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[00:00:02] Now on BBC News. The latest business
[00:00:07] business news from across the globe.
[00:00:09] globe. Business Today. Affordability.
[00:00:21] Affordability. Election Wall Street Street readies for a big week as as America heads to the polls for
[00:00:25] for the midterms. What could it tell tell us about the state of the world's
[00:00:28] world's biggest economy? More people
[00:00:30] people are working than at any time
[00:00:33] time in the history of our country.
[00:00:38] country. Back online investors pull pull over $3 billion of assets out
[00:00:42] out of Binance as withdrawals resume. resume. After last week's massive
[00:00:45] massive hack. And room for judgement. judgement. The boss of signal tells
[00:00:48] tells the BBC. Artificial intelligence
[00:00:51] intelligence development needs to
[00:00:54] to slow down. Welcome you with Business Business Today in London with me
[00:00:57] me Sally Bundock. So we start in in the US where President Trump has
[00:01:01] has been making his last campaign campaign speeches ahead of Tuesday's
[00:01:05] Tuesday's midterm elections. The The President has been calling on
[00:01:07] on voters to consider his name to to be on the ballot during an extremely
[00:01:11] extremely busy month of rallies across
[00:01:13] across multiple US states. The vote,
[00:01:16] vote, which is being called the most
[00:01:18] most consequential US midterms in
[00:01:20] in years, could see the ruling Republican Republican Party lose its majority
[00:01:24] majority in the House of Representatives
[00:01:27] Representatives and potentially even even the Senate, according to some
[00:01:30] some polls, something that could could slow down President Trump's
[00:01:33] Trump's ability to enact his policies policies during the final two years
[00:01:37] years of his term. For financial financial markets, the results, which
[00:01:41] which include key governor races, races, could change the trajectory
[00:01:44] trajectory of closely watched policies policies from US public spending
[00:01:48] spending to the AI build out all all at a time when US government
[00:01:52] government borrowing costs courtesy courtesy of bond markets have been
[00:01:55] been soaring and US national debt
[00:01:57] debt is at an all-time high. One
[00:02:00] One major issue is the rising cost cost of living inflation, driven
[00:02:03] driven by surging oil prices largely
[00:02:05] largely due to the war in Iran. But But President Trump says the US has
[00:02:09] has never been in a better position.
[00:02:12] position. Under my leadership income income for hard working Americans
[00:02:15] Americans has soared to the highest
[00:02:18] highest level ever recorded. More More Americans are working today
[00:02:21] today than at any time in the history history of our country. The poverty
[00:02:25] poverty rate has reached its best
[00:02:27] best and lowest level in American
[00:02:29] American history with African American American poverty, Hispanic American
[00:02:33] American poverty, Asian American American poverty, Native American
[00:02:36] American poverty rates at their best
[00:02:38] best and lowest levels ever recorded.
[00:02:42] recorded. And exports have soared
[00:02:44] soared to the highest level in American
[00:02:47] American history. Well, Janet Mui Mui is head of market analysis at
[00:02:51] at RBC Brewin Dolphin and tells us
[00:02:52] us why investors are staying on the
[00:02:56] the sidelines ahead of tomorrow's tomorrow's election. The thing is,
[00:03:00] is, according to the polls and according according to the betting markets,
[00:03:03] markets, the Democrats are likely
[00:03:06] likely to take up both sides of the
[00:03:08] the Congress. So I think this is is a huge uncertainty that a lot
[00:03:12] lot of investors would actually like
[00:03:14] like to just step aside for now because
[00:03:18] because if we have a Democratic win
[00:03:19] win in the Congress, it means a lot
[00:03:22] lot of the ambitious spending plans
[00:03:25] plans could be on hold and debated debated and under more scrutiny.
[00:03:29] scrutiny. And I think for investors, investors, a major risk is really
[00:03:32] really about the build-up of the the AI centre. If the Democrats take
[00:03:35] take control of the Congress, that that could potentially slow down
[00:03:38] down because it is facing increasing increasing scrutiny. So I guess,
[00:03:41] guess, you know, it is a I think
[00:03:44] think the House is very likely to to be gone. But in terms of the Senate
[00:03:48] Senate is really a very close call.
[00:03:51] call. So I think people are just just stepping aside for now and see
[00:03:54] see what the results are. Yeah, absolutely. absolutely. And as you say, that's
[00:03:58] that's what the polls predict. But But as we know, as history tells
[00:04:02] tells us, polls often do get it wrong.
[00:04:03] wrong. So we'll all be watching very
[00:04:06] very closely to see what the outcome
[00:04:07] outcome is. If the outcome is is
[00:04:10] is worst case scenario for President President Trump and the Republicans, Republicans, what will the reaction
[00:04:14] reaction on markets be like? Do you
[00:04:16] you think? I think the potential
[00:04:20] potential reaction could be initially initially negative. I think because
[00:04:22] because as I mentioned, I think the
[00:04:26] the AI build out could be more at
[00:04:28] at risk under a Democratic control control of the Congress. And as we
[00:04:31] we know, the market is all about
[00:04:33] about the AI trade. So if that is
[00:04:36] is being slowed down just a bit,
[00:04:38] bit, I think markets would be very very worried. Particularly we already
[00:04:42] already have seen quite a lot of
[00:04:44] of wobble in the AI trade. The most most recently. And of course I think
[00:04:48] think if you're talking about fiscal fiscal spending that is very likely
[00:04:52] likely to be curtailed. The stimulus
[00:04:53] stimulus checks may not happen. So
[00:04:56] So I think that that is a concern. concern. And of course I think a
[00:05:00] a more immediate worry is that right
[00:05:02] right after the midterms we could
[00:05:04] could see strikes at Iran again because
[00:05:08] because it has been stopped because because President Trump said because
[00:05:10] because of the midterms. But it could
[00:05:13] could escalate afterwards. So again, again, that puts more immediate risk
[00:05:17] risk to market in terms of the oil oil prices. Absolutely. And I'm going
[00:05:20] going to dig a little bit deeper deeper into that in a moment with with my next guest, Janet. But let's
[00:05:24] let's just get your take on the AI AI trade at the moment because we
[00:05:27] we saw a huge sell off at the end end of last week on Wall Street.
[00:05:30] Street. The Nasdaq at one point falling
[00:05:33] falling into correction territory.
[00:05:34] territory. We had so many of the
[00:05:37] the major high hyperscalers revealing revealing their earnings and it detailed
[00:05:41] detailed enormous sums that they're
[00:05:43] they're spending and raising to finance
[00:05:46] finance AI. So will we see that concern
[00:05:49] concern continue this week? Do you
[00:05:51] you think? I think absolutely I think
[00:05:55] think markets are in a more scrutinising
[00:05:57] scrutinising stage. Unfortunately.
[00:05:59] Unfortunately. The AI build out continues, continues, but it is at risk if the
[00:06:03] the Democratic control of the Congress.
[00:06:05] Congress. And the thing is, we are
[00:06:07] are seeing increasing debt financing
[00:06:11] financing and a lot of these hyperscalers hyperscalers are just simply losing
[00:06:15] losing their free cash flow for these these build out. We're seeing increasing
[00:06:17] increasing evidence of that. So that that scrutiny is not going to stop.
[00:06:20] stop. OK. And yeah, so so this is
[00:06:22] is going to continue for a
[00:06:27] while. Janet Mui there with her take take on markets and what to watch watch this week. Well let's now talk
[00:06:30] talk about the Middle East. Iranian Iranian negotiators were in Qatar
[00:06:33] Qatar on Sunday for the third consecutive consecutive day of talks to end the
[00:06:37] the US-Iran war. The Iranian foreign
[00:06:39] foreign minister said Tehran is prepared
[00:06:41] prepared for both defence and diplomacy
[00:06:44] diplomacy amid growing concern that that American and Israeli attacks
[00:06:47] attacks could resume after the US US midterm elections. Iranian state
[00:06:51] state TV has reported on Sunday that
[00:06:53] that two oil tankers exploded after
[00:06:56] after striking mines were travelling
[00:06:59] travelling through an unauthorised unauthorised route in the Strait
[00:07:01] Strait of Hormuz, citing the Islamic Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps
[00:07:05] Corps Navy. Now we can't verify when
[00:07:09] when these pictures were taken at at this point, but it just highlights
[00:07:13] highlights the issues at play here.
[00:07:15] here. International benchmark Brent
[00:07:17] Brent crude oil prices remain elevated
[00:07:20] elevated with futures trading at
[00:07:24] at around $110 per barrel. Well, Well, Kate Dorian is a fellow at
[00:07:27] at the Energy Institute in the UK
[00:07:29] UK and told me more about the current
[00:07:32] current status of the conflict. The The Israeli elections were inconclusive,
[00:07:36] inconclusive, so Mr Netanyahu is
[00:07:38] is is going to remain as caretaker. caretaker. So and we know what his
[00:07:41] his position is. He wants you know,
[00:07:44] know, he wants Iran. He wants more
[00:07:48] more attacks against Iran. He wants wants regime change. But at the same
[00:07:51] same time, we're seeing some diplomatic diplomatic moves. Qatar obviously
[00:07:55] obviously is one of those Gulf countries countries that was really, really
[00:07:57] really hit hard by the closure of of the Strait of Hormuz. And, you
[00:08:01] you know, because they don't have
[00:08:02] have the option to move their tankers
[00:08:06] tankers and export LNG, which is is why we've seen such very, very
[00:08:09] very high prices for gas in Europe
[00:08:12] Europe in recent weeks. They've come
[00:08:14] come off a little bit, but it's you
[00:08:17] you know, the market is also bracing bracing for the possibility that
[00:08:21] that after the midterm elections elections in the US, there may be
[00:08:23] be renewed attacks against Iran. Iran. Iran has said that there would
[00:08:27] would be no geographic limits to
[00:08:29] to its response. So, you know, we're we're still in a state of no war,
[00:08:33] war, no peace, diplomatic efforts efforts ongoing. But the US doesn't
[00:08:37] doesn't seem to be involved. It's It's between Qatar and Iran. So we
[00:08:41] we just have to wait and see. But But prices have come off on, on expectations
[00:08:45] expectations that there may be a a diplomatic solution. Yeah, on the
[00:08:48] the hope so a bit more positive than than negative today. But in the meantime,
[00:08:52] meantime, in Saudi Arabia, the attacks
[00:08:53] attacks continues. The Iran backed
[00:08:56] backed Houthis in Yemen continue
[00:08:59] continue to target Saudi Arabia and and that is ongoing, isn't it? Despite
[00:09:02] Despite all the efforts to end that
[00:09:04] that war that we heard from the internationally internationally backed government
[00:09:08] government of Yemen? Well, exactly. exactly. Yes. You've seen attacks.
[00:09:11] attacks. I mean, the Red Sea, the
[00:09:14] the routes out of the Red Sea in in the south, the Bab el Mandeb is
[00:09:18] is still under the control of the the Houthis. So Saudi Arabia is shipping
[00:09:22] shipping more crude through the Strait Strait of Hormuz, which is quite
[00:09:24] quite risky because you have to and and it's also a costly exercise because
[00:09:28] because you need two tankers to conduct
[00:09:30] conduct these ship to ship transfers
[00:09:34] transfers and then through Bab el el Mandeb. If you can't go through through the south, you have to go
[00:09:38] go through the north, through the the Suez Canal, which means going going around the Horn of Africa because
[00:09:42] because the main market is in Asia. Asia. So that ties up your tankers,
[00:09:46] tankers, which is why we're seeing seeing very high freight rates. We're
[00:09:48] We're seeing high insurance rates rates and we're seeing a shortage
[00:09:52] shortage of refined fuels like diesel,
[00:09:55] diesel, which is much higher than
[00:09:58] than oil than crude oil. So that's that's why, you know, if you look
[00:10:01] look at just the price of oil futures, futures, it doesn't really reflect
[00:10:04] reflect the realities of the market.
[00:10:07] market. And just quickly, Kate, if
[00:10:09] if President Trump was to lose majorities majorities in both the House of Representatives
[00:10:13] Representatives and the Senate, what
[00:10:16] what do you think might be his next
[00:10:18] next move when it comes to this
[00:10:23] war? Well, I don't think he's really really consulted the House. You know,
[00:10:26] know, he's he I don't he didn't go
[00:10:29] go to, to the house to seek permission
[00:10:32] permission for the war. I don't think think it's going to change anything.
[00:10:34] anything. I think he will challenge challenge any outcome that he doesn't
[00:10:38] doesn't like as he's done in the the past. And I don't think it's
[00:10:41] it's really going to have an impact
[00:10:42] impact on. On his foreign policy.
[00:10:46] policy. So I don't expect that it'll
[00:10:47] it'll be all right. Kate Dorian with
[00:10:51] with her take on things from Energy Energy Institute in the UK. Let's
[00:10:54] Let's bring you some other business business stories. Ryanair says it's
[00:10:57] it's reviewing all its costs due due to soaring fuel prices and may
[00:11:00] may ask staff to take temporary pay pay freezes. Europe's biggest airline
[00:11:04] airline by passenger numbers is also also warning short haul airfares
[00:11:07] airfares will rise next year, but but that won't be enough to offset
[00:11:10] offset a jump in its fuel bill of
[00:11:14] of some $2.2 billion for the current current financial year. Ryanair says
[00:11:17] says profits for the three months
[00:11:18] months to September were down 6%.
[00:11:21] 6%. The BBC understands that Virgin Virgin Media O2 is to announce plans
[00:11:25] plans later this week for thousands thousands of job cuts. The exact
[00:11:28] exact details are yet to be finalised, finalised, but the firm, which employs
[00:11:31] employs 16,000 people, is also expected expected to halt investment in its
[00:11:35] its fibre network as investors raise
[00:11:37] raise concerns about its debt of
[00:11:40] of more than £20 billion and coming
[00:11:43] coming up calling for the an AI slowdown,
[00:11:45] slowdown, the BBC speaks to the boss
[00:11:48] boss of Signal around the world
[00:12:51] major source of solutions. So how how can we build more climate friendly
[00:12:53] friendly cities? That's coming up
[00:12:57] up on BBC News.
[00:13:03] . You're with BBC News. Investors have withdrawn over $3
[00:13:07] $3 billion worth of assets from Binance
[00:13:09] Binance after the world's largest largest cryptocurrency exchange came
[00:13:12] came back online on Sunday following
[00:13:14] following a huge hack. Binance says says withdrawals were stabilising
[00:13:18] stabilising after an initial spike spike and the deposit volumes remained
[00:13:22] remained substantial. The exchange
[00:13:24] exchange says it has covered around
[00:13:28] around 95% of the $6.3 billion taken
[00:13:30] taken in what is suspected to be
[00:13:32] be crypto's biggest hack on record.
[00:13:34] record. Last week. Over the weekend, weekend, the FBI said that North
[00:13:38] North Korea was responsible for the the attack. Well, Alice Taylor is
[00:13:42] is a digital forensics researcher researcher at Oxford Information
[00:13:45] Information Labs and says this is is a key moment for confidence in
[00:13:48] in crypto. There is this huge impact
[00:13:52] impact of just sort of like reputational
[00:13:55] reputational damage really of people
[00:13:58] people losing confidence and obviously obviously with a cryptocurrency exchange,
[00:14:01] exchange, it's so obvious to see,
[00:14:03] see, you know, the impact of that
[00:14:05] that kind of lack of confidence.
[00:14:09] confidence. And a lot of people are
[00:14:11] are sort of questioning, you know, know, like is the FBI have now linked
[00:14:14] linked the cyber attack to North North Korea. So it is definitive definitive and they've said that
[00:14:18] that very clearly. It's not just just sort of knowledge from private
[00:14:21] private research companies. They're They're sort of saying is cryptocurrency
[00:14:24] cryptocurrency now just kind of like
[00:14:26] like a funnel for North Korean state
[00:14:29] state sanctioned warfare? I think
[00:14:32] think this is definitely a moment moment of reflection for cryptocurrency
[00:14:36] cryptocurrency generally. Well, let's
[00:14:38] let's now talk about AI safety. Meredith
[00:14:41] Meredith Whittaker is the boss of of the Signal Foundation, which runs
[00:14:45] runs the encrypted messaging app app signal. She's a former AI researcher
[00:14:48] researcher at Google and is calling calling for AI development to be
[00:14:52] be slowed down. She spoke to our
[00:14:56] our reporter Megha Mohan. The risk
[00:14:58] risk is very real, but it's not the
[00:15:01] the shiny ghost stories that the
[00:15:03] the wild eyed boys are telling us
[00:15:06] us right now. AI doom is dominating
[00:15:08] dominating the headlines, but the the President of signal, the encrypted
[00:15:13] encrypted messaging app and one of of the most influential women in
[00:15:16] in the space, is telling us to slow
[00:15:19] slow down. You would have to draw
[00:15:21] draw back on a lot of this. You would
[00:15:23] would have to put measures in place
[00:15:26] place that slow things down, that
[00:15:27] that leave room for judgement, that
[00:15:30] that allow institutions and experts experts to say AI is not appropriate
[00:15:33] appropriate here. We should be insisting
[00:15:37] insisting on robust engineering, engineering, robust technical practices,
[00:15:40] practices, all of which slow down down markets, all of which might
[00:15:44] might affect valuations. Meredith
[00:15:47] Meredith Whittaker leads signal a a messaging app built around privacy
[00:15:51] privacy as a core tenet with an estimated
[00:15:55] estimated 40 to 70 million users. users. When you and I are talking
[00:15:59] talking on signal only, you and I
[00:16:01] I can read that messages. We live
[00:16:03] live in a world where almost everything
[00:16:06] everything we do, our connections, connections, our communities, our
[00:16:10] our locations, our preferences, our
[00:16:13] our communications are surveilled surveilled and logged by a handful
[00:16:16] handful of companies that use them them to sell ads that can give them
[00:16:19] them to governments that are picked
[00:16:20] picked up by data brokers, sold to
[00:16:24] to ideological fringe groups. Around
[00:16:28] Around 2017. Whitaker gained public
[00:16:31] public recognition as a co-organiser
[00:16:32] co-organiser of the Google walkout. walkout. Hey hey
[00:16:37] Cover ups have got to go. Which
[00:16:38] saw more than 20,000 employees and
[00:16:42] and contractors take part. A former
[00:16:45] former AI researcher at Google, she she had raised concerns about the
[00:16:49] the ethical risks of AI systems,
[00:16:52] systems, including their potential potential use in military applications.
[00:16:56] applications. I was alarmed by this.
[00:16:58] this. This is going to supercharge supercharge mistakes. This is going
[00:17:02] going to launder bad intelligence intelligence and bad data. This is
[00:17:05] is going to paint a veneer of objectivity
[00:17:08] objectivity and intelligence on systems systems that are basically just sort
[00:17:11] sort of, you know, drawing on the the same bad Intel that we've always
[00:17:14] always had access to. Whitaker and
[00:17:17] and apps such as signal face criticism
[00:17:19] criticism of their own. Not everyone
[00:17:23] everyone supports absolute privacy. privacy. This year, the UK government
[00:17:26] government said encrypted messaging messaging apps could face restrictions
[00:17:30] restrictions as part of efforts to
[00:17:32] to tackle child abuse and the sharing
[00:17:34] sharing of explicit imagery. Private
[00:17:37] Private communication. Is a fundamental
[00:17:40] fundamental human right for a reason reason and you undermine end to end
[00:17:43] end encryption in one point and you
[00:17:45] you poisoned it for everyone. It
[00:17:49] It no longer protects anyone. If
[00:17:51] If you and I talk. In five years'
[00:17:54] years' time what is the what kind kind of conversation do you hope
[00:17:58] hope that we'll be having. Right Right now? Our visions are being
[00:18:01] being written by people whose motivations motivations are often aligned with
[00:18:04] with the profit and growth of a very
[00:18:06] very narrow industry. Products and
[00:18:10] and technologies should not be dominating dominating the vision for what it
[00:18:13] it looks like to move forward as
[00:18:16] as a human population. Meredith Whittaker.
[00:18:19] Whittaker. They're the boss of the
[00:18:22] the Signal Foundation now to something something that more and more of us
[00:18:26] us may be feeling or experiencing experiencing in the workplace amid
[00:18:29] amid our fast changing technological technological world. And of course,
[00:18:32] course, the challenges that can bring.
[00:18:34] bring. And I'm talking about stress
[00:18:37] stress left unaddressed, stress can can affect your health wellbeing.
[00:18:41] wellbeing. It increases sickness sickness and it can impact absence
[00:18:44] absence at work and productivity. productivity. Well, Nick Propper
[00:18:48] Propper is a human performance expert expert who trains people who work
[00:18:50] work in some of the most high pressure pressure environments, including
[00:18:53] including the US Air Force or the the sales floors at Goldman Sachs.
[00:18:57] Sachs. He took me through some of of the advice he gives to help. Stress
[00:19:01] Stress in and of itself actually actually is is not the issue. And
[00:19:04] And the avoidance of stress certainly certainly isn't the answer. But stress
[00:19:08] stress in the absence of recovery recovery does become problematic.
[00:19:11] problematic. So the main message message is we need the stress that
[00:19:15] that actually creates the opportunity opportunity to optimise performance. performance. The opportunity for
[00:19:19] for us to grow as humans. But we
[00:19:21] we also have to pay attention to to where the growth happens and the
[00:19:25] the growth happens in the recovery recovery phase. And that's the part
[00:19:29] part that's missing for most people people in business. And candidly,
[00:19:32] candidly, most people out there trying trying to do hard things, whatever
[00:19:35] whatever the endeavour. Is it true
[00:19:37] true to say, Nick, that currently
[00:19:39] currently stress levels are higher
[00:19:42] higher in any in any work environment, environment, partly because of just
[00:19:45] just what's going on in the world? world? Something that I'm talking
[00:19:48] talking about in my workplace all
[00:19:50] all the time. The concern about what's
[00:19:52] what's happening in, in the Middle Middle East, in, in, in countries
[00:19:56] countries across Europe. And we saw saw very a lot of stress across Europe
[00:19:59] Europe over the weekend where we we saw riots in Germany and France
[00:20:03] France and protests and all
[00:20:08] sorts. Yeah. And I think this is is really an issue of what we would would call locus of control when
[00:20:11] when we talk about these stressors. stressors. So that's an important
[00:20:14] important word. The stressor is the
[00:20:17] the thing that's delivering the stress stress to the individual. We often
[00:20:20] often talk about them in very big big kind of macro descriptions like
[00:20:23] like what's happening in the Middle Middle East, what's happening in
[00:20:26] in my company, the brain fundamentally fundamentally doesn't like that because
[00:20:29] because it feels like it has no control.
[00:20:32] control. We're just reacting to whatever whatever this thing is going to do do to us. So so for example, what
[00:20:36] what we need to do in those situations situations is start to pay attention
[00:20:40] attention to what we can control.
[00:20:42] control. And that shifts the locus locus from external to internal.
[00:20:45] internal. Now I'm going to decide
[00:20:47] decide how I interact with this situation, situation, however big, however complex,
[00:20:50] complex, I'm going to do it on my
[00:20:53] my terms and that calms the psychology psychology down. And that then in
[00:20:57] in turn calms off physiology down, down, which is very important in
[00:20:59] in our ability to sustain our performance
[00:21:02] performance without getting exhausted, exhausted, overwhelmed or burning
[00:21:05] burning out. Nick Propper there with
[00:21:08] with his take on stress in the workplace. workplace. Plenty more on our website.
[00:21:11] website. Do take a look. MUSIC
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[00:21:38] Meghan Owen. Seven-month-old Maeve
[00:21:42] Maeve doesn't know it yet, but the
[00:21:43] the way she came into the world was
[00:21:46] was rather unusual. When her mum mum Leah went into labour, she'd
[00:21:49] she'd spent months planning for every
[00:21:51] every possibility. I would have loved
[00:21:53] loved a waterbirth. However, the the other things that I didn't really
[00:21:56] really want is that an assisted birth birth or an emergency C-section. C-section. It was a really long hard
[00:22:00] hard labour and then by the time
[00:22:01] time we got to the pushing, it felt
[00:22:05] felt like there was not much happening happening in that I was trying my my best. Nothing was really happening.
[00:22:09] happening. I could feel her inch inch down slightly, but it just wasn't
[00:22:12] wasn't going where we needed it to
[00:22:13] to go. Leah isn't alone. Around 1
[00:22:17] 1 in 8 births in the UK require some
[00:22:19] some form of assistance during delivery.
[00:22:22] delivery. Doctors at the Royal London London Hospital recommended something
[00:22:25] something Leah had never even heard
[00:22:27] heard of. She's got a contraction.
[00:22:30] contraction. I just gently pull. pull. The device is called the Odon
[00:22:34] Odon Assist. It's designed for assisted
[00:22:36] assisted vaginal births. When labour labour has stalled and a baby needs
[00:22:40] needs help to be delivered rather rather than using metal forceps or
[00:22:44] or suction, it uses a soft inflatable inflatable cuff designed to help
[00:22:48] help guide the baby through the birth
[00:22:49] birth canal. So you can see from
[00:22:52] from here we've gone from a tiny tiny little viewing window through
[00:22:56] through to a larger viewing window.
[00:22:58] window. Before it was ever used on
[00:23:00] on a patient. Researchers spent years years testing it using specially
[00:23:04] specially designed mannequins fitted
[00:23:05] fitted with pressure sensors. From
[00:23:09] From 2015 to 2018 we did over 2800
[00:23:13] 2800 simulations. Those simulations simulations suggested the device
[00:23:16] device spread pressure more evenly
[00:23:19] evenly across a baby's head. Traditional Traditional forceps and vacuum cups
[00:23:22] cups can sometimes leave babies bruised bruised and can also cause injury
[00:23:26] injury to mothers. If you look at at forceps and forceps definitely definitely have their place and can
[00:23:30] can be very life saving, but they they really haven't changed much
[00:23:33] much in the last 400 years. There There is very few things in medicine
[00:23:37] medicine that if we go back to 400 400 years in any other aspect of
[00:23:40] of medicine, that is almost exactly exactly the same. We're going to
[00:23:44] to do some training on instrumental instrumental birth. After years of
[00:23:48] of development and testing. The next next challenge is getting the device
[00:23:51] device into hospitals. I think we
[00:23:52] we can use a device called an Ode
[00:23:56] Ode on assist. It's a plastic device device with an inflatable cuff that
[00:23:59] that sits around the baby's head, head, and then we use it to guide
[00:24:02] guide the baby out. It doesn't suffocate suffocate my baby. So it doesn't
[00:24:06] doesn't suffocate your baby. It's
[00:24:07] It's a very safe procedure, but as as with any procedure, there are
[00:24:11] are some risks involved. We feel feel very responsible for the fact
[00:24:15] fact that we are using it, and we we know that we're ahead of the curve
[00:24:18] curve in using it. And we know that that we have an additional level level of responsibility to make sure
[00:24:21] sure that what we're doing is is is safe. And if at any point we were
[00:24:24] were there was something pointing pointing out that that was not the the case, then we would obviously
[00:24:28] obviously have to reconsider. But But because we are being very data
[00:24:31] data driven in our approach, we know know that we're still on the right right track, which is great. Yeah.
[00:24:34] Yeah. We have fed back through groups
[00:24:37] groups in the UK, groups across Europe Europe as to best techniques and
[00:24:40] and how to develop practice, and and we're constantly feeding back
[00:24:43] back so that we can learn and teach teach the trainees that are coming
[00:24:45] coming through. It's still early
[00:24:48] early days, but after decades with with little change in assisted childbirth,
[00:24:52] childbirth, doctors hope it could could offer women another option
[00:24:55] option when labour doesn't go to to plan. We know that it's safe.
[00:24:58] safe. We know that it's been approved approved and we wanted to bring it
[00:25:01] it in and we want to now support support bringing it in by being a
[00:25:04] a flagship hospital. The fact that that Maeve came out unscathed completely
[00:25:08] completely is a huge plus and then then had no kind of like feeding feeding issues or anything like that
[00:25:12] that that we had to take care of
[00:25:14] of was a huge plus to us. And obviously obviously at that point, that's all
[00:25:17] all you want. Is your baby safe in in your arms? And it was relatively
[00:25:21] relatively quick. It was painless painless for her. It was controlled
[00:25:24] controlled for me and the recovery recovery was great.
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