funded security he had
[00:17:50] had as an active royal is no longer
[00:17:52] longer in place. He said it has left left him and his family at risk,
[00:17:55] risk, even challenging it in the
[00:17:57] the courts. It has now emerged his his security will be reviewed again
[00:18:01] again for him and the family. The The committee, which oversees royal
[00:18:04] royal and VIP security known as Ravec,
[00:18:07] Ravec, is to reconsider the level level of protection provided. Elinor
[00:18:11] Elinor Rice has more. It was the
[00:18:13] the first glimpse into the new life life of the Sussex family. An Instagram
[00:18:17] Instagram video posted by Meghan, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex showing
[00:18:21] showing five-year-old Lilibet and and seven-year-old Archie their faces
[00:18:24] faces hidden enjoying a trip out. out. But now a spokesperson for the
[00:18:27] the family has confirmed the children children have had to change schools.
[00:18:30] schools. Just days into the new school school term. The locations of the
[00:18:34] the schools were of course kept private private but even so, it's understood
[00:18:38] understood that there were concerns concerns from the family's security
[00:18:41] security team about the practicalities practicalities of their first choice.
[00:18:44] choice. Prince Harry and his wife wife Meghan lost their publicly funded
[00:18:48] funded security when they stepped stepped back from royal duties and
[00:18:50] and moved to the US in January 2020.
[00:18:53] 2020. The Duke of Sussex appealed appealed that decision, made by Ravec,
[00:18:57] Ravec, an independent body overseen overseen by the Home Office in the
[00:19:00] the court last May and lost. For For the time being. It's impossible
[00:19:03] impossible for me to take my family family back to the UK. I can't see
[00:19:07] see a world in which I would be bringing bringing my wife and children back
[00:19:10] back to the UK at this point, is is it totally normal? But this summer
[00:19:13] summer the family did come back first first on holiday where Harry appeared
[00:19:17] appeared at various charity events. events. And now for what's been described
[00:19:20] described as an extended period of of time. As a result, it's understood
[00:19:24] understood the Sussexes will be given given a review of their publicly publicly funded security now that
[00:19:28] that they are full-time residents residents rather than visitors. The
[00:19:31] The King has made clear the pair pair will not be working royals and
[00:19:35] and will not carry out official engagements. engagements. But their security may
[00:19:38] may yet be stepped up as if they
[00:19:41] they were Elinor Rice. BBC News.
[00:19:44] News. Builders TV's biggest night night the Primetime Emmy Awards have
[00:19:47] have been taking place in Los Angeles. Angeles. Winners so far include talk
[00:19:51] talk show host Stephen Colbert. The
[00:19:54] The total number of trophies awarded awarded this year was reduced, with
[00:19:58] with some categories merged to make make room for more sketches and musical
[00:20:02] musical performances, including a a tribute to the late singer and
[00:20:06] and Emmy winner Dolly Parton. So
[00:20:09] So Allison Janney you might remember remember her from The West Wing.
[00:20:11] Wing. She made history with her eighth eighth award. She won Outstanding
[00:20:15] Outstanding Supporting Actress in in the drama The Diplomat. Meanwhile,
[00:20:19] Meanwhile, the big headline is, of of course all about the Welsh actor
[00:20:22] actor Matthew Rhys because he has has made history for the very first
[00:20:26] first time. He has won two lead actor
[00:20:30] actor categories on the same night night and that's for his work in
[00:20:33] in Widow's Bay and The Beast in Me.
[00:20:35] Me. The pop superstar Taylor Swift
[00:20:37] Swift missed the Emmy Awards in favour
[00:20:40] favour of an NFL game as she cheered
[00:20:42] cheered on her husband Travis Kelce.
[00:20:45] Kelce. However, she did make a cameo cameo appearance at the awards to
[00:20:49] to tell us all about it. We've got got our North America correspondent
[00:20:52] correspondent David Willis in LA LA suited and booted for the event.
[00:20:55] event. Hello, David. I was just. Like you like this for you,
[00:20:58] you, Sally. Of course. A very important important person to talk to. But
[00:21:02] But yes, it was. We expect nothing nothing less. Tell us more. That's
[00:21:05] That's right. Very big night for
[00:21:07] for Widow's Bay. And as you mentioned,
[00:21:10] mentioned, that is a hit TV series series that four months ago nobody
[00:21:14] nobody here had even heard of. But
[00:21:16] But it has become a smash hit both
[00:21:19] both with the critics and with viewers.
[00:21:22] viewers. Very much word of mouth
[00:21:24] mouth hit if you like, but it picked
[00:21:28] picked up 14 Emmy Awards tonight,
[00:21:30] tonight, including, as you mentioned, mentioned, one for Matthew Rhys.
[00:21:33] Rhys. He got two Emmys in total and
[00:21:36] and that sets a record. He also is
[00:21:39] is the first actor to win awards
[00:21:42] awards in all three Emmy genre categories
[00:21:48] categories for the for acting, for for comedy, for drama and for limited
[00:21:52] limited series. So a very, very big
[00:21:55] big night for him and also for his
[00:21:58] his co-star Kate O'Flynn, who plays
[00:22:01] plays alongside him in Widow's Bay.
[00:22:04] Bay. She was nominated for her first
[00:22:06] first Emmy and she won it and she
[00:22:09] she said it was a dream come true.
[00:22:12] true. Yeah, fantastic win. The Brits
[00:22:14] Brits did really well. Talk us through through some of the other winners
[00:22:19] winners and highlights. Well, I'll
[00:22:21] I'll tell you what. There was a record
[00:22:24] record at risk tonight that involved.
[00:22:27] involved. Gene sharp, who of course
[00:22:29] course has played in Hacks since
[00:22:32] since the series began. And Hacks
[00:22:34] Hacks started out the night with
[00:22:37] with a slew of nominations, but it
[00:22:39] it was up against Widow's Bay in
[00:22:41] in that comedy category. And basically
[00:22:44] basically the fifth and final season
[00:22:46] season went largely unmarked, although although she did get as the star
[00:22:50] star of the show a fifth consecutive consecutive award, a Gary Oldman.
[00:22:54] Oldman. You mentioned Brits there
[00:22:56] there was up for a best actor for
[00:22:58] for the third year in succession
[00:23:01] succession for his portrayal of the
[00:23:04] the spymaster in Slow Horses, but but he was beaten to the post for
[00:23:08] for a third time by the star of The
[00:23:11] The Pitt. Noel Wiley. It's worth worth mentioning The Pitt Sally,
[00:23:15] Sally, because that went into these
[00:23:19] these nominations with 25 nominees nominees and in actual fact it picked
[00:23:21] picked up as well. The best actor
[00:23:24] actor and the best drama, which is is the biggest award, of course,
[00:23:27] course, of the night at the Emmys. Emmys. And I know it was a very,
[00:23:31] very, very moving moment when Michael
[00:23:32] Michael J. Fox appeared on stage
[00:23:36] stage in his wheelchair. He was given given a standing ovation as he received
[00:23:39] received the Bob Hope Humanitarian
[00:23:42] Humanitarian Award for his tireless tireless campaigning for Parkinson's
[00:23:46] Parkinson's disease. A very moving
[00:23:49] moving moment, one of a number Michael
[00:23:50] Michael J. Fox making a very humble
[00:23:54] humble speech and having a standing
[00:23:56] standing ovation as he took to the
[00:23:58] the Emmys stage the Peacock Theatre
[00:24:01] Theatre in downtown Los Angeles tonight.
[00:24:03] tonight. A tribute was also paid, paid, as you'd expect, to Dolly Parton,
[00:24:06] Parton, who passed away three weeks
[00:24:10] weeks ago and president on stage
[00:24:12] stage as well. Tonight were three
[00:24:15] three of the original members of
[00:24:17] of Charlie's Angels. Remember that
[00:24:19] that they were marking the 50th anniversary
[00:24:22] anniversary of that hit TV show. show. We love it. We love it. Charlie's
[00:24:26] Charlie's Angels, what a wonderful wonderful memory. David, thank you
[00:24:29] you so much. It's good to get your your take on the Emmys. And just
[00:24:32] just to say, if you want to see all all the glamour and the glitz and
[00:24:36] and all the outfits, it's all on on our website. That's the image
[00:24:38] image there, as you can see of Michael
[00:24:40] Michael J. Fox, who got a hero's hero's welcome, welcome, a standing
[00:24:44] standing ovation. He's now 65 and and he talked about the fact that
[00:24:48] that he was diagnosed at the age
[00:24:50] age of 29 with Parkinson's, but kept
[00:24:53] kept the condition secret for a very very long time. He was really concerned
[00:24:57] concerned it would affect his work,
[00:24:58] work, his relationships with audiences.
[00:25:01] audiences. And it was a very moving moving speech he made there. So you
[00:25:04] you can have a look at that and all all the other news about the Emmys,
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