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[00:00:22] Headlines.
[00:00:24] Trump's claim about Tehran's insistence on a
[00:00:28] quick deal, at the same time, the US re-imposed sanctions on a sanctioned
[00:00:32] Russian bank due to its ties
[00:00:34] with Iran. Well, this was an opportunity
[00:00:37] that Iran and Oman provided.
[00:00:40] کردند.
[00:00:42] Iran's claim about the reason for canceling its meeting with
[00:00:46] Persian Gulf countries in Oman. The spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs says
[00:00:50] it was at the request of Saudi Arabia. Never
[00:00:53] rioters and
[00:00:56] coup plotters are in fact a name. Threat
[00:00:59] to protesters. On the eve of the anniversary of the start of the Mahsa movement,
[00:01:02] the Commander-in-Chief of the Iranian Police says they will be treated like enemies.
[00:01:06] And the healthy eating program for
[00:01:10] students in British schools. Fried foods
[00:01:13] will be eliminated, and sugary and processed foods will be reduced.
[00:01:35] Hello and welcome to this news program. Donald Trump says
[00:01:39] Iran is very eager to reach an agreement with the US, and he has no fundamental
[00:01:42] objection to engagement, but he will make the decision
[00:01:46] about Washington's entry into talks with Tehran. The US President,
[00:01:50] in posts on the social media network Truth Social, has called
[00:01:53] for other countries to compensate for the cost of US actions
[00:01:57] in the Strait of Hormuz, and has once again promised that with the end of the war,
[00:02:00] oil prices will drop rapidly. At the same time, the US
[00:02:04] has sanctioned the Russian bank VTB, which was previously
[00:02:08] on the list of Russia-related sanctions, this time under an executive order
[00:02:12] related to Iran. In the updated information on this bank
[00:02:15] at the US Treasury Department, the name Tehran and the phrase
[00:02:19] subject to secondary sanctions have been added.
[00:02:23] Our correspondent from Washington, Khashayar Jenaid, has joined the program.
[00:02:27] Khashayar, tell us a little more about Mr. Trump's statements.
[00:02:35] Mr. Trump today published a series of messages on Truth Social, some of which
[00:02:38] relate to Iran, and this shows what issue is occupying his mind
[00:02:42] in this regard. This is about Mr. Trump's concern about the rising
[00:02:46] price of gasoline in the US market and its impact on
[00:02:50] the political process in this country, and on the other hand, there is the discussion
[00:02:54] that the US emphasizes that the Strait of Hormuz is under the control of
[00:02:57] the US, not any other country. In several posts that Mr. Trump
[00:03:01] published on Truth Social, he said that Iran is
[00:03:05] strongly seeking an agreement with the US, but he said that the decision
[00:03:08] about whether the US will return to negotiations with Iran
[00:03:12] or not will be his, and in this regard, he emphasized that
[00:03:15] the US can consider this issue.
[00:03:19] Regarding Iran seeking a quick agreement,
[00:03:23] he said that
[00:03:26] the movement of ships and the export of oil from the Strait of Hormuz
[00:03:30] continues and is ongoing, and he emphasized that the war
[00:03:34] will end soon, and then you will see that the price
[00:03:37] of gasoline will immediately decrease. Regarding
[00:03:40] the price increases, he said that all price increases
[00:03:43] were due to the policies of the Biden administration, and all prices
[00:03:47] are decreasing, and the only price that is going up is the price of gasoline, which
[00:03:51] will also decrease soon. It can be said that
[00:03:55] these indicate what
[00:03:58] is on Mr. Trump's mind. Weighing on him these days
[00:04:01] is the situation of the war with Iran, and of course, Mr. Trump
[00:04:05] refers to this as a military clash in his messages, not
[00:04:08] a war, and the discussion of the consequences
[00:04:11] of the war on the US economy. But regarding
[00:04:14] the sanctions you mentioned, the US Treasury
[00:04:17] Department, minutes ago in a statement it
[00:04:21] issued, included the name of a Russian bank on the list of
[00:04:25] secondary sanctions related to Iran.
[00:04:29] These are sanctions that the US, in the continuation
[00:04:32] of the war, as economic isolation
[00:04:35] of Iran, has implemented with the aim of increasing pressure
[00:04:39] on Tehran to accept US demands in the war.
[00:04:42] This bank that was mentioned
[00:04:45] is VTB Bank, or the Bank for Foreign Trade of Russia.
[00:04:48] It is an important bank. Of course, this
[00:04:51] bank was previously on the full US sanctions list
[00:04:55] due to the war in Ukraine. Now, due to Iran, it is being
[00:04:59] placed on the secondary sanctions list. Given
[00:05:02] that this bank was previously sanctioned, this sanction
[00:05:06] is not considered a punishment for the Russian bank,
[00:05:09] but rather a warning
[00:05:13] to banks in other countries that conduct financial transactions
[00:05:16] with Iran through this bank, and it will warn
[00:05:20] them not to engage in transactions and financial exchanges
[00:05:24] with Iran. Thank you,
[00:05:27] Khashayar Jendi, our correspondent in
[00:05:30] Washington.
[00:05:32] Iran says that the postponement of its joint meeting with
[00:05:35] the Persian Gulf countries was at the request of Saudi Arabia. This
[00:05:39] meeting was supposed to be held today to discuss the strait.
[00:05:43] Hormuz in Oman. The spokesperson of the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs says that Tehran
[00:05:47] expected the regional countries to appreciate this opportunity.
[00:05:50] This is while, according to a Reuters report, yesterday and the day
[00:05:54] before, ship traffic through the Strait of Hormuz decreased. On the other hand,
[00:05:57] today, Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, met with
[00:06:01] the commander of US forces in the Middle East. It was previously reported that
[00:06:05] the US rejected Saudi Arabia's request for military intervention against the Houthis.
[00:06:08] Farin Assemi reports.
[00:06:12] The Oman meeting, a session that was canceled just hours
[00:06:16] before it was scheduled. The news of the postponement of this meeting
[00:06:19] was announced by the Omani Foreign Minister. In order
[00:06:23] to reach a consensus, the regional meeting that was supposed to be held
[00:06:26] tomorrow in Salalah has been postponed. We remain committed
[00:06:30] to strengthening dialogue that promotes stability and sustainable
[00:06:33] cooperation in our region. And although Iran
[00:06:37] says this postponement was at the request of Saudi Arabia. Well, this
[00:06:40] was a very good opportunity. I don't think
[00:06:44] any responsible party
[00:06:47] would accept that this opportunity
[00:06:50] should be missed for any reason, whether due to the influence
[00:06:54] of parties outside the region,
[00:06:57] or due to excuses that really have nothing
[00:07:01] to do with Iran. We should not
[00:07:03] hold this meeting. The news that has been
[00:07:07] reported is correct, that
[00:07:10] Saudi Arabia requested that this
[00:07:13] meeting not be held for now. The discussions
[00:07:17] that are raised about the attribution of events that
[00:07:20] are ongoing between them and Yemen are,
[00:07:24] frankly,
[00:07:26] giving the wrong address. The spokesman for the Iranian Foreign Ministry
[00:07:29] is referring to the conflicts in Yemen for control
[00:07:33] of the Bab el-Mandeb Strait that have
[00:07:35] escalated.
[00:07:39] Between Houthi militias, who are supported by
[00:07:43] Iran on one side, and Saudi Arabia and the forces of the legitimate government of Yemen on the
[00:07:47] other. Iran, however, says it has no involvement
[00:07:50] in Yemen. I will repeat this, Iran has
[00:07:53] no intervention in matters related
[00:07:57] to Yemen. But we, as
[00:08:00] a country
[00:08:03] for whom
[00:08:05] the situation in the region is important, know that some
[00:08:09] parties are exploiting this situation
[00:08:13] to escalate conflicts and division among Islamic
[00:08:16] countries, and also
[00:08:20] trying to fish in troubled waters. We state
[00:08:23] our position very clearly.
[00:08:26] A clear statement of the issue should not be interpreted
[00:08:29] as interference in this matter. The differences between Iran
[00:08:33] and Saudi Arabia, however, are not limited to what is happening in Yemen. This is
[00:08:37] an image of Saudi Arabia's East-West pipeline that was damaged
[00:08:40] in drone attacks a few days ago, and the flow of oil through it was cut.
[00:08:44] The finger of blame in those attacks was pointed at Iran and its
[00:08:47] proxy groups in Iraq. Is Iran
[00:08:51] responsible for the attack on the East-West pipeline, and what do you think
[00:08:54] Saudi Arabia is going to gain?
[00:08:56] بیاره؟
[00:08:59] Well, I think they're probably responsible, meaning, you know, they're
[00:09:03] completely ready for a reaction now.
[00:09:06] But I think Iran is responsible because they've been
[00:09:09] responsible for these kinds of things for a while now.
[00:09:19] Earlier, Oman also announced that it would not attend the meeting due to Iran's presence.
[00:09:22] The reason for that was Iran's attacks on US bases
[00:09:26] in Persian Gulf countries, including Bahrain.
[00:09:29] No new date has yet been set for this meeting, but
[00:09:33] Iran says it is consulting with Oman to set a new date.
[00:09:37] Farin Hashemi, BBC.
[00:09:39] Arman Mahmoodian, researcher
[00:09:43] at the Institute for National and International Security at the University of South Florida
[00:09:47] in Tampa, USA, is with us. Mr.
[00:09:49] Mahmoodian, Saudi Arabia
[00:09:52] apparently did not agree to attend this meeting.
[00:09:56] If it does not want to negotiate, if it does not pursue
[00:09:59] diplomacy, what can it really do?
[00:10:01] بکنه
[00:10:04] Thank you for the invitation. Look, I think the answer or
[00:10:08] the decision made by Saudi Arabia is not the final decision. In my
[00:10:11] opinion, Saudi Arabia is not interested in
[00:10:15] entering into negotiations before the issue in Yemen has been somewhat
[00:10:18] tempered. That is, Saudi Arabia is pursuing two objectives. One objective is
[00:10:22] that it seeks to use its absence from
[00:10:26] the trilateral negotiations as a leverage against Iran,
[00:10:30] which is the main supporter of the Houthis, to make Iran ask
[00:10:33] the Houthis to somewhat slow down or
[00:10:36] de-escalate, or not to escalate
[00:10:40] the situation and tension further from here.
[00:10:43] The second thing that is happening is that Saudi Arabia is currently in a weak
[00:10:47] position regionally, specifically in the Red Sea-Bab el-Mandeb area.
[00:10:50] The advance of the Houthis against the government that Saudi Arabia
[00:10:59] expected. What was expected was Saudi Arabia's failure,
[00:11:03] especially the Saudi Air Force's failure to control this issue,
[00:11:07] which is surprising and a significant issue.
[00:11:10] I think with these issues, Saudi Arabia is not interested in entering
[00:11:14] into negotiations with Iran on a very important issue like the Strait of Hormuz,
[00:11:18] because if it does, it will be doing so from a position of weakness,
[00:11:22] or it will be entering a situation
[00:11:25] where its regional situation and regional influence are not
[00:11:29] in a good condition. That's why I think Saudi Arabia has currently decided not to be present, but I
[00:11:33] don't think this is a definitive or final
[00:11:35] decision.
[00:11:38] Well, you mean that it doesn't want to talk from a position of weakness,
[00:11:41] but on the other hand, today,
[00:11:44] Mohammed bin Salman met with the commander of US
[00:11:48] forces in the Middle East. Apparently, they had requests
[00:11:52] from the Americans that were not met.
[00:11:55] Is it possible that in the foreseeable future or
[00:11:58] in the short term, Saudi Arabia's situation will change
[00:12:02] and it will emerge from a position of weakness? Look,
[00:12:05] it's possible. It all depends on what the Americans do.
[00:12:08] In the past, this issue was not the first time that
[00:12:12] Saudi Arabia was somewhat powerless in Yemen and
[00:12:15] sought US help or requested US help.
[00:12:17] Now, according to news sources,
[00:12:21] some sources, as far as I know, say that Saudi Arabia's
[00:12:25] request was rejected twice. Now, how many times doesn't matter
[00:12:29] much. What matters is that the United States has not yet
[00:12:32] intervened. This may change. This may change
[00:12:36] depending on what offer Saudi Arabia makes to it. Mr.
[00:12:39] Trump has proven that in the Middle East, specifically in
[00:12:42] relation to Saudi Arabia, he is willing to
[00:12:45] compromise depending on what the Saudis are willing to
[00:12:48] offer him. The fact that the United States has not yet agreed
[00:12:52] to get involved in Yemen is, in my opinion, not a definitive
[00:12:56] thing. Mr. Trump may still change his mind. If the United
[00:12:59] States changes its mind, if the United States wants
[00:13:02] to enter this conflict, and specifically enter into aerial bombardment of Yemen,
[00:13:06] we have seen in the past that US air operations
[00:13:09] compared to Saudi air operations in Yemen and against
[00:13:13] the Houthis have a greater success rate.
[00:13:15] It's relative success, not certainty, but they have a greater success rate. If this
[00:13:19] happens, in my opinion, the situation will somewhat
[00:13:23] shift in favor of Saudi Arabia. It will change. However, specifically,
[00:13:26] if the US decides to intervene soon, because
[00:13:30] the Houthis are not yet well established in the areas
[00:13:34] they have captured, and the areas they have captured
[00:13:37] are outside the mountainous region where the Houthis traditionally
[00:13:41] have a presence. That is, the areas they have captured are not as
[00:13:44] geographically defensible for the Houthis as their traditional areas. If the US
[00:13:47] decides to intervene soon, in my opinion, there is a possibility
[00:13:51] that the balance of power will return and a relative balance
[00:13:55] will be established between the government that Saudi Arabia supports
[00:13:59] in Yemen and the Houthis. This possibility is not
[00:14:02] at all small. Very briefly, please, but we know that the US
[00:14:06] is already sufficiently involved in the Strait of Hormuz. Now, if
[00:14:09] for example, the Bab el-Mandeb Strait is also
[00:14:12] added, will Mr. Trump's position not become more
[00:14:16] precarious than the current situation? Briefly, please. Both yes and no.
[00:14:20] Look, if he doesn't intervene, his position may become
[00:14:23] more precarious.
[00:14:31] If he is supposed to be naive, in addition to the issue of the Strait of Hormuz, the pressure on the global economy will be
[00:14:34] greatly exacerbated. So the answer is both yes and
[00:14:38] no. What's important is what the Houthis will do next.
[00:14:41] Thank you, Mr. Mahmoodian, Arman
[00:14:45] Mahmoodian, researcher at the Institute for National and International Security at the University of
[00:14:49] South Florida. We continue the program with a few short
[00:14:53] news items. The independent fact-finding mission of the United Nations
[00:14:56] for Iran, referring to recent deadly US attacks on the south of this
[00:15:00] country, has called for compliance with international law by
[00:15:04] all parties. The report of this mission states that in two US
[00:15:07] attacks on August 8th on Qeshm Island and September
[00:15:11] 1st on Kohostak County, a number of civilians were killed,
[00:15:14] and the communities of these two regions, which are ethnic and religious
[00:15:18] minorities, were harmed. This report described Kohostak
[00:15:21] as a predominantly Baloch-inhabited county and said that the residents of Qeshm
[00:15:25] are mostly Sunni Muslims, and both of these
[00:15:28] communities have historically been victims of structural discrimination and deprivation.
[00:15:32] بودند.
[00:15:35] The documentary "Observer's Eye" about the life of one of the victims
[00:15:39] of the "Woman, Life, Freedom" protests won an award at a
[00:15:42] festival in Mexico. This film, directed
[00:15:45] by Abbas Ghazali, was selected as the chosen film
[00:15:49] in the "Against Silence, All Voices" international festival's 14th
[00:15:52] edition, in the "Border, Migration and Exile" section.
[00:15:55] "Observer's Eye" was made in Spain and tells the story
[00:15:59] of Kowsar Eftekhari, who was injured during the
[00:16:02] 2022 protests in Iran.
[00:16:06] ایران.
[00:16:28] This company was damaged during the recent war between the US and Israel and Iran, which brought the total
[00:16:32] number of inoperable Iranian aircraft to 20 to 30.
[00:16:35] به ۲۰ تا ۳۰ فرود.
[00:16:38] He also said that some radar equipment was also damaged,
[00:16:42] which reduced the flight capacity.
[00:16:45] شده.
[00:16:52] One of the two US Air Force officers whose F-15 fighter jet
[00:16:55] was shot down over Iran in April
[00:16:59] spoke for the first time about the moments of the crash,
[00:17:02] his injuries, escaping from Iranian forces, and the
[00:17:06] extensive operation that ultimately led to
[00:17:09] his rescue. Shida Hooshmandi, our correspondent from
[00:17:13] Washington, reports on this.
[00:17:14] میده.
[00:17:20] That day was like any other day of the war until the Iranians shot us down.
[00:17:23] In the early hours of April 14, 2045, five
[00:17:27] weeks after the start of the US-Iran war, a US F-15
[00:17:31] was targeted in the mountainous region south of Isfahan.
[00:17:34] A US soldier, alone
[00:17:38] in the mountains south of Isfahan, and an operation involving
[00:17:42] thousands of people to find him. He has now
[00:17:45] spoken to CBS News about his rescue operation,
[00:17:49] but Iran still has the capability to shoot
[00:17:52] down some of our fighter planes. The CENTCOM commander says
[00:17:56] the mission that night was to attack facilities
[00:17:59] related to Iran's missile and drone program,
[00:18:03] not Isfahan's nuclear facilities. An operation that in that war...
[00:20:08] Before the US rescue operation, IRGC positions in
[00:20:11] the surrounding area were targeted. In the second phase, more than
[00:20:15] 15 US aircraft entered the operation,
[00:20:18] and 92 US troops stepped onto Iranian soil.
[00:20:22] US commanders say that in
[00:20:25] total, 3 to 5 thousand people were involved in this
[00:20:29] mission, but the extraction was not easy. The wheels of two
[00:20:32] US aircraft got stuck in the ground, and more than 90
[00:20:36] troops present in the area themselves needed to be extracted.
[00:20:39] They left Iran on other planes,
[00:20:42] and the US bombed the remaining equipment
[00:20:46] so that it would not fall into Iranian hands.
[00:20:49] Brava was rescued about 50
[00:20:53] hours after the crash, but the narrative of this
[00:20:56] operation is now a matter of debate. CNN has
[00:21:00] reported that representatives of US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin
[00:21:04] insisted on the presence of two crew members on the CBS 60
[00:21:07] Minutes program. Both initially hesitated. One
[00:21:11] of them agreed, but the other refused to be interviewed.
[00:21:14] The Pentagon says their decision was entirely voluntary.
[00:21:18] According to sources,
[00:22:20] will deal with the enemy mercilessly and go as far as killing. Radan also
[00:22:24] said that the presence of people prevented some programs that he attributed to
[00:22:28] the enemy, including during last year's Chaharshanbe Suri, from being
[00:22:31] implemented. Meanwhile, on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the killing of
[00:22:35] Mahsa Jina Amini in the custody of the morality police, reports of
[00:22:38] increased security measures in her hometown of Saqqez have been published.
[00:22:42] It has also been reported that security agencies have asked the families of those killed
[00:22:45] in the Mahsa movement to refrain from holding memorial ceremonies.
[00:22:50] Mostafa Daneshgar, political analyst from Detroit, USA, is with us. Mr.
[00:22:54] Daneshgar, what do you think? Will these threats
[00:22:57] control the situation, or will they
[00:23:00] cause more anger among protesters or those
[00:23:04] who are dissatisfied?
[00:23:07] I offer my greetings and respect to you and the viewers
[00:23:10] and listeners of BBC Farsi.
[00:23:13] My perception is that we essentially need to see what
[00:23:16] situation we are trying to
[00:23:20] discuss the future to some extent. We are talking in a situation
[00:23:24] where several months have passed,
[00:23:27] but not yet a year since the bloody
[00:23:30] massacre of January 2023. That
[00:23:34] massacre is still a wound on the
[00:23:37] body of Iranian society
[00:23:40] and the collective belief and mind
[00:23:43] of Iranians. On the other hand, the issue of economic
[00:23:47] siege, naval siege, and the difficult
[00:23:51] living conditions, the inflation that has become
[00:23:54] momentary, the collapse of the national currency's value, the uncertain
[00:23:58] future, and the suspended state of war.
[00:24:01] We are not fighting, and we are not negotiating. All
[00:24:05] of these have come together to make us, according to many
[00:24:08] sociologists, economists, and experts who are warning
[00:24:12] the Islamic Republic, face a situation where society is waiting
[00:24:16] for a spark.
[00:24:19] A situation that is very, very similar to what we saw
[00:24:23] before the events of December 2017, before the
[00:24:26] events of November 2019, at
[00:24:30] the beginning of December 2017, and September
[00:24:33] 2022, but much more severe.
[00:24:37] The war that lies ahead, probably, or
[00:24:40] the economic war that is ongoing and
[00:24:43] for which the Islamic Republic clearly has no
[00:24:46] plan. All of these seem to greatly
[00:24:50] increase the scenario and the probability
[00:24:53] of protests starting. That is why the officials
[00:24:57] of the Islamic Republic are drawing lines, from Mohseni-Eje'i
[00:25:00] to Radan, and not only
[00:25:04] verbally and in speech, but also in
[00:25:07] practice, these so-called executions
[00:25:10] without trial,
[00:25:13] without rules, without regulations. Of course,
[00:25:16] I don't mean executions with regulations, in my opinion, I am against
[00:25:20] the entirety of the death penalty. I mean wholesale,
[00:25:23] arbitrary and
[00:25:26] without accountability, to serve
[00:25:30] repression. The Islamic Republic is using both of these tools,
[00:25:33] both executions and drawing these lines,
[00:25:37] because it anticipates that such protests
[00:25:40] are ahead. Well, the government has shown
[00:25:44] how determined it is to suppress
[00:25:46] these protests, and how it does not
[00:25:50] shy away from violence. Considering
[00:25:53] that experience, where do you think the situation is headed?
[00:25:56] میره
[00:25:59] Well, this period is
[00:26:02] a period that, in terms of
[00:26:06] action and on the ground, can be
[00:26:09] different. The government's miscalculations have shown
[00:26:12] to increase over time, in
[00:26:15] addition to the important factor that we still don't know
[00:26:19] about its impact, and that is
[00:26:23] the absence of Ali Khamenei as the unifying
[00:26:26] and cohesive element
[00:26:29] that unites
[00:26:33] the various components of the Islamic Republic. These scattered
[00:26:36] centers of power are now leaderless.
[00:26:40] The Supreme Leader, the Guardian Jurist, is absent. There is
[00:26:44] no sound, no voice from him. He was essentially
[00:26:47] the one who always came forward, stepped in,
[00:26:51] tried to create a narrative. Right now,
[00:26:55] we don't have a dominant narrative in the Islamic Republic
[00:26:58] regarding the war, or the management of the
[00:27:02] domestic situation. This chaos has started
[00:27:06] in the domestic sphere to such an extent that you see someone
[00:27:09] like Hossein Taeb also says that we should not
[00:27:12] intervene in the issue of hijab in a way that disrupts
[00:27:16] domestic cohesion. Therefore, we still
[00:27:19] don't know. This really makes it difficult
[00:27:22] to give a definitive answer as to whether this time the Islamic Republic will retreat
[00:27:26] or suppress more violently and bloodily.
[00:27:30] But what is certain is that the Islamic Republic
[00:27:33] is no longer in a position to make
[00:27:37] big decisions, to make a decision to suppress and
[00:27:41] to gather everyone behind it as a political system,
[00:27:44] because that leadership is not there, that central authority is not
[00:27:48] there. Not that it can completely retreat and reach a compromise
[00:27:51] with society. Thank you, Mr. Daneshgar. Mostafa Daneshgar, political analyst from
[00:27:55] Detroit, USA, is with us. Thank you for being with this news
[00:27:59] segment.
[00:28:11] respond mercilessly and go as far as killing. The comprehensive report of Amnesty
[00:28:15] International on the suppression of the "Woman, Life, Freedom"
[00:28:18] movement in 30 Iranian cities on
[00:28:22] the evening of September 21st, massacres are carried out.
[00:28:25] With every torture victim and grieving family we
[00:28:28] spoke with, their eyes are on the international community. Our
[00:28:31] efforts to the community are that they take this action immediately
[00:28:35] before another massacre occurs. Conversation with Raha Bahreini, researcher
[00:28:39] at Amnesty International on Iran.