BBCPERSIAN — broadcast 20260808 153000 UTC 460 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:26] The news was stolen, I want to say let's fight. That's it. [00:00:40] Pezeshkian's defense of negotiations to achieve a desired agreement. [00:00:43] Iran says the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz [00:00:46] requires acceptance of its conditions [00:00:48] by America. [00:00:51] Reports of the US Army Chief of Staff's warning to Trump's advisors, Dunken, [00:00:54] who said that a way out of the war with Iran must be [00:00:58] found. The latest Houthi attacks in [00:01:02] Yemen killed at least two civilians and eight soldiers of the government [00:01:06] supported by Saudi Arabia. Environmental concerns [00:01:09] due to the closure of the [00:01:12] Strait of Hormuz. Accumulation of invasive [00:01:16] aquatic species threatens shipping and [00:01:19] marine ecosystems. [00:01:21] Hello and welcome to this news section on [00:01:39] Saturday, August 8, 2026, from BBC [00:01:42] Persian with me, Faran Aasemi. While American officials say [00:01:46] the agreement between Iran and Oman to reopen the Strait of Hormuz [00:01:49] is close, Tehran emphasizes that the reopening of this waterway [00:01:53] is conditional on the acceptance of its [00:01:56] conditions by America. Iran's Foreign Minister, Abbas Araghchi, [00:02:00] said that Tehran and Muscat have reached an agreement on a new [00:02:04] shipping route, but the reopening of this [00:02:07] waterway requires other conditions, including compensation [00:02:11] for violations of the Islamabad memorandum [00:02:14] by America. Meanwhile, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian has defended [00:02:18] negotiations with America to achieve a desired [00:02:21] agreement. Kasra Naji reports. [00:02:24] Images of American forces disembarking [00:02:28] on an Iranian oil tanker in the Gulf of Oman. [00:02:31] America says that if an agreement is reached between Iran and [00:02:35] Oman, the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz will end [00:02:38] Iran's naval blockade. However, the Iranian [00:02:41] side apparently is not in a hurry. The reopening [00:02:45] of the Strait of Hormuz has its own specific mechanism [00:02:49] and has no connection to the negotiations between Iran [00:02:52] and Oman. The Strait of Hormuz, as [00:02:56] the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, is actually subject to [00:03:00] conditions that the Islamic Republic [00:03:04] will open based on those conditions, and that [00:03:07] also depends on the extent of America's [00:03:10] acceptance of the conditions that the Islamic Republic of Iran [00:03:14] sets. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz is something that [00:03:18] hardliners in Iran welcome, despite the increased risk of [00:03:21] renewed war, something that has largely tied the government's [00:03:25] hands for negotiation and ending it. [00:03:28] In order for us to be able to stay, we need to know [00:03:32] what we are doing. When do we want to fight? When do we [00:03:35] want to make peace? When do we want him [00:03:39] to do his work and I do mine? No war, [00:03:42] China and America are friends. [00:03:45] America's biggest enemy is China. [00:03:47] Why aren't they fighting? Look, these days, hardliners are openly [00:03:50] criticizing the President and his decision [00:03:53] to sign a memorandum to end the war with [00:03:57] America. In the Strait, [00:04:11] so to speak, we started a military confrontation with ships that had passed illegally. [00:04:14] They come and announce that these are all traitors. They [00:04:18] have not acted at all. We have a president who is an idiot [00:04:21] and understands nothing. May God punish the Guardian Council [00:04:25] for preparing such a mess for me, and may God curse the person [00:04:28] who is in charge. [00:04:35] The art is that the Iranian President, who has apparently lost hope [00:04:39] in state television to deliver his message to the people, [00:04:42] today, on Journalists' Day, asked journalists for help. [00:04:45] Now your help in creating unity and cohesion [00:04:49] internally is very important. [00:04:52] The lack of national cohesion is now a source of concern [00:04:56] for many in Iran, including here in [00:05:00] Bahar in southeastern Iran, which in recent [00:05:03] months has been on the front lines of the war with America. [00:05:07] Concerns about divisions that could [00:05:10] lead the country to more wars. [00:05:14] Hamid Nikoo, an Iranian foreign policy [00:05:19] analyst from Cologne, Germany, is with us. Mr. Nikoo, [00:05:23] the IRGC spokesperson said that the opening of the Strait of Hormuz [00:05:26] has nothing to do with these negotiations and it is the conditions of the Islamic Republic itself [00:05:29] that are supposed to be decisive. Given this, how close is the agreement? [00:05:33] We constantly hear from various officials that the agreement [00:05:37] is close. Greetings to you and dear viewers. [00:05:39] Look, simultaneously with the statements [00:05:43] of political officials, including Mr. Pezeshkian, [00:05:47] who emphasizes the achievements of negotiations, [00:05:50] we are witnessing that military and security officials, [00:05:54] for example, the spokesperson for the system, Sardar [00:05:58] Mohebi, and also Zulfiqar, the head of the Supreme National [00:06:02] Security Council, we see a division of labor between them, and even [00:06:06] Mr. Araghchi, for example, Mr. [00:06:09] Mohebi emphasizes that Iran's political [00:06:13] will determines whether the Strait of Hormuz [00:06:15] remains open or closed. Mr. Araghchi also [00:06:19] covers this in a diplomatic way and says that [00:06:22] the issue of negotiations between Iran and Oman [00:06:26] for the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz [00:06:30] is separate from the issue of [00:06:33] America's adherence to the terms of the memorandum [00:06:36] and not violating its provisions, in which case America [00:06:40] itself can be decisive by adhering [00:06:44] to the provisions of the memorandum and not violating [00:06:47] its provisions so that [00:06:50] Iran also receives [00:06:53] a positive [00:06:56] signal to finally reach an agreement [00:06:59] and begin negotiations with [00:07:03] America in a confidence-building process. Mr. Pezeshkian [00:07:06] spoke about the need to obtain our rights through [00:07:10] dialogue rather than war. How much can a rapprochement [00:07:14] towards an agreement reassure the faction within Iran [00:07:17] that opposes the agreement and satisfy them? [00:07:21] Look, from the perspective of Mr. [00:07:24] Pezeshkian's [00:07:28] government, this negotiation [00:07:30] is a form of assistance to the battlefield, [00:07:34] meaning that diplomacy and the battlefield [00:07:37] can achieve success together. [00:07:41] However, in a way, the so-called radical [00:07:44] movement emphasizes that the American [00:07:48] side is not trustworthy and tries to gain [00:07:52] concessions from the Iranian side through negotiations. [00:07:56] These so-called radical currents emphasize [00:07:59] that if we exclusively proceed through [00:08:02] negotiations and do not show [00:08:05] our pressure leverage and military power, [00:08:09] and do not maintain our threat tools, including [00:08:13] the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, this will lead to erosion. [00:08:16] At the same time, what can be reassuring for the radical side [00:08:20] is that America gives at least [00:08:23] a positive response on the issue of the Strait of Hormuz [00:08:26] and a final agreement with Iran is reached, [00:08:30] and Iran can at least [00:08:33] spend a period of a year, for example, [00:08:37] without tension and war. [00:08:40] What is clear [00:08:51] from Mr. Pezeshkian's statements and what [00:08:54] Donald Trump has repeatedly talked about is that there are several [00:08:58] factions within the Islamic Republic, and these [00:09:01] factions disagree with each other and there is [00:09:05] no unified voice. How much can these [00:09:08] internal differences affect the course of [00:09:12] the agreement and possibly further negotiations? Look, [00:09:16] right now, we are witnessing internal conflicts, meaning [00:09:19] that Iran's foreign policy has been greatly affected [00:09:23] by pressure on the Foreign Ministry and pressure [00:09:26] on Iran's diplomatic approach. Why? [00:09:29] Because the hardline faction says that [00:09:32] you pursued the negotiation [00:09:35] strategy, but the result was a 12-day [00:09:38] war, a 40-day war, and a nearly [00:09:42] two-week war that was imposed on Iran. And they say [00:09:45] that as long as we send [00:09:48] positive signals and show that the situation in the Strait [00:09:51] of Hormuz is calm, Americans will try [00:09:55] to control the price of oil and [00:09:57] energy during this period of [00:10:01] calm. They will replenish [00:10:04] their strategic ammunition reserves [00:10:08] and their military arsenal, [00:10:11] and then attack us again. Therefore, the Islamic Republic [00:10:15] is indeed in a difficult situation regarding its [00:10:18] military-diplomatic approach towards [00:10:21] America. However, [00:10:25] at the same time, there is a [00:10:28] grand strategy governing the Islamic Republic, [00:10:32] which we saw today, that there is this overlap [00:10:35] between the diplomatic apparatus, the political apparatus, [00:10:39] and the military-security apparatus, which are [00:10:43] the IRGC and the Supreme National Security Council. Thank [00:10:47] you very much, Hamid Nikoo, Iranian foreign policy analyst [00:10:50] from Germany. At least two civilians were killed [00:10:54] in Houthi attacks on the city of Ma'rib in Yemen. The Houthis [00:10:58] announced that they targeted military installations and [00:11:01] forces supported by Saudi Arabia. According to a [00:11:05] Yemeni military official, eight Yemeni government soldiers [00:11:09] were also killed in this attack. Yesterday, the Houthis [00:11:12] killed Yemeni government soldiers in the provinces of Ma'rib [00:11:15] and Hadramout. The Houthis also control Sana'a, the capital [00:11:19] of Yemen, to the west of Ma'rib. An hour ago, I asked [00:11:23] Ali Sadrazadeh, a political analyst of Middle Eastern affairs, [00:11:27] about the course of the Houthi conflict with Saudi Arabia [00:11:30] and its allies in Yemen. Some sources say that [00:11:34] basically Saudi Arabia feels a particular [00:11:38] sense of insecurity from the Houthis [00:11:41] in Yemen and from [00:11:44] the Houthis and the Popular Mobilization Forces jointly [00:11:47] from Iraq, because the Houthis have a center in Iraq, [00:11:51] their office is a very large office [00:11:55] in the Green Zone of Iraq, [00:11:57] and [00:12:00] from there their relationship with both the Popular Mobilization [00:12:04] Forces and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps takes [00:12:07] place, and even [00:12:11] the last attack that took [00:12:14] place was apparently from Iraqi soil, meaning [00:12:17] in fact from the Houthis [00:12:21] who are in Iraq and the Popular Mobilization Forces who are in Iraq, and from Saudi Arabia. [00:12:38] Saudi Arabia, between Pakistan, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia, is actually [00:12:42] a response or a shield for [00:12:45] this insecurity that Saudi [00:12:48] Arabia feels. That was Ali [00:12:51] Sadrazadeh, a Middle East affairs analyst. However, CNN [00:12:54] reported that Dunford, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs [00:12:58] of Staff, privately told senior advisors to Donald Trump [00:13:02] that the US must find a way to exit the war with Iran [00:13:05] because the military options available to escalate the conflict [00:13:09] could backfire. According to him, it is unlikely [00:13:13] that relying solely on air power will achieve Mr. Trump's [00:13:16] stated goals. General Dunford also [00:13:20] shared his concerns with other key cabinet officials, [00:13:23] including the CIA [00:13:26] Director, the Secretary of State, and the Vice President. Our reporter [00:13:30] Shida Hooshmandi joined us from Washington. Shida, what [00:13:34] exactly are the concerns that General Kin raises? [00:13:36] Specifically, the most important one is the limitation [00:13:40] that exists in air strikes. [00:13:43] Mr. Kin points out that these air strikes [00:13:47] are effective up to a certain point. They don't necessarily [00:13:50] lead Washington to the strategic [00:13:53] and political goals it has. Mr. Trump's [00:13:56] goal is that through these air strikes, he can [00:14:00] put the Iranian government in a situation where it agrees to [00:14:04] an agreement that Washington is also satisfied with. So far, [00:14:08] he has not been successful, and General Kin believes [00:14:11] that continuing such a trend could also have [00:14:15] a counterproductive result. Similarly, as CNN reports, [00:14:18] there is a search for a way out, [00:14:22] an option that perhaps [00:14:26] could be considered a symbolic victory for Mr. Trump, [00:14:29] and at the same time, the path of diplomacy remains open, [00:14:33] and that the Strait of Hormuz [00:14:36] traffic is resumed. This [00:14:39] could be a breakthrough in this direction. [00:14:43] But the concern that is raised is [00:14:46] that if these air strikes continue, [00:14:50] they probably won't achieve those strategic goals. [00:14:53] Some people, including Mr. Kin, believe [00:14:57] that if America truly wants to achieve those political [00:15:01] and strategic goals, it must launch a full-scale [00:15:05] ground attack, which, of course, has its own high costs. [00:15:09] At the same time, he raises concerns about [00:15:12] the reduction of America's [00:15:15] strategic ammunition reserves, which is also [00:15:18] an issue that could become challenging for America in the long run. [00:15:22] Perhaps this issue of the shortage of [00:15:26] US military reserves can affect the war with [00:15:29] Iran? [00:15:32] In the short term, it is unlikely that, [00:15:35] as estimated, it will have any particular impact. But if the war [00:15:39] continues and, as it were, [00:15:42] becomes protracted, it could create problems [00:15:45] for America, in that the shortage of these strategic [00:15:49] reserves could create a challenge [00:15:52] if America becomes involved in another [00:15:56] war elsewhere. In the past five years, after all, not only in the war [00:16:00] with Iran, but in various parts of the world, even [00:16:03] during the Biden administration in the war with the Houthis, [00:16:06] these reserves were used. And replacing [00:16:09] them, from the point of ordering, signing a contract, [00:16:13] until delivery, takes two to four years. [00:16:16] Therefore, this time [00:16:20] is not in America's favor in the meantime, and this is where a challenge [00:16:24] will be created for America if, for example, a more [00:16:27] severe conflict with Russia arises, or if a military [00:16:31] confrontation with China occurs. Then America will face [00:16:35] a major challenge. And for this reason, [00:16:38] General Kin and many other American military [00:16:42] officials are concerned about [00:16:45] this reduction in strategic reserves. Not necessarily [00:16:49] in the war with Iran at this moment that we are speaking, but [00:16:53] in the long term, this concern is raised. On the other hand, [00:16:56] the more this issue is discussed and the more it becomes clear [00:17:00] how important these strategic reserves are, the more limited [00:17:03] Mr. Trump's political power to maneuver in the Iran [00:17:07] war becomes. Thank you very much to Shida Hooshmandi, our reporter [00:17:11] in Washington. Let's take a look at a few [00:17:14] brief news items. Iranian media reported [00:17:18] the abduction and murder of Hamidreza Rajabzadeh, a religious [00:17:22] eulogist. According to these reports, a picture of the moment of Mr. Rajabzadeh's [00:17:26] murder was sent to his family more than two weeks after he went missing. [00:17:29] A video has also been published on social media [00:17:33] showing a person resembling Mr. Rajabzadeh on the ground [00:17:37] and appearing to be bleeding. Some sources close to the government [00:17:41] attributed this murder to Israeli agents. [00:17:44] Tasnim News Agency reported that four people were arrested [00:17:48] for their involvement in his murder. Reza Valizadeh, [00:17:50] a former Radio Farda [00:17:52] correspondent, reported from inside Evin Prison [00:17:56] about the poor health and sanitary conditions [00:18:00] in that prison. In the audio file that CBS [00:18:03] published from this Iranian-American citizen, he says [00:18:07] that in the past five months, he has not been allowed [00:18:10] to meet with his family. Mr. Valizadeh, who has been imprisoned [00:18:14] for about two years, expressed concern about [00:18:17] the possibility of contracting tuberculosis due to [00:18:21] a lack of medical care. This journalist returned to [00:18:24] Iran in the winter of 2023 after 13 years of residence [00:18:28] in France and the Czech Republic. He was sentenced to 10 years [00:18:32] in prison for collaborating with the US government. [00:18:36] In a late-night session of the US Senate, senators [00:18:39] narrowly confirmed the appointment of Tat Blanche, a former [00:18:43] lawyer for the President, as Attorney General. Mr. Blanche, [00:18:47] who has been serving as interim Attorney General for four months, [00:18:50] received 50 affirmative votes against [00:18:54] 49 negative votes. This vote followed weeks of [00:18:58] uncertainty and the withdrawal of several Republican senators [00:19:01] from opposing him. Republicans constitute the majority [00:19:05] in the Senate. Democrats say they are concerned [00:19:09] about further weakening the independence of the Justice [00:19:12] Department at the hands of Donald Trump. [00:19:16] FIFA says its president strongly denies the claim [00:19:19] that he paid money to a woman who was allegedly his mistress [00:19:23] during his time as UEFA president. A FIFA spokesman denied [00:19:26] the claim about Gianni Infantino, which was published by the Daily [00:19:30] Telegraph. UEFA confirmed that the woman was paid [00:19:33] a sum for ending her collaboration with the body [00:19:37] and for a master's degree in business management. [00:19:41] FIFA said that this action was in accordance with the [00:19:45] regulations at that time. FIFA and UEFA are at odds [00:19:48] over Gianni Infantino's scrapped plan to sell shares [00:19:52] in World Cup tournaments and other competitions. [00:19:55] Scientists and researchers [00:19:58] are reporting a major environmental threat [00:20:02] that, with the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, [00:20:06] threatens the ecosystem of the Persian Gulf, the Gulf of Oman, [00:20:10] and other parts of the world. According to them, [00:20:13] invasive aquatic species cling to the hull of [00:20:16] every ship that remains motionless in the water, [00:20:20] which are not only difficult to clean but also destroy [00:20:24] other marine species and cause immense damage to [00:20:27] the ship itself and the shipping industry. Siavash Ardalan reports. [00:20:30] In the midst of the Iran-US war over control of the Strait [00:20:34] of Hormuz, a common and silent enemy [00:20:37] is being created beneath these waters. The closure [00:20:41] of the Strait of Hormuz means the stoppage and immobilization [00:20:44] of hundreds of ships in the region's waters, [00:20:48] and this is a hotbed for the growth and spread of [00:20:52] invasive species that cling to ship hulls. [00:20:55] In the shipping industry, these organisms are known [00:20:57] as biofouling or bioaccumulators. [00:21:01] A costly nuisance for shipping, [00:21:03] both commercial, recreational, and military. The journal [00:21:07] Biological Invasions, in its research, has described [00:21:10] this issue as a huge threat to global [00:21:14] biological security. Where is the problem? [00:21:18] Bioaccumulators are not just harmless [00:21:22] invertebrate species that are easily removed from a ship's hull. [00:21:25] When these organisms settle on a ship's surface, [00:21:29] they will multiply rapidly and turn every [00:21:32] ship into a carrier of various microbes [00:21:36] and bacteria that can destroy [00:21:39] indigenous species in any region. When these [00:21:42] invasive species, such as black mussels, [00:21:46] microscopic algae, and marine barnacles, [00:21:50] detach from the ship's body, they quickly dominate [00:21:54] the ecosystem, crowding out other species. With the [00:21:58] long-term stagnation of ships in the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman, [00:22:01] the primary danger is to the ecosystem of these [00:22:05] waters, and when these ships come from other regions [00:22:08] of the world, they bring the same disaster to [00:22:11] other ecosystems. However, this is not just an [00:22:15] environmental issue. The shipping industry spends [00:22:18] 30 to 50 billion dollars annually to combat [00:22:21] marine bioaccumulators. These invasive [00:22:24] species not only damage ship engines, [00:22:28] but also cause ships to consume up to 40% [00:22:31] more fuel for propulsion, and greater fuel [00:22:35] consumption means more water and atmospheric pollution [00:22:39] and greater accumulation of greenhouse gases. Other [00:22:42] costs are related to cleaning the ship hull surface. [00:22:45] This cleaning requires toxic biocides. [00:22:49] Efforts are made to prevent these toxins, along [00:22:52] with ship paint, from entering the water during cleaning. [00:22:56] In the ports of the Persian Gulf, like many [00:22:59] other ports around the world, these wastes are not [00:23:02] collected. Perhaps with new agreements [00:23:06] between the countries involved in the war, ships will soon [00:23:09] start moving. But the consequences of their [00:23:12] immobility have not been without cost. A portion [00:23:15] of the fees that Iran and Oman seek to collect from shipping [00:23:18] traffic will be spent on addressing environmental [00:23:22] issues in the region's waters. Siavash [00:23:26] Ardalan, BBC. Siavash is here in the studio with me. [00:23:28] Siavash, how serious is this issue? How serious [00:23:32] is the danger? Well, anyone who works in the shipping industry [00:23:35] or has expertise in this field will say that this issue has [00:23:39] always existed. When modern shipping [00:23:42] became prevalent in the world, [00:23:46] we have the issue of the accumulation of these invasive species on ship hulls. [00:23:50] We had this problem, and it's an issue that currently costs [00:23:53] between 30 and 50 billion dollars annually worldwide [00:23:57] to combat, meaning it's not a low-cost [00:24:01] issue. But now, the closure of the Strait [00:24:04] of Hormuz and the gathering of so many ships [00:24:07] has exacerbated this issue, and it has greatly expanded [00:24:11] the dimensions of a problem that is always associated [00:24:14] with the Iranian shipping industry. Researchers and scientists [00:24:18] have now published an article in a journal called [00:24:22] Biological Invasions. Several countries around the world [00:24:25] also said that, yes, all ships have these problems, [00:24:29] but when you gather close to 1500 ships [00:24:32] in one area in hot weather, these invasive marine [00:24:36] species immediately cling to the ship hulls because [00:24:40] the seabed is usually sandy, and they can't cling there. [00:24:43] So they quickly look for a hard surface, [00:24:47] and as soon as they cling to these ships, they multiply, [00:24:50] reproduce, and grow very quickly. They themselves turn into separate [00:24:54] organisms filled with microbes and bacteria [00:24:57] that, when they enter the sea, destroy other local species. [00:25:01] Therefore, the first danger is to the ecosystem [00:25:04] of the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman, [00:25:07] which are affected by these hundreds of ships [00:25:11] that are now covered in algae, mussels, and [00:25:14] very invasive and dangerous species that have entered [00:25:18] the ecosystem. And then, as researchers have stated, [00:25:22] when these ships move to other parts of the world, [00:25:25] to other ports and oceans of the world, they are carriers [00:25:29] of these microbes and bacteria, and then they transmit them [00:25:32] and destroy the ecosystems there. This is only the environmental [00:25:35] aspect, separate from the fact that these things damage [00:25:39] the ship's engine, causing huge costs for engine repairs. [00:25:43] When you want to clean the ship's hull, you use a lot of water. [00:25:46] If this paint accumulates, the paint itself is a problem. [00:25:50] If these enter the water, they are considered waste. [00:25:54] And if you want to prevent them from clinging, you have [00:25:57] to apply certain substances that are also toxic, but [00:26:01] if a ship remains stopped for a long time, it won't help much. [00:26:05] Siavash, with all that you said, have any measures been taken? [00:26:08] If you could tell us briefly. Researchers themselves have [00:26:12] given some suggestions about what can be done. First [00:26:16] of all, they said the best thing is for these ships to clean [00:26:19] their hulls at their origin, here in the Persian Gulf, [00:26:23] and then move towards their destination. But most [00:26:26] of them are in a hurry to move and leave the strait, [00:26:30] so it's not possible. They should report [00:26:34] how much of these wastes, how much of this ecosystem, [00:26:37] and these algae have clung to them so that when they [00:26:41] reach their destination, they can immediately clean them [00:26:45] and budget how much money they need. This is in [00:26:48] relation to this specific issue. But generally, [00:26:52] regarding what can be done about this issue, scientists [00:26:56] have done some things. For example, one of the latest solutions [00:27:00] is to use shark skin, [00:27:12] because sharks, you know, nothing can cling to them. [00:27:16] They want to attach a material similar to shark skin to [00:27:19] ships so that these liquids will just slide off. [00:27:23] here with me in the studio, these days, marketing managers [00:27:26] are trying every new way to attract attention, [00:27:29] like such advertisements. A man in Los Angeles [00:27:33] lives in a living room built inside an advertising [00:27:36] billboard. This is part of a promotional campaign [00:27:40] for a new science fiction film on Netflix [00:27:43] called "The Last House." This structure is about [00:30:32] he supported them. When we go back to his views on Israel [00:30:36] and Palestine, we see that he turns into a German [00:30:40] for whom the Holocaust is a red line. Only. A red line. [00:30:43] And now on BBC Persian TV, given? [00:30:47] Let's look at Ukraine and see [00:30:50] if what they say was a mistake, was indeed a mistake. If [00:30:54] we look at the multi-layered conflict between Iran and Ukraine after defense systems change [00:30:57] the targeting of an Iranian ship in the Caspian Sea, two [00:31:01] powerful