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[00:01:20] from BBC News. The chief executive executive of the tech giant Nvidia,
[00:01:24] Nvidia, Jensen Huang, says there's
[00:01:26] there's no need for new laws on artificial artificial intelligence, even as
[00:01:30] as calls for more regulation grow.
[00:01:32] grow. Baby wards in England are to
[00:01:34] to get cot cams after an inquiry inquiry into the nurse Lucy Letby,
[00:01:38] Letby, who murdered seven babies,
[00:01:40] babies, found that lives could have have been saved. Several support
[00:01:44] support acts for Ed Sheeran's US
[00:01:46] US tour have pulled out in solidarity
[00:01:48] solidarity with the rapper Macklemore Macklemore after he was barred from
[00:01:52] from forthcoming performances for for making pro-Palestinian statements
[00:01:55] statements on stage. China warns warns against turning outer space
[00:01:59] space into a battlefield as the United United States confirms for the first
[00:02:03] first time it has deployed space space weapons and the former England
[00:02:07] England footballer Raheem Sterling Sterling has admitted dangerous driving
[00:02:10] driving after he crashed a Lamborghini Lamborghini into motorway barriers
[00:02:14] barriers in May. Well, in the last
[00:02:23] last hour, the chief executive of
[00:02:25] of Nvidia has said that there is
[00:02:27] is no need for new laws on AI. Instead,
[00:02:31] Instead, artificial intelligence intelligence companies should, quote, quote, simply not release anything
[00:02:35] anything that they're not confident confident will be safe. Now he is
[00:02:37] is one of several AI bosses who've
[00:02:39] who've been speaking at a conference conference in California. Anthropic
[00:02:43] Anthropic boss says it is tempting tempting to attack competitors, but
[00:02:47] but it is more responsible to try
[00:02:49] try to establish industry wide standards.
[00:02:53] standards. If we're not confident confident about the safety of the the products, like all companies
[00:02:56] companies like you and I, any, any,
[00:02:59] any, all the companies here, if you you build a product or a service
[00:03:02] service and you're not confident
[00:03:05] confident in its functionality, capability capability or safety, then don't
[00:03:08] don't release it. And so that's a
[00:03:09] a very obvious thing to do. You pace
[00:03:13] pace yourself until you are confident confident you're releasing something
[00:03:16] something that the market would appreciate. appreciate. The market forces are are already there. We don't need
[00:03:19] need any new laws. We don't need
[00:03:22] need any new regulations. We just
[00:03:23] just need companies to decide that
[00:03:26] that when it's, you know, run as
[00:03:28] as fast as they can. I think innovation,
[00:03:31] innovation, speed and safe products
[00:03:33] products are not it's a false choice. choice. You could definitely have
[00:03:36] have both at the same time. Well.
[00:03:39] Well. Meanwhile, US and Chinese leaders leaders are due to meet in Washington
[00:03:42] Washington next week. And it would
[00:03:44] would appear that artificial intelligence intelligence will be a key and potentially
[00:03:48] potentially testing topic of conversation. conversation. President Trump has
[00:03:52] has continued to bat away suggestions suggestions from across the political
[00:03:55] political divide that there does
[00:03:57] does need to be greater AI regulation,
[00:04:00] regulation, but this continuing discussion discussion has brought some unlikely unlikely names together. And at a
[00:04:04] a summit in Washington today, US US Senator Bernie Sanders called
[00:04:08] called on President Trump and his his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping
[00:04:11] Jinping to sign a treaty to pause
[00:04:14] pause development of advanced AI AI technology. He warned it would
[00:04:18] would potentially bring catastrophic
[00:04:21] catastrophic consequences. AI has has the potential, as I think we
[00:04:25] we all know, to do some extraordinarily
[00:04:28] extraordinarily good things in terms terms of health care, prescription
[00:04:32] prescription drug development and and in many other areas. But the
[00:04:35] the bottom line here is that our
[00:04:39] our job as human beings in our country country and throughout the world
[00:04:42] world is to make sure that AI works
[00:04:46] works for all of the people and does
[00:04:49] does not simply end up making a handful
[00:04:51] handful of the richest people on
[00:04:53] on earth even richer. Well, we also
[00:04:57] also heard from Steve Bannon at that that conference, a right wing ally
[00:05:01] ally of Donald Trump who wants kerbs
[00:05:04] kerbs on AI, also lashed out at the the major artificial intelligence
[00:05:08] intelligence companies. Every day.
[00:05:11] day. Every paper, every time they're they're on TV. Why do we have to
[00:05:15] to keep pushing so hard? Why is it it relentless? Why can't they have
[00:05:18] have any controls if you're not in
[00:05:23] in accelerationist, you're anti-American.
[00:05:24] anti-American. If you're not an accelerationist,
[00:05:28] accelerationist, you're pro Chinese
[00:05:29] Chinese Communist Party. If you're
[00:05:32] you're not accelerationist, you're you're almost a Luddite. You want
[00:05:35] want to take America back. Well,
[00:05:39] Well, a lot of the discussions at
[00:05:42] at that summit there and also indeed
[00:05:44] indeed at the major AI companies companies is how we can control the
[00:05:48] the growth of artificial intelligence. intelligence. And it is a question question that my colleague Christian
[00:05:52] Christian Fraser and the team on on the BBC AI Decoded programme are
[00:05:56] are looking at this week. Here's
[00:05:57] Here's a snippet. Let's talk more
[00:06:05] more about the control problem. I I mean, we know these systems can
[00:06:07] can act on their own. The harder harder question is whether anyone, anyone, including the people who
[00:06:11] who built them, can see what's going
[00:06:13] going on inside the brain. And there there were certain things that Dario
[00:06:17] Dario Amodei said. I mean, he was was pretty candid in his letter,
[00:06:19] letter, Max, about that. He says says they only understand a fraction
[00:06:23] fraction of what goes on inside these
[00:06:25] these models that they're building. building. So with that in mind, what
[00:06:29] what would a speed limit look like like and for what purpose? Yeah,
[00:06:32] Yeah, I think that's the really tricky tricky thing that was not defined
[00:06:36] defined particularly well in the the letter. And I think that the the only sort of example that we
[00:06:39] we had was at the point where, let's let's say, a model becomes capable
[00:06:42] capable of X, then we need to be be doing y. And x was an example
[00:06:45] example of something able to break break out of sandboxes, which is is what we used to contain these
[00:06:49] these agents from a safety perspective. perspective. And Y was a pretty airy
[00:06:53] airy answer on making sure they don't don't have the propensity to go and
[00:06:57] and target large-scale sections of of the internet and compromise computers. computers. I mean, that's one of
[00:07:01] of the only problems we can really really nail down today. And we've we've already seen the tricky nature
[00:07:04] nature of trying to put a speed limit limit in around here and defining defining what those look like. And
[00:07:08] And I'm struggling. To understand understand what the speed limit is
[00:07:09] is for. Is it for compute? Is it
[00:07:13] it leaps in capability? Is it the the time between releases? What is
[00:07:17] is I mean, how do you what are you you trying to measure? Yeah. It's It's very it's incredibly broad.
[00:07:20] broad. And the language that's being being used is, is incredibly broad
[00:07:24] broad because I don't think these these companies want to be pinned
[00:07:27] pinned down to definitions to say, say, OK, well, we're going to slow
[00:07:29] slow down on this part of our development, development, but we're not going going to slow down on this part of
[00:07:33] of our development as well. And I I think that's why that language language is being used and why it's
[00:07:37] it's being kept as broad as it is. is. And that's the problem, Andy,
[00:07:40] Andy, isn't it, for the for American American lawmakers is what are you
[00:07:43] you legislating on and for? Well,
[00:07:46] Well, there's already draft legislation
[00:07:49] legislation to require these companies companies to have what they're calling
[00:07:52] calling a kill switch. So in other other words, if they start to lose
[00:07:56] lose control, they can turn the models
[00:07:58] models off. And that is currently currently not required. There's almost,
[00:08:02] almost, you know, zero regulation regulation at the moment. So anything
[00:08:05] anything and I do believe Congress Congress is inclined to establish
[00:08:09] establish some regulatory oversight
[00:08:11] oversight of this industry. And hopefully
[00:08:14] hopefully before a terrible crisis
[00:08:16] crisis happens. Just an excerpt of
[00:08:22] of AI Decoded and you can catch the the full episode later on this week
[00:08:25] week on YouTube and here on the BBC
[00:08:28] BBC News Channel. Over the weekend
[00:08:32] weekend now, residents of a small small village in Oxfordshire here
[00:08:36] here in the UK have held a symbolic
[00:08:38] symbolic vote today on whether or or not they should become independent
[00:08:42] independent from the United Kingdom.
[00:08:44] Kingdom. Around 350 people live in in Piddington. Now their referendum
[00:08:48] referendum is in protest at government government plans to house more than
[00:08:51] than a thousand male asylum-seekers asylum-seekers on their doorstep.
[00:08:54] doorstep. Well, the asylum-seekers asylum-seekers would be moved into
[00:08:57] into this former military storage
[00:08:59] storage depot, which is called site site A quadrupling the village's
[00:09:03] village's population. Our correspondent
[00:09:06] correspondent Duncan Kennedy reports. It's the Oxfordshire village
[00:09:09] village that's mentioned in the Domesday Domesday Book, but Piddington is
[00:09:12] is now at the centre of a very modern
[00:09:15] modern chapter of British life. People
[00:09:17] People have been voting all day in
[00:09:20] in their own referendum. They want
[00:09:23] want independence from the UK so so they can block plans to house
[00:09:26] house asylum-seekers nearby. Jolly Jolly good. I'm just going to go
[00:09:30] go in now. Voting by post and in
[00:09:32] in person at the village hall has
[00:09:34] has been brisk all day. You don't
[00:09:37] don't think it's a futile exercise exercise because it has no legal
[00:09:40] legal binding? I think it's an exercise exercise that sends out a powerful
[00:09:43] powerful message. We understand it
[00:09:45] it has no legal binding. The village
[00:09:47] village with a population of around
[00:09:50] around 350 people, is just half a a mile from this disused military
[00:09:54] military base where the Home Office
[00:09:56] Office want to house 1250 asylum-seekers.
[00:09:59] asylum-seekers. The camp was used used for storage. The only people
[00:10:02] people here today were the security
[00:10:04] security guards filming us. The referendum
[00:10:08] referendum voting slip asks if people
[00:10:10] people want to secede from the UK.
[00:10:12] UK. It has no legal basis but villagers
[00:10:16] villagers say it is symbolic. It's It's just really hard to see that
[00:10:19] that many people that are unvetted unvetted and you just don't know
[00:10:22] know who they are. It's just the the sheer scale of it. That's putting
[00:10:26] putting these people everywhere. everywhere. They shouldn't do it. it. It's disgraceful. They've got
[00:10:30] got to wake up and smell the coffee coffee and not kick the can down
[00:10:34] down the road, which everyone's been
[00:10:35] been doing. We are the women of Piddington.
[00:10:38] Piddington. The villagers have even even made their own campaign videos
[00:10:41] videos to get their message across. across. In a statement, the Home
[00:10:45] Home Office said we are working fairly
[00:10:47] fairly to house asylum-seekers across across the country, including former
[00:10:51] former military sites which are designed
[00:10:55] designed to be self-contained. We We did try to find somebody in the
[00:10:58] the village not voting for independence, independence, but there weren't any.
[00:11:01] any. It may only be a paper exercise,
[00:11:04] exercise, but it reflects the views views of this community and many
[00:11:08] many others around the country. Just Just like they were in Crowborough
[00:11:11] Crowborough in East Sussex earlier earlier this year when local people
[00:11:15] people tried to block similar plans
[00:11:16] plans to put asylum-seekers in a
[00:11:19] a military camp. The villagers in in Oxfordshire want their message
[00:11:23] message to travel far and wide as
[00:11:25] as well, even if it is unlikely that
[00:11:27] that anyone will ever need a passport passport to Piddington. Well. Let's
[00:11:31] Let's talk about this now with the the immigration lawyer Hardeep Singh
[00:11:34] Singh Bhangal. Thank you very much much for coming in. What do you think
[00:11:38] think of this extraordinary referendum referendum in this little village?
[00:11:40] village? Well, it's clearly a protest protest and the villagers feel that
[00:11:44] that they do not want asylum-seekers asylum-seekers housed near them,
[00:11:48] them, although traditionally there there have been detention centres
[00:11:51] centres in Oxford and nearby Cambridge,
[00:11:52] Cambridge, so in Oxford, in Kidlington Kidlington there was a detention
[00:11:56] detention centre, Campsfield House, House, which has recently been reopened
[00:11:59] reopened last year, can house up up to about 500 people detained.
[00:12:03] detained. Of course, and Cambridge. Cambridge. Similarly in Oakington
[00:12:07] Oakington disused now stopped centre centre in 2010 could also house hundreds.
[00:12:10] hundreds. But I think the key is is here whether they would be detained
[00:12:14] detained or actually allowed outside
[00:12:16] outside and that might make a difference. difference. Obviously is making a
[00:12:19] a difference to the views of the the villagers. Do you understand
[00:12:21] understand those views? Do you understand understand that anger that you know
[00:12:25] know their population is about to to be quadrupled potentially. We
[00:12:28] We can understand that. And change change obviously is very hard. And
[00:12:31] And a lot of people don't like change, change, especially people who are
[00:12:34] are set in their ways and have lived lived in villages. But you've got
[00:12:37] got to see whether the infrastructure infrastructure is there and the government
[00:12:40] government have to see whether they're they're overloading the cities by
[00:12:43] by housing asylum-seekers. Now the the key is before the next election,
[00:12:46] election, the government has promised promised to get rid of asylum hotels.
[00:12:50] hotels. Thus allegedly saving the
[00:12:53] the public £1 billion. Now those those asylum-seekers have to be housed
[00:12:57] housed elsewhere. This whole crisis crisis is built up as a result of
[00:13:00] of the Home Office, which is broken,
[00:13:04] broken, which takes years up to years years to decide asylum claims. Now
[00:13:07] Now remember I told you about this this detention centre in Cambridge,
[00:13:11] Cambridge, Oakington that was a fast fast track centre under the previous
[00:13:14] previous Labour government in the the 2000. I know I used to go there
[00:13:18] there regularly every week. They They would decide your claim. The
[00:13:21] The whole claim from start to finish
[00:13:23] finish in seven days. Now that same same process is taking a year. And
[00:13:27] And why is that then? Why is that that slowed down so dramatically?
[00:13:30] dramatically? Because we have an an institution like the Home Office, Office, which is not fit for purpose.
[00:13:34] purpose. Every year we have a Home Home Affairs Select Committee report. report. And for the last ten odd
[00:13:38] odd years I've been reading it. It It actually says this institution
[00:13:41] institution is not fit for purpose. purpose. So when you ask a factory
[00:13:44] factory whose machinery is broken broken to make you perfect products,
[00:13:48] products, it won't be able to do do it. You need an alternative machinery
[00:13:51] machinery or you have to knock this this down and make it again rather rather than papering over the cracks,
[00:13:55] cracks, but not fit for purpose. purpose. Is this the. Individual
[00:13:58] Individual staff, the people who who are processing these asylum claims
[00:14:01] claims that are just being too slow,
[00:14:03] slow, not very good at it, too slow, slow, inexperienced. I mean, one
[00:14:06] one year they had gap year students students deciding claims and a lot
[00:14:09] lot of the decisions were wrong at
[00:14:11] at tribunal. When it goes to appeal,
[00:14:14] appeal, 50% are decided to decisions decisions are wrongly made. It's
[00:14:17] It's decided that they're wrongly
[00:14:18] wrongly made. So all of this the
[00:14:21] the above the fact that the interview interview process is long. The interviews
[00:14:24] interviews take for four hours at at a go. Staff are only knocking
[00:14:27] knocking out one or two decisions decisions a month when they could
[00:14:31] could do that knock out about three three decisions a week. A claim should
[00:14:34] should take maximum a day to decide, decide, not a year. It's the way
[00:14:38] way you say it. It makes it sound sound really easy. You wonder why
[00:14:42] why governments haven't managed to to make all this happen much more more quickly because as we've just
[00:14:45] just seen, it's causing such distress,
[00:14:47] distress, such. Anger in so many
[00:14:50] many communities. Well, Labour have have promised to reintroduce that.
[00:14:53] that. And the figures are sort of of swaying their way. Remember the
[00:14:56] the fast track system was there under under a Labour government. The Conservatives,
[00:14:59] Conservatives, in all their wisdom,
[00:15:01] wisdom, abandoned it and indeed numbers
[00:15:04] numbers of asylum claims went up.
[00:15:06] up. The removals went down under under the Conservative government.
[00:15:09] government. Labour now claim that
[00:15:11] that the boat crossings are down down and that the removals are up,
[00:15:14] up, and the figures do seem to support support that, but not in the numbers
[00:15:18] numbers that the country or the population population deems right. And essentially
[00:15:22] essentially that's all that's going going to matter. The optics. Labour
[00:15:26] Labour want to stop this optics moving
[00:15:29] moving 100,000 asylum-seekers from from hotels into other accommodation accommodation technically doesn't
[00:15:33] doesn't reduce the number, but what what it does in people's eyes, they
[00:15:36] they say, well hold on, they're not not being housed and living in five
[00:15:39] five star hotels any more and that that bodes well. Or Labour think
[00:15:42] think will bode well for them for for the next election. RJ Singh, Singh, Bengal immigration lawyer
[00:15:45] lawyer thank you very much for coming coming in to the studio. Thank you.
[00:15:49] you. We'll take a short break. Back Back in just
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[00:16:55] us on The President's Path here. On BBC News. Welcome
[00:17:04] here. On BBC News. Welcome back. back. Here in the UK, one of the
[00:17:06] the senior doctors who tried to raise raise concerns about the nurse Lucy
[00:17:10] Lucy Letby with hospital managers managers has told the BBC that the
[00:17:13] the Thirlwall Inquiry report is grim.
[00:17:16] grim. Reading consultant paediatrician paediatrician Doctor John Gibbs,
[00:17:19] Gibbs, now retired, was working at
[00:17:20] at the Countess of Chester Hospital
[00:17:23] Hospital throughout the period 2015
[00:17:26] 2015 to 16 when Letby has been convicted convicted of murdering and attempting
[00:17:29] attempting to murder babies on the
[00:17:31] the neonatal unit. Well, this is
[00:17:33] is the first time in this three year
[00:17:36] year period that any consultant involved involved in the case has been speaking
[00:17:39] speaking to the media. Speaking to to our North of England correspondent
[00:17:43] correspondent Judith Moritz, Doctor Doctor Gibbs said that he accepts
[00:17:45] accepts that consultants must bear bear collective responsibility for
[00:17:49] for some of the failings identified identified in the report. What do
[00:17:53] do you make of what Lady Justice
[00:17:55] Justice Thirlwall has had to say?
[00:17:57] say? I think overall it's a very
[00:17:59] very fair report. I wasn't expecting expecting it to be an easy read and
[00:18:03] and it certainly isn't. I'd imagine imagine it's extremely difficult
[00:18:06] difficult read for the parents of
[00:18:07] of the babies concerned. As I admitted
[00:18:12] admitted when I appeared before the the inquiry to give evidence that
[00:18:15] that I feel we failed the babies
[00:18:18] babies and I apologise to the families
[00:18:20] families for that. And in a careful
[00:18:25] careful way, Lady Justice Thirlwall Thirlwall points out how we could
[00:18:28] could and should have escalated matters matters ultimately to the police
[00:18:32] police earlier than we did. This This report looks at the actions
[00:18:35] actions of everyone at the hospital hospital and the failings not just
[00:18:38] just of the leadership but of consultants. consultants. Do you recognise those?
[00:18:42] those? Yes. Yes. I think most of
[00:18:45] of us owned up to our failings when when we gave evidence at the inquiry,
[00:18:49] inquiry, and that's all in the report.
[00:18:51] report. And some of those failings
[00:18:54] failings are pointedly the subject subject of recommendations. And when
[00:18:57] when it came to, for example, noticing noticing the insulin results, the
[00:19:01] the blood test results of one of of the babies. Yes. That was one
[00:19:05] one doctor that you say it was a a collective failure. It's a collective
[00:19:08] collective failure. There was one one of my consultant colleagues who
[00:19:12] who was covering the neonatal unit unit at the time the results came
[00:19:14] came back. Who did see those results?
[00:19:17] results? Didn't recognise the significance significance of them. But others
[00:19:20] others of us were on call and covering covering the neonatal unit over the
[00:19:24] the next week or two before the baby baby moved out of the unit. We all
[00:19:27] all had the opportunity to review review the notes. It wasn't just
[00:19:30] just one person that saw those notes.
[00:19:32] notes. I think also you could say,
[00:19:35] say, and it's in the report. The
[00:19:37] The way that insulin results are are handled in the laboratory and
[00:19:41] and communicated to the doctors looking looking after the baby needs to be
[00:19:44] be improved. Lady Justice Thirlwall Thirlwall says that had action been
[00:19:48] been taken more swiftly, some of
[00:19:50] of these attacks may well have been been stopped. Do you accept that?
[00:19:54] that? Yes, there are multiple time time points when action could have
[00:19:57] have been taken more definitive action
[00:20:00] action and ultimately the police police could have got involved a
[00:20:03] a lot earlier. From my point of view, view, and it might be a little different,
[00:20:07] different, not a lot different for
[00:20:08] for some of my consultant colleagues. colleagues. Suspicions that deliberate
[00:20:12] deliberate harm may have been happening happening on the unit were well enough
[00:20:15] enough formed later on in 2016 that
[00:20:19] that it should have been possible possible to intervene and prevent
[00:20:21] prevent harm to the final few babies.
[00:20:24] babies. Others may feel intervention intervention could, could have and
[00:20:27] and should have been done much earlier
[00:20:28] earlier than that. How is that to
[00:20:33] to live with? Very difficult. Yeah.
[00:20:38] Yeah. And I've yet to sit down and
[00:20:40] and face the families, you know, know, because the whole of this process
[00:20:44] process from when we started to have have suspicions, the police getting getting involved, going to court,
[00:20:47] court, then waiting for this inquiry inquiry means you are limited in
[00:20:51] in what you can say to parents. And And it does increase the parents
[00:20:54] parents frustration that things have have been hidden from them to a certain
[00:20:57] certain extent. When it came to your
[00:21:01] your bosses, senior managers, the
[00:21:03] the executives. This report is damning.
[00:21:07] damning. What was your experience experience during that year of how
[00:21:10] how they handled your worries? Well, Well, none of us at the Countess
[00:21:14] Countess of Chester who were involved involved with the neonatal unit and
[00:21:16] and the management of the unit performed performed particularly well. So I
[00:21:20] I can't claim we were fine. What
[00:21:22] What I did was fine and the managers
[00:21:24] managers didn't perform properly. properly. Consultant paediatrician
[00:21:28] paediatrician doctor John Gibbs you're
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[00:21:52] makes this country unique. This is
[00:21:55] is ultimate Japan. This time I visit
[00:22:00] visit Toba in the South to witness witness the ultimate Japanese fishing
[00:22:04] fishing tradition. I'm on a small
[00:22:06] small island in an area called Toba,
[00:22:08] Toba, which is home to one of Japan's
[00:22:11] Japan's most unusual communities, communities, a group, mostly women
[00:22:15] women who over generations have forged forged a really tight bond with both
[00:22:18] both the sea and nature generally.
[00:22:28] generally. An iconic Japanese free
[00:22:30] free divers who collect seafood, seafood, seaweed and even pearls
[00:22:33] pearls from the sea floor. Almost
[00:22:36] Almost all AMA are women, and many
[00:22:38] many keep diving until their 70s.
[00:22:41] 70s. 80s and even 90s diving without
[00:22:46] without oxygen in their traditional traditional white outfits. It's a a centuries old way of life that's
[00:22:50] that's been passed down through generations.
[00:22:52] generations. But today's divers under under threat from all the pressures
[00:22:56] pressures of modernity, are having having to adapt. Like here, displaying
[00:23:00] displaying their skills for tourists.
[00:23:04] tourists. Tell me, what is this show
[00:23:07] show about? I know. I know. Which
[00:23:20] Which do you prefer? Getting real real fish or would you like doing
[00:23:23] doing this and performing to tourists.
[00:23:27] tourists. Or not? No. It's kind of
[00:23:34] of ironic because for a long time
[00:23:36] time Japan was a homogenous and quite
[00:23:38] quite inward looking society. But
[00:23:41] But it's outsiders, tourists who who are now providing a major industry
[00:23:44] industry here. But rest assured elsewhere
[00:23:47] elsewhere there is still some genuine genuine armour diving going on. A
[00:23:51] A few miles along the shore in Asatsu,
[00:23:53] Asatsu, I meet some divers who are are still making a living from this
[00:23:57] this traditional form of fishing.
[00:24:03] fishing. He obachan sorry. To. Toshi
[00:24:14] Toshi Osawa. Umi. I don't know. Oyo
[00:24:26] Oyo State more. Jeremy Bowen. Dan
[00:24:36] Dan Roan. Yet these Amer still need
[00:24:41] need to supplement their income by by preparing meals for. Well, people
[00:24:45] people like me. How is it different
[00:24:49] different now diving to when you
[00:24:50] you first started doing it? So Martin
[00:25:01] Martin Lindsay. And why do you think
[00:25:04] think that is? Do you think diving
[00:25:08] diving will carry on? I know what
[00:25:17] what I. Even having spent just a
[00:25:28] a few hours with these charming ladies ladies has made me realise that the
[00:25:32] the traditional old ways aren't just just romantic. They actually offer
[00:25:36] offer a viable way of life for the the next generation. It was really
[00:25:39] really interesting to learn that that people are coming back here
[00:25:41] here to actually live and work as
[00:25:44] as AMA divers. Maybe it's just very
[00:25:47] very Japanese. The past is also
[00:26:00] the future. Discover the world on
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