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[00:00:38] And now on BBC Persian TV, the documentary
[00:00:52] I said why, he said no one is ready. Then there were many drops too.
[00:00:56] was your heart.
[00:01:34] I have been reporting on the Taliban
[00:01:36] for over a decade. Men who have now emerged
[00:01:40] from their hiding places to run the country.
[00:01:43] Women
[00:01:45] are foolish, not smart, they don't understand anything.
[00:01:48] I think the Taliban
[00:01:51] are afraid. The Taliban are afraid that when
[00:01:55] a woman understands, she will never bring up
[00:01:59] ignorant people like the Taliban. Now that the Taliban leaders have transformed from an insurgent group
[00:02:02] outside of power to rulers within the government structure,
[00:02:06] can they leave their dark past behind?
[00:02:36] After twenty years of war, the Taliban have taken power
[00:02:39] in Afghanistan.
[00:02:54] This moment was a turning point for Zabiullah Mujahid.
[00:02:58] As the senior spokesman of the Taliban group, he was
[00:03:02] pursued by Afghan and US government forces
[00:03:05] for years. He operated in hiding
[00:03:09] for more than two decades. Now that the Americans have left the country, for the first
[00:03:12] time, he revealed his face.
[00:03:14] I was in Kandahar when
[00:03:24] Kabul was silent. I couldn't get there sooner. I arrived a day or two later.
[00:03:27] I was worried
[00:03:33] myself because I had taken
[00:03:37] responsibility for many years as a party.
[00:03:40] Killing. The worry came back to my mind.
[00:03:44] How should they imagine it?
[00:05:00] Any lie, God forbid, they say, they cannot say against
[00:05:03] Islamic law, Islamic rulings. The media can
[00:05:07] have their broadcasts.
[00:05:08] باشند.
[00:05:42] He arrested Tolo News reporters and imprisoned them
[00:05:45] for two weeks.
[00:05:48] And today, Zabiullah Mujahid came to your television to get close
[00:05:52] to them.
[00:06:01] No, let's go.
[00:06:45] Seven people were killed
[00:06:47] and 25 were injured.
[00:06:54] Zabiullah Mujahid, as the Taliban spokesman, had defended this attack.
[00:06:58] At one point, your military target was Tolo. The situation is different. When
[00:07:01] two brothers are fighting and at one point, because we are in Tolo,
[00:07:04] I want to remind you of this incident that happened 10 years ago, that in
[00:07:08] an attack by Taliban members on the Tolo employees' car,
[00:07:12] people were killed. When you came to Tolo, did you remember that incident? Of course, we don't want
[00:07:16] to mention past tragedies. Time has changed, circumstances have changed, everything
[00:07:20] has changed. Now we are
[00:07:22] friendly.
[00:07:24] The survivors of the Taliban attack on Tolo television do not talk to the media
[00:07:28] out of fear of the Taliban, but one of them, who suffered
[00:07:32] irreparable injuries, said that she neither forgives
[00:07:35] nor forgets
[00:07:36] the perpetrators of this attack.
[00:07:48] The Taliban's suicide attacks in Afghanistan have left thousands
[00:07:52] dead, including civilians.
[00:08:04] Two years ago, I went to a man who designed
[00:08:08] some of these attacks.
[00:08:08] کرده.
[00:08:43] He was in this prison awaiting his execution sentence when
[00:08:47] the Taliban took power.
[00:08:50] Overnight, he transformed from a condemned prisoner
[00:08:52] to the prison's official.
[00:08:56] شد.
[00:09:04] Here, most of
[00:09:05] my friends.
[00:09:46] This city was traditionally one of the front lines
[00:09:50] against the Taliban.
[00:09:51] Now that the Taliban have come to power,
[00:09:55] they are trying to show that they are not
[00:09:59] just insurgents.
[00:10:01] This is all
[00:10:04] the brothers, all the departments. It will be translated first thing in the morning
[00:10:08] at 15 minutes. All the brothers, all the departments.
[00:10:11] Abdullah Sarhadi is the governor
[00:10:15] of this province, a former Guantanamo prisoner and someone who
[00:10:19] is highly respected among the Taliban. Translation
[00:10:23] that one day of belief.
[00:10:55] Helps.
[00:11:09] For the mosque, the Taliban recently banned the use of smartphones for government
[00:11:13] employees, and this restriction has affected
[00:11:16] the governor's work.
[00:11:27] Do you have a phone here? We don't have one here.
[00:11:41] Although we were allowed to film, he doesn't want
[00:11:45] everything to be recorded. The governor
[00:11:48] quickly wraps up most meetings, sometimes
[00:11:52] between two sips.
[00:12:25] This is the solution, I'm even ready to go, but I don't want to divorce him
[00:12:28] and I don't want to live with him anymore.
[00:12:32] We don't live together, so I don't want to divorce him.
[00:12:35] Governor, why should I divorce him? Everything comes from him, so I should divorce
[00:12:39] him? In Islamic Sharia, when a woman comes
[00:12:43] forward for divorce, she must request a khula (divorce initiated by the wife) and may be forced
[00:12:47] to return her dowry to her husband. Consider
[00:12:49] that if we separate, who will take us or
[00:12:53] not? There must be many things. We should look into it.
[00:12:57] Surely you won't be bad. You will be
[00:13:00] dishonored, Governor. The chastity I had, the honor I
[00:13:03] had, was taken from this man.
[00:13:06] You are here. What I see is amazing.
[00:13:10] This brave woman knows her rights
[00:13:14] and has made the governor's job of making a decision difficult.
[00:13:17] کرده
[00:13:23] A woman is an idiot. She is mentally deficient and doesn't understand anything.
[00:13:43] This is the main power base of the Taliban.
[00:13:47] Kandahar is the headquarters of Hibatullah Akhundzada, the leader of this
[00:13:50] group. That's why some consider it the unofficial capital.
[00:13:54] Miss you.
[00:14:53] The years he lived in hiding. Our work was very easy. When my
[00:14:57] face was not exposed, meaning it was not in the media,
[00:15:01] I was very comfortable. I could travel to
[00:15:04] the provinces. I could easily travel on main roads
[00:15:08] and even go to the market and get my own things.
[00:15:12] I could fulfill my needs. After that, when we
[00:15:15] came on screen, our limitations increased, and we faced
[00:15:19] problems. That time was easier.
[00:15:21] Now that the Taliban have come to power,
[00:15:25] he decides to reveal his true identity on camera for the first
[00:15:28] time.
[00:15:30] کند.
[00:15:33] I am Zabiullah Mujahid, spokesman of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
[00:15:38] My real name is different. My name
[00:15:41] is Tahir Shah. Actually, my parents gave
[00:15:44] me this name. I was introduced.
[00:15:46] Siddiqui
[00:15:50] Yes, I see my writings sometimes. Sometimes I have written
[00:15:53] poetry. The previous pseudonym is the previous name. Of course,
[00:15:56] I miss it.
[00:15:59] We really love trade. I used to trade, I was a merchant.
[00:16:02] I liked the profession, but I was more interested
[00:16:06] in education.
[00:16:09] Most Taliban leaders, who lived in hiding for years,
[00:16:13] now have similar confidence. They no
[00:16:16] longer need to hide. The Taliban,
[00:16:19] when they came to power, promised to build an inclusive government.
[00:16:22] Is this still on the agenda? The characteristics of the people
[00:16:26] of Afghanistan are different from the rest of the world.
[00:16:29] The people of Afghanistan do not
[00:16:33] have much tolerance for each other.
[00:16:35] If we gather different political factions,
[00:16:39] I don't think we can build a system together. It will fall apart
[00:16:43] in a few days. Because there is no tolerance
[00:16:46] among Afghans. It's as if a single
[00:16:49] government with one idea is ruling Afghanistan, and they have been given
[00:16:53] that time and opportunity, so other Afghans can
[00:16:56] live.
[00:17:01] While prominent Taliban figures roam freely,
[00:17:04] their opponents are forced to operate in secret.
[00:17:13] Especially women who have been removed from the scene and society.
[00:17:27] And when they fight for their rights, they
[00:17:30] face severe repression. Our main demands
[00:17:33] are the right to participate in society.
[00:17:37] The right to make decisions in government.
[00:17:41] Bread, work, and freedom are always there.
[00:17:45] We say that until we get a positive result
[00:17:48] from our protests, we will not give up
[00:17:51] on our goal.
[00:17:54] Five years ago, at the same time as the Taliban's return to power, this woman
[00:17:58] took to the streets to protest against the Taliban.
[00:18:01] Before the Taliban, she had
[00:18:05] a successful job and was active in society, but now we have to meet
[00:18:08] her in secret. Why do the Taliban want to restrict
[00:18:12] women? I think the Taliban
[00:18:14] are afraid. The Taliban are afraid that when a woman
[00:18:18] understands, she will never bring up
[00:18:22] ignorant people like the Taliban. They don't raise them, they don't
[00:18:25] educate them. That's why the Taliban restrict
[00:18:29] women so that they don't bring up intelligent
[00:18:32] men, and they keep them out of
[00:18:34] the picture. Afghanistan. The Taliban
[00:18:38] government is the only country in the world where teenage
[00:18:41] girls are deprived of going to school.
[00:18:57] These carpet-weaving girls are the second generation
[00:19:00] of women whose education has been prevented
[00:19:04] by the Taliban. Okay.
[00:19:41] These past five years are absolutely irreparable. What hopes were lost?
[00:19:45] I mean, overall, it's absolutely irreparable.
[00:19:48] نیسته
[00:19:51] After the Taliban closed the schools, for a while,
[00:19:55] everyone said it would be like this, then
[00:19:58] we would open them again. In other provinces and other countries,
[00:20:01] they also said it, but now no one says it anymore.
[00:20:04] Everyone is grieving in Afghanistan.
[00:20:33] The narrative of all individuals involved in the 18-year-old woman's divorce case
[00:20:37] has been heard.
[00:22:10] Five years ago, the Taliban said they had changed, but
[00:22:13] Afghanistan under Taliban rule is a country
[00:22:17] in the hands of men and for men.
[00:25:50] In Bamiyan, it became one of the symbols of the Taliban
[00:25:53] during the last government of this group in the early 2000s.
[00:25:57] شد.
[00:27:02] Why are we upset? We are under divine rule.
[00:27:04] هستیم.
[00:27:10] The Taliban government is isolated in the world.
[00:27:13] برد.
[00:27:16] Most people in Afghanistan live in poverty.
[00:27:19] More than two-thirds of the country's population
[00:27:23] is unemployed. And the US has frozen
[00:27:26] billions of dollars of Afghanistan's financial reserves.
[00:27:29] است.
[00:27:36] Afghanistan's contemporary history is full of instability
[00:27:39] and political transformations. It is still unclear how long
[00:27:43] the Taliban government can last.
[00:27:45] But the biggest threat to
[00:27:49] the group's survival lies within
[00:27:52] the Taliban itself.
[00:28:32] Go to the extent of killing. Comprehensive report by Amnesty
[00:28:36] International on the suppression of the Women,
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[00:28:42] September 21, massacres occur. With every tortured person
[00:28:46] and grieving family I spoke to, their eyes
[00:28:50] are on the international community. Our effort to the international community is for them to take
[00:28:53] immediate action before another massacre breaks out. Interview
[00:28:57] with Raha Bahreini, researcher at Amnesty International on
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[00:29:15] learning a language or an instrument, which keep the brain active,
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[00:30:27] علاج, does the government seek to expand suppression and
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[00:30:33] We ask a former writer and political prisoner why
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[00:30:40] has increased. We also ask
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