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[00:00:10] Live from London. This is BBC
[00:00:12] News. The King issues an unusually unusually pointed response after
[00:00:15] after Earl Spencer, Princess Diana's Diana's brother, makes fresh claims
[00:00:19] claims about him in his new book
[00:00:22] book Microsoft's head of AI tells tells the BBC his competitors approach
[00:00:25] approach to training their models models could have a disastrous impact
[00:00:28] impact on the wellbeing of humanity.
[00:00:31] humanity. I think that if we all
[00:00:33] all create AI's that are able to
[00:00:36] to act autonomously, that can define
[00:00:38] define their own objectives, we're
[00:00:40] we're essentially seeding a new silicon silicon species which will no doubt
[00:00:44] doubt compete with us for resources.
[00:00:46] resources. The Bank of England is is expected to hold interest rates
[00:00:50] rates in the face of rising prices.
[00:00:53] prices. The US hikes, borrowing costs costs Russia heads to the polls for
[00:00:57] for parliamentary elections, the
[00:00:58] the first since Russia's full-scale
[00:01:01] full-scale invasion of Ukraine. And
[00:01:03] And is there a secret to a very long long life? Talking Movies speaks
[00:01:07] speaks to a filmmaker about the ever ever changing title of the oldest
[00:01:10] oldest living person. Hello, I'm
[00:01:22] I'm Karin Giannone. Buckingham Palace Palace has rejected claims about
[00:01:25] about the King made by Princess Diana's
[00:01:26] Diana's brother Earl Spencer. In
[00:01:29] In his new memoir. In a Daily Mail
[00:01:31] Mail serialisation of his new book, book, due to be released next week,
[00:01:34] week, Charles Spencer said that after after the death of his sister in
[00:01:38] in 1997, the King told him that the the then Princess of Wales would
[00:01:42] would be forgotten soon enough. Our
[00:01:44] Our senior royal correspondent, Daniela
[00:01:47] Daniela Relph reports. It is the the content of Earl Spencer's book
[00:01:51] book about his sister that has driven driven Buckingham Palace to issue
[00:01:54] issue an unusually robust response. response. Earl Spencer writes of
[00:01:58] of a row with the King back in 1997,
[00:02:00] 1997, when the King was Prince of of Wales after he challenged him
[00:02:04] him on the decision to allow Princes Princes William and Harry to walk
[00:02:07] walk behind their mother's coffin coffin at her funeral, something something he said his sister would
[00:02:11] would not have wanted. Earl Spencer
[00:02:13] Spencer claims the King replied angrily,
[00:02:15] angrily, saying that Diana would
[00:02:17] would be forgotten soon enough. The The response from Buckingham Palace,
[00:02:20] Palace, a sign of the fury behind
[00:02:23] behind palace walls. An official
[00:02:26] official spokesman said while we we do not comment on books as a matter
[00:02:29] matter of principle, His Majesty Majesty is mindful that the pain
[00:02:33] pain of fraternal grief can cloud
[00:02:36] cloud reason, affect judgement and
[00:02:37] and colour memory in ways others
[00:02:40] others do not recognise. Even many
[00:02:42] many years after such a loss. Not
[00:02:44] Not since the late Queen's statement statement that recollections may
[00:02:48] may vary after the Duke and Duchess Duchess of Sussex's interview with
[00:02:51] with Oprah Winfrey has a royal statement
[00:02:54] statement packed so much punch. It's
[00:02:58] It's been a challenging few weeks weeks for the Royal family, many
[00:03:01] many of whom will be out on official
[00:03:04] official duty today. As will Prince Prince Harry, who'll be in London
[00:03:08] London for an awards dinner for the the Invictus Games for wounded military
[00:03:12] military personnel. His first public
[00:03:15] public charity engagement since moving moving back to the UK with his wife
[00:03:19] wife and children. Since inception, inception, Prince Harry has been
[00:03:22] been a spectacular champion for the
[00:03:24] the Invictus Games Foundation. He's
[00:03:27] He's been a visionary for the Invictus Invictus Movement throughout and
[00:03:30] and having him closer to our HQ here
[00:03:34] here in London is incredible. Come
[00:03:37] Come on you come on. The return of of Harry and Meghan has brought with
[00:03:41] with it a degree of drama over their
[00:03:44] their security. The safety of their their children on the school run
[00:03:47] run and speculation over why they
[00:03:49] they have come back to the UK. The
[00:03:53] The return of Sussexes really is
[00:03:56] is shows just how much they run out
[00:03:58] out of road in Montecito. And they they had run out of road do you think?
[00:04:02] think? Totally run out of road. They
[00:04:05] They seem to be unable to just simply
[00:04:09] simply quietly with composure, examine examine their options and follow
[00:04:12] follow a route. You know, they they
[00:04:14] they crash into things, you know, know, all the time. How much my husband
[00:04:18] husband loves bagpipes. All of these
[00:04:21] these engagements have been planned planned well in advance. But with
[00:04:23] with Harry and Meghan now back in in the UK, the days where we see
[00:04:27] see the working royals out on the the same day as the non-working ones
[00:04:31] ones will become more common. Daniela
[00:04:35] Daniela Relph, BBC News. Well, King
[00:04:38] King Charles has. Called on AI giants
[00:04:40] giants to keep tech in service of of humanity ahead of him chairing
[00:04:43] chairing a summit with industry leaders. leaders. Concerns about the existential
[00:04:47] existential threat of artificial artificial intelligence have intensified
[00:04:49] intensified in recent weeks, with with several instances of bad actors
[00:04:53] actors using AI models for weapons
[00:04:56] weapons development and fraud. Mustafa Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft
[00:05:00] Microsoft AI, has told the BBC Radio Radio 4 Today Programme that this
[00:05:04] this is a warning shot moment in in the development of AI and there
[00:05:07] there is every risk that we might
[00:05:09] might lose control of it unless it
[00:05:12] it is regulated. I think that if
[00:05:14] if we all create AI that are able
[00:05:17] able to act autonomously, that can can define their own objectives,
[00:05:21] objectives, that can earn money, money, that can own assets, that
[00:05:24] that could run businesses. We're
[00:05:27] We're essentially seeding a new silicon silicon species, which will no doubt
[00:05:31] doubt compete with us for resources resources no matter how much it cares
[00:05:34] cares about humanity and loves us,
[00:05:37] us, which is, I think, Anthropic's
[00:05:39] Anthropic's intention. I think that
[00:05:41] that is mistaken and misguided. But But we have to empirically test it.
[00:05:45] it. And so if they believe that this this is a safer route to developing
[00:05:48] developing AI, then they have to to share the data to prove that.
[00:05:52] that. New silicon species is a chilling chilling phrase. It will make people
[00:05:55] people think of science fiction. fiction. You mean that, don't you?
[00:05:58] you? You mean that there could be
[00:06:00] be a competitor species created by
[00:06:04] by man, perhaps more powerful than
[00:06:06] than man? We've just witnessed a
[00:06:09] a watershed moment in the development
[00:06:12] development of AI and a model that
[00:06:14] that was being trained by OpenAI
[00:06:18] OpenAI inadvertently hacked into
[00:06:20] into Hugging Face, which is a public
[00:06:22] public website that runs evaluations
[00:06:24] evaluations and benchmarks for testing
[00:06:27] testing these agents. The swarm of
[00:06:30] of agents co-ordinated together.
[00:06:33] together. They organised themselves themselves into hierarchies. They
[00:06:36] They created a division of labour, labour, and so they've developed
[00:06:39] developed very, very complex behaviour.
[00:06:41] behaviour. Now the good news is this
[00:06:44] this was OpenAI developing a model
[00:06:47] model deliberately with the guardrails guardrails turned off and they were
[00:06:50] were doing that to try and stress stress test it and learn about its
[00:06:53] its boundaries and limitations. I I just wonder if you ever worry you've
[00:06:57] you've helped create something that that we're losing control of. I think think as we've seen, there's every
[00:07:01] every risk that we might lose control
[00:07:03] control of it. But our job is to
[00:07:07] to contain technologies and align align them so that we get the best
[00:07:09] best out of them. If we didn't have have any air traffic control regulation,
[00:07:12] regulation, planes would be hitting hitting each other in the sky. When
[00:07:15] When we introduced seatbelts, we we saved millions of lives. The purpose
[00:07:19] purpose of regulation is to shape
[00:07:22] shape and sculpt technology so that that it delivers more good than harm.
[00:07:25] harm. And that's the moment that that we're currently now in. So I
[00:07:28] I think it's right to be concerned, concerned, as I said, or worried
[00:07:31] worried or alarmed as you wish. But But it's also right to be optimistic
[00:07:35] optimistic about the benefits and and to have everybody focus now on
[00:07:38] on the challenge of governing and
[00:07:40] and shaping this technology. Well,
[00:07:43] Well, later we'll be speaking to
[00:07:44] to Yang Li, who is co-founder and
[00:07:47] and chief operating officer of AI
[00:07:49] AI lab Cosine. They are developing developing what they describe as
[00:07:53] as the first fully British AI model
[00:07:54] model to rival the likes of Anthropic
[00:07:58] Anthropic and OpenAI. Well, let's let's go back to our main story that
[00:08:02] that war of words between the palace
[00:08:04] palace and the brother of Diana, Diana, Princess of Wales. Let's talk
[00:08:07] talk to our royal correspondent Noor Noor Nanji, who is at Buckingham
[00:08:11] Buckingham Palace, and Noah, very very strongly worded statement from
[00:08:15] from King Charles. That's right.
[00:08:19] right. Very, very unusual and direct
[00:08:20] direct to see this sort of a statement
[00:08:23] statement from the Palace. And I I think it reflects a sense of the
[00:08:27] the anger within the palace at what what we heard from Earl Spencer,
[00:08:31] Spencer, that extract from his book. book. It is very unusual for the
[00:08:34] the palace to issue a statement like like this. We know that famously
[00:08:37] famously the palace motto is never never explain, never complain. But
[00:08:41] But clearly on this occasion they they have felt that they have had had to say something and in a sense
[00:08:45] sense issue something of a corrective corrective to what was said. Where
[00:08:49] Where does it go from here? Well, Well, we know that, of course. This
[00:08:52] This is just one extract of this this book. Earl Spencer's book is
[00:08:55] is due to be published in full next next week. And while we haven't seen
[00:08:59] seen it ourselves, we have heard heard and understand it to be deeply deeply critical of the royal family.
[00:09:03] family. So you can imagine there there will be more damaging claims
[00:09:06] claims and revelations in the days days and weeks ahead. And Noah, as
[00:09:10] as we've been hearing a very busy busy day for the royals, King Charles
[00:09:14] Charles at that AI summit in Scotland, Scotland, a busy day also for the
[00:09:17] the non-working royals. Yes, it is
[00:09:21] is a very crowded royal day, a day day in which you're going to see
[00:09:24] see the King and the Prince and Princess
[00:09:26] Princess of Wales on official royal
[00:09:28] royal duties in Scotland, but also
[00:09:31] also the non-working royal in the the mix the Duke of Sussex. Prince
[00:09:34] Prince Harry is also going to be be at an event which is linked to
[00:09:38] to the Invictus Games here in London, London, and so there will be a lot
[00:09:41] lot of interest to see that. And And of course last week the King
[00:09:44] King did issue that letter in which which he made it clear that now that
[00:09:47] that Prince Harry and Meghan are are back in the UK, they remain non-working
[00:09:50] non-working royals. They are private private citizens and there will be
[00:09:54] be there for a lot of interest to to see how these dynamics play out
[00:09:57] out and what it says about the connections connections and the relationships
[00:10:01] relationships within the wider royal royal family. But I think also on
[00:10:03] on a day like this, it's likely that that a lot of that will be overshadowed
[00:10:07] overshadowed by this war of words words that we're seeing between the the Palace and Earl Spencer. No,
[00:10:11] No, thank you very much. That's Noor Noor Nanji there at Buckingham Palace.
[00:10:15] Palace. Now the Bank of England will will make its latest decision on
[00:10:18] on interest rates in a few hours' hours' time. It's widely expected
[00:10:21] expected to hold the cost of borrowing borrowing in today's meeting, despite
[00:10:25] despite facing an increasing rate rate of price rises. The latest figures
[00:10:28] figures out on Wednesday showed inflation inflation hitting 3.1% in August.
[00:10:32] August. That's the highest level level for five months and that is
[00:10:35] is driven largely by increases in
[00:10:37] in fuel costs. Meanwhile, the Federal Federal Reserve that's the US central
[00:10:41] central bank, has raised interest interest rates for the first time
[00:10:43] time in more than three years to to curb stubbornly rising prices.
[00:10:47] prices. The Fed raised its benchmark benchmark rate by a quarter of a
[00:10:51] a percentage point, and it indicated indicated it could do so again before
[00:10:54] before the end of the year. Federal Federal Reserve Chairman Kevin Walsh
[00:10:58] Walsh says the American economy is is broadly in good shape, but inflation
[00:11:02] inflation has been too high for too
[00:11:05] too long. In Russia, tomorrow is
[00:11:07] is the start of three days of voting voting in Russia's parliamentary
[00:11:11] parliamentary election, the first first since its full-scale invasion invasion of Ukraine. Critics dismiss
[00:11:15] dismiss the vote as neither free free nor transparent, but the Kremlin
[00:11:19] Kremlin is expected to use it to to claim that the country is united
[00:11:22] united behind the policies of President President Putin. From Moscow, our
[00:11:25] our Russia editor Steve Rosenberg
[00:11:27] Rosenberg reports. Ultimate power
[00:11:29] power in Russia lies right here in
[00:11:32] in the Kremlin. But just across the
[00:11:34] the road there is a parliament, the
[00:11:36] the Duma and it's election time. time. So what is a parliamentary
[00:11:39] parliamentary election like now in
[00:11:42] in Russia? Well, on TV we've seen
[00:11:46] seen election debates sort of none none of the candidates turned up
[00:11:49] up for this one. And there has been
[00:11:53] been some campaigning. We caught caught up with the Communist Party
[00:11:56] Party chief at a bakery. At times, times, though, it's been hard to
[00:12:00] to tell the difference between the the ten parties that have been allowed
[00:12:04] allowed onto the ballot. None of of them criticise President Putin
[00:12:06] Putin or the war in Ukraine. And
[00:12:09] And if the political process feels feels rather orchestrated, keep in
[00:12:13] in mind that the political system system in Russia is often referred
[00:12:15] referred to as managed democracy, democracy, where the Kremlin does
[00:12:19] does the managing and I think the the Kremlin will try to use this
[00:12:22] this election to claim that the country
[00:12:24] country is united behind the President
[00:12:26] President and behind the war. There
[00:12:29] There are some individual candidates candidates in some seats calling
[00:12:32] calling for a ceasefire in Ukraine. Ukraine. But their party, which is
[00:12:36] is called Yabloko, which is anti-war, anti-war, isn't allowed to take part
[00:12:40] part in the election as a party in in its own right. It was struck off
[00:12:44] off the ballot by the Supreme Court,
[00:12:48] Court, 50 miles from Moscow. We didn't didn't see much sign of an election.
[00:12:50] election. There were few banners, banners, few election posters, but
[00:12:54] but from chatting to people, there there was every sign that the war
[00:12:57] war is front and centre of people's
[00:13:00] people's minds. I want a peaceful
[00:13:03] peaceful life, Yulia told. Me. I'd
[00:13:07] I'd like to live in a peaceful country, country, says Polina, so that you
[00:13:10] you don't have to worry that a drone drone will fall down in front of
[00:13:14] of you. But expectations are low
[00:13:17] low that this election will bring
[00:13:19] bring peace any closer. Steve Rosenberg
[00:13:23] Rosenberg with that report around
[00:13:24] around the world and across the UK,
[00:14:28] priority? That's this week on Talking
[00:14:29] Talking Business here on BBC News.
[00:14:36] News. Police in Suffolk searching searching for a missing three-year-old three-year-old boy say they have
[00:14:39] have found the body of a child in
[00:14:42] in a pond. Noah Woods, who's non-verbal
[00:14:44] non-verbal and partially deaf, disappeared disappeared from a playground in
[00:14:47] in Brantham more than 24 hours ago.
[00:14:50] ago. Hundreds of volunteers took took part in the search for the child.
[00:14:54] child. Let's talk to our correspondent correspondent Navtej Johal, who's
[00:14:58] who's there in Brantham in Suffolk. Suffolk. And Navtej Johal are people
[00:15:02] people reacting to that news yesterday? yesterday? And after we heard that.
[00:15:05] that. Well, with the level of stoicism, stoicism, but also incredible and
[00:15:09] and deep sadness, I would say throughout throughout this morning we've seen
[00:15:12] seen the flowers behind me being being added to by people coming on
[00:15:15] on their way to dropping their own own children off at school and adding
[00:15:19] adding to these floral tributes,
[00:15:20] tributes, as well as soft toys cards,
[00:15:23] cards, messages to Noah as well. well. And there are more people coming
[00:15:26] coming now also adding flowers and
[00:15:28] and they were some of them part of of that tremendous rescue effort
[00:15:31] effort that we saw taking place yesterday,
[00:15:33] yesterday, the search for Noah that
[00:15:36] that spanned across this village village and beyond that added to
[00:15:39] to the police's work the work of of the Coast Guard, the fire rescue
[00:15:42] rescue team as well. It was around around 3:00 on Tuesday afternoon
[00:15:45] afternoon that Noah was last seen seen here in this playground, playing
[00:15:49] playing with that blue roundabout. roundabout. And that was captured
[00:15:52] captured on CCTV minutes before he
[00:15:54] he then disappeared, running up this
[00:15:56] this alleyway down towards a nearby nearby new housing estate. And of
[00:15:59] of course, that effort that took took place to try and find him over over the 24 hours unfortunately came
[00:16:03] came to an end yesterday afternoon afternoon as the police announced
[00:16:07] announced that a body had been found
[00:16:09] found in a body of water decoy pond
[00:16:12] pond about 400m away from where I'm I'm standing now. And that caused
[00:16:15] caused a huge sense of sadness, of of grief that that search was coming
[00:16:19] coming to an end, that the body had had been found. And since then, as
[00:16:23] as I say, people have been coming coming here leaving these tributes.
[00:16:26] tributes. But also they've been donating donating a fundraiser set up for
[00:16:30] for Noah's family has raised so far
[00:16:34] far more than £17,000. The leisure leisure centre, which became a hub
[00:16:37] hub from which where the volunteers volunteers were being organised,
[00:16:39] organised, has also opened this morning morning to allow anybody to come
[00:16:42] come for a period of reflection and
[00:16:45] and this sense of sadness of grief grief will permeate the village throughout
[00:16:49] throughout today. Now formal identification identification has yet to take place,
[00:16:52] place, but Noah's family have been
[00:16:55] been informed and everyone's thoughts thoughts here will be with them as
[00:16:57] as they come to terms with this terrible
[00:16:59] terrible news. Thank you very much.
[00:17:03] much. Navtej Johal in Suffolk. Palestinian Palestinian officials say the US
[00:17:07] US has again denied a visa to Palestinian
[00:17:10] Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Mahmoud Abbas, forcing him to address
[00:17:12] address the UN General Assembly remotely
[00:17:15] remotely for a second year. Dozens Dozens of officials travelling with
[00:17:18] with him have also been denied visas.
[00:17:20] visas. The US says the decision reflects
[00:17:23] reflects failures to reform and concerns
[00:17:25] concerns over support for terrorism. terrorism. Let's talk to our Middle
[00:17:29] Middle East correspondent Yolande Yolande Knell, who's in Jerusalem. Jerusalem. What are the reasons Yolande
[00:17:33] Yolande have been given for Mr Abbas
[00:17:34] Abbas not being allowed in? Well.
[00:17:39] Well. The Trump administration accuses accuses the Palestinian Authority
[00:17:41] Authority and the Palestine Liberation Liberation Organisation these two
[00:17:44] two internationally recognised bodies
[00:17:46] bodies that represent the Palestinian Palestinian people of glorifying
[00:17:50] glorifying terrorism, saying that that they have failed to carry out
[00:17:54] out promised reforms. And it accuses accuses them, too, of what it describes
[00:17:57] describes as internationalising the
[00:18:00] the conflict with Israel by going
[00:18:02] going to the International Criminal Criminal Court and the International International Court of Justice, for
[00:18:06] for example. Now we've not had a
[00:18:09] a new Palestinian response to all
[00:18:11] all of this, not an official one,
[00:18:14] one, but what was said previously previously when the Palestinians
[00:18:17] Palestinians were accused of taking
[00:18:20] taking these unilateral steps is is they said, well, you know, years
[00:18:23] years of on and off talks brokered
[00:18:25] brokered by the US between the PLO
[00:18:29] PLO and Israel have failed to end end Israeli occupation, have failed
[00:18:32] failed to deliver on this promise
[00:18:34] promise of a Palestinian state. And And that's why they have taken other
[00:18:38] other diplomatic steps. Yolande in
[00:18:40] in Gaza. What is the latest on that that building collapse that killed
[00:18:44] killed a number of people on Wednesday?
[00:18:49] Wednesday? So according to the local
[00:18:50] local authorities, it's now 21 people,
[00:18:53] people, including 12 children and and five women who were among those
[00:18:57] those killed, their bodies having having been recovered from the rubble
[00:19:00] rubble of that six storey building building that collapsed in the early
[00:19:03] early hours of yesterday morning
[00:19:06] morning with some 45 people taken
[00:19:08] taken to hospital for medical treatment.
[00:19:11] treatment. On top of that, and we've we've been looking at the latest
[00:19:14] latest footage coming from the scene
[00:19:17] scene with just one excavator still still working there and some relatives
[00:19:21] relatives of those who have been been injured coming to collect clothes
[00:19:25] clothes and belongings, what they
[00:19:26] they could try to find in the rubble.
[00:19:29] rubble. But this event has really
[00:19:32] really underlined the real dangers dangers that there are for Palestinians.
[00:19:35] Palestinians. Many people have been
[00:19:37] been complaining in recent months months that there is not a suitable
[00:19:41] suitable shelter, not new tents coming coming in, that they were resorting
[00:19:44] resorting to going into these unsafe
[00:19:47] unsafe buildings so that they could
[00:19:49] could take some shelter from the the elements with their families.
[00:19:52] families. And we've had the UN flagging
[00:19:54] flagging up that there are about
[00:19:56] about 400 buildings across the Gaza
[00:19:58] Gaza Strip, which are really sort
[00:20:01] sort of at high risk of collapse, collapse, the same as this one, and
[00:20:04] and that there are families living living in many of those locations.
[00:20:07] locations. And so the UN has come come out saying that the tragedy
[00:20:11] tragedy underscores the grave risks. risks. This is a local UN official
[00:20:14] official responsible for humanitarian humanitarian co-ordination and saying
[00:20:18] saying that there is an urgent need need now for safer alternatives. alternatives. They're calling for
[00:20:21] for the Israeli authorities to work work with humanitarian agencies to
[00:20:25] to allow more suitable shelters into
[00:20:27] into Gaza. OK. Thank you very much.
[00:20:29] much. Yolande Knell in Jerusalem.
[00:20:32] Jerusalem. 117. That is the age of
[00:20:36] of Ethel Caterham, the world's oldest
[00:20:38] oldest person who lives in Surrey, Surrey, not far from London. Ethel
[00:20:41] Ethel is also the oldest British
[00:20:43] British person in recorded history. history. Born in Edwardian times,
[00:20:47] times, the oldest living person title title is forever changing and now
[00:20:50] now these very senior citizens have have become the subject of a documentary
[00:20:54] documentary put together by a New New York based filmmaker. Talking
[00:20:58] Talking Movies Tom Brook went to
[00:20:59] to meet him. I know this might sound
[00:21:04] sound weird, but I've been obsessed obsessed with the oldest person in
[00:21:07] in the world for years. Meet adventurous,
[00:21:12] adventurous, Brooklyn based, Oscar Oscar nominated filmmaker Sam Green.
[00:21:16] Green. Since 2015, he's been travelling travelling the world, chronicling
[00:21:19] chronicling the forever changing changing holders of the title of
[00:21:22] of oldest person in the world. It's
[00:21:25] It's survey has included Kane Tanaka Tanaka in Japan, who held the title
[00:21:28] title for four years. And then there's
[00:21:30] there's the oldest person ever Jeanne
[00:21:32] Jeanne Louise Calment, who when she
[00:21:35] she died in 1997, was 122 years old.
[00:21:37] old. In her later years she recorded recorded a rap album. The thing I
[00:21:41] I liked about the film Sam Green's Green's investigation of these very
[00:21:44] very senior citizens has become a
[00:21:46] a lifelong project. A documentary documentary based on his survey so
[00:21:49] so far has just been released. His
[00:21:51] His long been fascinated by why the
[00:21:54] the news media and the public are
[00:21:56] are so interested in the title holder holder of the oldest person in the
[00:21:59] the world. To this day, I still don't
[00:22:02] don't fully understand it. Is this
[00:22:04] this a fear of death? Is this a fear
[00:22:07] fear of fate or a you know, one of
[00:22:09] of those things like with the car
[00:22:11] car crash where you can't look away away but you don't want to look at
[00:22:15] at it? In making his documentary, documentary, Sam Green found there
[00:22:19] there was nearly always a desire desire on the part of others to find
[00:22:21] find out if there's a secret to longevity.
[00:22:24] longevity. The elderly people, he he observed, had all kinds of answers
[00:22:27] answers for why they'd led a long long life. One woman stated she'd
[00:22:30] she'd live for a long time because because she'd stayed away from men.
[00:22:34] men. She also said her secret was was eating three raw eggs a day.
[00:22:37] day. Two, you know, so it's like like the media descends on these
[00:22:41] these people. Everybody asks them them what their secret is and they
[00:22:44] they say something and everybody everybody runs with that. This documentary
[00:22:48] documentary often shows that other other people, the outside world is
[00:22:51] is often much more intrigued by the the oldest person in the world than
[00:22:55] than the subjects who hold that title. title. But this film isn't just about
[00:22:59] about the very old. It's also about about life and death and events in
[00:23:03] in the filmmaker's own life the birth
[00:23:04] birth of a son and his own confrontation
[00:23:07] confrontation with a life threatening threatening illness. These things
[00:23:10] things started to creep into the the movie, so over time it becomes
[00:23:13] becomes a larger meditation, I hope,
[00:23:16] hope, about time and the mysteries mysteries of being alive and fate
[00:23:19] fate and all these big questions
[00:23:22] questions that we ask ourselves.
[00:23:25] ourselves. The last person I interviewed, interviewed, a Spanish woman named
[00:23:28] named Maria Branyas, she was very very funny. She even was making fun
[00:23:32] fun of me, which I love. But in.
[00:23:34] in. At a moment in the interview
[00:23:36] interview she said, you are young. young. What else? I was jobless.
[00:23:40] jobless. Now is the time to do good
[00:23:42] good works. But she was saying is
[00:23:44] is you're young and you have time
[00:23:46] time so use it. And I think that's
[00:23:49] that's a beautiful thing to appreciate.
[00:23:55] appreciate. Over the last ten years, years, Sam Green has met many of of those who have held the title
[00:23:58] title of oldest person in the world. world. But there's been one holdout
[00:24:02] holdout the current title holder, holder, 117-year-old Ethel Caterham,
[00:24:06] Caterham, who lives in Surrey just just outside London. She was born
[00:24:10] born in Edwardian times. She is the
[00:24:13] the first person in ten years who
[00:24:16] who has rebuffed my overtures. But
[00:24:18] But she did let King Charles visit visit her, didn't she? When I saw
[00:24:21] saw a video of her in King Charles
[00:24:25] Charles and I thought, Charles, not
[00:24:28] not me, you know she's British. She's
[00:24:30] She's the last Edwardian. So I guess guess she feels some allegiance to
[00:24:33] to the King. But you know, come on. on. I've been doing this for ten
[00:24:36] ten years. Even though this documentary documentary focuses on the very old
[00:24:40] old and very fragile, it makes the the point that there is much to learn
[00:24:44] learn from observing them and from from the filmmaker himself about
[00:24:47] about what it means to live a thoughtful
[00:24:49] thoughtful life. It is an unexpectedly
[00:24:52] unexpectedly life affirming film.
[00:24:55] film. Tom Brook, BBC News New York.
[00:24:59] York. Now some sports news now. Chelsea Chelsea chairman Todd Boehly and
[00:25:02] and director Mark Walter have sold sold their stakes in the Premier
[00:25:04] Premier League side Chelsea to majority majority owner Clearlake Capital,
[00:25:08] Capital, which has assumed full control. control. The American billionaires
[00:25:12] billionaires were two of the investors investors who partnered with Clearlake
[00:25:15] Clearlake to buy Chelsea from Roman
[00:25:18] Roman Abramovich for £2.5 billion billion in May 2022. Chelsea finished
[00:25:22] finished 10th in the Premier League
[00:25:24] League last season and hired Xavi
[00:25:27] Xavi Alonso as their new manager. manager. Everton had a couple of
[00:25:31] of world leaders in the crowd for for their match against wolves last
[00:25:33] last night. Andy Burnham was joined
[00:25:35] joined by the Canadian Prime Minister, Minister, Mark Carney, to watch the
[00:25:39] the game. Mr Burnham says he's been
[00:25:41] been a lifelong Everton fan, while while Mr Carney said his fandom for
[00:25:45] for the club grew while living in
[00:25:47] in Britain during a seven year stint stint as Bank of England governor.
[00:25:51] governor. In the match itself, Everton
[00:25:54] Everton won 1-0. There is lots more
[00:25:57] more on all our stories on the BBC BBC News website and app. I'll be
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