BBCNEWS — BBC News 20260920 150000 UTC 509 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:13] Live from London. This is BBC [00:00:16] News. In an exclusive interview, interview, Earl Spencer stands by [00:00:19] by his claims that the then Prince Prince Charles sounded giddily elated [00:00:22] elated on the night that Princess Princess Diana died. He said like [00:00:26] like a lottery winner. I'm reporting [00:00:29] reporting every word in this book. book. I report exactly as I saw it [00:00:33] it and felt it at the time. And I [00:00:36] I was surprised at the giddiness giddiness of his tone. That's what [00:00:40] what I'm recording there. At least least two people are killed in the [00:00:43] the Moscow region after a massive massive Ukrainian drone strike overnight. [00:00:46] overnight. Russia says it's an attempt attempt to disrupt the country's country's parliamentary elections. [00:00:49] elections. The German chancellor, chancellor, Friedrich Merz, is facing facing growing political pressure [00:00:53] pressure as local elections take take place in two German states. [00:00:57] states. And Ed Sheeran apologises apologises to fans for what he calls calls mistakes as he [00:01:05] Mistakes as he performs for the first time since one of his supporting supporting acts, Macklemore was dropped dropped for making pro-Palestinian [00:01:09] pro-Palestinian remarks on stage. stage. What is happening in Gaza [00:01:12] Gaza is catastrophic and unjustifiable unjustifiable and disproportionate. [00:01:15] disproportionate. My heart has been been broken by the scale of devastation [00:01:19] devastation and loss of civilians [00:01:21] civilians lives, of children's lives. [00:01:34] Hello, I'm Rajini Vaidyanathan [00:01:35] we begin this hour with more on that [00:01:38] that exclusive interview. The BBC's BBC's Laura Kuenssberg did with Earl [00:01:42] Earl Spencer. In it he said he stood [00:01:44] stood by his claims that on the night night that Princess Diana died, the [00:01:48] the then Prince Charles sounded giddily [00:01:51] giddily elated, like a lottery winner, winner, while Earl Spencer told Laura [00:01:55] Laura Kuenssberg he was reporting reporting exactly how. As he saw [00:01:57] saw it in his book, which has been been released by the Daily Mail. [00:02:01] Mail. Laura Kuenssberg exclusive exclusive interview with Princess [00:02:04] Princess Diana's brother Earl Spencer [00:02:06] Spencer is now live on the BBC iPlayer [00:02:09] iPlayer for UK audiences. And Laura Laura joins us now to break down [00:02:13] down some of the main exchanges in in that [00:02:20] That interview. Laura, you challenged him first on that assertion assertion that the then Prince of of Wales sounded giddily elated in [00:02:24] in the hours following her death. death. How did he defend those comments? comments? Because, of course the [00:02:28] the palace has pushed back on them. them. Yes. I mean. Buckingham Palace Palace is very strongly objected [00:02:32] objected to how Earl Spencer has [00:02:35] has presented those days around Princess [00:02:37] Princess Diana's death. Back in 1997. [00:02:40] 1997. And for the context, you have have to remember this extraordinary [00:02:43] extraordinary event both men in shock, shock, in grief. As the news was [00:02:46] was coming through in the early hours hours of the morning. And it's one [00:02:49] one of the most explosive claims claims in this book that Charles [00:02:52] Charles Spencer makes, that Prince [00:02:54] Prince Charles seemed to be pleased [00:02:57] pleased about what had happened, happened, that he was also relieved, [00:03:00] relieved, perhaps, that it meant meant he might be able to go on and [00:03:03] and marry Camilla, who of course [00:03:05] course now is Queen Camilla on the [00:03:08] the throne alongside him. So it was was important in our interview really [00:03:10] really to test out these claims and and really to say to Charles Spencer [00:03:13] Spencer what was his evidence of [00:03:15] of that? How? What exactly did he [00:03:18] he recall? And this is our exchange. exchange. I remember picking up the [00:03:21] the telephone. I was upstairs in [00:03:23] in my house in Cape Town, and he [00:03:25] he was telling me how he had told told the boys, William and Harry [00:03:29] Harry at Balmoral and broken the [00:03:31] the news to them. And I. I felt, [00:03:34] felt, as I say in the book actually actually I felt there was a sort [00:03:38] sort of giddy tone. I'd had a lot lot of calls that day from people [00:03:41] people who cared, who were stunned [00:03:44] stunned like we all were. And I just [00:03:46] just felt there was a lightness in in his tone about Diana's death that [00:03:50] that really jarred with me. You write [00:03:53] write that he was giddily elated [00:03:56] elated like a lottery winner. I mean, mean, you're suggesting he was somehow [00:03:59] somehow pleased that his former wife [00:04:02] wife was dead? Well, I'm reporting reporting every word in this book. [00:04:06] book. I report exactly as I saw it [00:04:08] it and felt it at the time. And I [00:04:12] I was surprised at the giddiness giddiness of his tone. That's what [00:04:15] what I'm recording there. It's an [00:04:18] an incredibly damning thing to say, say, though, about his reaction to [00:04:22] to the death of the mother of his his children. And you go on to write, [00:04:25] write, I suspect the prince's reaction reaction must have been to think [00:04:29] think more of how this event might might free him to marry the woman [00:04:32] woman he loved, rather than appreciating appreciating the loss of the one [00:04:36] one he did not. You're suggesting suggesting there in black and white [00:04:40] white that the now King felt that [00:04:43] that Diana's death was rather convenient convenient because he would be able [00:04:47] able to marry Camilla. That is how [00:04:49] how I felt at the time. From the the tone of his voice. So I've only [00:04:53] only ever had two calls from him him and they were both around this [00:04:57] this time. One was on the day of of Diana's death and one was a couple [00:05:00] couple of days later. But are you you sure that's what he was thinking? [00:05:04] thinking? I mean, I cannot. Be sure. [00:05:06] sure. I'm saying that's what I assume [00:05:09] assume from the tone is a possibility [00:05:11] possibility and that's all I can [00:05:14] can do. A very resolute Earl Spencer Spencer there, Laura. Even when you [00:05:17] you pushed him on that. Of course, [00:05:21] course, his book is also about his his sister and the loss. And that's [00:05:24] that's something you also asked him him about, isn't it? Yes. I mean, [00:05:28] mean, it's a strange thing in a sense. sense. Here you have these two families, [00:05:31] families, the Spencers and the Windsors, Windsors, locked in a huge war of [00:05:35] of words that has created headlines headlines right around the world. [00:05:37] world. Yet when I sat down with Charles Charles Spencer and spoke to him [00:05:40] him for half an hour or so about about everything that had happened [00:05:42] happened and his memories of his his sister, it's also completely [00:05:45] completely plain that he is still still first and foremost, however [00:05:49] however angry the Palace is about. about. This book. A grieving brother. [00:05:53] brother. And this is what came across. [00:05:57] across. How much do you miss her? [00:06:02] her? Well, every day, you know, that's that's the thing with sibling loss, [00:06:05] loss, you never get over it. Do you [00:06:13] you think there may be a time where [00:06:15] where you've used the phrase get [00:06:17] get over? But reading the book and [00:06:21] and given how this has all played [00:06:23] played in public, there is a sense [00:06:25] sense that somehow what happened [00:06:28] happened to her has understandably understandably almost consumed you [00:06:31] you at times. I have a very. Luckily [00:06:35] Luckily I have a hugely diverse and and happy life. One of the reasons [00:06:37] reasons I call this swan song actually actually is because it's my sign [00:06:40] sign off. I have been Diana's brother. [00:06:43] brother. This is my final take on [00:06:45] on the situation. And I have a wonderful, [00:06:48] wonderful, happy life. With gorgeous [00:06:51] gorgeous children, fabulous wife wife and we live this much more normal [00:06:54] normal life than this looks like. [00:06:57] like. And that's my future. This [00:06:59] This is my swan song too. I'm not [00:07:02] not here to bang on about Diana. [00:07:04] Diana. This is my final word. Celebration [00:07:07] Celebration of her. And I will step [00:07:10] step off into the sunset now and [00:07:11] and not be available for comment. He talks about his [00:07:16] comment. He talks about his speaking speaking out as being a celebration celebration of his late sister, but [00:07:19] but of course Laura. He also talked [00:07:21] talked a lot about the media scrutiny scrutiny that she faced. That's right. [00:07:24] right. And this is very complicated complicated because Charles Spencer, [00:07:27] Spencer, of course you can tell there there he wants to pay tribute to [00:07:30] to his sister. He wants to tell some some of his happy memories and share [00:07:33] share them with the world as well. well. He also wanted to give his [00:07:36] his view on exactly what the man man who's now on the Throne's behaviour behaviour was like at the time, and [00:07:40] and that's been strongly objected objected from the Palace. He also [00:07:42] also knows that there is huge interest interest and focus on his nephews [00:07:46] nephews William and Harry, who are are locked in a dispute. Harry and [00:07:49] and Meghan, who were at his country country estate, Althorp, over the the summer. And Harry and Meghan, [00:07:53] Meghan, of course, who has been the the subject of massive media attention. [00:07:57] attention. So one of the other things things I asked him is whether he [00:08:00] he feared that there were echoes [00:08:02] echoes of the press intrusion, which [00:08:05] which he believes haunted and harmed harmed his sister in terms of how [00:08:09] how Harry and Meghan were being treated treated right now, all these years [00:08:12] years later. Do you fear there is [00:08:15] is somehow in an echo of what happened happened to Diana? You know, Harry [00:08:18] Harry has said on many occasions occasions that he hasn't felt supported [00:08:21] supported by the institution over over the choices that he's made with with his life. I think there's a [00:08:25] a perception in the media that I'm [00:08:27] I'm on Harry's side. Well, I'm on [00:08:30] on my deceased sister's son's side, side, both of them. And if either [00:08:33] either of them wanted anything, then then I'd be equally there for them. [00:08:37] them. And I never get involved in [00:08:39] in one camp or the other except as [00:08:42] as a benign figure, I hope that's [00:08:44] that's my role. Do you think Diana [00:08:47] Diana would identify with the attention, [00:08:49] attention, the focus that has been been put on them? And with Meghan, [00:08:52] Meghan, who said she felt like she she was the most trolled person in [00:08:55] in the world. You know, they were were here during the summer not so [00:08:58] so long ago. If you look at an article [00:09:01] article in a tabloid about Diana [00:09:05] Diana or the couple that you're mentioning, mentioning, Harry and Meghan, you [00:09:09] you know, it's they can be really, really, really unpleasant. And I [00:09:13] I think it would be really beholden beholden on people to learn from from Diana's example. I'm not here [00:09:17] here to speak for Harry and Meghan, [00:09:19] Meghan, but for anyone who's being [00:09:21] being destroyed in this way daily, [00:09:23] daily, it must be such a cancerous cancerous influence in their life. [00:09:26] life. I saw it with Diana, I saw saw Diana, I mentioned it in the [00:09:30] the eulogy, her tears of despair. despair. One of the problems with [00:09:33] with Diana was she was very, very [00:09:36] very sensitive to criticism. And And of course, I'm sure most of your [00:09:39] your viewers now think, oh, she had had this splendid life and it was was all amazing. And she didn't. [00:09:43] didn't. She was so privileged and and so perfect in so many ways. But [00:09:47] But she was really brought low by by all that criticism. And yeah, [00:09:50] yeah, I suppose it's a pity when [00:09:52] when I see echoes of that now. Laura, [00:09:55] Laura, as we've already discussed [00:09:58] discussed in this interview, Buckingham Buckingham Palace have strongly denied [00:10:01] denied many of the claims from Earl Earl Spencer, not least the one where [00:10:05] where he said Princess Diana would would be soon forgotten shortly after after her death. You challenged him [00:10:09] him on that. We did, and we should should just also reiterate Buckingham [00:10:12] Buckingham Palace have given a very very strongly worded response to [00:10:16] to the claims that emerged in the the last few days. They said the [00:10:19] the King was mindful that the pain pain of fraternal grief can cloud [00:10:23] cloud reason, affect judgement and [00:10:25] and colour memory in ways other do [00:10:27] do not. Others don't recognise. Even [00:10:30] Even many years after such a loss. [00:10:33] loss. Now for context, it's incredibly incredibly unusual that Buckingham [00:10:36] Buckingham Palace would issue a statement statement on something so charged [00:10:39] charged that's very, very unusual unusual indeed. You can tell from [00:10:43] from the tone also that they are [00:10:45] are pushing back very, very hard [00:10:47] hard on this. And also, as you would would expect, given the nature of [00:10:50] of the claim, how controversial and and explosive it is that for Charles [00:10:54] Charles Spencer to make in his book, [00:10:56] book, I asked him if he had any evidence, evidence, if he told anyone else, [00:10:59] else, if he'd made notes at the time time of what he claims the then Prince [00:11:03] Prince Charles said all those years years ago. He went ballistic would [00:11:07] would be the right term and started [00:11:10] started really going for my family family as a whole about their sense [00:11:13] sense of duty not being adequate [00:11:16] adequate enough and ranted for a a while. I have no idea how long, [00:11:19] long, but it was a significant period period and I just listened. And then [00:11:23] then he stopped and I thought, oh, oh, now now he's going to pull himself [00:11:26] himself together and say something [00:11:27] something more appropriate. And then [00:11:30] then he said, we'll forget her soon [00:11:33] soon enough. What went through your [00:11:37] your mind? Well. I'm not sure I can can say exactly what went through [00:11:40] through my mind, but I really was was so stunned. And I just after [00:11:44] after a stunned silence, I said, [00:11:47] said, I cannot believe you just said [00:11:48] said that. And I hung up on him. [00:11:54] him. You know that Buckingham Palace [00:11:57] Palace has already said with a degree [00:12:00] degree of fury. That that didn't [00:12:04] didn't happen. Well, they haven't haven't actually, Laura, they've they've sort of smudged that one [00:12:08] one haven't they? They've said that that recollections may vary. Well, [00:12:11] Well, let me read you exactly what [00:12:12] what the palace has said. They've [00:12:16] They've said His Majesty is mindful [00:12:18] mindful that the pain of fraternal [00:12:21] fraternal grief can cloud reason [00:12:23] reason affect judgement and colour [00:12:26] colour memory in ways others do not [00:12:29] not recognise. Even many years after [00:12:32] after such a loss. The King is plainly [00:12:36] plainly furious. Buckingham Palace Palace almost never issues any kind [00:12:39] kind of statement. Well, is he. Furious Furious or is he embarrassed? Because [00:12:42] Because I can tell you here and now now those are exactly the words he [00:12:45] he said. I've only ever had two calls calls on the line with Prince Charles [00:12:49] Charles at any stage of my life. [00:12:51] life. I was hyper alert to what he he was saying, and those are precisely [00:12:54] precisely the words he said. And And I promised that to you. Now, [00:12:57] Now, genuinely, that is what he said. said. I don't hear him saying he [00:13:01] he didn't say that. Did you write [00:13:06] write it down? Did you keep a diary? diary? Do you have evidence that [00:13:09] that that is what he said at the the time? Because to be fair, this [00:13:13] this was a time of massive shock [00:13:15] shock and emotion for both of you. [00:13:18] you. I told friends and family straight straight away close friends and family [00:13:22] family about what had been said because because it was so monstrous. Which [00:13:25] Which Charles of the public meant meant to believe. Are they to believe [00:13:29] believe you or are they to believe [00:13:32] believe the King, the head of state state of this country, who's giving [00:13:35] giving the impression very forcefully [00:13:39] forcefully that this didn't happen? happen? Who are we to believe? Well, [00:13:42] Well, I'm telling the truth. A strong [00:13:44] strong response there, Laura from from Earl Spencer. Just lastly, as [00:13:48] as we wrap up this conversation, conversation, I just wondered what [00:13:50] what it was like to do that interview interview because of course, some [00:13:53] some really astonishing remarks have have come out of it. It's slightly [00:13:57] slightly surreal, to be honest. I [00:14:00] I mean, this is a family battle that that has been played out in public [00:14:03] public over many, many, many years. years. And if you like a contest [00:14:06] contest for the legacy of who's controlling controlling the legacy of the women [00:14:10] women who for a long time was the the most famous woman in the world, [00:14:13] world, you know, not just here in in the UK where we're speaking in [00:14:15] in London but around the world known [00:14:18] known everywhere for, of course, course, the sadness around her, her [00:14:22] her and Prince Charles's failed marriage, marriage, but also her campaigning, [00:14:24] campaigning, her busting of conventions. conventions. And then of course, [00:14:27] course, that terrible accident which [00:14:29] which saw her lose her life. But [00:14:32] But the timing of this interview interview also, which was just hours [00:14:35] hours 12 or so hours after Buckingham Buckingham Palace had put its statement statement out, meant that rather [00:14:38] rather than just being a conversation conversation about what Earl Spencer [00:14:42] Spencer wanted to say, it was transformed transformed into a conversation about [00:14:46] about integrity and truth and who [00:14:48] who was telling the truth. And you you know, I've interviewed lots of [00:14:51] of people over the years as you have have to, but to have a conversation [00:14:54] conversation with someone who's questioning questioning the integrity of the [00:14:57] the head of state is something that [00:15:01] that is pretty unusual. And you can can watch the full interview as you [00:15:04] you see here in the UK on iPlayer, iPlayer, but there'll be excerpts excerpts on YouTube and it'll be [00:15:07] be available in other parts of the [00:15:09] the world too. So yeah, it's a it's [00:15:12] it's an important conversation. And And I think whatever you think of [00:15:15] of either family here, the Spencers Spencers and Windsors have rivalries rivalries that go back for hundreds [00:15:19] hundreds of years. You know, there's there's a lot of history here to [00:15:23] to this is like it or not a public [00:15:27] public conversation. And it is a [00:15:30] a matter of historical record. The The interview that you certainly [00:15:32] certainly won't forget Laura either. either. Thank you very much for joining [00:15:35] joining us in the studio to take take us through that. And a reminder, [00:15:38] reminder, as Laura said there, you you can now watch that full interview [00:15:42] interview here in the UK on iPlayer. iPlayer. It's now available. You [00:15:45] You can also watch it around the the world on the BBC News channel [00:15:48] channel on a special programme which which will be at 7pm BST and of course [00:15:52] course you can watch it at 7pm if if you're in the UK as well, and [00:15:55] and it will air on BBC One at 6:30 [00:15:59] 6:30 pm. So lots of ways to watch [00:16:00] watch that full interview with Laura. [00:16:03] Laura. The authorities in Moscow Moscow say at least two people have [00:16:06] have been killed and six injured injured in a massive overnight Ukrainian [00:16:09] Ukrainian drone attack on the city. city. Posting this footage on social [00:16:13] social media this morning, Ukrainian Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky Zelensky confirmed that Kyiv had [00:16:17] had hit a key Russian oil facility facility and a logistics site in [00:16:20] in the region. The targets, he said, said, represented billions of dollars [00:16:23] dollars that sustain the war machine. machine. Meanwhile, Moscow's mayor [00:16:26] mayor says it was the largest drone drone attack on the Russian capital [00:16:30] capital yet with some 450 drones [00:16:33] drones heading for the capital shot shot down. Russian authorities accuse [00:16:36] accuse Ukraine of trying to disrupt disrupt the country's parliamentary [00:16:39] parliamentary elections, which end end today. They claim more than 1600 [00:16:43] 1600 drones have been repelled since since Saturday. Our Russia editor, [00:16:47] editor, Steve Rosenberg, is in Moscow. Moscow. I asked him more about these [00:16:50] these elections and the reaction [00:16:52] reaction to these attacks. Well. First of all, the reaction [00:16:55] reaction no sense of surprise here. here. More a kind of quiet resignation. [00:16:58] resignation. I think that after more more than four and a half years of [00:17:01] of Russia's war on Ukraine, Muscovites [00:17:04] Muscovites have got used to their their city periodically becoming [00:17:07] becoming a frontline. And many people, people, I think, had expected attacks attacks during the election. This [00:17:11] This is one of the polling stations stations just behind me. But in the [00:17:14] the centre. But earlier today we we were at a polling station very [00:17:18] very close to the oil refinery that that got hit. One young voter told [00:17:21] told me that he'd heard the explosions. explosions. He'd heard loud bangs. [00:17:24] bangs. He said it was a bad situation. situation. I spoke to an older voter [00:17:28] voter who said he wants peace, but [00:17:30] but by peace he means Ukraine's defeat. [00:17:34] defeat. As for the election, while while the whole process is tightly tightly controlled by the Kremlin, [00:17:38] Kremlin, and I think Vladimir Putin Putin will want to use the election [00:17:41] election and the results to be announced announced later to try to show that [00:17:44] that the whole country is behind [00:17:47] behind the Kremlin, behind the war war in Ukraine, almost to give him [00:17:50] him a mandate to continue with the [00:17:52] the special military operation. That That Russia editor Steve Rosenberg [00:17:56] Rosenberg there. Well, I've been been speaking to our reporter from [00:17:58] from the BBC's Russian service Sergey Sergey Goryashko, about Russia's [00:18:02] Russia's claims that Ukraine is trying trying to derail those parliamentary [00:18:05] parliamentary elections. Russia's Russia's authorities are at the same [00:18:09] same time claim that neither those [00:18:12] those attacks nor the attacks on [00:18:15] on the cyber infrastructure would [00:18:17] would have any effect on the ongoing [00:18:20] ongoing election. And the process [00:18:22] process is going just as usual. And [00:18:25] And they expect the Russians to show [00:18:29] show their support for Vladimir Putin [00:18:32] Putin and for his ongoing invasion [00:18:34] invasion in Ukraine. At least that's [00:18:36] that's the official line for now. now. That's the official line. What [00:18:40] What is the sense that you're getting getting from people you know in the [00:18:43] the country about how the conflict conflict and how it's continuing [00:18:46] continuing on is playing into all all of this, especially when Russia's [00:18:49] Russia's economy is obviously not [00:18:50] not doing too well. Of course, people [00:18:54] people are regular people are not [00:18:57] not happy with the current economic economic situation, with the surge [00:19:01] surge in gas prices and obviously [00:19:05] obviously with the rigged elections elections as well. So as we know, [00:19:09] know, the only anti-war party, Yabloko [00:19:12] Yabloko has been barred from participating [00:19:15] participating in those elections. elections. And now none of the parties [00:19:18] parties participate in the Rob Cameron [00:19:20] Cameron of them criticise the ongoing [00:19:23] ongoing invasion. So for many people [00:19:26] people this could lead to some state [00:19:28] state of depression and to their [00:19:31] their unwillingness to go to the the polling stations because the [00:19:34] the result the outcome of these elections [00:19:36] elections is already known beforehand. [00:19:39] beforehand. However, some in Moscow [00:19:42] Moscow went today to vote as they [00:19:44] they were urged by other opposition [00:19:48] opposition leaders that the good good thing would be to vote on Sunday. [00:19:51] Sunday. On the last day of this elections [00:19:55] elections and that would make more more difficult for the authorities [00:19:58] authorities to rig the results. And [00:20:00] And in Moscow we see lines of people people around the polling stations [00:20:04] stations which formed not because because so many people came, but [00:20:07] but rather because there was an alleged alleged attack on the cyber infrastructure. [00:20:11] infrastructure. So for now, Russians, Russians, people in Moscow cannot [00:20:15] cannot get their paper ballots at at the polling stations and they [00:20:18] they are urged to vote online. The [00:20:22] The problem appeared because of an an alleged cyber attack, which does [00:20:25] does not allow the workers of the the polling stations to issue the [00:20:29] the paper ballots. And breaking news [00:20:31] news coming to us from the AFP news news agency. And an explosion has [00:20:35] has been heard near Erbil airport, [00:20:37] airport, which hosts US led coalition [00:20:39] coalition troops in Iraq's autonomous autonomous Kurdistan region. The [00:20:43] The cause of the explosion remains remains unclear, and a journalist [00:20:46] journalist from the AFP has reported reported seeing grey smoke rising [00:20:50] rising from near the airport area. area. We don't have any more details [00:20:53] details at the moment, nor do we [00:20:54] we know who was behind the attack. [00:20:57] attack. Voting is under way in two two German states for regional elections, [00:21:01] elections, which may further weaken weaken Friedrich Mertz's position position as chancellor. He's already [00:21:04] already cancelled plans to attend attend the UN General Assembly in [00:21:07] in New York this week as speculation speculation grows about his future. [00:21:10] future. Well, those votes are taking taking place in the capital Berlin [00:21:12] Berlin and also in the Mecklenburg-Western Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania region. [00:21:16] region. Our Berlin correspondent correspondent Jessica Parker has [00:21:18] has more on why there's so much pressure [00:21:20] pressure on Chancellor Merz. A regional regional election in Germany are [00:21:24] are getting a lot of attention at at the moment, but there was one one in Saxony-Anhalt a couple of [00:21:28] of weeks ago where the anti-immigration [00:21:31] anti-immigration Russia friendly friendly Alternative fur Deutschland [00:21:33] Deutschland party won a landslide landslide victory, polling top by [00:21:37] by a long way. And that is a party [00:21:40] party that Chancellor Friedrich Merz Merz had intended had planned to [00:21:44] to curtail their support. But actually actually the opposite has been happening [00:21:48] happening and that has alarmed people people within his conservative CDU [00:21:51] CDU party. Added to that, Chancellor Chancellor Friedrich Merz is experiencing [00:21:55] experiencing extremely personally personally low approval ratings while [00:21:58] while voters voice frustration about about a range of issues the cost [00:22:02] cost of living Germany's sluggish sluggish economy. Immigration is [00:22:05] is one that comes up a lot as well. [00:22:08] well. So Chancellor Friedrich Merz Merz suffering in terms of popularity [00:22:11] popularity at the moment and there there has now been for months swirling [00:22:15] swirling rumours about the idea of of a kanzler torture Chancellor swap [00:22:18] swap could and this is not normal normal in German politics. But could [00:22:21] could his party seek to place somebody [00:22:24] somebody else in charge now? We're We're not there yet, but people are [00:22:28] are looking at these results tonight tonight in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and here in [00:22:31] in Berlin. And if they're really really bad for the CDU party, then [00:22:34] then I think we can expect further [00:22:37] further growing speculation, intensified intensified pressure on Friedrich Friedrich Merz about whether he can [00:22:41] can keep the top job in German politics. politics. And is that essentially, [00:22:45] essentially, Jessica, why he's not not going to New York, to the UN [00:22:48] UN General Assembly? So we haven't [00:22:52] haven't been told precisely why a a government official told me that [00:22:56] that his presence was required in [00:22:58] in Berlin. But as you say, we learned learned earlier in the week that [00:23:02] that he had cancelled his planned planned trip to speak at the UN General [00:23:06] General Assembly in New York, and [00:23:08] and he has got lined up a series [00:23:10] series of meetings with people in [00:23:14] in his party. One tonight, we believe, believe, reportedly with some senior [00:23:17] senior party figures, but it's widely widely being read. The cancellation cancellation to New York, these meetings [00:23:21] meetings that he's set to hold as as an attempt to try and shore up [00:23:25] up his position because the Chancellor Chancellor is saying that he's going [00:23:27] going to carry on. He's got a planned, planned, delayed package of reforms [00:23:30] reforms that are due before the Bundestag, [00:23:34] Bundestag, and he's basically and and his backers are saying, you know, know, we need a bit more time to [00:23:37] to deliver the change that Germany Germany needs. But time may be and [00:23:40] and as of course we don't know at at the moment and there's no challenger [00:23:44] challenger that has come out publicly publicly against Friedrich Merz. Merz. But I think the fear in Friedrich [00:23:48] Friedrich Mertz's camp is he could [00:23:50] could be running out of time. That's [00:23:53] That's the BBC's Jessica Parker in in Berlin. We will, of course, stay [00:23:57] stay across those elections as the the polls close in a couple of hours [00:23:59] hours from now. Aleema Khan, the [00:24:02] the sister of Pakistan's jailed former former Prime Minister Imran Khan, [00:24:05] Khan, has been reportedly arrested arrested in Lahore. A spokesman for [00:24:08] for Mr Khan's PTI party says Aleema Aleema Khan was arrested at her home [00:24:12] home on Sunday that was ahead of of a planned party protest march, [00:24:16] march, which is due to take place place next week. While the government [00:24:19] government and police have yet to to comment. Former cricketer Imran [00:24:21] Imran Khan has been in prison since [00:24:24] since August 2023 after being convicted convicted on a number of charges [00:24:28] charges which he says are politically politically motivated. Let's take [00:24:31] take a look at some of the day's day's other news now. The new school [00:24:34] school year has begun in Gaza, with with more than 500,000 children returning [00:24:37] returning to formal education for for the first time in nearly three [00:24:40] three years. The UN says 97% of schools [00:24:42] schools in Gaza were damaged or destroyed destroyed in fighting since the Israel-Gaza [00:24:46] Israel-Gaza war began. Working alongside alongside UN agencies, the education [00:24:50] education ministry has opened about about 700 education facilities, some [00:24:54] some as simple as a tent. Police Police in the Netherlands have clashed [00:24:57] clashed with several hundred far far right protesters in the centre centre of The Hague. Authorities [00:25:01] Authorities ordered a planned anti-immigration anti-immigration demonstration be [00:25:04] be broken up after it spiralled into into violence as protesters were [00:25:07] were gathering at a local park, demonstrators demonstrators threw fireworks and [00:25:11] and projectiles at riot police and and chanted antisemitic slogans. [00:25:13] slogans. At least 24 people have [00:25:16] have been arrested. The American American footwear company converse [00:25:19] converse has withdrawn an advert advert after criticism it evoked [00:25:22] evoked imagery of the white supremacist supremacist group the Ku Klux Klan. [00:25:26] Klan. Social media users said shadows shadows in the photograph resembled [00:25:29] resembled a pointed white pointed pointed hood, while a pair of dangling [00:25:32] dangling shoes was likened to an [00:25:34] an image of lynching. In Ed Sheeran's [00:25:40] Sheeran's first concert since his his support act Macklemore was dropped [00:25:43] dropped over pro-Palestinian comments comments on stage, Ed Sheeran has [00:25:46] has directly addressed the controversy. controversy. Speaking before his [00:25:50] his concert in Philadelphia, the the British singer described the [00:25:52] the situation in Gaza as catastrophic catastrophic and unjustifiable. He [00:25:56] He said the Hamas attacks on Israel [00:25:59] Israel on October 2023 were horrific, horrific, and added that Israel's [00:26:01] Israel's response since had been been disproportionate. You can see [00:26:05] see more about what Ed Sheeran said said on [00:27:38] of the week. [00:29:58] online at bbc.com/business to get get the latest news wherever you [00:30:00] you are. Business on BBC News. Make [00:30:03] Make the connection. MUSIC [00:30:13] MUSIC [00:30:21] These are the latest headlines [00:30:23] from BBC News. In an exclusive interview [00:30:26] interview to the BBC. Earl Spencer Spencer stands by his claims that [00:30:29] that the then Prince Charles sounded [00:30:31] sounded giddily elated on the night [00:30:34] night that Princess Diana died. At At least two people are killed in [00:30:37] in the Moscow region after a massive massive Ukrainian drone attack overnight. [00:30:40] overnight. The mayor of Moscow claims claims 450 drones were directed at [00:30:44] at the city. Russia says it's an an attempt to disrupt the country's [00:30:47] country's parliamentary elections. elections. German Chancellor Friedrich Friedrich Merz faces growing political [00:30:51] political pressure as local elections elections are taking place in two [00:30:54] two German states. Opinion polls polls suggest the Chancellor's parties [00:30:56] parties at risk of damaging defeats, defeats, raising questions about