BBCNEWS — The World Today with Maryam Moshiri 20260915 173000 UTC 468 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:01:55] latest news wherever you are. Business [00:01:55] Business on BBC News. Make the connection. [00:02:06] connection. MUSIC [00:02:11] MUSIC [00:02:14] Hello, I'm Annita McVeigh and this is The Iran War Today bringing [00:02:18] bringing you up to date with all all you need to know on the US war [00:02:22] war with Iran. Let's start with some some of today's key developments. [00:02:25] developments. As the conflict widens. widens. Saudi Arabia and Yemen's [00:02:28] Yemen's armed forces have continued continued their fight against Iran [00:02:31] Iran backed Houthis in Yemen, launching launching dozens of air strikes on [00:02:35] on key Houthi positions. It's in in response to the militants targeting [00:02:38] targeting key oil pipelines and infrastructure. [00:02:41] infrastructure. The widening internal internal war between the Houthi militants [00:02:43] militants and Yemen's armed forces forces is causing a major humanitarian [00:02:47] humanitarian crisis. The UN says [00:02:50] says 100,000 people have been internally internally displaced. Thousands more [00:02:54] more have already fled across the the Bab al-Mandab Strait to Djibouti [00:02:57] Djibouti in less than a week. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, another vessel has been [00:03:01] been hit in the Strait of Hormuz. [00:03:03] Hormuz. UK maritime trade operations operations say an unknown projectile [00:03:06] projectile struck a vessel in the [00:03:08] the waterway. Oman's navy said they [00:03:10] they rescued 23 members of crew. crew. Only a handful of ships have [00:03:14] have been able to cross through the the strait in the last 24 hours. [00:03:18] hours. The fighting between Saudi Saudi Arabia and the Houthis, combined [00:03:21] combined with continued strikes in in the Strait of Hormuz, have kept [00:03:24] kept oil prices high, with Brent [00:03:26] Brent crude remaining above $100 [00:03:28] $100 a barrel. And Lebanon's Prime Prime Minister has revealed the huge [00:03:32] huge cost of Israel's war with Hezbollah [00:03:35] Hezbollah on his country. Prime Minister Minister Nawaf Salam said rebuilding [00:03:38] rebuilding will cost up to $4 billion [00:03:41] billion and will require support [00:03:43] support from other nations. As a [00:03:50] a stalemate continues between the the US and Iran, fighting continues [00:03:53] continues to escalate in the Red [00:03:55] Red Sea centred around the Iran backed [00:03:58] backed Houthis in Yemen. The Houthis Houthis claim they have hit a major [00:04:01] major Saudi base and seized more more strategic islands in the southern [00:04:05] southern Red Sea. Releasing this this footage of their attacks and [00:04:08] and rapid advance in Yemen, Saudi [00:04:11] Saudi and Yemeni forces have intensified intensified their strikes on Houthi [00:04:15] Houthi targets in response, releasing releasing footage of their own of [00:04:18] of successfully targeted strikes strikes on Houthi positions. Our [00:04:22] Our Middle East correspondent Hugo Hugo Bachega has the latest. The [00:04:26] The full-scale of the fighting on on the ground in Yemen remains unclear. [00:04:28] unclear. The Houthis have made significant [00:04:32] significant advances along the country's country's Red Sea coast and have [00:04:35] have been striking Saudi cities and and infrastructure. This has put [00:04:39] put a lot of pressure on energy supplies. [00:04:41] supplies. A vital east west pipeline [00:04:43] pipeline in Saudi Arabia has been [00:04:46] been shut after a drone attack a a few days ago, and concerns remain [00:04:50] remain that the Houthis may try to [00:04:53] to disrupt Saudi oil shipments in in the Bab al Mandab Strait, which [00:04:57] which has become a key alternative [00:05:00] alternative for Saudi oil exports. exports. Given that the Strait of [00:05:03] of Hormuz has been effectively closed closed because of the US war against [00:05:06] against Iran. In the meantime, Saudi Saudi and Yemeni forces have been [00:05:10] been striking Houthi positions with [00:05:13] with frequent air strikes and Houthi Houthi spokesperson said at least [00:05:16] least three people had been killed [00:05:18] killed in the latest Saudi attacks, [00:05:22] attacks, including two children. children. There hasn't been any reaction [00:05:26] reaction from the Saudi government [00:05:27] government and in Saudi Arabia, emergency [00:05:30] emergency alerts were sent for the the city of Mecca for the first time [00:05:34] time in this crisis, amid fears of [00:05:36] of renewed Houthi attacks. Now we we still don't know if the Houthis [00:05:39] Houthis are going to try to capture [00:05:40] capture more territory in Yemen or [00:05:44] or if the government and its allies [00:05:46] allies are planning to launch a wider [00:05:49] wider counteroffensive. But the concern concern here is that this violence [00:05:52] violence could reignite the civil civil war in Yemen after four years [00:05:56] years of relative calm. The renewed [00:05:59] renewed conflict in Yemen has left left more than 100,000 people internally [00:06:03] internally displaced. That's according according to the United Nations and [00:06:06] and has sparked thousands of people people to flee from Yemen across [00:06:09] across the Bab al-Mandab Strait to to Djibouti. The UN has called the [00:06:13] the huge influx of refugees unexpected [00:06:15] unexpected and is warning of a humanitarian humanitarian crisis if thousands [00:06:19] thousands more people arrive. If If the fighting continues. Our global [00:06:22] global affairs reporter Richard Kagoe [00:06:24] Kagoe has more from Nairobi. Well, [00:06:27] Well, the UN in Djibouti is saying [00:06:30] saying that they are currently overwhelmed overwhelmed by the influx of refugees [00:06:34] refugees who are fleeing the fighting fighting in Yemen, saying that they [00:06:37] they have so far received about 2400. [00:06:41] 2400. But the authorities in Djibouti [00:06:43] Djibouti indicating that there are [00:06:45] are thousands more, about 3400 and [00:06:47] and more are still coming. What they're [00:06:49] they're saying is that the town of of Obock, which is literally on the [00:06:53] the front line in terms of this response, [00:06:56] response, is currently overwhelmed overwhelmed because you're having [00:06:59] having majority of them who are children. children. They say that the children [00:07:02] children on arrival are appear to [00:07:05] to be stressed, also at the same [00:07:07] same time, they appear to be very very tired and are. But there's a [00:07:11] a sense of relief from them. The The fact that they have been able [00:07:13] able to escape the war and successfully [00:07:17] successfully navigated the waters waters across the Red Sea. So currently currently what they're doing is they're [00:07:21] they're doing registration, are providing [00:07:23] providing them with water, with food food and other supplies. The fighting [00:07:27] fighting in the Red Sea is having having a huge impact on the already [00:07:30] already inflated oil prices, and and it's clear to see why. Since [00:07:34] Since the start of the US-Israel US-Israel war with Iran, the Strait [00:07:36] Strait of Hormuz has either been been blocked or remained a highly [00:07:40] highly risky route for Saudi Arabia Arabia to try to ship its oil out [00:07:43] out to the rest of the world. To [00:07:45] To combat that, Saudi Arabia has has been piping oil across the country [00:07:49] country from east to west and using using the Red Sea to get its oil [00:07:52] oil out to the global market. The The problem is that pipeline has [00:07:56] has now been taken offline as a result [00:07:58] result of strikes by the Houthis Houthis and by Iran backed proxies [00:08:02] proxies in Iraq. Take a look at this this satellite image from Vancouver. [00:08:06] Vancouver. This is what one of Saudi Saudi Arabia's major pumping stations [00:08:10] stations looked like last October. October. And this is what the same [00:08:13] same pumping station looks like now. now. There is a huge amount of damage [00:08:17] damage to it, and experts have told [00:08:19] told BBC Verify repairs could take take more than a month. But even [00:08:22] even when Saudi Arabia can get the the pipeline back up and running, [00:08:25] running, the Houthis could still still cause issues. And that's because [00:08:29] because the ideal route out of the the Red Sea is the Bab al Mandab [00:08:33] Mandab Strait. But now, as the Houthis Houthis are blocking that route, [00:08:36] route, the only way for the oil to to go out of the Red Sea is through [00:08:39] through the Suez Canal in the north, [00:08:42] north, which is not only a much smaller smaller exit for ships, but it also [00:08:45] also means that any oil travelling travelling to Asia has to travel [00:08:49] travel all the way around the southern southern tip of Africa and time, [00:08:52] time, of course, means money. Well, [00:08:54] Well, let's speak to our North America America correspondent Samira Hussain. [00:08:58] Hussain. Samira, the conflict in in the Middle East was already having [00:09:01] having a major issues for the price price of oil. And these latest developments [00:09:04] developments are presumably cranking [00:09:05] cranking up that pressure even further. [00:09:08] further. Absolutely. We're seeing seeing now that the price of oil [00:09:11] oil is trading at around $109 a barrel. [00:09:14] barrel. That's for Brent crude. And [00:09:16] And as you rightly pointed out look, [00:09:19] look, you have the main Strait of [00:09:21] of Hormuz that is has been blocked [00:09:23] blocked because of the war with Iran. [00:09:25] Iran. And now you have the Bab al [00:09:28] al Mandab Strait Strait that is also also being constricted. And so there [00:09:31] there really is only one way to bring [00:09:34] bring oil out there. And it takes takes a long time for that to be [00:09:38] be able to happen. And it really really just limits how much oil can [00:09:42] can actually get to other countries. countries. So what is the impact [00:09:44] impact that we're seeing? Well, in in terms of global oil reserves, [00:09:48] reserves, we're seeing that those those are dwindling really quite [00:09:51] quite quickly. And so now what's what's going to have to happen is [00:09:54] is that other countries are going [00:09:56] going to have to buy commercial oil [00:09:59] oil to rebuild some of those supplies. supplies. And as we know, it comes [00:10:03] comes at a pretty hefty cost. And And Samira, what effect does all [00:10:06] all of this having on the wider markets [00:10:08] markets like bonds, for example? [00:10:11] example? Well. So the price of energy [00:10:14] energy as it goes higher, it has has a direct impact on inflation [00:10:17] inflation here in the United States. States. We just got some inflation inflation numbers and we know that [00:10:21] that a third of inflation the rises [00:10:24] rises in inflation that we've seen seen have to do with the high cost [00:10:28] cost of energy. And that just means means that we're going to see things [00:10:32] things like bond yields. So that that is the interest rate the rate [00:10:35] rate of interest that that investors investors will make on these bonds. [00:10:39] bonds. Well that's going higher. higher. But with inflation going [00:10:42] going higher it also means that investors investors are going to want to make [00:10:45] make more money elsewhere, which which is why you're seeing that there's [00:10:49] there's a selloff happening in the the bond market. And you see that [00:10:52] that investors are trying to find find more value for their buck. OK. [00:10:56] OK. Samira, thank you very much. [00:10:58] much. Samira Hussain there. Whether [00:11:00] Whether you are joining us on YouTube, YouTube, TikTok sounds Radio or TV, [00:11:04] TV, thank you for your time. We'll [00:11:06] We'll be back soon with another Iran [00:11:09] Iran war today. [00:12:12] coverage join me James Landale here [00:12:15] here on BBC News. Let's return now [00:12:22] now to the story. We began the programme programme with today and the news [00:12:26] news that OpenAI Anthropic and Google Google have said they're working [00:12:29] working to create an AI standards [00:12:31] standards body. All this after a [00:12:35] a number of insiders in the industry industry as well as politicians and [00:12:38] and other concerned individuals have have been raising huge concerns about [00:12:41] about the potential impact of AI [00:12:44] AI on humanity. We took you live live to an event that's happening [00:12:48] happening in Washington, the Pro-human Pro-human Assembly. It's called a [00:12:50] a whole range of people from across across the political spectrum speaking [00:12:54] speaking there. And in the last few few minutes we've heard from Steve [00:12:58] Steve Bannon. Now he is a right wing [00:13:00] wing ally of President Trump. But But unlike the President, he wants [00:13:04] wants kerbs on AI. And he lashed [00:13:07] lashed out at the major AI firms. [00:13:08] firms. Take a listen. Why is it that [00:13:12] that they can't win? Because the [00:13:15] the people don't trust them. The [00:13:19] The people don't trust them. And [00:13:20] And that trust is not going up. In [00:13:24] In the last 72 hours they've come [00:13:25] come out and said, you know, you're [00:13:28] you're correct. We actually should should have some sort of framework. [00:13:31] framework. OK. And you know, and [00:13:35] and maybe you have a human checking [00:13:36] checking in on us every now and again. [00:13:40] again. They've tried to cover up [00:13:43] up the danger by saying it's a psyop, [00:13:46] psyop, but using the psyop to try [00:13:49] try to get off liabilities, what [00:13:52] what they want is to socialise all [00:13:55] all the risk with the American people, [00:13:57] people, including potential bailouts [00:14:00] bailouts when they come and they [00:14:02] they want to keep all the upside. upside. So you can break this down [00:14:05] down to three component pieces. The The national security piece, the [00:14:10] the regulatory piece, and we can can talk about the financial and [00:14:13] and the economic when we talk about about the national security piece [00:14:17] piece every day, every paper, every [00:14:20] every time they're on TV, why do do we have to keep pushing so hard? [00:14:23] hard? Why is it relentless? Why can't [00:14:24] can't they have any controls if you're [00:14:28] you're not an accelerationist, you're [00:14:30] you're anti-American. If you're not [00:14:33] not an accelerationist, you're pro [00:14:35] pro Chinese Communist Party. If you're [00:14:39] you're not accelerationist, you're you're almost a Luddite. You want [00:14:42] want to take America back. Steve [00:14:44] Steve Bannon speaking at the Pro-human Pro-human Assembly in Washington. [00:14:48] Washington. And we're going to have have more on that story for you. [00:14:50] you. AI very much the story of the [00:14:53] the moment. Now, in other news, the the President of Lithuania says Nato [00:14:57] Nato fighter jets have shot down down a drone that enters entered [00:15:00] entered the country's airspace from from neighbouring Belarus. This was [00:15:04] was the moment the drone was brought brought down by Italian Nato fighter [00:15:08] fighter jets near the city of Kaunas. Kaunas. The interception, caught [00:15:11] caught by a resident security camera. camera. The debris, which was scattered [00:15:14] scattered over a wide area, is being being collected and examined by military [00:15:17] military police. It's the latest latest security incident in the Baltic [00:15:21] Baltic states since Russia launched launched its full-scale invasion [00:15:23] invasion of Ukraine in 2022. Our Our Eastern Europe correspondent [00:15:27] correspondent Sarah Rainsford sent sent this report from the capital [00:15:30] capital Vilnius. It was just after after midnight this morning here [00:15:34] here in Vilnius that my phone screeched screeched with an alert and when [00:15:36] when I checked the message, it said said there was a suspected drone. [00:15:40] drone. Keep safe, it said, and wait [00:15:42] wait for the all clear. Now that that all clear came about 20 minutes [00:15:46] minutes later and we now know that that there was a drone confirmed [00:15:49] confirmed that it was in Lithuanian Lithuanian airspace for around about about half an hour before it was [00:15:53] was intercepted and shot down by by Nato fighter jets belonging to [00:15:57] to Italy. We still don't know who who that drone belonged to. We don't [00:16:00] don't know whether it was launched launched deliberately or it might might have strayed into Lithuanian [00:16:04] Lithuanian airspace. We know that that it entered from neighbouring [00:16:08] neighbouring Belarus and that after after it was shot down, the debris debris was scattered over a wide [00:16:11] wide area. So it's being collected collected up and examined to see [00:16:15] see where it came from, who it was was launched by and whether or not [00:16:19] not it was armed. In fact, whether whether or not there was any explosives. [00:16:23] explosives. But this has happened happened at a nervous time here in [00:16:26] in this region because Russia is is escalating its full-scale war [00:16:30] war on Ukraine, and it is also escalating [00:16:31] escalating its hybrid attacks on [00:16:34] on Ukraine's greatest supporters. supporters. Vilnius Lithuania has [00:16:37] has always been a staunch supporter supporter of Ukraine ever since the [00:16:40] the full-scale invasion. This city city is still covered in Ukrainian [00:16:44] Ukrainian flags. There's lots of [00:16:46] of messages of solidarity for Kyiv [00:16:49] Kyiv here in this city, in this country, [00:16:52] country, in the past, when there there have been drone incursions incursions into other countries, [00:16:56] countries, including Poland and other other Baltic states, experts have [00:17:00] have suggested that Moscow could could be testing Nato's reactions. [00:17:02] reactions. At the moment here in in Lithuania, there are still more [00:17:05] more questions than answers, but but certainly there is now a full-scale [00:17:09] full-scale investigation into what what happened and who might be behind [00:17:12] behind it. Sarah Rainsford reporting [00:17:15] reporting the rapper Macklemore has has been dropped from Ed Sheeran's [00:17:18] Sheeran's US tour after making pro-Palestinian pro-Palestinian comments on stage. [00:17:22] stage. The artist was criticised criticised by Jewish groups after [00:17:25] after saying Free Palestine at two two concerts and making political [00:17:29] political speeches. Macklemore stood stood by his comments, saying in [00:17:32] in a statement that the real victims victims are the Palestinian people [00:17:35] people in Gaza. Writing on Instagram, [00:17:38] Instagram, he said anti-Semitism anti-Semitism is real and that is [00:17:41] is exactly why the word matters too [00:17:42] too much to be used as a shield against [00:17:46] against criticism of the Israeli [00:17:46] Israeli state. And he continued when [00:17:50] when criticising Israel opposing opposing Zionism or saying Free Palestine [00:17:53] Palestine gets conflated with hatred hatred of Jewish people, it doesn't [00:17:57] doesn't protect Jewish people. It [00:17:59] It protects Israel from accountability. accountability. Our music correspondent correspondent Mark Savage explains [00:18:03] explains the background to this story. story. Macklemore was supporting [00:18:07] supporting Ed Sheeran on the first first two dates of his US tour in [00:18:10] in New Jersey about ten days ago. ago. Actually this happened. He went [00:18:13] went on stage. He was introducing [00:18:15] introducing a song that references [00:18:18] references pro-Palestinian protests protests at Columbia University in [00:18:21] in 2024. Speaking to the audience, audience, he said Free Palestine Palestine and that he wanted people [00:18:24] people in Gaza to know that we have have not forgotten about them. He [00:18:28] He also broadcast images on the big [00:18:30] big video screens in the venue of of devastation in Gaza, following [00:18:34] following Israel's military action action there now that almost immediately [00:18:37] immediately triggered a backlash. backlash. The Israeli-American council [00:18:41] council launched a petition calling calling for him to be dropped from [00:18:44] from the tour. The Stop anti-Semitism anti-Semitism Organisation made a [00:18:47] a similar call on social media, saying [00:18:52] saying that he had a ambushed fans fans with anti-Israeli propaganda. [00:18:55] propaganda. That was a statement statement that got amplified by the [00:18:58] the pop star pink, who reposted it [00:19:00] it to her Instagram page. And in in the ten days while the tour has [00:19:04] has actually been on pause, there's there's just been a huge amount of [00:19:07] of discussion about what he said said on stage and that has led to [00:19:11] to some of the venues pressuring pressuring the promoters of the tour [00:19:13] tour to drop Macklemore from the the future concerts. The remaining [00:19:17] remaining eight dates of Ed Sheeran's Sheeran's US tour and that is what [00:19:21] what has now happened. And in the the last couple of hours, Ed Sheeran [00:19:23] Sheeran has issued a statement on on the removal of Macklemore as part [00:19:27] part of a longer post. He said there [00:19:30] there is a reason I do not use my my professional platform for politics. [00:19:33] politics. My audience includes young [00:19:35] young people, often children of all all backgrounds. Those who come to [00:19:38] to my shows do not expect a political [00:19:41] political forum. Well, let's speak [00:19:42] speak now to Lisa Verrico, music [00:19:45] music journalist at The Times. Lisa, [00:19:48] Lisa, welcome to the programme. What What do you make of all of this of [00:19:51] of Ed Sheeran's response? Well, I [00:19:54] I mean, Ed Sheeran is taking a while while to respond and I don't blame blame him. He's probably wondering [00:19:58] wondering how all this happened. happened. He's friends with the rapper rapper Macklemore and he invited [00:20:02] invited him on part of his tour, tour, this huge loop tour he's been [00:20:05] been doing all year. It's his North [00:20:06] North American leg of the tour like [00:20:10] like Macklemore is well known, used used to be in a Duo called Macklemore Macklemore and Ryan Lewis and they've [00:20:14] they've always been political and and he's spoken out about Palestine [00:20:17] Palestine in the past. And there there is a Ferrari about whether whether Ed Sheeran should have invited [00:20:21] invited him to play or not if he he knew it was going to do. I mean, [00:20:24] mean, the point is this is Ed Sheeran's Sheeran's tour. It's in stadiums. [00:20:27] stadiums. He's got a point. He's He's always been purposely apolitical [00:20:30] apolitical and a lot of people that that were complaining were saying, saying, well, you know, we didn't [00:20:33] didn't pay to come and see Macklemore Macklemore we didn't know that this [00:20:36] this was going to happen. And of [00:20:38] of course, now there's a lot of backlash backlash for Ed Sheeran saying, how [00:20:42] how could you let this happen? You You should have stood up for him. [00:20:45] him. So it's one of these situations situations that you kind of can't [00:20:48] can't win. But you know, there's there's a lot of politics and pop pop at the minute and this is going [00:20:52] going to keep happening. Yeah. Politics Politics and pop. Exactly. I mean [00:20:54] mean for decades past, you know, know, certain musicians have been [00:20:58] been associated with political statements, statements, whether, you know, you you go back to the time of the Vietnam [00:21:02] Vietnam War, Vietnam War or any time [00:21:04] time since then. But on the other other hand, in a very fractious world, [00:21:08] world, you also have the argument argument that many people will go [00:21:10] go to a concert looking to escape [00:21:12] escape all of that, looking to escape [00:21:15] escape politics. Yeah. But also you're you're in a social media world where [00:21:19] where everybody can voice their opinion opinion and the people who don't [00:21:21] don't like it always shout the loudest. loudest. I think interesting about [00:21:25] about the kind of Palestine situation. situation. I mean, if you look at [00:21:29] at a lot of music and protest pop pop in the past, it's been quite [00:21:33] quite generational. So, you know, know, like Rock against Racism or [00:21:36] or even Red wedge, you know, it's it's like the older generation. You [00:21:39] You just haven't caught up with us us yet. You know, the world is changing. [00:21:42] changing. You know, get with the the programme. Whereas this isn't [00:21:46] isn't and it's just it's very mixed mixed up. And you know, people from [00:21:49] from all ages getting involved, it's it's such an incendiary topic. I [00:21:52] I mean, you'd think I thought you you would, you know, why are we not not seeing more Ukraine flags on [00:21:56] on stage? You'd think there'd be be a lot more anti-Trump rhetoric. [00:21:59] rhetoric. There is a bit of it, but but not so much. But this issue is [00:22:02] is just it seems to be huge in pop pop and across all culture at the [00:22:06] the moment. And as soon as someone someone brings it up, you know, the [00:22:09] the internet goes wild. Lisa, thank thank you very much for joining us. [00:22:12] us. Lisa Verrico from the Times. [00:22:16] Times. Now a crowded waiting room room and trolleys and corridors may [00:22:19] may be a sight all too familiar for for some doctors and nurses, but [00:22:22] but a television series, The Pitt, Pitt, is earning praise for what [00:22:25] what the medical profession is calling calling the most realistic drama [00:22:28] drama yet. The Pitt was nominated nominated for 25 Emmys and ultimately [00:22:32] ultimately won Best Drama Series, Series, with Noah Wylie also winning [00:22:36] winning best lead Actor in a drama [00:22:38] drama and some of the show's biggest [00:22:41] biggest fans are doctors. And one [00:22:42] one of those fans is Doctor Anthony Anthony Cirillo, president of the [00:22:46] the American College of Emergency Emergency Physicians, who joins us us now. Thank you very much for taking [00:22:49] taking the time to talk to us. I [00:22:51] I mean, I've watched The Pitt. It's [00:22:54] It's absolutely compelling. How true [00:22:56] true to life is it? It is the real [00:23:02] real embodiment of what we experience experience every day. And we not [00:23:05] not just the physicians, but as you [00:23:07] you said, the whole team of the emergency emergency department and patients [00:23:10] patients and families and loved ones, ones, they've done an incredible [00:23:13] incredible job of making this the [00:23:15] the validation of what happens every every day in emergency departments. [00:23:19] departments. And as you said, not not just here in America, but we [00:23:22] we know that there are challenges challenges with providing emergency [00:23:26] emergency care around the world. world. Yeah. How or which elements [00:23:28] elements of it hit closest to home, [00:23:30] home, in your view? For me and I've [00:23:34] I've been practising now for 35 years, [00:23:36] years, the fact that they can treat [00:23:39] treat actors, people who don't even even understand the words they're [00:23:42] they're saying, how to say them in in a way that that is so natural [00:23:45] natural or looks so natural. And And then to teach them the skills, [00:23:49] skills, the manual dexterity, dexterity dexterity to do some of the procedures. [00:23:53] procedures. It's truly amazing to to watch how these actors can take [00:23:56] take on the role of a health care [00:23:59] care professional with just the coaching coaching from the other medical professionals, [00:24:02] professionals, it really is astounding. astounding. Yeah, the medical dialogue dialogue has stood out to me as well. [00:24:06] well. I've often sat and watched watched it and thought, how on earth [00:24:09] earth do they make it sound so convincing? [00:24:12] convincing? Now Noah Wylie's character character is Doctor Michael Rabinovitch. [00:24:15] Rabinovitch. Doctor Robbie to fans fans of the show, his character is [00:24:19] is very open about his mental health health struggles. Does that reflect [00:24:22] reflect the emergency rooms you have [00:24:25] have worked in, or is it a allowing [00:24:27] allowing those sorts of conversations [00:24:29] conversations to become more open [00:24:31] open in, in medical settings? Anita [00:24:35] Anita it reflects reality. And the the reality is that at least here [00:24:38] here in the States, 1 in 5 adults [00:24:41] adults suffers from some form of of mental illness. And to think about [00:24:44] about in that cast and all of the [00:24:47] the people in that room, in that that department, how many of them [00:24:50] them might be suffering at the same same time? And here in the States [00:24:53] States this month is is National National Suicide Awareness Month. [00:24:57] Month. And actually in two days will will be physician Suicide Awareness [00:25:01] Awareness Day. So I think Robbie [00:25:04] Robbie Noah has allowed many of us [00:25:07] us who have felt overwhelmed at times [00:25:08] times to be able to say, it's OK [00:25:11] OK to say that that the stigma of [00:25:13] of feeling overwhelmed in an overwhelming [00:25:16] overwhelming environment is almost almost normal. And, and he really [00:25:19] really has allowed us to be able [00:25:22] able to say it's OK to be struggling, struggling, but it's OK to get help [00:25:26] help as well. And just finally and and briefly, if you would, Doctor [00:25:29] Doctor Cirillo, seeing those awards, awards, those Emmy Awards, going [00:25:32] going to the show, to the fabulous fabulous team behind it does that [00:25:36] that in some way make you feel that [00:25:39] that real life physicians, nurses, nurses, all of the teams in the emergency [00:25:42] emergency departments are also being [00:25:44] being recognised. That word I use [00:25:47] use is validated, Anita. And for for many, many years we've never [00:25:50] never really felt if people understood understood how what we do is really [00:25:54] really hard every day and hard for for us, but hard for patients and [00:25:57] and again, hard for families and and loved ones and for them to portray [00:26:01] portray it as real as they do. And [00:26:04] And then for no one to go beyond. beyond. Doctor Cirillo, I'm so sorry [00:26:06] sorry to bring an end to that conversation. conversation. 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