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When the story [00:00:38] story breaks. BBC News. Welcome back. [00:00:43] back. Now China has warned against [00:00:45] against turning outer space into into a battlefield and Russia has [00:00:49] has called for weapons to be kept kept out of space after the US military [00:00:52] military confirmed for the first first time it has deployed weapons [00:00:56] weapons in Earth's orbit. Well, Kari Kari Bingen is the director of Aerospace [00:00:59] Aerospace Security Project at the the centre for Strategic and International [00:01:02] International Studies. She served served as US deputy undersecretary [00:01:05] undersecretary of defence for intelligence intelligence and security in the [00:01:08] the Trump administration between [00:01:10] between 2017 and 2020. The announcement announcement doesn't surprise me. [00:01:14] me. The United States has long had had what we call a space control [00:01:18] control mission, but in recent years, years, senior defence leaders are [00:01:21] are more openly discussing the growing growing threat that you highlighted [00:01:25] highlighted space weapons and warfighting warfighting in space and greater greater investments in this area. [00:01:29] area. But it does appear to be the the first such public acknowledgement [00:01:33] acknowledgement by a senior government government official. So I can see see where it would be a surprise [00:01:36] surprise to folks if they're not not tracking this. Give me. A sort [00:01:40] sort of idea because they haven't haven't been specific about this. [00:01:42] this. Give me the sort of idea of [00:01:45] of the types of weapons we are actually [00:01:48] actually potentially talking about. about. And I would say having served [00:01:52] served in those types of senior seats, seats, those statements, those words [00:01:55] words are chosen very carefully and [00:01:59] and very deliberately. So the term term on orbit was used. So this is [00:02:02] is a some sort of space weapon or [00:02:04] or weapons that are orbiting the [00:02:06] the earth versus land based weapons weapons like a GPs or Starlink jammer [00:02:10] jammer that we're seeing in Ukraine, Ukraine, or a missile that would [00:02:13] would be launched from the ground ground against the satellite. We [00:02:16] We won't know the specifics on how, [00:02:19] how, but let's look at basic physics. physics. There could be a range of [00:02:22] of options that are employed. Anything [00:02:25] Anything from a kinetic kill mechanism, [00:02:28] mechanism, say, ramming a space weapon weapon or spacecraft into another [00:02:31] another spacecraft. Perhaps you release release pellets or something non [00:02:34] non kinetic and even what we call call reversible. So a jammer where [00:02:38] where you're jamming a signal from from one satellite to another satellite, [00:02:42] satellite, you're using a laser weapon [00:02:44] weapon to affect another satellite. satellite. So there are several different [00:02:48] different modes. The thing I'd also also though be sensitive to here [00:02:50] here is just a reminder of the physics [00:02:52] physics of space. And so any weapon [00:02:55] weapon that is used these planners, [00:02:57] planners, I believe will be careful [00:02:59] careful about the creation of debris. debris. You do not want to create [00:03:03] create a lot of debris in these orbits orbits where other satellites will [00:03:06] will be passing through. The Chinese, [00:03:09] Chinese, the Russians to have talked talked about and warned the US against [00:03:12] against starting a sort of space [00:03:15] space arms race in effect, is that [00:03:17] that warning already out of date? [00:03:22] date? I did not hear Secretary Ming's Ming's speech. I read it afterwards, [00:03:25] afterwards, but he talked quite a a bit about the threat. And so China [00:03:29] China and Russia have been building, [00:03:32] building, testing and deploying space space weapons or ways to attack our [00:03:35] our satellites for a long time. Go [00:03:39] Go back to 2007 when China tested tested a direct ascent anti-satellite anti-satellite missile, so shot a [00:03:43] a missile at one of their satellites satellites and created debris that [00:03:46] that will be on orbit for decades. decades. But what we've seen in the [00:03:49] the last couple of years, China, [00:03:51] China, for example, one of our senior senior Space Force generals had had [00:03:55] had described China's activities activities in space as dog fighting. [00:03:59] fighting. So several satellites working [00:04:01] working together on synchronised synchronised manoeuvres, close approaches [00:04:04] approaches to other satellites in in lower orbit all the way up to [00:04:07] to higher orbits, releasing objects objects from their space plane. The [00:04:11] The Russians as well last year, in [00:04:14] in 2025, they tested something called called a nesting doll. Or think of [00:04:17] of like a doll where one satellite [00:04:20] satellite released another object. object. More recently the spring, [00:04:23] spring, the commander of US Space Space Command. So the operational [00:04:26] operational command for planning planning and conducting operations operations in space publicly said [00:04:29] said that Russia is deploying space [00:04:32] space weapons and testing them near near our satellites. And you may [00:04:35] may remember from a few years ago, [00:04:37] ago, Russia is what was. Believed [00:04:42] Believed to be developing a nuclear nuclear anti-satellite weapon that [00:04:45] that would sit in orbit like a mine [00:04:48] mine and detonate at a time and place place of their choosing, creating [00:04:52] creating a nuclear highly radioactive [00:04:54] radioactive environment for entire entire swaths of Earth's orbit. So [00:04:58] So you're saying the Russians, the the Chinese, they're already doing [00:05:01] doing exactly what the Americans Americans are now venturing into. into. A final question, because Donald [00:05:05] Donald Trump, of course, created created the US Space Force in 2019. [00:05:09] 2019. And that was the first new new branch of the US military in, [00:05:13] in, what 70 years do we know at all, [00:05:17] all, any sort of headline cost of of what we're talking about, this [00:05:19] this new venture into space, these these sorts of weapons? What is the [00:05:22] the price tag for all of that? Do [00:05:25] Do we know? It's a great question. [00:05:27] question. We don't. And this area [00:05:30] area of the defence budget is usually usually kept at a very highly classified [00:05:34] classified level so that our adversaries adversaries don't get that information [00:05:36] information or those descriptions descriptions to reverse engineer [00:05:40] engineer what we're building, how how good it is, etc if I can also [00:05:43] also just make one other point though, though, is we are seeing our adversaries [00:05:47] adversaries increasingly use their their own satellites to target our [00:05:51] our forces and our bases on the ground. ground. We're seeing it in the Middle [00:05:54] Middle East where there have been been reports of China supplying satellite [00:05:58] satellite imagery to Iran to target target US bases. So you think about [00:06:01] about other domains. Would we allow allow drones to fly overhead unimpeded [00:06:05] unimpeded to target our forces, or or would we allow our adversaries [00:06:08] adversaries to hold the highest ridgeline? ridgeline? We wouldn't. And so we're [00:06:11] we're thinking about these types types of concepts in the space domain [00:06:15] domain as well, and not allowing allowing our adversaries unfettered [00:06:19] unfettered access to satellites that [00:06:21] that would take [00:06:32] target. Discover the world on BBC [00:06:34] BBC News in association with Turkish [00:06:38] Turkish Airlines. I'm travelling travelling through Japan, going off [00:06:41] off the beaten track to find out [00:06:43] out what makes this country unique. [00:06:46] unique. This is ultimate Japan. This [00:06:50] This time I visit Toba in the South [00:06:52] South to witness the ultimate Japanese [00:06:55] Japanese fishing tradition. I'm on [00:06:57] on a small island in an area called called Toba, which is home to one [00:07:01] one of Japan's most unusual communities [00:07:04] communities a group, mostly women women who over generations have forged [00:07:08] forged a really tight bond with both [00:07:10] both the sea and nature generally. [00:07:19] generally. AMA are iconic Japanese [00:07:21] Japanese freedivers who collect seafood, seafood, seaweed and even pearls [00:07:25] pearls from the sea floor. Almost [00:07:28] Almost all AMA are women, and many [00:07:30] many keep diving until their 70s. [00:07:32] 70s. 80s and even 90s diving without [00:07:37] without oxygen in their traditional traditional white outfits. It's a a centuries old way of life that's [00:07:41] that's been passed down through generations, [00:07:44] generations, but today's divers under under threat from all the pressures [00:07:48] pressures of modernity, are having having to adapt. Like here, displaying [00:07:51] displaying their skills for tourists. [00:07:56] tourists. Talbi what is this show [00:07:58] show about? An Amazon [00:08:11] Which do you prefer getting real fish or would you like doing [00:08:14] doing this and performing to tourists? [00:08:21] tourists? Hi. It's kind of ironic [00:08:25] ironic because for a long time Japan [00:08:28] Japan was a homogenous and quite [00:08:29] quite inward looking society. But [00:08:32] But it's outsiders, tourists who who are now providing a major industry [00:08:36] industry here. But rest assured elsewhere elsewhere there is still some genuine [00:08:40] genuine AMA diving going on a few [00:08:43] few miles along the shore in Asatsu Asatsu I meet some divers who are [00:08:46] are still making a living from this [00:08:48] this traditional form of fishing. [00:08:54] fishing. He Abha so much. Obasanjo [00:09:00] Obasanjo Hayato. AMA Oshima's watashi [00:09:06] watashi wa Umi Asa yukimasu. So I [00:09:12] I don't know. I Oyo State mo. Genbo [00:09:27] Genbo no doesn't. Yet these AMA still [00:09:32] still need to supplement their income [00:09:33] income by preparing meals for. Well, [00:09:36] Well, people like me. How is it different [00:09:40] different now diving to when you [00:09:42] you first started doing it? Solheim [00:09:51] Solheim Cup. And why do you think [00:09:55] think that is? Do you think AMA diving [00:10:00] diving will carry on? I know I know. [00:10:18] Even having spent just a few hours with these charming ladies [00:10:21] ladies has made me realise that the [00:10:23] the traditional old ways aren't just just romantic. They actually offer [00:10:27] offer a viable way of life for the the next generation. It was really [00:10:30] really interesting to learn that that people are coming back here [00:10:33] here to actually live and work as [00:10:35] as AMA divers. Maybe it's just very [00:10:37] very Japanese. The past is also [00:10:51] the future. Discover the world on [00:10:53] on BBC News [00:14:29] MUSIC [00:15:13] Live from London. This is BBC News. [00:15:17] News. Baby wards in England are to to get cot Camhs after an inquiry [00:15:20] inquiry into Nurse Lucy Letby, who who murdered seven children, found [00:15:24] found that lives could have been [00:15:27] been saved. The public inquiry found found there was a complete failure [00:15:31] failure at the hospital to protect [00:15:34] protect babies. Errors were made made by nurses, doctors and managers [00:15:37] managers at the time of these events. [00:15:40] events. There was also complete failure [00:15:42] failure at all levels to invoke safeguarding [00:15:45] safeguarding procedures at any point. [00:15:47] point. The EU chief hits out at Russia's [00:15:50] Russia's reckless and dangerous behaviour behaviour after a drone is shot down [00:15:53] down over European Union airspace [00:15:55] airspace by Nato fighter jets. The [00:15:58] The United States confirms for the the first