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[00:01:22] 14. So let's turn to one of those those headlines. China has warned [00:01:25] warned against turning outer space space into a battlefield, and Russia [00:01:28] Russia has called for weapons to to be kept out of space after the [00:01:32] the US military confirmed that it's it's deployed weapons in Earth's [00:01:34] Earth's orbit. It's believed to be be the first public acknowledgement [00:01:38] acknowledgement by Washington of of such capabilities, though analysts [00:01:41] analysts say it confirms an open open secret. US officials say weapons [00:01:44] weapons are already in operation [00:01:46] operation and capable of defending defending American assets. Well, [00:01:50] Well, our White House correspondent correspondent Bernd Debusmann and [00:01:53] and our defence correspondent Jonathan Jonathan Beale gave their assessments [00:01:56] assessments of this move. Well, about about the actual weapon itself, we [00:01:59] we know very little. In remarks yesterday, yesterday, the Secretary of the Air [00:02:02] Air Force, Troy Mink, openly admitted admitted that there is an on orbit [00:02:06] orbit weapon, but he didn't reveal reveal anything about its capabilities, capabilities, how long it's been [00:02:10] been in orbit or what exactly it's [00:02:12] it's intended to do. He did say, [00:02:14] say, however, that unnamed adversaries adversaries had already attempted [00:02:18] attempted to disrupt US satellites, satellites, which are used for command [00:02:21] command and control and connecting connecting units in the field with [00:02:24] with their commanders, possibly even even as far back as the United States. [00:02:28] States. It's strange that China and [00:02:31] and Russia should criticise the US US for something that the US already [00:02:35] already accuses them of. In other other words, they say the US that [00:02:39] that both Russia and China have tested tested weapons in space. But I think [00:02:43] think I went to the US Space Force [00:02:45] Force in Colorado last year, and [00:02:47] and they made clear that they were [00:02:49] were going to defend their interests interests in space, and that signalled [00:02:53] signalled that they were going to [00:02:55] to use some kind of weapon. And now [00:02:58] now we have confirmation that they they have used weapon. Now the question, [00:03:01] question, I guess, is what was the [00:03:03] the weapon? Well, let's speak to to Kari Bingen, who's director of [00:03:07] of the Aerospace Security Project Project at the centre for Strategic Strategic and International Studies. [00:03:11] Studies. She served as US deputy deputy undersecretary for Defence [00:03:14] Defence and intelligence and security [00:03:16] security in the Trump administration [00:03:18] administration between 2017 and 2020. 2020. Welcome here to BBC News and [00:03:22] and the programme. What do you make [00:03:25] make of this official acknowledgement acknowledgement from Washington? Washington? Well, thanks for having [00:03:28] having me on. You know, for someone someone that tracks this, the announcement [00:03:32] announcement doesn't surprise me. me. The United States has long had [00:03:35] had what we call a space control [00:03:37] control mission. But in recent years, years, senior defence leaders are [00:03:41] are more openly discussing the growing [00:03:43] growing threat that you highlighted highlighted space weapons and warfighting [00:03:46] warfighting in space and greater greater investments in this area. [00:03:49] area. But it does appear to be the the first such public acknowledgement [00:03:52] acknowledgement by a senior government government official. So I can see see where it would be a surprise [00:03:56] surprise to folks if they're not not tracking this. Give me a sort [00:03:59] sort of idea because they haven't haven't been specific about this. [00:04:02] this. Give me the sort of idea of [00:04:04] of the types of weapons we are actually [00:04:07] actually potentially talking about. about. And I would say having served [00:04:11] served in those types of senior seats, seats, those statements, those words [00:04:15] words are chosen very carefully and [00:04:18] and very deliberately. So the term term on orbit was used. So this is [00:04:22] is a some sort of space weapon or or weapons that are orbiting the [00:04:26] the earth versus land based weapons weapons like a GPs or Starlink jammer [00:04:30] jammer that we're seeing in Ukraine, Ukraine, or a missile that would would be launched from the ground [00:04:34] ground against a satellite. We won't [00:04:36] won't know the specifics on how, how, but let's look at basic physics. [00:04:40] physics. There could be a range of [00:04:41] of options that are employed. Anything [00:04:45] Anything from a kinetic kill mechanism, [00:04:47] mechanism, say, ramming a space weapon weapon or a spacecraft into another [00:04:51] another spacecraft. Perhaps you release release pellets or something non [00:04:54] non kinetic and even what we call call reversible. So a jammer where [00:04:58] where you're jamming a signal from from one satellite to another satellite, [00:05:01] satellite, you're using a laser weapon [00:05:03] weapon to affect another satellite. satellite. So there are several different [00:05:07] different modes. The thing I'd also also though be sensitive to here [00:05:10] here is just a reminder of the physics [00:05:12] physics of space. And so any weapon [00:05:15] weapon that is used these planners, planners, I believe will be careful [00:05:19] careful about the creation of debris. debris. You do not want to create [00:05:23] create a lot of debris in these orbits orbits where other satellites will [00:05:26] will be passing through. The Chinese, [00:05:28] Chinese, the Russians to have talked [00:05:30] talked about and warned the US against [00:05:32] against starting a sort of space [00:05:34] space arms race in effect. Is that [00:05:36] that warning already out of date? [00:05:41] date? I did not hear Secretary Ming's Ming's speech. I read it afterwards, [00:05:45] afterwards, but he talked quite a [00:05:47] a bit about the threat. And so China [00:05:49] China and Russia have been building, building, testing and deploying space [00:05:53] space weapons or ways to attack our [00:05:55] our satellites for a long time. Go [00:05:59] Go back to 2007 when China tested tested a direct ascent anti-satellite anti-satellite missile, so shot a [00:06:02] a missile at one of their satellites satellites and created debris that [00:06:05] that will be on orbit for decades. decades. But what we've seen in the [00:06:08] the last couple of years, China, [00:06:11] China, for example, one of our senior senior Space Force generals had had [00:06:15] had described China's activities activities in space as dog fighting. [00:06:18] fighting. So several satellites working [00:06:20] working together on synchronised synchronised manoeuvres, close approaches [00:06:24] approaches to other satellites in in lower orbit all the way up to [00:06:27] to higher orbits, releasing objects objects from their space plane. The [00:06:30] The Russians as well. Last year in [00:06:33] in 2025, they tested something called called a nesting doll. Or think of [00:06:36] of it like a matryoshka doll, where [00:06:38] where one satellite released another another object more recently the [00:06:42] the spring, the commander of US Space Space Command. So the operational [00:06:46] operational command for planning planning and conducting operations operations in space publicly said [00:06:49] said that Russia is deploying space [00:06:52] space weapons and testing them near near our satellites. And you may [00:06:55] may remember from a few years ago, [00:06:57] ago, Russia is what was. Believed [00:07:02] Believed to be developing a nuclear nuclear anti-satellite weapon that [00:07:05] that would sit in orbit like a mine [00:07:08] mine and detonate at a time and place place of their choosing, creating [00:07:11] creating a nuclear highly radioactive [00:07:14] radioactive environment for entire entire swaths of Earth's orbit. So [00:07:17] So you're saying the Russians, the [00:07:19] the Chinese, they're already doing doing exactly what the Americans Americans are now venturing into. [00:07:23] into. A final question, because Donald Donald Trump, of course, created [00:07:26] created the US Space Force in 2019. [00:07:29] 2019. And that was the first new [00:07:30] new branch of the US military in [00:07:33] in what, 70 years? Do we know at [00:07:35] at all any sort of headline cost [00:07:38] cost of what we're talking about, about, this new venture into space, [00:07:40] space, these sorts of weapons? What What is the price tag for all of [00:07:43] of that? Do we know? It's a great [00:07:46] great question. We don't. And this [00:07:49] this area of the defence budget is is usually kept at a very highly [00:07:53] highly classified level so that our our adversaries don't get that information [00:07:56] information or those descriptions descriptions to reverse engineer [00:07:59] engineer what we're building, how how good it is, etc if I can also [00:08:03] also just make one other point though, [00:08:05] though, is we are seeing our adversaries adversaries increasingly use their [00:08:08] their own satellites to target our our forces and our bases on the ground. [00:08:12] ground. We're seeing it in the Middle Middle East, where there have been [00:08:15] been reports of China supplying satellite satellite imagery to Iran to target [00:08:19] target US bases. So you think about about other domains. Would we allow [00:08:22] allow drones to fly overhead unimpeded unimpeded to target our forces, or [00:08:26] or would we allow our adversaries adversaries to hold the highest ridgeline? [00:08:29] ridgeline? We wouldn't. And so we're we're thinking about these types [00:08:32] types of concepts in the space domain [00:08:34] domain as well, and not allowing [00:08:36] allowing our adversaries unfettered unfettered access to satellites that [00:08:40] that would take images of our forces. forces. And then later on target [00:08:43] target them. Kari Bingen it's been been absolutely fascinating talking talking to you. So thanks so much [00:08:47] much for joining us on today's show. [00:08:49] show. My pleasure. Thank you. Now [00:08:52] Now the price of oil has risen sharply sharply over the past few days, with [00:08:55] with Brent crude currently trading trading at levels not seen since [00:08:59] since May. It follows those fresh fresh attacks on Saudi Arabian oil [00:09:02] oil infrastructure and on shipping shipping in the Middle East, heightening [00:09:06] heightening concerns about supply. supply. Saudi Arabia shut down its [00:09:09] its east west pipeline to the Red [00:09:11] Red Sea after it was damaged by drones drones fired from Iraqi territory. [00:09:15] territory. The shutdown threatens threatens up to 4% of global oil [00:09:18] oil supplies the route had allowed [00:09:20] allowed Saudi Arabia to circumvent [00:09:22] circumvent the Strait of Hormuz, Hormuz, blocked by Iran. Well, with [00:09:25] with me is Thomas Copeland from BBC [00:09:28] BBC Verify. So Thomas, all of this [00:09:31] this revolves around the latest Houthi Houthi action in the Middle East. [00:09:34] East. So tell us more about this [00:09:37] this pipeline, the assessment around around that and the damage done to to that. You've said it there. We've [00:09:41] We've been looking at the damage damage that has been done to this this pipeline. It's an increasingly [00:09:44] increasingly important pipeline for for Saudi Arabia, pumping oil away [00:09:47] away from the Strait of Hormuz over over to the Red Sea. The satellite satellite images, they should be [00:09:50] be on your screen in front of you. you. Now they appear to show charred, [00:09:54] charred, burnt, demolished elements elements of this large pumping station [00:09:57] station along the pipeline. We've We've been speaking to experts who who say that the Saudis might take [00:10:01] take up to six weeks to fully repair repair that pipeline. That's going [00:10:03] going to have a big impact on global global supply. We've been you mentioned [00:10:07] mentioned the 4% figure there 4% 4% impact on global supply. Brent [00:10:11] Brent crude spiked on Friday after after that strike, and then it's [00:10:14] it's still trending over $100 a barrel. barrel. Now all of this, experts [00:10:18] experts say has exposed partly a a weakness in the Saudi strategy [00:10:21] strategy they had tried to avoid avoid putting oil through the Strait [00:10:24] Strait of Hormuz because of the influence influence of Iran there. But a large [00:10:27] large pipeline moving all across across your country is a sitting sitting duck target. Experts have [00:10:31] have told us it is long. It is above above ground. It is hard to defend [00:10:35] defend in this case, the Saudis say say that this was a drone attack [00:10:37] attack that came from Iraq, from from Iran backed proxies in Iraq. [00:10:41] Iraq. But it is a similar strategy strategy that we're seeing from the the Houthis, another Iran backed [00:10:44] backed proxy in Yemen. They have have been striking oil refinery facilities. [00:10:47] facilities. For example, in Jizan, Jizan, a Saudi city. You can see [00:10:50] see some of that damage on your screen screen as well here from earlier earlier in the month, destroyed oil [00:10:54] oil tanks that are forced that refineries [00:10:57] refineries closure and that refinery refinery hit again this week by the [00:11:00] the Houthis. Tell me more then, about about the strikes between the Houthis [00:11:04] Houthis and Saudi Arabia, because because that has been going on for [00:11:06] for such a while in terms of that [00:11:09] that wider conflict. But the Houthis Houthis making massive progress in [00:11:12] in the last week or so, grabbing grabbing the coastline of the Red [00:11:15] Red Sea. Yeah. This is the other other part of this puzzle, right. right. So the Houthis have seized [00:11:18] seized huge amounts of territory territory along the west coast of of Yemen that has given them greater [00:11:22] greater access to the Red Sea than than ever before and to the Saudi [00:11:26] Saudi linked ships that are in there. there. The Houthis have had this [00:11:28] this what they call a blockade of [00:11:30] of Saudi ports for a number of months months now in place. This new territory [00:11:34] territory that they have will give give them greater access to those [00:11:36] those ships. If it is the case that that Saudi Arabia is forced to ship [00:11:40] ship all of its oil instead of through through the Bab al Mandab Strait [00:11:43] Strait of the south of the Red Sea Sea up through the Suez Canal, all [00:11:45] all the way around Africa to get get to these refineries in Asia, [00:11:48] Asia, that's going to send oil prices prices up. And even for ships that [00:11:51] that aren't linked to Saudi Arabia, Arabia, experts say to us ship ownership [00:11:55] ownership companies, they're really really worried. They're worried about about miscommunication and they're [00:11:58] they're worried about maybe in the the future. The Houthis targets changing [00:12:00] changing as well. Well, tell us more [00:12:04] more because there is obviously, obviously, as you're outlining huge [00:12:06] huge pressure on Saudi oil production, production, but you production but [00:12:09] but you have these two giant choke [00:12:11] choke points. Now in terms of the [00:12:14] the impacts, the longer impacts on on reserves, all of that, where are [00:12:17] are we with global oil markets? Well, Well, we've spoken to experts who've [00:12:20] who've said that it is the case that that if it weren't for the choke [00:12:23] choke point in the Strait of Hormuz, Hormuz, you know, the international international and global oil markets [00:12:27] markets could probably absorb some some of the blow of an increasingly [00:12:31] increasingly restricted Bab el. About About 15% of global trade goes through [00:12:35] through there. But because you have have this choke point in the Strait [00:12:38] Strait of Hormuz, more oil is getting getting through there than we have have seen earlier on in this conflict, [00:12:42] conflict, but still nowhere near near the levels that we were seeing seeing before the conflict began. [00:12:46] began. All of that means that there's there's simply less slack in the [00:12:49] the system than there was before, before, and that's going to have have an impact on oil prices. And [00:12:52] And that means goods, services, product, product, international trade. Thomas, [00:12:56] Thomas, thanks for taking us through through all of that. And you say [00:12:59] say about the impacts I was reading reading only a bit earlier in terms [00:13:02] terms of petrol prices in this country [00:13:05] country spiking today. So all of [00:13:08] of that global pressure already filtering filtering through into various market [00:13:12] market places. Well, here we've also also seen the publication today of [00:13:15] of wage growth data, which means means the total state pension is [00:13:19] is likely to top 1300 £0 a year. year. Well wage growth figures are [00:13:23] are used in the so-called triple triple lock. The calculation used [00:13:27] used for the state pension, which which has come under such scrutiny [00:13:30] scrutiny because of the cost. Well, Well, our deputy economics editor, editor, Dharshini David explains [00:13:34] explains how they get to that 13,000 [00:13:38] 13,000 figure and the implications. implications. Well, first of all, all, we should say this is not a [00:13:41] a rise that is set in stone by any any means before anyone starts cracking cracking open the bubbly. And as [00:13:45] as you say, this has all come about about because of that monthly jobs [00:13:48] jobs and wages report we tell you you about every month. And what we've [00:13:51] we've seen there, I'm afraid to say say as well no reason for job seekers [00:13:55] seekers to start celebrating just [00:13:57] just yet. The unemployment rate stayed [00:13:59] stayed at 4.9%. But we also saw was was that there were fewer vacancies [00:14:03] vacancies and also the number of [00:14:05] of employees was down somewhat. But [00:14:07] But if you are in work, wage growth [00:14:10] growth staying pretty static 3.5%. 3.5%. So ahead of inflation, that [00:14:14] that is good news for some. There's There's another measure of wage inflation [00:14:17] inflation which includes bonuses bonuses that rose by 3.9%. And it [00:14:21] it is that which forms part of what what is known as the triple lock [00:14:24] lock formula, which is used normally normally to uprate the state pension. [00:14:28] pension. So it's the highest of that that inflation and 2.5%. And we think [00:14:31] think it's likely to be this figure. [00:14:33] figure. And that's where that 1300 [00:14:36] 1300 £0 figure comes from. If you [00:14:38] you are on the full new state pension, pension, there are other lower rates [00:14:41] rates as well. But it all depends. depends. The figures could be revised [00:14:44] revised and we do need the government government to give the green light light to this kind of rise, which [00:14:48] which may not happen for some time. time. As you say, they have confirmed [00:14:51] confirmed that if the state pension [00:14:52] pension rise goes above the tax free free allowance, they will let people [00:14:56] people off if they're not earning earning other sources of income whatsoever. [00:14:59] whatsoever. But there are wider questions questions around this because don't [00:15:02] don't forget the cost of providing [00:15:04] providing this state pension, which which has been really helpful in [00:15:07] in lifting pensioners out of poverty, poverty, is getting quite expensive [00:15:11] expensive for the state. It is far far more expensive than had been [00:15:14] been predicted right at the beginning. beginning. And as those billions [00:15:17] billions mount up over £150 billion billion this year alone, questions questions are being asked whether [00:15:21] whether that means there's less cash cash for the Chancellor to use. For [00:15:25] For example, for other spending decisions. decisions. This debate is going to [00:15:28] to run and run. That was Dharshini Dharshini David. We're going to take take a short break around the world [00:15:33] world and across the UK. You are [00:16:38] Martin Sharkey I'll take now on BBC [00:16:38] BBC News. Welcome back. Now when [00:16:46] when Caroline Ainslie, a former nurse, nurse, was diagnosed with stage four [00:16:49] four ovarian cancer in March, she [00:16:51] she was told it was inoperable. But But after being invited to try a [00:16:55] a pioneering new treatment, she is is now cancer free. She's been talking [00:16:59] talking to Alastair V. I just thought [00:17:03] thought that that was it. I was a a goner, I was going to die and I [00:17:07] I wasn't going to have very much much life left. I thought I would [00:17:09] would be dead within a year. Six [00:17:12] Six months ago, Caroline was given given a diagnosis that couldn't have [00:17:15] have been worse. Ovarian cancer, cancer, which had been caught late [00:17:19] late and had advanced to stage four, four, the highest classification [00:17:23] classification of the disease. I [00:17:24] I had cancer in my ovary and it was [00:17:28] was also in my liver and in my lung [00:17:30] lung had cancer pretty much everywhere. everywhere. She was initially told [00:17:34] told her cancer was inoperable and and there was little doctors could [00:17:37] could do. It just felt completely [00:17:40] completely hopeless. They were just just finding microscopic residual [00:17:43] residual tumour areas there. Caroline Caroline responded so well to an [00:17:47] an initial round of chemotherapy. chemotherapy. Her consultant suggested [00:17:50] suggested she undergo a pioneering pioneering treatment that involves [00:17:54] involves pouring heated chemotherapy chemotherapy into the body after [00:17:57] after her cancerous tumours are removed. [00:17:59] removed. The process is called Hipec. [00:18:02] Hipec. Hipec heated intraperitoneal intraperitoneal chemotherapy is essentially [00:18:05] essentially us putting chemotherapy chemotherapy into a carrier solution [00:18:08] solution inside the abdomen. Once Once we've finished doing the operation. operation. Once we've achieved complete [00:18:12] complete clearance of disease so so that is circulating for 90 minutes [00:18:16] minutes to mop up any cancer cells cells that might remain that are [00:18:19] are microscopic that of course we we can't see with the naked eye. [00:18:22] eye. So we're healing really nicely nicely around the edges. It's granulating. granulating. Well. At this moment [00:18:26] moment in time, I'm cancer free and [00:18:28] and I am absolutely delighted about [00:18:30] about that. Now Caroline's treatment treatment journey is almost over. [00:18:34] over. She'll now be closely monitored monitored in the months ahead. I [00:18:37] I can't believe you just said that. [00:18:40] that. Hopefully my story inspires inspires other people to realise [00:18:44] realise that actually having a cancer cancer diagnosis does not mean the [00:18:47] the end of your life. It certainly certainly changes it. But there, [00:18:50] there, there is a great deal of hope hope in the future because of the [00:18:53] the advancements and treatments that [00:18:55] that that we've got in this country. [00:18:58] country. Alastair v BBC News. Now [00:19:02] Now there are more than 40 species [00:19:04] species of sharks found in UK waters, waters, but there's still much that [00:19:08] that we don't know about them. But [00:19:09] But a team in Kent is hoping to help help scientists better understand [00:19:12] understand one. The ocean's top predators predators by catching them and gathering [00:19:17] gathering data about their movements movements and behaviour. Here's our [00:19:21] our reporter Hanna Rowe. This catch [00:19:28] catch reveals a terrifying secret secret there are sharks swimming [00:19:31] swimming just off the Kent coast coast and frankly, thank goodness [00:19:34] goodness there are. Sharks are incredible. incredible. They've actually been [00:19:37] been around for over 400 million million years. They're usually mid-level [00:19:40] mid-level or top level predators, predators, and they help to regulate regulate that food chain. There's [00:19:44] There's over 40 species of sharks sharks in the UK. Half of those species [00:19:47] species are under threat from extinction. extinction. In Kent. We actually [00:19:50] actually think it's a really important important nursery and pupping ground. ground. So we're hoping some of our [00:19:54] our research can shed light on that that because these could be really really key areas for their development [00:19:57] development before they go out to to sea. These starry smooth hound [00:20:01] hound sharks are now key subjects subjects of that research through [00:20:03] through a brand new project, Sharks [00:20:05] Sharks of Kent. The idea is simple [00:20:08] simple catch the shark, weigh it it £6 and if it's big enough, put [00:20:12] put a tag on it. It might look a a little brutal. But when that shark's [00:20:16] shark's caught again, that tag can can be used to tell scientists how [00:20:20] how much it's grown, where it's been been and what it's been up to. But [00:20:24] But scientists can only take so many many trips, which is why they've [00:20:27] they've got the community involved. involved. Better Day Charters is [00:20:30] is one of the boats they've trained trained up. Skipper Daniel tags sharks [00:20:34] sharks every time he catches one one on his fishing trips and one [00:20:37] one of their star anglers is Ben. Ben. As much as anything I'm fascinated [00:20:41] fascinated by what's down there. [00:20:44] there. I've always loved fishing, fishing, but without the sharks, sharks, obviously it affects the [00:20:47] the entire food chain. Also on the the project are two graduates from [00:20:51] from Kent fresh out of uni. The work work here is setting them up for [00:20:55] for a career in marine biology. It's It's really hard to find opportunities [00:20:59] opportunities in the marine industry industry that are close to home, home, but also really practical. [00:21:02] practical. And Daniel, you're from from Kent. Yeah. So for me it's really [00:21:05] really meant a lot to be able to to work and study animals and do [00:21:08] do these amazing things where I'm I'm from. On this day, 31 sharks [00:21:12] sharks were caught and 11 of them them were tagged. Each animal will [00:21:16] will now be able to tell scientists [00:21:18] scientists more about how best to to protect this important species. [00:21:22] species. Hanna Rome BBC News. Good [00:21:24] Good timing because we're going to to head live to the TUC because just [00:21:28] just in the last few seconds, the the first Secretary of State, Louise [00:21:31] Louise Haigh, just standing up there [00:21:34] there in place of the Prime Minister, Minister, Andy Burnham, after the [00:21:36] the death of his father. But she's she's going to be addressing the [00:21:40] the warnings that we've heard around [00:21:41] around AI that have come from many [00:21:45] many current workers in that AI industry. industry. Let's just put the microphones [00:21:47] microphones up and hear her early [00:21:49] early comments. And her grandfather. [00:21:57] grandfather. The Prime Minister has [00:21:59] has talked so openly and movingly movingly about the influence that [00:22:03] that his father, Roy, had on his [00:22:05] his life and on his politics. And [00:22:07] And many of you in this room will [00:22:09] will have had to personally experience experience the devastating impact [00:22:13] impact that Alzheimer's can have have on the lives of you and of your [00:22:17] your loved ones. It's at times like [00:22:19] like these that you want to be surrounded surrounded by the people closest [00:22:23] closest to you, and that's genuinely genuinely one of the reasons why [00:22:26] why Andy was so sorry he couldn't [00:22:28] couldn't be here today with his with [00:22:32] with our Labour family, because the the Prime Minister understands that [00:22:35] that the strength of our movement movement is drawn from our roots [00:22:38] roots in the trade unions and that [00:22:40] that at moments like these are such [00:22:42] such a valuable opportunity to come [00:22:45] come together to remind ourselves ourselves of our common endeavour [00:22:49] endeavour of what binds us and unites unites us in our daily fight to improve [00:22:52] improve the lives of working people. [00:22:55] people. Like all families, we have [00:22:57] have and will always have our differences, differences, our disagreements big [00:23:01] big and small. But on days like today, [00:23:03] today, we should come together and and remind ourselves of all that [00:23:06] that we have in common and everything [00:23:10] everything that we have achieved [00:23:13] achieved together at various points [00:23:14] points I've sat next to some of you you around the negotiating table [00:23:18] table and at other times I've sat [00:23:21] sat across from you. I know which [00:23:24] which times I have preferred. Sometimes [00:23:27] Sometimes you've backed us, sometimes [00:23:30] sometimes you've challenged us. Sometimes Sometimes we're going to leave. Louise [00:23:34] Louise Haig, she will say at some some point that the UK government government must heed those warnings [00:23:38] warnings of those who are at the the forefront of developing AI. When [00:23:40] When she comes to that section of of the speech, we'll obviously play [00:23:44] play you that later. Due to all of of those warnings over the last few [00:23:48] few days and of course, only yesterday, [00:23:51] yesterday, what the US President President was saying. So much more [00:23:54] more on that coming up a little later. later. But let's squeeze in one more [00:23:58] more story because the Welsh actor actor Matthew Rhys has become the the first person to win two lead [00:24:02] lead acting prizes at the Emmys in in one night. The horror comedy he [00:24:06] he stars in Widow's Bay was the big [00:24:08] big winner in LA, taking home six six awards at the ceremony last night [00:24:12] night from Hollywood. Here's David David Willis. Emmy winner and Law [00:24:15] Law and Order star Mariska Hargitay [00:24:18] Hargitay got a celebration of the [00:24:20] the best in television off to a high [00:24:22] high energy start. The Emmy. And [00:24:25] And the Emmy goes to Kate O'Flynn [00:24:28] O'Flynn Widow's Bay. The first award award of the night going to Kate [00:24:32] Kate O'Flynn from Greater Manchester Manchester for her role as the awkward [00:24:36] awkward assistant Patricia in the the quirky new comedy Widow's Bay. [00:24:38] Bay. Hello, my name is Patricia. [00:24:41] Patricia. It's Patricia. Thank you you Katie. And Hiro. For trusting [00:24:45] trusting this Lancashire lass to [00:24:46] to play a sassy broad like Patricia. [00:24:49] Patricia. And the Emmy goes to Matthew [00:24:54] Matthew Rhys The Beast In Me. Matthew Matthew Rhys is the star of Widow's [00:24:58] Widow's Bay, but his history making making moment was still to come. [00:25:00] come. His first award of the night [00:25:02] night was for his role in the Netflix [00:25:05] Netflix miniseries The Beast In Me. [00:25:07] Me. Don't Let Me Down. Matthew Rhys. [00:25:10] Rhys. His Emmy for Widow's Bay, made [00:25:11] made him the first actor to win two [00:25:14] two lead acting trophies in a single [00:25:16] single night. He is also the first first performer in history to have [00:25:20] have won the lead acting award in [00:25:22] in all three fields. Limited series, [00:25:25] series, drama and now comedy. Sorry [00:25:27] Sorry Buddy. To the great and good [00:25:30] good people of Wales who were as as much a nurture as anyone else. [00:25:33] else. We are a small but mighty nation. nation. This is incredible. Thank [00:25:36] Thank you very much. Thank you guys. guys. Thank you. In his native Welsh, [00:25:40] Welsh, Matthew. Rhys crowned Widow's [00:25:42] Widow's Bay his rapid transformation transformation from quirky newcomer [00:25:46] newcomer to mainstream hit. He plays plays the hapless mayor of a New [00:25:49] New England town that he refuses refuses to believe is haunted. Apple [00:25:53] Apple TV has commissioned a second [00:25:55] second series for the fifth year year in a row. 75-year-old Jean Smart, [00:25:59] Smart, the star of Hacks, was named [00:26:01] named best comedy actress. Jean Smart [00:26:05] Smart Hacks. The hospital drama The [00:26:07] The Pitt went into these awards with [00:26:10] with 25 Emmy nominations, collecting collecting his Best Dramatic Actor [00:26:13] Actor award. Its star, Noah Wyle [00:26:15] Wyle paid tribute to fellow contender [00:26:18] contender Sir Gary Oldman. Mr Oldman, [00:26:20] Oldman, I have to tell you I don't [00:26:23] don't know that as an actor my age age that didn't look at Prick Up [00:26:25] Up Your Ears and Sid and Nancy and and think that's the benchmark that [00:26:28] that I want to hit one day in my my career. The leading award of the [00:26:32] the night for best drama went to [00:26:34] to The Pitt amid the fall in Hollywood [00:26:37] Hollywood production and flight to to other less expensive corners of [00:26:41] of the world, including the UK and [00:26:43] and Canada. The success of The Pitt Pitt provides at least a crumb of [00:26:47] of comfort. It was made not in Pittsburgh [00:26:50] Pittsburgh but on a soundstage here here in Los Angeles, and it's already [00:26:53] already been commissioned for a third [00:26:55] third series. David Willis, BBC News [00:26:57] News at the Emmys. We're going to to take a short break and back in [00:27:01] in just a moment or two with all all of our main headlines. Don't [00:27:05] Don't go away. [00:30:43] MUSIC