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[00:00:10] Live from London. This is BBC News. The United States confirms
[00:00:14] confirms for the first time its deployed deployed space weapons. China urges
[00:00:18] urges the US to stop preparing for
[00:00:20] for war in space. Authorities in in Lithuania locate the debris of
[00:00:24] of a drone that entered EU airspace
[00:00:27] airspace overnight and was shot down
[00:00:29] down by Nato jets. The co-founder
[00:00:32] co-founder of Anthropic says AI firms firms may need a compulsory kill
[00:00:36] kill switch to stop the technology technology spiralling out of control.
[00:00:39] control. The public inquiry into into how former nurse Lucy Letby
[00:00:42] Letby was able to murder seven babies babies and attempt to kill seven
[00:00:46] seven more, is due to publish its
[00:00:48] its findings. Prince Harry and Meghan's Meghan's police protection is to
[00:00:52] to be reviewed as they change their
[00:00:54] their children's school over security
[00:00:58] security concerns and TV series. series. Widow's Bay breaks the record
[00:01:01] record for the most Emmys won by
[00:01:03] by a comedy in a single season. Welcome
[00:01:15] Welcome to BBC News. I'm Kasia Madera. Madera. The US military has confirmed
[00:01:19] confirmed that it has deployed weapons weapons in space. It's believed to
[00:01:22] to be the first public acknowledgement
[00:01:25] acknowledgement by Washington of of such capabilities. Officials say
[00:01:27] say that weapons are already in operation
[00:01:30] operation and capable of defending defending American assets. Now in
[00:01:33] in response, China has urged the
[00:01:35] the US to stop preparing for war
[00:01:38] war in space. And in just the last last few hours, we've been hearing
[00:01:41] hearing from China and the reaction reaction there to this news. Here's
[00:01:45] Here's what their foreign ministry ministry spokesperson had to say.
[00:01:48] say. China has always been committed committed to the peaceful use of
[00:01:51] of outer space and safeguarding security security in outer space. We urge
[00:01:55] urge the US to stop its military military build up and war preparations
[00:01:58] preparations in outer space, and and take concrete actions to safeguard
[00:02:02] safeguard global strategic stability. stability. Well, CBS correspondent
[00:02:06] correspondent Bradley Blackburn explains explains what the US Space Force
[00:02:09] Force actually is. Well, Kasia the the US Space Force was created during
[00:02:13] during the first Trump administration administration as a new branch of
[00:02:16] of the US military with a mandate
[00:02:18] mandate to protect and defend American American interests in space. And
[00:02:21] And we know that they have been preparing preparing for what real life Star
[00:02:24] Star Wars might look like. Space Space warfighting. But as you said,
[00:02:28] said, this is the first time that that we know of when operational
[00:02:31] operational ability has been publicly publicly acknowledged with space space based weapons. And what have
[00:02:35] have they said about what? What is
[00:02:38] is this on orbit weapon? What have have they explained as to what is
[00:02:42] is going on up there? Not a lot of
[00:02:47] of detail, right? Kasia but they
[00:02:48] they do say that this weapon is capable
[00:02:51] capable of kinetic and non-kinetic non-kinetic action and that it could
[00:02:54] could be used for defensive and offensive
[00:02:57] offensive purposes, including potentially potentially destruction in space.
[00:03:01] space. So you can imagine that this this is something that might be able
[00:03:04] able to target satellites, but they they aren't saying Kasia exactly
[00:03:07] exactly what the payload is on this
[00:03:09] this weapon or how it works. So they're they're not saying much. China has has said something though. Just talk
[00:03:13] talk us through their reaction because because they are really not impressed
[00:03:16] impressed with what we're hearing
[00:03:17] hearing from the US. Yeah, they are
[00:03:21] are saying that they're warning about
[00:03:23] about an arms race in space here,
[00:03:26] here, warning about the US encouraging encouraging further development and
[00:03:30] and saying that the US should stand stand down from trying to develop
[00:03:33] develop this capability. But Kasia Kasia that is not likely because
[00:03:36] because we know that US leaders are
[00:03:38] are very concerned about Chinese Chinese and Russian abilities in
[00:03:42] in space, and particularly the potential
[00:03:45] potential of those adversaries targeting targeting US resources there, like
[00:03:49] like satellite technology. A few few years ago, lawmakers warned about
[00:03:53] about Russia's development of a space space based weapon that could go
[00:03:56] go after satellites in low orbit. orbit. And when you think about it,
[00:03:59] it, the US in particular is very
[00:04:01] very reliant on satellite technology technology for telecommunications,
[00:04:05] telecommunications, GPs navigation navigation systems and phones and and cars, spy satellites that are
[00:04:09] are critical for intelligence gathering. gathering. And all of those are potential
[00:04:12] potential targets in space for an an adversary. And so that is one
[00:04:16] one of the mandates for the Space Space Force here to protect those
[00:04:18] those assets. Bradley Blackburn they're they're from our partner station,
[00:04:22] station, CBS, with a little bit more
[00:04:24] more detail. Let's unpack some of
[00:04:26] of what we're learning right now.
[00:04:28] now. Juliana Suess is the associate associate of strategic threat at
[00:04:32] at the German Institute for International International and Security Affairs,
[00:04:35] Affairs, and Giuliana is an expert expert on space security. We were
[00:04:38] were hearing that we don't have many many details, but the understanding
[00:04:41] understanding is this is something something that has kinetic and non-kinetic
[00:04:44] non-kinetic actions. It can potentially
[00:04:46] potentially be defensive and offensive.
[00:04:49] offensive. What is your assessment assessment about what has been sent
[00:04:51] sent up there? Well, as you say,
[00:04:54] say, we don't currently know what
[00:04:57] what exactly what exact capabilities capabilities this weapon has. Obviously
[00:05:00] Obviously knowing that it could have
[00:05:02] have kinetic or non kinetic capabilities
[00:05:04] capabilities does suggest it's perhaps perhaps more than just a signal jammer
[00:05:08] jammer for example, because if we
[00:05:10] we look at the spectrum of yeah,
[00:05:12] yeah, counterspace capabilities, capabilities, we have a spectrum
[00:05:16] spectrum leading from temporary and
[00:05:17] and reversible effects all the way
[00:05:20] way to the kinetic end of the spectrum. spectrum. So that's what we're talking
[00:05:22] talking about. Permanent damage non-reversible non-reversible effects on satellites.
[00:05:26] satellites. So this could be a number number of capabilities. Obviously
[00:05:29] Obviously we'll have to we'll have have to wait for further statements. statements. At the same time, the
[00:05:33] the US Space Force has said that
[00:05:36] that this is a strategic decision decision to not disclose further further information. So we might
[00:05:39] might wait for quite some time. This
[00:05:42] This is the first. Time that the the US has confirmed it's deployed
[00:05:46] deployed a space weapon in Earth's Earth's orbit, the first time it's
[00:05:50] it's acknowledged such offensive offensive capabilities. Is there there a potential that it could have
[00:05:53] have done this without giving any any details about this, that there
[00:05:57] there could actually be more of these these types of weapons up in Earth's
[00:06:01] Earth's orbit? So while it is possible,
[00:06:05] possible, I would, however, warn warn that space situational awareness
[00:06:08] awareness and space domain awareness awareness capability. So radars that
[00:06:11] that are able to look into space space and discern what kind of capabilities,
[00:06:14] capabilities, what kind of satellites satellites are up there are getting
[00:06:17] getting better. Space is becoming becoming much more transparent as
[00:06:20] as a domain, not just for the US
[00:06:23] US but also for China, Russia, but
[00:06:26] but also through the advances in in the commercial sector. So space space is becoming more transparent.
[00:06:30] transparent. We are seeing more of of what's up there. So while it is
[00:06:34] is technically possible that, you you know, assets are placed up there
[00:06:37] there without us exactly knowing knowing what kind of capabilities capabilities they harbour, I feel
[00:06:41] feel like that or that probability
[00:06:43] probability is dwindling. Senior
[00:06:46] Senior US military leaders, they
[00:06:48] they point to Russia and China's
[00:06:50] China's programmes. They say that that potentially they're developing
[00:06:53] developing ways to attack and disrupt
[00:06:56] disrupt US satellites in, in possible
[00:06:59] possible future conflict. Talk us us through what's your understanding understanding as to what other nations
[00:07:03] nations are doing, in particular particular China and Russia? So in
[00:07:07] in general, we are seeing a very
[00:07:09] very you know, dynamic, vastly accelerating accelerating domain in space. So,
[00:07:13] So, you know, specifically if we're we're looking at Russia and China,
[00:07:16] China, you know, for Russia, for for example, we have seen certain
[00:07:19] certain space activities that could could point towards potential weapon
[00:07:23] weapon tests. For example, we have
[00:07:25] have seen satellites, you know, I
[00:07:27] I would say spit out other yeah,
[00:07:30] yeah, other assets potentially projectiles, projectiles, for example, at the
[00:07:33] the velocities at which they were
[00:07:35] were dispensed. Likewise for China,
[00:07:37] China, we have seen certain space
[00:07:39] space activities and tests, for example, example, where other satellites were
[00:07:43] were manoeuvred through the use of of robotic arms. Obviously, all these
[00:07:47] these tests, whenever they were carried carried out, were carried out on
[00:07:50] on their own satellites. So they they did not sort of cross the red
[00:07:53] red line of actually damaging or or interfering with or interfering
[00:07:56] interfering physically with other
[00:07:58] other satellites. But they have demonstrated
[00:08:01] demonstrated capability of interfering interfering with other satellites.
[00:08:03] satellites. Obviously, this also also comes on top of the kinetic
[00:08:07] kinetic anti-satellite weapons tests tests that both China and Russia
[00:08:09] Russia have carried out in 2007 and
[00:08:13] and 2021, respectively. Really interesting. interesting. Thanks for your expertise. expertise. Really appreciate it.
[00:08:17] it. Giuliana Zohar from the German German Institute for International International and Security Affairs.
[00:08:21] Affairs. Thank you. And as our previous previous guest said, they're all
[00:08:24] all at it. So it's certainly a developing developing story, so we'll have to
[00:08:27] to keep an eye on that. The President President of Lithuania says that
[00:08:30] that Nato fighter jets have shot shot down a drone that entered the
[00:08:34] the country's airspace overnight. overnight. This was the moment that
[00:08:37] that the drone was brought down by
[00:08:39] by Italian Nato jets in central Lithuania,
[00:08:41] Lithuania, near the city of Kaunas. Kaunas. The interception, caught
[00:08:45] caught by a resident security camera. camera. The debris, which was scattered
[00:08:49] scattered over a wide area, is now now being collected and examined
[00:08:52] examined by military police. It's It's the latest security incident
[00:08:56] incident in the Baltic states since since Russia launched its full-scale
[00:08:59] full-scale invasion of Ukraine back
[00:09:01] back in 2022. Well, posting on X,
[00:09:04] X, the UK Defence Secretary Wes Streeting Streeting has said thanks to the
[00:09:07] the swift and professional actions actions of Lithuanian and Italian
[00:09:11] Italian forces, Nato once again demonstrated demonstrated our readiness to protect
[00:09:15] protect our airspace. We stand united united around the clock in defence
[00:09:18] defence of every inch of Nato territory.
[00:09:21] territory. Well, in a separate development, development, Denmark has reported
[00:09:24] reported that a Russian frigate fired fired two flares towards a Danish
[00:09:28] Danish military helicopter off its its coast on Monday, narrowly missing
[00:09:32] missing the aircraft. The incident incident happened during a routine
[00:09:34] routine Danish military mission to to photograph a Russian frigate.
[00:09:38] frigate. Russia's ambassador to Denmark Denmark has been summoned. All this
[00:09:41] this comes as Russia launches jet jet powered drone attacks on Ukraine.
[00:09:45] Ukraine. The head of the country's country's state Post Office of Ukraine
[00:09:48] Ukraine has told the BBC that Russia Russia is deliberately targeting
[00:09:51] targeting his branches and his delivery delivery vans. Our Eastern Europe
[00:09:55] Europe correspondent Sarah Rainsford
[00:09:56] Rainsford has this report from Vilnius.
[00:09:59] Vilnius. It was just after midnight midnight this morning here in Vilnius Vilnius that my phone screeched with
[00:10:03] with an alert and when I checked checked the message it said there
[00:10:06] there was a suspected drone. Keep Keep safe, it said, and wait for
[00:10:10] for the all clear. Now that all clear clear came about 20 minutes later
[00:10:14] later and we now know that there there was a drone confirmed that
[00:10:17] that it was in Lithuanian airspace airspace for around about half an an hour before it was intercepted
[00:10:21] intercepted and shot down by Nato
[00:10:22] Nato fighter jets belonging to Italy.
[00:10:25] Italy. We still don't know who that that drone belonged to. We don't don't know whether it was launched
[00:10:29] launched deliberately or it might might have strayed into Lithuanian
[00:10:31] Lithuanian airspace. We know that that it entered from neighbouring
[00:10:35] neighbouring Belarus and that after after it was shot down, the debris debris was scattered over a wide
[00:10:39] wide area. So it's being collected collected up and examined to see
[00:10:42] see where it came from, who it was was launched by and whether or not
[00:10:46] not it was armed. In fact, whether whether or not there was any explosives.
[00:10:50] explosives. But this has happened happened at a nervous time here in
[00:10:53] in this region because Russia is is escalating its full-scale war
[00:10:57] war on Ukraine, and it is also escalating escalating its hybrid attacks on
[00:11:01] on Ukraine's greatest supporters. supporters. Vilnius, Lithuania has
[00:11:04] has always been a staunch supporter supporter of Ukraine ever since the
[00:11:07] the full-scale invasion. This city city is still covered in Ukrainian
[00:11:11] Ukrainian flags. There's lots of
[00:11:14] of messages of solidarity for Kyiv
[00:11:16] Kyiv here in this city, in this country,
[00:11:20] country, in the past, when there there have been drone incursions incursions into other countries,
[00:11:23] countries, including Poland and other other Baltic states, experts have
[00:11:27] have suggested that Moscow could could be testing Nato's reactions.
[00:11:30] reactions. At the moment here in in Lithuania, there are still more
[00:11:32] more questions than answers, but
[00:11:35] but certainly there is now a full-scale full-scale investigation into what
[00:11:38] what happened and who might be behind behind it. Sarah Rainsford in Vilnius.
[00:11:41] Vilnius. Of course, the capital of
[00:11:44] of Lithuania. The co-founder of one one of the world's biggest artificial
[00:11:48] artificial intelligence companies companies has told the BBC that AI
[00:11:50] AI firms may need a compulsory kill
[00:11:53] kill switch to prevent the technology technology spiralling out of control.
[00:11:57] control. Anthropic Jack Clark says says AI is getting smarter and more
[00:12:00] more capable every few months, which which could become a major risk to
[00:12:04] to society. President Trump has angrily angrily rejected calls to slow down
[00:12:07] down the development of AI, describing describing fears that it poses a
[00:12:11] a threat to humanity as a big hoax.
[00:12:13] hoax. Well, our chief political correspondent correspondent Henry Zeffman told
[00:12:16] told us about the UK government's government's response to the pace
[00:12:20] pace of AI development. It's been been striking over the past few days,
[00:12:23] days, perhaps understandably, given given these are principally American
[00:12:26] American based entrepreneurs who who are calling for greater government government regulation. We haven't
[00:12:30] haven't really heard much from the the British government and that is
[00:12:33] is going to change later today when when Louise Haig, who is essentially
[00:12:36] essentially the deputy Prime Minister, Minister, gives a speech at the annual
[00:12:40] annual conference of the Trades Union Union Congress. It's a speech that
[00:12:43] that actually Andy Burnham was going going to give. But his father died.
[00:12:45] died. So Louise Haig is giving this this speech and she will become by
[00:12:49] by far the most senior government government minister to speak about
[00:12:53] about these issues. She will say say that the government must heed
[00:12:56] heed the warnings of those who are are at the forefront of developing
[00:12:59] developing this technology. She will will say that the government is ready
[00:13:02] ready to work with international international partners to prioritise
[00:13:04] prioritise public safety and national
[00:13:07] national security. Of course. What
[00:13:09] What does it mean to work with international
[00:13:11] international partners? Given that that the UK clearly has a much smaller
[00:13:14] smaller role to play here than the the US than China, and given some
[00:13:17] some of the things that Donald Trump Trump has been saying about this this over the past few days, well,
[00:13:21] well, that I think is much less clear. clear. Well, thanks to Henry Zeffman, Zeffman, I'm back in just a moment
[00:13:25] moment after this very short break break around the world across the
[00:13:27] the UK, you are
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[00:14:31] all on The Media Show on BBC News.
[00:14:36] News. Welcome back. You are with
[00:14:38] with BBC News. The findings of a
[00:14:41] a UK public inquiry into how Lucy
[00:14:43] Lucy Letby was able to repeatedly repeatedly murder and harm babies
[00:14:46] babies will be published later today. today. The Thirlwall Inquiry was
[00:14:49] was set up to look into what happened
[00:14:52] happened at the Countess of Chester
[00:14:56] Chester Hospital between 2015 and and 2016, while Letby was working
[00:14:58] working as a nurse in the neonatal
[00:15:00] neonatal unit well. Now aged 36,
[00:15:02] 36, Letby is serving 15 whole life
[00:15:05] life prison terms. The inquiry was was not tasked with examining Letby
[00:15:08] Letby guilt as Lauren Moss now reports. reports. The offences of murder and
[00:15:12] and attempted murder have been identified identified and you have been identified
[00:15:15] identified as a suspect for these these offences. Lucy Letby, seen
[00:15:19] seen here on police body camera footage footage arrested at her home on suspicion
[00:15:23] suspicion of murdering vulnerable vulnerable babies on a neonatal hospital
[00:15:26] hospital ward. You're going to have have to go to the police station station to be questioned about these
[00:15:30] these allegations. Being a nurse nurse was her dream job. Is it a
[00:15:34] a job that you enjoyed? You care?
[00:15:39] care? Love my job. She would go on
[00:15:41] on to be convicted of murdering seven seven babies, making her the UK's
[00:15:45] UK's most prolific child serial killer
[00:15:48] killer of modern times. Now the findings findings of an inquiry looking into
[00:15:52] into how Letby was able to harm those
[00:15:54] those in her care but not reviewing reviewing her convictions, will be
[00:15:58] be published later. This whole process process has been very, very difficult
[00:16:01] difficult and at times very, very very traumatic for them. Lawyer Richard
[00:16:05] Richard Scorer represents some of
[00:16:07] of the babies families. It's very
[00:16:10] very clear that there were serious
[00:16:13] serious failings and the responsibility responsibility for ensuring that that the police were brought in and
[00:16:17] and brought in at an early stage stage when it was clear that there
[00:16:20] there was potential criminal activity, activity, that responsibility ultimately
[00:16:22] ultimately rested with the senior senior managers and they failed.
[00:16:26] failed. Between June 2015 and 2016, 2016, a number of babies collapsed
[00:16:29] collapsed and died at the Countess Countess of Chester Hospital. In
[00:16:33] In August 2023, Lucy Letby was found found guilty of murdering seven babies
[00:16:37] babies and the attempted murder of of six others. A year later, she
[00:16:40] she was convicted of the attempted attempted murder of a seventh baby
[00:16:43] baby and is serving 15 whole life
[00:16:45] life sentences in prison. The government government launched the Thirlwall
[00:16:48] Thirlwall Inquiry into what happened happened and hearings began in September
[00:16:52] September 2024. They concluded in in March last year and the report
[00:16:56] report will be published later. It
[00:16:58] It is not the actions of Lucy Letby
[00:17:01] Letby that I am scrutinising. It
[00:17:03] It is the actions of all those who who were in the hospital. What they
[00:17:07] they did at the time, in the light
[00:17:09] light of what they knew at the time time and in the light of what they
[00:17:13] they should have known at the time. time. The inquiry is taking place.
[00:17:17] place. While a campaign by some to
[00:17:19] to prove Lucy Libby's innocence has has grown in the background, her
[00:17:22] her legal team wants her convictions convictions reviewed and a group
[00:17:25] group of medical experts have questioned questioned the evidence. In summary,
[00:17:29] summary, ladies and gentlemen, we we did not find any murders. The
[00:17:32] The families of Letby's victims who who suffered at the Countess of Chester
[00:17:35] Chester Hospital. They say they hope hope the inquiry leads to lasting
[00:17:39] lasting change. The legal reality reality is that Lucy Letby has been
[00:17:42] been convicted. We have these long,
[00:17:45] long, often long running and often
[00:17:47] often expensive inquiries and they're they're very important for learning
[00:17:50] learning lessons. But often the recommendations recommendations are never implemented
[00:17:54] implemented and it's a betrayal not not just of the people who've suffered
[00:17:58] suffered in these cases. Families Families like those I represent.
[00:18:00] represent. It's actually betrayal betrayal of the public. The inquiry's
[00:18:04] inquiry's conclusions will be published published this afternoon. Lauren
[00:18:08] Lauren Moss, BBC News. Well, Emily Emily Townsend from trade magazine,
[00:18:10] magazine, the Health Service Journal Journal explains the scope of this
[00:18:14] this inquiry. The inquiry is asked
[00:18:17] asked to investigate under three three strands. So the first was parents
[00:18:20] parents experiences. So what families families were told what they were
[00:18:24] were told about Letby and whether whether she was suspected. And the
[00:18:27] the second part was the conduct of
[00:18:29] of people at the Countess of Chester.
[00:18:31] Chester. So what concerns were raised raised and when how those who raised
[00:18:35] raised them were treated? Board oversight
[00:18:37] oversight and any referrals to regulators,
[00:18:39] regulators, etc. And then the third third is the wider NHS. So whether
[00:18:43] whether previous inquiries recommendations recommendations were implemented,
[00:18:46] implemented, where gaps remain and and what structural and regulatory
[00:18:49] regulatory changes needed. And that's that's where we're expecting to see
[00:18:53] see potential regulation for senior
[00:18:55] senior managers. Before we move on
[00:18:57] on to that, just one of the key things things that people will want to know,
[00:19:00] know, and I wonder whether you will will be able to answer this, will
[00:19:03] will this report be able to answer answer whether any of those babies
[00:19:07] babies could have lived or avoided avoided injury if action had been
[00:19:10] been taken earlier? I think it will.
[00:19:12] will. It will perhaps look at whether whether some of those deaths could
[00:19:16] could have been avoidable and whether whether the concerns that consultants
[00:19:19] consultants had could have been escalated escalated earlier and whether board
[00:19:22] board members should have acted on on them. So I would imagine that
[00:19:26] that that may be the case. It may may not go that far, but I would
[00:19:29] would imagine that there will be
[00:19:31] be something about why managers did
[00:19:33] did not escalate or when concerns concerns were escalated to them.
[00:19:37] them. They did not act in the way way that they should have done. So
[00:19:40] So you mentioned regulation and obviously obviously the inquiry. We don't have
[00:19:44] have the report yet is a long time time coming. Incredibly expensive
[00:19:47] expensive as well over £18 million
[00:19:49] million in cost. But just in terms
[00:19:52] terms of regulation, what could it it suggest to prevent a future case
[00:19:56] case like that of Lucy Levy's? So
[00:19:59] So what it could do is there could could be statutory powers which would
[00:20:02] would essentially disbar NHS leaders leaders in senior roles who have
[00:20:05] have committed senior misconduct misconduct from holding roles again.
[00:20:08] again. So if there has been a concern
[00:20:11] concern about a manager's misconduct, misconduct, it will go on their record.
[00:20:14] record. And if they then try to apply apply to another job that will be
[00:20:18] be on the record. So particularly particularly serious misconduct will
[00:20:21] will be kind of acts designed to to suppress whistleblowing, those
[00:20:24] those sorts of things, which obviously obviously there is concern about
[00:20:27] about in this case. Emily Townsend Townsend from the Health Service
[00:20:30] Service Journal. When that inquiry, inquiry, of course, does publish, publish, we'll have special coverage.
[00:20:34] coverage. It's emerged that the Duke Duke and Duchess of Sussex have pulled
[00:20:37] pulled their children out of their their new school in the UK, just
[00:20:40] just two days into the start of term. term. A spokesperson said that the
[00:20:44] the decision was taken after a discussion discussion with the family's protection
[00:20:48] protection team about the practicalities practicalities of their original original arrangements. The children
[00:20:51] children are now at another school school and it's understood that the
[00:20:55] the committee overseeing royal and and VIP security is to review the
[00:20:58] the level of protection for the family family now that they're living in
[00:21:01] in the UK. Well, former head of royal
[00:21:04] royal security and former divisional
[00:21:06] divisional commander in the Metropolitan Metropolitan Police, di Metropolitan
[00:21:09] Metropolitan Police, Dai Davies gave
[00:21:12] gave his assessment. It's a very very good question and it's a question
[00:21:15] question I certainly would be asking asking of them. Did they not prepare?
[00:21:18] prepare? Did they not do any kind
[00:21:20] kind of runs? How far the home where
[00:21:23] where they're currently living to to the school is. These are all issues
[00:21:27] issues you would hope and think that that the security team and those
[00:21:31] those advising them would have thought thought about prior to. But the other
[00:21:34] other big thing I say is if you are are going to have protection in any
[00:21:37] any shape or form, keep a very low
[00:21:40] low profile. Stop briefing favoured
[00:21:43] favoured journalists newspapers as as to what you're doing almost on
[00:21:46] on a daily basis. I just find this
[00:21:49] this beyond belief, frankly, that that whoever is advising them on
[00:21:53] on security, if they actually listen listen to it, are not complying with
[00:21:57] with that because most of us wouldn't wouldn't know when they're in the
[00:21:59] the country, wouldn't know anything anything about them unless they and
[00:22:03] and the so-called team choose to to tell the world what they are doing,
[00:22:07] doing, including putting film and and photographs. I just don't understand
[00:22:10] understand their strategy and tactics tactics unless it is to force Ravec
[00:22:14] Ravec to actually give them protection. protection. And I
[00:22:20] And I hope Ravec will take a cold, hard view as to whether now
[00:22:23] now they are private citizens, whether whether they deserve it any more
[00:22:26] more than countless others, including
[00:22:27] including female MPs, which I worry worry tremendously in the current
[00:22:31] current climate about whether they they deserve protection. Whether Whether Meghan, who now is going
[00:22:35] going to be reviewed as well, whether whether they deserve it more than
[00:22:39] than numerous others ex-soldiers, ex-soldiers, ex-military who also
[00:22:42] also are at risk from a variety of
[00:22:44] of different sources. Builders television's television's biggest night, the Primetime
[00:22:48] Primetime Emmy Awards, have been been taking place in LA. Winners
[00:22:51] Winners include talk show host Stephen
[00:22:54] Stephen Colbert. Also, Allison Janney
[00:22:57] Janney you might remember her from from The West Wing, made history
[00:23:00] history with her eighth award. Welsh Welsh actor Matthew Rhys made history
[00:23:03] history with wins in two lead actor
[00:23:05] actor categories. Our very own superstar
[00:23:07] superstar David Willis was there.
[00:23:09] there. Emmy winner and Law and Order
[00:23:12] Order star Mariska Hargitay got a
[00:23:14] a celebration of the best in television. television. Off to a high energy
[00:23:18] energy start. The Emmy. And the Emmy
[00:23:22] Emmy goes to Kate O'Flynn Widow's Widow's Bay. The first award of the
[00:23:26] the night going to Kate O'Flynn from from Greater Manchester for her role
[00:23:30] role as the awkward assistant Patricia Patricia in the quirky new comedy
[00:23:33] comedy Widow's Bay. Hello, my name
[00:23:35] name is Patricia. It's Patricia.
[00:23:38] Patricia. Thank you Katie and Hiro Hiro for trusting this Lancashire
[00:23:40] Lancashire lass to play a sassy broad
[00:23:43] broad like Patricia. And the Emmy
[00:23:48] Emmy goes to Matthew Rhys The Beast Beast In Me. Matthew Rhys is the
[00:23:52] the star of Widow's Bay, but his his history making moment was still
[00:23:55] still to come. His first award of of the night was for his role in
[00:23:59] in the Netflix miniseries The Beast
[00:24:01] Beast In Me. Don't Let Me Down. Matthew
[00:24:04] Matthew Rhys. His Emmy for Widow's
[00:24:06] Widow's Bay, made him the first actor
[00:24:09] actor to win two lead acting trophies trophies in a single night. He is
[00:24:12] is also the first performer in history history to have won the lead acting
[00:24:16] acting award in all three fields.
[00:24:19] fields. Limited series, drama and
[00:24:21] and now comedy. Sorry buddy. To the.
[00:24:24] the. Great and good people of Wales Wales who were as much a nurture
[00:24:27] nurture as anyone else. We are a a small but mighty nation. This is
[00:24:30] is incredible. Thank you very much.
[00:24:33] much. Thank you. In his native Welsh,
[00:24:36] Welsh, Matthew Rhys crowned Widow's Widow's Bay rapid transformation
[00:24:39] transformation from quirky newcomer newcomer to mainstream hit. He plays
[00:24:43] plays the hapless mayor of a New New England town that he refuses
[00:24:46] refuses to believe is haunted. Apple
[00:24:48] Apple TV has commissioned a second second series for the fifth year
[00:24:52] year in a row. 75-year-old Jean Smart,
[00:24:54] Smart, the star of Hacks, was named
[00:24:56] named best comedy actress. Jean Smart
[00:25:00] Smart Hacks. The hospital drama The
[00:25:03] The Pitt went into these awards with
[00:25:06] with 25 Emmy nominations, collecting collecting his Best Dramatic Actor
[00:25:09] Actor award. Its star, Noah Wyle
[00:25:11] Wyle paid tribute to fellow contender
[00:25:14] contender Sir Gary Oldman. Mr Altman,
[00:25:15] Altman, I have to tell you I don't
[00:25:18] don't know that as an actor my age age that didn't look at Prick Up
[00:25:21] Up Your Ears and Sid and Nancy and and think that's the benchmark that
[00:25:23] that I want to hit one day in my my career. The leading award of the
[00:25:27] the night for best drama went to
[00:25:29] to The Pitt amid the fall in Hollywood
[00:25:33] Hollywood production and flight to to other less expensive corners of
[00:25:36] of the world, including the UK and
[00:25:38] and Canada. The success of The Pitt
[00:25:40] Pitt provides at least a crumb of
[00:25:42] of comfort. It was made not in Pittsburgh
[00:25:45] Pittsburgh but on a soundstage here here in Los Angeles, and it's already
[00:25:49] already been commissioned for a third
[00:25:51] third series. David Willis, BBC News
[00:25:53] News at the Emmys. David, they're they're looking very much the part
[00:25:57] part in LA. Our thanks to him. I I will be back in about 15 minutes,
[00:26:00] minutes, but now it is time for all all your business news that's coming
[00:26:03] coming up with Ben.
[00:29:40] coping? For more coverage join me me James Landale here on BBC News.
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[00:30:02] Now on BBC News. The latest
[00:30:04] business news from across the globe.
[00:30:06] globe. Business Today. Tough choices
[00:30:17] choices UK state pensions are set
[00:30:18] set to rise by nearly £500 a year.
[00:30:21] year. But can the country afford afford the triple lock policy? And
[00:30:25] And the price of debt? The yield
[00:30:26] yield on US Treasury bonds hits its
[00:30:29] its highest level since 2023, with
[00:30:31] with a fed rate rise now looming.
[00:30:35] looming. Hello. Welcome. This is is Business Today I'm Ben Thompson
[00:30:38] Thompson and we start in the UK where where the latest employment data
[00:30:41] data paints a picture of a rather rather tricky jobs market. If you
[00:30:45] you take a look first of all at the the employment numbers, those figures figures show that there's been a
[00:30:49] a slight fall in August. That compares
[00:30:51] compares to the previous month. It
[00:30:55] It represents around 26,000 fewer fewer employees in the workforce. workforce. That drop has been mainly
[00:30:59] mainly in