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Exploring the latest innovation and technology [00:01:24] technology shaping our lives and and with the inside track on global [00:01:27] global trends and advancements in in the tech space today. From AI [00:01:31] AI and robotics to health, climate, [00:01:33] climate, transport and gaming tech. [00:01:36] tech. Now. [00:01:55] We're on top of where we think the hot spot is, and we can see on [00:01:59] on the camera. In fact, we're right right above it. We are. And you can [00:02:03] can really smell it as well. Hi. [00:02:06] Hi. Do you mind if I film this? Thank Thank you. Can I ask if I hadn't [00:02:10] hadn't asked you if I was filming, filming, would you have known? Pretty [00:02:13] Pretty much. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks [00:02:14] Thanks very much. Private communication [00:02:18] communication is a fundamental human human right for a reason. And you [00:02:21] you undermine end to end encryption encryption in one point. And you [00:02:24] you poisoned it for everyone [00:02:29] here. A new wave of modern day farmers farmers are harnessing the country's [00:02:31] country's plentiful, cheap and clean [00:02:34] clean electricity to grow fruits [00:02:36] fruits and vegetables. 360 degrees. [00:02:45] degrees. This is the tech that can can find fires hidden beneath the [00:02:49] the forest floor. Wow. There. It's It's there. It's really now cooking [00:02:52] cooking away. The drones are a game game changer without the thermal [00:02:55] thermal technology, we would be totally [00:02:58] totally blind to this. The Cairngorms [00:03:02] Cairngorms are the jewel in the crown [00:03:04] crown of the UK's national parks. [00:03:07] parks. There's something just so so special about being here. You [00:03:10] You can smell the pine in the air [00:03:13] air and you're really just at one [00:03:15] one with nature. It's a sanctuary [00:03:21] sanctuary to a quarter of the UK's [00:03:23] UK's rare and endangered species. species. The wildlife and the habitats [00:03:27] habitats that you find here are unique unique to Scotland. Some of the species [00:03:30] species we're best known for are are capercaillie, the largest woodland [00:03:34] woodland grouse species that you [00:03:35] you find in the world. Red squirrels, [00:03:39] squirrels, wildcat pine marten. This [00:03:41] This place is incredibly special. But in the summer [00:03:44] special. But in the summer of 2026, [00:03:48] 2026, wildfire tore through 33km2 [00:03:51] 33km2 of this landscape. Controlling [00:03:58] Controlling it from the ground was was very challenging. We weren't weren't able to get it under control [00:04:01] control and that's why we needed needed support. That's when thermal [00:04:05] thermal drones were brought in. So So a couple of days into the fire, [00:04:08] fire, it was clear that we needed needed to gather more information [00:04:11] information that agencies were lacking, lacking, that aerial coverage to [00:04:14] to inform their on the ground activities. [00:04:17] activities. We scrambled up a drone drone team and we worked together [00:04:20] together with the agencies on the the ground and provided a really [00:04:22] really high quality set of information [00:04:24] information from the drone. The drones [00:04:27] drones helped crews bring the fire [00:04:30] fire under control, but this is what [00:04:32] what was left behind. You can just [00:04:36] just see how black scorched and charred [00:04:38] charred everything is. Take this this bark for example. It smells [00:04:42] smells like a fire. It's completely completely destroyed. It's black. [00:04:45] black. It's just such a shame to [00:04:47] to see the devastation here. And [00:04:50] And it's not over beneath the forest [00:04:52] forest floor, fires are still burning. [00:04:55] burning. All the while we've got got burning happening in the forest. [00:04:58] forest. We will never be able to [00:05:00] to relax. We're still on high alert. [00:05:03] alert. There's still a duty for us us to be doing regular checks with [00:05:07] with the drone and to pinpoint hotspots. [00:05:10] hotspots. So before sunrise, I meet [00:05:11] meet Pete to see if we can find any. [00:05:19] any. Wow, this is stunning. So this this is where we'll start our survey. [00:05:22] survey. And your job is to be the [00:05:23] the drone spotter. Your job really [00:05:27] really is to maintain visual line line of sight of the drone at all all times. It just means I can get [00:05:31] get on with the job at hand, which which is turning on the infrared [00:05:33] infrared camera and searching for [00:05:36] for hotspots. There's a heat sensor [00:05:46] sensor in the drone so we can see see ourselves just in the track. [00:05:48] track. There. OK, so I'll just have have a really good scan now for hot [00:05:52] hot spots in this area. What are are our chances of finding one today? [00:05:55] today? Every week I hope that I find find none on the last thermal flight [00:05:58] flight I did, we found eight. We We might have something here. I can [00:06:02] can see a white hot glow just beneath beneath the base of one of the trees [00:06:06] trees here. That really needs further further investigation. That could could well be a hot spot. This is [00:06:10] is three months after the fire ignited ignited and we're still finding these [00:06:13] these hotspots. So what we'll do, do, we'll go over there and see what [00:06:16] what we can see. Let's bring the [00:06:21] the drone a bit closer. We're on [00:06:25] on top of where we think that hot [00:06:27] hot spot is. And we can see on the [00:06:29] the camera there. In fact, we're we're right above it. We are. And [00:06:32] And you can really smell it as well. [00:06:35] well. Every hot spot has the potential potential to cause another flare [00:06:37] flare up in the right weather conditions. conditions. So it's really important important that we alert the land [00:06:41] land manager here in this case the the RSPB, and they get a crew out [00:06:44] out to this to put it out. Well, Well, yeah, you bring your hand around [00:06:48] around here. I think the fire is is quite far under the ground. The [00:06:51] The soil is feeling really warm to to the touch. I think this will need [00:06:55] need seriously digging out and dousing dousing with water without the thermal [00:06:58] thermal technology we would be totally totally blind to this. So I'm just [00:07:00] just going to pass you this rock. rock. Wow, that is warm, isn't it? [00:07:03] it? It's holding the temperature temperature from a small fire burning [00:07:07] burning underneath the ground [00:07:11] here. One hot spot found and reported [00:07:12] reported but were not finished yet. [00:07:17] yet. So it looks like it's yeah, [00:07:20] yeah, it's pretty much there. Yep. Yep. You're getting closer. I think [00:07:23] think it's under there. Does it feel feel warm at all? A wee bit here. [00:07:27] here. Yeah. OK. Oh yeah. Wow. There. [00:07:31] There. It's there. And look you get [00:07:32] get smoke coming up. And just removing [00:07:35] removing a thin layer of earth there. there. It's really now cooking away [00:07:39] away and you just feel how hot that that is. Yeah, absolutely. So it's it's paramount that we report this [00:07:42] this to the land managers and they they get a crew on this quickly to [00:07:45] to put it out. I just think it's it's amazing that the technology [00:07:48] technology has shown us where these these hotspots are. I mean, with [00:07:52] with the naked eye, you can't really really tell anything. We've stoked [00:07:55] stoked the fire a bit now and the the smoke is really coming up, so [00:07:58] so you can just see how hot it really [00:08:00] really is under the ground. RSPB [00:08:04] RSPB Warden Cameron has arrived to [00:08:05] to put out one of our hotspots. We're [00:08:09] We're living in an age where the the technology is helping us fight [00:08:12] fight fires. I'm excited to see where [00:08:14] where that's going to go. Oh. 360 [00:08:24] 360 degrees. With climate change, [00:08:28] change, we're only going to see more more of these kind of events and [00:08:31] and it might be flooding. It might might be landslides. There could [00:08:33] could be other climate change associated [00:08:36] associated crises that we as a park park authority and our partners need [00:08:39] need to respond to. Despite all the [00:08:45] the black and all the devastation, devastation, there are some signs [00:08:48] signs of life. I've even noticed [00:08:50] noticed a flower. So yeah, you can [00:08:53] can see here we're actually stood stood in one of these little pockets [00:08:56] pockets of resilience here, these these wetter damper pockets, they're [00:08:59] they're little natural fire breaks breaks throughout the forest. We [00:09:03] We don't know the exact impact of of the fire yet. The key thing is [00:09:06] is we know that nature is resilient. [00:09:11] resilient. It may need a helping helping hand, but it will recover. [00:09:14] recover. Some of that will be incredibly incredibly quick. Some of it will [00:09:17] will take years, decades or even even beyond our lifetime. Seeing [00:09:21] Seeing those signs of life is really [00:09:23] really heartening. I think without without drones in this situation, [00:09:26] situation, we would have been in in a very, very, very different place. place. You know, we could still have [00:09:30] have significant fires now. And they'll they'll continue to play an important [00:09:34] important role in helping this landscape landscape recover in years to come. [00:09:38] come. The drone survey is absolutely absolutely critical so we can keep [00:09:41] keep an eye on the whole area. But But also it will allow us to monitor [00:09:45] monitor and track that change over [00:09:47] over time. The drone can be programmed programmed to follow a route using [00:09:50] using what are known as waypoints. waypoints. It will take regular snapshots [00:09:54] snapshots to build a continuous picture [00:09:56] picture of the landscape. The standard standard drone route will have exactly [00:10:00] exactly the same route flown month month by month, year by year, and [00:10:04] and it visually it's going to give give us some amazing information [00:10:06] information about how it's recovering. [00:10:08] recovering. From finding fires hidden hidden beneath the ground to watching [00:10:12] watching new life return above it. it. These drones will keep a watchful [00:10:16] watchful eye over this landscape [00:10:17] landscape long after the last hot [00:10:20] hot spot has gone. [00:10:34] Play Dua Lipa. Like hell to [00:10:38] burn when I'm not there and you're [00:10:41] you're by yourself. Hey, do you mind mind if I film this? Thank you. Can [00:10:44] Can I just get a cup of tea, please? [00:10:46] please? Thank you so much. Like I [00:10:52] I like. Amazing. Thank you. Can I [00:11:00] I ask if I hadn't asked you if I I was filming, would you have known? [00:11:04] known? Pretty much, yeah. Have you you seen these glasses before? Yeah, [00:11:06] Yeah, yeah. Do you like them? Yeah. [00:11:09] Yeah. Thank you. Thanks very much. [00:11:11] much. A positive reception here to to my smart glasses when the camera's [00:11:15] camera's filming, a white light should should come on to indicate it's recording, [00:11:19] recording, but the glasses have faced faced serious criticism for being [00:11:22] being used by some to secretly film film and harass women and girls. [00:11:25] girls. It should never, ever have [00:11:27] have left the lab at Meta. It's a [00:11:30] a tool for it can be useful for the [00:11:32] the blind, but essentially it is is something that that doesn't belong [00:11:36] belong in, in your glasses. You know, know, it should never ever have been [00:11:39] been mass marketed to the public public in that way. Liz Hunter campaigns [00:11:42] campaigns at Stop Smart Glasses, Glasses, which is trying to prevent [00:11:45] prevent the mass market sale of smart [00:11:47] smart glasses with cameras. Why do do you want them banned? The other [00:11:51] other big tech players are in the [00:11:53] the wings kind of waiting to launch [00:11:55] launch their version of these glasses, glasses, and it's really so disturbing [00:11:59] disturbing to think that soon even even more of these devices will have [00:12:02] have flooded the market and it will [00:12:03] will be so much harder to walk back [00:12:06] back if it reaches that saturation [00:12:09] saturation point, we hope that that that they become to be viewed as [00:12:12] as just so tragic and shameful that [00:12:15] that people choose to not buy them. [00:12:19] them. Meta says it's worked hard hard to prevent people from disabling [00:12:23] disabling their lights to hide when [00:12:25] when they're filming rival brand [00:12:27] brand HTC Vive Eagle says if anyone [00:12:29] anyone around wearers of its glasses glasses say stop filming, the camera [00:12:33] camera will switch off. Is the solution solution just to not put cameras [00:12:37] cameras in them? Yes. To please. [00:12:41] please. You know we don't need them. [00:12:42] them. We don't want them. It's this [00:12:46] this is a completely unnecessary unnecessary piece of technology when [00:12:48] when it's used for the public and [00:12:51] and they're not safe and they need [00:12:52] need to be banned. Meta has now unveiled [00:12:56] unveiled a potential solution. This [00:12:59] This is the new product coming from from Meta. They're called Ray-Ban [00:13:01] Ray-Ban Meta Audio. They do everything everything the current glasses do. do. You can listen to music. You [00:13:05] You can make phone calls. You can can send messages. What you can't [00:13:08] can't do is film on them because because they don't have a camera [00:13:11] camera and they don't record anything [00:13:14] anything either. These are our first first audio only glasses. We've been [00:13:17] been working on them for two years. years. They're based off of the number [00:13:21] number one feature that people love [00:13:22] love audio. It includes music playing [00:13:26] playing hands free calls and all all of it in our lightest form factor [00:13:29] factor we've ever had before. So [00:13:31] So that means no camera. That's right. [00:13:33] right. There's no camera on these these glasses. They're very much [00:13:37] much designed for maximum comfort comfort and be able to, you know, [00:13:40] know, be our, you know, our slimmest slimmest profile glasses that we've [00:13:42] we've had. And also no recording. recording. That's correct. Recording. [00:13:46] Recording. Do you think that that's that's going to be very popular? [00:13:50] popular? Yeah, we're excited about about it. We think that there's a [00:13:53] a variety of different needs and and use cases for consumers. And [00:13:56] And we want to offer different options options for different people based [00:13:59] based on what they're looking for. for. It's also coming in at the most most accessible price point within [00:14:03] within the product line. So if you're you're looking for, you know, a great great pair of audio glasses, we now [00:14:07] now have a product for you. Is this [00:14:10] this in response to the misuse of of the glasses? You know, we've seen [00:14:13] seen numerous incidents haven't we [00:14:16] we particularly involving harassment harassment of women. We've been actually [00:14:19] actually working on Ray-Ban Meta Meta audio for two years. It's something something that's really borne off [00:14:23] off of something we've known about about our customer base for some [00:14:27] some time, which is that audio is [00:14:28] is one of our top use cases. For [00:14:32] For people who are blind and for for workers in trades such as construction, [00:14:36] construction, smart glasses can offer offer hands free help by describing [00:14:40] describing surroundings and identifying identifying objects. Other tech companies [00:14:43] companies are also eyeing the market market and hoping smart glasses will [00:14:46] will feature in lots of letters to to Santa this Christmas, but perhaps [00:14:50] perhaps that depends on whether they they can lose their reputation for [00:14:54] for being creepy. MUSIC [00:15:59] high for Republicans and Democrats Democrats and for the American people. people. For the latest, follow us [00:16:03] us on the President's path here. [00:16:05] here. On BBC News. MUSIC [00:16:13] MUSIC [00:16:18] The risk is very real, but it's not [00:16:22] not the shiny ghost stories that [00:16:24] that the wild eyed boys are telling [00:16:26] telling us right now. AI doom is [00:16:29] is dominating the headlines, but but the President of signal, the [00:16:33] the encrypted messaging app and one one of the most influential women [00:16:37] women in the space, is telling us [00:16:39] us to slow down. You would have to [00:16:42] to draw back on a lot of this. You [00:16:44] You would have to put measures in [00:16:47] in place that slow things down, that [00:16:49] that leave room for judgement, that [00:16:51] that allow institutions and experts experts to say AI is not appropriate [00:16:55] appropriate here. We should be insisting [00:16:58] insisting on robust engineering, engineering, robust technical practices, [00:17:02] practices, all of which slow down down markets, all of which might [00:17:05] might affect valuations. Meredith [00:17:09] Meredith Whittaker leads signal, signal, a messaging app built around [00:17:12] around privacy as a core tenet with [00:17:15] with an estimated 40 to 70 million [00:17:18] million users. When you and I are are talking on signal only, you and [00:17:22] and I can read that messages. We [00:17:24] We live in a world where almost everything [00:17:28] everything we do our connections, connections, our communities, our [00:17:31] our locations, our preferences, our [00:17:34] our communications are surveilled surveilled and logged by a handful handful of companies that use them [00:17:38] them to sell ads that can give them them to governments that are picked [00:17:42] picked up by data brokers, sold to [00:17:45] to ideological fringe groups around [00:17:49] around 2017. Whittaker gained public public recognition as a co-organizer [00:17:53] co-organizer of the Google [00:17:58] Cover ups have got to go. Which [00:18:00] saw more than 20,000 employees and [00:18:03] and contractors take part. A former [00:18:06] former AI researcher at Google, she she had raised concerns about the [00:18:10] the ethical risks of AI systems, [00:18:13] systems, including their potential [00:18:14] potential use in military applications. [00:18:17] applications. I was alarmed by this. [00:18:19] this. This is going to supercharge supercharge mistakes. This is going [00:18:23] going to launder bad intelligence intelligence and bad data. This is [00:18:26] is going to paint a veneer of objectivity [00:18:30] objectivity and intelligence on systems systems that are basically just sort [00:18:33] sort of, you know, drawing on the the same bad Intel that we've always [00:18:35] always had access to. Whittaker and [00:18:38] and apps such as signal face criticism [00:18:41] criticism of their own. Not everyone [00:18:44] everyone supports absolute privacy privacy this year, the UK government [00:18:48] government said encrypted messaging messaging apps could face restrictions [00:18:51] restrictions as part of efforts to [00:18:53] to tackle child abuse and the sharing [00:18:55] sharing of explicit imagery. Private [00:19:00] Private communication is a fundamental fundamental human right for a reason [00:19:03] reason and you undermine end. To To end encryption in one point and [00:19:06] and you have poisoned it for everyone. [00:19:09] everyone. It no longer protects anyone. [00:19:11] anyone. If you and. I talk in five [00:19:14] five years' time, what is the what [00:19:17] what kind of conversation do you you hope that we'll be having? Right [00:19:20] Right now our visions are being written written by people whose motivations [00:19:24] motivations are often aligned with with the profit and growth of a very [00:19:28] very narrow industry. Products and [00:19:32] and technologies should not be dominating dominating the vision for what it [00:19:35] it looks like to move forward as [00:19:37] as a human population. [00:19:53] With its cold climate and lava [00:19:56] field landscapes, Iceland is a remote [00:19:58] remote island sitting just below below the Arctic Circle. Farmland [00:20:02] Farmland is limited here, but the [00:20:04] the country has an abundance of heat, [00:20:08] heat, water and clean electricity. [00:20:11] electricity. And here in Keflavik Keflavik we're seeing how agri tech [00:20:15] tech is turning that into an advantage. [00:20:17] advantage. This may. Seem like an an unlikely place, but I'm about [00:20:21] about to visit a farm below [00:20:27] ground. This is an growing room. room. We are growing Japanese strawberry. [00:20:30] strawberry. Wow, there's so many. [00:20:33] many. When you think of Iceland, Iceland, northern climes, strawberries [00:20:36] strawberries probably aren't the the first crop that. Spring to mind. [00:20:39] mind. But down here more than 5000 [00:20:41] 5000 plants are growing. Two years [00:20:44] years ago, Ken quit his. IT industry industry job and came to Iceland [00:20:48] Iceland to set up this indoor farm. [00:20:50] farm. I think Iceland is the best best place to grow Japanese strawberry [00:20:54] strawberry and apart from Japan. [00:20:56] Japan. So I decided to move here. [00:20:58] here. The premium fruit is sold through through an online shop to local buyers [00:21:02] buyers and restaurants. This one one is the best. Oh, that's a big [00:21:06] big one. That looks delicious. Aroma [00:21:10] Aroma is a good texture. It's a very [00:21:13] very beautiful. Oh, it's very sweet [00:21:15] sweet here. A new wave of modern [00:21:18] modern day farmers are harnessing harnessing the country's plentiful, [00:21:21] plentiful, cheap and clean electricity [00:21:24] electricity to grow fruits and vegetables. [00:21:28] vegetables. That's important because [00:21:30] because facilities like this are are also energy intensive. Indoor [00:21:34] Indoor farm use a lot of electricity. [00:21:37] electricity. Iceland can provide [00:21:38] provide natural energy from geothermal [00:21:41] geothermal and then Icelandic water water is very pure. So it's a very [00:21:45] very good match. From lights to watering [00:21:49] watering systems, temperature and and humidity. It's taken many months [00:21:52] months to get the conditions just just right. This is one of the new [00:21:56] new agricultural system and how huge. [00:22:00] huge. More than 45 hectares of greenhouses greenhouses and indoor farms are [00:22:04] are now found in Iceland. And while [00:22:06] while most food is still imported, [00:22:08] imported, they grow crops like tomatoes, [00:22:11] tomatoes, salads and even wasabi. [00:22:15] wasabi. Meanwhile, Iceland's renewable renewable energy and cool climate [00:22:18] climate has attracted another industry [00:22:22] industry data centres and this Start-Up Start-Up has an innovation that's [00:22:25] that's quite literally out of the [00:22:27] the box capturing waste heat from [00:22:29] from data and turning it into dinner. [00:22:33] dinner. So welcome to the pod. The The recovered heat is channelled [00:22:36] channelled to food growing pods converted converted from shipping containers. [00:22:40] containers. Here we try with microgreens microgreens because they're super [00:22:43] super efficient. After carrying out [00:22:46] out trials at a data centre, this this demonstration unit has now been [00:22:49] been set up in a business park to [00:22:52] to run test simulations. We connect connect directly to the exhaust from [00:22:55] from the data centre. The heat is is coming through that wall. Everything [00:22:58] Everything is happening behind this [00:23:00] this wall to mix the air and making making sure we have a homogeneous [00:23:04] homogeneous temperature all around around the pod. The idea is to tackle [00:23:07] tackle two issues in one go 80%. Of our fresh fruits and vegetables [00:23:11] vegetables are imported. This is is a huge carbon footprint for the the island and also the variety of [00:23:15] of fruits and vegetables you can can get is limited. So we started started the process thinking, OK, [00:23:19] OK, how could we grow more food? food? It's still an early stage, [00:23:22] stage, but the Start-Up hopes to to launch commercial pods later this [00:23:26] this year that can support fruit fruit growing and greens. We're able [00:23:29] able to capture heat at around 2527 [00:23:32] 2527 degrees, and that means we can [00:23:33] can grow anything from microgreens, microgreens, strawberries, tomatoes [00:23:37] tomatoes and what we're looking at [00:23:38] at right now also is aquaculture. [00:23:42] aquaculture. Less than 20km from from this geothermal plant, indoor [00:23:45] indoor growing systems have been [00:23:48] been taken to another level. So here [00:23:52] here we have the green phase. So So everything. Is green. This dazzling [00:23:55] dazzling display is part of an aquaculture aquaculture facility where Icelandic [00:23:59] Icelandic firm Al-khalaf is cultivating cultivating microalgae. We are growing [00:24:03] growing the algae from just small small flasks up to the big reactors. [00:24:06] reactors. As you can see here, each [00:24:08] each reactor you see is 10,000l. [00:24:11] 10,000l. The light is helping the the algae photosynthesise the more [00:24:14] more light we can get, the more the [00:24:16] the algae will grow. The algae is [00:24:19] is fed CO2 and releases oxygen while [00:24:22] while lighting pH and temperature temperature are all tightly controlled. [00:24:25] controlled. We have lots of sensors, sensors, lots of ways to monitor [00:24:28] monitor the algae. We control the the temperature mainly through the [00:24:31] the air system. There's another benefit benefit of being in Iceland is that [00:24:35] that we have a nice cold temperature temperature outside and we just take [00:24:38] take the air, the cool air from outside [00:24:40] outside to cool here. After removing [00:24:43] removing the water and drying the the algae, they produce a compound [00:24:47] compound used in dietary supplements. supplements. We have to break the [00:24:49] the cells apart to release the xanthin, xanthin, and that goes into making [00:24:52] making an oil like a resin. We then then sell on to other companies that [00:24:56] that make small capsules. Running [00:24:59] Running 24/7. It's a power hungry [00:25:02] hungry process, but operating in in Iceland offers an advantage. We [00:25:05] We also take our energy from a geothermal geothermal power plant. You could [00:25:09] could have a facility in other places, places, but it would be much more [00:25:11] more costly. So it just makes everything everything much more sustainable [00:25:15] sustainable in terms of an economic economic footprint and also an environmental environmental footprint because of [00:25:19] of where the energy is coming from. [00:25:21] from. And so in a country where the [00:25:23] the climate limits what can be grown [00:25:25] grown innovators have found new ways [00:25:28] ways to produce. 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