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[00:00:10] Live from London. This is BBC News with me, Ben Brown. Our latest
[00:00:14] latest headlines. Saudi Arabia threatens
[00:00:16] threatens what it calls a serious serious response to deadly Houthi
[00:00:20] Houthi attacks on Riyadh's international international airport. Flights remain
[00:00:23] remain suspended. We'll have a special special report from inside Yemen,
[00:00:27] Yemen, where the long running civil civil war is escalating. We've been
[00:00:31] been told that there are Houthi fighters
[00:00:33] fighters in position up in the mountains. mountains. About 500 of them. And
[00:00:37] And since we've been here, the forces forces are keeping an eye on the
[00:00:40] the sky just to make sure that there
[00:00:42] there are no more drones coming.
[00:00:46] coming. Ukraine's President Volodymyr Volodymyr Zelensky says Russia hit
[00:00:48] hit a power plant in Ukraine immediately
[00:00:50] immediately after US President Donald Donald Trump claimed that both sides
[00:00:53] sides in the war had agreed to an
[00:00:55] an energy ceasefire. The UK Prime
[00:00:59] Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, says says he will push for new post-Brexit
[00:01:02] post-Brexit trade deals with the
[00:01:05] the EU and that the status quo with
[00:01:07] with Europe is not good enough for
[00:01:09] for Britain. Federal agents in the the United States searched the home
[00:01:13] home of the Democratic congresswoman congresswoman Ilhan Omar just weeks
[00:01:17] weeks before the mid-term elections. elections. The Justice Department
[00:01:19] Department says it is part of a criminal
[00:01:23] criminal investigation.
[00:01:33] Officials in Saudi Arabia say
[00:01:35] they are dealing with new drone and and missile threats facing the country
[00:01:39] country from Iranian backed Houthi Houthi rebels in Yemen. Flights are
[00:01:43] are still suspended at Saudi Arabia's Arabia's main international airport
[00:01:46] airport after a series of deadly deadly strikes by Houthis over the
[00:01:49] the weekend. This is footage from from the attack on Saturday. The
[00:01:53] The pictures are quite graphic. 13
[00:01:56] 13 people were killed in this attack
[00:01:58] attack when a missile hit King Khalid
[00:02:00] Khalid International airport in Riyadh. Riyadh. Hundreds of people were injured.
[00:02:04] injured. Another person was killed
[00:02:05] killed in the attack there on Sunday. Sunday. Well, these pictures show
[00:02:09] show the burned out fuselage of a
[00:02:12] a plane sitting on the tarmac after
[00:02:14] after an attack on Thursday. Yemen's
[00:02:17] Yemen's long running civil war, meanwhile,
[00:02:20] meanwhile, is escalating and expanding.
[00:02:22] expanding. Houthi rebels backed by
[00:02:24] by Iran have been striking key targets, targets, as we've just seen in Saudi
[00:02:28] Saudi Arabia over the last few days.
[00:02:29] days. Well, the war first began in
[00:02:32] in 2014 when Houthi fighters gained gained control of the capital Sanaa.
[00:02:36] Sanaa. Since the year after that, that, a Saudi led coalition has been
[00:02:40] been trying with heavy air strikes strikes to restore the internationally
[00:02:43] internationally recognised government government to power. Well, in recent
[00:02:47] recent weeks the Houthis swept along along the west coast of the country,
[00:02:50] country, taking control of the Bab
[00:02:52] Bab el Mandeb Strait, which is a a key maritime corridor and choke
[00:02:56] choke point. Since then, Saudi backed
[00:03:00] backed government forces have retaken retaken some territory. Well, our
[00:03:03] our senior international correspondent correspondent Orla Guerin reports reports now from Yemen's west coast.
[00:03:07] coast. You may find some of her report
[00:03:11] report distressing. Crossing the
[00:03:14] the desert, a remote battlefield battlefield in a civil war that is
[00:03:17] is fast becoming a major regional
[00:03:20] regional threat. We travelled with
[00:03:23] with Yemen's southern forces fighters fighters loyal to the internationally
[00:03:27] internationally recognised government government in this landscape of harsh
[00:03:31] harsh beauty. They have regained
[00:03:34] regained lost ground and took us
[00:03:36] us to see it here. The wreckage of
[00:03:38] of a Houthi drone shot out of the
[00:03:41] the sky. How much damage could this
[00:03:45] this have done? Commander Tawfik
[00:03:47] Tawfik Al Haugen says it contained
[00:03:50] contained explosives. And could kill
[00:03:54] kill 10 to 15 people. This whole
[00:03:58] whole area has just been retaken retaken by pro-government forces.
[00:04:02] forces. They captured it about three
[00:04:05] three days ago. Until then, the Houthis
[00:04:06] Houthis were in control here. They've They've been pushed back. And we've
[00:04:10] we've been told that there are Houthi
[00:04:12] Houthi fighters in position up in in the mountains. About 500 of them.
[00:04:16] them. And since we've been here, here, the forces are keeping an eye
[00:04:19] eye on the sky just to make sure
[00:04:21] sure that there are no more drones
[00:04:23] drones coming. And hear scenes from
[00:04:26] from the battle to retake this territory.
[00:04:32] territory. No military precision
[00:04:33] precision in this desert campaign.
[00:04:36] campaign. Just a loose alliance of of pro-government fighters. Some
[00:04:40] Some of them barefoot. As we left
[00:04:46] left front lines about a mile from
[00:04:49] from the Houthis government reinforcements
[00:04:51] reinforcements were heading in. Along
[00:04:55] Along the way, a tableau of suffering
[00:04:58] suffering for some of those who have
[00:05:00] have fled the fighting. The only
[00:05:03] only shelter is the trees. Aisha
[00:05:05] Aisha tells me she has been here
[00:05:08] here for 30 days with no money, no
[00:05:12] no food and no water. Not even a
[00:05:15] a blanket. Yemen's civil war is casting
[00:05:18] casting a shadow well beyond its
[00:05:21] its borders. The Houthis are a threat
[00:05:23] threat to international shipping shipping and increasingly a threat
[00:05:27] threat to Saudi Arabia. But for their
[00:05:29] their backers in Iran, they provide
[00:05:34] provide leverage in operating rooms
[00:05:35] rooms in the city of Aden. Geopolitics
[00:05:38] Geopolitics feels remote. Night and
[00:05:40] and day, doctors are treating wounded
[00:05:43] wounded fighters. That includes the
[00:05:46] the enemy. This man is a Houthi.
[00:05:49] Houthi. But most here are from the
[00:05:52] the government side. When you get get a real sense here of how fierce
[00:05:56] fierce the fighting is, this hospital
[00:05:58] hospital alone has received 51 wounded
[00:06:01] wounded fighters today. Every bed bed in the intensive care unit is
[00:06:05] is full. They've been arriving with
[00:06:07] with gunshot wounds with shrapnel.
[00:06:10] shrapnel. Some have had limbs amputated. amputated. And the casualties keep
[00:06:13] keep coming. We've been told there
[00:06:14] there are three more on the way.
[00:06:18] way. The battles in Yemen are ebbing
[00:06:21] ebbing and flowing with no clear
[00:06:24] clear victor, but plenty more trauma.
[00:06:26] trauma. For some, the war will always
[00:06:29] always be with them. Some still have
[00:06:32] have their fighting spirit. Like
[00:06:35] Like Ahmed Ali Mahmoud. He wants
[00:06:36] wants to get back to the front despite
[00:06:40] despite multiple fractures. I'm not
[00:06:46] not waiting to be fully recovered, recovered, he told us. I just want
[00:06:48] want to be able to stand. I think
[00:06:51] think it's a religious duty and a
[00:06:53] a national duty. The Houthis have
[00:06:56] have destroyed the country. In the
[00:07:00] the next ward, Ali, who is 121 year
[00:07:03] year older than Yemen's war. He was
[00:07:06] was injured by a drone and is now
[00:07:08] now facing a complicated surgery.
[00:07:11] surgery. There is shrapnel near his
[00:07:13] his spine, says Doctor Ammar Al-sakkaf.
[00:07:16] Al-sakkaf. The operation won't be be easy, but God willing our staff
[00:07:20] staff will be able to handle it.
[00:07:23] it. But will war follow Ali into
[00:07:26] into adulthood? Orla Guerin, BBC
[00:07:29] BBC News Southern Yemen. And just
[00:07:32] just on that story, we've heard that that Houthi officials are warning
[00:07:35] warning of, quote, a swift, painful
[00:07:37] painful response if the United States
[00:07:40] States enters the war in Yemen. And
[00:07:42] And also Houthi officials are warning
[00:07:45] warning workers in Saudi Arabia to
[00:07:46] to stay away from Saudi oil facilities.
[00:07:50] facilities. So let's talk to our
[00:07:51] our global affairs correspondent, correspondent, Sebastian Usher, who
[00:07:55] who joins me now. Seb, how do you
[00:07:58] you see this conflict going in terms terms of Saudi Arabia saying there
[00:08:02] there will be a response to what what happened, especially those attacks
[00:08:05] attacks on the airport in Riyadh. Riyadh. But what realistically are
[00:08:09] are the Saudis likely or able to to do against the Houthis? That's
[00:08:12] That's their dilemma, essentially. essentially. I mean, of course, they've they've got all the wealth. They've
[00:08:16] They've got billions and billions
[00:08:18] billions that they've spent on weapons.
[00:08:21] weapons. They have a defence pact pact with Pakistan and Turkey. They
[00:08:25] They signed recently. They have us
[00:08:26] us as a very strong ally. The US
[00:08:29] US has carried out attacks on the
[00:08:32] the Houthis in the past. So, you you know, theoretically they can
[00:08:36] can call on a lot of support and and they have a lot of resources.
[00:08:39] resources. The problem is who they're they're fighting against the Houthis,
[00:08:41] Houthis, you know, are a group in
[00:08:44] in Yemen that fight asymmetrically, asymmetrically, obviously, who have have a very strong power base up
[00:08:48] up in the north and the West, which which no one has been able to dislodge
[00:08:52] dislodge them from for a decade now.
[00:08:55] now. And before that, they fought
[00:08:57] fought six wars with the then Yemeni Yemeni government, 2004 to 2010,
[00:09:01] 2010, which were again fought to to a standstill. So they are a very,
[00:09:05] very, very difficult. Combatant to
[00:09:10] to really inflict the kind of pain pain the Houthis are able to inflict
[00:09:14] inflict on the Saudis with these
[00:09:16] these huge targets airports, oil
[00:09:18] oil facilities, etc the Houthis don't
[00:09:20] don't have that. And the Houthis Houthis are able to soak up pain
[00:09:24] pain in a microcosm, a way that Iran
[00:09:27] Iran has done with the US. So the
[00:09:29] the Saudis have to decide they've they've already essentially gone
[00:09:32] gone in very hard backing pro-government
[00:09:36] pro-government forces on the ground ground against the Houthis. A major major offensive was launched just
[00:09:39] just a few days ago. At the moment moment we don't really. I mean, from
[00:09:42] from all his report there and also also what we've seen, we don't have
[00:09:45] have any real indication of who he's he's been forced back that much.
[00:09:49] much. So how much do the Saudis step step this up and how much pain are
[00:09:52] are the Saudis happy to take? And And you mentioned Iran and the Houthis
[00:09:56] Houthis are backed by Iran. To what what extent is this conflict and
[00:10:00] and the reigniting of this conflict conflict in the last few weeks linked
[00:10:03] linked to the war in Iran? I mean,
[00:10:05] mean, the Houthis have existed without
[00:10:09] without needing the support of Iran
[00:10:10] Iran all the time. The internal dynamics
[00:10:15] dynamics of the war in Yemen didn't
[00:10:17] didn't really involve Iran to that
[00:10:20] that degree. But obviously, the fact fact that they moved against the
[00:10:23] the Bab el Mandeb Strait, which was was the way that the Saudis were
[00:10:27] were getting vessels exporting oil oil out, has to be seen as a way
[00:10:31] way of helping Iran in the pressure pressure that it's putting enantiomer enantiomer us by putting pressure
[00:10:35] pressure on the global economy, by by preventing oil from being exported.
[00:10:39] exported. That is adding to that
[00:10:41] that pressure. So, I mean, they're
[00:10:43] they're doing this to help Iran in
[00:10:46] in its war against the US. But the
[00:10:49] the Houthis have that aim in any
[00:10:51] any case. I mean for more than two
[00:10:54] two decades, 30 years or so, their
[00:10:57] their whole agenda has been about about facing off against Israel,
[00:11:00] Israel, facing off against the West. West. So to them, this is a continuation
[00:11:04] continuation of that. This in a sense, sense, almost an opportunistic way way of using what's happened with
[00:11:08] with the Iran war to advance what what they see as their own interests
[00:11:11] interests within Yemen, but also also beyond Yemen. So at the moment,
[00:11:15] moment, Iran and the Houthis essentially essentially have, have come to the
[00:11:18] the same position of where they stand stand in terms of their strategy
[00:11:21] strategy that could shift, that could could change. But at the moment, moment, yes, they're doing it in
[00:11:25] in support of Iran, but not necessarily necessarily entirely because Iran
[00:11:28] Iran has told them to do so. All All right. Sebastian Usher, thank
[00:11:31] thank you so much. Our global affairs affairs correspondent there. We'll
[00:11:35] We'll be looking at the latest on on the war in Ukraine in just a moment.
[00:11:38] moment. We'll take a short break break around the world and across
[00:11:40] across the UK. You're
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[00:12:45] Show on BBC News. Now. Let's bring
[00:12:53] bring you the latest from the United United States because federal authorities
[00:12:57] authorities there have carried out out an early morning raid on the
[00:13:00] the Washington home of the Democratic Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar,
[00:13:03] Omar, as part of an investigation. investigation. They say the congresswoman
[00:13:07] congresswoman represents a district district in Minnesota and has not
[00:13:11] not publicly commented so far. But
[00:13:13] But the investigation does come just
[00:13:15] just three weeks before Ilhan Omar
[00:13:17] Omar seeks re-election in the crucial crucial American mid-term elections.
[00:13:21] elections. And that has raised concerns
[00:13:23] concerns that this may be politically
[00:13:25] politically motivated. Ilhan Omar
[00:13:28] Omar came to the United States from
[00:13:30] from Somalia as a child. There are are reports that the investigation
[00:13:33] investigation does concern immigration immigration paperwork that was submitted
[00:13:36] submitted by her late father when when she was a child. So let's go
[00:13:40] go to our North America correspondent, correspondent, Ione Wells, who's
[00:13:43] who's outside the congresswoman's congresswoman's home in Washington
[00:13:45] Washington right now. I only what
[00:13:47] what is the latest on the investigation
[00:13:49] investigation and those
[00:13:53] politically motivated investigation?
[00:13:58] investigation? Well, I counted at at least a dozen federal agents from
[00:14:01] from the Department of Homeland Security Security Investigations who were
[00:14:04] were inside and outside Ilhan Omar's
[00:14:07] Omar's house here in Washington. Washington. It's not clear if anyone anyone was actually home when they
[00:14:11] they arrived early this morning, morning, or indeed, what exactly exactly they might have seized from
[00:14:15] from this home. I did see them carrying carrying what appeared to be cardboard
[00:14:18] cardboard boxes into a van before before they drove away. Now, sources
[00:14:22] sources familiar with the investigation
[00:14:24] investigation say that this was then then carrying out a criminal warrant
[00:14:27] warrant and that it relates to her her immigration paperwork. We
[00:14:31] know that she first came to the US
[00:14:33] US as a refugee from
[00:14:36] before becoming naturalised as a a US citizen in the year 2000. But
[00:14:40] But the authorities haven't really really provided any detail at all
[00:14:43] all about this investigation, what what evidence they may have. She
[00:14:46] She has in the last couple of moments moments responded to this, saying,
[00:14:50] saying, make no mistake, this is is an attempt to target political
[00:14:54] political enemies and weaponise federal federal law enforcement. She has has also gone on to say that for
[00:14:58] for ten years, Donald Trump has targeted targeted her with what she describes
[00:15:01] describes as baseless lies and smear smear campaigns and that this is
[00:15:05] is the latest escalation in his campaign campaign of political intimidation
[00:15:08] intimidation that echoes really concerns concerns that have been raised by
[00:15:11] by other Democratic lawmakers as as well, who have called this an
[00:15:14] an abuse of power by federal authorities. authorities. There are concerns that
[00:15:17] that this has happened just three three weeks before crucial mid-term
[00:15:21] mid-term elections, where the Republicans Republicans will be defending thin
[00:15:23] thin majorities in both houses of
[00:15:26] of Congress. Donald Trump has repeatedly
[00:15:30] repeatedly targeted her made personal personal insults towards the representative
[00:15:33] representative Ilhan Omar, but also also accused the Somali-American Somali-American community more widely,
[00:15:37] widely, particularly in Minnesota, Minnesota, where she's a representative representative of being a threat
[00:15:41] threat to the community, something something which she and other Democrats
[00:15:44] Democrats have long disputed. OK, OK, thank you very much. Ione Wells
[00:15:47] Wells with the latest there from
[00:15:50] from Washington. Ukraine says Russia Russia has attacked its power plants
[00:15:53] plants despite a claim from President President Trump that both sides in
[00:15:56] in the war had agreed to an energy energy ceasefire. Ukraine says attacks
[00:16:00] attacks on energy infrastructure infrastructure in the capital Kyiv
[00:16:03] Kyiv and in the city of Kharkiv caused
[00:16:05] caused power blackouts, raising fresh fresh doubts about that supposed
[00:16:09] supposed energy agreement. Well, Well, President Zelensky has said
[00:16:12] said he was surprised by Donald Trump's Trump's claim that a ceasefire had
[00:16:15] had been agreed. Moscow has yet to
[00:16:17] to comment. Here's Joe Inwood. Vladimir
[00:16:24] Vladimir Putin may not have formally formally responded to Donald Trump's
[00:16:28] Trump's claim of an energy ceasefire,
[00:16:30] ceasefire, but in the city of Kharkiv,
[00:16:32] Kharkiv, people feel they've received
[00:16:34] received his answer. An overnight overnight strike near a shop killing
[00:16:37] killing at least three people and
[00:16:40] and injuring nine more. But according according to one woman who saw the
[00:16:43] the attack, the actual target was
[00:16:45] was the city's thermal power plant.
[00:16:48] plant. We'd already seen the statement statement that they wouldn't target target energy facilities, and we
[00:16:52] we really believed it. Ten minutes had passed and there had
[00:16:55] had already been five strikes.
[00:16:57] My child and I hit thermal power plant number five
[00:17:01] five and watched it burn there. It's
[00:17:03] It's horrific. This weekend has seen
[00:17:06] seen a head spinning, chaotic series series of events, all stemming from
[00:17:10] from rising fuel costs in the US
[00:17:12] US on Friday, Donald Trump announced announced he'd done a deal to buy
[00:17:15] buy Russian diesel completely reversing
[00:17:18] reversing previous policy and seen seen as a betrayal by Ukraine and
[00:17:22] and many others. On Saturday, Volodymyr Volodymyr Zelensky said that Russian
[00:17:25] Russian glide bomb attacks were a
[00:17:27] a thank you for what he called a
[00:17:30] a weak deal. Later that day, Donald Donald Trump blamed Ukrainian attacks
[00:17:34] attacks on Russian
[00:17:37] for rising diesel prices and called called on President Zelensky to quit.
[00:17:41] quit. Before last night announcing announcing on his Truth Social platform
[00:17:44] platform that both Russia and Ukraine Ukraine had agreed to stop attacking
[00:17:47] attacking each other's energy infrastructure, infrastructure, seemingly without
[00:17:50] without either side's knowledge,
[00:17:52] knowledge, the Ukrainians have repeatedly repeatedly called for an energy ceasefire
[00:17:55] ceasefire but say the Russians have
[00:17:57] have refused to sign up. It was clear
[00:18:01] clear that Putin does not read Truth
[00:18:05] Truth Social. Speaking at the Warsaw Warsaw Security Forum, President
[00:18:08] President Zelensky said if Russia Russia continued to attack his power
[00:18:12] power plants, he would target their
[00:18:14] their refineries. Those refineries
[00:18:17] refineries that Putin is so shamelessly
[00:18:20] shamelessly trying to sell to the
[00:18:22] the world. The solution claiming
[00:18:26] claiming they can somehow make up
[00:18:28] up for the losses in global oil supplies
[00:18:31] supplies caused by the crisis in
[00:18:35] in the Strait of Hormuz. He mentions mentions the Strait of Hormuz and
[00:18:37] and in some ways this weekend's events events come back to the war with
[00:18:40] with Iran. The real reason that diesel
[00:18:42] diesel prices are so high. Donald
[00:18:45] Donald Trump is facing a vital set
[00:18:47] set of mid-term elections. He knows
[00:18:49] knows many voters hold him responsible responsible for rising oil prices.
[00:18:53] prices. He's hoping to deflect some
[00:18:55] some of that anger onto Ukraine.
[00:18:59] Ukraine. Back in Kharkiv and the the clear up is under way. This country
[00:19:02] country has faced many dark nights nights with an energy cease fire
[00:19:06] fire looking highly unlikely. There
[00:19:08] There may be many more to come. Joe
[00:19:11] Joe Inwood. BBC News. A BBC investigation
[00:19:16] investigation has revealed the world's world's biggest accountancy firm
[00:19:19] firm helped in falsifying documents documents in order to hide the former
[00:19:23] former Chelsea football Club owner owner Roman Abramovich is wealth.
[00:19:27] wealth. BBC Panorama's uncovered uncovered hundreds of documents that
[00:19:30] that were backdated by the Russian Russian billionaires advisers. Well,
[00:19:33] Well, many were drawn up with the the help of Deloitte. Roman Abramovich
[00:19:37] Abramovich denies any wrongdoing wrongdoing and Deloitte says it complies
[00:19:40] complies with applicable laws. Here's
[00:19:42] Here's Richard Bilton. Things have
[00:19:46] have changed for Roman Abramovich. Abramovich. He has been sanctioned
[00:19:50] sanctioned because of his links to to Vladimir Putin. He's been forced
[00:19:53] forced to sell his beloved Chelsea
[00:19:56] Chelsea and now revelations from from inside his financial empire.
[00:19:59] empire. If you want to understand understand Roman Abramovich, follow
[00:20:03] follow the money. This is Cyprus,
[00:20:06] Cyprus, home to a web of companies
[00:20:08] companies that were holding his wealth
[00:20:11] wealth working with the Bureau of
[00:20:13] of Investigative Journalism. Panorama Panorama has been investigating a
[00:20:17] a data leak which shows the lengths
[00:20:19] lengths some of his Cypriot advisers
[00:20:21] advisers went to hide his billions.
[00:20:24] billions. They falsified and backdated backdated hundreds of documents.
[00:20:28] documents. It is trying to cover
[00:20:30] cover up something. And what we appear
[00:20:32] appear to have here is a fiddle factory
[00:20:35] factory in a fiddle factory you fiddle
[00:20:37] fiddle the transactions, you backdate
[00:20:39] backdate them and that is what appears appears to have been happening here
[00:20:43] here regularly. In 2003, one of Roman
[00:20:46] Roman Abramovich's Cypriot companies
[00:20:49] companies called Kravin Investments, Investments, had almost $2 billion
[00:20:52] billion of his money in the bank. bank. Deloitte confirmed certain
[00:20:56] certain changes will have to be made
[00:20:59] made to the accounts. That's Deloitte
[00:21:01] Deloitte apparently advising on falsifying
[00:21:04] falsifying financial records by backdating
[00:21:06] backdating them. The evidence suggests
[00:21:08] suggests it allowed Mr Abramovich
[00:21:10] Abramovich to evade millions in tax.
[00:21:14] tax. It's a straightforward and blatant
[00:21:21] blatant move to protect from legitimate
[00:21:25] legitimate taxation assets which which should otherwise have been
[00:21:28] been subject to tax. So it's tax tax evasion. Yeah. Straightforward.
[00:21:31] Straightforward. And how serious serious is that? Well, again, if
[00:21:34] if it happened in England and it it was in the millions His Majesty's
[00:21:37] Majesty's Revenue and Customs would
[00:21:39] would be thinking about a prosecution.
[00:21:42] prosecution. Roman Abramovich's lawyers
[00:21:44] lawyers say he denies he evaded tax
[00:21:46] tax or concealed his fortune. They
[00:21:50] They say he was not involved in the
[00:21:51] the day to day operation of the companies,
[00:21:54] companies, and Panorama has provided provided no evidence that he knew
[00:21:57] knew of authorised or directed the
[00:22:00] the falsification or backdating of
[00:22:02] of any documents. Deloitte Cyprus
[00:22:04] Cyprus says it's unable to comment comment because the documents are
[00:22:08] are more than 20 years old and no
[00:22:10] no longer accessible. Richard Bilton, Bilton, BBC News. And just to say,
[00:22:14] say, if you're here in the UK, you
[00:22:15] you can see that programme Panorama,
[00:22:18] Panorama, Roman Abramovich how he he hid his fortune. It's on the iPlayer
[00:22:22] iPlayer right now or on BBC One tonight
[00:22:25] tonight at 8pm. The President of
[00:22:28] of Microsoft says that work on the the regulation of artificial intelligence
[00:22:32] intelligence should start immediately. immediately. He was speaking to his
[00:22:34] his to my colleague Will Bayne for for the BBC's Big Boss interview,
[00:22:38] interview, and he said that the current
[00:22:40] current system of self-regulation self-regulation simply is not working.
[00:22:44] working. When you look at AI agents
[00:22:47] agents that have escaped human control, control, when you look at models
[00:22:50] models that are so powerful that that they're putting the world's
[00:22:54] world's cybersecurity at risk, I I would say, look, the moment has
[00:22:57] has arrived. Let's speak calmly,
[00:23:00] calmly, maybe even softly but firmly, firmly, and start to bring people
[00:23:04] people together. I hope that's the the role we can play as a company.
[00:23:07] company. I hope that's the role the the UK can play as a country. So
[00:23:11] So there was this accord that came came out of the White House, wasn't wasn't it? You were notably not one
[00:23:14] one of the signatories as a company
[00:23:17] company of that, but that was all all about I'm quoting the President President again here, tremendous
[00:23:21] tremendous self-regulation. It sounds sounds like from what you're saying saying to me, without putting words words in your mouth, you don't think
[00:23:25] think self-regulation actually goes goes far enough. There should be
[00:23:27] be one body somewhere that people people are compelled. Forced what
[00:23:30] what is it legally forced to put put their models through to test?
[00:23:33] test? I would say two things. First, First, I applaud, I applaud, we applaud
[00:23:37] applaud as a company that statement statement and we're happy to sign
[00:23:40] sign it. It's a good step. It's a a necessary step. And fundamentally
[00:23:44] fundamentally what it does is it it says companies should have internal internal controls. It should have
[00:23:48] have its internal auditors looking looking at things like AI safety.
[00:23:51] safety. We've been doing that since since almost a decade ago, and there
[00:23:54] there ought to be some external evaluators
[00:23:56] evaluators as well, all to the good.
[00:24:00] good. It's necessary. I don't think
[00:24:01] think it's sufficient any longer
[00:24:05] longer because the challenge for for any self-regulatory regime is
[00:24:08] is if it's left to the industry alone,
[00:24:12] alone, frankly, the good companies companies will do what you want.
[00:24:15] want. It's the companies that are are not as responsible that you need
[00:24:18] need to worry about. We should always always worry that regulation can
[00:24:21] can become too heavy-handed. It can
[00:24:24] can slow innovation. And I think think President Trump is right to
[00:24:28] to remind us to think about even
[00:24:29] even worry about those concerns.
[00:24:32] concerns. But right now I'd argue
[00:24:34] argue that AI is moving forward faster
[00:24:37] faster than the speed of safety.
[00:24:39] safety. That's not good for the protection protection of the public. It's not
[00:24:42] not even good for the industry itself.
[00:24:45] itself. And usually what happens happens and you take I'll just say,
[00:24:48] say, our Congress in the United States, States, if a product moves faster
[00:24:51] faster than the speed of safety accidents
[00:24:55] accidents happen and then Congress Congress moves faster than the speed speed of thought. And then you just
[00:24:59] just end up with a dynamic where where everything comes to a halt.
[00:25:03] halt. I don't think that should be
[00:25:05] be our goal either. AI is an extraordinary
[00:25:07] extraordinary resource to grow the the economy, to solve societal problems,
[00:25:11] problems, or at least help. Let's
[00:25:13] Let's strike the right balance. That's
[00:25:15] That's the President of Microsoft
[00:25:17] Microsoft and now Pope Leo is expected
[00:25:20] expected to be admitted to hospital hospital late on Tuesday morning
[00:25:23] morning this week, as he prepares prepares for surgery to remove a
[00:25:27] a small nodule which is on one of
[00:25:29] of his lungs. The Vatican said that that the growth has been found on
[00:25:33] on a recent check up and has been
[00:25:35] been spotted early. There's been been no confirmation so far when
[00:25:39] when the surgery will take place.
[00:25:41] place. The 71-year-old Pope has no
[00:25:43] no previously known health problems.
[00:25:47] problems. These are live pictures. pictures. The Vatican there and the
[00:25:50] the Pope then heading to hospital
[00:25:53] hospital on Tuesday morning. Plenty Plenty more to come, so do stay tuned.
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