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[00:00:10] It's 6pm in London. This is the World
[00:00:16] World Today with Maryam Moshiri. Moshiri. On the eve of Americas crucial
[00:00:19] crucial midterm elections, millions millions prepare to vote. Can Donald Donald Trump and the Republicans
[00:00:23] Republicans keep control of the US US Congress? We want them out. We
[00:00:27] We want them out. And I am excited excited that if we can flip Kansas,
[00:00:31] Kansas, we give hope to the rest rest of the country. He says what
[00:00:33] what he's going to do and just I
[00:00:35] I have a lot of faith in the man.
[00:00:37] man. We'll get the latest from our our correspondents on the ground
[00:00:40] ground in some of the key battleground battleground states, and we'll also
[00:00:44] also speak to a spokesperson for for the former Republican House speaker
[00:00:47] speaker Kevin McCarthy. In other other news, Ukraine's president says
[00:00:50] says Russian forces have bombed a a village in the southeastern Zaporizhzhia
[00:00:53] Zaporizhzhia region, killing 18 and
[00:00:55] and injuring five supermarkets in in seven European countries report
[00:00:59] report problems with their refrigeration refrigeration systems in a suspected
[00:01:02] suspected cyber attack. The King King will address Commonwealth leaders
[00:01:05] leaders about the lasting pain of of the transatlantic slave trade
[00:01:08] trade during the final leg of his
[00:01:10] his Caribbean tour.
[00:01:23] Hello and welcome to The World
[00:01:26] Today on BBC News. Well, the US is is on the eve of crucial midterm
[00:01:29] midterm elections. Millions are preparing preparing to vote and the outcome
[00:01:33] outcome will decide who controls controls the two chambers of Congress.
[00:01:36] Congress. We'll take a look at these.
[00:01:38] these. These are pictures. Live pictures pictures from Washington and Capitol
[00:01:42] Capitol Hill. Democrats are hoping hoping to take control of the House
[00:01:45] House of Representatives. They also also have their sights on flipping
[00:01:48] flipping the Senate. That has huge huge implications when it comes to
[00:01:52] to what Donald Trump could be able
[00:01:54] able to do in his last two years
[00:01:56] years domestically and on foreign foreign policy. We have correspondents
[00:01:59] correspondents in most of the key
[00:02:01] key battleground states Ohio, Iowa,
[00:02:05] Iowa, Kansas, Texas and Alaska. Remarkably, Remarkably, traditional Republican
[00:02:08] Republican states like Texas are are in play for Democrats. Kansas,
[00:02:12] Kansas, which could also switch, switch, hasn't sent a Democrat to
[00:02:15] to the Senate since 1932. Well, national
[00:02:17] national polling for Donald Trump Trump has been dire. The war with
[00:02:20] with Iran, the cost of living corruption
[00:02:23] corruption all making this a tough tough set of elections for Republican
[00:02:27] Republican candidates. Well, the the midterms held in the middle of
[00:02:30] of each four year presidential term term by definition, don't involve
[00:02:33] involve the President himself. But
[00:02:34] But if you have any doubt about the
[00:02:38] the importance of these elections, elections, consider these statistics.
[00:02:41] statistics. More than 100 million million people are likely to vote vote in person tomorrow. If the turnout
[00:02:45] turnout is anything like the previous
[00:02:47] previous midterm we saw back in 2022.
[00:02:50] 2022. And as of October the 12th,
[00:02:52] 12th, a record $3.8 billion have
[00:02:54] have been spent on political advertisements advertisements aired. Top spending
[00:02:58] spending is in battleground US Senate
[00:03:00] Senate races in Texas, Ohio and Michigan, Michigan, according to AdImpact,
[00:03:04] AdImpact, which tracks the activities.
[00:03:06] activities. Elon Musk alone has spent
[00:03:11] spent around $366 million to support support Republicans, according to
[00:03:15] to campaign finance records. Well, Well, let's start now with this special
[00:03:17] special report from our North America
[00:03:21] America editor, Sarah Smith. Donald Donald Trump is not standing in these
[00:03:24] these elections, but he has put himself himself at the centre of the Republican
[00:03:27] Republican campaign. Hosting dozens dozens of rallies across the country,
[00:03:30] country, projecting confidence in in the face of opinion polls that that suggest significant defeats.
[00:03:34] defeats. If we win as big as I think, think, we look at the crowd, if we
[00:03:37] we win as big as I think we're going going to win, going to they're go go back into their holes. They're
[00:03:41] They're going to they're going to
[00:03:43] to go away. In this interview, it's
[00:03:46] it's clear he has considered that that Democrats may win both houses
[00:03:49] houses of Congress. If that happens, happens, I guess I'll become Mr Veto.
[00:03:53] Veto. I'm not going to let him run. run. And then at some point we'll
[00:03:56] we'll probably make deals. That's That's what's happened. I mean, this
[00:03:59] this is this wouldn't be the first first time. Donald Trump still draws
[00:04:03] draws a crowd with fans gathering gathering for a recent event in Port
[00:04:06] Port Huron, Michigan. His strategy strategy is to try to energise these
[00:04:10] these people who do still support support him, but often don't bother
[00:04:12] bother to come out and vote in midterm midterm elections. His views are
[00:04:15] are in line with most of America. America. I believe today. I think
[00:04:18] think even if there are things that that he's not doing perfectly, overwhelmingly overwhelmingly his views are what
[00:04:21] what the American people are looking looking for. He's the leader. So
[00:04:24] So you lead by being out front. You You don't lead from the back. And
[00:04:27] And it will inspire people to come come out and vote Republican. Seeing
[00:04:30] Seeing him. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. He's not for himself.
[00:04:34] himself. He's not for government. government. He's for the people.
[00:04:37] people. The Democrat Senate candidate candidate in Michigan, Abdul El-Sayed
[00:04:40] El-Sayed is in a tight race. His His left wing views and criticism
[00:04:43] criticism of Israel have turned off off some voters, and now he's under
[00:04:46] under fire from his own side. Dr Dr El-Sayed defeated a much more
[00:04:50] more moderate Democrat in the primary primary election. Haley Stevens and
[00:04:54] and she had pledged to support him. him. But when she was told not to
[00:04:57] to come to this church event on Sunday, Sunday, she suddenly flipped to backing
[00:05:01] backing the Republican. I am endorsing
[00:05:04] endorsing Mike Rogers for the United
[00:05:06] United States Senate today. I don't
[00:05:08] don't belong in Abdullah's campaign. campaign. Voters primary concern
[00:05:11] concern is the cost of living, and and most of them blame Donald Trump
[00:05:14] Trump and the war in Iran for pushing
[00:05:16] pushing up prices. At this farmers farmers market in Kennebunkport in
[00:05:20] in Maine, people think the President President is repelling voters, not
[00:05:22] not attracting them. How Donald Trump's Trump's performed over the last couple
[00:05:26] couple of years is that an important important consideration when you're
[00:05:28] you're deciding who to vote for?
[00:05:30] for? Definitely needs to go. If the
[00:05:33] the results are unfavourable to Republicans, Republicans, will that make a big big difference to Donald Trump's
[00:05:37] Trump's last couple of years? I think think he'll be even more vicious
[00:05:41] vicious and stupid and lash out in
[00:05:44] in any way possible to suit his narcissism.
[00:05:48] narcissism. Donald Trump has been been underestimated in opinion polls
[00:05:51] polls before. Maybe his Republicans Republicans will do better than expected.
[00:05:55] expected. Either way, this is his his last campaign and the last time
[00:05:58] time voters get their say on what what they think of him. Well, that's
[00:06:02] that's our North America editor, editor, Sarah Smith. Let's cross
[00:06:04] cross live now and speak to our correspondent correspondent Nada Tawfik, who is
[00:06:08] is in Michigan. A row has erupted
[00:06:10] erupted in the Democratic Party after after Michigan Congresswoman Haley
[00:06:13] Haley Stevens, who of course missed missed out on the party's Senate
[00:06:16] Senate nomination in the state to to Abdul El-Sayed, endorsed his Republican
[00:06:20] Republican rival. An incredible story.
[00:06:22] story. Tell us more. Yeah, that's.
[00:06:26] that's. Right, Miriam. And you know,
[00:06:29] know, Haley Stevens quickly came came under criticism from leading
[00:06:32] leading Democrats all the way from from Chuck Schumer, the Senate leader,
[00:06:35] leader, saying it was a betrayal betrayal of the party. Two Democrats Democrats here in Michigan who have
[00:06:39] have said that she has no future future in the Democratic Party after
[00:06:42] after this to her own staff resigning
[00:06:45] resigning en masse. And we were at
[00:06:48] at a rally last night in Southfield,
[00:06:53] Southfield, Michigan, and supporters supporters there of his essentially
[00:06:55] essentially said that this is going
[00:06:57] going to push those who are interested, interested, Democrats who are interested
[00:07:01] interested in keeping in getting getting the Senate winning back the the Senate. This will push them to
[00:07:05] to work even harder to elect Abdul
[00:07:07] Abdul El-Sayed. And that has been
[00:07:09] been right. We have seen the fractured
[00:07:11] fractured Democratic Party actually actually rallying around this progressive
[00:07:15] progressive candidate. Now he had
[00:07:17] had a record day of fundraising yesterday.
[00:07:22] yesterday. Miriam $2.4 million in in donations to his campaign. So
[00:07:25] So it seems her move has backfired backfired after losing to him in
[00:07:29] in the primary. She had real differences
[00:07:31] differences with him over his criticisms
[00:07:34] criticisms of Israel and after the the tensions kind of blew up to the
[00:07:37] the point where she was asked to
[00:07:39] to stay away from the campaign, it
[00:07:42] it seems she decided at that point point that she would support the
[00:07:46] the Republican, and she has been been on interviews here in the US
[00:07:50] US media being grilled about that
[00:07:52] that without really saying exactly
[00:07:54] exactly what changed her mind. So So a real shock here in Michigan
[00:07:58] Michigan that days before the election, election, a Democratic congresswoman
[00:08:01] congresswoman would support a
[00:08:05] Republican. Thank you very much indeed. indeed. Well, we have so many correspondents
[00:08:09] correspondents now who are taking taking the political pulse across
[00:08:12] across the US we're going to start start with Clive Myrie, who is in
[00:08:15] in North Carolina. It's quite astonishing
[00:08:18] astonishing that a place like North
[00:08:20] North Carolina could send a Democrat Democrat senator back to Washington
[00:08:23] Washington for the first time in in almost 20 years. The Republicans
[00:08:27] Republicans have ruled the roost roost here, but they're in trouble
[00:08:31] trouble in these elections. Many Many we've spoken to say the economy
[00:08:34] economy is their big concern, and and the cost of living is simply
[00:08:36] simply too high. We found a two mile
[00:08:39] mile long queue of people trying
[00:08:41] trying to get help from a food bank. bank. Farmers here say they're angry
[00:08:44] angry about tariffs and trade policy,
[00:08:47] policy, though some maintain they'll they'll stick with the Republicans.
[00:08:50] Republicans. The Democrats are confident confident they can win, and if they
[00:08:54] they do, that could spell big trouble
[00:08:56] trouble in Washington for Donald Donald Trump. Just look how long
[00:09:00] long this line is for early voting voting here in the state of Ohio.
[00:09:03] Ohio. Some of the guys here told told me they've been waiting 2.5
[00:09:06] 2.5 hours already to cast their ballot ballot in the building over there
[00:09:10] there ahead of Tuesday's midterm midterm election. And we're hearing
[00:09:13] hearing that the rates of early in-person in-person voting are way up on what
[00:09:17] what they were four years ago here. here. Now, the big issue, as soon
[00:09:21] soon as we got here, someone said said to me the cost of gas price
[00:09:23] price of petrol as it is nationwide, nationwide, of course, but this state
[00:09:27] state has been marked by an incredibly
[00:09:31] incredibly acrimonious race. The The Republicans hold this state both
[00:09:34] both in the Senate and for the governor's governor's mansion. There's been
[00:09:37] been a big row as far as that's concerned
[00:09:40] concerned over the attack ads in in that particular race. It all shows
[00:09:43] shows you just how bitterly fought
[00:09:45] fought the state of Ohio is going
[00:09:47] going to be. This state is shaping shaping up to be. One of the most
[00:09:51] most consequential contests in these these elections. I'm in Texas, where
[00:09:54] where the battle for a single Senate Senate seat could end up deciding
[00:09:58] deciding who controls Congress. More
[00:10:00] More than half $1 billion has been been spent on advertising alone,
[00:10:03] alone, making it the most expensive
[00:10:06] expensive non-presidential race in
[00:10:08] in American history. Democrat James James Talarico and Republican Ken
[00:10:12] Ken Paxton are in a race that's too
[00:10:15] too close to call. Democrats haven't
[00:10:17] haven't won here statewide since
[00:10:20] since 1994. If they manage it this
[00:10:22] this time around, it'll be the big
[00:10:24] big story of the night. Well, let's let's dive a little bit more deeply
[00:10:28] deeply now into what we could potentially potentially expect and what the ramifications
[00:10:32] ramifications of that might be over over the coming days. Let's speak
[00:10:34] speak to Mark Bednar, who was the the strategic spokesperson for the
[00:10:37] the former Republican House speaker speaker Kevin McCarthy. It's so good
[00:10:40] good to see you. Thanks so much for for joining us. And I guess my first
[00:10:43] first question now is what are you you hearing from Republicans? Because
[00:10:46] Because it just feels like the tide tide is against them right now. Well,
[00:10:50] Well, thanks so much for having me. me. There's a lot of different chatter
[00:10:54] chatter across the country. There There are certain situations you you just mentioned North Carolina,
[00:10:58] Carolina, North Carolina Senate seat seat that is an uphill climb. However,
[00:11:01] However, there's excitement in other other states for within the United
[00:11:04] United States Senate, such as Michigan, Michigan, such as potentially New
[00:11:08] New Hampshire, even Minnesota. So
[00:11:11] So while there are issues with deeply deeply red, deeply Republican states
[00:11:14] states that we've been seeing the the actual opportunity to for Republicans
[00:11:18] Republicans to win some of these these democratically held seats and
[00:11:21] and kind of provide a blocker in in order to maintain that Senate Senate majority that is still very
[00:11:25] very much in play as well. So you you believe that is still in play
[00:11:28] play despite what the polls are telling
[00:11:30] telling us in certain areas? Well,
[00:11:33] Well, what we've seen with the polls
[00:11:35] polls is a lot of these Senate races,
[00:11:37] races, whether it is in Iowa or Kansas
[00:11:39] Kansas or Texas, that the. And it's
[00:11:42] it's and beyond is that a lot of of these the polling averages with
[00:11:46] with end up being within the margin margin of error. So this ends up
[00:11:49] up becoming an instance where do
[00:11:51] do anything independents do conservative conservative leaning independents independents do other Republicans
[00:11:55] Republicans that have not yet voted voted or who traditionally do not
[00:11:58] not come out for midterms. Are they they actually going to have the opportunity
[00:12:02] opportunity here to show up and vote
[00:12:04] vote on Tuesday? If that's the case, case, Republicans can kind of stem
[00:12:07] stem the tide of the Democratic momentum. momentum. Mark, what about the President
[00:12:11] President Trump factor? Is he helping helping or hindering do you think? think? You know, the economy is a
[00:12:14] a big issue right now. Is President President Trump campaigning for you
[00:12:18] you as a candidate a good or bad bad thing? Well, any candidate who
[00:12:22] who thinks that they can cobble together together the unique voting coalition
[00:12:26] coalition that President Trump has, has, has amassed over the course course of the years. Any Republican
[00:12:29] Republican who thinks that they can can replicate that on their own does
[00:12:33] does so at their own peril. President President Trump has, you know, came
[00:12:37] came up with such an idiosyncratic idiosyncratic voting coalition, him
[00:12:40] him getting back on the road, him him attracting thousands of people
[00:12:43] people to rallies and actually engaging
[00:12:46] engaging a lower, lower propensity propensity voting population. It's
[00:12:49] It's really important that that part part of the Republican base gets
[00:12:52] gets out because if they do not show show up, then Republicans do not
[00:12:55] not have a chance. So President Trump Trump barnstorming the country right
[00:12:59] right now, that is very encouraging encouraging for Republicans in these these races. You're talking about
[00:13:03] about the Republicans chances. But But let's just say, you know, they they lose control of either the House
[00:13:06] House or the Senate or both. What What do you think is going to happen
[00:13:09] happen to the President Trump and and current administration's agenda?
[00:13:13] agenda? What are the repercussions repercussions potentially going to
[00:13:15] to be? Oh, buckle up. That's first
[00:13:18] first and foremost. But what we're we're going to see from on the what
[00:13:22] what Democrats have already signalled signalled we they're not in power
[00:13:25] power right now, but they've also also shut down the government, the
[00:13:28] the United States government multiple multiple times that the increased
[00:13:32] increased likelihood of that is only only going to go move forward should
[00:13:36] should Democrats maintain the power power of the purse with majorities.
[00:13:39] majorities. But also we get increasingly increasingly like more likely to
[00:13:42] to another impeachment of President President Trump. It just over the
[00:13:45] the course of the summer, Democrats Democrats more than 140 of them supported
[00:13:49] supported impeachment opening impeachment impeachment inquiry into President President Trump. I don't think that
[00:13:53] that number goes down. I think that that number only goes up. And should
[00:13:55] should they take the majority in in the House, that would equate to
[00:13:58] to about two thirds of that caucus caucus already. So we're marching
[00:14:02] marching towards that sort of dysfunction dysfunction and disruption. And, And, you know, President Trump's
[00:14:06] Trump's agenda, of course, from a a legislative standpoint that runs
[00:14:09] runs into a brick wall because Democrats Democrats are probably not going
[00:14:13] going to negotiate and work with with him. OK. Mark, it's been great
[00:14:16] great to talk to you. Thank you so
[00:14:19] so much for your analysis. Thank
[00:14:21] Thank you. Now you can watch a special
[00:14:24] special programme here on BBC News News bringing you the results of
[00:14:27] of those US midterm elections as
[00:14:29] as they happen. That's live from
[00:14:31] from Washington, DC with my colleagues
[00:14:34] colleagues Clive Myrie Sumi Somaskanda Somaskanda and Caitriona Perry. That
[00:14:36] That starts tomorrow evening at 11:30.
[00:14:40] 11:30. Let's take a short break now, now, though, because around the world world and across
[00:15:44] are braced for what could be a very very tough winter ahead. Stay with
[00:15:47] with us on BBC News and we'll bring
[00:15:48] bring you the latest. Now let's talk
[00:15:58] talk about Ukraine because we're we're hearing that at least 24 people
[00:16:00] people have been killed in a Russian Russian attack on a settlement in
[00:16:04] in the Zaporizhzhia region. Dozens Dozens more are said to be missing.
[00:16:07] missing. President Zelensky shared shared this video on X. He says the
[00:16:11] the settlement was hit several times times today and that a school being
[00:16:14] being used for humanitarian purposes purposes was struck. President Zelensky
[00:16:18] Zelensky said after the first aerial aerial bomb strike, there was a double
[00:16:20] double tap strike with nine more more bombs specifically targeting
[00:16:24] targeting the shelter where people
[00:16:26] people were taking cover. He's been been posting about this attack. Here's
[00:16:29] Here's our very latest. Now with with our correspondent in Kyiv. Dan
[00:16:33] Dan Johnson. He's posted some information information but also a video that
[00:16:36] that shows the aftermath of these these strikes. He's described this
[00:16:39] this as a double tap attack, which
[00:16:42] which is essentially where there's there's one round of strikes. And
[00:16:46] And then after a short delay, perhaps perhaps when rescue workers have
[00:16:49] have come to the scene, there is is a further round of strikes. In
[00:16:52] In fact, the President says after after the first aerial bomb, there
[00:16:55] there was a double tap strike with
[00:16:57] with nine more bombs. And that's
[00:17:00] that's the sirens just going off off here in Kyiv. As I'm speaking
[00:17:03] speaking to you, the President has has described this attack in the
[00:17:07] the Zaporizhzhia region as utterly utterly horrific. And he said that
[00:17:10] that the Russians could not have have been unaware that the building
[00:17:13] building that was hit was a school school that was actually being used
[00:17:17] used to distribute aid. He says people
[00:17:18] people were queuing up there every
[00:17:21] every week waiting for food parcels parcels and that that's when it was
[00:17:24] was hit. That's why at least 18 people
[00:17:27] people are reported killed. He's He's offered his condolences to their
[00:17:30] their families. He says five people people have been injured and a rescue
[00:17:34] rescue operation is still under way way and a search is continuing there.
[00:17:38] there. He said that this has shown
[00:17:41] shown what Russia's true intentions
[00:17:43] intentions are that even though the
[00:17:45] the humanitarian ceasefire had been been respected in the Kherson region
[00:17:48] region around Oleshky over the past
[00:17:50] past few days, six days that ceasefire ceasefire was in place, he said.
[00:17:54] said. The fact that this sort of of attack had just been carried out
[00:17:56] out by Russia showed that progress
[00:18:00] progress towards peace was not possible, possible, that Russia was sending
[00:18:02] sending an entirely opposite Signal Signal and that Russia is counting
[00:18:06] counting on more killings, he said said there must be a response to
[00:18:10] to this, a response from the world. world. Russian attacks have continued
[00:18:14] continued across the country and and presumably the reasons the sirens
[00:18:17] sirens are now sounding here in Kyiv Kyiv this evening means that there
[00:18:20] there are more Russian missiles or
[00:18:23] or drones heading towards this city.
[00:18:25] city. Of course, it's been a day day of complication for the air raid
[00:18:29] raid alert system here because of of what people experienced last night
[00:18:32] night through the Air Raid Alert Alert app, there were a series of
[00:18:35] of fake warnings that were issued
[00:18:38] issued through the app warning people
[00:18:40] people of potential chemical attack attack of a radiation, warning of
[00:18:44] of artillery shelling and even combat combat in the streets. So people
[00:18:48] people were questioning the reliability
[00:18:50] reliability of the alerts that are are issued through their phones.
[00:18:54] phones. The air raid sirens were were not compromised as part of that.
[00:18:57] that. So the hope of officials is is that people will still pay heed
[00:19:01] heed to the air raid sirens when
[00:19:03] when they sound because they are are a warning of a genuine impending
[00:19:07] impending threat. And this is what what people are living with right
[00:19:10] right across Ukraine day and night. night. It's why there's so much weariness
[00:19:14] weariness with the alert system, system, because it sounds sometimes
[00:19:17] sometimes up to 20 times a day, which which is disrupting people's lives
[00:19:20] lives even when it's warning of a a real Russian attack. People have
[00:19:24] have become so weary that they don't
[00:19:25] don't always take action in response
[00:19:28] response to the sirens. So Ukrainian Ukrainian officials, having experienced
[00:19:31] experienced that hack last night, night, that cyber attack on the system,
[00:19:35] system, are hoping to secure that
[00:19:37] that system so that people can have have faith in it so that they take
[00:19:41] take action when the sirens sound. sound. Well, as Dan just mentioned
[00:19:45] mentioned there, both Russia and and Ukraine reported those cyber
[00:19:48] cyber attacks on their apps designed designed to warn people of incoming incoming drone attacks. With more
[00:19:51] more on that side of the story, Joe
[00:19:53] Joe Inwood reports. There are parts
[00:19:57] parts of Ukraine where this is still
[00:19:59] still the reality of war in the 21st
[00:20:01] 21st century. They call this her her son's kill zone, an area along
[00:20:05] along the front lines inaccessible inaccessible for most of the war.
[00:20:08] war. Until last week, a brief humanitarian
[00:20:11] humanitarian ceasefire that allowed allowed rescue teams to get to people
[00:20:14] people who had been entirely cut
[00:20:18] cut off like Natalia. You can see see my house has been damaged by
[00:20:22] by drones, she says. The 53-year-old 53-year-old is one of a handful of
[00:20:25] of people who stayed in the village village of Coxsackie. Her life has
[00:20:29] has been reduced to basic survival
[00:20:31] survival drinking, rainwater, gathering
[00:20:33] gathering firewood and staying alive.
[00:20:37] alive. They've dropped mines everywhere. everywhere. You can't get through.
[00:20:40] through. I gather firewood for my
[00:20:42] my stove. I don't hide if a drone drone hovers over me for too long.
[00:20:46] long. I come out holding a white
[00:20:49] white cloth. The ceasefire has given
[00:20:54] given her some respite, but she knows
[00:20:55] knows it is only temporary. We need
[00:21:03] need silence. We need to talk and and negotiate. Because war in the
[00:21:06] the 21st century is nonsense. And
[00:21:09] And modern war is presenting a whole whole new set of challenges for those
[00:21:12] those fighting it. Warnings of attacks attacks like this are usually sent
[00:21:14] sent to an app that many Ukrainians
[00:21:16] Ukrainians use. But last night it
[00:21:19] it appears to have been hacked, sending sending dire warnings of fighting
[00:21:23] fighting in the streets of an impending impending chemical weapons attack,
[00:21:27] attack, even of a nuclear strike. strike. None of it was real. And
[00:21:30] And on the streets of Kyiv, people
[00:21:32] people seem to have taken it in their
[00:21:35] their stride. On the one hand, you
[00:21:39] you can laugh about it, but on the the other they were able to hack
[00:21:42] hack the programme, but it did not not trigger the kind of reaction
[00:21:45] reaction in society that they expected. expected. Speaking at a meeting in
[00:21:49] in Brussels, the UK's Defence Secretary Secretary warned the hack was part
[00:21:52] part of a wider threat. We don't
[00:21:55] don't yet know who is behind this
[00:21:57] this particular cyber attack in Ukraine. Ukraine. We'll follow those developments
[00:22:00] developments closely. But what we're we're in no doubt about is that right
[00:22:04] right across Europe we have seen,
[00:22:06] seen, you know, these hybrid or state
[00:22:08] state sponsored terrorist attacks
[00:22:11] attacks driven by Moscow. But it's it's also reported that a similar
[00:22:14] similar message was sent to Russians, Russians, which apparently read risk
[00:22:18] risk things could get lively. Don't Don't worry. Nuclear warheads have
[00:22:21] have been launched at all regions regions of Russia. It's not yet confirmed
[00:22:25] confirmed who was behind either message message back with the rescue teams
[00:22:28] teams in Kherson and what was the the most successful ceasefire of
[00:22:31] of the war has now come to an end.
[00:22:34] end. The realities of conflict in
[00:22:36] in the 21st century once again upon
[00:22:38] upon those who lived through it,
[00:22:41] it, Joe Inwood, BBC News. Well, let's let's speak now to Victor Zhora,
[00:22:44] Zhora, who's former deputy head of of Ukraine's national defensive cyber
[00:22:48] cyber operations and now serves the the Ukrainian army in the southern
[00:22:51] southern region of Mykolaiv Oblast. Oblast. Thank you so much for joining joining us, Viktor. And let me ask
[00:22:55] ask you first of all, as we heard heard there from Joe, we don't know
[00:22:58] know who was behind these cyber messages, messages, but the impact psychologically
[00:23:02] psychologically is clear, isn't it?
[00:23:04] it? Absolutely. We don't know who
[00:23:07] who exactly it was, but it's obvious
[00:23:10] obvious that it was made by Russian Russian hackers often associated
[00:23:14] associated with the state and backed
[00:23:15] backed by state. Why? Because they
[00:23:22] they continue threatening Ukrainian
[00:23:23] Ukrainian people. So it is another
[00:23:27] another psychological attack which which is combined with conventional conventional attacks. And this is
[00:23:30] is a hybrid war conducted by Russia,
[00:23:33] Russia, who for more than 12 years.
[00:23:37] years. And now we see the combination
[00:23:40] combination of cyber in information
[00:23:44] information operation and unfortunately unfortunately conventional missile missile strikes. Let's talk a little
[00:23:47] little bit about the impact of sorry,
[00:23:50] sorry, I just want to ask. You that's
[00:23:53] that's a typical that's a typical typical technique of Russian military.
[00:23:56] military. Absolutely. Viktor, let let me ask you a little bit now about
[00:23:59] about the dangers of doing this because, because, you know, normally in these
[00:24:02] these kinds of systems, these public
[00:24:04] public warning systems, they're considered
[00:24:06] considered off limits normally, aren't
[00:24:08] aren't they, by hackers, by other,
[00:24:11] other, you know, parties. The risks
[00:24:13] risks of actually using these systems systems now in this way are great,
[00:24:17] great, aren't they? Because it could could mean that citizens in the future future ignore messages like this
[00:24:21] this if they think they've been hacked
[00:24:23] hacked again. Well, anyway, the sound
[00:24:26] sound alerting system runs in parallel,
[00:24:29] parallel, so it's not an issue. And
[00:24:32] And as it was said, there are multiple
[00:24:35] multiple roles within several tens tens of alerts per day and people
[00:24:39] people can check this. Whether in
[00:24:40] in app or in other media. For instance,
[00:24:43] instance, Telegram channel, they
[00:24:45] they can check this in other apps
[00:24:47] apps as well. So the hack of this
[00:24:52] this particular app is of course
[00:24:53] course an unpleasant thing. But I
[00:24:56] I don't think it can cause a significant
[00:25:00] significant impact on the entire
[00:25:01] entire psychological state of Ukrainians Ukrainians because I believe that
[00:25:05] that a few of them. Believe that
[00:25:09] that this was the truthful information
[00:25:12] information received from the app app yesterday. Viktor, thank you
[00:25:15] you very much indeed for taking the
[00:25:17] the time to speak to us. Thank you.
[00:25:22] you. Dozens of supermarkets across across six European countries have
[00:25:25] have been hit by a suspected cyber
[00:25:27] cyber attack affecting their refrigerators refrigerators and freezers. Around
[00:25:30] Around 40 supermarkets were hit in in Belgium and Luxembourg and a smaller
[00:25:34] smaller number of shops were hit hit in Sweden, Ireland, Estonia and
[00:25:37] and the Netherlands. It's believed believed the attack used the same same method as last month's incident
[00:25:41] incident that hit hundreds of French French supermarkets, where hackers
[00:25:44] hackers turned the machines to defrost.
[00:25:46] defrost. Nick Beake has the latest.
[00:25:51] latest. Everything must go. Not a a sale but a binning of once frozen
[00:25:55] frozen food. Just some of the damage
[00:25:57] damage in this latest cyber attack attack to hit European supermarkets.
[00:26:01] supermarkets. All that you can see see here is having to be thrown away.
[00:26:04] away. But come and have a look at at this because it tells the story.
[00:26:06] story. The boss of this supermarket supermarket just outside Brussels
[00:26:10] Brussels reckons that about 100,000 100,000 worth of produce is having
[00:26:14] having to be thrown away. That's
[00:26:17] That's more than £80,000 worth of
[00:26:18] of stock. So here we've got ice creams,
[00:26:22] creams, pizza all that useless. Now
[00:26:25] Now this is one of 40 Delhaize stores
[00:26:28] stores in Belgium hit by the attack attack which boosted the temperature
[00:26:31] temperature of fridges and freezers
[00:26:34] freezers to 50 Celsius in Sweden Sweden and five more European countries.
[00:26:38] countries. The same cyber hack switched switched on the defrost mode, making
[00:26:42] making the food warm up. In some
[00:26:47] some organisation has hacked into into the temperature monitor system
[00:26:50] system for refrigerators and freezers. freezers. They've gained access and
[00:26:52] and tampered with settings and the the like. It's insane. I don't see
[00:26:55] see where they stand to gain from from it. It's a form of terrorism terrorism really. Terrorism that
[00:26:59] that are you. Cyber security agencies agencies from the affected countries
[00:27:03] countries are now trying to work work out who was behind this. We
[00:27:07] We definitely should be worried about. about. This happening again. It's It's not the first time that it's
[00:27:11] it's happening. It has happened just just a couple of weeks ago in France France and now it's happening throughout
[00:27:15] throughout the rest of Europe. It's It's thought many supermarkets had
[00:27:19] had tried to tighten their security security since the French cyber attacks
[00:27:23] attacks last month. But once again, again, hackers have caused disruption
[00:27:26] disruption and damages running into
[00:27:29] into millions of euros. Nick Beake.
[00:27:32] Beake. BBC News Brussels. Right, Right, we're coming to the end of
[00:27:35] of this half of the show, but if if we have time, let's take you briefly
[00:27:38] briefly to Capitol Hill and Washington, Washington, DC because of course,
[00:27:41] course, today is the final day of of campaigning ahead of Tuesday's
[00:27:45] Tuesday's midterm elections in the
[00:27:48] the US we have 435 seats in the House House of Representatives and 35 seats
[00:27:51] seats in the Senate up for grabs. grabs. Polls suggest the Democrats
[00:27:54] Democrats set to win back the House House and have a good chance, potentially,
[00:27:58] potentially, of taking the Senate,
[00:27:59] Senate, too. So we'll be across this this story here on BBC News. But
[00:28:03] But now we're going to take a short short break. The Iran