BBCNEWS — BBC News 20260917 000000 UTC 496 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:13] Live from Washington. This is [00:00:16] BBC News. President Trump lashes lashes out at the US central bank [00:00:20] bank after it raises interest rates rates for the first time in three [00:00:24] three years, citing inflation. Saudi [00:00:26] Saudi Arabia intercepts a Houthi Houthi drone near the holiest city [00:00:29] city in Islam, branding it a disgraceful [00:00:33] disgraceful act and the European European Union proposes Canada become [00:00:35] become the first associate member [00:00:37] member as the trade war between Ottawa [00:00:40] Ottawa and Washington escalates. [00:00:50] escalates. I'm Helena Humphrey good good to have you with us. We begin [00:00:53] begin here in the US where the Federal Federal Reserve, the US central bank, [00:00:57] bank, has raised interest rates for for the first time in more than three [00:01:00] three years in an effort to curb curb stubbornly rising prices. Well, [00:01:04] Well, The Fed raised its benchmark [00:01:06] benchmark rate by a quarter of a a percentage point and indicated [00:01:09] indicated it could do so again before before the end of the year. Federal [00:01:12] Federal Reserve Chairman Kevin Warsh Warsh says the American economy is [00:01:16] is broadly in good shape, but inflation [00:01:18] inflation has been too high for too too long. Well, President Trump responded [00:01:22] responded to the decision on his his way to campaign for Republicans [00:01:26] Republicans in North Carolina. The [00:01:28] The interest rates are too high. high. They're not appropriate. And [00:01:31] And I told I talked to Kevin and and I said, you might as well vote [00:01:35] vote with the board because it's it's not going to matter. The board [00:01:38] board is very hostile. They're very very political. They're doing the [00:01:41] the wrong thing. There are a bunch bunch of politicians or people put [00:01:44] put on by politicians, and it's a [00:01:47] a shame because it's too high an an interest rate. Despite that, the [00:01:50] the country barrels through everything everything because we're doing so so well. But the interest rates are [00:01:54] are too high. We should be paying paying the lowest interest rate anywhere [00:01:58] anywhere in the world because we [00:01:59] we have the strongest credit. Our [00:02:02] Our business correspondent Samira Samira Hussain has more. By raising [00:02:05] raising interest rates a quarter quarter of a percentage point in [00:02:08] in saying that inflation is the big big reason why the Federal Reserve [00:02:12] Reserve did what it was expected expected to do. Now, The Fed also [00:02:15] also said that, look, the US economy [00:02:17] economy is growing at a pretty healthy [00:02:21] healthy rate, despite geo developments. developments. Presumably referring [00:02:24] referring to the war with Iran, which [00:02:27] which has really driven up inflation. inflation. In a press conference, [00:02:31] conference, Fed Chair Kevin Warsh Warsh admitted look, this rate hike [00:02:35] hike won't reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Hormuz. A quarter point rate hike [00:02:38] hike does not reopen the Strait of of Hormuz. And so I wonder how you [00:02:41] you think the smaller rate hikes [00:02:43] hikes will be effective when it can't can't necessarily address the energy [00:02:47] energy supply side of inflationary inflationary pressures. We cannot [00:02:50] cannot affect any individual price, price, whether it be oil prices, [00:02:54] prices, whether it be foodstuffs foodstuffs at the grocery store. [00:02:56] store. But what we can do and will [00:02:58] will do is ensure that any change [00:03:01] change in relative prices don't broaden broaden out. So how will all of this [00:03:04] this make a difference? Well, the the Federal Reserve really made it [00:03:07] it clear that this is all about the [00:03:10] the American consumer and specifically specifically those that are less [00:03:13] less well off, that they really want [00:03:16] want to try and get the cost of living living under control. And this is [00:03:19] is one way that they can do that. [00:03:23] that. Now President Trump says if [00:03:25] if Canada joins the European Union, Union, he'll consider cutting off [00:03:29] off trade with Europe altogether altogether or imposing heavy tariffs. [00:03:32] tariffs. He added that he wouldn't wouldn't do that if he thought it [00:03:35] it was done with good intention. intention. It comes on the same day [00:03:38] day that the President of the European European Commission announced proposals [00:03:40] proposals for Canada to be made an an associate member of the EU. Ursula [00:03:44] Ursula von der Leyen told the European European Parliament that the union [00:03:47] union must build new coalitions as [00:03:49] as the international rules-based [00:03:51] rules-based system fractures. We [00:03:53] We want to bring the relationship [00:03:55] relationship with Canada to the highest [00:03:58] highest level possible. And dear [00:04:00] dear Mark, I said, we must urgently [00:04:04] urgently reimagine our partnerships. partnerships. So I would like to [00:04:07] to work with you on opening the door [00:04:11] door for Canada to being the first [00:04:14] first associate member of the European [00:04:17] European Union. Those comments by [00:04:23] by the EU commissioner come as the the Canadian Prime Minister, Mark [00:04:26] Mark Carney, says that Ottawa is is seeking a unique alliance with [00:04:30] with the EU as Canada's relationship relationship with the US continues [00:04:34] continues to deteriorate, with trade trade talks falling through and both [00:04:37] both countries imposing sanctions sanctions on one another. Our Europe [00:04:41] Europe editor Katya Adler, explained explained why the EU commissioner [00:04:43] commissioner made the decision. It's It's actually a very bold move of [00:04:47] of Ursula von der Leyen, the European European Commission president, because [00:04:50] because traditionally the EU is seen seen as really rigid. It's got all [00:04:53] all of these rules and all these these regulations when it comes to [00:04:57] to trade relations. But Brussels Brussels is really under pressure [00:05:01] pressure in this volatile world that [00:05:02] that we live in. Europe feels squished [00:05:05] squished between the superpowers. superpowers. US on the one side and and China on the other. And Canada [00:05:09] Canada is seen as a like-minded nation. [00:05:13] nation. And And so Ursula von der Leyen has offered this associate membership [00:05:16] membership to Canada. What does that that mean? Because there's already [00:05:19] already a very ambitious trade partnership partnership between the two sides. [00:05:22] sides. Well, we're looking at possibly possibly co-operating on digital [00:05:26] digital and tech on energy, raw materials. materials. That's all something that [00:05:29] that Canada can offer. The European European Union. But it's also been [00:05:32] been on a kind of a buy European European spree of late when it comes [00:05:35] comes to defence, like buying attack attack submarines from the Germans, [00:05:39] Germans, for example. And while... And while Ursula von der Leyen [00:05:42] was speaking in front of the European European Parliament today, who was [00:05:45] was in the audience? Mark Carney, Carney, the Prime Minister of Canada, [00:05:48] Canada, he has spoken of his desire [00:05:50] desire for a unique new relationship [00:05:53] relationship with the European Union. [00:05:55] Union. This loving, according to [00:05:57] to well, Ursula von der Leyen is is not against anyone else. It's [00:06:00] It's about being more powerful together. together. But behind the scenes you've [00:06:04] you've got Europe, you've got European European officials and officials [00:06:07] officials from Canada saying, look, look, the unintended matchmaker here [00:06:10] here is definitely Donald Trump. [00:06:12] Trump. The Europeans are really bruised [00:06:15] bruised by the White House. For decades, decades, Europe has looked to the [00:06:17] the United States to have its back [00:06:20] back in terms of security and also also to have sometimes competition, [00:06:23] competition, but basically friendly friendly relations when it comes [00:06:25] comes to trade. No longer. As for for Canada, it's in the middle of [00:06:29] of an escalating trade tiff with with Washington. And we've heard [00:06:32] heard Donald Trump say over and again again his ambition is to swallow [00:06:36] swallow up Canada and make it America's [00:06:39] America's 51st state. Mark Carney Carney earlier this year said, look, [00:06:43] look, middle powers, as he calls calls it, they have to stick together [00:06:46] together and defend some kind of [00:06:50] of global multilateral order. And And this you could see as an attempt attempt at it. But, you know, the [00:06:54] the devil is always in the detail detail when it comes to the European [00:06:57] European Union. You can have all all of these ambitions, but there [00:07:01] there is no legal framework as it it stands for an association agreement [00:07:04] agreement with the European Union. Union. There's a summit between Canada [00:07:07] Canada and the EU at the end of October. October. We'll see what working groups [00:07:11] groups can come up with. But we've we've heard from the commission. [00:07:14] commission. What about European member member states? I said that there [00:07:17] there already is a big trade deal deal in place between Canada and [00:07:20] and the EU. It was signed almost almost ten years ago, but you have [00:07:24] have ten EU member states, including including big powers France, Poland [00:07:28] Poland and Italy that haven't even [00:07:31] even ratified that yet. And those those three countries have got big [00:07:34] big elections coming up, and they're they're going to be worried about [00:07:37] about hugging Canada too tightly. tightly. They may be wary of the [00:07:40] the US at the moment, but they're they're also scared that Donald Trump [00:07:44] Trump could be angry if they're too too close to Canada or could even [00:07:47] even try to impose more tariffs. tariffs. And that's why although although the European Commission [00:07:51] Commission has spoken out loudly, [00:07:53] loudly, the member states are watching, watching, applauding silently, and [00:07:56] and we have to see what actually actually comes of this associate [00:07:59] associate membership. Well, Shuvaloy [00:08:02] Shuvaloy Majumdar is a Conservative Conservative MP for Calgary Heritage [00:08:05] Heritage and shadow minister for for Canada-U.S. Relations. I asked [00:08:08] asked him whether the invite for for Canada to become an associate [00:08:11] associate member of the EU came as [00:08:13] as a surprise. It did. We first heard [00:08:17] heard reports about this from the the Wall Street Journal a couple couple of days ago during the Prime [00:08:21] Prime Minister's Investment Summit Summit in Canada in Toronto. Then Then we watched the Prime Minister's [00:08:25] Minister's office walk back the announcement announcement saying that it was not not going to be an associate membership [00:08:29] membership in the EU. And then we we saw the EU leadership describe [00:08:31] describe it as an associate membership. membership. So you'll forgive us. us. We have many questions of what [00:08:35] what would be involved with respect respect to Canada's relationship [00:08:39] relationship across the transatlantic. transatlantic. Obviously we have have a proud relationship with Nato. [00:08:43] Nato. We have a proud relationship relationship with trade in the city city arrangement which ten European [00:08:47] European countries have yet to ratify. ratify. So the need and the purpose [00:08:51] purpose of scope of this is obviously obviously concerning to Canadians [00:08:54] Canadians when it comes to the presence [00:08:56] presence of the European Union with [00:08:58] with our sovereignty, our immigration, [00:09:00] immigration, our access to markets markets and our regulatory environment. environment. There's many questions [00:09:04] questions that the Prime Minister Minister should bring before the [00:09:07] the Canadian Parliament. Many concerns [00:09:10] concerns that you have just brought brought up there many questions about about what this could look like. [00:09:14] like. Do you think there could be be any benefits to this? Listen, [00:09:17] Listen, it is a time in which Canada Canada should be self-confident with with Washington, with Europe and [00:09:21] and with the world. Indeed, trade trade diversification is something [00:09:24] something that Canada has to take take very seriously. Not only does [00:09:26] does it require the right arrangements arrangements around the world, whether whether to Europe or to Asia, it [00:09:30] it requires our own domestic capability capability to have a very competitive [00:09:34] competitive regulatory environment, environment, a tax environment that's that's attractive to investment, [00:09:38] investment, a regulatory environment environment that gets to yes, on [00:09:40] on massive projects with respect respect to our commodities, our manufacturing [00:09:43] manufacturing and advanced manufacturing manufacturing potential. When it it comes to AI, critical minerals [00:09:47] minerals and all the technologies technologies of the future, those those are all domestic decisions [00:09:50] decisions that Canada has to make make today, particularly in the context [00:09:53] context of the urgency of the trade trade dispute we have with the United United States, why we would need [00:09:57] need a deeper relationship with the the European Union beyond what we [00:10:01] we enjoy with CETA and with our military military partnerships, is something [00:10:04] something that is a mystery to. I I think, many Canadians and certainly certainly the official opposition. [00:10:07] opposition. We look forward to hearing hearing more from the Prime Minister [00:10:09] Minister in our Parliament, in our our House of Commons, where in a [00:10:13] a wartime setting he has a responsibility responsibility to be held accountable. accountable. There are questions [00:10:17] questions right now as to where the the US., Canada relationship goes [00:10:21] goes from here. When you look at at trade, for example, when you look [00:10:25] look at comments perhaps from President [00:10:27] President Trump when it comes to [00:10:30] to Nato, do you think the US is still [00:10:32] still a reliable partner for Canada? [00:10:35] Canada? Well, look, as you well know, [00:10:37] know, our geography defines our national national and economic security. The [00:10:40] The continent of North America has has many issues to concern itself [00:10:44] itself with respect to the Arctic, Arctic, the Pacific stability, our [00:10:47] our transatlantic relationships and and our partnerships, Canada has [00:10:50] has to make sovereign decisions on [00:10:52] on assuring that it's a reality that that our our country has when it [00:10:56] it comes to dealing with our immediate immediate borders and the protection [00:10:59] protection of our people when it it comes to the prosperity and the the partnerships we have. Obviously, [00:11:03] Obviously, Europe and Nato have been been longstanding partners for Canada [00:11:06] Canada in the transatlantic Alliance. Alliance. We are indeed experiencing [00:11:08] experiencing a disruption internationally internationally in all of the arrangements [00:11:12] arrangements around the world. There's There's an American response that [00:11:15] that started with President Trump Trump continued by Biden and now [00:11:17] now through Trump's second administration, administration, it's held through [00:11:21] through by by by bipartisan support support in the United States Congress. Congress. And it's largely a response [00:11:25] response to the disruption that has has been caused by China to our supply [00:11:28] supply chains, our energy, our investment, [00:11:32] investment, and our capability to to do commerce and trade with one [00:11:34] one another, our supply chain. So [00:11:36] So when we're as our country reflects reflects on how we deal with these [00:11:40] these types of issues moving forward, forward, it is absolutely critical [00:11:43] critical that we think about our our own national interests and to to ensure that the sovereignty of [00:11:47] of Canada is never to become the [00:11:49] the 51st state to the United States States or the 24th member of the [00:11:53] the European Union. Our sovereignty sovereignty matters to the country country and to the people of this [00:11:56] this country very dearly. I mean, mean, it is early days in all of [00:12:00] of this, but I'm curious as to whether whether you've heard from any of [00:12:03] of your constituents how Canadians Canadians feel about this idea more [00:12:06] more broadly. It is certainly something something that is gripping our national [00:12:10] national debate, how we work with with our partners is a key issue. [00:12:14] issue. Europe has great potential potential and great possibility for [00:12:17] for Canada. You know, the centre centre of gravity for global growth growth for the next half century [00:12:21] century will be the Indo Pacific Pacific region, of which Canada is [00:12:23] is a proud Pacific nation. We have [00:12:26] have massive decisions that are being being asked by our constituents at [00:12:29] at the doors about how do we create create a stable environment for our [00:12:33] our workers and our people, how do do we ensure the sovereignty of our our country, whether it's economic [00:12:36] economic or security, is not compromised compromised with any partnership? [00:12:39] partnership? And how do we more importantly importantly unlock the extraordinary [00:12:42] extraordinary potential of trillions trillions of dollars of commodity commodity strength, the things that [00:12:46] that would supercharge our economy economy and make us a powerhouse, powerhouse, an economic powerhouse [00:12:49] powerhouse for the next half century, century, all of the things that Canada [00:12:52] Canada has to offer the world, from from agriculture to energy to technology [00:12:56] technology to value addition in our our industry, are things that our [00:12:59] our allied world needs. And we have have to make as we hear from our [00:13:02] our people in every single day, the the big decisions to transform our [00:13:05] our country and deliver that potential potential to the world. Well, turning [00:13:09] turning now to the Middle East, where where Saudi Arabia says that they [00:13:12] they have intercepted a Houthi drone drone near Mecca, the holiest city [00:13:15] city in Islam. A Saudi spokesperson spokesperson called it a disgraceful [00:13:19] disgraceful act. The Iran backed backed Houthis have denied targeting [00:13:22] targeting Mecca. The Houthis have, have, however, claimed to have shot [00:13:25] shot down a Saudi fighter jet over over Yemen. It comes after the rebel [00:13:29] rebel group seized control of large large swathes of Yemen's Red coast [00:13:33] coast from the Saudi backed pro-government pro-government forces. Our security [00:13:37] security correspondent, Frank Gardner [00:13:38] Gardner has more. Down in the desert, [00:13:45] desert, Yemen's Houthi rebels displaying displaying a Saudi Air Force F-15 [00:13:48] F-15 fighter jet they brought down down with a missile. They may not [00:13:51] not look. The most professional of [00:13:54] of armies, but their actions reach [00:13:56] reach far beyond their borders. The [00:13:59] The Houthis in this shaded area here here can now threaten almost any [00:14:03] any shipping passing Yemen's Red Red Sea coast. Now remember that [00:14:06] that on the other side of the Arabian Arabian Peninsula, the Strait of [00:14:10] of Hormuz is largely blocked due [00:14:12] due to the US-Iran war. To get around [00:14:14] around this, Saudi Arabia has been been pumping around 6 million barrels [00:14:18] barrels of oil a day through this this east west pipeline to their [00:14:22] their export terminal at Yanbu on [00:14:24] on the Red Sea. From there, Saudi [00:14:26] Saudi tankers have been taking the [00:14:28] the oil south, heading for the Asian [00:14:31] Asian markets via the Bab al-Mandab al-Mandab Strait. But the Houthis [00:14:33] Houthis are at war with the Saudis, [00:14:36] Saudis, and they vowed to target [00:14:38] target all Saudi shipping. The Saudi [00:14:40] Saudi Houthi conflict has recently [00:14:43] recently escalated dramatically, dramatically, and that helps Iran. [00:14:46] Iran. Iran now can go to the Trump Trump administration and actually [00:14:50] actually negotiate on better terms. terms. Now they don't just control [00:14:52] control the Strait of Hormuz, but but actually very two important choke [00:14:56] choke points and control over almost [00:15:00] almost 35% of the global oil [00:15:05] economy. The Houthis seen here firing firing on Yemeni government forces [00:15:07] forces are tough tribal fighters fighters from the highlands. But [00:15:10] But they've also been armed and trained trained by Iran. That's allowed them [00:15:14] them to strike targets in Saudi Arabia [00:15:16] Arabia like airports, oil depots [00:15:19] depots and pipelines. All this is [00:15:22] is a counterbalance to the US Navy's [00:15:24] Navy's blockade of Iran's Gulf ports, [00:15:26] ports, a blockade that Iran and its [00:15:29] its murals say America cannot win. [00:15:32] win. Frank Gardner, BBC News. Well, [00:15:36] Well, elsewhere in the Middle East, East, new photos reveal the damage [00:15:38] damage that Iranian missile and drone drone attacks have done across US [00:15:42] US military positions in the region. [00:15:44] region. The images sent from active [00:15:46] active service members to our US [00:15:48] US news content partner CBS shows [00:15:51] shows damaged and destroyed buildings, buildings, vehicles and aircraft. [00:15:53] aircraft. One deployed service member member told CBS News the extent of [00:15:57] of the damage is not being communicated communicated to the public well here [00:16:00] here in Washington there is opposition [00:16:03] opposition to a $2.8 billion US arms arms sale to Israel. The Trump administration's [00:16:07] administration's partner in its war war with Iran. Congressman Gregory [00:16:10] Gregory Meeks, the top Democrat on on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, [00:16:13] Committee, says that he will not [00:16:14] not vote to authorise the sale of [00:16:18] of £2,000 bombs to Israel. It comes comes a day after the Defence Department [00:16:21] Department inspector general reported reported that the US military is [00:16:24] is facing a shortfall in munitions [00:16:27] munitions from the Iran war and our our State Department correspondent correspondent Tom Bateman has more [00:16:31] more details on the damage to US [00:16:34] US positions in the Middle East. East. These are pictures from anonymous [00:16:36] anonymous US service members showing showing how bad Iranian attacks have [00:16:40] have been on some American bases bases in the Gulf. This one shows [00:16:43] shows a US surveillance plane smashed smashed up in Saudi Arabia. One whistleblower [00:16:47] whistleblower called this major damage damage that hasn't been communicated communicated to the American public. [00:16:51] public. And the pictures show just just how unprotected the bases appear [00:16:55] appear to be from Iranian missiles missiles and drones. One service service member said, we're standing [00:16:59] standing there with our eyes closed, closed, getting punched in the face. [00:17:02] face. The Trump administration said said its air defences are incredible [00:17:05] incredible and have shot down most most attacks, but said in March. March. Every once. In a while you [00:17:09] you might have one. Unfortunately Unfortunately we call it a squirter [00:17:11] squirter that makes its way through. But the service member said said these aren't Squirters saying [00:17:15] saying we're not defending these these bases, we're just watching [00:17:18] watching them get destroyed. Now [00:17:21] Now to Gaza, where 21 people were [00:17:22] were killed in an apartment building [00:17:25] building collapse overnight. Several Several Palestinian families were [00:17:28] were seeking refuge inside the building, building, despite it being severely [00:17:31] severely damaged by an Israeli air air strike last year. They say they [00:17:34] they could find no other shelter shelter after being displaced by [00:17:38] by prior attacks. Officials say rescue rescue efforts have ended after local [00:17:41] local search teams found 45 injured. [00:17:44] injured. Survivors and others thought thought missing now accounted for. [00:17:47] for. Well, the United Nations has has warned that hundreds of other [00:17:50] other war damaged buildings in Gaza [00:17:52] Gaza are at imminent risk of collapse, [00:17:55] collapse, and the BBC, like other other international media organisations, [00:17:58] organisations, can't report from [00:18:00] from inside Gaza. From Jerusalem. Jerusalem. Our international correspondent [00:18:03] correspondent Yogita Limaye sent [00:18:04] sent us this report. The flimsy. [00:18:08] flimsy. Shelter of a war ravaged [00:18:10] ravaged building one of hundreds [00:18:12] hundreds in Gaza suddenly gave way [00:18:14] way last night, killing families [00:18:17] families sleeping inside. Is anyone [00:18:18] anyone there? Rescuers shouted using [00:18:22] using hammers, drills and their bare [00:18:24] bare hands to pull people out. Heavy [00:18:28] Heavy machines are in short supply. supply. There are restrictions on [00:18:31] on what can be brought into Gaza. [00:18:34] Gaza. Don't be scared my child. Rescuers [00:18:37] Rescuers comforted six-year-old Aboud, Aboud, who was trapped next to the [00:18:40] the bodies of some of his family. [00:18:42] family. It took hours to lift him [00:18:44] him out. A bit earlier, his sister [00:18:47] sister Farial, who suffered a head [00:18:50] head injury, was rescued carried carried here by her father after [00:18:53] after being bandaged in hospital. [00:18:54] hospital. She spoke to the BBC when [00:18:58] when the building collapsed. I was [00:19:00] was trapped under a wall. My grandparents grandparents died and we still can't [00:19:04] can't find my mother. Farial said [00:19:07] said later she found out her mother [00:19:09] mother had also died. Most of the [00:19:12] the victims are women and children. [00:19:14] children. A rescuer carried out the the body of a little girl and cried. [00:19:19] cried. She had the right to live live in a humane way, Mansour Backrooms [00:19:22] Backrooms tent was right next to [00:19:24] to the collapsed building. They didn't didn't have anywhere else to live. [00:19:28] live. People are living in the streets [00:19:31] streets and there is no space. There's There's no decent shelter for most [00:19:35] most of Gaza's people. The destruction [00:19:37] destruction caused by Israeli bombing bombing is staggering. And nearly [00:19:40] nearly a year since the ceasefire [00:19:42] ceasefire rebuilding has not begun. [00:19:45] begun. Today that's taken the lives [00:19:47] lives of at least 20. They said that [00:19:50] that reconstruction material will will enter Gaza and there will be [00:19:53] be rebuilding. But unfortunately, unfortunately, my uncle and his whole [00:19:56] whole family were killed without without getting a safe place to live. [00:20:00] live. These are families who fled fled from one place to another to [00:20:03] to survive. But safety remains out [00:20:06] out of reach. Yogita Limaye, BBC [00:20:09] BBC News in Jerusalem. Well still [00:20:13] still to come, US lawmakers hold hold an emergency bipartisan briefing [00:20:17] briefing about artificial intelligence intelligence as concerns grow about [00:20:20] about the technology. We'll have have more on that after the [00:21:22] Yorkshire Dales to the Scottish Highlands Highlands meeting people proven adventure [00:21:26] adventure is far from offline. The [00:21:27] The Travel Show on BBC iPlayer. You're [00:21:36] You're live with BBC News Now. Senator Senator Bernie Sanders brought in [00:21:40] in top AI researchers to meet with with a bipartisan group of lawmakers [00:21:44] lawmakers at emergency briefing on on Capitol Hill. It's part of Senator [00:21:47] Senator Sanders effort to rein in [00:21:50] in development of artificial intelligence intelligence as concerns grow about [00:21:53] about how quickly the new technology [00:21:56] technology is being developed. President President Trump has dismissed AI [00:21:59] AI risks as a hoax. A new safety safety legislation on AI is unlikely [00:22:03] unlikely to emerge from Congress Congress any time soon, with a lack [00:22:06] lack of consensus within both parties [00:22:09] parties on how regulation would happen. happen. Well, Carl Nasman has more. [00:22:13] more. This was really the first Capitol Capitol Hill briefing that we've [00:22:16] we've seen on artificial intelligence intelligence since some of those [00:22:18] those dire warnings about the technology. technology. And this was a gathering [00:22:21] gathering of Democrats and Republicans, Republicans, mostly Democrats, we we should say, who were there to [00:22:25] to listen to three computer science science experts walk them through [00:22:29] through some of these recent incidents incidents and why they think they [00:22:32] they could pose a risk not only to to the country, but maybe to humanity [00:22:35] humanity itself. As those lawmakers lawmakers came out of that room, [00:22:38] room, it was very clear from what what they had to say that they took took those risks seriously and that [00:22:42] that they do think that Congress Congress should play a role in terms [00:22:46] terms of regulating artificial intelligence. intelligence. Senator Bernie Sanders [00:22:49] Sanders organised this meeting. He He really has some of the strongest [00:22:52] strongest proposals for how to regulate regulate artificial intelligence, [00:22:55] intelligence, including a complete complete ban on super intelligence. [00:22:58] intelligence. That's any AI deemed deemed to be smarter than humans. [00:23:01] humans. He spoke to reporters after [00:23:04] after that meeting. Here's what he he had to say. I think it is basically [00:23:07] basically insane, and I think most most Americans would agree with me [00:23:11] me that we allow the development [00:23:13] development of a dangerous technology technology that could escape human [00:23:17] human control. I mean, that's kind kind of a no-brainer. So it does does feel like there is pressure [00:23:21] pressure on lawmakers right now to to take some sort of action around [00:23:24] around the risks of artificial intelligence, intelligence, but there isn't a lot [00:23:27] lot of agreement about what that that action should be. We know that [00:23:30] that President Trump has called these [00:23:33] these threats, these warnings a scam scam or a hoax. He doesn't believe believe that these are real. The [00:23:36] The top Republican in the House, House, Mike Johnson, wants the AI [00:23:40] AI companies to regulate themselves. themselves. There is a bipartisan [00:23:43] bipartisan bill right now Democrat Democrat and Republican sponsoring [00:23:47] sponsoring legislation in the House. House. But we are not likely to see [00:23:50] see any votes any time soon. That's That's because the House is on their [00:23:53] their way out of Washington, and and those lawmakers won't be returning [00:23:57] returning until after the mid-term mid-term elections. So we are likely [00:24:00] likely to see this issue of artificial artificial intelligence continue [00:24:03] continue to be one of those really really hot button campaign topics [00:24:06] topics all the way until those November [00:24:08] November elections. Now Spencer, Spencer, the brother of Diana, Princess [00:24:12] Princess of Wales, has claimed that that King Charles said will forget [00:24:15] forget her soon enough days after after her death. In an extract from [00:24:19] from his upcoming memoir. Buckingham Buckingham Palace has released an [00:24:22] an unusually pointed response to to the allegations. It comes after [00:24:26] after copies of the unreleased memoir memoir were stolen in the Netherlands Netherlands ahead of the book's release. [00:24:30] release. Our senior royal correspondent correspondent Daniela Relph spoke [00:24:32] spoke to my colleague Sophie Raworth [00:24:34] Raworth about this development. Sophie, Sophie, this is another chapter of [00:24:38] of royal drama unfolding this evening. evening. Next week, Earl Spencer [00:24:42] Spencer releases his new book about about his sister called Swan Song. [00:24:45] Song. It's being serialised in the the Daily Mail over the coming days, [00:24:48] days, and we've had the first extract extract from that book tonight. Now [00:24:51] Now in it, Earl Spencer recounts recounts what he says was a row with [00:24:54] with the King when he was Prince [00:24:56] Prince of Wales in 1997 after the [00:24:59] the death of Princess Diana. He says says that he told the King that he [00:25:02] he didn't approve of the decision decision to have Princes William [00:25:05] William and Harry walking behind behind their mother's coffin at her [00:25:08] her funeral. He writes that the King King responded showing his contempt [00:25:12] contempt for Diana, saying rest assured [00:25:14] assured we'll forget her soon enough. enough. Now Buckingham Palace has [00:25:18] has pushed back on this with real real bite. This evening it is unusual [00:25:22] unusual for them to respond so forcefully. forcefully. In a statement, a Palace [00:25:26] Palace spokesperson said while we we do not comment on books as a matter [00:25:30] matter of principle, His Majesty Majesty is mindful that the pain [00:25:32] pain of fraternal grief can cloud [00:25:35] cloud reason, affect judgement and [00:25:37] and colour memory in ways others [00:25:39] others do not recognise. Even many many years after such a loss. It [00:25:43] It is carefully worded and robust. robust. Sophie and the fact that [00:25:47] that the Palace released that kind kind of statement tonight is a sign [00:25:50] sign of just how angry they are about [00:25:51] about Earl Spencer's claims. Our [00:25:55] Our senior royal correspondent there, there, Daniela Relph reporting on [00:25:58] on that story. Well, it's good night night from all of us here in Washington, [00:26:01] Washington, DC I'll leave you in in the hands of Singapore. I'll see see you soon. [00:27:35] with highs of 36 or 37. [00:29:40] for world questions. Nigeria truth, [00:29:42] truth, trust and fake news on BBC [00:29:46] BBC News. MUSIC [00:29:58] Now on BBC News. Join our AI [00:30:01] Decoded team as we unpack, explore [00:30:03] explore and take a deep dive into [00:30:06] into the world of artificial intelligence. [00:30:22] Welcome to AI Decoded. I'm Marc Cieslak, the BBC's AI correspondent. [00:30:26] correspondent. This week we're looking looking at a technology that's been been making headlines for all the [00:30:30] the wrong reasons AI powered smart smart glasses. The tech has had a [00:30:33] a few false starts, but Essilorluxottica, Essilorluxottica, the eyewear giant [00:30:36] giant that partners with Meta on [00:30:38] on its AI enabled shades and specs, specs, says it sold 7 million pairs [00:30:42] pairs last year. However, critics critics have labelled them pervert [00:30:45] pervert glasses. Some venues are are banning them outright while lawsuits [00:30:48] lawsuits have been filed over privacy. privacy. There's another side to [00:30:51] to the story, though, for blind and and visually impaired users, these [00:30:54] these devices can read menus, identify identify surroundings and some say [00:30:57] say are easier to use than