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[00:00:20] Headlines.
[00:00:23] Attention is on the imminent announcement of an agreement between Iran and Oman for
[00:00:27] reopening the Strait of Hormuz. Under the shadow of Tehran,
[00:00:32] Tehran says it will control the entry of a large number of departing vessels.
[00:00:35] That is, it is designed
[00:00:39] in such a way that both on the entry route
[00:00:42] and in parts of the exit route,
[00:00:46] commercial ships will actually pass through Iranian
[00:00:49] territorial waters. I didn't think this society, this
[00:00:53] country could continue, but it did
[00:00:57] continue. Our new dear leader was re-elected. It's
[00:01:00] very difficult to communicate with him now. The first part of the interview
[00:01:04] with the Iranian president about the country's situation
[00:01:07] was broadcast. Physicians say the Islamic Republic has been able to
[00:01:11] overcome the most difficult conditions after the revolution.
[00:01:13] The dissolution of the PKK in
[00:01:17] exchange for the non-prosecution of its members, a bill
[00:01:20] for an agreement with the Kurdistan
[00:01:24] Workers' Party, went to the Turkish Parliament.
[00:01:26] رفت.
[00:01:33] And the firefighters' round-the-clock efforts to control
[00:01:35] widespread fires in parts of Europe.
[00:01:56] Hello to you, and welcome to another news segment from BBC Persian Television.
[00:02:00] The Iranian Foreign Ministry says Tehran and Muscat have reached
[00:02:03] an understanding on the geographical coordinates of shipping routes in the Strait
[00:02:07] of Hormuz, and a joint statement will be released soon.
[00:02:10] Ismail Baghaei, the Foreign Ministry spokesperson, however,
[00:02:14] stressed that this agreement does not mean the immediate
[00:02:18] opening of the Strait of Hormuz and called the US actions one
[00:02:21] of the main obstacles. Kazem Gharibabadi, Deputy Minister
[00:02:25] for International Affairs at the ministry, also said that the new agreement with Oman regarding the new
[00:02:29] shipping route will increase the share of passage through
[00:02:33] Iran's territorial waters. This is while Donald Trump, the US President, has again
[00:02:36] threatened military action if an agreement is not
[00:02:39] reached. Kazem Naji and more
[00:02:42] details.
[00:02:45] The crew of the Indian-flagged ship that was attacked
[00:02:49] by Houthis at the mouth of the Red Sea yesterday and sank
[00:02:53] had superficial
[00:02:56] injuries. All 13 Indian crew members and one
[00:03:24] in southwestern Hodeidah were targeted by a boat full of explosives. Attacks on commercial
[00:03:28] ships in the Red Sea are an attack on Yemen and the people of Yemen.
[00:03:32] In the Strait of Hormuz, there are also signs that one or more
[00:03:35] ships here off the coast of Oman were targeted and
[00:03:39] set on fire. Satellite images show a large
[00:03:43] fire that may be related to a ship that was targeted
[00:03:46] here yesterday. A Liberian-flagged
[00:03:50] cargo ship. An attack was reported
[00:03:53] in which one crew member of the ship
[00:03:57] went missing.
[00:04:02] The Strait of Hormuz is now at the center of trilateral talks
[00:04:05] between Iran, Oman, and America.
[00:04:09] The Iranians contacted me and very politely requested
[00:04:13] a discussion, and I accepted. I said, let's bring this agreement
[00:04:16] to fruition, but what's important is action, not words.
[00:04:20] If they are not willing to agree, it will not be
[00:04:23] good for them. American sources told
[00:04:27] Axios that in the ongoing negotiations, it has been considered
[00:04:30] that ships will enter the Strait of Hormuz from Iran's coastal
[00:04:34] waters and exit from Oman's coastal waters.
[00:04:38] During the 30 days that these arrangements are to be
[00:04:41] temporarily implemented, the mines in the middle
[00:04:45] part of the strait will be cleared so that ships can then
[00:04:48] pass through the middle part. The national security
[00:04:52] of the Islamic Republic of Iran is at risk. The Iranian side
[00:04:56] says that negotiations with Oman have made good progress, provided
[00:05:00] that America does not interfere. Now I can say that the latest
[00:05:03] situation is that almost all
[00:05:06] the issues that were raised
[00:05:10] have finally been addressed. The routes
[00:05:14] for entry and exit, or maritime
[00:05:16] traffic, and those side agreements
[00:05:20] with Oman, because it's not just a map,
[00:05:23] these almost fundamental agreements
[00:05:26] with Oman have been
[00:05:28] concluded. The Iranian Foreign Minister, who went
[00:05:32] to Karbala yesterday for the Arbaeen ceremony, is now scheduled to go
[00:05:36] to Pakistan on Friday to continue
[00:05:40] his mediation by exchanging messages
[00:05:43] between Iran and the US. Although the Foreign Ministry
[00:05:46] spokesperson now says there is no plan for this trip.
[00:05:49] نیست.
[00:05:51] The opening of the Strait of Hormuz is now being considered in exchange for
[00:05:55] lifting the naval blockade of Iran, and it is likely
[00:05:58] that the Islamabad agreement will be
[00:06:01] returned, probably with new conditions.
[00:06:05] Kasra Naji, BBC.
[00:06:09] Reza Goharshad, journalist and international relations analyst, is with us.
[00:06:15] This agreement, which we now know will be temporary, in your opinion, will it be
[00:06:18] a victory and a step forward for
[00:06:21] Iran, or is it just the beginning of a new
[00:06:25] round of shoulder-to-shoulder
[00:06:32] on the process that the US and Iran have looked at
[00:06:36] this war of words and the negotiations,
[00:06:39] it seems that both
[00:06:43] countries want to gain concessions and each wants to gain
[00:06:46] more concessions from the other. The US is not interested
[00:06:50] in staying in the war because economically
[00:06:53] and in terms of oil prices, the world
[00:06:57] is counting on this issue and
[00:07:00] sees that the big economic problem that has been created
[00:07:04] is that oil does not reach European
[00:07:07] countries. On the other hand, Iran also
[00:07:10] sees this. Even though Iran says
[00:07:13] it points out that it has been victorious in this war so far and
[00:07:17] has been able to achieve its goals,
[00:07:21] there is a reality: Iran has not been able
[00:07:24] to get the necessary money that they promised
[00:07:27] it could get back from its frozen funds.
[00:07:31] It has not been able to get these back. Therefore,
[00:07:35] it seems that this 60-day plan is
[00:07:38] another 60-day temporary plan for global issues
[00:07:42] and opening this strait.
[00:07:46] And who will be
[00:07:49] the decisive factor? Naturally, they say
[00:07:52] that whoever strikes first
[00:07:55] is the one who started the war
[00:07:59] and broke this agreement. Therefore, it doesn't seem
[00:08:02] that you are very optimistic that this agreement
[00:08:05] will lead to a kind
[00:08:08] of peace
[00:08:12] or a lasting ceasefire.
[00:08:14] I'm not optimistic.
[00:08:18] Today, this optimism cannot be, we hope
[00:08:22] it will end. Let's announce with optimism that
[00:08:25] I hope this war will end and lead
[00:08:28] to a fruitful negotiation.
[00:08:31] In the meantime, both Pakistan and other countries are making
[00:08:35] their efforts, and each one,
[00:08:38] based on their interests,
[00:08:40] is doing this. That is, this difference
[00:08:44] in interests creates
[00:08:47] this pessimism that, well, how far
[00:08:51] will Pakistan go? Pakistan currently
[00:08:54] has an agreement with Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia
[00:08:58] wants to coordinate that issue with
[00:09:01] Pakistan and for Pakistan to help secure these
[00:09:04] waterways. On the other hand, you see that
[00:09:08] the US indicates that
[00:09:11] the main condition
[00:09:14] for Saudi Arabia to participate
[00:09:18] in nuclear agreements
[00:09:20] and these matters is that they accept
[00:09:24] the Abraham Accords. Accepting
[00:09:28] the Abraham Accords means telling the Arabs
[00:09:31] in the Persian Gulf that we have given
[00:09:35] up on the two-state solution
[00:09:38] for Palestine and Israel together. And this is not only
[00:09:42] not of interest to Israel, not to Netanyahu,
[00:09:46] but a number of Arab countries are also not willing to accept
[00:09:50] this morally. Saudi Arabia itself
[00:09:53] sees this as a red line. That's why
[00:09:56] it's possible that with a
[00:09:59] strike from Israel or from
[00:10:03] Iran to Israel or any of the countries
[00:10:06] in the region, this agreement will
[00:10:09] somehow be questioned and terminated.
[00:10:13] Thank you, Reza Goharshad, journalist and international relations analyst.
[00:10:16] Mostafa Daneshgar, political analyst, also joins us. Mr.
[00:10:20] Daneshgar, inside, at any rate, whenever there's talk of some kind
[00:10:22] به هر حال هر زمانی که صحبت از نوعی.
[00:10:49] of what Iran has now achieved with the Omani side, especially since we see the Foreign Ministry constantly trying to convince them that Iran will still
[00:10:53] have control.
[00:11:03] tonight, in the interview program
[00:11:06] with President Peskiyan, the weight of these groups
[00:11:10] is still high.
[00:11:14] From the first day that
[00:11:17] Mojtaba Khamenei stated that he was originally against it,
[00:11:20] but he gave permission to the president.
[00:11:23] This means that these groups came
[00:11:26] to the field, obstructed, and sabotaged.
[00:11:29] As we hear in the news,
[00:11:33] regional officials have pointed out
[00:11:37] that during these negotiations that are currently
[00:11:40] underway between the Islamic Republic and the Sultanate
[00:11:43] of Oman, the Revolutionary Guard is
[00:11:47] not present, and we know that the military bloc plays a decisive
[00:11:51] role. The Supreme Leader's office itself stated
[00:11:55] that it was against it, and then raised the issue
[00:11:58] of revenge and retaliation against the US president.
[00:12:02] It carries a lot of weight. Today it was said
[00:12:05] that the plan is still the same plan,
[00:12:08] in which the Revolutionary Guard is not present. The plan between the Islamic
[00:12:11] Republic and Oman is still awaiting
[00:12:15] Mojtaba Khamenei's approval. Again tonight, Peskiyan
[00:12:18] stated that there are difficulties in communicating
[00:12:22] with Mojtaba Khamenei. These groups, in my opinion, still, due
[00:12:25] to a vacuum of leadership that
[00:12:29] could be the final arbiter, the lack of
[00:12:32] will in the institution of the Guardianship of the Islamic Jurist,
[00:12:35] which has an absent leader who leads a shadowy life
[00:12:39] and has stated that he is against it and
[00:12:42] has another opinion, has raised a fundamental
[00:12:46] issue called revenge. In my opinion, these groups still have a lot of weight
[00:12:50] and, alongside IRIB, the chance of
[00:12:53] reaching, meaning, returning to the memorandum
[00:12:57] of understanding for comprehensive
[00:13:01] negotiations still faces difficulties
[00:13:04] and reduces its chances. And among the personalities
[00:13:08] who are pursuing some kind
[00:13:11] of peaceful solution to end these
[00:13:15] circumstances, including the Iranian Foreign
[00:13:18] Minister and also Mohammad Bagher Ghalib, the chief
[00:13:21] negotiator, do you see them having the ability
[00:13:27] to have the final say? Because it seems that ultimately, someone needs to be found who can
[00:13:30] have the final say. The short answer
[00:13:34] is no, with the current composition of the executive
[00:13:38] body and the ruling body in the Islamic Republic.
[00:13:41] As evidence, Mohammad Bagher
[00:13:45] Qalibaf, upon his return from his trip to Islamabad, first,
[00:13:49] immediately after signing the memorandum of understanding,
[00:13:52] when he came under pressure,
[00:13:56] despite his initial positions being more moderate,
[00:13:59] he suddenly made a very clear
[00:14:03] turn and rotated 180 degrees
[00:14:06] to the opposite of his previous positions. Regarding
[00:14:09] the Strait of Hormuz, he had stated that the Islamic Republic can no longer
[00:14:12] maintain its dominance over the Strait of Hormuz,
[00:14:15] according to the principlists or the hardline faction,
[00:14:19] and continue to exert sovereignty over the strait. Regarding
[00:14:22] the nuclear program, he had shown flexibility. He had even established a principle
[00:14:26] that we do not have the ability to establish
[00:14:30] a balance of power with the US. He abandoned all of this. Now
[00:14:33] his language is a language that
[00:14:36] is in harmony with and in agreement with the hardline
[00:14:40] faction. You see his advisors, including Mehdi Mohammadi.
[00:14:44] His own language and his own absence have almost, one could say,
[00:14:47] disappeared now in the horizon, in the horizon that these
[00:14:50] hardline forces have drawn. At least until now. Now, whether
[00:14:54] from now on, another layer of Islamic Republic officials
[00:14:58] will be eliminated in a short-term, temporary conflict
[00:15:01] and these forces, like Qalibaf,
[00:15:04] will be able to gain the upper hand as chief negotiators, that's
[00:15:08] another matter. For now, the answer to your question is no. Thank you,
[00:15:12] Mostafa Daneshgar, political analyst of Iranian
[00:15:14] affairs.
[00:15:17] As was said, the first part of the four-part interview series
[00:15:21] with Masoud Peskiyan, the Iranian President, with the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting, aired tonight.
[00:15:25] This episode was supposed to be released last night, but according to the President's office,
[00:15:29] due to the busy schedule of IRIB on the
[00:15:33] night of Arbaeen, it was postponed. Mr. Peskiyan, in a part
[00:15:36] of this interview, said that the Islamic Republic has been able to overcome
[00:15:39] the most difficult conditions after the revolution. He said that despite
[00:15:43] the crises of the past two years, Iran is referred to as a powerful
[00:15:47] country. Goncheh Heyubi Azad, my colleague, is here
[00:15:50] with me. Goncheh, you fully listened to Mr. Peskiyan's
[00:15:54] remarks. What did Mr. Peskiyan say? He first
[00:15:57] started by summarizing all the events of the past two years,
[00:16:01] from the killing of Ismail Haniyeh, the Hamas leader, when he was in Tehran,
[00:16:04] to the 12-day war last summer and
[00:16:08] the recent 40-day war. He also mentioned it,
[00:16:12] and about who the people are, he said that all people
[00:16:16] are included in our governance, and ultimately, all people, regardless
[00:16:19] of gender, ethnicity, and so on, are important. And
[00:16:23] he talked about various topics, but this was only a 27-minute
[00:16:27] segment that we saw today. And he also talked about Mojtaba Khamenei,
[00:16:30] the current leader of the Islamic Republic, with whom Mr. Peskiyan had a meeting,
[00:16:33] and also about the killing of the wife of the former leader of the Islamic Republic,
[00:16:37] Ali Khamenei, and the events that followed.
[00:16:41] Let's listen to a part of Mr. Peskiyan's remarks.
[00:16:45] بشنویم
[00:16:49] And well, this very barbaric act
[00:16:52] was carried
[00:16:55] out.
[00:16:58] Of course, I didn't think this society, this country, could
[00:17:01] continue, but it did continue. Our new
[00:17:05] dear leader was re-elected.
[00:17:09] It's very difficult to communicate with him now,
[00:17:13] but his presence is a very great strength
[00:17:17] for us.
[00:17:20] Peskiyan talked about Mojtaba Khamenei, the current leader of the Islamic Republic
[00:17:23] of Iran, of whom only two officials have said
[00:17:27] they met him: Mr. Peskiyan himself
[00:17:30] and Ali Abdollahi, the commander of the Khatam al-Anbiya
[00:17:34] Central Headquarters. And Mr. Peskiyan talked about his meeting with
[00:17:37] his father, Khamenei, which he had previously said lasted two and a half hours. He said that
[00:17:40] his personality is different from what people say, for example, Mr. Peskiyan said that
[00:17:44] he is different from what they say, and they had a very warm
[00:17:48] encounter. Mr. Peskiyan also talked about January 8th and 9th
[00:17:51] and the protests, and about the numbers that have been raised regarding
[00:17:55] the killed. And he also said that after the war and after
[00:17:59] the killing of the former leader of the Islamic Republic, Ali
[00:18:03] Khamenei, many thought that the government would fall, and Mr. Peskiyan
[00:18:07] himself thought the same, but Mojtaba Khamenei replaced him.
[00:18:10] We are seeing his picture now, and we haven't seen a new picture of Mojtaba
[00:18:14] Khamenei after the war, and his messages are published in writing.
[00:18:17] This interview
[00:18:20] became very controversial and newsworthy
[00:18:24] because in its teaser, there was talk of resignation. Mr.
[00:18:27] Peskiyan denied that he had ever
[00:18:30] resigned and said he would not resign. Did we reach that part in this
[00:18:34] interview or not? In this interview.
[00:18:37] No, but if I want to say what happened, a report
[00:18:41] was published in early June that Mr. Peskiyan had resigned,
[00:18:45] and this resignation was due to his disagreements with the Revolutionary
[00:18:48] Guard and with the hardliners within the government. And at that time,
[00:18:52] Mr. Peskiyan's office denied this, saying that such an event had not occurred.
[00:18:56] This week, it became noisy again because of the words of one
[00:18:59] of the ayatollahs in the country, and that he had said
[00:19:02] that Mr. Peskiyan, if one of the clerics
[00:19:06] close to the house of the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran,
[00:19:10] in fact, Mohammad Bagher Kharazi, had said that Mr. Peskiyan had repeatedly told
[00:19:14] Mojtaba Khamenei that he had resigned, and this resignation was not accepted.
[00:19:17] Even the number 28 times was mentioned. Mojtaba Khamenei's office
[00:19:21] immediately reacted without mentioning Mr. Kharazi's name and
[00:19:25] said that all information is published from the office itself, not
[00:19:29] things that others say. And Mr. Peskiyan also in this
[00:19:32] interview, it seems from his teaser that he denied this resignation and said
[00:19:35] he would announce it himself. But we don't know the sequence of events and some of these
[00:19:39] that were recorded, and that's why it's not clear. But what is certain is that
[00:19:43] this rumor continues. Thank you, Goncheh. Goncheh Azad,
[00:19:46] my colleague, here in the studio. Let's continue the program with a few short
[00:19:50] news items. The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights announced that since
[00:19:54] March 19 of this year, that is, the beginning
[00:19:57] of the Hijri year, at least 56 people have been executed
[00:20:01] in Iran on security charges. Of these, 27 cases
[00:20:04] were related to the January protests.
[00:20:07] Volker Turk called on Iranian authorities to halt
[00:20:11] executions and to act to abolish the death
[00:20:15] penalty. Lebanese state media announced
[00:20:19] that one person was killed and 11 injured in an Israeli attack in the south
[00:20:22] of the country. The Israeli army announced that it launched these
[00:20:26] attacks in response to what it called a clear violation of the ceasefire
[00:20:29] agreement by Hezbollah. Meanwhile, the United
[00:20:33] Nations announced the return of more than 800,000
[00:20:36] Lebanese displaced people to their areas of residence.
[00:20:40] Despite a decrease in clashes after the ceasefire,
[00:20:43] approximately 360,000 people in Lebanon are still
[00:20:47] displaced. Nearly 26,000 people are housed in public
[00:20:51] shelters.
[00:20:54] The Ukrainian president says widespread Russian attacks on
[00:20:58] Kyiv and its surrounding areas have left 21 dead and dozens
[00:21:01] injured. In these attacks, eight people were killed at a train
[00:21:04] station in eastern Kyiv, and several others were killed in an attack on a
[00:21:08] post office. Volodymyr Zelensky said the lack
[00:21:11] of ballistic missile interception systems prevented the saving
[00:21:15] of some lives. Meanwhile, Ukrainian drones hit
[00:21:18] another warehouse.
[00:21:31] Turkey's ruling party and its allies have submitted a draft law to parliament
[00:21:35] that aims to reach a final agreement to end
[00:21:39] decades of conflict with the Kurdistan Workers'
[00:21:42] Party. Under this plan, with the permanent
[00:21:45] dissolution of the PKK, many former members of this group
[00:21:48] will be immune from prosecution. And the implementation of prison sentences for some others
[00:21:52] will also be suspended. This plan can also
[00:21:56] pave the way for the return of thousands of PKK fighters from Iraq
[00:21:59] to Turkey. This bill enjoys widespread support
[00:22:03] in parliament, but polls show
[00:22:06] public opinion is skeptical about achieving
[00:22:09] lasting peace. Earlier, I asked Abbas Vali,
[00:22:12] a political analyst in Turkey, how likely
[00:22:16] this bill is to resolve the four-decade conflict between Turkey and the PKK.
[00:22:28] That is, it's a kind of legal plan to solve this
[00:22:32] problem, apparently with 12 articles.
[00:22:35] But so far,
[00:22:39] the provisions and content of this plan
[00:22:42] are not clear. I spoke today with a representative
[00:22:45] of the HDP. They told me
[00:22:49] that apart from Mr. Ocalan and Mr.
[00:22:53] Erdogan himself and
[00:22:56] also Mr. Kalin, who is the head
[00:23:00] of Turkey's intelligence agency, so to speak, Turkey's
[00:23:04] security, no one else
[00:23:06] knows about the content of this plan. They only
[00:23:10] know it has 12
[00:23:12] articles. The rest is all, so to speak, more
[00:23:16] talk that is being said are guesses,
[00:23:19] meaning they think, meaning a kind
[00:23:22] of interpretation of some words and some things. What is
[00:23:25] clear in the Turkish press
[00:23:29] is that there is no talk of a general
[00:23:32] amnesty. That is, the government
[00:23:36] has refrained from giving a general amnesty to
[00:23:39] the PKK, the Kurdistan Workers' Party. What
[00:23:42] seems to be the case here within this
[00:23:46] framework, within this legal framework,
[00:23:50] is the issue of reducing
[00:23:53] crimes, so to speak. For example, from 15
[00:23:56] years to 10 years, from 10 years to 5 years.
[00:24:00] This is what I heard and
[00:24:03] also what was written in Hürriyet and some other Turkish
[00:24:07] newspapers. That was
[00:24:10] Abbas Vali, the political analyst.
[00:24:14] Extreme heat and unprecedented low rainfall continue to cause damage
[00:24:18] in large parts of Europe.
[00:24:22] In west Athens, the capital of Greece, firefighters worked all night to contain a large
[00:24:26] fire that has engulfed the forests. In the province
[00:24:29] of Limburg, Netherlands, efforts to control
[00:24:33] the flames continued until this
[00:24:36] morning. In southwestern France, residents are
[00:24:40] returning to a village that was severely
[00:24:43] devastated by last month's wildfires. Let's watch
[00:24:46] James Waterhouse's report. For a few days.
[00:25:50] that had previously sunk have been found, and now it is feared that
[00:25:53] potential shipping restrictions due to low
[00:25:57] water levels will also cause economic
[00:25:59] damage. It is predicted that within a week.
[00:26:19] Especially in France, where hundreds of thousands of people in the Gironde
[00:26:23] region were forced to leave their homes and are now
[00:26:26] returning as the fire is contained.
[00:26:30] My impression was that we were forced to leave the area because of the smoke.
[00:26:34] There was smoke everywhere. I didn't think we would face such a scene. It seems that this
[00:26:38] amount of damage was not enough. The explosion of hundreds of cannonballs
[00:26:42] remaining from World War II has also been added
[00:26:45] to it. These cannonballs have been revealed after the fire.
[00:26:48] Philip, the commander of the bomb disposal unit, says
[00:26:52] that local residents initially thought that the sound
[00:26:55] of the explosion was due to gas cylinders. These munitions
[00:26:58] are dangerous. When the weather gets cooler, we will detonate them.
[00:27:02] Because we don't want to start another fire. July
[00:27:06] was the hottest month ever recorded in France, and in the past
[00:27:09] century, the Earth's temperature has continuously gotten
[00:27:12] warmer. However, this trend is happening at a faster
[00:27:16] rate in Europe. This means that heatwaves
[00:27:20] will be more intense and more frequent in the future.
[00:27:23] The burning of fossil fuels is changing summers in various
[00:27:26] ways, and Europe will feel its impact
[00:27:30] more than ever before.
[00:27:50] They use fake names, their phones are disposable,
[00:27:54] and they remain hidden from sight. Not to escape
[00:27:58] the law, but to expose lawbreakers.
[00:28:01] شکنا.