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[00:00:13] Live from Washington. This is
[00:00:15] BBC News. Ed Sheeran calls the situation
[00:00:19] situation in Gaza unjustifiable at at a concert in Philadelphia. In
[00:00:21] In his first remarks since his support
[00:00:23] support act was dropped over pro-Palestinian
[00:00:26] pro-Palestinian comments. The Houthis Houthis in Yemen claim responsibility
[00:00:29] responsibility for missile and drone
[00:00:31] drone attacks on the Saudi capital capital and Nato welcomes a deal
[00:00:35] deal between the US and Denmark, Denmark, which President Trump claims
[00:00:39] claims gives the US security control
[00:00:41] control over Greenland forever. I'm
[00:00:52] I'm Helena Humphrey good to have have you with us in Ed Sheeran's
[00:00:56] Sheeran's first concert since his his opening act, Macklemore was dropped,
[00:00:59] dropped, Ed Sheeran directly addressed addressed the controversy and his
[00:01:02] his thoughts on the Gaza war. Macklemore
[00:01:04] Macklemore was removed from the tour tour after making pro-Palestinian
[00:01:08] pro-Palestinian remarks, leading leading to other opening acts dropping
[00:01:11] dropping out in solidarity. Ed Sheeran Sheeran described the situation in
[00:01:14] in Gaza as catastrophic and unjustifiable. unjustifiable. He said the Hamas
[00:01:18] Hamas attacks on Israel on October
[00:01:21] October 7th, 2023 were horrific and
[00:01:23] and Israel's response had been disproportionate. disproportionate. Ed Sheeran had
[00:01:26] had said that the decision to drop
[00:01:27] drop Macklemore was made by his promoters promoters and not him. Well, here's
[00:01:31] here's Ed Sheeran addressing that that controversy at the start of
[00:01:34] of his concert in Philadelphia. It's
[00:01:36] It's OK if I say a few words about
[00:01:38] about this last week. I've used my
[00:01:45] my music being criticised and I'm I'm always happy to take that because
[00:01:49] because I'm lucky. A lot of you like like my stuff and to be honest, I'm
[00:01:52] I'm surprised. I'm not surprised surprised that I've don't you know
[00:01:55] know it's normal. But this week the the criticism was about something
[00:01:58] something much more important and and I've had to take and make difficult
[00:02:02] difficult decisions and I am making
[00:02:04] making mistakes and I'm so, so sorry.
[00:02:07] sorry. I don't want to disappoint disappoint fans and I've never wanted
[00:02:10] wanted to be an activist musician, musician, but this has put me in
[00:02:13] in the middle of an important and and passionate argument about freedom
[00:02:16] freedom of speech and the most complex
[00:02:18] complex political issue on the planet.
[00:02:27] planet. Our concerts have always
[00:02:29] always been a safe space for everyone everyone and that matters hugely
[00:02:32] hugely to me. Honouring my commitment
[00:02:35] commitment to my fans is also completely completely central to who I am, and
[00:02:39] and that is why I'm here tonight
[00:02:41] tonight on my own and continuing continuing my current tour. Well,
[00:02:45] Well, the singer went on to explain explain his views on the Israel-Gaza
[00:02:49] Israel-Gaza war. Take a listen. This
[00:02:52] This is a humanitarian issue and and I cannot hide how I feel about
[00:02:55] about it any more. What happened happened in Israel and at the Nova
[00:02:59] Nova Music Festival on October 7th
[00:03:01] 7th was horrific and compounded centuries
[00:03:03] centuries of Jewish pain. What is
[00:03:06] is happening in Gaza is catastrophic
[00:03:09] catastrophic and unjustifiable and and disproportionate. My heart has
[00:03:12] has been broken by the scale of devastation
[00:03:14] devastation and loss of civilians
[00:03:17] civilians lives, of children's lives lives and the systemic injustice
[00:03:21] injustice we're seeing unfold in in the West Bank cannot be overlooked.
[00:03:25] overlooked. I am already speaking speaking to people across the spectrum
[00:03:27] spectrum to work out how to make make a contribution that helps victims
[00:03:31] victims of these Terrible times and and listening and learning because
[00:03:35] because I do not know enough. Well, Well, I spoke with our correspondent
[00:03:38] correspondent Carl Nasman who was was at that concert, and he told
[00:03:41] told me what he saw. Yeah, we were were there. And really in some of
[00:03:44] of the first rows actually inside inside the stadium there behind us.
[00:03:47] us. This was really a remarkable remarkable moment. I mean, everybody
[00:03:50] everybody was wondering exactly what what might happen and how Ed Sheeran
[00:03:53] Sheeran could address some of the the controversy that we've seen really really enveloping his tour over the
[00:03:57] the past few days. And this was the the first moment, literally, Ed Sheeran
[00:04:01] Sheeran walks out on stage and he he launches into that speech that
[00:04:04] that you just heard. It appeared appeared to be a prepared speech, speech, but he kind of addressed
[00:04:08] addressed a lot of things that people people were wondering about specifically
[00:04:11] specifically his stance on the situation
[00:04:14] situation in the Middle East and
[00:04:16] and also what his thought about Macklemore Macklemore being dropped from his
[00:04:19] his tour. We heard the reporting reporting that this was due to potentially
[00:04:22] potentially a pressure campaign from from some of the owners of the stadiums
[00:04:25] stadiums on this tour. He said he
[00:04:27] he was deeply concerned by the fact
[00:04:30] fact that artists like Macklemore
[00:04:32] Macklemore and content of concerts concerts could be pre-screened by
[00:04:35] by the owners of these types of concert concert venues. So I think that was
[00:04:39] was also a really important moment moment there. The reaction from the
[00:04:42] the crowd, I think, was generally generally very positive. The biggest biggest cheer of the night was when
[00:04:45] when he said that he was committed committed to being here tonight,
[00:04:48] tonight, to playing for the people people gathered inside that stadium
[00:04:52] stadium and to continuing his tour. tour. Obviously everybody here, you
[00:04:55] you know, wanted to come, wanted wanted to see Ed Sheeran perform,
[00:04:57] perform, whether or not he had those those opening acts, whether Macklemore Macklemore was there or not. There
[00:05:01] There was also this interesting and and kind of an emotional moment in
[00:05:05] in the middle of his concert where where he addressed the crowd and and he said, look, I don't know if
[00:05:08] if you've been looking at social social media recently, but there's
[00:05:11] there's been a lot of stuff out there
[00:05:13] there specifically about me. I was was actually worried coming out here
[00:05:17] here today about the reception that
[00:05:19] that I would get from people in Philadelphia
[00:05:22] Philadelphia at this concert, and and that was a huge cheer from the
[00:05:25] the crowd there in support of Ed Ed Sheeran. So I think there was
[00:05:29] was some speculation. How would he he stand with his fans? Would there there be protests? What would the
[00:05:33] the reaction be? But at that moment, moment, I think proving that Ed Sheeran
[00:05:36] Sheeran still has a lot of support, support, especially inside that stadium
[00:05:39] stadium behind us. And so Carl, how how did this concert unfold? Has
[00:05:43] Has it been a pared back performance performance so far? Did anyone join
[00:05:46] join him on stage? So as we said,
[00:05:52] said, his back-up band, the band
[00:05:54] band that usually joins him, you
[00:05:56] you know, for some of these songs, songs, plays some of the other instruments
[00:05:59] instruments they dropped out when when Macklemore was kind of dropped
[00:06:03] dropped from this tour. They left left in solidarity with him. So the
[00:06:06] the thinking would be would there there be anybody else on stage at at all? And in the beginning it looked
[00:06:10] looked like it would just be a one one man show. He's an incredible
[00:06:13] incredible artist. He's very talented talented at looping tracks, playing
[00:06:16] playing a riff, looping another one, one, using some vocalisation to create create this beautiful background
[00:06:20] background track that he then used used to sing over for many of his
[00:06:23] his songs. But then about halfway halfway through he was joined by
[00:06:26] by some other artists on stage. He He said they had about three days
[00:06:29] days to prepare to learn these songs songs and get up there. He said the
[00:06:32] the biggest concern that he had was was that people would pay tickets, tickets, they'd come to his concert
[00:06:36] concert and it wouldn't be the same, same, that he wouldn't be able to to perform some of the songs that
[00:06:40] that he otherwise had hoped to do. do. So in the middle of that concert,
[00:06:43] concert, he was joined by kind of of this impromptu band behind him,
[00:06:46] him, and they were able to play some some of his biggest hits. Carl it's
[00:06:50] it's probably difficult to tell right right now, but will this be enough,
[00:06:53] enough, do you think? What sense sense do you get? Will his words
[00:06:56] words tonight be enough to limit limit some of the damage that we've
[00:07:00] we've seen to his reputation over
[00:07:01] over the past week? Yeah, I think
[00:07:05] think that is the question going going forward. And I think some of
[00:07:07] of those questions might be answered answered next week because he'll
[00:07:10] he'll be performing inside Gillette Gillette Stadium that's just outside
[00:07:13] outside of Boston and that is the the stadium that's owned by Robert
[00:07:16] Robert Kraft. And he's reportedly reportedly the owner who took offence
[00:07:20] offence to the comments made by Macklemore Macklemore and was reportedly the
[00:07:23] the one that really spearheaded this this pressure campaign to have Macklemore Macklemore dropped from the tour.
[00:07:27] tour. So we'll see what kind of reception reception he gets in that stadium
[00:07:30] stadium next week. But you know, know, I think a lot of fans here
[00:07:33] here and I think a lot of his fans fans who are concerned about the
[00:07:37] the situation in Gaza really wanted wanted to hear something from Ed
[00:07:40] Ed Sheeran. I think it was notable notable that the very first thing
[00:07:44] thing he did tonight was give this
[00:07:46] this two minute speech to his fans fans to try to address this head
[00:07:49] head on. So I think for many people people here tonight, this would be
[00:07:53] be enough. Carl Nasman reporting reporting there. The Iran backed
[00:07:57] backed Houthis are claiming responsibility responsibility for drone and ballistic ballistic missile attacks on Saudi
[00:08:01] Saudi Arabia's capital Riyadh, marking marking a significant escalation.
[00:08:04] escalation. Smoke was seen rising rising from fuel tanks near Riyadh's
[00:08:08] Riyadh's international airport, where where flights were temporarily disrupted
[00:08:11] disrupted on Saturday. It's the first first time that the Yemen based Houthis
[00:08:14] Houthis have reached that far north north since the Iran war began. They
[00:08:18] They also attacked Saudi state oil oil and gas facilities at Yanbu on
[00:08:22] on the Red Sea coast. A Houthi military military spokesperson called it retaliation
[00:08:26] retaliation for Saudi attacks on on Houthi forces in the Yemeni capital
[00:08:30] capital Sanaa. Well, for more than than a decade, the Houthis have been
[00:08:33] been fighting the Saudi backed government government for control of Yemen.
[00:08:36] Yemen. That conflict largely subsided
[00:08:38] subsided after a ceasefire was declared
[00:08:41] declared in 2022, but this year the
[00:08:43] the Houthis became involved in the
[00:08:45] the wider US-Iran war threatening threatening international shipping
[00:08:49] shipping through the Bab al-Mandab al-Mandab Strait. Caroline Rose is is a senior director at the Soufan
[00:08:53] Soufan Centre, a foreign policy think think tank. And I asked her about
[00:08:56] about the significance of the Houthi Houthi attack on the Saudi capital.
[00:09:00] capital. I think that this is extremely
[00:09:03] extremely significant, particularly particularly given the fact that that we're seeing an active shift
[00:09:07] shift in the Houthi strategy. It's
[00:09:09] It's no longer about creating choke
[00:09:12] choke holds over key maritime corridors
[00:09:15] corridors and trying to restrict
[00:09:18] restrict the global energy infrastructure. infrastructure. But now it's about
[00:09:21] about trying to advance their own own momentum in Yemen's civil war
[00:09:25] war and against one of their greatest greatest adversaries, Saudi Arabia.
[00:09:28] Arabia. It shows that they have the
[00:09:31] the capability to shift from maritime
[00:09:34] maritime domains to overland attacks attacks well into Saudi Arabia's
[00:09:37] Arabia's capital, as well as, of of course, with threats of attacks
[00:09:40] attacks against cities like Mecca Mecca as well as successful attacks
[00:09:44] attacks in sites like Yanbu. So what
[00:09:47] what position does that put the Saudis
[00:09:48] Saudis in? How do you see them responding?
[00:09:51] responding? This puts Saudi Arabia Arabia in an incredibly difficult
[00:09:54] difficult position. Of course, over
[00:09:57] over the last few months, one of of their greatest priorities was
[00:10:01] was deescalation between the United United States and Iran, as well as,
[00:10:04] as, of course, trying to open up
[00:10:07] up these maritime choke points for
[00:10:09] for global trade. Now they are confronted
[00:10:12] confronted with an additional front front with the Houthis. Not only
[00:10:15] only do they have to deal with this
[00:10:17] this choke hold over the Bab al-Mandab al-Mandab Strait, but now they have
[00:10:21] have to look at some of these attacks attacks that have been launched inside
[00:10:25] inside of their own territory, not not only by Houthi militants but
[00:10:29] but also by Iran backed militias militias that have been operating operating in Iraq. So this creates
[00:10:32] creates two fronts for Saudi Arabia.
[00:10:34] Arabia. It's clear that they have have made a few requests to countries
[00:10:38] countries like the United States States for assistance. But as of
[00:10:41] of right now, it seems like they they are going to be shouldering shouldering this conflict on their
[00:10:45] their own. And when it comes to the the Houthis, how have they been able
[00:10:48] able to carry out what appear to to be increasingly audacious attacks?
[00:10:51] attacks? You know, some people refer refer to them as the Houthi rebels.
[00:10:54] rebels. Does that belie what they they have now become? Certainly.
[00:10:58] Certainly. I think this really establishes
[00:11:00] establishes the Houthis as a formidable formidable fighting force in Yemen.
[00:11:04] Yemen. This is no longer a ragtag
[00:11:07] ragtag militia group comprised of
[00:11:08] of 3000 or so individuals. This is
[00:11:11] is now a force that is comprised
[00:11:14] comprised of nearly 400,000 personnel.
[00:11:17] personnel. They have sophisticated sophisticated equipment, sophisticated,
[00:11:19] sophisticated, advanced enough to
[00:11:21] to really stretch into key territory
[00:11:25] territory of their adversaries like like Saudi Arabia. Additionally,
[00:11:28] Additionally, they have adopted very,
[00:11:30] very, very key and clear signs of
[00:11:33] of asymmetric warfare using drones
[00:11:35] drones and even missiles to conduct
[00:11:37] conduct their attacks against rivals
[00:11:39] rivals like Saudi Arabia. So ultimately,
[00:11:43] ultimately, Caroline, what are their
[00:11:44] their ambitions here and what will
[00:11:47] will stop them? Well. I think it's it's twofold. The first, of course,
[00:11:51] course, is to act on behalf of Iran.
[00:11:53] Iran. And they've done this by trying trying to expand their influence
[00:11:57] influence and control over islands islands in the Bab al-Mandab Strait
[00:12:00] Strait and really create a paralysis
[00:12:03] paralysis for maritime commercial commercial activity. And they've
[00:12:05] they've been able to accomplish this
[00:12:07] this thus far. But what we're seeing seeing now, they're accomplishing
[00:12:11] accomplishing what they're what they're they're doing against Saudi Arabia
[00:12:14] Arabia with these overland strikes, strikes, they've been able to also
[00:12:17] also continue that paralysis of energy
[00:12:19] energy infrastructure by targeting
[00:12:22] targeting warehouses, depots processing processing sites. But additionally,
[00:12:25] additionally, what they're trying trying to do is make their own gains
[00:12:28] gains in Yemen's war and trying to
[00:12:30] to really create momentum for themselves
[00:12:33] themselves to continue territorial territorial expansion and weaken
[00:12:36] weaken Saudi Arabia's hand at the
[00:12:38] the negotiation table. On that one one prong, you mentioned Iranian
[00:12:42] Iranian interests. Some people might
[00:12:43] might be wondering if Iran is weakened
[00:12:46] weakened in the way that the US says says it is. How has it been able
[00:12:50] able to provide that assistance to
[00:12:53] to the Houthis? Certainly. Well,
[00:12:55] Well, Iran has been able to provide
[00:12:58] provide advisory support, intelligence.
[00:13:00] intelligence. Of course, equipment, equipment, financial assistance.
[00:13:03] assistance. So that, of course, I I think has been much more limited
[00:13:07] limited as the United States and and other partners have started to
[00:13:10] to constrict these financial streams
[00:13:13] streams into the into Iran. But I
[00:13:14] I think this attack, as well as the
[00:13:17] the Houthis recent campaign, really really illuminates that when Iran
[00:13:21] Iran feels weakened, when they feel feel constrained, they're going to
[00:13:23] to start to rely a lot more on their
[00:13:27] their proxy networks in Iraq, in
[00:13:29] in Lebanon, in Yemen, to carry out out these sorts of attacks against
[00:13:33] against their perceived adversaries
[00:13:34] adversaries and really crank up the the pressure on the international
[00:13:38] international stage when it comes comes to maritime trade, fuel prices
[00:13:42] prices and political tension over
[00:13:44] over ongoing escalation. Well, supply
[00:13:47] supply chain disruptions caused by by the Iran war have pushed fuel
[00:13:50] fuel prices up worldwide, and people people across the world are protesting.
[00:13:53] protesting. Some examples from this this week. French fishermen blocked
[00:13:56] blocked access to an oil depot, calling calling on the government to address
[00:14:00] address rising fuel costs. Protesters Protesters in northeastern Syria
[00:14:03] Syria blocked oil tanker trucks after after the government announced a
[00:14:07] a 28% increase in the price of gasoline gasoline and teachers in Bolivia
[00:14:10] Bolivia took to the streets to protest protest rising fuel prices and the
[00:14:14] the overall cost of living. Despite Despite a state of emergency and
[00:14:18] and a ban on protests. Now Nato is
[00:14:21] is welcoming a new deal between the the US and Denmark over Greenland,
[00:14:25] Greenland, which President Trump Trump claims gives the US security
[00:14:28] security control of the territory territory forever. While the exact exact terms haven't yet been made
[00:14:32] made public, Denmark's foreign minister minister said the agreement respects
[00:14:35] respects its red lines and strengthens strengthens security in the Arctic
[00:14:39] Arctic and North Atlantic. Well, Well, Greenland is a mineral rich,
[00:14:42] rich, semi-autonomous Danish territory territory whose strategic location
[00:14:45] location has drawn growing US attention. attention. President Trump has repeatedly
[00:14:49] repeatedly warned that the island island is vulnerable to Russia and
[00:14:52] and China, and on Saturday, Nato Nato said that the Arctic is vital
[00:14:55] vital to the alliance's collective collective security. Carla Sands
[00:14:58] Sands is a former US ambassador to
[00:15:01] to Denmark, serving from 2017 to
[00:15:04] to 2021 under the Trump administration administration and is currently chair
[00:15:07] chair of the Foreign Policy Initiative. Initiative. She gave me her take
[00:15:10] take on the US Greenland deal. Well,
[00:15:13] Well, I think it's a wonderful deal.
[00:15:15] deal. I think Denmark won, the United
[00:15:17] United States won. And I think Greenlanders Greenlanders won two, although some
[00:15:20] some of the Greenlanders are a little little nervous because they haven't
[00:15:23] haven't read the text of the agreement. agreement. But I think the signing
[00:15:27] signing of this agreement this week week at the UN General Assembly is
[00:15:31] is an exciting progress. It means
[00:15:33] means that Greenland is going to to be secure from our adversaries.
[00:15:36] adversaries. But, Helen, I will just just tell you this. In the Wall Street
[00:15:39] Street Journal today was an article article that was false, absolutely
[00:15:42] absolutely fake news. It said that
[00:15:45] that Denmark had made sure that adversaries adversaries couldn't own critical
[00:15:49] critical critical resources like like critical minerals. And as a
[00:15:52] a matter of fact, when I got to Greenland
[00:15:55] Greenland as ambassador, there was
[00:15:58] was no United States ownership of of any of the rare earth mines. But
[00:16:01] But a majority of the mines there
[00:16:04] there had a minority interest by by the Chinese. So there was a lot
[00:16:08] lot of investment by the Chinese. Chinese. And the Chinese have really
[00:16:11] really been working. The Greenlanders Greenlanders diplomatically. And
[00:16:15] And then also economically in order
[00:16:17] order to gain a foothold. So it's it's they are working with Russia
[00:16:21] Russia to thwart the West. And this
[00:16:23] this is just another effort to thwart,
[00:16:27] thwart, I would say, Nato, the Western Western world, the United States
[00:16:29] States and Europe. We'll talk more more about the minerals in just a
[00:16:32] a moment. But you had said that some some of the Greenlanders appeared
[00:16:36] appeared nervous because they hadn't hadn't seen the text of the agreement.
[00:16:40] agreement. One of the reasons that
[00:16:41] that Greenlanders have also expressed expressed nervousness, scepticism
[00:16:45] scepticism in some cases fear is is because previously Donald Trump
[00:16:48] Trump had said that he would seek seek to acquire Greenland whatever
[00:16:52] whatever way possible. He didn't
[00:16:54] didn't rule out military force. Are Are you confident that he wouldn't
[00:16:58] wouldn't seek ownership of Greenland Greenland in the future? Well, let's
[00:17:02] let's just put this in context. There There have been three US presidents
[00:17:06] presidents that have said the United United States needs to own Greenland,
[00:17:09] Greenland, and it's because of its
[00:17:11] its geostrategic location to the the United States. It's part of North
[00:17:15] North America. And in order for us
[00:17:16] us to get to our friends across the
[00:17:19] the Atlantic, we can't have an adversary adversary control Greenland. It's
[00:17:22] It's in the Giuk Gap, those giant giant seas. So whether it's, you
[00:17:26] you know, trade or defence or offence,
[00:17:29] offence, we need access to the land land because it controls the seas
[00:17:32] seas around it. And President Trump,
[00:17:35] Trump, he is looking at the security security of the American people.
[00:17:38] people. He is looking at installing installing the Golden Dome. Greenland
[00:17:41] Greenland happens to be strategic. strategic. The Greenlandic people people want to be independent. They
[00:17:45] They want to be Greenlanders. As As a matter of fact. But they're they're going to need a security
[00:17:49] security partner. And that security security partner is now the United
[00:17:52] United States. So when they go independent
[00:17:55] independent in this century, just just like Iceland went independent
[00:17:58] independent in the last century,
[00:18:00] century, in the mid 20th century,
[00:18:03] century, when Greenland goes independent, independent, they have a secure a
[00:18:06] a security partner that's reliable,
[00:18:09] reliable, that's credible, responsible. responsible. Denmark has never been
[00:18:12] been able to afford to defend Greenland, Greenland, and they've never had
[00:18:16] had the ability to develop it. They They just don't have the money or
[00:18:19] or the interest. OK. But just to to be clear, do you think this deal
[00:18:23] deal will go far enough for President President Trump because he's spoken
[00:18:26] spoken about control over security,
[00:18:27] security, but he's also said on Truth
[00:18:30] Truth Social, all other needs. That's That's not something that Danish
[00:18:34] Danish or Greenlandic leaders have
[00:18:37] have spoken about. So will this deal
[00:18:38] deal be it for the President? Well,
[00:18:42] Well, I think that the danger pretty pretty excited about this deal. I
[00:18:45] I think they're as excited as the the American people. And I hope the
[00:18:48] the Greenlanders are excited to.
[00:18:51] to. The White House Correspondents Correspondents Association is demanding
[00:18:54] demanding President Trump lift his his ban on reporters from three media
[00:18:58] media organisations. Journalists Journalists from the outlets were
[00:19:00] were denied access to White House
[00:19:02] House grounds on Saturday, MSNow MSNow reporter Akayla Gardner and
[00:19:05] and her crew were forced to report report from Pennsylvania Avenue after
[00:19:08] after being prevented from entering entering the White House. CNN's Betsy
[00:19:12] Betsy Klein was also doing her live live hits from outside the grounds
[00:19:16] grounds of the White House. President President Trump accused CNN, Politico
[00:19:19] Politico and MSNow of biassed reporting, reporting, and we've had statements
[00:19:23] statements from some of those organisations. organisations. Politico's editor
[00:19:26] editor in chief Jonathan Greenberger, Greenberger, confirmed that their
[00:19:29] their reporter Cheyenne Haslett, Haslett, has had her pass confiscated.
[00:19:32] confiscated. In an email to staff, staff, he said we stand by her and
[00:19:36] and all reporters here covering the the White House. We will vigorously
[00:19:39] vigorously defend our First Amendment Amendment rights. CNN also released
[00:19:42] released a statement saying we will will not be deflected from our duty
[00:19:45] duty to hold the government and other other public bodies to account. While
[00:19:48] While the White House Correspondents Correspondents Association said the
[00:19:52] the implications of the ban extend extend beyond these organisations,
[00:19:56] organisations, a standard used to to exclude one news outlet because
[00:19:59] because of its coverage could be
[00:20:00] be applied to any outlet in the future.
[00:20:04] future. Now Princess Diana's brother brother has exclusively told the
[00:20:07] the BBC that he is telling the truth
[00:20:10] truth about a phone call with King King Charles in the days following
[00:20:13] following his sister's death in 1997.
[00:20:15] 1997. In his book, due to be published published next week, Earl Spencer
[00:20:19] Spencer claims that the then Prince
[00:20:20] Prince of Wales said of his former
[00:20:24] former wife, "We'll forget her soon soon enough.". Ellie Price has more. more. A stunning new claim from Princess
[00:20:28] Princess Diana's brother. I would would imagine it is the talk of the
[00:20:31] the town. But it has indeed been been a lot of talk this week about
[00:20:35] about exactly what happened nearly nearly 30 years ago. Princess Diana's
[00:20:38] Diana's brother Earl Spencer, speaking speaking exclusively to Laura Kuenssberg
[00:20:42] Kuenssberg in an interview to be be released in full tomorrow, has
[00:20:45] has doubled down on claims he's made made in a new book about a conversation
[00:20:49] conversation he had with the then then Prince Charles just days after
[00:20:53] after Diana's death, a phone call call in which the earl objected to
[00:20:55] to the plan for the two young princes princes to walk behind their mother's
[00:20:58] mother's coffin. He went ballistic
[00:21:01] ballistic would be the right term term and started really going for
[00:21:04] for my family as a whole about their
[00:21:06] their sense of duty not being adequate
[00:21:10] adequate enough and ranted for a a while. I have no idea how long,
[00:21:13] long, but it was a significant period period and I just listened. And then
[00:21:16] then he stopped and I thought, oh, oh, now now he's going to pull himself
[00:21:19] himself together and say something
[00:21:21] something more appropriate. And then
[00:21:23] then he said, we'll forget her soon
[00:21:27] soon enough. What went through your
[00:21:31] your mind? Well, I'm not sure I can can say exactly what went through
[00:21:34] through my mind, but I really was was so stunned. And I just after
[00:21:37] after a stunned silence, I said, said, I cannot believe you just said
[00:21:41] said that. And I hung up on him.
[00:21:44] him. Following her death, Princess Princess Diana became known as the
[00:21:47] the People's Princess and the Royal Royal Family were criticised for
[00:21:50] for their response. They appeared appeared out of touch with the public.
[00:21:54] public. The reputational damage lasting lasting years. But friends of the
[00:21:57] the now King have questioned the the earl's claims. I simply cannot
[00:22:01] cannot believe that he could have have said something like that. It's It's just not his character. It's
[00:22:05] It's not his personality. He's a
[00:22:07] a he. I never, ever have I heard
[00:22:09] heard him say anything like that. that. On Wednesday, the Palace released
[00:22:13] released an unusually robust statement statement when excerpts of the book
[00:22:16] book were first released, it said said the King was mindful that the
[00:22:19] the pain of fraternal grief can cloud cloud reason, affect judgement and
[00:22:23] and colour memory in ways others others do not recognise, even many
[00:22:27] many years after such a loss. It It was a far cry from the usual approach
[00:22:31] approach of the Royal Family of never never complain, never explain, but
[00:22:34] but I think shows the depth of anger anger felt by the King of contentious
[00:22:38] contentious times nearly three decades decades ago. There has been no further
[00:22:42] further comment by the palace nor nor from the princes William or Harry.
[00:22:46] Harry. The king's youngest son was was out yesterday in Birmingham.
[00:22:48] Birmingham. His first set of engagements engagements back on British soil.
[00:22:51] soil. It's understood he hasn't read
[00:22:53] read his uncle's book, but with more more extracts expected to be released
[00:22:57] released this weekend, there may may be little getting away from it
[00:22:59] it for any of the Royal Family. Ellie
[00:23:02] Ellie Price BBC News. Now a few books
[00:23:05] books have been adapted for stage stage and screen more than Jane Austen's
[00:23:08] Austen's debut novel Sense and Sensibility. Sensibility. And next week another
[00:23:12] another version is released in cinemas. cinemas. It stars Daisy Edgar-Jones
[00:23:16] Edgar-Jones and Esmee Creed-Miles Creed-Miles as two of the Dashwood
[00:23:19] Dashwood sisters that have been speaking speaking to our culture correspondent
[00:23:23] correspondent Noor Nanji. I like
[00:23:25] like him I greatly esteem him. Elinor
[00:23:31] Elinor use those words again. I shall shall leave the room. Sense and sensibility
[00:23:34] sensibility follows the Dashwood Dashwood sisters as they navigate navigate their way through love,
[00:23:38] love, loss and societal expectations expectations following the death
[00:23:42] death of their father. It's father's father's well. This house will always
[00:23:44] always be home. We will find somewhere somewhere else. Just as nice with
[00:23:47] with the money father left us. What
[00:23:50] What money? The Jane Austen book
[00:23:54] book has been adapted for screen screen many times before, but Daisy
[00:23:58] Daisy Edgar-Jones, who stars in the the film, believes there is space
[00:24:01] space for another version. She was was writing 200 years ago, and yet
[00:24:04] yet her. Her stories are something something that fascinates us still
[00:24:07] still today, and I think I can't can't really get enough of Jane Austen
[00:24:11] Austen adaptations personally, but but I think there's something about
[00:24:13] about her. She's so character driven. driven. She has an incredible way
[00:24:17] way of articulating the female experience.
[00:24:20] experience. Daisy says that in her her personal life she really is like
[00:24:24] like Elinor, the rational elder sister.
[00:24:25] sister. When it comes to love. I
[00:24:28] I think I am. I think I'm very much much more Elinor in sort of every
[00:24:32] every way. Yeah definitely lead a
[00:24:36] a lot with my head and try and push
[00:24:38] push aside my bury my emotion and and actually like, I think that's
[00:24:41] that's the joy of the film is Elinor
[00:24:44] Elinor learns to enjoy that wilder, wilder, passionate side of herself.
[00:24:46] herself. And I feel like I learnt
[00:24:48] learnt to do that to. Her younger, younger, more romantic sister. Marianne
[00:24:52] Marianne is played by Esmee Creed-Miles.
[00:24:54] Creed-Miles. This film is about sisterhood sisterhood inasmuch as everything
[00:24:57] everything else. How did you guys guys build that sisterly rapport?
[00:25:00] rapport? It was awesome and the easiest easiest thing in the world I think. think. Yeah, I've heard a lot of
[00:25:04] of people say that after watching watching the film is it either makes makes them want a sister or to ring
[00:25:08] ring up their sister and say like, like, hey, I love you. And I think think that's really special. It's
[00:25:11] It's the part of the film I'm most
[00:25:14] most proud of. It's not handsome,
[00:25:17] handsome, is he? Yucca me. Jane Austen
[00:25:21] Austen is enjoying a revival more
[00:25:24] more than 250 years after her birth. birth. Both actors say it's because
[00:25:28] because she taps into the female female experience. These women are
[00:25:30] are very relatable and their experience experience is very relatable. I don't
[00:25:33] don't know that you know, seeing
[00:25:36] seeing a movie is gonna fix everything,
[00:25:39] everything, but it will might make make you feel a little bit less alone alone in some of the things you're
[00:25:43] you're feeling. Her ruminations on on love, on romance, on sisterly
[00:25:45] sisterly love, on family dynamics, dynamics, on interpersonal social
[00:25:49] social dynamics. She's just, you you know, she's such a talent. And
[00:25:52] And this won't be the last with more
[00:25:54] more remakes of Jane Austen's work
[00:25:56] work in the pipeline. Noor Nanji,
[00:25:58] Nanji, BBC News. From all of us here
[00:26:01] here in Washington, DC.. Have a very very good night. I'll see you soon.
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