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[00:00:15] MUSIC These These are the latest headlines from
[00:00:17] from BBC News. King Charles warns warns of the existential dangers
[00:00:21] dangers of AI systems falling into into the wrong hands as he addresses
[00:00:24] addresses tech leaders at a summit summit in Scotland. The Duke of Sussex
[00:00:28] Sussex has been seen for the first first time in public since returning returning to the UK, when he arrived
[00:00:31] arrived at an award ceremony for for the Invictus Games. More allegations
[00:00:35] allegations from Earl Spencer and and the latest extract from his book
[00:00:38] book on Princess Diana. He claims claims then Prince Charles sounded
[00:00:41] sounded giddily elated on the night night Princess Diana died. South
[00:00:45] South African police say they found found a ninth woman killed near Johannesburg
[00:00:48] Johannesburg in a spate of murders, murders, causing fear and outrage
[00:00:51] outrage in the country. Hope for for thousands of women with incurable
[00:00:55] incurable breast cancer as a new new life extending drug becomes available
[00:00:58] available on the NHS. Two years after
[00:01:00] after it was deemed too expensive.
[00:01:08] expensive. Welcome back. Let's focus focus now on one of the big global
[00:01:11] global stories of the day. You heard heard it there in those headlines headlines news that a ninth woman's
[00:01:15] woman's body has been found in South South Africa as police investigate
[00:01:18] investigate a string of deaths. My My colleague Matthew Amroliwala has
[00:01:21] has been looking at fears the murder murder could be the work of a serial
[00:01:25] serial killer. A ninth body has been
[00:01:29] been discovered in Dawn Park here here in Ekurhuleni. She was found
[00:01:33] found partially naked with her throat throat cut. Raising fears of a potential
[00:01:37] potential serial killer on the loose. loose. We are even scared now to
[00:01:40] to come out of your house. You are are scared to go to the shop. You You are scared to go anywhere. We
[00:01:44] We are no longer free. Women have have been urged not to walk or run
[00:01:47] run alone and avoid secluded spaces. spaces. UN data puts South Africa's
[00:01:51] Africa's femicide rate at 12.2 women
[00:01:55] women per 100,000, nearly six times times the global average. It is not
[00:01:59] not OK that you'll be afraid to just
[00:02:01] just take a walk. A spate of killings
[00:02:08] killings in South Africa has caused caused fear and outrage. The bodies
[00:02:12] bodies of nine women have been found
[00:02:15] found in two months, all partially partially or fully naked. Well, over
[00:02:18] over the next ten minutes or so we'll we'll be asking could the murders
[00:02:22] murders have been committed by a a serial killer? And look at the
[00:02:25] the scale of gender based violence violence in South Africa. Well, the
[00:02:28] the first victim was found in mid-July,
[00:02:31] mid-July, the second in late August. August. The others all discovered
[00:02:35] discovered this month east of Johannesburg.
[00:02:36] Johannesburg. The latest had her
[00:02:39] her throat cut. The area they were
[00:02:41] were all found in was the Ekurhuleni Ekurhuleni area, which is a major
[00:02:45] major urban area in Gauteng province.
[00:02:47] province. Our South Africa correspondent correspondent Nomsa Maseko reports
[00:02:50] reports from the scene of that latest latest discovery. The woman whose
[00:02:54] whose body was found here earlier earlier is believed to be in her
[00:02:57] her 30s. She was found partially partially naked with her throat cut.
[00:03:01] cut. Police believe she was murdered murdered elsewhere and that her body
[00:03:05] body was deliberately dumped here here near a residential area so that
[00:03:08] that her body could be found. The The recent spate of killings has
[00:03:12] has sparked public outrage and fear, fear, raising new questions about
[00:03:16] about the scale of gender based violence violence in South Africa. There's
[00:03:19] There's widespread speculation that that the recent murders have been
[00:03:22] been committed by a serial killer, killer, but police have not confirmed
[00:03:26] confirmed this yet. The acting police police commissioner has said investigators
[00:03:30] investigators are following up on on all possible leads. Women have
[00:03:33] have been urged not to walk or run
[00:03:35] run alone and avoid secluded spaces.
[00:03:38] spaces. Officials have said the warnings warnings are not about restricting
[00:03:41] restricting the freedom of women women to move, exercise or live their
[00:03:45] their lives, but that it's all about about taking reasonable precautions
[00:03:49] precautions while police continue continue with their investigations.
[00:03:52] investigations. Well, there's widespread widespread speculation that the murders murders have been committed by a
[00:03:56] a serial killer, but police have
[00:03:58] have not confirmed that. We are still
[00:04:00] still at that stage that we need
[00:04:03] need to connect the dots with the
[00:04:06] the information that is currently currently at hand, just to see if
[00:04:10] if there is any connection that can can be established. We are looking
[00:04:14] looking at correlation. We are looking looking at the linkage. We are looking
[00:04:17] looking at commonalities. We are are looking at the pattern. So it
[00:04:20] it is that process that we are undertaking
[00:04:22] undertaking to see if these cases
[00:04:24] cases are related or it's single
[00:04:28] single individual that is operating. operating. But by the look of things
[00:04:31] things you have already have one
[00:04:33] one person arrested on one matter.
[00:04:36] matter. Well, with more on the police
[00:04:38] police investigation and those fears fears about a serial killer, here's
[00:04:42] here's Nomsa again. All nine bodies
[00:04:43] bodies were found here in the Ekurhuleni Ekurhuleni municipality in the east
[00:04:47] east of Johannesburg. Over the last last two months, raising concerns
[00:04:51] concerns that they may have been been carried out by the same person
[00:04:55] person or people. Police have previously previously said some similarities
[00:04:58] similarities in the killings of the the first eight were concerning,
[00:05:01] concerning, but stopped short of of saying that the murders could
[00:05:04] could be linked. But what is certain,
[00:05:07] certain, though, is that women here here in South Africa fear for their
[00:05:11] their lives. Well, let's hear from from some of those women who say
[00:05:14] say they no longer feel safe. I'm
[00:05:16] I'm scared. I'm angry. I'm upset.
[00:05:18] upset. I'm. I'm nervous. I am everything.
[00:05:21] everything. I'm shattered. This is
[00:05:24] is bad in the a country where there
[00:05:28] there is democracy. But we experience. experience. We are faced with this
[00:05:31] this challenge of murdering women.
[00:05:33] women. We are parents. We are young.
[00:05:36] young. We we like. We are even scared scared now to come out of your house.
[00:05:40] house. You are scared to go to the the shop. You are scared to go anywhere.
[00:05:42] anywhere. We are no longer free in in the country. We're supposed to
[00:05:45] to be free and to be safe as women.
[00:05:47] women. It is not OK that you'll be
[00:05:50] be afraid to go to the shop. It is
[00:05:52] is not OK that you'll be afraid to
[00:05:54] to go in gym. It is not OK that you'll
[00:05:56] you'll be afraid to just take a walk.
[00:05:58] walk. Well, to give you a sense of of the shock in the local community,
[00:06:02] community, I want to just show you you the front page of the star, one
[00:06:05] one of the main newspapers in the
[00:06:07] the area. It printed one word enough
[00:06:10] enough in bright red on a black page
[00:06:12] page in what the editorial said was was deliberately stark. It went on
[00:06:16] on to say that the reason they made made the decision was to stand against
[00:06:20] against the relentless killing of
[00:06:21] of women in South Africa. Well, South
[00:06:24] South Africa's President Cyril Ramaphosa, Ramaphosa, issued a statement promising
[00:06:28] promising everything will be done done to find the killers. These incidents
[00:06:32] incidents are causing fear and uncertainty uncertainty in our communities and
[00:06:35] and especially among women. I have have directed that these cases be
[00:06:38] be prioritised and that no stone stone be left unturned in bringing
[00:06:41] bringing those responsible to justice. justice. Well, listen now to South
[00:06:45] South African Government Minister Minister for women who joined families
[00:06:49] families and community members in in remembering those who have lost
[00:06:52] lost their lives. If you are a Minister
[00:06:55] Minister of women and nine women
[00:06:58] women are killed, it kills you. It
[00:07:01] It kills you. You. You have. You
[00:07:03] You can't sleep at night because
[00:07:07] because you have a responsibility responsibility to ensure that women women of South Africa are safe and
[00:07:11] and happy. And when that happened
[00:07:13] happened doesn't happen. It kills kills everything in you. As a minister,
[00:07:17] minister, but as a woman as well.
[00:07:19] well. The killings have raised questions questions about the scale of gender
[00:07:22] gender based violence in South Africa.
[00:07:25] Africa. So how bad is it? Will Sabrina Sabrina Walter is founder of women
[00:07:29] women for Change in South Africa,
[00:07:30] Africa, who last year mobilised nationwide
[00:07:33] nationwide shutdown to honour victims victims of gender based violence
[00:07:36] violence and femicide. In South Africa,
[00:07:39] Africa, is incredibly strong. Laws
[00:07:41] Laws and policies in regards to gender gender based violence and femicide.
[00:07:45] femicide. We actually have a national national strategic response plan
[00:07:49] plan that came in, in 2020. However,
[00:07:52] However, we are working on the ground ground and the front lines every
[00:07:55] every single day. Speaking to survivors
[00:07:58] survivors and families of the women women who have been lost and they
[00:08:01] they don't see a difference this this moment, it's a very heavy moment
[00:08:04] moment for the women in South Africa
[00:08:07] Africa and for the men and for the
[00:08:08] the children. I always say it femicide femicide and gender based violence
[00:08:12] violence affect everyone. It affects
[00:08:14] affects businesses, it affects women, women, obviously, but it affects
[00:08:17] affects also the men and the children children in this country. So women
[00:08:21] women are in absolute fear. But again,
[00:08:23] again, this is nothing new. We had
[00:08:27] had 5578 women being killed in 2020,
[00:08:30] 2020, 2024. And we live with this this feeling every single day. Well,
[00:08:34] Well, gender based violence in South South Africa is nearly six times
[00:08:38] times the global average. But how how does it compare with the rest
[00:08:41] rest of the world? Our global population population correspondent Stephanie
[00:08:44] Stephanie Hegarty has been looking looking at the numbers. So the rate
[00:08:47] rate of. Female homicide in South South Africa is one of the highest
[00:08:50] highest in the world. It's 12.2 per per 100,000 of the population. So
[00:08:54] So if you put that into perspective, perspective, take a city like London
[00:08:58] London where the population is just just over 9 million. If the homicide homicide the female homicide rate
[00:09:02] rate in London was 12.2, that would
[00:09:05] would mean 1100 women or more were were killed every year, whereas we
[00:09:08] we know the number in London in 2024
[00:09:10] 2024 was 22. So that's a massive
[00:09:12] massive difference. And to put this this into a global perspective, if
[00:09:15] if you look at the latest figures figures from the UN Office of Drugs
[00:09:19] Drugs and Crime, where South Africa's Africa's rate of female homicide
[00:09:22] homicide is 12.2, a country like
[00:09:24] like the US is much lower. It's 2.6.
[00:09:28] 2.6. India is 2.4, and many countries countries in Europe are well below
[00:09:31] below one. So South Africa is really really ranking very high compared
[00:09:34] compared to all of those countries. countries. There are some places places that at the moment are even
[00:09:38] even higher. Haiti has a female homicide
[00:09:41] homicide rate of 14 per 100,000 of
[00:09:44] of the population. And the Guyana
[00:09:46] Guyana and country on the Caribbean
[00:09:49] Caribbean coast is around 11. So So but still South Africa ranking
[00:09:52] ranking very high there. The places places that rank the lowest in these
[00:09:56] these UN statistics, Singapore is is lowest and then Indonesia. But
[00:09:59] But it's worth bearing in mind that that there are lots of places we
[00:10:01] we just don't have data for China, China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, many parts
[00:10:05] parts of South East Asia don't appear
[00:10:08] appear in these statistics. And also also worth remembering is these really
[00:10:12] really rely on local data being supplied supplied by hospitals, by police
[00:10:15] police and by court services. And And there are lots of places where
[00:10:18] where that information just isn't isn't being gathered. Well. And that's
[00:10:22] that's all you need to know about
[00:10:23] about the spate of murders in South South Africa.
[00:11:31] Gdansk. Join me, Julie Lynn, for for discovering the world's table.
[00:11:33] table. Poland on BBC News. From today,
[00:11:41] today, patients in England with a a type of incurable breast cancer
[00:11:44] cancer will be able to get a life life extending drug on the NHS. Two
[00:11:48] Two years ago it was rejected as as not good value for money. But
[00:11:51] But that decision has been reversed reversed largely because of a wider
[00:11:54] wider trade deal with the United United States. Our health correspondent
[00:11:57] correspondent Catherine Burns has has been meeting some of those women.
[00:11:59] women. It could help. Oh, my God.
[00:12:07] God. When? What? How? This is the
[00:12:10] the moment when Kate Wills found found out she will be able to have
[00:12:13] have a drug that could keep her alive
[00:12:15] alive for longer. I am. I can't really
[00:12:19] really believe it. You know, I just just said to you. I've got a scan
[00:12:23] scan results. I have another scan scan in two weeks that may show that
[00:12:27] that I need this drug and I haven't
[00:12:33] haven't really dared to think about
[00:12:35] about what would happen. I am I can't
[00:12:41] can't believe it. Kate's a busy woman
[00:12:44] woman keeping fit, working and being being with her family. She's also
[00:12:48] also living with secondary breast breast cancer. It spread to her bones
[00:12:51] bones and lungs. We first met her
[00:12:54] her and her friend Jeannie almost almost two years ago. They wanted
[00:12:57] wanted a drug that could slow down
[00:12:59] down the progression of their cancer.
[00:13:01] cancer. Enhertu Jeannie was frustrated frustrated that she couldn't get
[00:13:05] get Enhertu the health advisory body. body. Nice had said it wasn't value
[00:13:08] value for money in England, Wales Wales and Northern Ireland followed
[00:13:12] followed that advice too. When we
[00:13:13] we first covered this story, patients
[00:13:16] patients in 19 countries in Europe,
[00:13:18] Europe, including Scotland, could
[00:13:20] could get Enhertu over time. That's
[00:13:23] That's gone up to 27. All along, along, Kate and others have kept
[00:13:26] kept fighting, including at this
[00:13:28] this protest in July. The empty shoes shoes were to represent women who
[00:13:32] who died before they could get Enhertu,
[00:13:34] Enhertu, including Jeannie, who died
[00:13:37] died in January. But from today, today, Enhertu will be available
[00:13:40] available on the NHS in England. England. So what's changed? We understand
[00:13:44] understand that drug companies haven't haven't particularly lowered their
[00:13:47] their prices and that this is actually actually the result of a trade deal
[00:13:50] deal with the USA, where the UK government government has agreed to spend 25%
[00:13:54] 25% more on medicines. Some of those those changes have just kicked in,
[00:13:57] in, which has tipped the balance. balance. Helen Knight is director
[00:14:01] director of medicines evaluation evaluation at Nice and says we know
[00:14:04] know this decision comes too late late for many families and our thoughts
[00:14:07] thoughts are with them today. Our Our role is important in ensuring
[00:14:11] ensuring NHS spending on new medicines medicines reflects the benefits they
[00:14:14] they deliver. Wales is going to make make Enhertu available soon, but
[00:14:18] but this decision doesn't automatically automatically apply in Northern Ireland.
[00:14:21] Ireland. Kate's first thought is is for friends she's lost, including
[00:14:25] including Jeannie, but she knows knows this decision could make all
[00:14:27] all the difference for her family.
[00:14:31] family. Catherine Burns, BBC News. News. Well, let's speak now to Jessica
[00:14:35] Jessica Duggan, who. Is currently currently undergoing treatment on on an Enhertu. Jessica, thank you
[00:14:38] you so much for joining us on. Thank Thank you for having me. No problem
[00:14:42] problem at all. So first of all, all, just tell me a little bit about
[00:14:45] about your story, about your diagnosis.
[00:14:48] diagnosis. Well, I was originally
[00:14:52] originally diagnosed in 2017 and and had surgery and we hope preventative
[00:14:56] preventative chemotherapy and radiotherapy. radiotherapy. And then five years
[00:14:59] years on hormone treatment, which which worked brilliantly. And I had
[00:15:02] had a lovely life with my young children.
[00:15:04] children. But unfortunately it returned
[00:15:07] returned in 2023 and metastasised. metastasised. So I've been on various
[00:15:11] various treatments since then, one one of which worked really well was
[00:15:13] was chemotherapy tablet called Capecitabine. Capecitabine. But unfortunately that's
[00:15:16] that's stopped working in September. September. So I have had a period
[00:15:20] period of a few months of all the
[00:15:24] the NHS treatments that were available
[00:15:26] available just weren't working, including
[00:15:29] including chemotherapies and a trial trial at the Marsden, which unfortunately unfortunately also didn't work. So
[00:15:33] So in that period of time, the cancer's
[00:15:36] cancer's progressed very, very quickly
[00:15:38] quickly and aggressively. And so so it was basically everywhere. And
[00:15:42] And unfortunately in July we got got told that with the treatments
[00:15:45] treatments available on the NHS,
[00:15:46] NHS, I had about six weeks to live.
[00:15:50] live. And so I inquired again about about Enhertu and said we thought
[00:15:53] thought we could crowdfund and the the doctors were actually very supportive.
[00:15:58] supportive. And so that's where we we are today is I've had four rounds
[00:16:02] rounds of Enhertu paid through crowdfunding
[00:16:05] crowdfunding and it's worked. The The fact that I'm even alive today today is testament of how brilliantly
[00:16:09] brilliantly it's worked for me. That That is amazing. And it just shows,
[00:16:12] shows, doesn't it, that it does work. work. How do you feel now that you're.
[00:16:15] you're. Yeah. How do you feel now now that you hear it's on the NHS
[00:16:19] NHS and you could potentially get get it on the NHS without having
[00:16:22] having to crowdfund. Yes. For myself
[00:16:25] myself personally, a huge sense of of relief because the crowdfunding
[00:16:28] crowdfunding pot is starting to run run dry. So it was a big dilemma
[00:16:31] dilemma of what do we do now? And
[00:16:34] And so yes, it's confirmed I can can have I literally have my trip
[00:16:38] trip last crowdfunded treatment today.
[00:16:41] today. And so it all felt the timing timing all felt very wonderful getting
[00:16:45] getting that news. So my next treatment
[00:16:47] treatment in three weeks will be
[00:16:49] be back on the NHS, which is just just fabulous and it takes huge pressure
[00:16:52] pressure off all my friends and family family as well as myself that we
[00:16:56] we can access this drug for as long long as it works without having to
[00:17:00] to worry about the financial burden burden of how to fund it. OK, well,
[00:17:03] well, Jessica, I'm so grateful to to you for coming on to the BBC and
[00:17:06] and talking to us about this, and
[00:17:07] and I wish you all the absolute very very best with the future as well.
[00:17:11] well. Thank you so much. Thank you,
[00:17:15] you, thank you. Now Robert Kraft,
[00:17:17] Kraft, the US stadium owner who had had pro-Palestinian rapper Macklemore
[00:17:21] Macklemore removed as Ed Sheeran's Sheeran's opening act, says Sheeran
[00:17:23] Sheeran asked him to match his own
[00:17:26] own $2 million donation for aid to to the region. This all follows the
[00:17:29] the news on Tuesday. If you remember remember that all of Ed Sheeran's
[00:17:32] Sheeran's support acts had quit his his Loek tour in solidarity with
[00:17:35] with fellow support act Macklemore
[00:17:38] Macklemore after he was dropped from
[00:17:40] from making for Making pro-Palestinian pro-Palestinian remarks on stage.
[00:17:43] stage. Now, when you think of the the world's best pizza, you probably
[00:17:46] probably having in your mind some some delicious Margherita marinara
[00:17:50] marinara enjoyed in the winding cobbled cobbled streets of Naples in Italy. Italy. But what if I told you the
[00:17:53] the best pizza in the world or the
[00:17:55] the best pizzeria can be found in
[00:17:58] in west London? A London restaurant restaurant aptly named Napoli on
[00:18:01] on the Road has been named the best
[00:18:03] best pizzeria on the planet at the
[00:18:07] the 50 Top Pizza World Awards 2026. 2026. It beat tough competition from
[00:18:09] from pizzerias in Italy, the United United States and indeed around the
[00:18:13] the world. Well, Napoli on the road road started as a three wheeled truck
[00:18:16] truck in London streets and now boasts boasts three restaurants in London
[00:18:20] London and an award as well, while while Chef Michele Pascarella, who
[00:18:24] who himself is originally from Naples Naples in Italy, joined me in the
[00:18:27] the studio and told me the secret secret to award winning pizzas. Because
[00:18:31] Because for three years in a row row we won Best Pizzeria in Europe
[00:18:34] Europe for that guide. And we always
[00:18:36] always see like journalists talking
[00:18:39] talking about is excluding Italy. Italy. But this time we won best
[00:18:43] best pizzeria in the world, including including Italy. So it means a lot
[00:18:46] lot for us. So what makes a good good pizza? Because I know there there are people out there who are
[00:18:50] are watching this who like a good good Domino's, other ones like a
[00:18:52] a nice deep pan pizza. But this pizza pizza which you very kindly brought
[00:18:55] brought in for me to scoff is a proper, proper, you know, Italian style pizza.
[00:18:59] pizza. What is it about this that that makes it so delicious? I'm going
[00:19:02] going to just try it while you talk. talk. This one is the is called recorded
[00:19:06] recorded Infanzia it's a is a pizza.
[00:19:08] pizza. In childhood. Yes. Right. Right. It's because when I was like
[00:19:11] like a child I was already working working in the hospitality. I usually
[00:19:15] usually wake up very late on Sunday Sunday Morning and my mum was slow
[00:19:18] slow cooked the ragu from the day day before we were going with my
[00:19:22] my brothers in the kitchen and as as a breakfast we dipped the bread
[00:19:25] bread in the big pot of ragu and and because it was too hot we was
[00:19:29] was adding some Parmigiano. That's That's why I did this pizza like
[00:19:33] like with ragu cooked for 12 hours hours and then Parmigiano Reggiano.
[00:19:37] Reggiano. It's just amazing. It's It's so delicious. Obviously other other pizzas are also available,
[00:19:40] available, but they're not award award winning are they? Ultimately Ultimately this one won the best
[00:19:44] best pizza in the world last year. year. This year we just won best
[00:19:47] best pizzeria in the world. Like
[00:19:49] Like overall, all the restaurant.
[00:19:54] restaurant. Well that was Michele Michele Pascarella and his delicious delicious pizza. The rest of the
[00:19:58] the pizzas disappeared though I don't don't know where it's gone. I think think it may have disappeared into
[00:20:01] into the newsroom. Who knows? Now Now we are six years out from the
[00:20:05] the 2032 Olympics in Brisbane, but but mark your diaries for the rowing
[00:20:08] rowing and canoeing events because because there could be a lot of world
[00:20:11] world records broken. Why? Well, Well, because the event is going
[00:20:14] going to be held in a river that's that's home to around 500 saltwater
[00:20:18] saltwater crocodiles. So the competitors competitors will be rowing extra
[00:20:22] extra fast and keeping one eye on
[00:20:24] on the murky waters behind them.
[00:20:26] them. Fitzroy River 600km north of of Brisbane, has been deemed fit
[00:20:29] fit for purpose despite objections objections from a number of countries.
[00:20:32] countries. Critics say the river river is prone to flooding, has erratic erratic currents and natural bends
[00:20:36] bends that could make the races unfair.
[00:20:49] unfair. MUSIC MUSIC I
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[00:20:57] oldest person in the world for years years MUSIC
[00:21:00] MUSIC . . Meet adventurous Brooklyn based,
[00:21:03] based, Oscar nominated filmmaker filmmaker Sam Green. Since 2015,
[00:21:07] 2015, he's been travelling the world, world, chronicling the forever changing
[00:21:11] changing holders of the title of of oldest person in the world. It's
[00:21:14] It's survey has included Kane Tanaka
[00:21:16] Tanaka in Japan, who held the title
[00:21:19] title for four years. And then there's there's the oldest person ever Jeanne
[00:21:23] Jeanne Louise Calment, who when she
[00:21:25] she died in 1997, was 122 years old.
[00:21:28] old. In her later years she recorded recorded a rap album, the thing I
[00:21:32] I liked about the film Sam Green's Green's investigation of these very
[00:21:35] very senior citizens has become a a lifelong project. A documentary
[00:21:38] documentary based on his survey so so far has just been released. He's
[00:21:42] He's long been fascinated by why
[00:21:43] why the news media and the public
[00:21:46] public are so interested in the title title holder of the oldest person
[00:21:50] person in the world. To this day, day, I still don't fully understand
[00:21:53] understand it. Is this a fear of
[00:21:55] of death? Is this a fear of fate
[00:21:59] fate or a you know, one of those
[00:22:00] those things like with the car crash
[00:22:03] crash where you can't look away but
[00:22:04] but you don't want to look at it. it. In making his documentary, Sam
[00:22:08] Sam Green found there was nearly nearly always a desire on the part
[00:22:11] part of others to find out if there's there's a secret to longevity. The
[00:22:15] The elderly people, he observed, observed, had all kinds of answers
[00:22:17] answers for why they'd led a long long life. One woman stated she'd
[00:22:21] she'd live for a long time because because she'd stayed away from men.
[00:22:24] men. She also said her secret was was eating three raw eggs a day.
[00:22:28] day. Two, you know, so it's like like the media descends on these
[00:22:31] these people. Everybody asks them them what their secret is and they
[00:22:35] they say something and everybody everybody runs with that. This documentary
[00:22:38] documentary often shows that other other people, the outside world is
[00:22:42] is often much more intrigued by the the oldest person in the world than
[00:22:45] than the subjects who hold that title. title. But this film isn't just about
[00:22:49] about the very old. It's also about about life and death and events in
[00:22:53] in the filmmaker's own life the birth birth of a son and his own confrontation
[00:22:57] confrontation with a life threatening threatening illness. These things
[00:23:00] things started to creep into the the movie, so over time it becomes
[00:23:03] becomes a larger meditation, I hope
[00:23:06] hope about time and the mysteries mysteries of being alive and fate
[00:23:09] fate and all these big questions
[00:23:12] questions that we ask ourselves.
[00:23:15] ourselves. The last person I interviewed, interviewed, a Spanish woman named
[00:23:18] named Maria Branyas, she was very very funny. She even was making fun
[00:23:22] fun of me, which I love. But in. in. At a moment in the interview
[00:23:26] interview she said, you are young.
[00:23:29] young. Jobless. Now is the time to
[00:23:32] to do good works. What she was saying
[00:23:34] saying is you're young and you have
[00:23:36] have time, so use it. And I think
[00:23:39] think that's a beautiful thing to
[00:23:43] to appreciate. Over the last ten
[00:23:46] ten years, Sam Green has met many many of those who have held the title
[00:23:49] title of oldest person in the world. world. But there's been one holdout
[00:23:53] holdout the current title holder, holder, 117-year-old Ethel Caterham,
[00:23:57] Caterham, who lives in Surrey just just outside London. She was born
[00:24:01] born in Edwardian times. She is the
[00:24:03] the first person in ten years who
[00:24:06] who has rebuffed my overtures. But But she did let King Charles visit
[00:24:10] visit her, didn't she? When I saw
[00:24:12] saw a video of her in King Charles
[00:24:15] Charles and I thought, Charles, not
[00:24:17] not me, you know she is British.
[00:24:19] British. She's the last Edwardian
[00:24:22] Edwardian so I guess she feels some some allegiance to the King. But
[00:24:24] But you know, come on. I've been been doing this for ten years. Even
[00:24:28] Even though this documentary focuses focuses on the very old and very
[00:24:31] very fragile, it makes the point point that there is much to learn
[00:24:34] learn from observing them and from from the filmmaker himself about
[00:24:37] about what it means to live a thoughtful
[00:24:39] thoughtful life. It is an unexpectedly
[00:24:42] unexpectedly life affirming film.
[00:28:30] MUSIC
[00:28:33] To me, trust is about presence. About
[00:28:37] About fostering relationships all
[00:28:39] all around the world over years. years. It's about patience, not rushing
[00:28:43] rushing to be the first. But striving striving to get it right. To get
[00:28:46] get to the truth. We can't just ask
[00:28:48] ask the questions. We have to question
[00:28:51] question the answers. Debate, debate, debate, debate. We have to create
[00:28:54] create a space for opposing voices voices to be heard. And challenged.
[00:28:57] challenged. We fight every day. To
[00:29:00] To earn your trust and we never take
[00:29:02] take it for granted. We capture the the story. Fact check the story.
[00:29:06] story. Break the story. We explore
[00:29:08] explore the story. So you can trust
[00:29:11] trust us to tell it.
[00:30:08] MUSIC
[00:30:13] Hello and welcome to The
[00:30:15] Context USA with me Caitriona Perry Perry in Washington. Me Christian
[00:30:19] Christian Fraser in London. Ahead Ahead this hour. King Charles gathers
[00:30:22] gathers the giants of artificial artificial intelligence at a summit
[00:30:26] summit here in the UK. Those in our
[00:30:29] our world who value deeply our humanity
[00:30:33] humanity and its vital moral component
[00:30:35] component are anxiously seeking your your reassurance that we will not
[00:30:39] not lose control of our destiny or
[00:30:42] or our souls. We're essentially seeding
[00:30:47] seeding a new silicon species, which which will no doubt compete with
[00:30:50] with us for resources, no matter matter how much it cares about humanity
[00:30:53] humanity and loves us. There are
[00:30:55] are some genuine concerns about how
[00:30:57] how safe these products are, but but there are also some other