BBCPERSIAN — broadcast 20260806 163000 UTC 431 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] A live look at the most important news and events in Iran and [00:00:04] the world. [00:00:11] Stay with us for the latest developments of the [00:00:14] World [00:00:18] Cup. We are with [00:00:21] you. [00:00:24] This is London, BBC Radio. 8 PM Tehran. Headlines: [00:00:28] Continuation of Iran-Oman talks over the Strait of [00:00:32] Hormuz. Pakistan hopes that if an [00:00:35] agreement is reached, talks between Tehran and Washington will [00:00:39] resume. Reports say that a [00:00:42] big concession has been given to the Iranian side in this agreement. We ask if it can [00:00:46] be considered a victory for Tehran. Also, [00:00:50] in this program, news about the shortage of [00:00:53] US ammunition in the war with Iran has intensified. Donald [00:00:56] Trump has denied the claims, and the White House has threatened [00:01:00] whistleblowers with imprisonment. We ask an expert about the military [00:01:04] power of the US currently compared to five [00:01:07] months ago and before the Iran war. [00:01:10] The Iran Human Rights Organization says that the judiciary of the Islamic Republic executed [00:01:14] 71 people in July on various charges. [00:01:18] Good evening, [00:01:23] wherever you are in the world, welcome to Jam-e Jahan-nama [00:01:26] on Thursday, August 6, 2026. [00:01:31] I am Mina Joshghani. In the next half hour, [00:01:34] together with our reporters, we will talk about [00:01:38] developments related to the US war with Iran and also [00:01:41] reports of a possible agreement between Iran and Oman. Pakistan says [00:01:45] that it hopes that the agreement between Iran and Oman on the [00:01:49] Strait of Hormuz will soon lead to the resumption of talks between Washington [00:01:53] and Tehran. Reuters news agency has reported [00:01:56] that the proposed agreement between Iran and Oman allows Tehran [00:02:00] to control the entry of ships into the Persian Gulf. [00:02:04] Iran has announced significant progress in these [00:02:07] talks and says that the route for ships to pass through [00:02:11] Iranian waters will be established. Earlier, [00:02:14] US officials had repeatedly emphasized that they would not [00:02:18] agree to Iran controlling access to this important [00:02:20] energy transit route. Mohammad [00:02:24] Amini, my colleague, is with us here in the [00:02:28] studio. Can you [00:02:38] first explain to us what has been agreed upon between Oman and Iran? Nothing has been finalized yet, but what can be seen [00:02:41] in the reports is [00:02:45] that, as the saying [00:02:47] goes, the main framework of this agreement is that [00:02:51] ships and vessels enter the Strait of [00:02:54] Hormuz from the Iranian side [00:02:57] of the Strait and [00:03:01] with the agreement and coordination of the parties with [00:03:04] Iran, they exit from the Omani [00:03:08] waters. Reuters, as you mentioned, [00:03:11] said that if this happens, [00:03:14] a very big concession will be given to Iran because [00:03:17] I saw that Israeli newspapers also highlighted [00:03:21] that if this happens and the US [00:03:24] practically accepts it, we know [00:03:27] (let me say this in parentheses) we know that Iran says I am only [00:03:31] talking to Oman, negotiating, but there is no [00:03:35] doubt that the Omanis coordinate with the Americans. [00:03:39] What will ultimately come out of this, but what is now [00:03:42] certain is that if Iran controls the entrance [00:03:46] of the Strait of Hormuz, its exit must also [00:03:49] be coordinated with Iran. Practically, [00:03:53] experts say that what Iran wanted regarding controlling [00:03:56] the Strait of Hormuz will be achieved. And what about [00:04:00] the issue of tolls that Iran insisted on, [00:04:04] but the US was not even willing to talk [00:04:08] about it? Marco Rubio, I think, [00:04:11] said most clearly that our problem is that if we [00:04:15] accept this, even voluntarily, the talks that [00:04:18] were held, this will happen, that a, as [00:04:21] the saying goes, a precedent will be set that [00:04:25] did not exist before. Then it might happen in different parts of the world. There are straits [00:04:29] in different parts of the world. [00:04:42] We take it that Mr. Araghchi returned with a humorous tone and said [00:04:45] that we take much less and are more fair, but the numbers [00:04:49] I have seen in writing are that Iran's [00:04:53] request is that between 5 to 7 percent of the value of the cargo [00:04:57] of each vessel be charged as a [00:05:00] fee or whatever name they [00:05:03] put on it. But the Omani [00:05:07] side apparently has a 3 percent figure in mind, [00:05:11] which is a small problem. Let me say in [00:05:14] one sentence, the small problem, meaning a major problem, is that [00:05:18] the Strait of Hormuz management body that Iran created, [00:05:21] the Americans immediately sanctioned it. Now, [00:05:25] the owners of those vessels, if they pay this money, [00:05:29] will be subject to its consequences, sanctions and [00:05:32] secondary sanctions. Thank you, Mohammad [00:05:35] Amini, my colleague here in the studio. [00:05:39] To make a deeper analysis [00:05:42] of these details that we [00:05:45] heard from Mohammad Amini, we are live with Meysam [00:05:49] Moradi, international relations analyst from Copenhagen, [00:05:52] the capital of Denmark. Welcome to the program, Mr. [00:05:56] Moradi. American media, as my colleague [00:05:59] just explained, have interpreted this [00:06:03] as if [00:06:05] such an agreement and understanding between Iran and Oman were [00:06:09] to become a reality and be announced, it would be a big concession [00:06:13] for Iran. In your opinion, in the region, [00:06:16] will it change the balance of power [00:06:19] and give Iran more power? [00:06:22] Thank [00:06:25] you very much for inviting me. Well, the US approach is [00:06:28] to open the Strait of Hormuz in any case. [00:06:31] Now, if Iran claims that [00:06:34] it controls the Strait of Hormuz and [00:06:38] does not create security problems for ships [00:06:41] passing through the strait, I think Americans will be satisfied [00:06:44] with this at this [00:06:47] current juncture. [00:06:50] And for Iran, this can be declared [00:06:54] a victory. But what we hear in the [00:06:57] news is that the specified period is [00:07:00] 60 days for this agreement [00:07:04] or memorandum of understanding that they are talking about. [00:07:08] And we have the experience of the previous memorandum [00:07:12] between the US and Iran that was not implemented [00:07:16] and they could not implement that [00:07:19] understanding that was between them. Regarding whether the balance of [00:07:23] power in the region has changed or will change in general [00:07:26] in the Middle East, Arab countries now, after [00:07:30] the 12-day war, have approaches in mind. For example, [00:07:33] from a political, security, and economic perspective, countries [00:07:37] like the UAE, Bahrain, and Kuwait have [00:07:40] completely adopted an approach. From other countries [00:07:44] like Saudi Arabia, we see that the blocs [00:07:48] that are starting, just today, it was [00:07:52] said that Saudi Arabia is establishing [00:07:55] its own senior command for the alliance [00:07:59] it formed in Bab al-Mandeb. And [00:08:03] we also hear that, for example, the UAE, Kuwait, and even [00:08:06] Bahrain have moved closer to Israel and want [00:08:09] to use their security and military capabilities. [00:08:24] Hormuz brings to the US and the countries of the region, and [00:08:28] the threats it makes to attack their [00:08:31] vital infrastructures, tells us that Iran also wants to [00:08:34] play a role in this new order that they want to implement in the Middle East. [00:08:38] Now it goes back to how countries like Israel [00:08:43] and other powers should react. That is exactly the question [00:08:47] I want to ask you, Mr. Moradi. At the beginning [00:08:50] of your speech, you mentioned that the [00:08:53] US might agree to this, but we know [00:08:56] it has been talked about for months that Mr. [00:09:00] Trump quickly gets bored, and there is a lot [00:09:03] of opposition within the [00:09:07] US, there are severe problems, [00:09:10] etc. and unfair. But [00:09:12] what about other countries, both in the region [00:09:16] and Arab countries in the region, and also [00:09:19] Israel? What will their opinion be about [00:09:23] such an agreement? Well, the countries [00:09:27] of the region, including Iraq, Syria, the UAE, Bahrain, [00:09:30] and Kuwait, have taken a different approach, [00:09:33] and they want to export their oil [00:09:36] through other routes. They have [00:09:39] started, I think, two or three months ago, [00:09:43] and new ports, new oil pipelines, [00:09:45] just a while ago, it was said [00:09:49] that Iraq and Syria have come closer and want to reactivate [00:09:53] the pipelines that they were not using before, and through [00:09:57] that, they want to bypass the Strait of Hormuz [00:10:00] to some extent. I think for [00:10:03] Americans, at this juncture, as they approach the elections, [00:10:07] the US midterm elections, for Donald Trump, [00:10:10] the domestic problems that you mentioned [00:10:13] are important to him, that the Strait of Hormuz [00:10:17] be opened. It is not important to him that [00:10:20] Iran claims to control it. [00:10:24] But during this period, if [00:10:27] he can, for example, keep the price of gasoline [00:10:31] low in the US, if the Republicans can [00:10:34] win the midterm elections, I think for Donald Trump [00:10:38] at this juncture, this is important. [00:10:41] From another perspective, well, countries like Israel, [00:10:45] I think the Israelis' problem cannot be summarized [00:10:49] in the Strait of Hormuz, and naturally, they have [00:10:52] not issued any statement about the Strait of Hormuz. [00:10:58] For example, Iran's nuclear and missile program [00:11:01] and Iran's proxies in the region, and they also work in the [00:11:04] same direction. For example, the preparations they have made [00:11:08] during this period, I think, are in the same direction. Mr. [00:11:11] Moradi, unfortunately, we don't have much time, [00:11:15] but the Egyptian foreign minister said at a meeting in Jordan [00:11:18] that the countries of the region had no role [00:11:22] in the JCPOA agreement that was signed more than 10 years [00:11:26] ago, and he said that one of the reasons for [00:11:29] its failure was this. What role can the countries of the region [00:11:33] play in this new order? Well, [00:11:37] as I said, the countries of the region are not united, [00:11:40] their views differ. The Emiratis have moved closer [00:11:43] to Israel, they work with Israelis, but [00:11:47] Saudi Arabia is different. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, [00:11:51] Turkey, and other countries want to come closer together. [00:12:25] They have come closer to the Israelis and want [00:12:29] to make their military bases, for example, [00:12:32] or their vital infrastructure more resilient. [00:12:34] Thank you, Meysam Moradi, international relations [00:12:38] analyst from Copenhagen. The [00:12:41] US President has denied reports about the depletion [00:12:45] of US arms stockpiles and said that those who publish [00:12:48] such information will face severe penalties. [00:12:52] Earlier, the Washington Post and CNN had reported that shortages [00:12:55] had forced Mr. Trump to cancel the widespread attack [00:12:59] on Iran despite threatening it. Bahman Kolbasi, [00:13:03] my colleague from New York, is with us. [00:13:06] Bahman, first, tell us about these reports [00:13:10] of arms shortages. It seems that it has even [00:13:13] caused a disagreement between Trump and [00:13:16] his Secretary of Defense. Those [00:13:19] reports about the reduction of US arsenals [00:13:23] are about ammunition for long-range [00:13:27] and high-precision missiles and defense [00:13:31] systems. These similar reports have [00:13:34] been published several times in recent weeks. [00:13:37] The latest ones are CNN and [00:13:40] Reuters, but what has attracted attention [00:13:44] today is this Washington Post report that you mentioned, [00:13:48] which says that Mr. Trump on the sidelines of the [00:13:51] cabinet meeting at the presidential retreat on Friday. [00:14:14] And as a result, this is in contradiction with the repeated [00:14:17] claims and denials of the White House and Mr. [00:14:21] Trump himself that there is no shortage and no problem. [00:14:49] have been greatly reduced, some have ended. [00:14:53] Rather, the replacement process is not [00:14:56] a fast process. It may take [00:15:00] weeks, excuse me, months, or even years [00:15:04] to replace this number of missiles and defense [00:15:08] systems that have been consumed. But Bahman, if [00:15:11] we want to talk about [00:15:15] these developments between Iran and Oman, [00:15:18] have there been any reactions [00:15:21] in the US or comments about [00:15:25] this agreement between Iran and Oman? Mr. [00:15:28] Trump himself made a statement today and very [00:15:32] optimistically said that things are going very well. [00:15:35] His deputy, Mr. Vance, spoke with a little more [00:15:39] caution and said in an interview with Fox News [00:15:43] that sometimes these talks with the Iranian side [00:15:46] are three steps forward, two steps back. There are some [00:15:49] progress, but the Iranian side, the officials of the Islamic Republic, [00:15:53] are very difficult people to negotiate with. This is [00:15:57] what Mr. Vance said, and he also emphasized [00:16:01] that some in the system of the Islamic Republic want the war to end and to [00:16:04] reach an agreement, while some are extremists and crazy and want to continue [00:16:08] the war. But in any case, Mr. Vance [00:16:11] also tried to give an impression that these direct [00:16:15] and indirect talks and efforts will eventually reach [00:16:18] a desirable conclusion and the issue will be settled. [00:16:22] But what is in the American media is more questioning [00:16:25] and, in fact, an investigation into whether what [00:16:29] is being discussed in the details of the [00:16:32] Tehran-Oman agreement and may be achieved, can the US [00:16:36] accept it? And if it accepts it, will [00:16:39] this be a strategic defeat for the US? Because based [00:16:43] on what we heard, Iran will have significant [00:16:46] control over the Strait of Hormuz if what they are discussing [00:16:50] is approved by Washington. Thank you, Bahman [00:16:53] Kolbasi, my colleague from New York. We [00:16:57] also have Hooshang Hassaniari, military affairs analyst [00:17:01] from Kingston, Canada, [00:17:03] with us. Welcome to the program. Greetings to you, Mr. Hassan. [00:17:10] Of course, now I hear from my colleagues [00:17:13] that our connection is not yet fully established. We want to talk [00:17:16] with Mr. Hassaniari, who is a military affairs analyst, [00:17:19] about these reports of the depletion [00:17:22] of US arsenals. As my [00:17:25] colleague Bahman Kolbasi said, from [00:17:29] the very first weeks or months [00:17:32] of the conflict and war between the US and Israel [00:17:35] and Iran, reports were being made. But in recent [00:17:39] weeks, these reports have intensified because it is [00:17:43] said that the reason why Donald Trump keeps [00:17:47] threatening Iran with attacking infrastructure and power [00:17:50] plants and then backs down is that weapons [00:17:53] and arsenals have been greatly reduced. [00:17:57] Mr. Hassaniari, I hope you are connected [00:18:00] to the program now. Military affairs analyst from [00:18:04] Kingston, Canada. Mr. [00:18:06] Hassaniari, how do you see the military power [00:18:10] of the US today compared [00:18:13] to five months ago and before the start of the 40-day war? [00:18:15] Greetings to you and greetings to the noble, [00:18:19] brave, and history-making people of Iran. Look, the war that is happening [00:18:22] causes a lot of [00:18:26] ammunition to be used [00:18:30] by both sides, both by the Americans [00:18:33] and by the Revolutionary Guard. As a result, [00:18:36] this is a natural thing that happens in war. [00:18:39] What is important is [00:18:41] that you mentioned [00:18:44] earlier the reports that various [00:18:48] media have published in this regard. [00:18:50] The impact [00:18:53] of the shortage, or the fact that [00:18:56] it does not exist today to the extent it did in the past, [00:19:00] can be seen, but this impact is [00:19:02] not strategic on operations. This means [00:19:06] that the US can, for example, [00:19:10] instead of using Tomahawks, well, [00:19:13] use airplanes, fighter jets, and bombers, [00:19:17] which use other weapons [00:19:20] or ammunition. Therefore, in this [00:19:23] particular case, there is no essential [00:19:27] issue that would affect the course [00:19:30] of the war. On the other hand, it should be noted [00:19:33] that this shortage exists for very [00:19:36] obvious reasons. One is that this war itself [00:19:40] is prolonging. Second is the [00:19:43] supply of Ukraine's needs. Third is [00:19:46] the supply of the needs of US military partners around [00:19:50] the world, which in turn affects US ammunition [00:19:54] stockpiles. It also affects this, [00:19:58] but that effect will not be in [00:20:01] the sense of preventing US strategic [00:20:03] operations. Well, if it is correct [00:20:37] that the allies of the US, its partners, [00:20:41] both in Europe and in the region, create [00:20:44] problems, then if [00:20:47] the ammunition stockpiles or purchases of [00:20:50] these allied countries of the US [00:20:53] are not sufficient to be able [00:20:56] to use this ammunition [00:21:00] in case of need [00:21:02] in a war, either with the Islamic Republic or [00:21:06] in another war, or their use against [00:21:09] the terrorist groups of the Islamic Republic in the [00:21:12] region, then it can better affect [00:21:16] the course of the war in those countries. But what is very important [00:21:32] is that Americans usually, throughout their history, have shown that they turn these problems into a kind [00:21:36] of success in the end. This means that, [00:21:39] well, we saw that since this issue [00:21:42] arose, over the past few days, [00:21:45] a lot of pressure has been put on various [00:21:49] companies, various companies that are producers [00:21:53] of these munitions. Although it takes time to produce [00:21:56] some of these munitions, more [00:22:00] companies have been added to the existing [00:22:03] companies to speed up [00:22:07] the production of these munitions. Regarding [00:22:10] THAAD and Patriots that you correctly mentioned, [00:22:14] these need missiles to intercept [00:22:17] missiles of the Islamic Republic, [00:22:21] especially the important [00:22:22] ballistic [00:22:25] missiles of the Islamic Republic, [00:22:28] to intercept them. If there is a need [00:22:32] in this area for more use, [00:22:36] then there is talk of a shortage. [00:22:39] But we saw that during this [00:22:42] period, in the 12-day war, Israel was [00:22:46] with the Islamic Republic for 39 days, and then [00:22:50] the war continued for a while between US [00:22:53] forces and the Islamic Republic. At that [00:22:56] time, what was important was [00:23:00] that we saw the US replaces [00:23:03] the needs that were previously used. [00:23:07] For example, so far, there has [00:23:10] not been much use of strategic [00:23:13] bombers by the Americans, or [00:23:17] of F- 35s. [00:23:24] These have capabilities that, in the [00:23:27] absence of an air defense system [00:23:31] of the Islamic Republic, can be used more. [00:23:34] Thank you, Hooshang Hassaniari, military affairs [00:23:38] analyst. [00:23:44] The Iran Human Rights Organization reported that at least [00:23:47] 71 people were executed last month in Iran. The report [00:23:51] states that 36 people were executed for murder, 26 for drug-related [00:23:55] crimes, 8 for security charges, and one [00:23:59] person for rape. Six of those executed [00:24:02] this month were defendants in protests. This organization [00:24:05] has recorded the execution of at least [00:24:08] 44 people in the first 7 months of this year. [00:24:12] Meanwhile, UN experts today called on the officials [00:24:15] of the Islamic Republic to stop the increasing trend [00:24:19] of arbitrary arrests, disappearances, torture, and other [00:24:22] forms of ill-treatment, as well as arbitrary [00:24:26] executions against ethnic minorities, especially Kurdish [00:24:29] and Baloch minorities. Earlier, Mahmoud Amiri [00:24:32] Moghadam, the director of the Iran Human Rights Organization, [00:24:35] spoke about the details of this report. In the [00:24:38] first three weeks [00:24:40] of the war, a relatively small [00:24:44] number of executions was reported, and immediately [00:24:47] after that, the execution [00:24:50] of protesters and political prisoners began, and it seems [00:24:54] that the system is returning to its normal [00:24:57] routine, meaning that we have executions [00:25:00] of drug defendants, those [00:25:03] accused of murder. More than one person [00:25:06] is executed per day on these charges, [00:25:10] and at the same time, the execution of protesters continues, [00:25:14] and we think this is due to the low [00:25:18] cost of these executions, because all the [00:25:22] attention of the international community, especially the countries [00:25:25] that have diplomatic relations with the Islamic Republic, [00:25:29] is on the war, and the Islamic Republic [00:25:33] uses this. The United Nations can issue statements, [00:25:36] condemn, request, but what is important [00:25:39] is that member states of the United Nations, [00:25:43] especially European countries, react. I think [00:25:46] the Islamic Republic currently [00:25:50] tends to improve its relations with [00:25:54] European countries, and in this situation, Western [00:25:57] European governments, in particular, can put more pressure [00:26:01] on the Islamic Republic to stop executions. [00:26:04] And as I said, [00:26:06] unfortunately, in the past few months, [00:26:10] this has not been the case. We remember [00:26:14] that after the Woman, Life, Freedom protests, [00:26:17] for every protester who was executed, the European [00:26:20] Union condemned and reacted strongly. [00:26:24] But now, in the past few months, 28 [00:26:28] protesters have been executed, 13 [00:26:30] political prisoners, 10 people for espionage, [00:26:34] but we have not seen such reactions. [00:26:38] Mahmoud Amiri Moghadam was the head of the Iran [00:26:41] Human Rights Organization. At the end of this program, [00:26:45] thank you for listening to BBC [00:26:49] Persian Radio. Thank you for choosing [00:26:52] us. I am Mina Joshghani, and the producer of this [00:26:56] program is Soheil Nazemi. We wish you all a good day and [00:26:59] time. [00:30:24] Control of strategic waterways is currently considered the most [00:30:27] important deterrent tool for Iran, and [00:30:31] the importance of the Houthis in such a strategy [00:30:35] has become a question that has engaged many. [00:30:38] To what extent can Tehran control them? [00:31:00] Good day.