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Ukraine [00:00:35] Ukraine and Russia's emergency alert alert apps are both hit by cyber [00:00:38] cyber attacks, with users warned warned of nuclear and other threats. [00:00:42] threats. Meanwhile, Ukraine's president president says Russian forces have [00:00:44] have bombed a village in the southeastern southeastern Zaporizhzhia region, [00:00:48] region, killing at least 24 people. people. The UK home secretary, Shabana [00:00:52] Shabana Mahmood, scraps plans for for migrant care workers already [00:00:54] already in the UK to wait 15 years [00:00:57] years for permanent settlement. King King Charles is set to meet Prime [00:01:01] Prime Minister Andy Burnham in Antigua Antigua for the Commonwealth Heads Heads of Government meeting during [00:01:05] during the final leg of his Caribbean [00:01:08] Caribbean tour. It's crunch time. [00:01:15] time. The midterms are just hours hours away. An election that could [00:01:19] could shift the balance of power power in Washington. Selection is [00:01:22] is a battle between the powers that that be and the powers that ought [00:01:25] ought to be. Stop America hating [00:01:28] hating communists from taking over over the United States. Congress Congress shouldn't be this hard to [00:01:32] to afford a second bag of groceries groceries to pay your rent or your [00:01:34] your mortgage. This election is the the fork in the road for the future. [00:01:38] future. The power is in our hands. [00:01:40] hands. We the people. After months [00:01:47] months of campaigning, the US midterm midterm elections are here. They'll [00:01:51] They'll decide how America is governed governed over the next two years [00:01:55] years and crucially, how much power power the current Republican President [00:01:58] President Donald Trump will have have in his remaining time in office. [00:02:01] office. Now, over the next few minutes, minutes, we'll tell you what's at at stake. We'll break down some of [00:02:05] of the key races to watch out for for on election night. And we'll [00:02:08] we'll talk about how the results [00:02:10] results could reshape US politics. politics. First, let's start with [00:02:13] with just what is at stake, because because millions of people across [00:02:16] across the US have already cast their their votes, and millions more will [00:02:20] will go to the polls on election election day. But what's it all for? [00:02:24] for? Here's our analysis editor Ros Ros Atkins. The midterms are all [00:02:27] all about who controls the two houses houses of Congress, the House of [00:02:31] of Representatives and the Senate. Senate. This matters because it's it's the part of the US government [00:02:34] government that makes laws for the the country as a whole on everything [00:02:37] everything from immigration to taxes taxes to defence. And right now both [00:02:41] both houses are controlled by the the Republicans, as you can see, [00:02:44] see, which is very helpful to President President Trump. Now the House of [00:02:48] of Representatives is where proposed proposed laws are introduced and [00:02:50] and debated. Each state gets a number [00:02:53] number of seats proportionate to to its population. Members serve [00:02:56] serve two-year terms, which means means that all of the seats in the [00:02:59] the House are up for grabs in this [00:03:02] this election, there are 435 of them. them. So to control the house, a [00:03:05] a party needs at least 218. And according [00:03:08] according to the polls, the Republicans Republicans may have their work cut [00:03:11] cut out. Holding on to the House House of Representatives. Then there's [00:03:15] there's the Senate. One of its main main jobs is to approve or reject [00:03:18] reject those laws proposed by the [00:03:20] the House. Each state has two senators, senators, so there are a hundred [00:03:24] hundred in total. They serve six six year terms every two years. Roughly [00:03:28] Roughly a third of Senate seats are [00:03:31] are contested, so it's 35 this year [00:03:32] year to control the Senate, a party [00:03:35] party needs 51 or more, though if if it's 50-50, the Vice President [00:03:39] President can cast the deciding vote. vote. So that favours the Republicans [00:03:43] Republicans at the moment. Now, some some states are very likely to vote [00:03:47] vote Republican, while others are are very likely to vote Democrat. [00:03:50] Democrat. But there are a handful handful of states where races could [00:03:52] could go either way, and in doing doing so, determine the balance of [00:03:56] of power in Congress. So let's have have a closer look at three of them. [00:03:59] them. We'll start in Maine. America's [00:04:02] America's most north-easterly state. state. Now voters there chose Democratic [00:04:05] Democratic candidate Kamala Harris [00:04:08] Harris in the 2024 presidential election. election. Now Republican Senator [00:04:11] Senator Susan Collins is in a tight tight race to hold on to the Senate [00:04:14] Senate seat that she has held since [00:04:17] since 1997. The BBC s Helena Humphrey Humphrey is in Bangor in Maine, and [00:04:21] and she has this on what to look look out for. The rural forests of [00:04:25] of Maine might feel a long way away away from the politics of Washington, [00:04:28] Washington, DC, but if the Democrats Democrats want to flip the Senate, [00:04:31] Senate, they will likely need to to pick up a seat here. Now the Republican [00:04:35] Republican incumbent, Senator Susan Susan Collins, pitches herself as as a more moderate Republican prepared [00:04:38] prepared to break with President President Trump. But her Democratic [00:04:42] Democratic challenger, Troy Jackson, Jackson, a fifth generation lawyer, [00:04:45] lawyer, says that that independence independence is performative. Now, [00:04:47] Now, if Collins can hold on to that that seat, she can show that there [00:04:51] there is a pathway forward for more [00:04:53] more moderate Republicans in the the future. Going past President [00:04:57] President Trump's Maga brand of politics. politics. If Democrats can pick up [00:05:01] up this seat, they could flip the the Senate and ultimately challenge [00:05:04] challenge what President Trump can can get done in his final years [00:05:07] in the White House. Let's have a a look at Michigan now. The Senate [00:05:11] Senate race there has become a national national talking point. Can a progressive [00:05:15] progressive Democratic candidate candidate win for the Democrats in [00:05:17] in a crucial swing state that Donald [00:05:19] Donald Trump won in 2024? Or will [00:05:22] will Republicans manage to flip the [00:05:23] the seat? The result here could shape shape the national political conversation [00:05:27] conversation in the run up to the [00:05:30] the 2028 presidential election, our our correspondent Nada Tawfik sent [00:05:32] sent us this from Michigan's biggest biggest city, Detroit. The swing [00:05:36] swing state of Michigan is incredibly incredibly important to both parties [00:05:39] parties when it comes to control control of Congress. Democrats almost [00:05:42] almost certainly need to hold the the state to have a fighting chance [00:05:45] chance of retaking the Senate, and and Republicans think it's their [00:05:48] their best chance to pick up a Democratic [00:05:50] Democratic seat. Abdul El-Sayed is is a progressive Democrat who has [00:05:54] has been unapologetic about his criticism criticism of Israel and has pushed [00:05:57] pushed for populist policies such such as universal health care. If [00:06:01] If El-Sayed wins here in this swing [00:06:03] swing state, as polls suggest, it it would be a big moment for the [00:06:06] the left wing of the party. As Democrats Democrats debate their future ahead [00:06:10] ahead of presidential elections in in 2028. If he loses, establishment [00:06:14] establishment Democrats will say say it shows the party needs to move [00:06:17] move more to the centre. Thanks, Thanks, Ned. Now Abdul El-Sayed is [00:06:21] is facing a challenge from the Republican Republican congressman, Mike Rogers [00:06:24] Rogers there in Michigan. We'll see see how that one shakes out. Let's [00:06:27] Let's move on to the Lone Star State State because everything is bigger [00:06:30] bigger in Texas and that includes includes politics. The money being [00:06:34] being spent by campaigns and supporters [00:06:35] supporters there is on track to reach [00:06:38] reach $1 billion. Our chief North North America correspondent, Gary [00:06:42] Gary O'Donoghue, is in the state [00:06:43] state capital, Austin. Think about [00:06:46] about it half $1. Billion on advertising advertising alone for one Senate [00:06:49] Senate seat. If you piled that amount amount on top of one another, it [00:06:51] it would reach 34 miles into the the sky. I'm in Texas, which has [00:06:56] has now become the most expensive [00:06:58] expensive non-presidential race in in American history. It could decide [00:07:01] decide who ends up controlling Congress. Congress. It's a toss up at the moment, [00:07:05] moment, too close to call between between Democrat James Talarico and [00:07:08] and Republican Ken Paxton. Democrats [00:07:11] Democrats have dreamed of turning turning Texas blue for years. If [00:07:14] If they do manage it, it'll be the the big story of the night. Indeed [00:07:18] Indeed it will. Now, some of the the results in this election have [00:07:21] have already faced legal challenges, challenges, and that's before any [00:07:23] any results have been declared or or even before most people have shown [00:07:27] shown up to the polls. Both attempts attempts so far have come from the [00:07:30] the Trump administration, and they've they've both been dismissed by the [00:07:33] the courts. The most high profile profile case has been in Alaska. [00:07:36] Alaska. That's down to two candidates candidates on the ballot now with [00:07:40] with almost identical names. One One is the Republican senator who [00:07:43] who has served in the state since [00:07:45] since 2015, and the other is a retired retired teacher from a small fishing [00:07:48] fishing village. The Department of of Justice had tried to halt the [00:07:52] the certification of the result in [00:07:53] in that state. If the Republican Republican incumbent loses, arguing [00:07:57] arguing that votes cast for the other other Dan Sullivan could have changed [00:08:01] changed the outcome. The BBC's Shaimaa [00:08:03] Shaimaa Khalil is in Alaska and has [00:08:05] has more. This race is close. It [00:08:08] It is tightly fought and it is crucial. [00:08:10] crucial. And it goes far beyond Alaska [00:08:13] Alaska because a Democrat win in in this normally Republican state [00:08:16] state could tip the balance of power power in the Senate. Over in Washington [00:08:20] Washington and Alaska is not alone [00:08:22] alone in these legal battles in California, California, the Department of Justice [00:08:25] Justice is trying to get ballots [00:08:28] ballots linked to 20,000 people blocked blocked because they claim that they're they're not American citizens. And [00:08:32] And again, this has been dismissed dismissed by a judge. But now they [00:08:35] they want the Supreme Court to get get involved. So up until the very [00:08:39] very last minute, these challenges challenges are continuing and they [00:08:42] they tell us a lot, but mainly they [00:08:44] they pose this question how fiercely fiercely are these election results [00:08:48] results going to be fought when they they do come out? Now, a reminder [00:08:51] reminder we will of course have live live coverage on election night for [00:08:54] for you, bringing you all of the the results, the reaction and what [00:08:57] what it means for the President that that will be coming from our teams [00:09:01] teams right across the US and around around the world. So do join us for [00:09:04] for that. But what will both parties parties be looking out for on Tuesday [00:09:08] Tuesday night? Let's go back to Ross [00:09:10] Ross for this analysis. At the moment moment the Democrats don't control [00:09:13] control either the House of Representatives [00:09:15] Representatives or the Senate. Their Their goal in this election is to [00:09:19] to do something about that. Though Though if you look at the polling, [00:09:22] polling, they are widely expected expected to take the House of Representatives. Representatives. That is unlikely [00:09:25] unlikely to meet their expectations expectations for the evening. They're They're looking for more. They're [00:09:29] They're looking to control the Senate, Senate, too. And that looks like [00:09:32] like a much harder proposition in in order to take the Senate, they're [00:09:36] they're likely to have to defend defend some fiercely contested seats [00:09:38] seats and win some fiercely contested contested seats, which is why we're [00:09:41] we're keeping a close eye on states states like North Carolina, Michigan [00:09:45] Michigan and Texas. And while controlling controlling both houses of Congress [00:09:48] Congress is in part about a party's party's ability to promote its own [00:09:52] own agenda, if the person in the the White House is from the other [00:09:54] other side of the political divide, divide, it's also about being able [00:09:57] able to slow up what can be done done in the White House, which is [00:10:01] is another goal of the Democrats. Democrats. They want to put the brakes [00:10:04] brakes on the last two years that that Donald Trump has as president. [00:10:07] president. That is one of their main main goals for the night going into [00:10:11] into these midterms. The Republicans Republicans are on the back foot. foot. They may have Donald Trump [00:10:15] Trump in the White House. They may may at the moment control both houses [00:10:18] houses of Congress. But the way the the polling is looking, it may not [00:10:22] not stay that way. Even the most [00:10:24] most optimistic Republicans would would say they may struggle to hold [00:10:27] hold on to the House. If we're thinking thinking about what a successful successful night for the Republicans [00:10:31] Republicans would look like, we may may be better off focusing on the [00:10:34] the Senate if the Republicans can can fend off a fierce challenge from [00:10:37] from the Democrats, that would be be a huge boost for the party, not [00:10:40] not just because of the power it it would give it within an important [00:10:44] important part of the American government, government, but also because that that would be a significant support [00:10:48] support to Donald Trump as he seeks seeks to pursue his agenda in the [00:10:51] the last two years of his presidency. presidency. It would also allow the [00:10:54] the Republicans to fend off efforts efforts by the Democrats to disrupt [00:10:57] disrupt the last two years of Donald Donald Trump's presidency. So that's [00:11:01] that's what to watch in the US midterm [00:11:05] midterm elections, explained. [00:12:07] So Ukrainians are braced for what what could be a very tough winter winter ahead. Stay with us on BBC [00:12:11] BBC News. We'll bring you the latest. [00:12:16] latest. MUSIC [00:12:25] Welcome. You're watching the political context with me. Geeta [00:12:28] Geeta Guru-Murthy. Now the question question of immigration has long [00:12:31] long been politically fraught. And And even though net migration numbers [00:12:35] numbers have been falling here, the the government has been trying to [00:12:38] to cut illegal migration in particular [00:12:39] particular and tackle the wider political political concerns over this issue [00:12:43] issue whilst meeting the needs of of the economy. Well, today the Home [00:12:46] Home Secretary unveiled a major overhaul overhaul of the rules for migrants [00:12:50] migrants seeking permanent settlement settlement in the UK. What does Shabana [00:12:53] Shabana Mahmood bin saying? I'm joined joined by BBC Newsnight's political [00:12:57] political editor as always. Nick Nick what? Nick, thanks for being being with us. So she made a statement [00:13:00] statement in the House of Commons. Commons. What has she said? Well, [00:13:04] Well, so Shabana Mahmood believes believes that she needs to deal with [00:13:08] with the number of migrants that [00:13:10] that came on legal so-called regular regular routes around about 5 or [00:13:13] or 6 years ago. This was known as as the Boris Wave, which was a quite [00:13:17] quite a large increase when Boris Boris Johnson was Prime Minister. [00:13:19] Minister. This is in the sort of [00:13:22] of the post-Brexit era. And Shabana Shabana Mahmood, her idea was that [00:13:26] that you should increase from 5 to [00:13:27] to 10 years or potentially to 15 [00:13:30] 15 years. The wait to achieve indefinite indefinite leave to remain once you [00:13:33] you have indefinite leave to remain, remain, you have a pathway to citizenship citizenship and also you're able [00:13:37] able to access the health service. service. And if you need to, you [00:13:40] you can access benefits. There was [00:13:42] was a huge row in the Labour Party [00:13:45] Party Angela Rayner now back in the the cabinet but under Keir Starmer [00:13:48] Starmer had left the cabinet said said that the idea that Shabana Mahmood [00:13:51] Mahmood came up with was un-British un-British because it was going to [00:13:54] to be applied retrospectively and [00:13:55] and the big area of concern was over [00:13:58] over care workers. So what Shabana Shabana Mahmood announced today is [00:14:02] is that care workers who have between [00:14:07] between 2022 and 25 worked in the the care system, have had visas to [00:14:10] to do that and have been earning [00:14:13] earning £25,000. Then they will be be allowed to stay with that five [00:14:17] five year path. If you weren't working working in the care system, but you [00:14:21] you did have a care visa, then you you have a chance to flip back into [00:14:24] into the care system and then you you can do your five year path. So [00:14:27] So why don't we listen to what the [00:14:29] the Home Secretary told MPs. This This country welcomes those who seek [00:14:33] seek a new and better life within [00:14:35] within it. But I also know that there [00:14:37] there is an expectation of those [00:14:39] those who do that. They will play [00:14:41] play their part, contribute to their their community and become a part [00:14:45] part of our national life. I do not not think this despite being a Labour [00:14:49] Labour politician. I think this because [00:14:52] because I am a Labour politician. politician. If we are to ask our [00:14:55] our fellow citizens to buy into a [00:14:57] a system of shared taxation and universal [00:15:00] universal public services, they must must know that everyone is playing [00:15:04] playing their part. Solidarity is [00:15:06] is the precondition for social justice. [00:15:08] justice. The Home Secretary. What What do the Conservatives have to [00:15:11] to say on this main opposition? Of [00:15:14] Of course again, it's a pretty fraught fraught even on the conservative conservative side over the last ten [00:15:18] ten years. Yes. So Chris Philp is is the shadow home secretary for [00:15:22] for the Conservative Party, and he he was obviously a Home Office minister [00:15:25] minister during this period when when we had the so-called Boris Wave. [00:15:28] Wave. And Chris Philp was saying, saying, well, wait a minute, you. [00:15:30] you. Shabana Mahmood said that the the issue around care workers was [00:15:34] was a huge system and you believed believed very, very strongly that [00:15:37] that they should have the ten year year wait for indefinite leave to [00:15:41] to remain. So what's this all about? about? Interesting. Edward Leigh, [00:15:43] Leigh, Conservative MP who's the the father of the house, actually actually turned on his side and Chris [00:15:47] Chris Philp and said anyone who was was a Conservative Home Office minister [00:15:50] minister in this period should be be wearing sackcloth and ashes. How [00:15:53] How is that? But why don't we listen listen to what Chris Philp had to [00:15:56] to say? So if they had the courage courage to toughen up the welfare [00:16:00] welfare system, we'd get some of [00:16:01] of those people into work instead [00:16:04] instead of relying on mass low skill [00:16:07] skill migration. So, Mr Speaker, Speaker, if the Home Secretary wants [00:16:10] wants to face down her nemesis the [00:16:13] the community Secretary, and implement implement her own plans, we will [00:16:17] will vote for them. But if she capitulates [00:16:19] capitulates to the open borders left [00:16:21] left her credibility as Home Secretary Secretary will not recover. Yeah, [00:16:25] Yeah, I mean, a reference really really to the internal disparity [00:16:29] disparity of opinion within the Labour Labour Party. What did we hear from [00:16:33] from the backbenches? Yes, because because we know that Angela Rayner, Rayner, the housing secretary, Miatta [00:16:36] Miatta Fahnbulleh, who's the energy energy secretary, were not happy [00:16:39] happy about these on the back benches. [00:16:41] benches. Had Shabana Mahmood done done nothing, I think the government [00:16:44] government will now be facing a full-scale full-scale rebellion. She has acted [00:16:48] acted so. The reaction on the Labour [00:16:50] Labour benches was muted. There was was unease and interestingly, Diane [00:16:54] Diane Abbott, who's an iconic figure figure in the Labour Party, mother [00:16:58] mother of the House back back as [00:17:00] as a Labour MP having lost the whip, whip, clearly unease about uneasy [00:17:04] uneasy about this. But you didn't didn't get the impression that Diane [00:17:07] Diane Abbott is about to sort of of take a stand and lead a bigger bigger rebellion. Let's listen to [00:17:10] to what Diane Abbott had to say. say. My parents were immigrants. [00:17:14] immigrants. My mother was a nurse. [00:17:17] nurse. She was one of that generation [00:17:19] generation that came to this country [00:17:22] country to build the NHS after the [00:17:24] the war. And it remains the case [00:17:27] case that immigrants play a very [00:17:29] very important role in our NHS. And [00:17:33] And I say to the Home Secretary and [00:17:35] and I say to the House, we should [00:17:37] should always remember the contribution [00:17:39] contribution that immigrants made [00:17:42] made and continue to make to our [00:17:45] our society. I mean, there is always always a question about, you know, [00:17:48] know, how much any cabinet minister, minister, any government, any Downing [00:17:51] Downing Street wants to take on factions factions within their own party, [00:17:55] party, an ongoing question one imagines. imagines. Yeah. I mean, look, clearly [00:17:59] clearly Shabana Mahmood had to act. act. And interestingly for Andy Burnham, [00:18:02] Burnham, you can tell that he's torn torn on this because he was elected [00:18:06] elected MP for Makerfield, which which is very similar to his old [00:18:08] old seat of Leigh. There was a very very strong leave vote there, very [00:18:11] very strong views on immigration. [00:18:14] immigration. So he knows that he he needs to sort of be reasonably [00:18:17] reasonably strong on immigration. immigration. But equally he is the [00:18:20] the leader of a Labour Party that that has tilted a little bit to the [00:18:24] the left with the departure of Keir Keir Starmer. And there are many [00:18:27] many Labour MPs who want to see action. action. And that's why somebody like [00:18:31] like Diane Abbott is a very significant significant figure. And interestingly, [00:18:33] interestingly, she was saying to to Shabana Mahmood watch out. I see [00:18:36] see that this is a repeat of the the Windrush scandal to which Shabana [00:18:40] Shabana Mahmood said no. The point point about the Windrush scandal [00:18:43] scandal was that were commitments commitments made to people who were [00:18:46] were here, who were British and then [00:18:47] then were let down. These people [00:18:50] people are not British. They are are potentially on a pathway to that, [00:18:53] that, she said. Very, very different different situation to the Windrush Windrush scandal. It's really interesting, [00:18:57] interesting, isn't it? There's lots lots more we could say. But I do [00:19:00] do want to just ask you, Nick, whilst whilst you're here briefly. Obviously [00:19:03] Obviously a lot of focus on the midterms. [00:19:06] midterms. Any change within the House [00:19:08] House of Representatives or the Senate, [00:19:11] Senate, will that change potentially potentially US foreign policy and [00:19:14] and the UK's relationship with the the US therefore I mean all US allies [00:19:17] allies will be watching events in [00:19:20] in the US very closely this week. Well look, I did my usual thing thing today of walking the corridors [00:19:23] corridors of Westminster and I have have to say the hot topic amongst [00:19:27] amongst MPs peers is what is going [00:19:29] going to happen in the midterms tomorrow. [00:19:31] tomorrow. And of course, were the the Democrats to do well, were they [00:19:35] they to get the House? And it looks looks like, as we were saying, the [00:19:37] the Senate may well be in play. That That is potentially going to transform [00:19:41] transform the Donald Trump presidency. presidency. The one area where he [00:19:44] he may be able to do more if he's he's constrained domestically, because [00:19:48] because obviously Ross was saying saying that the two houses are in [00:19:50] in charge of domestic legislation, legislation, is foreign policy he [00:19:54] he could do maybe much more in that that area. Although you are technically technically as president, if you're [00:19:58] you're going to go to war, you should should be getting the approval of [00:20:01] of Congress. So yes, there may be [00:20:04] be a feeling that maybe this president president would be more focused on [00:20:07] on foreign policy. And the big challenge challenge for this country, as we've [00:20:10] we've seen in recent weeks, is Donald [00:20:13] Donald Trump's instincts on Ukraine Ukraine are to be more sympathetic [00:20:16] sympathetic to Russia than he is [00:20:19] is to Ukraine. And if there's more more foreign policy and more heading [00:20:22] heading in that direction, then for for a country like the UK, which which is obviously hugely supportive [00:20:26] supportive of Ukraine, as is indeed indeed the rest of the European, [00:20:29] European, that might be quite challenging. challenging. Yeah. And obviously obviously the Middle East is incredibly [00:20:33] incredibly difficult. There's been been a lot of speculation about whether whether there will be renewed action. [00:20:36] action. Andy Burnham clearly wanting wanting to focus domestically, but [00:20:39] but we know global events are really [00:20:42] really unavoidably, you know, kind kind of prescient. Well look, we we had the budget last week and they [00:20:46] they know in the Treasury that where where Donald Trump to launch renewed [00:20:49] renewed action in the Middle East, East, all those sort of fiscal plans plans could go out the window, although [00:20:52] although I think Donald Trump has has been speaking to Axios in the [00:20:55] the last few hours. And I think the the President saying not in a big [00:20:58] big rush to get into more military military action over there. Yes, [00:21:01] Yes, we never know what's going to to come out of DC, but we will be be watching. Nick Watt thanks very [00:21:05] very much indeed for being with us. [00:21:07] us. Much more, of course, on all [00:21:09] all the US politics coming up. [00:21:22] Africa Enterprise sponsored by Absa [00:21:26] Absa Group. MUSIC [00:21:36] I'm heading to Seacom, which [00:21:39] launched Africa's first private subsea [00:21:41] subsea fibre optic cable in 2009. [00:21:47] 2009. Headquartered in Mauritius, Mauritius, with hubs across southern [00:21:50] southern and eastern Africa, it connects [00:21:52] connects millions to the web. Now [00:21:54] Now Seacom is planning a $2 billion [00:21:56] billion cable connecting Africa to [00:21:58] to not just Europe but Asia. What [00:22:04] What is the opportunity you're seeing seeing in Africa's digital economy [00:22:06] economy that gives you the confidence [00:22:08] confidence to make such a large [00:22:11] investment? So if you just take a a map of the subsea connectivity connectivity throughout the world, [00:22:15] world, what you will find is between between Europe and North America, [00:22:19] America, lots of connectivity. But But if you just blow that map up up and look at the Indian Ocean basin, [00:22:23] basin, you'll find it's fairly devoid [00:22:24] devoid of connectivity and very little [00:22:28] little subsea cables in that area. [00:22:30] area. So the opportunity here is is to really connect Africa to the [00:22:33] the rest of the world in a meaningful [00:22:35] meaningful way with high speed connectivity. [00:22:38] connectivity. And it's a really ambitious ambitious project, but I think vitally [00:22:41] vitally needed for the African [00:22:45] continent. While hyperscalers like like Google and Meta build cables [00:22:48] cables to push content into Africa, [00:22:50] Africa, Seacom operates an open network network designed to connect African [00:22:54] African businesses out to global global opportunities. Do you find [00:22:57] find that to be a key component for [00:23:00] for success? Being able to own and and control more of the value chain? [00:23:04] chain? Why is it important to have have that autonomy? What hyperscalers [00:23:07] hyperscalers are doing today is exactly exactly that. They've realised that [00:23:10] that outsourcing all of this doesn't doesn't allow them to control their their own destiny. The reason they're [00:23:14] they're rolling out these cable infrastructures infrastructures is so they can drive [00:23:17] drive down the cost for their connectivity, connectivity, which is exactly the [00:23:19] the same model we've been using since [00:23:21] since 2009 or before that. And how [00:23:25] how does AI affect what you're able able to provide and what you need [00:23:29] need to provide in terms of how the the demand is going to grow or change. [00:23:32] change. What you are going to find [00:23:34] find is that AI will drive high speed [00:23:37] speed connectivity in a very elastic [00:23:38] elastic way. So not what we typically [00:23:41] typically have in a home today. But But now you're looking at tens or [00:23:44] or hundreds of gigabytes of capacity. capacity. If you look at the cables [00:23:47] cables that exist today, that technology technology won't run on those older [00:23:51] older cables. So we're building a a newer cable with newer technology [00:23:54] technology that allows us to have [00:23:55] have high speed connectivity. To [00:24:00] To compete globally, African businesses [00:24:03] businesses need massive AI bandwidth. bandwidth. But transferring that [00:24:06] that data brings risks. How are you [00:24:11] you thinking about the cybersecurity cybersecurity threats. That for us [00:24:15] us is an ongoing sort of consideration. consideration. What we're starting [00:24:18] starting to look at now, and this [00:24:19] this is a proper tongue twister, twister, post-quantum cryptography. [00:24:23] cryptography. So we're using quantum quantum physics or we will start [00:24:25] start to use quantum physics to encrypt encrypt data. Cyber criminals will [00:24:29] will continue to be there. And all all of these threat actors will continue continue to be there. It's about [00:24:32] about being one step ahead of them. them. Looking to the future. You've [00:24:36] You've got this big project that [00:24:39] that should come online in 2030. [00:24:42] 2030. What do you hope that project [00:24:44] project will achieve? I think it [00:24:47] it will go part of the way to unleash unleash the African continent. For [00:24:50] For many, many years I've said connectivity connectivity should be considered [00:24:54] considered as an essential service service similar to electricity and [00:24:56] and water. If you start to look at at it like that, you will then start [00:25:00] start to understand that this has has become the lifeline for many [00:25:02] many things people can't do. Having [00:25:05] Having pieces of connectivity all all over the continent, a growing growing population that's starting [00:25:09] starting to use technology and adopting adopting technology much faster than [00:25:13] than most of the world. That's where where the opportunities start to to come [00:25:27] Enterprise sponsored by [00:29:17] MUSIC [00:30:16] I'm Sumi Somaskanda in Washington and this is BBC World [00:30:19] World News America. President Trump Trump makes a final appeal for votes [00:30:22] votes ahead of Tuesday's US midterm midterm elections for his Republican [00:30:25] Republican Party is battling to maintain maintain control of both chambers [00:30:28] chambers of Congress. Democrat party [00:30:30] party is nominated the most extreme [00:30:33] extreme and dangerous slate of candidates candidates in American history. These [00:30:36] These are the most dangerous candidates [00:30:39] candidates ever put up. In Michigan. [00:30:42] Michigan. Abdul El-Sayed Senate campaign campaign reports a record breaking [00:30:45] breaking fundraising day after fellow fellow Democrat Haley Stevens pulls [00:30:48] pulls her endorsement in favour of of the Republican rival. 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