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[00:00:13] Live from Washington. This is
[00:00:15] BBC News at a concert in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Ed Sheeran makes his
[00:00:19] his first remarks since his support
[00:00:20] support act was dropped over pro-Palestinian
[00:00:23] pro-Palestinian comments. And I'm I'm Carl Nasman live in Philadelphia,
[00:00:27] Philadelphia, where Ed Sheeran in in that stadium behind me has called
[00:00:30] called the situation in Gaza
[00:00:35] unjustifiable. The Houthis in Yemen Yemen claim responsibility for missile
[00:00:38] missile and drone attacks on the
[00:00:40] the Saudi capital and Nato welcomes
[00:00:43] welcomes a deal between the US and and Denmark, which President Trump
[00:00:46] Trump claims gives the US security
[00:00:49] security control over Greenland forever.
[00:01:00] forever. I'm Helena Humphrey good good to have you with us. As we begin
[00:01:03] begin with some breaking news in in Ed Sheeran's first concert since
[00:01:06] since his opening act, Macklemore Macklemore was dropped, he directly
[00:01:10] directly addressed the controversy controversy and his thoughts on the
[00:01:12] the Gaza war. Now Macklemore was
[00:01:14] was removed from the tour after making making pro-Palestinian remarks leading
[00:01:18] leading to other opening acts dropping dropping out in solidarity. Tonight,
[00:01:21] Tonight, Ed Sheeran said the decision decision to drop Macklemore was made
[00:01:25] made by his promoters and not by by him. Well, here's Ed Sheeran addressing
[00:01:29] addressing that controversy at the the start of his concert in Philadelphia.
[00:01:32] Philadelphia. It's OK if I say a
[00:01:34] a few words about this last week.
[00:01:40] week. I've used my music being criticised
[00:01:43] criticised and I'm always happy to to take that because I'm lucky. A
[00:01:46] A lot of you like my stuff and to to be honest, I'm surprised. I'm
[00:01:49] I'm not surprised that people don't. don't. You know it's normal. But
[00:01:53] But this week the criticism was about about something much more important
[00:01:56] important and I've had to take and and make difficult decisions and
[00:02:00] and I am making mistakes and I'm
[00:02:02] I'm so, so sorry. I don't want to to disappoint fans. And I've never
[00:02:06] never wanted to be an activist musician, musician, but this has put me in
[00:02:09] in the middle of an important and and passionate argument about freedom
[00:02:12] freedom of speech and the most complex
[00:02:14] complex political issue on the planet.
[00:02:24] planet. Our concerts have always
[00:02:25] always been a safe space for everyone everyone and that matters hugely
[00:02:29] hugely to me. Honouring my commitment
[00:02:31] commitment to my fans is also completely
[00:02:34] completely central to who I am, and
[00:02:36] and that is why I'm here tonight
[00:02:39] tonight on my own and continuing continuing my current tour. Well,
[00:02:42] Well, the singer went on to explain explain his views on the Israel-Gaza
[00:02:46] Israel-Gaza war. Take a listen. This
[00:02:49] This is a humanitarian issue and and I cannot hide how I feel about
[00:02:52] about it any more. What happened happened in Israel and at another
[00:02:56] another music festival on October October 7th was horrific and compounded
[00:02:59] compounded centuries of Jewish pain.
[00:03:02] pain. What is happening in Gaza is
[00:03:04] is a catastrophic and unjustifiable unjustifiable and disproportionate.
[00:03:08] disproportionate. My heart has been been broken by the scale of devastation
[00:03:11] devastation and loss of civilians
[00:03:15] civilians lives, of children's lives lives and the systemic injustice
[00:03:18] injustice we're seeing unfold in in the West Bank cannot be overlooked.
[00:03:22] overlooked. I am already speaking speaking to people across the spectrum
[00:03:24] spectrum to work out how to make make a contribution that helps victims
[00:03:28] victims of these terrible times and and listening and learning, because
[00:03:32] because I do not know enough. Well,
[00:03:33] Well, let's go live now to our correspondent
[00:03:37] correspondent in Philadelphia, Carl Carl Nasman Carl, you were there
[00:03:40] there at that concert. Talk us through
[00:03:41] through what Ed Sheeran had to say.
[00:03:45] say. Yeah, we were there. And really really in some of the first rows
[00:03:49] rows actually inside the stadium stadium there behind us, this was was really a remarkable moment. I
[00:03:52] I mean, everybody was wondering exactly exactly what might happen and how
[00:03:56] how Ed Sheeran could address some some of the controversy that we've we've seen really enveloping his
[00:03:59] his tour over the past few days. days. And this was the first moment,
[00:04:03] moment, literally Ed Sheeran walks walks out on stage and he launches
[00:04:06] launches into that speech that you you just heard. It appeared to be
[00:04:08] be a prepared speech, but he kind kind of addressed a lot of things
[00:04:11] things that people were wondering
[00:04:13] wondering about specifically his his stance on the situation in the
[00:04:17] the Middle East, and also what his
[00:04:20] his thought about Macklemore being being dropped from his tour. We heard
[00:04:22] heard the reporting that this was was due to potentially a pressure
[00:04:25] pressure campaign from some of the the owners of the stadiums on this
[00:04:29] this tour. He said he was deeply
[00:04:31] deeply concerned by the fact that
[00:04:33] that artists like Macklemore and
[00:04:35] and content of concerts could be be pre-screened by the owners of
[00:04:39] of these types of concert venues. venues. So I think that was also also a really important moment there.
[00:04:43] there. The reaction from the crowd, crowd, I think was generally very very positive. The biggest cheer
[00:04:47] cheer of the night was when he said said that he was committed to being
[00:04:50] being here tonight, to playing for for the people gathered inside that
[00:04:54] that stadium and to continuing his his tour. Obviously everybody here,
[00:04:57] here, you know, wanted to come, wanted wanted to see Ed Sheeran perform
[00:05:00] perform whether or not he had those those opening acts, whether Macklemore
[00:05:03] Macklemore was there or not. There There was also this interesting moment, moment, kind of an emotional moment
[00:05:07] moment in the middle of his concert concert where he addressed the crowd crowd and he said, look, I don't
[00:05:11] don't know if you've been looking looking at social media recently, recently, but there's been a lot
[00:05:14] lot of stuff out there specifically specifically about me. I was actually
[00:05:18] actually worried coming out here here today about the reception that
[00:05:22] that I would get from people in Philadelphia
[00:05:24] Philadelphia at this concert, and and that was a huge cheer from the
[00:05:28] the crowd there in support of Ed Ed Sheeran. So I think there was
[00:05:32] was some speculation. How would he he stand with his fans? Would there there be protests? What would the
[00:05:36] the reaction be? But that moment, moment, I think proving that Ed Sheeran
[00:05:39] Sheeran still has a lot of support, support, especially inside that stadium
[00:05:42] stadium behind us. And so Carl, how how did this concert unfold? Has
[00:05:45] Has it been a pared back performance performance so far? Did anyone join
[00:05:49] join him on stage? So as we said,
[00:05:55] said, his back-up band, the band band that usually joins him, you
[00:05:59] you know, for some of these songs, songs, plays some of the other instruments
[00:06:02] instruments they dropped out when when Macklemore was kind of dropped
[00:06:05] dropped from this tour. They left left in solidarity with him. So the
[00:06:08] the thinking would be would there there be anybody else on stage at at all? And in the beginning it looked
[00:06:12] looked like it would just be a one one man show. He's an incredible
[00:06:15] incredible artist. He's very talented talented at looping tracks, playing
[00:06:19] playing a riff, looping another one, one, using some vocalisation to create create this beautiful background
[00:06:23] background track that he then used used to sing over for many of his
[00:06:26] his songs. But then about through through halfway he was joined by
[00:06:28] by some other artists on stage. He He said they had about three days
[00:06:32] days to prepare to learn these songs songs and get up there. He said. said. The biggest concern that he
[00:06:35] he had was that people would pay pay tickets, they'd come to his concert
[00:06:39] concert and it wouldn't be the same, same, that he wouldn't be able to to perform some of the songs that
[00:06:42] that he otherwise had hoped to do. do. So in the middle of that concert,
[00:06:46] concert, he was joined by kind of of this impromptu band behind him,
[00:06:49] him, and they were able to play some some of his biggest hits. Carl, it's
[00:06:53] it's probably difficult to tell right right now, but will this be enough,
[00:06:56] enough, do you think? What do sense sense you get? Will his words tonight
[00:06:59] tonight be enough to limit some of of the damage that we've seen to
[00:07:03] to his reputation over the past week?
[00:07:06] week? Yeah, I think that is the question question going forward. And I think
[00:07:09] think some of those questions might might be answered next week because
[00:07:13] because he'll be performing inside inside Gillette Stadium that's just
[00:07:15] just outside of Boston and that is is the stadium that's owned by Robert
[00:07:19] Robert Kraft. And he's reportedly reportedly the owner who took offence
[00:07:22] offence to the comments made by Macklemore Macklemore and was reportedly the
[00:07:26] the one that really spearheaded this this pressure campaign to have Macklemore Macklemore dropped from the tour.
[00:07:30] tour. So we'll see what kind of reception reception he gets in that stadium
[00:07:33] stadium next week. But you know, know, I think a lot of fans here
[00:07:36] here and I think a lot of his fans fans who are concerned about the
[00:07:40] the situation in Gaza really wanted wanted to hear something from Ed
[00:07:42] Ed Sheeran. I think it was notable notable that the very first thing
[00:07:46] thing he did tonight was give this
[00:07:48] this two minute speech to his fans fans to try to address this head
[00:07:52] head on. So I think for many people people here tonight, this would be
[00:07:55] be enough. Carl Nasman they're reporting reporting from Philadelphia. Carl,
[00:07:58] Carl, thanks a lot. And of course
[00:08:01] course you can always find the very very latest on that story with that
[00:08:04] that concert still under way on the
[00:08:07] the BBC web page there. As our correspondents, correspondents, including Carl continue
[00:08:10] continue to follow the latest as
[00:08:13] as that unfolds. Now the Iran backed backed Houthis are claiming responsibility responsibility for drone and ballistic
[00:08:17] ballistic missile attacks on Saudi
[00:08:19] Saudi Arabia's capital Riyadh, marking marking a significant escalation.
[00:08:23] escalation. Smoke was seen rising rising from fuel tanks near Riyadh's
[00:08:27] Riyadh's international airport, where where flights were temporarily disrupted
[00:08:30] disrupted on Saturday. It's the first first time that the Yemen based Houthis
[00:08:32] Houthis have reached that far north
[00:08:36] north since the Iran war began. They They also attacked Saudi state oil
[00:08:39] oil as well as gas facilities at at Yanbu. That's on the Red Sea coast,
[00:08:43] coast, Houthi military spokesperson spokesperson called it retaliation
[00:08:46] retaliation for Saudi attacks on on Houthi forces in the Yemeni capital
[00:08:49] capital Sanaa. Well, for more than than a decade, the Houthis have been
[00:08:53] been fighting the Saudi backed government government for control of Yemen.
[00:08:56] Yemen. That conflict largely subsided subsided after a ceasefire was declared
[00:09:00] declared in 2022. But this year, year, the Houthis became involved
[00:09:04] involved in the wider US-Iran war
[00:09:06] war threatening international shipping shipping through the Bab al-Mandab
[00:09:10] al-Mandab Strait. Fatima Abo Alasrar Alasrar is a non-resident fellow
[00:09:12] fellow at the Arab Gulf States Institute Institute that's a non-partisan think
[00:09:15] think tank. She told me more about
[00:09:18] about the significance of these latest
[00:09:20] latest Houthi attacks. Well, this
[00:09:22] this is a huge escalation and I think
[00:09:26] think that the Saudis are not going
[00:09:31] going to take it. They're going to
[00:09:35] to respond harshly. Basically their
[00:09:39] their security is being tested. There.
[00:09:41] There. The Houthis are trying to
[00:09:44] to shatter that image of or the illusion illusion of deterrence that Saudi
[00:09:48] Saudi Arabia is trying to impose.
[00:09:52] impose. So this is going to be fairly
[00:09:55] fairly consequential. We've seen
[00:09:57] seen also Riyadh state previously
[00:10:00] previously that the Houthis attempted
[00:10:03] attempted to go into Mecca as well.
[00:10:05] well. So there's this continuous continuous escalation from the Houthis.
[00:10:08] Houthis. They are choosing violence
[00:10:11] violence in this scenario. And part part of this is to fulfil their strategy,
[00:10:15] strategy, which is a two part strategy.
[00:10:18] strategy. The first is to impose
[00:10:21] impose white big costs on the Saudi
[00:10:25] Saudi kingdom get them to back off
[00:10:27] off their support of the internationally internationally recognised government
[00:10:30] government of Yemen. And the second
[00:10:34] second is to reach some kind of an
[00:10:38] an agreement that would favour the
[00:10:39] the Houthis. Even a short-term agreement
[00:10:43] agreement and help them get out of of the economic squeeze that they
[00:10:47] they are in at the moment. So they're
[00:10:50] they're going to continue imposing
[00:10:55] imposing this kind of both economic, economic, political and even now
[00:10:58] now psychological costs on the kingdom.
[00:11:01] kingdom. So how do you think Saudi
[00:11:03] Saudi Arabia might respond? Yeah,
[00:11:06] Yeah, I'm concerned Saudi Arabia
[00:11:10] Arabia have attempted everything
[00:11:13] everything to restrict and contain contain the Houthi. And we haven't
[00:11:17] haven't seen this group contained contained the United States have
[00:11:19] have tried that last year as well
[00:11:23] well through the Operation Rough Rough Rider. Nothing has happened.
[00:11:26] happened. As a consequence, the Houthis
[00:11:30] Houthis continue to have the upper upper hand through asymmetric use
[00:11:33] use of force. They don't want to
[00:11:36] to win lands. It's not that they
[00:11:38] they have that their aim is not to
[00:11:41] to win in a conventional power, but
[00:11:43] but to impose costs and to outlast
[00:11:46] outlast their adversaries, adversaries
[00:11:48] adversaries in wars of attrition. attrition. That's basically what
[00:11:52] what they want, they want to impose
[00:11:54] impose these economic costs in order order for them to find leverage at
[00:11:58] at any type of negotiations or settlement.
[00:12:01] settlement. What do you think it it would take for the Houthis to
[00:12:04] to stop? So far, the US has declined
[00:12:09] declined to carry out strikes on on the Houthis at the request of
[00:12:13] of the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed Mohammed bin Salman. Do you think
[00:12:15] think that might have to be revisited
[00:12:17] revisited at a later date? I mean,
[00:12:21] mean, the Saudis are trying to find
[00:12:23] find their own security arrangements. arrangements. They have one with
[00:12:27] with Turkey and Pakistan through through the Mecca Agreement and that
[00:12:31] that yet has to be tested. But the
[00:12:34] the Saudis have learned that if they
[00:12:37] they continue to placate the Houthis,
[00:12:40] Houthis, it doesn't necessarily translate translate into long-term security
[00:12:42] security at all for them. As we've we've seen the past three years,
[00:12:46] years, the Saudis and the Houthis
[00:12:50] Houthis had some informal agreements.
[00:12:52] agreements. The Saudis have facilitated
[00:12:55] facilitated so much in terms of,
[00:12:57] of, you know, did not attack the
[00:13:01] the Houthis and help them at times
[00:13:02] times at the cost of Yemen's government,
[00:13:05] government, that the Saudis are backing. backing. So it has been a complicated
[00:13:09] complicated relationship. But even
[00:13:11] even regardless of that, the Saudis
[00:13:14] Saudis continue to bear the brunt
[00:13:18] brunt of this I would say it's the
[00:13:20] the fallout really from the Tehran
[00:13:24] Tehran US war because you can't decouple
[00:13:26] decouple the Houthis from Iran. Briefly, Briefly, what does all of this mean
[00:13:30] mean for the Yemeni people have also also seen reports of people fleeing
[00:13:33] fleeing across. What is the dangerous dangerous Bab al-Mandab Strait to
[00:13:37] to Djibouti. And the humanitarian
[00:13:40] humanitarian crisis is going to mount.
[00:13:42] mount. We have over 100,000 people people displaced. That's just the
[00:13:46] the size of a small city in the United
[00:13:48] United States. Like, you know, maybe
[00:13:50] maybe Berkeley, California, so that
[00:13:53] that that the population is is going going to continue to suffer. They're
[00:13:57] They're displaced. They don't want
[00:13:59] want to be under the control of the the Iran backed Houthis. And they
[00:14:03] they understand that if they live
[00:14:04] live in these areas, they might be be conscripted into the wider war
[00:14:09] war by the Houthi militia. Nato is
[00:14:11] is welcoming a new deal between the
[00:14:14] the US and Denmark over Greenland, Greenland, which President Trump
[00:14:16] Trump claims gives the US security security control of the territory
[00:14:20] territory forever. While the exact exact terms haven't yet been made
[00:14:23] made public, Denmark's foreign minister minister said the agreement respects
[00:14:26] respects its red lines and strengthens strengthens security in the Arctic
[00:14:30] Arctic and North Atlantic. Greenland Greenland is a mineral rich, semi-autonomous
[00:14:34] semi-autonomous Danish territory territory whose strategic location
[00:14:37] location has drawn growing US attention. attention. President Trump has repeatedly
[00:14:40] repeatedly warned that the island island is vulnerable to Russia and
[00:14:43] and China. On Saturday, Nato said said that the Arctic is vital to
[00:14:47] to the alliance's collective security. security. Our correspondent Sean
[00:14:51] Sean Dilley has the latest. It's It's more than a thousand miles from
[00:14:54] from America's coastline. But the the US believes Greenland is critical
[00:14:58] critical for its national security. security. Last night, President Trump
[00:15:01] Trump said a deal had been done that
[00:15:03] that gives the United States permanent permanent control over security of
[00:15:06] of Greenland at no cost to the US..
[00:15:09] US.. The President's language is is strikingly different to December,
[00:15:12] December, when he threatened to annexe annexe the mineral rich island. We
[00:15:15] We need Greenland for national security. security. And if you take a look
[00:15:19] look at Greenland, you look up and and down the coast you have Russian
[00:15:21] Russian and Chinese ships all over over the place. We need it for national
[00:15:25] national security. We have to have
[00:15:27] have it. That caused protests by
[00:15:31] by Greenland's residents and an angry angry reaction from politicians in
[00:15:35] in Denmark, which has sovereignty sovereignty over the semi-autonomous
[00:15:37] semi-autonomous island. Since 1951, 1951, US troops have been based in
[00:15:41] in Greenland as part of a defence
[00:15:43] defence pact. President Trump has has long argued that it would be
[00:15:47] be better for the land to be part part of the US., even unsuccessfully
[00:15:50] unsuccessfully offering to buy the the island during his first term
[00:15:53] term in office. Now, though, it seems seems previous tensions have been
[00:15:57] been parked. Jason, of course, I
[00:15:59] I am pleased that we now have a deal deal that is about to be within reach.
[00:16:03] reach. It's taking its time and all all the talk that's been around all
[00:16:06] all the way through in the media, media, but it's also work that's
[00:16:09] that's been going since the month month of January. I'm pleased that
[00:16:12] that we finally have an end product
[00:16:14] product within reach. It's a
[00:16:18] deal. Then that appears to be supported supported in Denmark and Greenland, Greenland, but a deal that feels
[00:16:21] feels important for Washington to. to. President Trump has argued that
[00:16:25] that Greenland is strategically important important for its defence. Sitting
[00:16:28] Sitting between the US and both China
[00:16:30] China and Russia in Greenland's capital,
[00:16:32] capital, the deal has met with a
[00:16:34] a mixed reception. Secretary at the
[00:16:37] the Trump. I can just say that Trump
[00:16:39] Trump needs to stay far, far away away from Greenland. He shouldn't
[00:16:43] shouldn't count on our children and and grandchildren to be Americans Americans in the future. They won't
[00:16:47] won't be. He needs to stay away.
[00:16:49] away. It's fine for me because Denmark
[00:16:52] Denmark is too small a country. It
[00:16:54] It can't defend itself when it's
[00:16:56] it's such a small country. I'm pretty
[00:16:59] pretty confident that our politicians
[00:17:01] politicians are again made a fire
[00:17:03] fire has made a good deal for the the country. The text of the proposed
[00:17:07] proposed deal has not been published. published. It's expected to be signed
[00:17:10] signed next week, but both Greenland Greenland and Denmark say there's
[00:17:13] there's a real prospect of a deal deal that could strengthen security
[00:17:17] security for everyone. Sean Dilley
[00:17:18] Dilley BBC News. A new study is under
[00:17:21] under way in the Democratic Republic Republic of Congo to see whether whether an existing Ebola vaccine
[00:17:24] vaccine can help fight the latest latest outbreak. The operation is
[00:17:28] is backed by the World Health Organization Organization and Doctors Without
[00:17:32] Without Borders. It'll give the Ebola
[00:17:36] Ebola vaccine to 20,000 frontline frontline health workers. Now this
[00:17:39] this outbreak was caused by a different different strain called Bundibugyo,
[00:17:42] Bundibugyo, for which there's currently currently no approved vaccine or
[00:17:45] or treatment, although there is a a longer term vaccine in development
[00:17:48] development and on the ground, medical medical charities are warning against
[00:17:51] against premature optimism after after the DR Congo government claimed
[00:17:55] claimed that the outbreak passed passed its peak. More than 3000 people
[00:17:59] people have died from the virus, virus, with more than 7000 confirmed
[00:18:03] confirmed cases. That's nearly a
[00:18:05] a 50% fatality rate. Well, Doctor Doctor Anne Rimoin is a professor
[00:18:09] professor at the Department of Epidemiology Epidemiology at UCLA. And I asked
[00:18:12] asked her what she makes of the current
[00:18:14] current outbreak in the Democratic Democratic Republic of the Congo.
[00:18:18] Congo. Well, I think that when we're we're talking about an Ebola outbreak
[00:18:21] outbreak on the scale that we're we're seeing here in DRC, we've got
[00:18:24] got multiple outbreaks happening happening throughout the country
[00:18:26] country with multiple chains of transmission, transmission, and we are seeing cases
[00:18:30] cases start to go down in the Ituri Ituri region where this outbreak
[00:18:34] outbreak really started. That said, said, in North Kivu and another part
[00:18:37] part of the country we're still seeing
[00:18:39] seeing cases continuing to move very,
[00:18:41] very, very quickly. So it's great great that we're seeing cases starting
[00:18:44] starting to decline in certain places. places. We know how to contain this.
[00:18:48] this. We're starting to see the fruits
[00:18:50] fruits of their labours, but we are are still behind this outbreak. There
[00:18:53] There are still a lot of people who who are very vulnerable to it. And
[00:18:56] And so it's not time to sit back back and relax. It's time to double
[00:19:00] double down and to be able to save save as many lives as possible. And
[00:19:03] And so in terms of the Ebola vaccine vaccine being used, of course, it's
[00:19:07] it's not quite the exact vaccine
[00:19:09] vaccine needed which is still under under development right now. But
[00:19:12] But what are the hopes as to whether whether it might be able to make
[00:19:15] make a difference? This Ervebo vaccine
[00:19:19] vaccine is a licenced vaccine. It
[00:19:21] It is licenced for use for the Ebola
[00:19:24] Ebola Zaire species, and it's been been very effective in reducing cases,
[00:19:28] cases, reducing mortality, reducing reducing hospitalisation. So, you
[00:19:31] you know, we do know that this can can be an effective vaccine that
[00:19:35] that can be deployed in this region. region. My team has published a paper
[00:19:38] paper very recently in The Lancet Lancet describing our work where
[00:19:42] where we followed health care workers
[00:19:44] workers during the Ebola Zaire outbreaks
[00:19:47] outbreaks for five years after they they were vaccinated with Ervebo.
[00:19:50] Ervebo. And what we did find very very interestingly was there a large
[00:19:53] large proportion of those health health care workers did show reactivity
[00:19:57] reactivity to this virus or to with
[00:20:01] with protection against this virus virus from the vaccine for several
[00:20:05] several years after the fact. So
[00:20:08] So just showing reactivity does not
[00:20:12] not necessarily mean that it is going going to be protective, but it is
[00:20:15] is the question that we need to answer. answer. And that's why this study
[00:20:18] study that's being done is so important. important. We're going to really
[00:20:22] really learn can this vaccine protect protect against it. And it's very very possible that it can provide
[00:20:26] provide some protection. That would would be really fantastic. You know,
[00:20:29] know, the public health and medical medical community does have more
[00:20:33] more knowledge now than it previously previously did about how to fight
[00:20:36] fight Ebola from previous outbreaks, outbreaks, including what we saw
[00:20:40] saw in West Africa. So, you know, know, we know how to shut it down.
[00:20:43] down. Why is this proving so difficult
[00:20:46] difficult to extinguish this current
[00:20:47] current outbreak? Well, this outbreak
[00:20:51] outbreak started when we didn't have have diagnostics for this particular
[00:20:55] particular strain of Ebola or this
[00:20:56] this species of Ebola. So we had
[00:21:00] had diagnostics that would that were were for specifically for Ebola.
[00:21:03] Ebola. Zaire, not for Ebola, Bundibugyo. Bundibugyo. And so we really just
[00:21:06] just didn't have any situational situational awareness. And with Ebola, Ebola, you have to get in front of
[00:21:10] of it. You need to admit that you you see cases, you need to start
[00:21:13] start isolating the cases, doing doing contact tracing. So, you know,
[00:21:16] know, it went on for several months. months. And so we've been chasing
[00:21:19] chasing behind it ever since. But But we do have tools to be able to
[00:21:22] to get in front of it. And we know
[00:21:24] know it starts with community participation
[00:21:28] participation and great communication. communication. Safe burials, isolating
[00:21:30] isolating cases, doing the contact contact tracing, quarantining people
[00:21:34] people who have been contacted, who who have been in contact with cases. cases. So there's so much that we
[00:21:38] we do know how to do here. Even without
[00:21:41] without a vaccine, to be able to to get in front of it. And that's
[00:21:43] that's what we've actually seen work
[00:21:45] work in the region. Doctor Anne Rimoin
[00:21:48] Rimoin there at UCLA now. Princess Princess Diana's brother has exclusively
[00:21:51] exclusively told the BBC that he's he's telling the truth about a phone
[00:21:55] phone call with King Charles in the
[00:21:57] the days following his sister's death
[00:22:00] death in 1997. In his book, which which is due to be published next
[00:22:03] next week, I'll Spencer claims that
[00:22:05] that the then Prince of Wales said
[00:22:09] said of his former wife, "We'll forget forget her soon enough.". What followed followed was a strongly worded response response from Buckingham Palace,
[00:22:13] Palace, which queried Earl Spencer's Spencer's recollection of events.
[00:22:16] events. Ellie Price has more. A stunning stunning new claim from Princess
[00:22:20] Princess Diana's brother. I would would imagine it is the talk of the
[00:22:23] the town. There has indeed been a a lot of talk this week about exactly
[00:22:27] exactly what happened nearly 30 years
[00:22:28] years ago. Princess Diana's brother
[00:22:31] brother Earl Spencer, speaking exclusively exclusively to Laura Kuenssberg in
[00:22:34] in an interview to be released in in full tomorrow, has doubled down
[00:22:38] down on claims he's made in a new new book about a conversation he
[00:22:41] he had with the then Prince Charles Charles just days after Diana's death,
[00:22:45] death, a phone call in which the the earl objected to the plan for
[00:22:47] for the two young princes to walk walk behind their mother's coffin.
[00:22:51] coffin. He went ballistic would be
[00:22:53] be the right term and started really
[00:22:56] really going for my family as a whole whole about their sense of duty not
[00:22:59] not being adequate enough and ranted
[00:23:03] ranted for a while. I have no idea idea how long, but it was a significant
[00:23:06] significant period and I just listened. listened. And then he stopped and
[00:23:09] and I thought, oh, now now he's going going to pull himself together and
[00:23:12] and say something more appropriate.
[00:23:14] appropriate. And then he said, we'll
[00:23:16] we'll forget her soon enough. What
[00:23:22] What went through your mind? Well. I'm not sure I can say exactly
[00:23:25] exactly what went through my mind, mind, but I really was so stunned.
[00:23:28] stunned. And I just after a stunned
[00:23:31] stunned silence, I said, I cannot cannot believe you just said that.
[00:23:33] that. And I hung up on him. Following
[00:23:36] Following her death, Princess Diana Diana became known as the People's
[00:23:40] People's Princess and the Royal Family Family were criticised for their their response. They appeared out
[00:23:44] out of touch with the public. The
[00:23:46] The reputational damage lasting years. years. But friends of the now King
[00:23:49] King have questioned the earl's claims. claims. I simply cannot believe.
[00:23:53] believe. That he could have said said something like that. It's just just not his character. It's not
[00:23:57] not his personality. He's a he. I
[00:23:59] I never, ever have I heard him say
[00:24:02] say anything like that. On Wednesday, Wednesday, the Palace released an
[00:24:05] an unusually robust statement when when excerpts of the book were first
[00:24:09] first released, it said the King King was mindful that the pain of
[00:24:11] of fraternal grief can cloud reason,
[00:24:14] reason, affect judgement and colour
[00:24:16] colour memory in ways others do not
[00:24:18] not recognise. Even many years after
[00:24:20] after such a loss. It was a far cry cry from the usual approach of the
[00:24:23] the Royal Family of never complain, complain, never explain, but I think
[00:24:27] think shows the depth of anger felt felt by the King of contentious times
[00:24:30] times nearly three decades ago. There There has been no further comment
[00:24:34] comment by the palace nor from the the princes William or Harry. The
[00:24:37] The king's youngest son was out yesterday yesterday in Birmingham. His first
[00:24:41] first set of engagements back on on British soil. It's understood
[00:24:44] understood he hasn't read his uncle's uncle's book, but with more extracts
[00:24:48] extracts expected to be released released this weekend, there may may be little getting away from it
[00:24:51] it for any of the Royal Family. Ellie
[00:24:54] Ellie Price BBC News. Well, before before we go, a reminder of our breaking
[00:24:58] breaking news. Ed Sheeran broke his his silence on dropping his support
[00:25:02] support act Macklemore from his ongoing ongoing tour. Sheeran had said that
[00:25:05] that the decision to drop Macklemore Macklemore over pro-Palestinian remarks
[00:25:08] remarks was made by his promoters, promoters, not him. The price for
[00:25:11] for tickets dropped and sales declined declined for the remaining US leg
[00:25:14] leg of his Loop Tour due to the controversy. controversy. And Sheeran told the
[00:25:18] the crowd, quote, I never wanted wanted to be an activist musician
[00:25:21] musician but this has put me in the the middle of an important and passionate
[00:25:24] passionate argument about free speech speech and the most complex political
[00:25:28] political issue on the planet. He He went on to say what's happening
[00:25:31] happening in Gaza is catastrophic catastrophic and unjustifiable and
[00:25:35] and disproportionate. My heart has has been broken by the scale of devastation
[00:25:37] devastation and loss of civilian civilian lives, of children's lives.
[00:25:41] lives. He also acknowledged the horrific horrific October 7th attacks on Israel.
[00:25:44] Israel. He said, saying it compounded compounded centuries of Jewish pain.
[00:25:48] pain. Ed Sheeran said that he's trying trying to work out how to make a
[00:25:51] a contribution that helps victims victims of these terrible times,
[00:25:54] times, he said, and that he is listening
[00:25:56] listening and learning because I I do not know enough. We'll have
[00:26:00] have more on that at the top of the
[00:26:02] the hour. Stay with us here on
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