BBCNEWS — BBC News 20261011 210000 UTC 1011 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:14] Live from London. This is BBC [00:00:16] News. President Zelensky welcomes [00:00:19] welcomes Donald Trump's idea of an an energy ceasefire, but says Russia [00:00:22] Russia is continuing to attack Ukrainian [00:00:24] Ukrainian power plants despite the [00:00:27] the announcement by the US., another [00:00:29] another strike hits Riyadh's international international airport in Saudi Arabia [00:00:33] Arabia a day after 13 people were were killed and hundreds wounded [00:00:37] wounded in a Houthi attack. At least [00:00:40] least 139 people have been killed, killed, including 15 children, in [00:00:44] in a deadly shipwreck off the coast [00:00:46] coast of Djibouti. Reform UK say [00:00:48] say that if they're elected at the the next election, they'll close [00:00:52] close down the UK's asylum system [00:00:55] system for five years here in the the UK, an investigation is under [00:00:58] under way into the fatal mauling mauling of a man at a wildlife park [00:01:01] park in the north of England and [00:01:04] and Manchester City win 3-0 against against Liverpool in their first [00:01:08] first match since being found guilty [00:01:10] guilty of breaching financial rules. [00:01:22] rules. Hello, I'm Catherine Byaruhanga. Byaruhanga. President Zelensky has [00:01:25] has accused Russia of striking Ukrainian [00:01:28] Ukrainian energy infrastructure after after President Trump claimed both [00:01:31] both sides had signed up to an energy [00:01:33] energy ceasefire. Initially, President President Zelensky said the announcement [00:01:36] announcement was news to him. He He has since posted to say he's discussed [00:01:40] discussed the energy ceasefire with with various world leaders and Ukraine [00:01:44] Ukraine backs the idea if Russia Russia supports it too. But questioned [00:01:48] questioned if Moscow really wants wants peace. Earlier, Donald Trump [00:01:51] Trump wrote on his Truth Social Platform Platform that an agreement between [00:01:55] between Russia and Ukraine to halt halt attacks on each other's energy [00:01:59] energy facilities would come into into effect immediately. In September. [00:02:02] September. A similar promise of such [00:02:04] such a ceasefire failed to materialise. materialise. Now it's been reported [00:02:08] reported by the Financial Times that that the US is threatening to stop [00:02:11] stop the procurement system that that provides Ukraine with weapons [00:02:14] weapons as part of its efforts to to press Kyiv to halt its strikes [00:02:18] strikes on Russian infrastructure. infrastructure. Our correspondent [00:02:21] correspondent Dan Johnson is in Kyiv Kyiv and has more on that initial [00:02:24] initial announcement from Donald Donald Trump. This seems to have [00:02:27] have come as a big surprise. Out Out of the blue, Donald Trump says [00:02:31] says both parties have agreed. We [00:02:32] We don't know what the Russian involvement involvement is, but for Ukrainians [00:02:36] Ukrainians this seemed to come out out of nowhere and there was no response. [00:02:39] response. For a time. The latest [00:02:41] latest that we've had is a post on [00:02:44] on X from President Volodymyr Zelensky, Zelensky, who said he'd been discussing [00:02:47] discussing this with other world world leaders and that he supports [00:02:51] supports the ceasefire and it's important important for Russia to support it [00:02:54] it as well. He said we are awaiting awaiting details from the American [00:02:58] American side. From our side there there is always full support for [00:03:02] for de-escalation steps, protection protection of lives and the necessary [00:03:05] necessary decisions to end the war war and ensure lasting peace. So [00:03:08] So it seems like rather than being being negotiated jointly, this was [00:03:11] was announced unilaterally by Donald Donald Trump, not the first time time that has happened, but it does [00:03:15] does look like it will be signed signed up to by the Ukrainian side [00:03:18] side because people here in this this city, which is currently in [00:03:21] in darkness, having just had another [00:03:22] another air raid alert, know how [00:03:25] how critical their energy infrastructure infrastructure is and how devastating [00:03:28] devastating Russia's attacks on it [00:03:29] it have been. Russia wants the strikes [00:03:33] strikes on its oil refineries to to stop. And the backdrop to this [00:03:36] this is the deal that Donald Trump Trump announced with Vladimir Putin [00:03:39] Putin to allow Russia to export diesel [00:03:42] diesel again, to get that income, income, to actually fulfil those [00:03:45] those orders and supply that fuel fuel Russia needs Ukraine to stop [00:03:48] stop its long range strikes on that that infrastructure. But the big [00:03:52] big question is will this hold? Will Will both sides respect it? Now Donald [00:03:56] Donald Trump announced something something similar about a month ago, [00:03:58] ago, but Russia's attacks on Ukrainian [00:04:00] Ukrainian energy infrastructure continued. [00:04:03] continued. Dan Johnson in Kyiv. There. [00:04:04] There. Katy Balls is the Washington Washington editor and columnist at [00:04:08] at the Times and Sunday Times. She [00:04:10] She gave me her analysis on the US US threatening to block arms for [00:04:14] for Ukraine over attacks on Russian Russian refineries. Well, we know [00:04:18] know that when it comes to the Trump [00:04:21] Trump administration for, you know, know, over a month now, they've been [00:04:24] been trying to get Ukraine to stop [00:04:26] stop when it comes to hitting Russian [00:04:29] Russian oil refineries. And Trump [00:04:32] Trump has had various threats. Also Also previously announced a ceasefire ceasefire that didn't take hold. [00:04:36] hold. And therefore this is an administration administration that's trying to press, [00:04:40] press, you know, different pressure pressure points to get what they [00:04:42] they want. And the FTT, the Financial Financial Times is reporting that [00:04:45] that this you know, this is what what officials, EU officials speaking [00:04:49] speaking to the Ukrainians are telling telling them that the US are doing. [00:04:52] doing. And I think it we don't have have anything yet from the US on [00:04:56] on it, but certainly there is just just a sense that, you know, Trump [00:04:59] Trump has made pretty clear that that he is determined to stop Ukrainians [00:05:02] Ukrainians from hurting Russian infrastructure. infrastructure. And the deal he announced [00:05:06] announced obviously on Friday night, [00:05:07] night, which caused lots of consternation, [00:05:11] consternation, lots of you know, know, opposition quickly emerging emerging to it to say that Russia [00:05:15] Russia was going to be supplying supplying America with a certain certain amount of diesel also is [00:05:18] is tying US interests to Russian Russian infrastructure, making it [00:05:22] it even harder for Ukrainians to [00:05:25] to now strike them. And I think the the announcement that Zelensky wants [00:05:28] wants to go along with this ceasefire ceasefire deal is perhaps a way for [00:05:31] for all sides to walk down. But whether whether it holds is a different matter. [00:05:35] matter. Yes. And what do you think think is the President's motivation [00:05:38] motivation here? Is it simply energy [00:05:40] energy prices in the United States States where you are, or does he [00:05:43] he think this is a way of ending ending the war? I think there's a [00:05:46] a few different things. Certainly Certainly energy prices are becoming becoming a political problem for [00:05:50] for Donald Trump and the Republican Republican Party, and you cannot cannot get away from the fact that [00:05:54] that there are the mid-term elections elections in just a couple of weeks' [00:05:57] weeks' time at the very beginning beginning of November. So when Trump [00:06:00] Trump unveiled his deal with Russia Russia on Friday on his true social [00:06:04] social account, he said, you know, know, the big winner from this is [00:06:06] is Americans and talked about the the American agricultural workers. [00:06:10] workers. And that does come to the the fact that diesel in America last [00:06:13] last month hit its highest ever recorded [00:06:15] recorded price. And voters are linking linking that to the Iran war and [00:06:18] and blaming Donald Trump. So any any tool he can do to either lower [00:06:21] lower the prices ideally, but also also signal to American voters, which [00:06:24] which might be more realistic given given the time frame that he's doing [00:06:27] doing something is something he wants wants to grab. You also add to that, [00:06:31] that, however, the fact that the the Ukrainian war is now being wrapped [00:06:35] wrapped up with the Iranian war. war. Trump obviously did start their [00:06:38] their Iran war. He says Ukraine would [00:06:41] would never start without him, but but they're coming together to create [00:06:44] create something of an energy crisis. crisis. And he also keeps saying [00:06:47] saying he still wants a peace prize, prize, so he's looking for ways to [00:06:49] to end it. It's just that getting getting closer to Russia, I think [00:06:53] think still the jury is out speaking speaking to Europeans and some Republicans Republicans that that is the way [00:06:57] way that this is going to come to to an end in a way the Ukrainians [00:07:00] Ukrainians can get behind. We've We've seen the President take strong [00:07:03] strong positions on Ukraine and then then walk them back. Could all of [00:07:06] of this blow over in a few days? days? In a few weeks? Yeah. I think [00:07:09] think this is the thing that's tricky. tricky. Obviously on Friday you have [00:07:12] have Trump announcing this deal with [00:07:14] with the Russians and you have then [00:07:17] then Trump today announcing a ceasefire ceasefire and then minutes later, [00:07:20] later, Zelensky, the Ukrainian leader, leader, saying, well, you know, well, well, he doesn't know anything about [00:07:24] about it. Now, I think the Ukrainians Ukrainians still feel as though they [00:07:27] they need to have their Americans Americans on side. I think they are [00:07:31] are finding it harder sometimes to to walk that line. You saw Zelensky [00:07:34] Zelensky on Friday criticising Trump Trump for this deal. Trump in turn [00:07:37] turn saying Zelensky needs to go go and he also needs to hold an election [00:07:41] election soon. So I think it's a a very fluid picture for being completely [00:07:44] completely honest and no one can can predict how the next couple of [00:07:46] of days and weeks are going to go. go. Certainly, I think what we can [00:07:50] can say is right now Trump is tying tying American interests closer with [00:07:54] with Russia, closer with Putin, and and that makes things harder for [00:07:58] for the Ukrainians and the European European allies that are trying to [00:08:01] to get Ukraine's voice heard. So So there'll be some relief for those [00:08:04] those a ceasefire. But I think no [00:08:06] no one is holding their breath, particularly particularly on this, because it [00:08:09] it feels as though things are quite [00:08:11] quite hard to predict, quite fragile. fragile. And Trump is leaning more [00:08:15] more towards Russia than he had been [00:08:17] been a few months ago. And that was [00:08:20] was Katy Balls from the Times and and Sunday Times. Well, let's take [00:08:24] take you through how the past few [00:08:25] few days have unfolded. On Friday, Friday, Donald Trump announced a [00:08:29] a deal to import Russian diesel into [00:08:32] into the US.. Ukraine's president president condemned the deal, calling [00:08:35] calling it a gift to Putin. The US [00:08:38] US President hit back saying he thought thought it was time for Ukraine to [00:08:40] to get a new president. President [00:08:43] President Zelensky said Ukraine would would stop striking Russian oil refineries [00:08:47] refineries if Russia stopped striking striking Ukrainian energy infrastructure. [00:08:50] infrastructure. In an interview with with US network ABC, Zelensky then [00:08:54] then said he would organise elections elections in Ukraine if President [00:08:57] President Putin agrees to a 60 day [00:08:59] day ceasefire. The US President posted [00:09:02] posted on Truth Social saying Russia [00:09:04] Russia and Ukraine agreed to an immediate immediate energy ceasefire. President [00:09:07] President Zelensky told US media media it was news to him. Zelensky [00:09:11] Zelensky then posted on X, saying saying he backs a ceasefire but that [00:09:15] that it's important Russia supports [00:09:16] supports it too and that he's awaiting [00:09:19] awaiting details from the US well, [00:09:22] well, let's speak to our correspondent correspondent Nada Tawfik, who's [00:09:25] who's following developments for for us. So, Nedda, just talk us through [00:09:29] through some of the reactions to [00:09:30] to the President's proposals over [00:09:33] over this weekend. Yeah. Well, it's it's been really interesting to see [00:09:37] see that members of President Donald Donald Trump's own Republican Party [00:09:41] Party have expressed reservations, reservations, for example, on the [00:09:44] the earlier announced deal to have [00:09:47] have Russian diesel hit US markets. [00:09:49] markets. While just a few hours ago ago we had a bipartisan group of [00:09:53] of senators saying that that ran ran directly counter to laws that [00:09:57] that were passed to ensure that American [00:10:00] American dollars were not used to to finance Russia's war against Ukraine. [00:10:04] Ukraine. And they have urged President President Trump to reverse course. [00:10:08] course. So while President Trump [00:10:09] Trump is clearly focused on doing [00:10:13] doing everything he can to lower lower fuel prices with the mid-term [00:10:16] mid-term elections coming up in just [00:10:18] just over three weeks, you have Republicans Republicans saying that that really [00:10:21] really can't be done at the expense [00:10:23] expense of Ukraine and the US., Nato [00:10:25] Nato allies. Now, I think there is [00:10:27] is still, like everyone else in Europe Europe and Ukraine among lawmakers [00:10:31] lawmakers here in the US many questions questions about what this energy [00:10:35] energy ceasefire entails, given the the Ukrainian President Zelensky [00:10:38] Zelensky has said it was news to to him and that there's been no comment [00:10:41] comment from Russia. So big question [00:10:43] question marks there. But from those [00:10:46] those who are concerned about having having no kind of daylight between [00:10:49] between the US and its European allies, [00:10:51] allies, there is concern that this [00:10:54] this is taking pressure off of Russia [00:10:57] Russia precisely when Europeans and [00:10:59] and others want that pressure to to be maintained. So I would say [00:11:03] say here in the US., many questions questions for Donald Trump, including [00:11:06] including from his own party. And And how much of this is cutting through [00:11:09] through to voters? What do voters [00:11:12] voters make of the President's proposals? proposals? Is it all about fuel prices [00:11:16] prices coming down, or does some some of the rhetoric cut through [00:11:19] through to them? Well, look, I think [00:11:23] think certainly when you're looking [00:11:25] looking at Donald Trump's core base [00:11:28] base announcement on Truth Social Social declaring success, you know, [00:11:31] know, that will be welcomed by his [00:11:33] his base. But you have to remember [00:11:37] remember that his approval ratings ratings are near historic lows right [00:11:41] right now in this country. The majority [00:11:43] majority of Americans do not think [00:11:45] think that he has handled the economy [00:11:48] economy well and cost of living is [00:11:51] is the dominant issue when it comes comes to the mid-term elections. [00:11:54] elections. Coming up, poll after [00:11:55] after poll has shown that. And so [00:11:58] so these kind of pronouncements of, of, you know, something coming down [00:12:02] down the line isn't really impacting impacting Americans immediately when [00:12:06] when they are facing gas and diesel diesel prices that have more than [00:12:10] than doubled since February, when when President Trump launched his [00:12:13] his war with Iran. And so I think [00:12:16] think Republicans are very aware aware of the difficulty they face [00:12:20] face politically. Everyone pretty pretty much predicting that they [00:12:23] they will lose control of Congress Congress with these upcoming elections. [00:12:26] elections. Neda. Thank you. That's That's our correspondent Nada Tawfik [00:12:29] Tawfik in New York. There now in [00:12:32] in a major escalation in the Middle [00:12:34] Middle East, Yemen's Houthi say they've they've attacked energy facilities [00:12:37] facilities and two airports in Saudi Saudi Arabia. Blasts were heard at [00:12:41] at Dammam airport and at the King [00:12:43] King Khalid airport in Riyadh, where where injuries have been reported. [00:12:47] reported. The attack comes a day day after 13 people were killed and [00:12:50] and hundreds wounded in a strike strike by the Iran-backed group. [00:12:53] group. The deadliest attack on Saudi Saudi soil in more than a decade. [00:12:57] decade. The Houthis have warned airlines airlines and passengers not to use [00:13:01] use airports in Saudi Arabia. A number number of Western diplomatic missions, [00:13:04] missions, including the UK and the the US, have warned their nationals [00:13:07] nationals to stay away from the airport. [00:13:10] airport. Our world news correspondent [00:13:12] correspondent Joe Inwood reports. May I have your attention, [00:13:16] attention, please? This is a. Chaos [00:13:20] Chaos at one of Saudi Arabia's most [00:13:22] most important airports inside the the terminal. The damage is clear. [00:13:26] clear. The result of a missile strike. [00:13:29] strike. More than 300 people injured. [00:13:31] injured. Emergency services are said [00:13:33] said to be overwhelmed tonight. The The Houthis have claimed responsibility [00:13:36] responsibility not just for this this attack but for this one. Last [00:13:40] Last Thursday at the same airport airport as well as one at a state [00:13:44] state run gas plant with the help [00:13:47] help of Almighty God, the armed forces [00:13:49] forces carried out for qualitative qualitative operations over the past [00:13:52] past 24 hours using a number of ballistic [00:13:55] ballistic and winged missiles as as well as drones. The first operation [00:13:58] operation targeted King Khalid Airport Airport in Riyadh. The second operation [00:14:01] operation targeted an Aramco gas [00:14:04] gas plant. The Iran-backed group [00:14:06] group control large parts of Yemen. [00:14:09] Yemen. Saudi Arabia's strategically strategically significant southern southern neighbour for more than [00:14:13] than a decade, the Houthis have been been involved in a brutal civil war [00:14:17] war with the internationally recognised recognised government, which has [00:14:20] has Saudi backing. Now, for the last last couple of years there's been [00:14:22] been an uneasy truce, but that was [00:14:25] was shattered in recent months. The The Houthis made lightning advances [00:14:29] advances down the Red Sea coast last last month, giving them an even greater [00:14:33] greater ability to threaten shipping shipping in the Red Sea. Now Saudi [00:14:36] Saudi Arabia responded with air strikes [00:14:39] strikes and with the government recently recently retook some territory. The [00:14:43] The Houthi response to that could [00:14:44] could be seen at Riyadh airport last [00:14:47] last night from the US President. President. Condemnation of the attack, [00:14:51] attack, but no promise of support. [00:14:53] support. I think it's terrible, terrible. [00:14:55] terrible. With the terrible to find find himself. Well they're able to [00:14:59] to defend look, the Saudis are good [00:15:01] good fighters. But I think the attack attack was a terrible thing. This [00:15:04] This attack was one of the most severe [00:15:06] severe on Saudi soil in over a decade. [00:15:09] decade. Some of those killed are are now being identified. One of [00:15:13] of them, Bethania Awada, was a mother [00:15:15] mother of four from Syria. She was was a victim of a conflict she had [00:15:19] had no part in, but that seems to [00:15:22] to be escalating dangerously. Joe [00:15:24] Joe Inwood, BBC News. This all comes [00:15:27] comes as fighting between the Iran-backed Iran-backed Houthis and the Saudi [00:15:31] Saudi supported government forces forces in Yemen has intensified in [00:15:34] in recent weeks. We can now speak speak to our senior international [00:15:38] international correspondent Orla Orla Guerin, who's in Yemen in the [00:15:41] the city of Aden. Orla, what's the the significance of these attacks [00:15:44] attacks inside Saudi Arabia? Well, [00:15:50] Well, the conflicts here in this [00:15:51] this region, Catherine, are intertwined. intertwined. And one of those conflicts [00:15:55] conflicts is now very much getting getting worse. The strike that was [00:15:58] was carried out by the Houthis on [00:15:59] on the airport in Riyadh, in Saudi Saudi Arabia, was a major strike. [00:16:03] strike. And it not only hit an economically [00:16:07] economically important target but but also a politically sensitive [00:16:10] sensitive target. Now, since that that strike, the Houthis have hit [00:16:13] hit the airport once again and we [00:16:15] we don't yet have any figures for for casualties or fatalities. But [00:16:19] But the Houthis are saying that Saudi [00:16:23] Saudi airports and airspace remain remain a possible target for them [00:16:27] them and that airlines should stay stay away. And they say they should [00:16:30] should heed that warning. Now, Saudi Saudi Arabia has promised a decisive [00:16:34] decisive retaliation. We don't know know what that will be, but certainly [00:16:38] certainly people here in the region [00:16:40] region are bracing for an escalation. escalation. And then we have the [00:16:43] the question of what all of this this means for Donald Trump. There [00:16:46] There is now a dilemma for him, as [00:16:49] as Saudi is a major ally of the United United States. It has been hit very [00:16:52] very hard now by the Houthis. The [00:16:55] The Saudis were already asking him him for more support, and he had [00:16:59] had stopped short of providing direct [00:17:01] direct military aid. He may now feel [00:17:04] feel he has to change his position position on that or risk looking [00:17:07] looking weak, which is something something we know that he hates to [00:17:10] to do. But he also has the US mid-terms mid-terms coming up next week, which [00:17:14] which is something he has to consider. consider. And I think something else [00:17:16] else to think about is who benefits [00:17:20] benefits from this strike. At face [00:17:21] face value, it's good for Iran. Iran's [00:17:24] Iran's regional rivals in Saudi Arabia [00:17:26] Arabia have now taken a very decisive [00:17:28] decisive blow. And also the Americans Americans now have something else [00:17:32] else to worry about. As President President Trump mulls over what to [00:17:35] to do in the war with Iran. So certainly [00:17:38] certainly for now, it seems as if [00:17:40] if this plays to Iran's agenda. And And Orla, what would you say are [00:17:44] are the implications of all of this [00:17:47] this beyond the region? I think there [00:17:52] there are very big implications far [00:17:54] far beyond the Middle East. This This escalating instability is going [00:17:57] going to renew the concerns that [00:18:00] that are already there about the the supply of oil from this region, [00:18:03] region, about oil exports. The Houthis, [00:18:06] Houthis, let's remember, took control [00:18:08] control of the Bab al-Mandab Strait. Strait. Now that is a crucial maritime [00:18:12] maritime artery for oil exports. exports. So that's already a problem. [00:18:16] problem. The Strait of Hormuz oil oil exports there are already disrupted [00:18:19] disrupted because of the war in Iran. Iran. So I think what we will see [00:18:22] see now is even greater concern about [00:18:25] about global oil exports, about supplies [00:18:28] supplies and hence about prices. prices. So I think the impact of [00:18:31] of all of this will be felt economically economically far beyond the region. [00:18:35] region. Orla. Thank you. That's our [00:18:38] our senior international correspondent correspondent Orla Guerin in Aden [00:18:40] Aden in Yemen. There. In India, protesters [00:18:44] protesters have returned to central central Delhi for a second day with [00:18:48] with much of the area barricaded barricaded and officers shops and [00:18:52] and restaurants shut and internet internet services curtailed. The [00:18:55] The Cockroach Janta Party and other other opposition parties are calling [00:18:58] calling for the election commissioner commissioner to be sacked over revisions [00:19:02] revisions to the electoral, an accusation accusation denied by the authorities. [00:19:05] authorities. This comes as the leader [00:19:07] leader of the Cockroach protest movement [00:19:10] movement has been released from detention. [00:19:12] detention. The Cockroach Janta Party Party said its founder, Abhijeet [00:19:15] Abhijeet Dipke, was detained with with other leaders shortly after [00:19:18] after landing in Delhi to lead protests protests seeking electoral reforms [00:19:22] reforms just months before crucial crucial elected state elections. [00:19:25] elections. He began the movement movement in May after India's chief [00:19:29] chief justice likened some jobless [00:19:30] jobless young people to cockroaches. [00:19:35] cockroaches. Hurricane Simon is bearing bearing down on Mexico's Pacific [00:19:38] Pacific coast, bringing torrential [00:19:39] torrential rain and sustained winds [00:19:42] winds of up to 240km an hour. The [00:19:45] The category four storm is expected [00:19:47] expected to make landfall near the the port city of Manzanillo in the [00:19:51] the coming hours. Residents on the [00:19:53] the coast of Colima and Jalisco have [00:19:55] have been warned that eight metre metre waves could bring storm surges [00:19:59] surges and coastal flooding. People People have been boarding up windows [00:20:03] windows and doors ahead of its arrival. [00:20:07] arrival. Pope Leo has announced that that he is to undergo surgery after [00:20:11] after his doctors detected what he [00:20:13] he called a very a very early stage [00:20:16] stage nodule in his lung. Leo, who who is 71 years old, thanked people [00:20:20] people for their prayers. Recovery Recovery from surgery is expected [00:20:23] expected to take around a week, but but let's now speak to our correspondent [00:20:27] correspondent at the Vatican, Sarah Sarah Rainsford Sara. This was a [00:20:30] a shock announcement for many, but but the Vatican, keen to show that [00:20:33] that this is all under control. Yeah, [00:20:38] Yeah, as you say, a real surprise, surprise, of course, for everybody everybody who had gathered here on [00:20:41] on Saint Peter's Square at midday midday today. That's when Catholics [00:20:44] Catholics come here to see the Pope, Pope, to have a blessing by the Pope [00:20:48] Pope from the balcony here. After [00:20:50] After that, though, the Pope then then delivered this announcement, announcement, as you say, a big shock [00:20:54] shock for those who were listening. listening. He said that he had had [00:20:57] had medical checks and that doctors doctors had discovered a nodule on on his lung. Now, he said, as he [00:21:01] he put it, that this had been detected [00:21:03] detected at a very early stage and and was well localised, but that [00:21:07] that doctors had advised him he should should have it removed. So he is is going to have surgery and that [00:21:11] that will take place in the next next few days here in Rome. The Vatican [00:21:15] Vatican is not giving many more details details than that, just saying that [00:21:18] that it will take him about a week week to recover from the surgery [00:21:21] surgery itself. We do know that nodules nodules like this are relatively [00:21:24] relatively common and that usually usually they're not cancerous. But But certainly I think Catholics around [00:21:28] around the world are concerned are are watching this news very closely, [00:21:32] closely, I think in particular, because because this is a relatively young [00:21:34] young Pope. He's in his early 70s. 70s. He goes to the gym, he likes likes playing tennis. He's always [00:21:38] always been thought of as fit and [00:21:40] and as healthy. And this is the first first health scare that he's had [00:21:44] had since he was elected last year. year. One encouraging note, I think, [00:21:48] think, was perhaps his tone as he he made that announcement. He seemed seemed very calm. He even smiled [00:21:52] smiled a couple of times during the the statement. And also he mentioned [00:21:55] mentioned today a trip that's coming coming up in November to Peru, the the place where he was a missionary [00:21:59] missionary for many years and a bishop. bishop. He has talked about that [00:22:02] that with the suggestion that that that trip should still go ahead in [00:22:06] in November. So perhaps encouraging encouraging news for Catholics even [00:22:08] even as they absorb this. Pretty Pretty surprising and for some shocking [00:22:11] shocking news. Sarah, thank you. [00:22:14] you. That's our correspondent Sarah [00:22:16] Sarah Rainsford at the Vatican Reform [00:22:18] Reform UK say that if they're elected elected at the next election, they'll [00:22:22] they'll close down the UK's asylum asylum system for five years. All [00:22:25] All new applications for refugee [00:22:28] refugee status would be declined declined and the estimated 90,000 [00:22:31] 90,000 people currently waiting in [00:22:33] in the asylum system would be deported. [00:22:35] deported. Well, with me is our political political correspondent, Joe Pike. [00:22:38] Pike. Joe, what more can you tell tell us about reforms plans? Well, [00:22:41] Well, Catherine, the background of of this is if you are a refugee and [00:22:44] and you want to stay in the UK because because it's not safe to return to [00:22:47] to your country, you claim asylum asylum reform are basically saying [00:22:50] saying they will close the whole whole asylum system from the next [00:22:54] next election if they win it for for the whole parliamentary term. [00:22:56] term. So about five years and legal [00:22:59] legal refugee routes and resettlement resettlement schemes will also end. [00:23:02] end. Of course, the scale of the the proposed deportations they're [00:23:05] they're talking about here is pretty pretty striking. 90,000 people currently [00:23:09] currently in the asylum system will will be deported. In addition to [00:23:13] to the hundreds of thousands of people people the parties already claim [00:23:16] claim that they will deport if they they get into power because those [00:23:20] those people are in the country illegally. illegally. Where will those people [00:23:23] people go? Well, the party argue argue to their home countries and [00:23:26] and because that's been historically historically difficult for the UK UK government, they will put pressure [00:23:30] pressure on those countries to take take their citizens by threatening threatening them with visa bans, [00:23:34] bans, but also threatening them with with tariffs. It's unclear whether [00:23:37] whether that will work. Other people, [00:23:39] people, the party say, will go to to third countries if either it's [00:23:43] it's not clear where they're from from or if their home country is is safe. But certainly there's been [00:23:47] been quite a lot of political reaction reaction to this today. Talk us through [00:23:49] through some of the reaction that's that's come in on this story. Well [00:23:53] Well from a conservatives a party party on the right of British politics, [00:23:56] politics, a bit like Reform UK. They They say that a lot of these policies [00:24:00] policies have actually been copied copied from them. Labour who are [00:24:03] are currently in government, and and Andy Burnham's party, have taken [00:24:06] taken a different approach. They've They've said this is a clear sign [00:24:09] sign of desperation and weakness. weakness. Nigel Farage, the leader leader of Reform UK, they argue, [00:24:13] argue, is running away from basic basic decency by entirely abandoning [00:24:16] abandoning those escaping war and and persecution. They say the vast [00:24:19] vast majority of British people reject reject this policy as an assault [00:24:23] assault on our common values. The The important context here, of course, course, Catherine, is that this party [00:24:27] party Reform UK on the right of British British politics, have had a difficult [00:24:29] difficult few months. A lot of questions [00:24:32] questions about their finances, donations donations swirling. This does seem [00:24:35] seem to be an attempt to try and and reset things with a bold new [00:24:38] new policy. Yes, of course it is is a bold policy, but critics will [00:24:41] will question whether it's actually actually practical. Jo thank you. [00:24:44] you. That's our political correspondent, [00:24:46] correspondent, Joe Pike. There. Poland's [00:24:51] Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk Tusk says a man accused of plotting [00:24:55] plotting an assassination attack attack against him and his Defence [00:24:59] Defence Minister has been detained. detained. The country's Interior Interior Ministry reported earlier [00:25:03] earlier that police had received received credible information about [00:25:07] about possible attacks against the [00:25:09] the to police. Polish security agencies agencies convened a special meeting [00:25:13] meeting on Sunday after receiving receiving information about the planned [00:25:17] planned attacks, with a spokesman spokesman saying officials were treating [00:25:19] treating the threat as deadly serious. serious. Tusk thanked the police [00:25:23] police for swift and decisive action [00:25:25] action in arresting the suspect. [00:25:29] suspect. Now eight orangutans rescued rescued from the wildfires that recently [00:25:32] recently swept through parts of Borneo Borneo have been released into a [00:25:36] a protected forest. The orangutans orangutans three mother and baby [00:25:39] baby pairs and two male teenagers [00:25:42] teenagers were saved from various [00:25:44] various locations in West Kalimantan Kalimantan on the Indonesian part [00:25:47] part of the island. Their new home [00:25:49] home is the Batu Nyambu Forest Reserve, [00:25:53] Reserve, chosen by conservationists conservationists because of the availability [00:25:55] availability of food and water sources [00:25:58] sources as well as its connectivity [00:25:59] connectivity to other forests. You're You're watching BBC News. Stay with [00:26:03] with us. We'll be back in just a [00:27:36] will emerge low 40s and Celsius in in Kuwait. [00:29:55] online at bbc.com/business to get get the latest news wherever you [00:29:57] you are. Business on BBC News. Make [00:30:00] Make the connection. MUSIC [00:30:09] MUSIC [00:30:18] These are the latest headlines [00:30:20] from BBC News. President Zelensky [00:30:23] Zelensky welcomes Donald Trump's Trump's unexpected announcement of [00:30:26] of an energy ceasefire, but says says Russia is continuing to attack [00:30:29] attack Ukrainian power plants. Another [00:30:32] Another strike hits Riyadh's international [00:30:34] international airport in Saudi Arabia, Arabia, hours after Yemen's Houthis [00:30:38] Houthis warned airlines to avoid avoid the country's airspace. 13 [00:30:41] 13 people were killed and hundreds hundreds wounded in another Houthi [00:30:45] Houthi attack on Saturday, Reform [00:30:47] Reform UK has pledged to close down down the asylum system for five years [00:30:51] years if it wins the next election. election. Labour has accused reform [00:30:55] reform of running away from basic [00:30:58] basic decency, an investigation is is under way into the fatal mauling [00:31:01] mauling of a man at a wildlife park [00:31:03] park in the north of England. And [00:31:06] And victory for Manchester City, City, who beat Liverpool 3-0. Despite [00:31:09] Despite the boos from home supporters supporters at Anfield in their first [00:31:13] first match since being found guilty [00:31:15] guilty of breaching financial rules. [00:31:28] rules. Let's have more on that last [00:31:30] last headline. Manchester City have have won their first match since [00:31:33] since being found guilty of all charges charges related to breaches of the [00:31:37] the financial rules governing the the game. The team were met by boos [00:31:41] boos in Liverpool this afternoon. afternoon. Take a listen to this [00:31:44] this crowd reaction from Sky sports [00:31:47] sports match coverage. Of all the [00:31:50] the games, of all the venues. But [00:31:59] But it was city who took the victory, [00:32:02] victory, securing a 3-0 win at Anfield. Anfield. The club maintained they [00:32:06] they haven't broken any rules and [00:32:07] and have appealed against the verdict. verdict. Security was stepped up [00:32:11] up around the stadium ahead of the the arrival of the City team bus, [00:32:15] bus, which was also greeted by boos [00:32:17] boos and chants. We heard from some some Liverpool fans ahead of the [00:32:21] the game. The atmosphere is going [00:32:25] going to be volatile. I think it's it's always a special game. Not as [00:32:28] as big as Man United and Everton, Everton, but I think it's still up [00:32:31] up there with a with the best. I I think because they're dominating [00:32:34] dominating for a lot of years. I I think once they get the perch back [00:32:37] back from the year before. So I think think it is more more difficult because [00:32:41] because of what's going on at City. [00:32:43] City. It's isn't it? It's more. Yeah, [00:32:45] Yeah, I think so. And it's kind of [00:32:48] of also the whole saga really I'm [00:32:50] I'm losing my passion for the game, game, to be honest. Just feels like [00:32:54] like it's no longer for supporters, supporters, no longer for fans. It's [00:32:58] It's all about the money nowadays. nowadays. Money, money. How many [00:33:02] many teams have been relegated or or lost Champions League spots, Europe [00:33:05] Europe spots. I mean I'm a Liverpool Liverpool supporter. I don't want [00:33:09] want tainted titles. I just like [00:33:12] like some justice. Our sports editor, [00:33:15] editor, Dan Roan sent this update update after the final whistle and [00:33:18] and says the whole Premier League League has been left waiting to see [00:33:21] see what happens next. After another [00:33:23] another Manchester City win. Now Now city have won convincingly here [00:33:27] here today. I think that is the result result that many fans, not just Liverpool Liverpool fans but supporters of [00:33:30] of other clubs would have feared feared because it does mean that that their perfect start to the season [00:33:34] season continues that six wins out out of six. There are three points [00:33:38] points clear at the top of the table, [00:33:40] table, nine points ahead of Liverpool. [00:33:43] Liverpool. But how much does it actually actually mean that? That is a hard [00:33:46] hard question to answer. If city city go on and win or even just if [00:33:49] if they're in the title race, how how much pride can they take? How [00:33:52] How much excitement can it spark spark when you know, when everybody [00:33:56] everybody knows that there is a very very real prospect that they could [00:33:59] could be handed a huge points deduction deduction that would condemn them [00:34:01] them to relegation or even expulsion expulsion from the league? And until [00:34:05] until we know what that punishment punishment is and until we know the the outcome of any appeal, we know [00:34:09] know that city have appealed, but but we don't know how long that will [00:34:11] will take or whether indeed they'll they'll then go beyond football jurisdiction [00:34:15] jurisdiction and take it to the courts. [00:34:18] courts. Then this sense of limbo limbo will hang over this campaign. [00:34:22] campaign. And what many will fear [00:34:23] fear is future seasons. If it's not [00:34:27] not concluded before the start of [00:34:28] of next season. Dan Roan reporting [00:34:31] reporting there. Meanwhile, Prime Prime Minister Andy Burnham says [00:34:35] says he will publish all the details details of his past dealings with [00:34:38] with Manchester City after he was was criticised for his response to [00:34:42] to the clubs guilty verdict when [00:34:44] when they were found to have breached breached Premier League financial [00:34:46] financial rules. The Prime Minister Minister said he would be concerned [00:34:49] concerned if the team were sold. sold. Mr Burnham's previous role [00:34:52] role as mayor of Greater Manchester [00:34:54] Manchester has led to questions about about his relationship with City's [00:34:58] City's Abu Dhabi ownership. At least [00:35:02] least 139 people have been killed, [00:35:05] killed, including 15 children, after after a boat sank off the shores [00:35:08] shores of Djibouti. That's according [00:35:10] according to the International Organisation Organisation for migration. Survivors [00:35:13] Survivors said the vessel, which which was carrying around 350 people [00:35:17] people from Djibouti to Yemen, capsized [00:35:19] capsized north of the town of Obock Obock overnight on October the 8th. [00:35:23] 8th. 82 people all Ethiopian nationals, [00:35:27] nationals, were rescued. It's among among the deadliest shipwrecks recorded [00:35:29] recorded on a route used by migrants migrants from the Horn of Africa [00:35:32] Africa trying to reach the Gulf states. [00:35:36] states. Alexandre Coissac is the the International organisation for [00:35:40] for Migration's chief of mission mission in Djibouti. He's visited [00:35:42] visited the shoreline where the shipwreck shipwreck took place and has been [00:35:46] been telling me more about it. I [00:35:49] I arrived one day after and I saw saw I mean, it's very tragic. It's [00:35:53] It's very difficult to describe. describe. Sorry, but many, many, [00:35:56] many, many dead bodies that were were on the scene that have been [00:35:59] been pushed on the sea. The day just [00:36:02] just before the army, which was the the first to intervene together with [00:36:05] with the local authorities, had already [00:36:08] already buried 67 bodies, but more [00:36:10] more were being pushed by the sea. sea. So I saw devastation. That's [00:36:14] That's what I've seen. Yes. And what [00:36:16] what have survivors had to say? We've [00:36:20] We've met some survivors actually. actually. As we were going there [00:36:22] there with the car somebody was in [00:36:25] in the desert, got lost and run towards towards US, very frankly. I mean, [00:36:29] mean, the one I met could hardly hardly speak. He had been lost in [00:36:33] in the desert for one and a half half when we met him. We brought [00:36:37] brought him to our centre. We are [00:36:38] are providing support to another [00:36:41] another 8081 of them altogether. altogether. It's 82 people that we [00:36:45] we are currently helping in a migrant migrant response centre that we have [00:36:48] have in Obock. There are whole instead [00:36:50] instead of shock it's very difficult [00:36:53] difficult for them to, to express express what happened and what we [00:36:56] we are trying to do for them is to to provide food, water, shelter. [00:37:00] shelter. I mean human contact. And [00:37:02] And we have our health doctors and and psychologists who are also working [00:37:06] working with them. Why is this route [00:37:08] route so deadly? Boats crossing from [00:37:11] from Djibouti to Yemen. I mean, the the dangers are nearly everywhere. [00:37:14] everywhere. I mean, first crossing crossing Djibouti is not easy because [00:37:18] because it's a very desert country. country. There is a lack of I mean, [00:37:22] mean, it's very hot weather, extremely [00:37:25] extremely hot weather, difficulty difficulty to access water. So just [00:37:28] just the journey in Djibouti can can be deadly, especially during [00:37:31] during the hot month. And then you you have the crossing the Strait [00:37:35] Strait of Bab al-Mandab Strait. It's It's not very large on the map. Anything [00:37:39] Anything can happen in the sea in [00:37:41] in this specific event. What was [00:37:45] was deadly is the fact that the boat [00:37:47] boat was a small boat and 305 people [00:37:50] people boarded the boat. It was impossible impossible for the boat to just leave. [00:37:54] leave. That's why actually it sunk sunk very close to the shore. We [00:37:57] We can we could see the boat right right there. We could nearly touch [00:38:00] touch it. It was so close to the the shore. It didn't get very far. [00:38:03] far. As we've been hearing in the [00:38:05] the news, the situation is also dangerous dangerous in Yemen itself. There's [00:38:09] There's a civil war there. There's There's a humanitarian crisis. Why [00:38:12] Why do people continue to travel [00:38:15] travel into Yemen? It's a very good [00:38:18] good question. It's there is this [00:38:21] this seems so determined to live [00:38:24] live with your dream to finally reach [00:38:26] reach the Gulf countries, Saudi Arabia Arabia being one of them. The idea [00:38:30] idea that they can get a better life [00:38:32] life over there, they can get jobs, [00:38:35] jobs, economic opportunities. So [00:38:37] So when we talk to some of the migrants migrants before they cross the sea, [00:38:41] sea, some of them have no idea what's what's happening in Yemen. So we [00:38:44] we are trying to talk to them and [00:38:46] and explain them. I mean, the what's [00:38:48] what's currently going on in Yemen Yemen with all the internal displacement [00:38:52] displacement that the country is [00:38:53] is also suffering inside. Some are [00:38:56] are aware of it and others have just [00:38:58] just never heard about it. Actually, [00:39:01] Actually, to one thing that's so so striking, some of the migrants, [00:39:04] migrants, when they arrive in Djibouti Djibouti do not know that there is [00:39:08] is a sea strait that needs to be [00:39:10] be crossed in order for them to continue [00:39:13] continue towards Yemen and the Gulf [00:39:15] Gulf countries. What are authorities authorities there in Djibouti in [00:39:19] in the region doing to make sure [00:39:21] sure tragedies like this do not happen? [00:39:24] happen? It's they have the Coast Coast Guard that are always patrolling, [00:39:28] patrolling, but it can't be everywhere. everywhere. Fortunately, you can't can't be there all the time. So I [00:39:31] I know they are always on the sea [00:39:33] sea in order to, to be able to provide [00:39:35] provide rescue. I mean, first what what they are doing is always to [00:39:39] to respond when there is such tragedy. tragedy. Unfortunately this time [00:39:42] time because it happened at night. night. We were not they were not [00:39:45] not able to respond immediately, immediately, but they were there [00:39:48] there very shortly after, unfortunately unfortunately too late. And they [00:39:51] they immediately provided support support to the survivors and they [00:39:54] they ensured that the one that survived survived could get proper care. And [00:39:58] And there are so much work to do [00:40:00] do as well in order to bury all the [00:40:03] the bodies. So it reply it implied [00:40:06] implied involvements of different different actors from the local authorities, [00:40:10] authorities, from the Navy, Army Army and also from the local authority. [00:40:13] authority. The prefecture. Visitors [00:40:16] Visitors to a wildlife park in South South Yorkshire in northern England [00:40:19] England have been describing their their shock and distress after a [00:40:22] a man was killed when he entered entered the tiger enclosure yesterday. [00:40:26] yesterday. Yunus Mulla reports. A [00:40:31] A Siberian tiger filmed, relaxed relaxed and in the sunshine just [00:40:34] just minutes before a man entered entered this enclosure at the Yorkshire [00:40:37] Yorkshire Wildlife Park and was attacked. attacked. The entire incident at [00:40:41] at the land of Tiger Section was was witnessed by Ella Ford. She was [00:40:44] was on a raised walkway with her [00:40:46] her boyfriend. She climbed up and and some woman was there talking [00:40:50] talking to him and he climbed up up onto the barriers onto like a [00:40:53] a metal bar. And then next thing thing you know, he just jumped in [00:40:57] in and then he like crawled towards [00:41:00] towards in front of the tiger where where the tiger was perched and just [00:41:03] just lay there. We've seen the tiger tiger get down and come over to him [00:41:07] him and obviously grab on to him. him. And then he was shouting for [00:41:10] for help. And then people around around us was obviously trying to [00:41:13] to get the kids away and we'd gone [00:41:15] gone to try and find help. Staff [00:41:19] Staff evacuated around 15 to 20 people people from the enclosures raised [00:41:22] raised platform and emergency services services were called, but the man [00:41:25] man died at the scene. When the Tiger Tiger walkway my family said, oh, [00:41:29] oh, that's it there, look. And there there were a load of police loads [00:41:32] loads of rangers and this black tarpaulin tarpaulin thing up to cover people [00:41:36] people from seeing in. The two acre [00:41:39] acre reserve is home to Amur Tigers, [00:41:41] Tigers, an endangered subspecies subspecies with around 500 left in [00:41:44] in the wild. The high fenced walkway [00:41:47] walkway allows visitors to see the the animals roaming below the park, [00:41:51] park, said today its thoughts and and sympathies remain with the family [00:41:54] family of the man who has died. Staff [00:41:56] Staff here will also be given specialist [00:41:59] specialist support and the tiger, tiger, it said, is safe and will [00:42:02] will not be euthanized as a result result of the attack. The park remains [00:42:06] remains closed. Yunus Mulla BBC News [00:42:10] News Doncaster. Kenya has not recorded [00:42:13] recorded any new cases of Ebola after [00:42:16] after conducting hundreds of tests. tests. The country confirmed its [00:42:19] its first imported case on October October the 6th after citizen who [00:42:23] who travelled from the Democratic Democratic Republic of Congo died [00:42:26] died in Nairobi. For more on how how Kenya has been managing the Ebola [00:42:29] Ebola outbreak, I spoke to Dr Jean [00:42:31] Jean Kaseya director-general of the [00:42:35] the Africa Centers for Disease Control Control and Prevention. Now that [00:42:37] that we started the process in Kenya, [00:42:40] Kenya, we are at the protocol. We We have all people in the contact [00:42:43] contact list. It will take at least [00:42:48] least 21 days without any new case. [00:42:52] case. That will be locally transmitted. [00:42:54] transmitted. If we have no new case [00:42:57] case after 21 days, all of these these people in the contact will [00:42:59] will be out. Then we can say you [00:43:01] you are. Kenya is out of the outbreak. [00:43:06] outbreak. Part of the challenge here here is that the patient travelled [00:43:09] travelled through several provinces provinces within the Democratic Republic [00:43:13] Republic of Congo, crossed by road road into Uganda, then flew into [00:43:17] into Kenya. Just highlighting the the risk that transmission could [00:43:20] could spread from the DRC to the [00:43:22] the rest of the region. You know, [00:43:25] know, just for you to have an idea, [00:43:28] idea, the distance that this person [00:43:32] person made from butter to Kenya [00:43:36] Kenya is like a cost. 11 European [00:43:39] European countries. You can imagine [00:43:42] imagine number of contacts from where where himself he got it because he [00:43:46] he was sick for more than one month [00:43:50] month to are all of these places. [00:43:54] places. Now what is the risk? The The risk is still there. And this [00:43:57] this is what I was saying from the [00:43:59] the very first day. This is a regional. [00:44:03] regional. This is a regional outbreak [00:44:05] outbreak and we need to treat it [00:44:07] it like that. If today we don't control [00:44:11] control that in DRC, yes, other countries [00:44:14] countries can be affected. Other [00:44:16] Other countries can get the virus. virus. But give us a sense of what's [00:44:20] what's being done to stop this, this this spread of the virus because [00:44:24] because you say you've been warning warning about this since day one, [00:44:26] one, but it seems to still be happening. [00:44:31] happening. You know what is making [00:44:33] making me a little bit comfortable [00:44:36] comfortable is I can see the political [00:44:40] political commitment from president [00:44:41] president to stop that. Now, how [00:44:44] how can we translate this political [00:44:46] political commitment? It this is [00:44:49] is the what we are working on. And And I'm meeting President Tshisekedi [00:44:53] Tshisekedi on Tuesday. It means in, [00:44:55] in, in two days and to discuss how [00:44:57] how we can strengthen the response. [00:45:00] response. Yes, there are still some some factors like insecurity, humanitarian [00:45:04] humanitarian issue. But we also need need to see what we are not doing [00:45:07] doing well so far and what we can can strengthen. And he really knows [00:45:11] knows that. And this is so supportive. [00:45:15] supportive. Two new films premiered premiered at the London Film Festival [00:45:19] Festival this evening, Prime Time, Time, starring Robert Pattinson, [00:45:22] Pattinson, is a psychological thriller thriller following the rise of US [00:45:25] US TV phenomenon To Catch a Predator [00:45:28] Predator and Animal sees actor Ashley Ashley Walters making his directorial [00:45:32] directorial debut focusing on life [00:45:34] life inside a young offenders institution. [00:45:37] institution. Noor Nanji reports. reports. Well, I'm here at London London Film Festival where there [00:45:41] there are a whole host of films generating generating a real buzz around them. [00:45:44] them. One of them is animal, a new new drama by Ashley Walters. Now [00:45:47] Now you probably know Ashley Walters Walters as usually being in front [00:45:50] front of the camera, but he is now now directing this film. It is the [00:45:53] the first feature film that he has has directed. Now the film itself [00:45:56] itself is set in a youth detention detention centre, and it follows [00:45:59] follows the young inmates as they they navigate friendship and identity, [00:46:03] identity, all against the backdrop backdrop of something which is quite [00:46:05] quite violent and often quite stressful. stressful. It has a whole number [00:46:09] number of rising stars who are in [00:46:11] in this film, but also Stephen Graham, [00:46:13] Graham, who stars as a welfare officer [00:46:15] officer in the prison and of course, course, Stephen Graham and Ashley [00:46:19] Ashley Walters were recently together together in the TV series. The hit [00:46:23] hit TV series Netflix drama adolescence [00:46:26] adolescence last year. And I started started by asking Ashley Walters [00:46:29] Walters whether he felt any pressure [00:46:31] pressure living up to that. Of course course there's pressure. You know [00:46:35] know you want to you want to win. win. You want to make a good movie [00:46:38] movie or whatever. But I realised realised the good movie is subjective, [00:46:41] subjective, right? It's like, you you know, as long as I push my vision [00:46:45] vision and the idea that I had for for this film and I came out with [00:46:48] with that or somewhat, you know, know, similar to what I'd envisaged, [00:46:52] envisaged, then I'd be happy, I'd I'd be proud of myself. And however however anyone else took it, it's [00:46:56] it's up to them. But to be here amongst amongst all these great people at [00:46:59] at this festival is like amazing. amazing. It's overwhelming. And Stephen [00:47:02] Stephen Graham and you are friends. friends. You are brilliant together together in adolescence. Now you're [00:47:06] you're directing him. Was it strange strange to make that transition? transition? Oh, not at all. I'd already [00:47:10] already directed him. I had a taster taster because I had him in a thousand [00:47:14] thousand blows that I did for Disney Disney that I directed before. So [00:47:16] So it was kind of we had a we already already had a rapport. I already [00:47:19] already knew how he was working. working. I think in a thousand blows [00:47:22] blows it was scarier than animal animal because I'd already done it. [00:47:25] it. How did you draw on your own own experiences in a young offenders [00:47:29] offenders institution for this film? film? Most of what you see in the [00:47:32] the film is how I saw my Young Offenders Offenders Institute. I mean, we spent [00:47:36] spent months and months and months months kind of going back and forth [00:47:39] forth about prisons that we would would shoot in because I needed it [00:47:43] it to look it feel like the same same prison that I was in. So we [00:47:46] we found a prison that was that close, close, but down to the clothes, the [00:47:50] the colours, you know, the sounds, sounds, everything comes from my [00:47:52] my memory of being in a YOY when when I was. And this film will make [00:47:56] make you smile. It'll make you cry. cry. What message do you want people [00:47:59] people to take away from it? Hope [00:48:03] Hope you know, pushing people to [00:48:05] to be their authentic selves. And [00:48:08] And shame. Sometimes a lot of the [00:48:09] the time is like a construct, you [00:48:13] you know, a lot of people do things things behind closed doors that they [00:48:15] they don't want to talk about because because of how they think other people [00:48:19] people will feel about them. And And I would say 95% of those things [00:48:23] things you could probably tell someone someone and find support. A lot of [00:48:26] of problems happen when we feel we're we're the only ones going through through something. And this film [00:48:30] film is about, you know, saying first first of all, that you're not the [00:48:33] the only person. And second, don't don't be ashamed of who ashamed of [00:48:36] of who you are. You know. Well, another [00:48:39] another film that has lots of people people talking over here is called [00:48:42] called Prime Time and is the new new A24 crime thriller starring Robert [00:48:46] Robert Pattinson. It is based on on the TV show called To Catch a [00:48:49] a Predator, which ran from 2004 to [00:48:53] to 2007, and it was based around around the concept of essentially [00:48:57] essentially conducting these stings stings on alleged offenders and child [00:49:00] child abusers. And as I say, it stars stars Robert Pattinson. He's playing [00:49:02] playing the role of the American American TV journalist Chris Hansen, [00:49:06] Hansen, who hosted To Catch a Predator. Predator. And I asked him why shows [00:49:10] shows like that have such a draw [00:49:13] draw on us. It's both the most terrifying terrifying thing that can. Happen [00:49:17] Happen to you, whether you're if if you're a parent. Or even if you're [00:49:19] you're not. It's like the it's like [00:49:23] like the most unimaginable sin possible. [00:49:26] possible. And it's a kind of. It's [00:49:28] It's like an unknown entity, which which is kind of it's been going [00:49:32] going on since mediaeval times thinking [00:49:33] thinking that there's a kind of almost. [00:49:36] almost. It can come in this case case through the internet and attack [00:49:40] attack vulnerable children. And the [00:49:43] the show was a kind of a microcosm microcosm of saying like, oh, we [00:49:46] we can do something about it and and we can do something about it [00:49:49] it really, really, really quickly. quickly. And in some ways that's [00:49:52] that's correct. But it also makes makes for incredibly powerful TV. [00:49:56] TV. And that's when it kind of gets gets into slightly dicey territory. territory. Do you think attitudes [00:50:00] attitudes towards entertainment have [00:50:02] have changed now? I think on mainstream [00:50:06] mainstream TV, but then it's just just been replaced. I mean, that's that's kind of why I was interested [00:50:10] interested in this show because I I could see the beginning of a new new wave of predator catching in [00:50:13] in pretty much the same format that that it was in the early 2000, and [00:50:17] and it was really taking off on TikTok. TikTok. And I was just interested [00:50:20] interested as to why that was happening [00:50:24] happening and whether it was a algorithmically [00:50:27] algorithmically based interest or [00:50:29] or what I mean, what was causing causing it. And it got bigger and [00:50:32] and bigger and bigger and now it's it's one of the most it's a massive massive thing on social media. So [00:50:36] So it's just very interesting to to me. Filming on the new Batman Batman has reportedly paused. Can [00:50:40] Can you give us any indication of of when you'll be back to work? We [00:50:43] We don't know yet, but yeah, kind kind of working on it. And you've [00:50:47] you've had an exceptional year. Is Is this going to be the film that that gets you your first Oscar nomination? [00:50:51] nomination? I don't know, I'm just just I am eternally grateful that [00:50:55] that A I've got these jobs, but then then been able to even do them. I'm [00:50:58] I'm like, this is one of the best [00:50:59] best years of my life. Now. Recently [00:51:03] Recently banished celebrity Triator Triator Richard E Grant and Christine [00:51:06] Christine Baranski, famed for her her roles in The Good Wife and The [00:51:09] The Gilded Age, are uniting on stage [00:51:11] stage for a revival of the Noel Coward Coward classic Hay Fever. Victoria [00:51:15] Victoria Derbyshire met them on Thursday Thursday ahead of the latest traitors [00:51:19] traitors eliminations. They started started by talking about how Coward's [00:51:22] Coward's century old comedy has relevance [00:51:24] relevance today. He wrote it as a [00:51:28] a comment on the age in which he [00:51:30] he lived the 20s. He said it's a [00:51:33] a very performative age, people terribly [00:51:35] terribly concerned about their image [00:51:38] image and you know how they present present themselves to society. And [00:51:42] And so he's rather spoofing the age [00:51:43] age in which he lives. And in particular, [00:51:46] particular, this vain actress who [00:51:49] who thought she could retire. But [00:51:52] But clearly needs to have the adoration [00:51:55] adoration and all of the things that [00:51:57] that come with her fame. So it's [00:51:59] it's an age obsessed with image. image. And I think we are very much [00:52:03] much living in that kind of age. [00:52:05] age. Witness the endless selfies [00:52:07] selfies and pictures and people obsessing [00:52:10] obsessing about fashion and cosmetic cosmetic surgery and everything. [00:52:13] everything. We're quite obsessed obsessed with our identities. Do [00:52:16] Do you agree with that, Richard? Richard? Completely. And they're [00:52:19] they're all very self-involved and and self-obsessed in the way that, [00:52:22] that, you know, there is the bubble bubble in which somebody lives and [00:52:25] and they film every meal that they've they've eaten or every, you know, know, bark they've their dog makes [00:52:29] makes and then put it out on social social media. Yes. Well, you're on [00:52:32] on social media as well. I am indeed indeed guilty as charged. Right. [00:52:35] Right. OK. Fair enough. The Radio [00:52:37] Radio Times says that you bring chaos [00:52:39] chaos to this role. I think that's that's a compliment. So I'm is that [00:52:43] that deliberate? Yes. Because he's [00:52:45] he's a he is a chaotic character [00:52:48] character and the whole household household seems to thrive on bouncing [00:52:53] bouncing off each other of what people people bring in from the outside. [00:52:56] outside. If they're drama addicts. addicts. Yeah. If it's not dramatic, [00:52:58] dramatic, they'll create the drama. drama. And so these houseguests, houseguests, these poor houseguests [00:53:02] houseguests are used as supporting [00:53:04] supporting supporting actors in their [00:53:07] their drama. What are you Triator? [00:53:18] Triator? You what Triator is a Triator? [00:53:19] Triator? Are you. Yeah. Right. Richard. [00:53:23] Richard. Can I ask you about Celebrity Celebrity Traitors? No, because I [00:53:26] I have no answers. No no no. There There is stuff that's in the public [00:53:29] public domain because we've all been been watching it. Have you actually actually watched it? And obviously [00:53:33] obviously you're on stage each night, night, but have you watched it back back on iPlayer yet? No, really? [00:53:37] really? No really not. Oh, my [00:53:40] goodness. It's an interesting angle. angle. Yeah. You need to be very [00:53:43] very clear that you're not. I'm gonna [00:53:47] gonna pretend that I didn't hear [00:53:48] hear that. And what are you what [00:53:51] what are you Richard Faithful? Faithful. [00:53:54] Faithful. Faithful. Yeah. I'm Faithful. [00:53:57] Faithful. Yeah. Faithful. It's a [00:54:02] a weird thing because as an actor actor and I don't know. Whether Christine, [00:54:05] Christine, you have this. It's very very uncomfortable to watch yourself [00:54:09] yourself very. And if you watch yourself yourself unscripted, which traitors [00:54:13] traitors is completely unscripted, unscripted, then there's no place [00:54:15] place to hide. You can't say, well, well, these are Noel Coward's words [00:54:18] words and this is somebody else's else's costume that is unequivocally [00:54:21] unequivocally you say, well, let let me ask you if I may. Then why [00:54:24] why did you blurt out that you were were a Triator? Because I asked you. [00:54:27] you. I never thought that that they they would take me seriously when [00:54:30] when he said, are you a Triator? Triator? And we just come out of of the round table thing being nominated [00:54:34] nominated or not? I thought, well, well, yeah, isn't everybody going [00:54:38] going to say that? And of course course they didn't. So I paid the [00:54:41] the price. Let's bring you some updates updates on one of our top stories, [00:54:45] stories, which is the security situation [00:54:47] situation in Saudi Arabia. The UK [00:54:50] UK embassy in the country advises advises British citizens against [00:54:54] against all essential travel to Saudi [00:54:56] Saudi Arabia's Jeddah, Dammam and [00:54:59] and to all Saudi airports except [00:55:01] except the airport in Medina. This [00:55:03] This is a post on the on X social [00:55:05] social media. The UK Embassy in Saudi [00:55:08] Saudi Arabia advises British citizens citizens against all but essential [00:55:11] essential travel to Saudi Arabia's Arabia's Jeddah, Dammam and Saudi [00:55:15] Saudi airports except the airport [00:55:17] airport in Medina and the Federal [00:55:20] Federal Aviation Administration in [00:55:22] in the US urges US airlines to exercise [00:55:25] exercise caution when flying to or or above Saudi Arabia. And this, [00:55:29] this, of course, comes after those [00:55:33] those attacks by Yemen's Houthi militant [00:55:36] militant group on airports in Saudi Saudi Arabia. There were some big [00:55:40] big strikes on the main international international airport in Riyadh. [00:55:43] Riyadh. The Houthis have warned airlines [00:55:47] airlines against travelling to Saudi [00:55:50] Saudi airports, and those warnings warnings that caution coming in from [00:55:54] from the US and the UK authorities [00:55:57] authorities as well. You're watching [00:55:59] watching BBC News with me Catherine [00:56:01] Catherine Byaruhanga stay with us. [00:59:44] MUSIC [01:00:13] Live from Washington. This is [01:00:16] BBC News. The bloodshed in Ukraine [01:00:18] Ukraine continues. Three dead in [01:00:21] in this Russian strike, while President [01:00:23] President Zelensky says Russia struck struck energy facilities after President [01:00:26] President Trump's announcement of of an energy ceasefire. President [01:00:30] President Zelensky welcomes Donald Donald Trump's announcement, but [01:00:33] but Moscow has yet to comment. 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