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[00:02:18] These are the latest headlines from BBC News. Ukraine's President
[00:02:22] President Volodymyr Zelensky says says Russia hit a power plant in in Ukraine immediately after Donald
[00:02:26] Donald Trump claimed an energy ceasefire ceasefire had been agreed. Saudi
[00:02:29] Saudi Arabia threatens what it calls calls a serious response to deadly
[00:02:33] deadly Houthi attacks on Riyadh's Riyadh's international airport. Flights
[00:02:36] Flights remain suspended. A major major cyber attack in France causes
[00:02:40] causes fridges and freezers at hundreds hundreds of supermarkets to fail.
[00:02:44] fail. Prime Minister Andy Burnham
[00:02:45] Burnham says he'll push for new post-Brexit post-Brexit deals and insists the
[00:02:49] the status quo is not good enough
[00:02:51] enough for Britain. A BBC investigation investigation reveals. The world's
[00:02:55] world's biggest accountancy firm
[00:03:00] Accountancy firm helped hide the wealth of the former Chelsea Chelsea football club owner Roman Roman Abramovich. As the mid-term
[00:03:04] mid-term elections loom in the United United States, we examine one of of the key political flashpoints
[00:03:07] flashpoints the data centres powering
[00:03:09] powering the AI boom. Well, let's
[00:03:18] let's look a little bit more deeply deeply now into those data centres,
[00:03:21] centres, which of course we know know are powering the AI boom. They
[00:03:25] They are becoming a real political political flashpoint in the US..
[00:03:29] US.. Well, a new proposal in Washington Washington would require them to
[00:03:31] to cover the costs of additional additional electricity infrastructure
[00:03:35] infrastructure that they create. create. President Trump champions champions their expansion, but Arizona's
[00:03:39] Arizona's Attorney General has called called for a pause on new data centre
[00:03:42] centre approvals. Our North America America correspondent Shaimaa Khalil
[00:03:45] Khalil has been hearing what it's it's like to live next to these giant
[00:03:48] giant facilities. Get off it. But
[00:03:52] But people over profit. A backlash backlash to the data centre boom
[00:03:55] boom is happening across America.
[00:04:01] America. Here in Arizona, protesters protesters are fighting against upcoming
[00:04:04] upcoming expansions. The point of of technology is to make things more
[00:04:07] more efficient, not to coat the earth earth in rapidly depreciating chips
[00:04:11] chips that heat, you know, neighbourhoods. neighbourhoods. We can't have another
[00:04:14] another data centre. We don't have have enough water as it is. This
[00:04:18] This is what America's AI ambitions
[00:04:20] ambitions look like. President Trump Trump says any slowdown means losing
[00:04:24] losing to China. At first glance, glance, this looks like an ordinary
[00:04:27] ordinary suburban neighbourhood. neighbourhood. That is, until huge
[00:04:30] huge data centres started sprawling sprawling around. And in a place
[00:04:34] place like Arizona, already struggling struggling with soaring temperatures
[00:04:38] temperatures and drought, people people here worry about what that
[00:04:40] that will mean more pressure on the the power grid, potentially higher
[00:04:43] higher bills, more demand on scarce
[00:04:46] scarce water. We love our house,
[00:04:49] house, but if we had known that was was going in, we never would have
[00:04:53] have bought here. It's enough to
[00:04:55] to make the difference between a
[00:04:59] a pleasant lifestyle and wondering
[00:05:02] wondering how much noise is going
[00:05:04] going to be coming up and what's
[00:05:07] what's next. This is essentially
[00:05:10] essentially a data logger. A noise
[00:05:11] noise isn't the only concern. Scientists
[00:05:14] Scientists say the data centres are
[00:05:16] are making scorching Arizona even
[00:05:18] even hotter. Driving around this this neighbourhood, what worries
[00:05:21] worries you about its proximity to
[00:05:23] to that data centre? The residents
[00:05:25] residents here are all going to feel
[00:05:28] feel a couple of degree Fahrenheit Fahrenheit warming on a typical day,
[00:05:32] day, and that will translate to higher higher energy costs for them running
[00:05:36] running air conditioners probably probably higher landscape water use
[00:05:40] use costs. But some residents see see these facilities as part of the
[00:05:44] the technology they already rely rely on. I don't think it's a problem problem and I'm kind of excited.
[00:05:48] excited. I just recently bought a a Tesla. With full self driving,
[00:05:51] driving, and I know that uses a lot lot of data and it's awesome. So
[00:05:55] So I don't have a problem with
[00:05:59] it. We need that water. And if it's it's not there, how do we farm? But But Nancy Caywood worries about what
[00:06:03] what gets left behind. Her family family has farmed this land since
[00:06:06] since 1930. Drought is making that that harder now, but she says she's
[00:06:10] she's refused offers to sell to data data centre developers. Knowing my
[00:06:13] my granddad worked so hard to for
[00:06:16] for this farm, just not having it
[00:06:18] it here would just be. It would be
[00:06:20] be hard. What do you say to President
[00:06:22] President Trump? Because he's a big
[00:06:24] big advocate of data centres. Can't Can't eat data centres can't eat
[00:06:28] eat them. They're not going to provide provide food for you. As voters head
[00:06:31] head to the polls in November, many many issues will weigh heavily on
[00:06:35] on their minds. Among them, the expansion
[00:06:38] expansion of AI, changing their lives
[00:06:39] lives and the landscape around them.
[00:06:42] them. Shaimaa Khalil, BBC News, Arizona.
[00:06:45] Arizona. Well, let's talk now to to Julie Bolthouse, director of land
[00:06:49] land use with Piedmont Environment Environment Environmental Council,
[00:06:52] Council, a non-profit land trust trust in the state of Virginia. Julie, Julie, thank you so much for joining
[00:06:56] joining us. I really appreciate it. it. I want to ask you first of all,
[00:06:58] all, you spend a lot of time, don't don't you, talking to residents living
[00:07:02] living alongside these huge facilities. facilities. So what are the concerns
[00:07:05] concerns that you're hearing most?
[00:07:08] most? Well, honestly, what I hear hear the most is about the noise
[00:07:12] noise for the residents that are are living right near the facilities.
[00:07:15] facilities. But those impacts far far go beyond just the data centre
[00:07:18] centre footprint. And so what I'm I'm hearing from the rest of Virginians
[00:07:21] Virginians is concerns about the the transmission lines that are going
[00:07:24] going through their property. We
[00:07:25] We have multiple massive 500 kV and
[00:07:31] and 765 kV transmission lines going going throughout the state. And then
[00:07:34] then the residents who are living living near the gas plants to serve
[00:07:37] serve power to these data centres
[00:07:39] centres can be far beyond the even
[00:07:42] even going beyond the state sometimes sometimes to serve the energy needs
[00:07:46] needs of this tech boom. A lot of of tech companies argue their data
[00:07:49] data centres provide jobs. They provide provide investment. Why do you think
[00:07:53] think then, that some communities communities are pushing back? Do
[00:07:54] Do they not see the benefits? No.
[00:07:57] No. I think everybody is aware of of the benefits. I think the concern
[00:08:01] concern is that the costs have started started to outweigh those benefits.
[00:08:05] benefits. Taking people's private private property for these transmission
[00:08:08] transmission lines, that can be completely completely devastating when you're you're talking about it being their
[00:08:12] their entire backyard. Or maybe they they have an agritourism business
[00:08:15] business Christmas tree farm, a winery
[00:08:18] winery and you just completely destroyed destroyed their view shed and you you really just completely destroyed
[00:08:22] destroyed their business by putting putting that, that transmission line
[00:08:25] line through their property. And And so I think those impacts that
[00:08:29] that we're feeling, and it's not not just the transmission lines,
[00:08:31] lines, it's our electric bills, it's it's the air quality impacts of these
[00:08:34] these new gas plants and the diesel
[00:08:37] diesel generators running more to
[00:08:39] to provide power during peak demand.
[00:08:43] demand. It's the everything else else that comes with this, the impacts
[00:08:47] impacts cumulative on water on just
[00:08:49] just industrialisation of communities. OK, so it's pretty clear
[00:08:52] clear what the impact is. And yet yet these data centres are necessary
[00:08:56] necessary because there is a push push towards AI that is inevitable.
[00:08:59] inevitable. They needed to run these these things. So what's the answer
[00:09:02] answer if it's not in my backyard, backyard, whose backyard is it going
[00:09:05] going to be in? I would actually actually challenge the premise of
[00:09:08] of that statement because we've got
[00:09:10] got so much data centre space approved
[00:09:12] approved here in Virginia, 280,000,000ft2
[00:09:16] 280,000,000ft2 in the pipeline. It's
[00:09:19] It's up to 53.8GW of demand at this this point that we're going to provide.
[00:09:23] provide. And a gigawatt is basically basically a gas plant that that's
[00:09:26] that's a nuclear reactor and that's
[00:09:29] that's in the pipeline that's already already approved and that we're trying
[00:09:32] trying to get energy for that's going going to take over a decade to provide
[00:09:35] provide that energy. So I would challenge challenge the premise that we need
[00:09:38] need to approve more to meet the the demand. I would say we've approved
[00:09:42] approved plenty. We've got to figure figure out how in the world we're we're going to power all of this
[00:09:45] this if we're actually going to build build any of it out, we don't need
[00:09:49] need to approve any more. OK. Julie Julie Bolthouse, it's been great great to get you on the show. Thank
[00:09:53] Thank you so much for joining us.
[00:09:54] us. Thank you. Well, US federal authorities
[00:09:57] authorities carried out an early early morning raid on the Washington Washington home of the Democratic
[00:10:01] Democratic lawmaker Ilhan Omar as as part of an investigation. The
[00:10:05] The congresswoman, who represents represents a district in Minnesota,
[00:10:08] Minnesota, has not publicly commented. commented. The investigation comes
[00:10:10] comes just three weeks before Ilhan
[00:10:12] Ilhan Omar seeks re-election in those those crucial mid-term elections,
[00:10:15] elections, raising concerns it might might be politically motivated. She
[00:10:19] She came to the US from Somalia as as a child, and there are reports
[00:10:23] reports the investigation concerns concerns immigration paperwork submitted
[00:10:26] submitted by her late father when
[00:10:28] when she was a child. Our North America America correspondent Ione Wells,
[00:10:31] Wells, is outside her home with the the very latest. Well, I counted
[00:10:35] counted at least a dozen federal federal agents from the Department
[00:10:38] Department of Homeland Security Investigations Investigations who were inside and
[00:10:41] and outside Ilhan Omar's house here here in Washington. It's not clear
[00:10:45] clear if anyone was actually home home when they arrived early this this morning or indeed, what exactly
[00:10:49] exactly they might have seized from from this home. I did see them carrying
[00:10:52] carrying what appeared to be cardboard cardboard boxes into a van before
[00:10:55] before they drove away. Now, sources
[00:10:58] sources familiar with the investigation investigation say that this was then
[00:11:02] then carrying out a criminal warrant warrant and that it relates to her
[00:11:05] her immigration paperwork. We know know that she first came to the US
[00:11:08] US as a refugee from Somalia with with her family in the 1990s before
[00:11:12] before becoming naturalised as a a US citizen in the year 2000. But
[00:11:15] But the authorities haven't really really provided any detail at all
[00:11:19] all about this investigation, what what evidence they may have. She
[00:11:22] She has in the last couple of moments moments responded to this, saying,
[00:11:25] saying, make no mistake, this is is an attempt to target political
[00:11:29] political enemies and weaponise federal federal law enforcement. She's also
[00:11:31] also gone on to say that for ten ten years, Donald Trump has targeted
[00:11:35] targeted her with what she describes describes as baseless lies and smear
[00:11:39] smear campaigns and that this is is the latest escalation in his campaign
[00:11:42] campaign of political intimidation intimidation that echoes really concerns
[00:11:45] concerns that have been raised by by other Democratic lawmakers as
[00:11:48] as well, who have called this an an abuse of power by federal authorities.
[00:11:52] authorities. There are concerns that that this has happened just three
[00:11:55] three weeks before crucial mid-term mid-term elections, where the Republicans
[00:11:58] Republicans will be defending thin thin majorities in both houses of
[00:12:01] of Congress. Donald Trump has repeatedly
[00:12:06] repeatedly targeted her, made personal personal insults towards the representative
[00:12:09] representative Ilhan Omar, but also also accused the Somali-American Somali-American community more widely,
[00:12:13] widely, particularly in Minnesota, Minnesota, where she's a representative representative of being a threat
[00:12:16] threat to the community, something something which she and other Democrats
[00:12:19] Democrats have long disputed. That That was Ione Wells reporting there.
[00:12:23] there. Hundreds of French supermarkets supermarkets have. Been hit by a
[00:12:26] a cyber attack that caused their their fridges and freezers to heat
[00:12:29] heat up, spoiling fresh and frozen frozen food estimated to be worth
[00:12:32] worth millions of euros. Hackers Hackers reportedly gained control control of the software that regulates
[00:12:36] regulates the temperatures of the the refrigeration units, forcing
[00:12:39] forcing some to warm to up to 50 50 degrees overnight. The prosecutor's
[00:12:42] prosecutor's office in Paris says says it's launched an investigation. investigation. Well, let's speak
[00:12:46] speak now to our correspondent in in Paris, Hugh Schofield. Hugh, good
[00:12:49] good to see you. What more do we
[00:12:51] we know about this? Well, we know
[00:12:54] know that there are, as you say,
[00:12:56] say, 4 or 400 or more of these supermarkets supermarkets from different chains,
[00:13:00] chains, well known chains to give
[00:13:02] give it perspective, that's out of of 15,000 supermarkets and hypermarkets
[00:13:06] hypermarkets around the country. country. So it's not as if there's there's a national emergency or anything
[00:13:09] anything like that. But still it's it's quite significant that all of
[00:13:12] of them simultaneously overnight overnight experienced the same problems, problems, which was, as you say,
[00:13:16] say, a heating up of their refrigeration
[00:13:19] refrigeration and freezer units for
[00:13:21] for no apparent reason until it emerged
[00:13:25] emerged that they were all linked linked up to the same software. This
[00:13:28] This software comes from a Danish Danish company called Danfoss sort
[00:13:31] sort of company no one's ever heard heard of, but which does all sorts
[00:13:34] sorts of incredibly important things
[00:13:36] things like running refrigeration
[00:13:38] refrigeration units in, in supermarkets.
[00:13:41] supermarkets. This software sort
[00:13:42] sort of centralised the control of
[00:13:45] of refrigeration units and, and allow allow them overnight to heat up slightly
[00:13:48] slightly in order to defrost. But
[00:13:50] But the parameters of this process
[00:13:53] process of heating up defrost slightly
[00:13:55] slightly were tampered with by the
[00:13:57] the hackers. So instead of just going going out from 18-18 to -10 or something
[00:14:01] something like that, they went up up all the way up to 30, 4050. And
[00:14:04] And as a result, and not temporarily
[00:14:06] temporarily but stuck on that. So So overnight when they came in this
[00:14:10] this morning, the managers found found water all over the floor. In
[00:14:13] In some cases fires or small fires
[00:14:15] fires under way. And the food all
[00:14:17] all wrecked. So it it's insignificant insignificant in a way in that not
[00:14:20] not many people are affected. Not Not that many, but significant as
[00:14:24] as a sign of things to come. How.
[00:14:27] How. If the cloud controls all this this kind of stuff in our life, this
[00:14:31] this sort of thing can happen. And
[00:14:33] And we're hearing about an investigation investigation being launched as well
[00:14:37] well by French prosecutors. Yeah.
[00:14:40] Yeah. Well, the prosecutors, they they want to know the extent of the
[00:14:43] the damage. They want to know where
[00:14:45] where the attack came from. Danfoss,
[00:14:48] Danfoss, the Danish company, said said that the units affected were
[00:14:52] were what they call legacy units. units. In other words, older units
[00:14:56] units which didn't have the wherewithal wherewithal to upgrade the software
[00:15:00] software or in the case of those those more recent models, which could
[00:15:02] could have upgraded they hadn't been been upgraded. They'd warned, they
[00:15:06] they said of this weakness and they they had a patch out for the software.
[00:15:10] software. But in some cases it hadn't hadn't been applied or in some of
[00:15:13] of the older models it couldn't be be applied. And it was those older
[00:15:16] older models that that were hit by by this. But that doesn't seem to to be any doubt that there was a
[00:15:20] a malicious attack by someone who
[00:15:23] who that was, we don't know, speculation speculation rife, of course, about about proxy wars from Russia and
[00:15:27] and so on. But there's no evidence evidence of that. There's no evidence
[00:15:29] evidence of anything. OK, Hugh, great
[00:15:31] great to see you. Thank you very
[00:15:34] very much. Well, coming up shortly
[00:15:36] shortly here on BBC News, The Security
[00:15:39] Security Brief goes live. Yes, the the popular show is going to be in
[00:15:43] in front of a live studio audience audience tonight here at the BBC,
[00:15:46] BBC, but you can watch it on BBC BBC News from wherever you are. You
[00:15:49] You can watch it on BBC iPlayer and
[00:15:52] and the BBC News YouTube channel channel today at 7:30 UK time. Christiane
[00:15:55] Christiane and Mikey will have live
[00:15:57] live analysis and a panel of guests. guests. First though, let's talk
[00:16:00] talk to you about what's coming up
[00:16:02] up on this show because hang around, around, you'll be bananas to miss
[00:16:05] miss it. Why orangutans are being being released into the wild. Let's
[00:16:09] Let's take a
[00:17:10] might. Putin go to test Nato? And And is Europe ready? The Security Security Brief live with an audience
[00:17:13] audience here on BBC News. Pope Leo
[00:17:23] Leo has cancelled all audiences until
[00:17:25] until the 20th of October because because of unexpected surgery, expected
[00:17:28] expected surgery? Excuse me. The The Pope is expected to be admitted
[00:17:32] admitted to Rome's Gemelli Hospital Hospital tomorrow morning as he prepares
[00:17:36] prepares for an operation to remove remove a small nodule on one of his
[00:17:39] his lungs. The Vatican says the growth growth had been found on a recent
[00:17:42] recent check-up and had been found
[00:17:43] found early. There's no confirmation confirmation when the surgery would
[00:17:47] would take place. Eight orangutans
[00:17:51] orangutans have been released back back into the wild after their habitat
[00:17:53] habitat was threatened by wildfires. wildfires. The critically endangered
[00:17:57] endangered apes were rescued from from forests in Borneo and taken
[00:18:01] taken into captivity over the summer. summer. Well, the Indonesian arm
[00:18:04] arm of the International Animal Rescue
[00:18:06] Rescue Organisation says it was necessary
[00:18:09] necessary to capture these orangutans orangutans because the fires were
[00:18:12] were particularly severe and the the habitats were under threat. While
[00:18:16] While Gavin Bruce is the CEO of International International Animal Rescue and joins
[00:18:19] joins us now. Gavin, just talk us us through what exactly has been
[00:18:22] been happening here to save or help
[00:18:25] help save these orangutans. Yeah.
[00:18:27] Yeah. Good evening. So as you say,
[00:18:30] say, the wildfires have been particularly particularly bad this year. Really
[00:18:34] Really driven by a combination of of climate change and the El Nino
[00:18:37] Nino effect. So the dry season, which
[00:18:39] which is normal, is much longer and
[00:18:42] and drier and hotter than usual. usual. And we've seen hundreds of
[00:18:46] of thousands of hectares of forest
[00:18:49] forest being lost, lost to these
[00:18:51] these fires. So that's resulted in
[00:18:55] in orangutans basically being displaced, displaced, losing their home and
[00:18:58] and ending up in quite dangerous dangerous situations. They're kind
[00:19:01] kind of disconnected from their forests
[00:19:04] forests and obviously then they're they're out trying to survive often
[00:19:07] often in places where they shouldn't
[00:19:09] shouldn't be. So in farmers land land plantations and so on where
[00:19:13] where they really can't get the food
[00:19:15] food they need need to survive. They're
[00:19:17] They're also suffering from smoke
[00:19:20] smoke inhalation. Sometimes they're they're burnt and we're finding them
[00:19:22] them quite emaciated. So they're they're in a pretty poor state. So
[00:19:26] So tell me what happens to them when
[00:19:29] when they're taken and how they then
[00:19:31] then release back. Yeah. So I mean, mean, in a normal situation, we'd
[00:19:35] we'd sort of be able to move them them to a safe area. But because
[00:19:38] because there's so many so much fire, fire, we're having to sort of bring
[00:19:42] bring them into our rescue centre. centre. And we've rescued nearly
[00:19:46] nearly 50 orangutans now in, in the the space of really a few weeks.
[00:19:49] weeks. So it's which is unheard of
[00:19:52] of and unprecedented. So the place place is filling up. So we've identified
[00:19:56] identified an area that's safe from from fire. It's an area we've worked
[00:19:59] worked in for some years now. We We know that. We know the habitat.
[00:20:03] habitat. We know that there's a fairly fairly low density of orangutans
[00:20:05] orangutans there. And we've taken
[00:20:08] taken these first eight. So that's
[00:20:10] that's three mums and babies and
[00:20:12] and two juveniles. So eight in total. total. It's about a ten hour journey
[00:20:15] journey from the centre and they've
[00:20:17] they've been moved to this forest
[00:20:20] forest that we've already got another another 15 that we've identified identified that we're going to have
[00:20:24] have to rescue in the coming in the the coming weeks. And it just sounds
[00:20:28] sounds to me like this is a terribly
[00:20:30] terribly traumatic thing for these
[00:20:33] these animals to suffer. Yeah. I
[00:20:36] I mean, you're right. I mean, they're they're going through multiple trauma
[00:20:39] trauma really. I mean, obviously obviously they're suffering, you
[00:20:43] you know, suffering with the fires, fires, suffering the physical and
[00:20:45] and mental sort of strain of that.
[00:20:48] that. I mean, it's never ideal to
[00:20:50] to have to take an animal from the the wild and sort of intervene like
[00:20:54] like this. I mean, it's always a a last resort, but I mean, in this
[00:20:58] this situation there really is no no choice. They would just perish
[00:21:00] perish and die. So OK, the team the
[00:21:04] the team are extremely experienced experienced in handling animals and
[00:21:08] and do everything they can to minimise minimise the stress. And they are
[00:21:11] are resilient. You know, when they they get put back out into wild,
[00:21:14] wild, we have a team monitoring them them and they do relocate successfully.
[00:21:17] successfully. Thank you so much, much, Gavin, for joining us and just just talking us through that. Great
[00:21:21] Great to talk to you. Thank you.
[00:21:22] you. My pleasure. Thank you. The
[00:21:25] The actor Robert Pattinson has been been in London at the premiere of
[00:21:28] of his new film, Primetime. The movie movie dramatises the production of
[00:21:32] of the American reality TV series
[00:21:34] series To Catch A Predator, which
[00:21:37] which aired between 2004 and 2007. 2007. Pattinson stars as its host
[00:21:40] host Chris Hansen, an NBC journalist journalist who worked with the vigilante
[00:21:42] vigilante group to expose child predators
[00:21:44] predators and sting operations. The The movie is getting rave reviews,
[00:21:48] reviews, with many critics saying saying he's going to get an Oscar
[00:21:50] Oscar nomination. Our culture correspondent correspondent Noor Nanji caught up
[00:21:53] up with Robert Pattinson on the red red carpet and asked him why he took
[00:21:56] took on the role of Chris Hansen.
[00:21:58] Hansen. I mean, it's both the most
[00:22:01] most terrifying thing that can happen happen to you, whether you're if if you're a parent or even if you're
[00:22:05] you're not. It's like the it's like
[00:22:08] like the most unimaginable sin possible.
[00:22:11] possible. And it's a kind of a it's
[00:22:14] it's like an unknown entity, which which is kind of it's been going
[00:22:18] going on since mediaeval times thinking
[00:22:19] thinking that there's a kind of almost
[00:22:22] almost it can come in this case through
[00:22:24] through the internet and attack vulnerable
[00:22:26] vulnerable children. And the show
[00:22:28] show was the kind of a microcosm microcosm of saying like, oh, we
[00:22:32] we can do something about it and and we can do something about it it really, really, really quickly.
[00:22:36] quickly. And in some ways that's
[00:22:38] that's correct. But it also makes makes for incredibly powerful TV.
[00:22:42] TV. And that's when it kind of gets gets a slightly dicey territory. territory. Do you think attitudes
[00:22:45] attitudes towards entertainment have
[00:22:47] have changed now? I think on mainstream
[00:22:52] mainstream TV, but then it's just just been replaced. I mean, that's
[00:22:54] that's kind of why I was interested interested in this show because I I could see the beginning of a new
[00:22:58] new wave of predator catching in in pretty much the same format that
[00:23:01] that it was in the early 2000, and and it was really taking off on TikTok.
[00:23:05] TikTok. And I was just interested
[00:23:06] interested as to why that was happening
[00:23:09] happening and whether it was a algorithmically
[00:23:12] algorithmically based interest or or what. I mean, what was causing
[00:23:15] causing it? And it got bigger and and bigger and bigger. And now it's
[00:23:19] it's one of the most. It's a massive massive thing on social media. So So it's just very interesting to
[00:23:23] to me. That's Robert Pattinson talking
[00:23:25] talking to us there. Well, from one one film that is forecast to be a
[00:23:29] a big hit to one that certainly wasn't wasn't if you go to the BBC's website,
[00:23:33] website, you can read all about how how Tom Cruise's latest film, digger,
[00:23:37] digger, is forecast to be one of
[00:23:40] of Hollywood's biggest flops. In
[00:23:42] In fact, its ticket sales apparently
[00:23:44] apparently dropped by 60% in the the movie's second weekend in cinemas.
[00:23:48] cinemas. Total box office takings
[00:23:50] takings so far of £26 million. Globally,
[00:23:52] Globally, it's estimated to have
[00:23:54] have cost its studio Warner Brothers,
[00:23:58] Brothers, around £211 million. To To make a market that is a huge loss
[00:24:02] loss for Tom Cruise's latest film.
[00:24:06] film. Now The Security Brief goes
[00:24:07] goes live tonight at 7:30 UK time
[00:24:10] time in front of a studio audience. audience. Well, that's in about just
[00:24:12] just over half an hour. It's on BBC
[00:24:14] BBC News iPlayer and YouTube. Christian Christian Fraser and Mikey Kay will
[00:24:18] will lead a special programme featuring featuring live analysis and a panel
[00:24:20] panel of guests examining the war war in Ukraine. Let's see what they
[00:24:24] they have in store for us. It's extremely extremely timely this because we've
[00:24:26] we've had all sorts of headlines headlines out of Ukraine and Russia
[00:24:29] Russia over the weekend and quite quite a many from Washington as well.
[00:24:32] well. So it's a great opportunity opportunity tonight to get into the
[00:24:36] the details behind the conflict. conflict. Put some context to it.
[00:24:38] it. We've got a live studio audience
[00:24:41] audience here in this iconic radio radio theatre at BBC headquarters,
[00:24:44] headquarters, a live studio audience, audience, around 400 people coming. coming. But as you say, a stellar
[00:24:48] stellar panel of guests, people who who are decision makers who've been
[00:24:52] been involved directly in supporting supporting Ukraine and those who
[00:24:55] who have sat at the heart of power power in Washington advising the
[00:24:59] the US President on his Russia policy. policy. And of course, sitting alongside
[00:25:02] alongside me. He needs no introduction. introduction. Our resident military
[00:25:06] military analyst, Mikey Kay. I'm I'm looking forward to this and it it does feel like a particularly
[00:25:10] particularly dangerous moment for for Ukraine. Yeah. I mean, you mentioned
[00:25:12] mentioned the headlines coming out out over the weekend. You know, some
[00:25:15] some people might describe those those as catastrophic. I certainly
[00:25:17] certainly would when it comes to to Ukraine. But we've also got the
[00:25:21] the Warsaw Security Forum that's that's been happening today. And
[00:25:24] And we've heard from that forum the
[00:25:27] the Supreme Allied commander Europe, Europe, who's been talking about
[00:25:30] about the theory of victory. We covered covered that with the deputy commander
[00:25:33] commander of Nato in an interview interview last week that that's now
[00:25:36] now on air. And, you know, there's there's never been a point in, I
[00:25:39] I think, a pivotal point in, in Ukraine
[00:25:43] Ukraine in terms of the posturing posturing from the White House in
[00:25:46] in terms of decisions that Europe Europe have to make, and we'll be
[00:25:48] be covering all of that. But we'll
[00:25:50] we'll also be going deep into the
[00:25:54] the technological advances that we've we've seen occurring in those four
[00:25:56] four years. That's Mikey and Christine Christine coming up in about half
[00:26:00] half an hour. I'm back at the top top of the hour with the latest headlines.
[00:26:03] headlines. Do stay with us. You're You're watching The World Today on
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