BBCPERSIAN — broadcast 20260808 223000 UTC 443 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:30] Hormuz, at the same time as new attacks on ships, [00:00:33] Tehran says that the prerequisite for reopening this waterway [00:00:37] is America's acceptance [00:00:38] of its conditions. [00:00:41] Reports of the US Army Chief of Staff's warning to [00:00:45] Trump's advisors. Milley said that a way [00:00:48] must be found to exit the war with Iran. [00:00:51] The pressure of war, sanctions, and [00:00:53] naval blockade on Iran's [00:00:57] dilapidated economy. Pezeshkian says the ways of importing [00:01:00] goods have been closed. High prices are a real thing. [00:01:03] They closed our way. We used to bring it [00:01:06] cheaply. We used to bring it through an easy route. Now [00:01:10] we have to turn around and bring it into the country [00:01:13] through different ways. [00:01:16] Environmental concerns about the Strait of Hormuz [00:01:19] remaining closed. Accumulation of invasive aquatic species [00:01:23] threatens shipping and marine ecosystems. Hello and welcome [00:01:25] to this news program. [00:01:44] I am Farnoud Amerishahi. While American officials say [00:01:48] that an agreement between Iran and Oman for [00:01:51] reopening the Strait of Hormuz is near, Tehran [00:01:55] insists that the reopening of this waterway is conditional [00:01:58] on America accepting its terms. [00:02:01] The Iranian Foreign Minister said that Tehran and Muscat [00:02:04] have reached an agreement on a new shipping [00:02:08] route, but the reopening of this waterway requires [00:02:11] other conditions, including compensation for violations [00:02:15] of the Islamabad agreement by America. Meanwhile, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian [00:02:19] has defended negotiations with the US to reach [00:02:22] a favorable agreement. Kasra Naji reports. [00:02:25] Images [00:02:28] of American forces disembarking [00:02:30] on an Iranian oil tanker in the Sea of Oman. [00:02:34] The US says that if an agreement is reached between Iran and Oman, [00:02:37] the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz will end [00:02:41] Iran's naval blockade. But the Iranian side apparently [00:02:45] is not in a hurry. The reopening of the Strait [00:02:47] of Hormuz has its own specific mechanism [00:02:51] and has no relation to the negotiations between Iran [00:02:54] and Oman. The Strait of Hormuz, as the opening [00:02:58] of the Strait of Hormuz, is in fact subject to conditions [00:03:02] that the Islamic Republic will open based [00:03:05] on those conditions, and that also [00:03:08] depends on the extent of America's [00:03:11] acceptance of the conditions that the Islamic Republic [00:03:15] of Iran sets. Today an Emirati ship [00:03:19] was targeted here in the Strait of Hormuz, something that fuels [00:03:23] the war. An action that hardliners welcome. [00:03:26] Something that ties the government's hands for negotiation and [00:03:57] his decision to sign a memorandum of understanding [00:04:00] to end the war with the US. They criticize [00:04:04] with harsh words: "We have a president who has no understanding, [00:04:08] may God know what to do with the Guardian Council, who approved such [00:04:11] a disaster. And may God curse that wicked, accursed Marandi [00:04:15] who crammed this into the throats of our nation. [00:04:19] What did we give to America? We had many achievements. [00:04:22] Why do you give the people false information?" The skill [00:04:26] is that the President of Iran, who apparently has given up hope [00:04:30] on using state television to convey his message to the people, [00:04:34] today, on Journalists' Day, asked journalists for help [00:04:37] on how to convey a message, how to give a message, [00:04:41] how to create an atmosphere where unity and cohesion [00:04:44] can be formed within the country. That is [00:04:47] your skill. The lack of national cohesion [00:04:50] is now a source of concern for many in Iran, including here [00:04:54] in Chabahar, in southeastern Iran, which in recent [00:04:58] months has been on the front line of the war with the US. [00:05:02] Concerns about differences that could [00:05:05] lead the country to more wars. [00:05:09] Kasra Naji, BBC. Alireza Namvar Haghighi, [00:05:15] political analyst on Iranian affairs from Toronto, Canada, [00:05:19] is with us. Welcome, Mr. Namvar Haghighi. Mr. Pezeshkian, [00:05:23] when asked today about the resignation of the Secretary [00:05:26] of the Supreme National Security Council, said that there are differences [00:05:29] and he is trying to resolve them. What are [00:05:33] these differences that have now manifested externally? [00:05:36] Yes, my dear Ms. Amirshahi, and dear viewers [00:05:39] and listeners of BBC Persian Television, [00:05:42] these differences are related to the type [00:05:45] of management and the challenges within the power bloc. [00:05:49] Apparently, Mr. Zolgadr [00:05:51] still, despite being the Secretary of the Supreme National Security [00:05:55] Council and having been appointed to this position [00:05:59] by Mr. Pezeshkian, has not yet received [00:06:02] the Supreme Leader's representation. This is one point. [00:06:05] The second point is about the management [00:06:09] of state media and the effects [00:06:12] of negative propaganda and sometimes [00:06:16] malicious attacks against [00:06:20] decisions, especially regarding [00:06:22] the memorandum of understanding. Well, Mr. Zolgadr is opposed [00:06:26] and the Supreme National Security Council [00:06:29] is the superior decision-making body [00:06:32] in the field of foreign policy and the surrounding [00:06:35] environment. And well, television is deviating [00:06:38] from this path and is actually sabotaging. [00:06:41] Therefore, there is disagreement on this [00:06:45] issue, but proposals have been made for Mr. Ali [00:06:48] Bagheri or Mr. Mohsen Rezaei to replace him. He resigned, [00:06:52] but Mr. Pezeshkian has not accepted [00:06:56] it. The reason is that Mr. Pezeshkian's disposition generally does not align [00:07:00] with Mr. Rezaei's, and of course, none of [00:07:03] these reports have been officially confirmed and are still [00:07:07] rumors. But Mr. Namvar Haghighi, [00:07:10] anyway, we are seeing that while it is being said that negotiations [00:07:14] are progressing, there was even talk that an initial [00:07:18] framework has been reached. But today, [00:07:21] for example, we hear from the IRGC spokesman that other conditions are also [00:07:25] being discussed and we will not reopen the Strait [00:07:29] unless America accepts our conditions. Why are these obstacles [00:07:33] being created by the hardline conservative [00:07:36] and powerful faction? Well, [00:07:40] first and foremost, the most important issue was [00:07:44] this very memorandum that was signed. [00:07:47] It was the best thing Iran could get. Mr. Pezeshkian also [00:07:50] confirmed it, and unfortunately, based [00:07:54] on some calculations for which no one took responsibility, [00:07:58] when Mr. Pezeshkian was on a trip, those Saudi [00:08:01] ships were shelled, and again, [00:08:04] the Arabian Gulf, [00:08:07] which has caused 4-5 billion dollars in damages to the country, [00:08:11] and now it is not clear if these negotiations [00:08:14] can return us to that [00:08:17] memorandum. That memorandum and due to that shelling, [00:08:21] Iran's oil and petrochemical sales exemption was also revoked, [00:08:24] so both ships are stuck in Kharg [00:08:27] and Iran's naval blockade has started again. [00:08:30] The reason is that some of these factions [00:08:34] are opposed. One is that strategically [00:08:38] and in their view, Iran and [00:08:42] the US cannot really enter into an understanding [00:08:45] and even move towards normalization, because [00:08:48] the understanding is about development, [00:08:52] peace and the path to development. Because Iran has [00:08:56] no other way if it wants to develop, and when you want [00:09:00] the first sanctions to be lifted, 300 billion dollars [00:09:03] to be invested, Iran must respect the US [00:09:07] and the US must respect Iran, and also [00:09:11] whatever you wanted to tie with me. [00:09:16] Well, opposing political groups in Iran are not willing. [00:09:19] They believe that in this atmosphere, the government [00:09:23] will face crisis and decline, and they believe [00:09:26] that if this path continues, it will benefit them more. The second [00:09:29] point is about the Strait of Hormuz. They have a wrong calculation [00:09:33] about the Strait of Hormuz and think that this is a bottleneck [00:09:37] through which they can pressure and get whatever they want, while [00:09:40] in practice, it seems this will not happen and [00:09:44] it can lead to a comprehensive war and create [00:09:48] a global consensus against Iran. In addition, the third [00:09:51] point that these opposing and military factions [00:09:55] do not consider is that they underestimate [00:09:58] Iran's economic resilience, meaning that with [00:10:02] a comprehensive blockade [00:10:04] and the inability to sell [00:10:07] oil, Iran's economy [00:10:11] Thank you for everything Mr. Pezeshkian also mentioned [00:10:15] Alireza Namvar Haghighi, political analyst on Iranian affairs. Thank you [00:10:18] very much. US Vice President [00:10:22] J.D. Vance says that Tehran has assured Washington [00:10:26] that it will allow the maximum possible amount [00:10:29] of oil to pass through the Strait of Hormuz. But the US will verify [00:10:33] this promise of the Iranian government. This is while Iran says [00:10:37] that negotiations with Oman have nothing to do with the reopening [00:10:40] of the Strait of Hormuz, and for the reopening of this waterway, Washington [00:10:43] must accept Tehran's conditions. Meanwhile, CNN has reported [00:10:47] that the US Army Chief of Staff privately told [00:10:51] senior advisors to Donald Trump that the US must find [00:10:55] a way to exit the war with Iran, because existing military options [00:10:59] for escalating the conflict could be counterproductive. [00:11:02] Our correspondent Shideh Hooshmandi is with us live from Washington. [00:11:06] Shideh, let's start with J.D. Vance, who on the one hand [00:11:10] expresses hope that negotiations are progressing, but on the other [00:11:14] hand says we don't trust the Iranian side's words. [00:11:16] Yes, [00:11:18] this ambiguity adds to the ambiguity for those [00:11:22] who look very pessimistically at the ongoing negotiations. [00:11:26] But Mr. Vance says that the Iranians [00:11:29] told him that they are going to [00:11:33] reach a mechanism that Iran will not shoot [00:11:37] at commercial ships, and the amount of [00:11:41] oil and gas traffic will return to the level [00:11:45] that it was before the war. [00:11:47] He says they are in the process of determining this mechanism, [00:11:51] but at the same time, he says that the Iranians have laid a large number of mines. [00:11:55] This mine clearance also needs to be done to ensure [00:11:58] safe passage for ships, [00:12:02] and this situation actually [00:12:05] shows the dual nature [00:12:07] of the negotiations with Oman. [00:12:10] At the same time, he says that [00:12:14] Iran has also announced that it will not [00:12:17] collect any tolls from ships, but this is while we [00:12:20] have heard from Iranian officials that there is talk [00:12:24] of 5 to 7 percent in tolls. Therefore, this again [00:12:28] creates a question mark. Mr. Vance says that we must [00:12:32] see in practice what the Iranian side will [00:12:35] actually do. All the countries of the Persian Gulf [00:12:39] want security to return to this vital waterway, [00:12:41] but the reality is that it needs [00:12:45] to be verified, and we need to see what [00:12:48] Iran will do this time in practice. But we know [00:12:51] that the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and [00:13:29] the IRGC are emphasizing it and are counting on it to advance US goals to a certain extent, and it doesn't necessarily achieve Washington's strategic and political goals. CNN reports this [00:13:32] from informed sources, but Mr. King had previously [00:13:35] mentioned these issues in his speech to Congress. [00:13:39] He said that if the US wants to maintain its power [00:13:43] and superiority, it must use other tools, such as economic [00:13:46] tools and diplomacy. He also [00:13:50] warned about military strategic [00:13:53] reserves, [00:13:55] which could be challenging [00:13:59] for the United States in the long run [00:14:02] if a conflict arises elsewhere [00:14:05] in the world. Thank you, Shida. [00:14:09] Shida Hooshmandi from Washington. [00:14:12] Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian says that he is more concerned [00:14:16] about people's livelihoods than war. In a meeting [00:14:20] with journalists, he said that the way for goods [00:14:23] to enter Iran has been closed, [00:14:25] and the government does not even have enough resources for gasoline. [00:14:29] In these circumstances, the economic and naval blockade of Iran persists. [00:14:33] The fate of negotiations with the US regarding [00:14:36] the mechanism for reopening the Strait of Hormuz is still [00:14:40] unclear, and Tehran adds [00:14:42] new conditions to the table every day. [00:14:45] Where does the Iranian government get its foreign exchange? [00:14:48] This has been the main concern of the government [00:14:51] in Iran for years, and now the naval blockade [00:14:55] by the US has dealt another severe blow to [00:14:59] Iran's crisis-ridden economy. A matter that has [00:15:02] led to a sharp decrease in foreign exchange [00:15:05] revenue for Iran. It was expected that [00:15:09] Iran's recent agreement with the US would address [00:15:13] part of this budget deficit. But the resumption of war [00:15:17] after the attack on several oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz [00:15:19] squandered this opportunity. During the temporary lifting [00:15:23] of the blockade, Tehran exported a large portion of its floating [00:15:27] oil reserves from the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman, [00:15:31] worth 6 billion dollars. Now, Iranian President [00:15:34] Masoud Pezeshkian, on the second anniversary of his inauguration, [00:15:37] defended the Islamabad agreement with the US [00:15:41] at a press conference, because under it, Iran could [00:15:45] export oil products and bring back part of its blocked [00:15:48] funds to the country. Sanctions are a reality. [00:15:52] When we can't sell our oil, [00:15:55] we won't have foreign exchange. Now, the pressure on our [00:15:58] government is at its maximum. Mr. Pezeshkian, defending the removal [00:16:02] of preferential foreign exchange, says that if this had not [00:16:05] been done earlier, famine would have been certain in wartime. [00:16:09] God helped us. If this had not happened and [00:16:12] war had started, there would have been [00:16:16] a definite scarcity in the market. We wouldn't have had [00:16:19] the 28-rial dollar to give, and they wouldn't [00:16:23] have sold goods with the free market dollar. Sanctions, [00:16:26] which in past years have meant more expensive [00:16:29] goods and poverty for the people, have poured billions of dollars [00:16:33] into the pockets of middlemen who are trusted by the government [00:16:36] and sell Iranian oil on the black market [00:16:40] during sanctions, and return the money indirectly [00:16:43] to the country – of course, not always [00:16:47] and not all of it. Government officials have repeatedly [00:16:50] reported the disappearance of billions of dollars [00:16:54] by these trusted individuals. If I could [00:16:56] get a privilege, get a dollar that [00:17:00] was different from the market, eventually, billions of dollars [00:17:04] would automatically come in. We had to eliminate these. [00:17:09] Apparently, Mr. Pezeshkian has not forgotten where [00:17:12] the December protests began – the Tehran market. Protests [00:17:16] that were sparked by rising prices and the livelihood crisis, [00:17:20] and quickly turned into the biggest domestic crisis [00:17:23] in the history of the Islamic Republic. [00:17:27] With these pressures they are imposing, they want to make people dissatisfied [00:17:30] and, so to speak, force them [00:17:33] into protest. The president here speaks of privatization. [00:17:37] Another source for compensating the budget [00:17:40] deficit of Saipa and other parts, [00:17:44] even various other companies, is currently on the agenda [00:17:48] to be handed over as much as possible. [00:17:51] In November 2019, when the government raised [00:17:54] fuel prices to compensate for the budget deficit, it led to [00:17:58] widespread protests in the country, which ended with the killing of hundreds. [00:18:02] Amidst the government's efforts to find new [00:18:05] financial resources, oil exports from Kharg [00:18:09] Island have practically stopped, meaning the US has [00:18:12] placed its foot on the throat of Iran's economy. [00:18:15] Under the shadow of sanctions and war, many Iranians [00:18:19] have been putting a brave face on it. Apparently, [00:18:22] the government is also struggling with a severe shortage of foreign currency. [00:18:26] This raises many questions, including what if Iran [00:18:30] does not reach an agreement with the US and sanctions [00:18:34] are not lifted? Where will the government get money? [00:18:52] It's worse than before. In this situation where he says he has no [00:18:56] money at all and can't even import goods, [00:18:59] and is barely able to provide for the people's [00:19:02] daily needs, how can the government cover [00:19:06] its expenses? Well, [00:19:09] the government has tried to do this by printing [00:19:12] money, meaning the most liquid resource it has. [00:19:16] Why? Because if we consider [00:19:20] other resources, for example, [00:19:23] the sale of bonds, it has not been welcomed [00:19:27] according to the statistics we have. The government's [00:19:30] plans have not progressed as predicted in the budget. [00:19:34] On the other hand, oil revenues are limited [00:19:38] and becoming more limited. But at the same time, [00:19:41] the resources that are acquired [00:19:45] must be allocated to war, to commanders, to the Islamic [00:19:48] Revolutionary Guard Corps, to the government's proxies, and of course, [00:19:52] to war expenditures. Therefore, the only remaining [00:19:55] way is to actually create money [00:19:58] without backing. Statistics also confirm this. [00:20:02] This action causes [00:20:05] inflation, which is described as [00:20:09] reaching into people's pockets. Can [00:20:13] these solutions truly solve [00:20:16] Iran's economic problem or at least [00:20:20] compensate for the government's expenses? [00:20:24] Absolutely not. As other ways, [00:20:28] such as selling government assets or this [00:20:31] so-called privatization that ultimately leads [00:20:35] to privatization, it's naturally [00:20:37] impossible for these measures to work. [00:20:41] And if we look at the inflation figures, [00:20:44] the increase in liquidity, the monetary base, and [00:20:47] other variables such as, for example, [00:20:51] gross domestic product, we see that while [00:20:55] we are witnessing a contraction in the real sector [00:20:58] of the economy, meaning what is called [00:21:01] gross domestic product, on the other hand, liquidity [00:21:05] is increasing, and this actually leads to inflation. [00:21:09] But this inflation that exists, [00:21:13] how can it continue? And the government, [00:21:16] no one else can give you a convincing [00:21:20] answer. Excuse me, a question arises here. Some [00:21:24] economists say that one of the government's [00:21:27] solutions has been to increase the cost [00:21:31] of its services, for example, electricity prices have increased [00:21:34] or services that the government provides. Can [00:21:38] these increases compensate for the [00:21:41] government's shortages? Absolutely not. This is because [00:21:45] the increase in electricity or water tariffs [00:21:48] or other services that the government provides, [00:21:52] or simultaneously the reduction in the supply [00:21:55] of government services and making them more expensive, [00:21:58] like, for example, the deteriorating quality [00:22:02] of education or healthcare, or the increasing cost [00:22:05] of healthcare, has practically failed to create [00:22:08] this balance in the budget. Therefore, the only remaining [00:22:12] way is to print money without backing, and of course, [00:22:16] it should be noted that a significant portion [00:22:20] of this existing budget deficit, which has made the government [00:22:23] more powerless, is related to the costs associated with [00:22:27] corruption and rent-seeking given to government media [00:22:30] or institutions of soft and hard repression. [00:22:34] If the government wants to take a positive [00:22:37] step to curb inflation, it must first eliminate [00:22:41] rent-seeking expenditures, which the government, [00:22:44] because it needs these institutions of repression, [00:22:48] both soft and hard, cannot do. Therefore, [00:22:52] the only remaining way is what I told [00:22:55] you, namely an increase in liquidity, [00:22:58] the monetary base, and consequently continued inflation, which [00:23:02] is expected to increase even further in the coming months. [00:23:06] Thank you very much, Ahmad Alavi, economic researcher. Two brief [00:23:10] news items. [00:23:12] Iranian media reported the abduction and murder [00:23:15] of Hamidreza Rajabzadeh, a religious eulogist. According [00:23:19] to these reports, an image of the moment Mr. Rajabzadeh [00:23:22] was abducted was sent to his family more than two weeks [00:23:26] after his disappearance. A video has also been circulated on social [00:23:30] media showing a person resembling Mr. Rajabzadeh on the ground, [00:23:34] appearing to be bloody. Some pro-government sources [00:23:38] attributed this murder to Israeli agents. Tasnim News Agency [00:23:42] reported that four people involved in his murder were arrested. [00:23:45] Riding electric scooters [00:23:48] in Paris [00:23:50] without adhering to new safety regulations will result [00:23:54] in fines. Currently, the fine for not wearing a helmet [00:23:57] while riding is equivalent to more than $150. [00:24:01] Not wearing a reflective vest also carries a $40 [00:24:05] fine. According to the police, as the use of electric [00:24:09] scooters increases daily, accidents have also increased. [00:24:12] Last year, nearly 80 people died in these accidents [00:24:16] and more than a thousand were seriously injured. Scientists and researchers [00:24:22] are reporting a major environmental threat [00:24:26] that, with the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, [00:24:29] threatens the ecosystem of the Persian Gulf, the Sea of Oman, [00:24:33] and other parts of the world. According to them, invasive [00:24:36] species of aquatic animals attach themselves to the hull of any [00:24:40] ship that remains motionless in the water. Not only are they difficult [00:24:44] to remove, but they also destroy other marine species and cause [00:24:48] severe damage to the ship itself and the shipping industry. Siavash [00:24:51] now has more details. [00:24:53] Amidst the war between Iran and the US over [00:24:57] control of the Strait of Hormuz, a common and silent [00:25:00] enemy is being created beneath these waters. [00:25:04] The closure of the Strait of Hormuz means [00:25:07] hundreds of ships remaining motionless in the region's [00:25:11] waters, and this is a breeding ground [00:25:14] for invasive species that attach to ship hulls. [00:25:17] In the shipping industry, these organisms are known [00:25:21] as biofouling or bioaccumulators. [00:25:24] A costly nuisance for shipping, [00:25:27] both commercial, recreational, and military. [00:25:31] The journal Biological Invasions, in its research, [00:25:35] described this issue as a huge threat to [00:25:39] global biosecurity. Where is the problem? [00:25:42] Bioaccumulators are not just harmless and innocent [00:25:46] species that are easily cleaned from a ship's hull. [00:25:50] When they settle on a ship's surface, [00:25:53] they multiply rapidly and turn every ship [00:25:57] into a carrier of various types of microbes [00:26:00] and bacteria that can destroy the native species [00:26:04] of any region. When these invasive [00:26:07] species themselves, such as black mussels, [00:26:11] microscopic algae, and sea squirts, detach [00:26:15] from the ship's hull, they quickly tighten their grip [00:26:17] on other species in the ecosystem. With the prolonged [00:26:21] stagnation of ships in the Persian Gulf [00:26:24] and the Sea of Oman, the primary threat is [00:26:27] to the ecosystem of these waters. And when these ships [00:26:30] sail from other parts of the world, they bring the same [00:26:34] problems to other ecosystems. But this is not [00:26:37] just an environmental issue. The shipping industry [00:26:41] spends $30 to $50 billion annually [00:26:44] to combat marine bioaccumulators. These [00:26:47] invasive species not only damage ship engines, [00:26:51] but they also cause ships to consume up to [00:26:54] 40% more fuel to move, [00:26:57] and greater fuel consumption means more pollution [00:27:01] of the waters and the atmosphere. [00:27:20] In Persian Gulf ports, like many other ports [00:27:24] in the world, these wastes are not collected. [00:27:27] Perhaps with new agreements between the countries involved [00:27:30] in the war, ships will soon [00:27:37] start moving. A portion of the tolls that Iran and Oman are trying [00:27:41] to collect from ships will be used to address [00:27:44] the environmental issues of the region's waters. [00:27:48] Siavash Ardalan, BBC. [00:27:49] We have reached [00:27:54] the end of this news segment. Thank you for [00:27:56] joining us.