BBCNEWS — BBC News 20261012 100000 UTC 515 transcript segments Original Broadcaster Captioning (Enhanced) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:09] Hello, live from London. This [00:00:12] is BBC News. President Zelensky says says Washington has to make Russia [00:00:15] Russia respect. An energy ceasefire ceasefire announced by Donald Trump [00:00:19] Trump after Russian strikes hit Ukrainian [00:00:21] Ukrainian infrastructure overnight. [00:00:23] overnight. It was clear that Putin [00:00:27] Putin does not read through social [00:00:31] social and his cheeky drones follow [00:00:32] follow a different set of instructions. [00:00:36] instructions. Saudi officials say say one person has been killed and [00:00:38] and nearly a dozen others injured injured in the latest attack on Riyadh's [00:00:42] Riyadh's international airport by by the Iran-backed Houthi group in [00:00:45] in Yemen. As America's mid-term elections elections loom, a special report [00:00:48] report into why data centres powering powering the AI boom are becoming [00:00:52] becoming a political flashpoint. [00:00:56] flashpoint. Big night planned. And And Robert Pattinson tells the BBC [00:00:59] BBC why he took on the role of a [00:01:01] a journalist who helps expose child [00:01:03] child predators in his new film Primetime. [00:01:16] Hello, I'm Geeta Guru-Murthy. Thanks for being with us. Ukraine [00:01:19] Ukraine says Russia has continued continued carrying out deadly attacks [00:01:23] attacks despite a so-called energy energy ceasefire proposed by President [00:01:26] President Trump. President Zelensky Zelensky said Russia hit power plants [00:01:29] plants and civilian areas following following the announcement. This [00:01:32] This footage shows damage from an [00:01:34] an industrial site near Kyiv. Yesterday, Yesterday, President Trump posted [00:01:37] posted this, claiming the two sides sides had agreed to stop attacks [00:01:41] attacks on energy facilities effective effective immediately. But the Kremlin [00:01:44] Kremlin has yet to comment. Mr Zelensky Zelensky said the announcement was [00:01:47] was news to him, but that Ukraine Ukraine would support a ceasefire [00:01:50] ceasefire if Russia sticks to the the terms. Relations between Mr Zelensky [00:01:54] Zelensky and Mr Trump have deteriorated deteriorated as the US President [00:01:57] President tries to get the cost of [00:01:58] of oil and diesel down before the [00:02:01] the US mid-terms. Dan Johnson reports [00:02:03] reports from Kyiv. On the edge of [00:02:05] of Kharkiv. Last night. A reminder [00:02:10] reminder Russia has not stopped attacking [00:02:14] attacking Ukraine. This woman was [00:02:17] was filming after the sirens asking [00:02:18] asking where would be hit. She was [00:02:22] was lucky to survive a strike on on a shop that killed three people [00:02:26] people and injured more than 20. [00:02:29] 20. This just hours after Donald [00:02:31] Donald Trump announced his partial [00:02:34] partial truce on Truth Social, he he wrote effective immediately, there [00:02:38] there is an energy ceasefire in the the war between Russia and Ukraine. [00:02:42] Ukraine. Both parties have agreed [00:02:44] agreed do not break it. Ukraine's [00:02:49] Ukraine's been targeting Russian Russian oil refineries in response [00:02:51] response to attacks on its own power [00:02:53] power grid. Ukraine said it was ready ready to cease if Russia did the [00:02:57] the same. But Donald Trump's announcement announcement appeared to come as [00:03:00] as a surprise to President Zelensky. [00:03:04] Zelensky. Ukraine is ready to refrain [00:03:06] refrain from striking Russia's energy energy infrastructure, and we expect [00:03:10] expect Russia to show the same readiness readiness and honour. The agreement [00:03:13] agreement reached with the President President of the United States. He'd [00:03:17] He'd better damn well stop. It was [00:03:20] was a tense weekend of fractured fractured US Ukraine relations. I [00:03:24] I suggest they get a new leader who [00:03:26] who can make a deal. The row started [00:03:29] started when Donald Trump lifted lifted export restrictions on Russian [00:03:32] Russian diesel. Many believe to ease ease fuel prices driven up by the [00:03:36] the war in Iran. In Kyiv, the streets [00:03:42] streets have fallen dark and quiet [00:03:44] quiet as its power network has been [00:03:46] been pounded. Many people here are are without light, heat or water [00:03:50] water because electricity is needed needed to pump it. Ukrainians were [00:03:53] were braced for a very difficult difficult few months ahead into the [00:03:56] the winter, so there's a lot riding riding on this cease fire. But even [00:04:00] even if it holds, the war is not [00:04:03] not over. That was hammered home [00:04:07] home with more drones heading for [00:04:09] for the capital. And within two hours [00:04:14] hours this was Kharkiv's main power power station, leaving Ukrainians [00:04:17] Ukrainians questioning what impact impact this cease fire will have. [00:04:21] have. Dan Johnson, BBC News in Kyiv. Kyiv. President Zelensky has been [00:04:25] been addressing the Warsaw Security Security Forum. He says reassurances reassurances from President Trump [00:04:28] Trump of an energy cease fire have [00:04:30] have not held. Russia launched a [00:04:34] a targeted strike on a power plant [00:04:37] plant in Kharkiv causing further [00:04:43] further damage to our energy system. [00:04:45] system. It was clear that Putin does [00:04:49] does not read through social and [00:04:53] and he is cheeky. Drones follow a [00:04:54] a different set of instructions, [00:04:57] instructions, but this post is actually [00:05:00] actually about something that affects [00:05:02] affects the lives of millions of [00:05:05] of people, and that makes it very, [00:05:08] very, very important. First of all [00:05:11] all in Ukraine because Russia is [00:05:13] is trying to use another winter, [00:05:15] winter, another period of cold weather [00:05:18] weather against our country taking [00:05:20] taking our power plants, power grids [00:05:23] grids and all parts of our energy [00:05:26] energy infrastructure every single single day. Speaking in the same [00:05:30] same forum in Warsaw, Poland's Prime Prime Minister Donald Tusk said this [00:05:32] this latest so-called energy ceasefire [00:05:34] ceasefire followed a similar pattern. [00:05:36] pattern. Response. From Russia to [00:05:40] to this good proposal was an attack [00:05:44] attack against energy infrastructure [00:05:45] infrastructure in Kharkiv. It's every [00:05:48] every time the same. If you propose [00:05:53] propose Russia to cease fire to stop stop bombing critical infrastructure, [00:05:57] infrastructure, to seize bombing [00:06:01] bombing civilian facilities, which which Russia does on regular basis [00:06:05] basis is met with brutal and arrogant [00:06:10] arrogant answer. I'm going to take [00:06:15] take you now to a speech by the AI [00:06:17] AI minister in the UK, Kanishka Narayan [00:06:20] Narayan MP, who's talking about safety safety of AI systems. Let's listen. [00:06:24] listen. In an insufficient to the the scale of the challenge, but it [00:06:28] it established a deeply important important principle when technology [00:06:31] technology changes the balance of [00:06:33] of power and society, the government government has to protect those who [00:06:37] who bear the costs. Crucially, to [00:06:40] to do so means more than simply passing [00:06:42] passing new laws. It means creating [00:06:44] creating the institutions with deep [00:06:47] deep expertise to act. That belief [00:06:49] belief that who has power matters matters as much as what powers they [00:06:53] they have is a core foundational foundational belief of the labour [00:06:56] labour movement. Progress must serve serve the people whose work has made [00:07:00] made it possible. Technological change change should serve human dignity. [00:07:03] dignity. The state has a responsibility responsibility to ensure that its [00:07:07] its benefits are shared. We are once [00:07:09] once again living through a technological technological revolution whose consequences [00:07:13] consequences will be felt for generations generations as we cross the threshold [00:07:16] threshold into the age of superintelligence, superintelligence, the choices we [00:07:20] we make now matter. And so I'm making [00:07:23] making a simple choice we must build [00:07:26] build machines that serve US, machines [00:07:28] machines that help scientists discover discover new medicines, machines [00:07:32] machines that give care workers more more time with the people who depend [00:07:34] depend on them, machines that help [00:07:36] help British businesses become more [00:07:39] more productive above all machines [00:07:41] machines that leave us human beings [00:07:43] beings in charge. But if that is is our defining belief, we must be [00:07:47] be prepared to put it into swift [00:07:50] swift action and we must do so now. [00:07:53] now. Meeting this critical moment, moment, the British public is right [00:07:56] right to expect that this government government ought to take the risks [00:07:59] risks of AI seriously. Our first first responsibility is to keep our [00:08:03] our country safe. That is why the the Prime Minister decided to give [00:08:06] give me a seat at the cabinet table table in recognising that Britain [00:08:10] Britain takes artificial intelligence intelligence seriously, we recognise [00:08:14] recognise its extraordinary potential, potential, but we're equally determined [00:08:17] determined to confront its risks. [00:08:20] risks. I understand why people are [00:08:22] are naturally anxious about their their jobs and what artificial intelligence [00:08:26] intelligence means for their children's children's future. I feel that concern, [00:08:29] concern, that anxiety to. I won't [00:08:31] won't promise that we can stop change. change. We can't. But this government [00:08:35] government will make a central promise promise to the British public that that we will never leave working [00:08:39] working people to bear the cost of of this change, and I will work with [00:08:42] with my colleagues every hour of of every day to secure our kids and [00:08:46] and their kids future, their opportunity. [00:08:49] opportunity. Now, in recent weeks, weeks, the British public has heard [00:08:52] heard extraordinary predictions from from both companies and employees [00:08:55] employees at the forefront of this this technology. The public is right [00:08:59] right to expect that in the face face of these, the government ought [00:09:02] ought to take warnings extremely [00:09:05] extremely seriously and we do the [00:09:08] the responsibility then begins with with protecting people from new social [00:09:11] social harms. I was proud to be the the minister who banned the appalling [00:09:14] appalling use of AI to create intimate intimate images of women and girls [00:09:18] girls without their consent. I was was proud, alongside the Secretary Secretary of State, to stand up to [00:09:21] to the richest man in the world and and have our British position upheld [00:09:25] upheld in practice, and I was proud proud to be the minister who put [00:09:27] put our children's future above companies companies profits. Announcing a social [00:09:30] social media ban for Under-16s wherever [00:09:34] wherever new new harms emerge, we we have acted decisively and we will [00:09:38] will continue to act decisively. decisively. I'm working hand in glove glove with my colleague the Secretary [00:09:42] Secretary of State, Lisa Nandy, to [00:09:44] to do just that. In doing so, I also [00:09:47] also want to convey honesty. Many [00:09:49] Many of technology's new challenges challenges extend far beyond our [00:09:53] our own borders, increasingly capable [00:09:55] capable models are distributed openly. openly. They make it impossible to [00:09:59] to be an isolated island. That is [00:10:01] is why the Prime Minister has made made artificial intelligence a central [00:10:05] central focus of Britain's G20 presidency. [00:10:08] presidency. Next year. We know that that these challenges cannot be addressed [00:10:12] addressed by a single country alone, [00:10:15] alone, but by virtue of our capability, capability, by virtue of the foundations [00:10:17] foundations of our trust, Britain [00:10:19] Britain will play its part. The AI AI Security Institute will take a [00:10:23] a significant role in shaping our our collective understanding of technical [00:10:27] technical standards, and to kick kick that off, just this afternoon, afternoon, shortly after my speech, [00:10:31] speech, we will be publishing an an initial view of areas where we we want to see particular progress. [00:10:35] progress. This afternoon doing our our bit globally but also acting [00:10:39] acting at home. We will uniquely uniquely shape a British approach, [00:10:42] approach, bringing the best of what what makes this country the pragmatic, [00:10:46] pragmatic, forward facing country country that it is and through it [00:10:49] it I will be guided by a non-negotiable non-negotiable priority the safety [00:10:53] safety of the British public. We We will use every power at our disposal. [00:10:57] disposal. We will legislate wherever wherever necessary and we won't look [00:11:00] look to law alone. We will look to to British ingenuity, our scientific [00:11:04] scientific expertise, our technical technical capabilities, our institutions [00:11:07] institutions to understand these these increasingly powerful systems, [00:11:11] systems, defend against emerging emerging threats, to respond when [00:11:13] when things go wrong. All of that [00:11:16] that starts with understanding what what we're in fact dealing with. [00:11:20] with. Britain has a proud history history of bringing together brilliant [00:11:22] brilliant minds to tackle the great great technological challenges of [00:11:25] of our time. From the codebreakers codebreakers at Bletchley Park to [00:11:28] to the scientists and engineers working [00:11:30] working at the AI Security Institute Institute today, the AI Security [00:11:34] Security Institute is a brilliant brilliant part of the British state, [00:11:36] state, bringing together over 100 100 exceptional technical experts [00:11:40] experts to understand these systems systems and how they behave. Many [00:11:43] Many of these people could earn far far more elsewhere. Instead, they [00:11:47] they have chosen to put their talents talents to work in keeping our country [00:11:51] country safe. We should be enormously enormously proud of them, and I want [00:11:54] want to personally thank them for for all the work that they have done, [00:11:57] done, and I know we'll continue to to do. That is why over the last [00:12:00] last few weeks, we have been working [00:12:02] working closely with the US government, [00:12:05] government, the labs from His Majesty's Majesty's gathering of leading AI [00:12:08] AI developers at Dumfries House in in Scotland to discussions of the [00:12:12] the United Nations General Assembly Assembly in New York to retain access [00:12:15] access for Britain's AI Security Security Institute to the most powerful [00:12:19] powerful AI models before they are [00:12:21] are released. And I can confirm that [00:12:23] that AI scientists at the AI Security [00:12:26] Security Institute are now conducting conducting rigorous evaluations of [00:12:29] of the latest generation of models, [00:12:31] models, including Gemini for argon argon to identify risks early to [00:12:35] to test robust safeguards to help [00:12:37] help keep people safe. Of course, [00:12:41] course, I know that understanding understanding of these systems must must look ahead and not just look [00:12:44] look back. It means finding new ways [00:12:46] ways to verify and discern capabilities. [00:12:49] capabilities. One avenue is hardware hardware enabled verification drawing [00:12:53] drawing on Britain's expertise in in semiconductor design, this is [00:12:57] is early research, but I am determined determined that Britain will lead [00:13:00] lead it, bringing these together together both our existing expertise [00:13:03] expertise in the testing of models models new prospective capabilities [00:13:07] capabilities in verification. Britain's Britain's unparalleled position of [00:13:10] of understanding will be the foundation foundation on which our AI security [00:13:14] security will be built. Now understanding understanding risks is essential, [00:13:17] essential, but we must also make make Britain harder to attack and [00:13:21] and better prepared when AI systems systems behave unexpectedly. Take [00:13:24] Take a look at what happened in Australia [00:13:26] Australia just earlier this year. [00:13:28] year. An OpenAI agent went looking looking for information about public [00:13:32] public spending on medicines. It It arrived on a government website website where restrictions were placed [00:13:36] placed on what it could access, so [00:13:39] so it found another way in its task [00:13:42] task was benign, legitimate but without without being asked to do so, the [00:13:46] the agent gained access to information information that it was not authorised [00:13:50] authorised to have. The Australian Australian government has said that [00:13:53] that no personal medical records records are known to have been accessed, [00:13:56] accessed, and there is no evidence evidence of wider compromise. But [00:13:59] But the incident should concern us. [00:14:02] us. It concerns me. It seems likely, [00:14:05] likely, if not inevitable, that our [00:14:07] our own cyber defences will be breached. [00:14:10] breached. Our National Cyber Security Security Centre has warned that AI [00:14:13] AI will almost certainly make elements [00:14:15] elements of cyber intrusion more [00:14:17] more effective, more efficient. So So my colleague the Security Minister, [00:14:21] Minister, Dan Jarvis, the government's government's lead Security Minister, [00:14:23] Minister, has been the Security Minister Minister will be leading a cross-government [00:14:27] cross-government programme to strengthen strengthen our defences against cyber [00:14:29] cyber attacks, including from AI. AI. We published the government's [00:14:32] government's cyber Action Plan earlier earlier this year addressing these [00:14:35] these concerns and soon we will be [00:14:37] be launching the National Cyber Action [00:14:39] Action Plan. But if AI gives those those who could attack Britain's [00:14:43] Britain's new capabilities significant significant new capabilities, we [00:14:45] we must use the same technology to [00:14:48] to make sure Britain is harder to to attack. And so today I'm sharing [00:14:52] sharing findings of work already. already. Way to do that across two [00:14:55] two government pilots, frontier AI AI has helped identify and address [00:14:59] address more than a thousand vulnerabilities vulnerabilities alongside other threats [00:15:02] threats to our public services. Our [00:15:05] Our central vulnerability monitoring monitoring service has already helped [00:15:08] helped reduce the time taken to fix [00:15:10] fix identified weaknesses from 50 [00:15:14] 50 days to just eight. Built on these [00:15:16] these advances, I want us to go further. further. So today I'm announcing [00:15:19] announcing that the DCMS Cyber Minister, Minister, the Security Minister and [00:15:23] and I will lead the urgent use of [00:15:25] of frontier AI capabilities to find [00:15:28] find weaknesses within government government systems before attackers attackers exploit them, protect essential [00:15:32] essential government systems and and respond more effectively to emerging [00:15:35] emerging threats. I want Britain Britain to become one of the hardest [00:15:38] hardest countries in the world to [00:15:39] to attack using artificial intelligence [00:15:43] intelligence wherever stronger defences defences will need stronger legislative [00:15:46] legislative support, we will secure secure it. The Cyber Security and [00:15:49] and Resilience Bill gives us an opportunity opportunity to do precisely that. [00:15:53] that. We will work with Parliament Parliament and technical experts [00:15:56] experts to assess how we can strengthen strengthen the regime to better protect [00:15:59] protect Britain for AI driven cyber cyber threats and loss of control [00:16:02] control risks. That includes identifying identifying and reporting on serious [00:16:06] serious incidents and near misses, misses, including reducing AI driven [00:16:10] driven risk across essential services services and ensuring serious AI [00:16:14] AI incidents can be properly reviewed. reviewed. Beyond defence, we will [00:16:17] will also prepare Britain to respond [00:16:19] respond to incidents as AI systems [00:16:21] systems are used more widely with with less human oversight. Incidents [00:16:25] Incidents like the one in Australia Australia will become more likely [00:16:28] likely and their effects could spread spread across systems faster than [00:16:31] than anyone could trace them. When When that happens, government must [00:16:34] must be able to establish quickly [00:16:36] quickly what an agent was asked to [00:16:39] to do, what it accessed, why it acted acted as it did, and whether the [00:16:42] the same failure could occur elsewhere. [00:16:46] elsewhere. That is specialist work. work. It needs expertise that the [00:16:49] the state has not needed before. [00:16:51] before. So we are taking the first first step, working with the Department [00:16:55] Department for digital, culture, culture, Media and Sport. The National [00:16:58] National Cyber Security Centre and and the AI Security Institute. We [00:17:02] We will now develop robust ways for for government to respond to Agentic [00:17:05] Agentic AI incidents. Looking in in particular at how incidents can [00:17:09] can be contained and how those affected [00:17:11] affected can be supported. Early Early factory laws mattered because [00:17:14] because Parliament was prepared to to establish institutions capable [00:17:18] capable of enforcing them. Our responsibility [00:17:20] responsibility today is no different. different. As artificial intelligence [00:17:24] intelligence becomes more capable, capable, Britain must become more [00:17:27] more capable at protecting its people. [00:17:31] people. Now that task cannot be carried carried by government alone. I want [00:17:34] want cyber security discussed in in every boardroom in Britain rather [00:17:37] rather than simply delegated to middle middle management and to the companies [00:17:41] companies developing the world's world's most powerful AI systems. [00:17:43] systems. My message is this listen, [00:17:46] listen, when your scientists warn [00:17:48] warn of severe dangers, investigate [00:17:51] investigate unexpected behaviours. behaviours. And if you can't adequately [00:17:54] adequately control the risks, do do not release the system. I want [00:17:58] want the labs to be honest and in [00:18:00] in turn, Britain too must be honest [00:18:03] honest about its position. Much of of the technology that will shape [00:18:06] shape our economy, our public services, services, our national security is [00:18:10] is being developed outside this country [00:18:12] country in the last technological technological revolution, Britain [00:18:15] Britain became increasingly dependent dependent on technologies developed [00:18:19] developed and controlled elsewhere. elsewhere. That is now a question [00:18:23] question of national security. Also [00:18:24] Also a question of democratic power. [00:18:27] power. If the British state cannot cannot exercise meaningful control [00:18:30] control over the technologies on on which our country depends, neither [00:18:33] neither can the people that it represents. represents. So Labour governments [00:18:37] governments have historically always always confronted technological change. [00:18:41] change. Harold Wilson understood understood that the scientific revolution [00:18:45] revolution demanded new institutions. institutions. His government helped helped establish the Open University. [00:18:48] University. Widening access to education. [00:18:52] education. In 1978, James Callaghan's Callaghan's government backed Inmos Inmos with £50 million of public [00:18:56] public investment. Its pioneering pioneering work in Bristol and in [00:18:59] in Newport helped establish an industrial industrial legacy that remains important [00:19:02] important to South Wales semiconductor semiconductor industry. When I visited [00:19:06] visited that cluster, I saw young young people, including brilliant [00:19:09] brilliant women, undertaking advanced advanced engineering apprenticeships, apprenticeships, developing the skills [00:19:12] skills to build the next generation generation of technology. Britain's [00:19:16] Britain's early leadership and personal personal computing helped give rise [00:19:19] rise to ARM, now one of the world's world's most important semiconductor [00:19:22] semiconductor design companies. The The bitter lesson of the past is [00:19:26] is that an early lead in technology [00:19:28] technology is not the same as retaining [00:19:30] retaining the power to shape its [00:19:33] its future. And so I come to my final [00:19:35] final theme. Yes, we will convene convene countries to keep Britain [00:19:38] Britain safe. Yes, we will test models models to keep the British public [00:19:41] public safe. Yes, we will harden harden our defences to keep the British [00:19:45] British public safe. But most crucially, crucially, we will and we must build [00:19:48] build in Britain to keep the public public safe. In Britain. That is [00:19:52] is why we are backing British capability capability through our sovereign sovereign AI programme and through [00:19:55] through our AI hardware plan. We We one the world's leading companies [00:19:59] companies investing here. But we we will not accept dependence as [00:20:02] as the price of that investment, investment, nor should we build infrastructure [00:20:06] infrastructure simply because a company company wants it. We must be clear [00:20:09] clear about what Britain needs and [00:20:10] and what our people receive in return. [00:20:14] return. The British national interest interest will be and must be our [00:20:17] our guiding principle. And so this this brings me to the political tradition [00:20:20] tradition that brought me into public public life. Labour's historic task [00:20:23] task has been to guide Britain through [00:20:26] through profound economic change, change, defending human dignity, [00:20:29] dignity, widening opportunity, giving giving people greater security. Those [00:20:32] Those values remain fundamental, fundamental, but I believe the age [00:20:36] age of artificial intelligence demands. [00:20:39] demands. Another agency the power power of working people to influence influence how technology changes [00:20:43] changes their jobs of citizens to to challenge decisions affecting [00:20:46] affecting their lives of democratic democratic government to determine [00:20:49] determine the country's future. I I will not accept a future in which [00:20:52] which Britain depends on technologies technologies it cannot understand [00:20:55] understand or control. While working working people bear the costs of [00:20:58] of progress, they had no power to to shape. Britain must have the power [00:21:02] power to build its own future and and the British people must have [00:21:04] have the power to shape it. That That is the central responsibility [00:21:08] responsibility of this Labour government government and it is one I'm determined determined we will meet with the [00:21:12] the defining principle of our approach. approach. We must build machines [00:21:14] machines that serve us. I will take [00:21:17] take a series of questions from the the floor and then I'm conscious [00:21:20] conscious there's some media questions questions that are to come as well. [00:21:23] well. I know some of you had named named questions here, so why don't [00:21:26] don't I take a round of three in in the first instance? I'll come come to you. If you could tell us [00:21:30] us your name at the very outset as as well. And then I'll come to Mary [00:21:33] Mary afterwards as well. Tom Coates, Coates, professor in the Department [00:21:36] Department of Mathematics. Thank Thank you for the clear eyed vision. [00:21:40] vision. If we're thinking about the the resilience and the economic security [00:21:43] security of the UK, what are the [00:21:45] the key outcomes that UK AI investment investment should target and how [00:21:49] how do we get there? Great. Mary. [00:21:55] Mary. Hi. Thanks. Mary Ryan. I'm I'm the vice provost for research [00:21:58] research and enterprise at Imperial. Imperial. Really appreciate the vision [00:22:02] vision of the speech. And I guess guess the holistic way that you framed [00:22:05] framed the government's approach approach to AI and AI safety benefiting [00:22:08] benefiting society. But I guess within within that there's a there's an [00:22:12] an assertion that there will be skills skills developed at all levels throughout throughout society in order that [00:22:16] that each part of society has agency. agency. So I guess I'm interested [00:22:19] interested in what the government government is is planning in terms [00:22:23] terms of upskilling from you know, [00:22:25] know, teenagers through to the government government civil servants, how are [00:22:28] are we going to get the capacity capacity to deliver on this vision? [00:22:31] vision? Great question. Rupert, do do you have a question? Yeah. Thanks [00:22:34] Thanks so much for really inspiring [00:22:36] inspiring stuff. And as the MP for [00:22:39] for Ealing Central and Acton in this this fabulous. Kanishka Narayan, [00:22:42] Narayan, the UK AI minister there [00:22:45] there outlining outlining a plan plan for greater resilience, especially [00:22:49] especially from cyber defences, he [00:22:51] he says he does believe, as we saw [00:22:53] saw in Australia, with the health health system being hacked, that [00:22:56] that cyber defences will be attacked attacked in the UK and so they're [00:22:59] they're trying to develop a bigger [00:23:04] bigger cross department cross-government [00:23:06] cross-government plan to secure the the UK infrastructure. He talked [00:23:09] talked about wanting a more sovereign sovereign sense for UK power though [00:23:13] though of course, like all countries, [00:23:15] countries, the UK is very reliant [00:23:17] reliant on the US and China and a [00:23:20] a small handful of very powerful powerful companies. But he said that [00:23:23] that he was going to keep supporting [00:23:26] supporting the AI Security Institute [00:23:29] Institute and the scientists there. [00:23:31] there. So a strong statement on trying [00:23:33] trying to protect resilience of the [00:23:37] the UK, on the cyber front to AI [00:23:41] AI threats. Let's move on. And Yemen's [00:23:43] Yemen's Houthi rebels have renewed renewed their warnings against using [00:23:47] using airports in Saudi Arabia. It It comes after two deadly strikes [00:23:50] strikes on Riyadh's main international international airport in as many [00:23:53] many days. Saudi officials say one one person was killed and 11 wounded [00:23:56] wounded in an attack on King Khalid Khalid International Airport on Sunday, [00:23:59] Sunday, the day before 13 people people were killed and more than [00:24:02] than 300 injured in a missile strike. strike. The deadliest attack on Saudi [00:24:04] Saudi soil in more than a decade. decade. The Houthis, who are backed [00:24:07] backed by Iran, say they're targeting targeting Saudi Arabia over its support [00:24:10] support for government forces in in Yemen's civil war. Here's our [00:24:13] our world news correspondent Joe [00:24:15] Joe Inwood. Saturday morning. One [00:24:18] One of Saudi Arabia's busiest airports. airports. Hundreds of people from [00:24:22] from all over the world waiting for [00:24:24] for their flight. Then this a missile [00:24:27] missile hitting a crowded terminal, terminal, killing more than a dozen [00:24:30] dozen people, wounding over 300. [00:24:33] 300. The emergency services were were said to be overwhelmed. Late [00:24:36] Late last night, a group called the the Houthis claimed responsibility [00:24:40] responsibility not just for Saturday's Saturday's attack but for this one. [00:24:43] one. Last Thursday at the same airport, [00:24:46] airport, another one yesterday, as as well as one at a state run gas [00:24:50] gas plant with the help of Almighty Almighty God, the armed forces carried [00:24:54] carried out for qualitative operations operations over the past 24 hours [00:24:57] hours using a number of ballistic ballistic and winged missiles as [00:25:00] as well as drones. The first operation operation targeted King Khalid Airport [00:25:03] Airport in Riyadh. The second operation [00:25:05] operation targeted an Aramco gas [00:25:08] gas plant. The Houthis are a group group that control large parts of [00:25:11] of Yemen just to the south of Saudi [00:25:14] Saudi Arabia. For more than a decade, decade, there's been a brutal civil [00:25:17] civil war there. The Houthis on one [00:25:20] one side, the internationally recognised recognised government, which is backed [00:25:23] backed by Saudi Arabia, on the other, other, for the last couple of years [00:25:26] years there's been an uneasy truce. truce. But that's been shattered. [00:25:30] shattered. The Houthis made lightning lightning advances down the coast [00:25:34] coast last month, allowing them to to threaten Saudi shipping in the [00:25:37] the Red Sea. Saudi Arabia responded [00:25:40] responded with air strikes. The Houthis Houthis have been firing back. As [00:25:43] As we've seen this weekend, President [00:25:45] President Trump is an ally of the the Saudis. He condemned the attack [00:25:49] attack on Riyadh airport but did [00:25:51] did not say he would get involved. involved. I think it's terrible, [00:25:54] terrible, terrible. The Saudis able able to defend themselves without [00:25:58] without us. Well, they're able to to defend look, the Saudis are good [00:26:01] good fighters. But I think the attack attack was a terrible thing. This [00:26:05] This attack was the most severe on on Saudi soil in over a decade. Some [00:26:09] Some of those killed are now being [00:26:11] being identified. One of them, Buthaina Buthaina Awada, was a mother of four [00:26:15] four from Syria. She was a victim victim of a conflict that she had [00:26:18] had no part in. But that seems to [00:26:21] to be escalating dangerously. Joe [00:26:24] Joe Inwood, BBC News. BBC News. I'm [00:26:27] I'm Geeta Guru-Murthy stay with us. us. I'm back soon. But first Lukwesa [00:26:30] Lukwesa is here with all the business [00:26:32] business for you. Thanks for joining [00:26:35] joining us. [00:30:11] people. For the latest, follow us us on the President's path here on [00:30:15] on BBC News. MUSIC [00:30:32] On BBC News. The latest [00:30:34] business news from across the globe. [00:30:36] globe. 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