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[00:00:08] I'm sundanda in Washington and this is
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[00:00:11] of World News America. The United Nations issues a
[00:00:14] of warning about the humanitarian crisis in Yemen, as the Hudis and the Saudis
[00:00:18] exchange large-scale drone and missile attacks, internally
[00:00:21] displacing
[00:00:22] in more than 100 thousand people. The Pentagon says the US space force
[00:00:25] has positioned
[00:00:26] of weapons in Earth's orbit capable of destroying hostile. threats
[00:00:30] and AI leaders gather at summits on both sides
[00:00:33] of the country as President Trump continues to downplay growing concerns about
[00:00:38] of the technology.
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[00:00:49] welcome to World
[00:00:50] in News America. Thank you for joining us tonight. We begin in the Middle East where the
[00:00:54] UN is warning the humanitarian crisis in Yemen is
[00:00:57] deepening.
[00:00:58] of As the Iran back to the
[00:00:59] of rebels. assault the Saudi-backed Yemani government forces. The UN refugee
[00:01:03] agency
[00:01:04] in says that renewed
[00:01:04] of conflict has internally displaced more than 100,000 people.
[00:01:08] Thousands have fled across the red sea
[00:01:10] a to of Jibooti and officials are warning of humanitarian crisis
[00:01:14] there. The conflict shows no signs of slowing with those launching
[00:01:18] large-scale
[00:01:18] in drone in and
[00:01:19] in missile of attacks and Saudi leaders vowing a firm
[00:01:22] response. Saudi Crant Prince Muhammad bin Salman met Egyptian
[00:01:26] President Abdul Fattahi
[00:01:27] of in Cairo on
[00:01:29] a Tuesday. The two. leaders are calling for freedom of navigation in the red sea,
[00:01:33] which the
[00:01:33] in a hoodis have imperiled with their advance. the hoodies
[00:01:37] of have denied threatening international
[00:01:38] of shipping, except for Saudi vessels. well, the UN security council
[00:01:42] called emergency meeting on Yemen to discuss the worsening
[00:01:45] situation. our North America
[00:01:47] of correspondent is covering that for us today. netta, very
[00:01:50] of
[00:01:53] of of good to see you. tell us a a bit more about what we heard at the UN. well, sumi, this
[00:01:57] is the second time the UN security council. has
[00:02:00] me met on Yemen in the last week uh with renewed fighting
[00:02:04] escalating there, now the UN
[00:02:06] of official, of Khalid Kiari uh briefed the council and he told
[00:02:10] the emergency meeting that the flows of commercial shipping through the Red
[00:02:14] Sea appeared to remain
[00:02:16] in unaffected of for of now,
[00:02:19] of of but that the Houti advance had added to market concerns given the disruptions were
[00:02:23] already
[00:02:24] of seeing in the straight
[00:02:24] of of Hormus and the impact there, and there was really kind of
[00:02:28] united
[00:02:29] of calls from the entire council members agreed that freedom of
[00:02:32] navigation must be maintained to prevent uh
[00:02:36] shocks to global supply chains
[00:02:38] of arise in things like food, fuel and medicine
[00:02:41] worldwide. seeing
[00:02:43] of this of really of as a potentially dangerous turning point for red sea
[00:02:47] security, but Yemen and
[00:02:49] of Saudi in Arabia called specifically for more decisive council
[00:02:53] action against the Houties, accusing the group and also
[00:02:57] Iran which backs
[00:02:58] a them of choking... both
[00:03:00] of strates as a tool of pressure, and their allies on the
[00:03:04] council also strongly condemned the Houtis and
[00:03:08] demanded that Iran sees its longstanding support
[00:03:12] for the group. um, and clearly this comes, as you mentioned there
[00:03:15] after
[00:03:17] of you know the Hutis had launched a new wave of attacks on Saudi
[00:03:20] Arabia,
[00:03:22] a of with even uh the crown prince Muhammad bin Salman asking President Donald
[00:03:26] a Trump for the U.S. military support, but so far
[00:03:30] "that is
[00:03:30] a request that has been refused, and the Houties
[00:03:34] claiming of course that Saudi vessels will be the only ones to be
[00:03:37] banned to pressure Riyad to end its blockade on their
[00:03:41] territory, but Sumi will see what happens, because of
[00:03:45] course that is another key international waterway,
[00:03:48] a and a council members will be following very closely if there's any more
[00:03:52] disruptions there, as we've seen in the
[00:03:53] of straight of
[00:03:54] a Hormus, yeah, absolutely. Okay, Netta Tafiq for us in New York, thank you so much for
[00:03:57] that reporting." Armen Yedgaran is the
[00:04:01] Yemen representative for the United Nations Refugee Agency. I spoke to him
[00:04:05] earlier and I asked him what the situation is like on the ground where he is in
[00:04:09] Aden. Speaking from
[00:04:12] Yemen, the situation has
[00:04:15] of a escalated shortly in the last weeks with
[00:04:21] of of multiple fronts and hostilities along Germany western coast and other
[00:04:24] of places like
[00:04:25] of Daiz, southern
[00:04:27] a Roda, Aljov, Mariv. So It is a multifront
[00:04:31] escalation now, different than the previous
[00:04:35] of confrontations, of and this created
[00:04:39] a new way of internal displacement within the
[00:04:42] of country in Yemen and also outside of
[00:04:45] of
[00:04:46] of Yemen. Close to 100 people have been displaced in a week
[00:04:50] time. This is only just from the from
[00:04:53] of the last week until now, the fighting
[00:04:56] has uproted families
[00:04:59] of across Alhodida.
[00:05:05] of in of
[00:05:11] of of of "I would say now more than
[00:05:14] 60% them are women, children, older
[00:05:18] people, and report indicate that
[00:05:22] more people may be preparing to displace internally or
[00:05:26] leave Yemen, if the hostilities continue
[00:05:29] or intensify. So Arma, can I just jump in there and ask you,
[00:05:33] um, what are the conditions like for people who are displaced
[00:05:37] internally or leaving the
[00:05:39] country, internally?
[00:05:43] you know the number is growing every day just from the humanitarian
[00:05:47] perspective, behind each number there is life family, women,
[00:05:51] children or just human being, they are
[00:05:55] living to to those locations in Yemen
[00:05:58] internally, and many just fled a short
[00:06:02] notice without belongings or with few
[00:06:05] belongings, shelter, food, clean water, medical and
[00:06:09] protection needs are the most urgent needs for them.
[00:06:13] because the receiving communities and displacement sites, they are
[00:06:17] over stretched. this is additional pleasure on the
[00:06:21] existing infrastructure and the services available
[00:06:25] in those sites where the people go, and
[00:06:27] then if you if i can go a bit
[00:06:31] more, humanitarian access is also issue
[00:06:34] because it's a major challenge, insecurity,
[00:06:38] damage roads and movement restrictions are affecting
[00:06:41] operations. This is inside the Yemen,
[00:06:45] the crisis has regional impact too, it made
[00:06:49] thousands to flee and seek safety across the
[00:06:53] sea, Babelmanda straight, moving to
[00:06:57] jubouti or through the Arabian sea to Somalia or possibly
[00:07:00] Ethiopia and other countries, only from from
[00:07:04] the last week as of today over
[00:07:07] 2,400 new arrivals have been
[00:07:10] recorded in Djibuti. so so Arm, let ask you this, um, for
[00:07:14] yourself and AID organizations working on the ground, do you get the
[00:07:18] sense that the international community is paying attention to what
[00:07:22] is again a humanitarian crisis? think
[00:07:26] so, because now there is a growing attention on the situation
[00:07:30] in Yemen, both on the confrontation and also on the humanitarian
[00:07:34] situation. Yemen was one the worst
[00:07:37] humanitarian crisis in the world, and this new
[00:07:41] escalation brought a new suffering to yemenis
[00:07:45] and and the displaced people who are in the country and
[00:07:49] I am sure now the humanitarian community and donors, they are
[00:07:52] paying great attention to the
[00:07:55] situation here, there is an interagency
[00:07:58] organized response and HCR part
[00:08:01] of that interagency providing leading the protection,
[00:08:05] shelter and side coordination or the new newly
[00:08:08] displaced families inside themen '
[00:08:12] but it depends also on the challenging security
[00:08:16] environment, if the partners are in place, they can have access to the
[00:08:20] people to the sides and deliver the assistance. okay, i would say
[00:08:24] once again, the community, both international and also inside yemen,
[00:08:28] the humanitarian community, they are preparing,
[00:08:31] they are to respond to happen, the action is already in
[00:08:35] place. well, the flare up in Yemen partially
[00:08:39] stems from the US-Israel war with Iran, and here in the... us the defense
[00:08:43] department's inspector general says the conflict has led to shortfalls in
[00:08:47] munitions and a bottleneck in resupply. President Trump
[00:08:51] and defense secretary Pete Hexath had insisted for months that the US was not facing
[00:08:55] such shortages. Now Republican Congressman Thomas Massi as introduced
[00:08:58] articles of impeachment to remove Secretary Hexeth, allegging he has
[00:09:02] waged the war in Iran illegally. Our
[00:09:06] correspondent Tom Baitman is with us here in the studio for more on this. Tom, let's
[00:09:10] start with that um articles of impeachment introduce. by Thomas Massi seemed to come
[00:09:14] as a surprise, so what's the background to this? Yeah, we didn't know Thomas Massi was going to do
[00:09:18] this today at all, actually there was another attempt to file articles of impeachment by
[00:09:22] the Democrats in the house earlier in the year, you might expect that from the
[00:09:25] administration's opposition, this is from republican Thomas Massi, or be it someone who's
[00:09:29] been a repeated thorn in the side the Trump administration, someone
[00:09:33] who's really now been targeted politically by President Trump, he's no
[00:09:37] longer you know got the opportunity to run again uh for the house as republican
[00:09:40] because of that, and so I think... these articles of impeachment went in and I mean reading
[00:09:44] through them they are absolutely damming,
[00:09:46] I mean he does not mince his words about secretary Hegseth
[00:09:50] here says that uh the secretary of state
[00:09:53] has uh been has
[00:09:57] executed unlawful and unauthorized wars
[00:10:00] meaning by congress or military operations in Iran,
[00:10:04] Venezuela, Yemen and the Caribbean Sea, so four different
[00:10:07] military operations goes to say that he is a threat to the constitution
[00:10:11] the United states because the way this has been done and then gets into some detail on Iran
[00:10:15] and says that in his view because the way he says the
[00:10:19] secretary of defense stripped away these safeguards
[00:10:22] meant to protect civilians in warfare. at the Pentacon that this
[00:10:26] resulted in the strike a school in Minab
[00:10:28] in Iran on the first day the war, of course killed some 120
[00:10:32] children, according to the Iranians and says that in his
[00:10:35] words that secretary Hegseth has affected the murder
[00:10:39] of civilians in Iran uh putting all this together says these are
[00:10:43] grounds for impeachment uh the Pentagon has staunchly defended Secretary
[00:10:47] Hegseth and said that he has a transformative leader and that the
[00:10:50] entire department is unified behind his vision and that they'll continue to put war
[00:10:54] for. is in America first, really interesting, Tom, and I also
[00:10:58] want to ask you about that Inspector General report that we mentioned
[00:11:02] that refers to some these munition shortages, this is something we've heard reporting
[00:11:06] on for for few weeks now, but what more did we find out from this
[00:11:10] report? well, I mean it's a really interesting report because this is an oversight
[00:11:13] body, um, and given the Trump administration has been pretty
[00:11:17] opaque in quite a lot of details about the war, we got a few
[00:11:21] significant thing things here, they confirm that as the end of June, the cost of war.
[00:11:25] 33 billion dollars, we knew it was somewhere around that kind of
[00:11:29] figure, but there was this huge request for a supplemental
[00:11:31] uh funding from congress, at least double that to try
[00:11:35] and pay for it and the ongoing operation, but beyond
[00:11:39] that there were significant uh clar confirmations in
[00:11:43] this particularly about the the way that munitions have been burned up
[00:11:47] um in this war said that
[00:11:49] there was a a strategic inventory shortfall as
[00:11:53] they call it basically just enough weapons left because of this and that
[00:11:57] there's a bottleneck in uh in rebuilding them, but it also painted
[00:12:01] picture really the way in which uh Iranian attacks in the
[00:12:05] Gulf had badly affected US military bases there and
[00:12:09] how actually basing in Europe by the United States have been the
[00:12:12] launchpad for this war as well as from sea
[00:12:16] um but that really kind of cuts against some the descriptions of European governments who had
[00:12:20] really tried to keep their involvement at arms length so that I think was an interesting description in
[00:12:24] this report. Okay, Tom Baitman, thank you for bringing us all of that reporting
[00:12:27] today. Now, President Trump
[00:12:31] continues to downplay growing concerns about artificial intelligence, rejecting
[00:12:35] calls to slow down the development of AI, saying quote, whoever wins AI
[00:12:39] wins, as tech bosses and lawmakers meet to discuss the issue on both sides
[00:12:43] the country. In California, top AI bosses have been attending a
[00:12:47] summit including Open AI Sam Altman, and Anthropics Stario
[00:12:50] Amadai. Mr. Amadai is one of several industry figures warning the dangers
[00:12:54] of unchecked AI, but the boss of Nvidia, Jensen
[00:12:58] Wang, has argued against new laws and regulations, saying it is for
[00:13:02] companies to decide on the safety their products. Well, here in Washington,
[00:13:06] progressive Senator Bernie Sanders and former Donald Trump advisor Steve Bannon,
[00:13:10] appeared at the same rally, calling for restrictions on artificial
[00:13:13] intelligence. Senator Sanders warned the potential danger of AI is,
[00:13:17] quote, probably greater than nuclear
[00:13:19] weapons. Let us be
[00:13:22] clear, artificial intelligence and
[00:13:26] robotics are the most
[00:13:30] transformational technologies in the
[00:13:33] history of humanity, and they will
[00:13:37] impact the lives of every man,
[00:13:40] woman and child in our
[00:13:43] country. They've tried
[00:13:47] to cover up the danger by saying it's
[00:13:51] siap, but using the cyop to try to...
[00:13:55] get off liabilities, what they want is to
[00:13:58] socialize all the risk with the American
[00:14:01] people, including potential bailouts when they
[00:14:05] come, and they want to keep all the
[00:14:08] upside. well, alarm bells have been ringing particularly in the
[00:14:12] capital this week, so we can speak now to Kevin Kylie, an independent
[00:14:16] congressman from California, previously was republican congressman.
[00:14:20] it's great to see you again, thanks for joining us on our program, and
[00:14:24] you introduced and AI safety bill few years ago, there are
[00:14:28] now number of efforts underway in both chambers to drop
[00:14:31] legislation on AI safety, your bill, as I understand is still
[00:14:34] pending, so it raises the question, will Congress actually be
[00:14:38] able to push forward any sort of comprehensive AI
[00:14:42] legislation? well, I hope that Congress can at least do
[00:14:46] something uh that will be helpful and that will raise the salience of
[00:14:49] this issue, which it has been raised here in the last week or so uh
[00:14:53] and bring the entire country uh into the conversation,
[00:14:57] because
[00:14:58] you know this uh the power these models has been growing and growing and growing
[00:15:02] for some time uh, and yet we really haven't had the kind of
[00:15:05] national conversation about how this is going to impact folks
[00:15:09] and basically all facets their lives, I mean
[00:15:12] I not only introduced uh my first year in Congress this AI
[00:15:15] safety act in 2018 when I was member the state legislature in
[00:15:19] California, I introduced a resolution where our legislature
[00:15:23] endorsed what's called the asilamar. for the safe and beneficial
[00:15:26] development of AI, so I've been watching this
[00:15:30] trajectory continue for some time, and now it's finally gotten to the
[00:15:34] point where the changes ahead of us that we're already in the midst. are really
[00:15:38] undeniable uh and it's about time that congress gave it comence for
[00:15:42] intettention and yet President Trump has said no
[00:15:45] regulation is needed and speaker Johnson said today the AI
[00:15:49] labs developing this technology quote they can self-police they can
[00:15:53] self-regulate what do you think of that? well I disagree
[00:15:57] and and the labs themselves have been saying that we need to have some sort of national
[00:16:01] framework here uh we need to have third party verification for
[00:16:04] example so I believe we do need a national frame. I believe that the
[00:16:08] government needs to be uh regulators need to be uh working hand in
[00:16:12] hand uh with the labs in order to do red teaming and order to
[00:16:16] see models before they're released to the public in order to be uh
[00:16:20] alerted to any incidents of misalignment like the hugging face
[00:16:23] incident uh that we had with open AI uh but there's a second
[00:16:27] question top of all of that because if we do in fact you
[00:16:31] know uh see the pace of uh of capability
[00:16:34] growth uh slow down which is what some these are aimed at and let's
[00:16:38] assume for the sake of argument that we even get China on board with that
[00:16:42] through bilateral multilateral talks, which is certainly not something that you can
[00:16:46] take, but let's assume we do, then the question becomes, what are we going to do with the
[00:16:50] extra time that we bought ourselves, and what we need to do is to solve this
[00:16:54] fundamental issue of alignment, of assuring that AI models are
[00:16:57] aligned with human values and interest and under human control, so that's what my
[00:17:01] bill is all about is making investments, mobilizing the
[00:17:04] resources the federal government behind bringing people. just solve this problem of
[00:17:08] alignment, you'll know yourself, there's a lot of skepticism about the role
[00:17:12] that these companies themselves are are playing, um, they have urged
[00:17:16] lawmakers to give them some sort of legal guarantee that their companies won't be violating
[00:17:20] anti-trust law if they band together to pace frontier AI
[00:17:24] technology, and Steve Bannon in that conference said today, the AI labs are trying
[00:17:28] to use crisis to create mote or cartel, do you
[00:17:32] think that's the case? well, if it's strictly
[00:17:36] about safety then
[00:17:37] I don't know why we would want any barriers to stand in the way of that. I think what we
[00:17:41] need is we do need full-fledged uh coordination and
[00:17:44] collaboration among not only the labs in our country, but leaders, leading
[00:17:48] researchers in academia, leading researchers,
[00:17:52] scientists, and folks who work at labs in other countries
[00:17:55] ideally as well, all coming together to share what they've learned, to share
[00:17:59] best practices with safety, to work on solutions to assure the models are
[00:18:03] aligned
[00:18:05] uh with uh with human values as they ascend. capability, this is very hard
[00:18:08] problem, for example, we we might not even know when we've solved it, because the models can
[00:18:12] trick you into thinking that they're aligneduh when they're not, and so of course
[00:18:16] whatever uh legal barriers might stand in the way of this sort of
[00:18:20] collaboration, we should work to make sure that they don't stand in the way of safety, and we
[00:18:23] also need to put lot of resources behind such an effort. i know you said at the start
[00:18:27] of this interview, you hope congress does something, i've seen a whole lot of skepticism
[00:18:31] that that would actually happen, do you think congress really is is up
[00:18:35] to meeting this moment? Well, unfortunately, Congress has
[00:18:39] not really done much of all uh, at all
[00:18:43] uh in recent weeks, months uh or years, and really has
[00:18:46] consumed itself with your typical uh partisan food
[00:18:50] fights, while this generational issue, this epical issue
[00:18:54] uh of transcendent importance to the future of our country and the future of
[00:18:57] humanity has sort of just continued to to rise
[00:19:01] without any real dialogue on the part of Congress around it, so we
[00:19:05] have seen this last week that suddenly... "the issue has sprung into
[00:19:09] uh,
[00:19:09] you know, public view and is has penetrated the halls of congress in a real way, for
[00:19:13] whatever reason why that's happened now, I mean, I think that part of it is just that even the folks
[00:19:17] at the labs are seeing capabilities increase faster than they
[00:19:20] expected, so we need to channel this into something constructive, the the
[00:19:24] the unfortunate thing is that we're talking about congress here uh, which
[00:19:28] unfortunately hasn't worked very well when it comes to just kind the basics of
[00:19:32] keeping the government open and so forth, and so but if
[00:19:34] there was ever moment to rise to the occasion, this is..." Okay,
[00:19:38] congressman Kevin Kyley, interesting discussion, as always, thank you so much for joining
[00:19:42] us, you bet, thanks for having me. Now, also here
[00:19:46] in Washington, President Trump attacked the U.S. Supreme Court over its decision
[00:19:50] to block his mail and ballot plan for November's mid-term elections, calling
[00:19:54] the justicces ruling highly political. The court on Monday upheld
[00:19:58] an order that temporarily blocks the US Postal service from moving forward with
[00:20:01] new requirements for postal ballots. The ruling means that US states
[00:20:05] can continue using their existing... systems for the elections in just seven
[00:20:09] weeks time. President Trump posted on his truth social
[00:20:13] platform, Republicans just got another bad decision from the
[00:20:17] US Supreme Court. He accused the court's judges of being petrified of what he
[00:20:20] called craised and depraved democrats. He also
[00:20:24] criticized the three justices he appointed saying these are not the people I interviewed
[00:20:28] to serve on the United States Supreme Court. A president Trump signed the
[00:20:32] executive order to control Milan voting in March, insisting contrarited
[00:20:35] evidence that postal.
[00:20:50] space weapons active earth's orbit move it says is necessary
[00:20:53] safeguard against enemy action, that's coming up around the world and across the
[00:20:57] UK. this is BBC
[00:20:58] News.
[00:22:07] You're with BBC News, here in the US, the Pentagon has confirmed for the first
[00:22:11] time that it deployed a space weapon into earth's orbit.
[00:22:15] Air force secretary Troy Mike announced Monday that the U.S. Space Force now
[00:22:19] operates with He called on-orbit space control
[00:22:22] weapons, capable of destroying hostile threats. The Pentagon is
[00:22:26] not disclosed details about the technology, and it's unclear when the
[00:22:30] weapons were sent into space. President Trump has hailed the US space
[00:22:34] force as a significant step to counter growing space threats from China
[00:22:38] and Russia, amid concerns that those two countries are testing new
[00:22:41] offensive technology. Russia responded to the latest US announcement by
[00:22:45] saying outer space should be free from any weapons, while China warned
[00:22:49] against turning... face into a battlefield. Our defense correspondent
[00:22:53] Jonathan Beal has more. No notice launch, Iran.
[00:22:57] The US space force is already helping America fight its wars on
[00:23:01] the ground. Here, detecting the launch of ballistic
[00:23:04] missiles. This is the wolfden, but it's also preparing
[00:23:08] for a potential conflict in space. We are already
[00:23:11] sparring in the cyber domain in the space domain, home
[00:23:15] to thousands of active
[00:23:16] satellites. Now. For the first time
[00:23:20] the US has confirmed it's deployed a weapon in
[00:23:23] space. The US Air Force secretary said it wanted to maintain
[00:23:27] its dominance, so we've had to take steps to make
[00:23:31] sure that when we're threatened, we can take care of
[00:23:34] that. That's prompted both Russia and China
[00:23:38] to condemn the move, and warn of an arms race
[00:23:42] in space. America has already accused them
[00:23:46] of doing the same. The reality is, there's already...
[00:23:50] "the start of an arms race in space. The US has accused both
[00:23:54] China and Russia of developing satellites that can
[00:23:57] jam the signals of other satellites or listen in,
[00:24:01] or deploying lasers to blind them, even fitting
[00:24:05] grappling arms to try to maneuver other satellites out of
[00:24:09] orbit. The US has also accused both China and Russia
[00:24:12] at developing weapons that can be fired into
[00:24:16] space or from space to destroy satellites. Three?" "
[00:24:20] two, we have ignition, but for now the US
[00:24:24] isn't saying what weapon it's launched into
[00:24:27] orbit. what the US is talking about are probably
[00:24:31] things like electronic warfare or jamming abilities or
[00:24:34] spoofing abilities, possibly things like what we called
[00:24:38] co-orbital weapons, which you have another satellite that's orbiting
[00:24:41] alongside another another satellite and could bang into it. it's not
[00:24:45] just the military that increasingly relies on space,
[00:24:49] we all do... on satellites for everyday life, from
[00:24:53] social media to phone calls and finding our way
[00:24:56] about. it's not yet star
[00:24:59] wars, but an arms race in space should concern
[00:25:03] us all. jonathan beal, bbc
[00:25:05] news. okay, still to come on the
[00:25:09] program, a UK inquiry into the crimes of lucy ledby
[00:25:13] finds that some the babies murdered by the nurse could have been
[00:25:16] saved if the hospital where she worked had acted sooner. We'll have
[00:25:20] more on that, plus we'll also be looking as Russia has launched another wave of attacks on
[00:25:24] Ukraine, despite the fact that President Trump has said that both
[00:25:27] sides have agreed to not hit each other's energy infrastructure, we'll be
[00:25:31] taking a special look at the impact on Ukraine's postal
[00:25:35] services, plus another discussion about artificial intelligence, we'll be
[00:25:39] talking about education and artificial intelligence uh with
[00:25:42] guest and our political panel, so all of those stories coming right up on world news America,
[00:25:46] of course all of our headlines are on our website as always bbc.com, slash
[00:25:50] news much more on AI there, as you can see on our live page, so stay with us, we're back
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[00:25:54] minutes.
[00:26:07] Hello, sea surface temperatures in the Mediterranean are well above
[00:26:10] average, about five degrees above normal for the time of year in places close to
[00:26:14] 30 celsius and in southern parts the Mediterranean we're seeing those warmer seas
[00:26:18] fuel some stormy conditions that are heading towards parts of southern Greece at the
[00:26:22] moment, meanwile further northwest low pressure moving in from the Atlantic so a
[00:26:26] fresher spell of weather across the United Kingdom into France as well real drop in the temperature
[00:26:30] for Paris on Wednesday compared to recent. some scattered heavy showers across
[00:26:34] parts of Turkey and down towards Greece, particularly Creat, seeing
[00:26:38] that wet weather in the central Mediterranean. It's a dryer picture though across
[00:26:42] Sicily and Malta after the recent heavy rain and across to Spain and Portugal,
[00:26:46] not as hot as it has been, 29 there for Madrid, some heavy showers across the
[00:26:50] pyranees and then showers stretching through the alps across parts of Germany
[00:26:53] up towards Finland, it's looking fairly fresh here for Scandinavia and
[00:26:57] unsettled as well with more showers arriving on Thursday.
[00:27:01] Meanwhile, it is going to... we largely dry across Portugal and central parts of
[00:27:05] spin where we'll also see the temperatures on the rise once again into the weekend and
[00:27:09] into next week as well, but heavy rain pushing across parts of northern Italy
[00:27:13] into Croatia through the course of Thursday. For cities
[00:27:16] in the west of Europe, actually lots of dry weather on the cards over the next few days perhaps an
[00:27:20] isolated shower for London, for Rome as well, but temperatures will be picking up after
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[00:30:16] Welcome back to World News America. Let's turn now to the UK where the
[00:30:20] lives of some babies at the countess of Chester Hospital could have
[00:30:24] been saved if action had been taken earlier by staff. That
[00:30:28] is the conclusion at the end of inquiry into how the nurse, Lucy
[00:30:31] Lutby. was able to murder seven babies and attempt to murder
[00:30:35] murder seven others. the chair the inquiry, lady justice Thurlwall
[00:30:39] said there had been a complete failure to protect babies in the hospital's neonatal
[00:30:43] unit between 2015 and 2016. she also said the
[00:30:47] parents of Lucy let these victims were kept in the dark and were not aware
[00:30:51] of concerns until they were contacted by the police after the
[00:30:55] 36-year-old was arrested in 2018. Judith Morritz
[00:30:58] reports: no babies were
[00:31:02] murdered free. In the Lucyletby case, there
[00:31:06] are two universes: there's that of her supporters, convinced of her
[00:31:09] innocence, and that the courts and the Thillwall inquiry where
[00:31:13] her guilt is settled. 'It was established to examine
[00:31:17] what those around letbe did as babies kept dying and she
[00:31:21] fell under suspicion and it's found that if the hospital had
[00:31:25] acted as it should have done, babies could have been
[00:31:28] saved. There was complete failure at all levels
[00:31:32] to invoke safeguarding procedures any
[00:31:35] point. Looking for clinical or other explanations for
[00:31:39] deaths and collapses was not wrong, but once there was
[00:31:43] suspicion that Letby may be causing'.
[00:31:45] deliberately, safeguarding steps should have been
[00:31:49] taken. no one seems
[00:31:51] to have thought that safegarding action is required when a member of staff is
[00:31:55] suspected of causing deliberate harm.
[00:31:59] it isn't necessary to be sure suspicion is
[00:32:03] enough. the offenses of murder and attempted murder have been
[00:32:05] identified and you have been identified as these a
[00:32:09] offenses.by
[00:32:09] suspec has been convicted of murdering seven babies
[00:32:13] and attempting to murder a further. in 2015 and
[00:32:16] 2016, is you going to have to go to
[00:32:18] the police station to be questioned about these allegations? today's report doesn't specify
[00:32:22] how many of those attacks could have been prevented, but lays out
[00:32:25] timeline of missed opportunities. in June
[00:32:29] 2015, three babies died in quick succession, but it wasn't
[00:32:33] viewed as an unusual cluster of deaths. that august,
[00:32:36] fourth baby died, and consultants disregarded a baby's blood test which
[00:32:40] suggested insulin poisoning. after the fifth baby death
[00:32:44] in October 2015, Letby was kept on the
[00:32:48] ward, doctor failed to report his suspicions about her
[00:32:51] in relation to one baby in February 2016, and even
[00:32:55] after consultants met managers in May that year, safeguarding rules weren't
[00:32:59] followed, two more babies would go to die. The
[00:33:03] reports scaving about the hospital's former executives, it
[00:33:07] finds that director of nursing Allison Kelly in the middle here, pitted nurses
[00:33:11] against doctors with misguided determination to protect Letby.
[00:33:15] "the former medical director, Ian Harvey is said to have tried to control the
[00:33:18] narrative, writing documents himself to support the nurse, and
[00:33:22] the then CEO Tony Chambers is described as dictatorial,
[00:33:26] running an exercise in spin, stalling the police investigation
[00:33:30] for nearly year. This is behavior by NHS
[00:33:34] managers that should never have been allowed to happen and a complete
[00:33:38] disregard for all the systems that would have protected these
[00:33:42] children, safeguarding, H are,
[00:33:45] whistleblowing, freedom to speak out, escalation of
[00:33:49] concerns, all of it, completely treated like it
[00:33:53] didn't matter. pretty grim reading, sadly. Dr.
[00:33:57] John Gibbs is one the senior doctors who battled to raise
[00:34:00] concerns about Lucy Letby with hospital managers, but he says he
[00:34:04] also accepts that the consultants bear collective responsibility for
[00:34:08] some failings.
[00:34:09] Do you look back and think, I wish I'd done more, we'd done
[00:34:13] more? Yes. "I wish we consultants had
[00:34:17] been brave enough to follow our suspicions and escalate
[00:34:21] things to the police earlier, and when I say we
[00:34:24] consultants, um, I am responsible as well,
[00:34:27] and um, if my other consultant colleagues didn't go to the
[00:34:31] police, I should have gone to the police. What we did,
[00:34:35] particularly when we're having a lot of resistance dealing with the managers, what we
[00:34:39] did, which helped us enormously, is that we all stuck
[00:34:42] together. The countess of Chester Hospital..." is now under new
[00:34:46] management, responding to the Philwell report, its current CEO
[00:34:49] said will approach its recommendations with openness and the firm commitment to
[00:34:53] build on the progress we've already made in improving our hospital's governance,
[00:34:57] safety and culture since that time. We acknowledge however that there's more to
[00:35:01] be done. Our priority is to ensure that we address the Tholwall report's
[00:35:05] recommendations as swiftly as possible. The report makes
[00:35:09] 17 recommendations for the NHS in England, including tighter
[00:35:13] controls access to insulin, Compulsory rules on safeguarding
[00:35:17] and the introduction of cameras monitoring all cots and incubators on
[00:35:20] neonatal units, which wasn't available at the counters of Chester
[00:35:23] Hospital. I have asked my officials to urgently develop plans
[00:35:27] for cot cams which can also help parents feel better
[00:35:31] connected to their babies when
[00:35:32] they aren't able to be with them in person. As well as aiming her
[00:35:36] fire at the hospital and recommending change, lady justice Thurwall had
[00:35:40] words about how the baby's families were dealt with. The anger
[00:35:44] some pair. feel at the way they were treated by the countess was
[00:35:47] palpable, they were kept in the dark for years about what was
[00:35:51] happening, about the fact that there were concerns that their babies may have been
[00:35:55] deliberately harmed, the lack of consideration shown to the
[00:35:59] parents at that time was reprehensible. the
[00:36:03] baby's parents have welcomed Thurwall's findings, but they say the
[00:36:07] real test of this inquiry and its report will be whether it
[00:36:10] paves the way for real change across the
[00:36:13] NHS. Russia
[00:36:17] intensified its attacks on Ukraine on Tuesday, despite
[00:36:20] President Trump claiming
[00:36:22] the two countries had agreed to pause strikes on each other's energy
[00:36:25] facilities. Russia launched a... wave of attacks on petrol stations,
[00:36:29] trains and ports in Ukraine. Ukraine's postal services,
[00:36:33] which provide lifeline to millions of people left isolated by the war
[00:36:37] were also targeted. As James Landell reports.
[00:36:41] In Kieve, filling up your car just got dangerous. Petrol
[00:36:45] stations now Russia's target of choice. Several were hit
[00:36:49] overnight a wave of drone attacks that continued into the
[00:36:52] day. Near the border with Poland, another
[00:36:56] train was struck. part of Russia's escalating assault on
[00:36:59] Ukrainian infrastructure. One big
[00:37:03] target is Ukraine's postal service. Rushes destroyed
[00:37:07] hundreds of vans and branches, costing the lives of more than 50
[00:37:11] postal workers. Every day their boss has to
[00:37:14] decide where to send them safely. If it's too dangerous to go
[00:37:18] today, we won't go today, we'll go tomorrow or we'll go somewhere
[00:37:22] else. This is all that's left of Catarina's post
[00:37:25] office. Widowed by the war, she... rebuilt her life in this
[00:37:28] building until march when a russian drone struck
[00:37:32] targeting soldiers working
[00:37:34] nearby, from here for two
[00:37:37] years she served as the village post
[00:37:40] mistress, it's a great picture for me
[00:37:43] to los this room, this was your life, this is your
[00:37:47] work, yeah, yeah, i
[00:37:51] didn't visit this room, it's this
[00:37:55] first time. Today, Catarina's
[00:37:59] new office is this van, one of thousands of mobile branches
[00:38:03] providing vital services to people on the margins of
[00:38:06] society, and they don't just deliver parcels,
[00:38:10] most here in this village, are collecting pensions or
[00:38:13] paying
[00:38:14] bills.
[00:38:25] They also deliver medicines and food. and something more
[00:38:29] intangible, it's very
[00:38:32] important, it's one the few joys the month,
[00:38:34] you come out, have a chat with people, collect your pension and go
[00:38:38] home. Ukraine is vast rural country made
[00:38:42] up of thousands of remote villages just like this, and the postal
[00:38:46] service is part the glue that holds it all
[00:38:48] together, and for these people, not too far from the front line,
[00:38:52] this van can be their last link to the Ukrainian
[00:38:56] state. "what do you think people here think about
[00:38:59] you? they proud of
[00:39:03] me, they love
[00:39:05] me,
[00:39:09] are they need? james lando, bbc news,
[00:39:12] newsaparigia, still to come
[00:39:16] on world news america, president trump has dismissed calls by tech
[00:39:20] leaders for AI guard rail, so why is the president so opposed to
[00:39:23] regulating artificial intelligence? we'll take closer look around
[00:39:27] the world and..." across the UK. This is BBC
[00:39:29] News.
[00:40:38] You're watching BBC News. Now we've been talking lot this week about AI
[00:40:42] controls and regulation with fears that the industry is advancing
[00:40:46] a dangerous pace. In some of his latest comments on the
[00:40:49] concerns raised by AI tech leaders, President Trump has dismissed
[00:40:53] those fears about AI harming humanity as hoax, saying there's no need for. more
[00:40:57] guard rails our BBC North America editor Sarah Smith
[00:41:00] reports. Why is Donald Trump refusing to
[00:41:04] regulate AI? He is insisting that the warnings from some of
[00:41:08] America's biggest companies about the dangers the technology are nothing but
[00:41:11] a hulks. Trumpse is AI as race with China. We don't
[00:41:15] want to restrict them, we're all of sudden we come in second to China. He often says
[00:41:19] whoever wins AI wins. And the second reason is
[00:41:23] economic. The AI boom has seen hundreds of billions.
[00:41:27] of dollars invested in the American stock market and it's reached record
[00:41:31] highs. Donald Trump doesn't want to do anything to affect that before the
[00:41:35] mid-term elections in November. He's said that he thinks that
[00:41:38] AI will be bigger. than oil, gold, diamonds or even the
[00:41:42] internet as a driver of economic growth, and he doesn't want to
[00:41:46] kill the golden goose as he put it. the thing is, he is completely
[00:41:50] odds with both the AI companies and the American voting
[00:41:53] public. it's a warning sign that we need to slow down. and open
[00:41:57] ais, sam altman and elon musk back that idea.
[00:42:01] two-thirds of adults say they are more worried about the dangers of
[00:42:05] AI than they are excited about the opportunities, and that was
[00:42:08] even before the... AI firms themselves started warning that they could
[00:42:12] destroy humanity, Sarah Smith reporting for us there,
[00:42:16] we're going to talk more about how our approach to AI is changing now with
[00:42:20] Alex Katran, CEO the AI education project known as
[00:42:24] AI EDU. Alex, thanks for joining us. First of all, what
[00:42:28] do you think the president lawers are getting right and getting
[00:42:32] wrong about AI right now? Yeah, look, I mean, I think it
[00:42:35] is, I'm glad that people are focused on the safety
[00:42:39] issue. um, I'm not going to weigh in, there's like plenty of, there's been a lot of voices today
[00:42:43] like weighing as a humble non-profit leader, um, I don't how much
[00:42:47] I have to add to that, but what I will say is um,
[00:42:51] there's
[00:42:51] been a lot of focus on protecting Americans today, and I
[00:42:55] think we are not spending enough time thinking about addition to protecting
[00:42:59] them from AI, how do we make sure people are prepared, because you can ban AI, we've
[00:43:03] seen this in school districts, that are doing pauses,
[00:43:07] um, but pausing on AI, slowing things. down isn't answer to this
[00:43:11] question of how do you prepare people
[00:43:12] and I think you know ultimately Americans we're seeing this in poll we're seeing this in
[00:43:16] in primaries and certainly I think it will come to pass in the midterms
[00:43:20] voters are
[00:43:21] you know genuinely concerned about what is where is my place in this
[00:43:25] and I think that sometimes it's almost hard to kind of like you
[00:43:28] know piece apart like all these sort of like different anxieties but at the end the day I think people are concerned
[00:43:32] about
[00:43:33] you know they feel like things are moving away um and they don't necessarily
[00:43:36] see and they're not being told like like how are you really?
[00:43:40] to be a part of that future, so from your perspective at AIEDU, how do you
[00:43:44] answer that question people have of where am I and all of this? especially if you look at
[00:43:47] kids in schools as you said, yes,
[00:43:50] I mean a we work in all 50 states, we we've reached
[00:43:54] two million kids, we're also one the first organizations to be doing this work back in like
[00:43:57] 2019, so we do this for seven years, which makes it like the longest organization to be
[00:44:01] focused on AI readiness, and you this question of how do you prepare kids for the
[00:44:05] future, I think a lot of people assume that it's just like, oh kids need to have
[00:44:09] chance to just use AI so this question of like how do we give kids access or give schools
[00:44:13] access to AI um our theory is that actually this
[00:44:17] is going
[00:44:17] to come down to what you the human advantage um how do we actually
[00:44:20] build the intangible human skills that the AI can't
[00:44:24] do um it's almost like AI is a multiplier you have to focus on
[00:44:28] what the the base factor is that you're multiplying and so you think
[00:44:31] in almost every domain it's really this this there's a question of like
[00:44:35] there's just lot of training and learning that has to be done this is basically going to be the
[00:44:39] biggest if you think about like AI transformation, broadly speaking, including education, this is the
[00:44:43] biggest change management uh project in the history of
[00:44:46] civilization. um, every organization in the country in the world is
[00:44:50] going to have to retool itself and in some cases dramatically transform, and the
[00:44:54] way you do change management, you talk to the people at McKenzie and you know at these big
[00:44:58] consulting firms, it is people endeavor, it's about investing in human capital,
[00:45:01] it is about training, and um, and I just don't see that happen, that that being
[00:45:05] prominent enough in the conversation that I'm seeing today. so what does that look like?
[00:45:10] retooling, retraining, if you talk about schools in particular, you you
[00:45:13] mentioned the the multiplier of AI and what you're teaching is that
[00:45:17] baseline, so what does that baseline then look like for kids? yeah, so you think about like, well,
[00:45:21] how do we deal with kids using AI to cheat, how do we make sure that kids
[00:45:25] also have durable skills so that they can succeed, and you know, which is what you know
[00:45:28] companies are asking for, and the answer I think in all cases is you have to have a trained
[00:45:32] educator in the room, um, if teacher doesn't understand AI, it's going to
[00:45:36] be very hard for her to design an assignment that is resistant to AI.
[00:45:40] um and we see lots of schools that have policies uh and I think 6% of
[00:45:44] teachers reported actually really understanding what those policies are and if you look what other
[00:45:48] countries are doing and
[00:45:48] I think this is one thing that you know I look at what the like the president's remarks and he's talking about the
[00:45:52] competition with China you know what I would say is
[00:45:55] you know we also should be concerned about the fact that China is way further ahead than the
[00:45:59] US on their transformation of education they have in 2025
[00:46:03] they laid out a comprehensive plan to basically retool education from
[00:46:07] preek to elementary school to to high school. you know
[00:46:10] aligning what students are learning to the job market um mandatory training for
[00:46:14] teachers, they actually also like put some you know specific uh blocks in and
[00:46:18] saying no uh AI assessments until 2030
[00:46:21] um we need that level
[00:46:24] and i don't agree with lot the stuff that china is doing they do lot of surveillance like
[00:46:27] you know tracking kids facial expressions, i don't think that is what we want here in the US
[00:46:31] um but there's a white space right now and if we don't fill it
[00:46:34] then i think other countries will and so that's why it's so important okay alex
[00:46:37] katran interesting conversation thank you so much for joining
[00:46:40] in the studio tonight, well we're going to talk about
[00:46:44] that and all the AI news with our panel tonight, offira
[00:46:47] haskel, a director of external affairs at the Democratic Governor's Association and
[00:46:51] Stephen Kent. conservative columnist, it is great to see you
[00:46:55] both. um, Stephen, I will start with you on this one, there is, if you
[00:46:59] look at polling, and we were just having the call conversation here with Alex about some the
[00:47:03] skepticism in the public towards artificial intelligence, and we are just
[00:47:07] seeing that amplified this week. are law makers
[00:47:10] understanding that, do you think? I do think that lawmakers are
[00:47:14] understanding it. you see Congress being very responsive generally
[00:47:18] to the fears that Americans have about artificial intelligence. Right
[00:47:22] now, at least 52% of Americans, according to pu
[00:47:26] are more nervous than they are excited about the AI
[00:47:29] future, but I'm going to be honest here and say what Donald Trump is
[00:47:33] doing is leading. This is an example of a
[00:47:37] politician who is not running for re-election again, and that gives a
[00:47:40] person a little bit of political courage to be out front on
[00:47:44] something that most people are not excited about. He
[00:47:48] sees a huge opportunity for America to lead in the 21st
[00:47:51] century. "and he's willing to say the unpopular thing, which
[00:47:55] is we need to be moving fast on AI so that we
[00:47:59] can secure our own future. technology is part of that. it's kind of
[00:48:03] interesting actually to see another area in which
[00:48:06] you know conservatives, republicans generally are a
[00:48:10] uh more optimistic posture than democrats, the people who
[00:48:14] supposedly are more open to change and flexibility where
[00:48:17] conservatives are always wanting to keep things the way they are. um, you have here
[00:48:21] republican..." party who is by and large looking ahead with
[00:48:25] optimism and trying to make sure that we land on our feet well with this new
[00:48:28] tech. hard to be optimistic when
[00:48:30] you hear some the warnings from the AI industry, but um Opera, I'll ask you what
[00:48:34] you make of that as well and what even have to say about how the parties are approaching
[00:48:37] this. well, I think President Trump has shown pattern of
[00:48:41] dismissing the concerns the American people as a hoax, whether that is on
[00:48:45] affordability, now AI, and I think right now, this is
[00:48:49] moment where folks are looking for critical leadership in President Trump's...
[00:48:52] teams um content to put his head in the stand instead of finding solutions, and
[00:48:56] I think that's why there's an opening with less than 50 days until these critical
[00:49:00] mid-terms for for democrats
[00:49:01] I think to show leadership on on this issue and to show that they're really
[00:49:05] hearing hearing voters, and I think we're seeing examples of in this
[00:49:09] leadership vacuum at the federal level, leaders in the states like Governor
[00:49:13] Pritzker who just signed the strongest AI safety legislation in the
[00:49:17] country last week, and so I think there's a really clear contrast here on
[00:49:21] display ahead of. critical mid-term elections of who's actually listening to the concerns
[00:49:25] of voters. I just want to follow up on that really quickly offera. um, what even
[00:49:29] said is that President Trump is being a leader, because what needs to be done is for
[00:49:33] the US to win this race. What do you think of that
[00:49:36] argument? Well, I think we should listen to the concerns of both the industry
[00:49:40] and the American people. They're asking for there to be a thoughtful
[00:49:44] leadership on this issue, for there to be some sort of guidance or regulation and
[00:49:48] detered a future vision for the country on this complex issue and president.
[00:49:52] and simply not meeting the moment on any of that. okay, Stephen, I'll I'll put that back to
[00:49:56] you. um, does it help if if the US leads or wins
[00:50:00] if it's a race to the bottom? the only thing to fear is fear
[00:50:04] itself. we need leaders at the top who actually set a
[00:50:08] trajectory forward and give people a sense of encouragement and
[00:50:12] optimism about the best possible outcomes. we are not Europe.
[00:50:15] in Europe, and in the UK, frankly, they lead by the precautionary
[00:50:19] principle, and it is why when it comes to technology innovation.
[00:50:22] entrepreneurship, these places are in the stone age compared to the United
[00:50:26] States and in China. This is what the US does very well, and
[00:50:30] it does make people uncomfortable and nervous when we come up to
[00:50:34] these huge technological fault lines where things are going to change very
[00:50:38] fast. But what's so interesting about Donald Trump as
[00:50:41] republican, as a leader is he came to to
[00:50:44] office promising to return the 20th century,
[00:50:48] you know, like
[00:50:50] coal mining, and he was going to reinvigorate industry. real towns in the
[00:50:53] midwest, and he has actually been able to see reality, and
[00:50:57] this is something that democrats won't say, he is sort of coming to
[00:51:00] grips with the fact that you can't do that, but you can step forward in the
[00:51:04] future, you can produce chips, you can resure some these
[00:51:08] companies that provide these technologies, you can build data centers and
[00:51:11] make tradesman and electricians, some the most wealthy people
[00:51:15] uh in northern Virginia, particularly where I live, who are doing
[00:51:19] this kind of work, and you can actually make a... new
[00:51:22] industry for the United States that's going to secure its future. China
[00:51:26] has it easy, they're a dictatorship. They're going to set all sorts of
[00:51:30] different guidelines and strategic initiatives at the national level
[00:51:34] that require no debate because it is centralized. We have it very
[00:51:38] hard. It's a very hard thing for us to do, but
[00:51:42] Donald Trump is providing some direction for us to do that. Yeah, I... I guess the
[00:51:46] point is, and offer has made this point as well, is that industry leaders
[00:51:50] themselves are saying this is a dangerous technology.
[00:52:05] but Opera, what I want to ask you is, do you think
[00:52:08] Democrats are indeed going to be seen as a party
[00:52:12] then that doesn't embrace progress, as as Stephen has hinted at
[00:52:16] there, if they say we are against data centers and we want to reign in
[00:52:20] AI
[00:52:20] and Bernie Sanders, he's
[00:52:21] an independent but still saying um he wants a ban on all super
[00:52:24] intelligence. Well, I think
[00:52:26] what democrats are are proving every single day is that there's
[00:52:30] innovation to be made in the country, and I think we're seeing lot of chaos and dysfunction
[00:52:34] coming
[00:52:34] out of. washington, but in the states led by democratic governor specifically, we're
[00:52:38] seeing that there is an openness to innovation, creation, job creation in
[00:52:42] particular, I know, Stephen talked about bringing jobs back to the
[00:52:45] United States, but it's really democratic governors, I think who are showing up the president on that
[00:52:49] front, and so I think democrats really do have lane open to them,
[00:52:53] especially again with the contrast with less than 50 days to the midterms of
[00:52:57] Republican controlled Washington that's absolutely not delivering anything for the
[00:53:01] American people on the most pressing issues that they care about, whether that is affordability.
[00:53:05] or AI, but fear, congress is not likely to get a
[00:53:09] whole lot done in the the remaining time before they go home to their districts
[00:53:13] to uh campaign ahead the midterm, so in that
[00:53:16] sense, what do you think the democrat's messaging should be?
[00:53:20] well, today's national voter registration day, and I do think that Democrats are
[00:53:24] a great position heading into these midterms and I think the message is that
[00:53:27] Republicans with full trust and control of Washington have done absolutely nothing to make
[00:53:31] your life better, and I think Democrats uh in turn ar ready to to hit
[00:53:35] the ground running and deliver deliver change, especially again a leadership vacuum
[00:53:39] left by Trump on this issue. So Stephen, we just have about 30 seconds left,
[00:53:43] but um, how do you think Republicans should be messaging on AI with the fact
[00:53:47] that the polling shows people don't feel very good about it at the moment?
[00:53:51] You just have to keep hammering home the best possible
[00:53:54] outcomes. You can sit around all day and talk about the things that can
[00:53:58] go wrong and there is incentive for many tech companies to do
[00:54:02] that, Anthropic is trying to secure. their position in the future
[00:54:06] by in ensuring regulatory capture, republicans
[00:54:10] need to be making that point that you cannot necessarily trust
[00:54:14] these tech companies to act altruistically, they have motive
[00:54:18] too in all their dumerism, and we're going to try to point people a better
[00:54:22] direction, a more optimistic direction about the future. yeah, and that is
[00:54:25] point I have seen some Republicans making already, Stephen, it to what you just
[00:54:29] said, so we have unfortunately run out of time, but I
[00:54:32] have a feeling we'll be discussing this issue much more in the coming... weeks, I'm Stephen Ofera. Thank
[00:54:36] you so much for joining us tonight. My
[00:54:38] pleasure. Let's get a quick look
[00:54:42] at some other headlines now from across the globe. All the support
[00:54:46] acts for Ed Sheiren's US tour pulled out the performances in
[00:54:49] solidarity with the rapper Macalmore after he was barred from
[00:54:53] upcoming performances for making pro-Palestinian statements on stage. Sheiron
[00:54:57] says it wasn't his decision to remove Macklemore from his tour lineup.
[00:55:01] In a statement, the British singer blamed the tour promoters. Robert Kraft, the billion.
[00:55:05] owner the Jullette Stadium in Massachusetts has admitted to lobbying
[00:55:09] other venue managers to boycott the tour if Maccomore was not
[00:55:12] removed. Welsh actor Matthew Reisse has
[00:55:15] made history at the ME Television Awards by winning two lead
[00:55:19] actor
[00:55:20] car categories in the same year. He won for his roles in Widow's Bay
[00:55:24] and the Beast in Me. Widows Bay won record
[00:55:27] 14 awards. All right, don't forget
[00:55:31] you can always get the very latest on our website BBC.com. slash
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[00:55:39] come into us, plus much more on the who these advance uh in the
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[00:55:50] Washington, thank you for watching, my colleague Helena Humpfrey will have an update on your headlines in few
[00:55:54] minutes, stay with
[00:55:55] us.
[00:56:11] Hello, let's take a look at the weather around the world, and first off to North America where
[00:56:15] there's a real contrast in temperature, we've still got some very warm air holding place
[00:56:19] across the southern plains from Texas, Arkansas, all the way towards the
[00:56:23] Mid-Atlantic, cooler conditions to the north of that and where those air masses
[00:56:27] meet, we've got some stormy weather pushing across parts the northern
[00:56:30] plains, also some heavy downpours here around the desert, southwesties a monsoon.
[00:56:35] showers pushing in here, for Mexico, one or two heavier showers
[00:56:39] around the bay of Campeche, and we've also got some heavier rain pushing in for Costa Rica, Panama,
[00:56:42] into Nicaragua as well, we could see some heavier downpores around the
[00:56:46] Lesser Antelees as well, heading across South America now
[00:56:50] and there's still some heavy rain across the far north of Peru up towards Colombia as
[00:56:54] well, dryer conditions around the Amazon Basin, this frontal system just starting to
[00:56:57] clear from the southeaster Brazil, temperatures will eventually rise for southern
[00:57:01] Brazil into Argentina over the next few days, but settle to the
[00:57:05] far south. now across Europe and we're seeing drop in temperature, it's been very
[00:57:09] hot across France, Spain as well, a frontal system is introducing some
[00:57:13] cooler, fresher air and some heavy downpors affecting parts the alpine
[00:57:17] region. in Switzerland up through Germany into Finland as well, still
[00:57:21] pretty warm to the south of that and some stormy conditions for southern parts of Greece,
[00:57:25] we've got low pressure in the Mediterranean here, that may affect some northern coast of
[00:57:28] Africa, around Libya, Egypt as well, heavy showers around the Gulf of Guine, some
[00:57:32] downpours likely here and it's going to turn increasingly wet in Cape Town
[00:57:36] after Wednesday, 17 degrees on Wednesday, wet in windy weather then pushing
[00:57:40] eastwards across south Africa, lots of dry settled weather for much the
[00:57:44] Middle East at the moment, few showers down towards Yemen, one of... two up
[00:57:47] towards the Caspian Sea, but dry and hot and sunny in between
[00:57:51] across India now and some heavy monsoonal showers building
[00:57:55] across northern and northeastern parts the country heading across to Bangladesh, still one or
[00:57:59] two sharp showers around Rajasthan, Gujarat as well, the bulk the
[00:58:03] heavy rain though further south for the Maldives and Sri Lanka, more heavy
[00:58:07] rain though working across Japan, it's been very wet more
[00:58:09] of that to come, could be some flooding on Wednesday and some heavy showers for the Philippines across to
[00:58:13] Vietnam as well, quieter conditions further south still very...
[00:58:17] much of java into Sulawazi as well and across
[00:58:21] Australia, much the country looking dry, a big area of high pressure in
[00:58:24] charge, it's a cooler spell of weather towards the southeast, 13 in
[00:58:28] Melbourne, but it will be turning warmer here in the southeast, cooler
[00:58:32] towards western Australia through the rest the week, and then rain will push northwards
[00:58:36] across both islands of New Zealand. Bye for
[00:58:38] now, r is kind of work
[00:58:42] without fear, because it's fun for me, it's like if I fail, it's no big
[00:58:46] deal, if something don't. work out, I'm not afraid of of failure, because to me I
[00:58:50] never feel like loser. She could act, she could sing, she could write songs, I mean
[00:58:53] she was the complete package. To millions across the globe, Dolly
[00:58:57] Parton was a true one off, lady who,
[00:59:01] I truly believe was the most beloved human being
[00:59:05] in the world. Fans from Nashville,
[00:59:09] Dolly, we love you, to Newcastle have been celebrating the star's
[00:59:13] life. God bless her, it feels a little bit like when the queen
[00:59:16] died. It honestly
[00:59:18] does. This is
[00:59:22] how the world paid its respects to the undisputed
[00:59:25] queen of country. The idea of a world without dolly in it,
[00:59:29] it just doesn't seem
[00:59:33] real. Dollywood, come on down to Dollywood, you'll have fun
[00:59:36] and we'll treat you good, so come on down to Dollywood, it's better on
[00:59:39] Fasson.
[01:00:06] live from Washington, this is BBC News. The UN
[01:00:10] issues are warning about the humanitarian crisis in Yemen as the
[01:00:13] Houtis and Saudi forces exchange large-scale drone. and
[01:00:17] missile attacks, forcing more than 100 thous people from
[01:00:21] their homes. The Pentagon says US space force
[01:00:25] has positioned weapons in Earth's orbit that are capable of destroying
[01:00:29] hostile threats. And AI leaders gather at
[01:00:33] summits on both sides the country as President Trump continues to
[01:00:36] downplay growing concerns about the
[01:00:39] technology.
[01:00:49] "I'm Helena Hompfrey, good to have you with us. We begin in the Middle East where the UN is
[01:00:53] warning that the humanitarian crisis in Yemen is deepening,
[01:00:57] as the Iran back toothy rebels assault the sound."