BBCPERSIAN — broadcast 20261012 040000 UTC 418 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:10] The US bases in Bahrain and Qatar are no longer usable. [00:00:12] Khashayar Jonaidi, our reporter, from our studio in Washington, [00:00:16] is with the program. Khashayar, tell us more about Mr. Trump's statements and American officials' [00:00:19] statements. [00:00:22] We are now in the election campaign period. In [00:00:26] the past few days, Mr. Trump has visited various states [00:00:29] and delivered campaign speeches, and [00:00:32] his message in these speeches is usually one: that [00:00:36] America has the upper hand and will [00:00:38] soon deal with Iran, and the war [00:00:42] will end, and America will be victorious. Yesterday and last night, [00:00:45] he also gave a speech, talking about dealing with a crazy [00:00:49] country, referring to the Iranian government, [00:00:53] of course. And [00:00:56] that they don't understand that I've been lenient with them so far, until the election is over, the war will end very quickly. [00:01:00] And [00:01:03] he said that it's also possible that Iran wants to take action before the American elections, [00:01:07] in which case America will quickly [00:01:11] deal with them and end the matter. These statements by Mr. Trump [00:01:15] are usually repetitive, and we hear them every night. He talks about this [00:01:18] issue in the elections, wanting to reassure his supporters [00:01:22] that he will restore the economic situation [00:01:26] to its pre-war state very quickly. But [00:01:30] today, as is the custom on Sundays, when news [00:01:33] channels invite important guests from important American networks, [00:01:37] Mr. Mnuchin, the US Treasury Secretary, [00:01:40] or rather the Secretary of the Treasury, [00:01:44] it doesn't matter, was a guest on Fox News, [00:01:47] and he was talking about the success [00:01:51] of this economic campaign against Iran and the pressure it is exerting on the Iranian government. [00:01:54] Mr. Mnuchin predicted that Iran, within [00:01:57] two to four months, would reach a point where it would be forced [00:02:01] to accept all of America's conditions, because [00:02:04] the financial pressure on it is very high, and [00:02:08] as I spoke with Mr. Mnuchin's deputy two or three days ago, [00:02:12] he used this expression: "Iran will eventually [00:02:15] kneel before America." These are the statements they are making, of course, and Mr. [00:02:18] Mnuchin predicted that in the continuation of this [00:02:21] campaign and economic pressure, either eventually the Iranian government, [00:02:25] under economic pressure, will accept [00:02:28] America's conditions, [00:02:30] or this continued pressure will cause division within the Revolutionary Guard, [00:02:34] or eventually Tehran will agree to abandon its nuclear program [00:02:38] and enter into negotiations with America. [00:02:41] These were, of course, the statements Mr. Mnuchin was making. He pointed [00:02:45] out that practically it has become very difficult for Iranians to travel [00:02:48] outside of Iran. He said that government officials and elites [00:02:52] of the government no longer find it easy to go to London or Paris or [00:02:56] Switzerland to check on their bank accounts, and they are facing problems. [00:03:00] Criticisms from Democrats [00:03:03] are also frequently heard [00:03:07] from both sides. It seems that they have [00:03:10] significantly increased the level of their criticisms [00:03:14] against Mr. Trump. [00:03:17] The Democrats' criticisms are now [00:03:21] focused on two main axes. [00:03:24] The first axis is the discussion about the recent agreements that Mr. Trump and Mr. [00:03:28] Putin had. [00:03:30] Two days ago, Mr. Trump and Mr. Putin spoke on the phone. Mr. Putin promised Mr. [00:03:34] Trump that he would send 300,000 tons of diesel to the global [00:03:38] markets. This is very important for Mr. Trump [00:03:41] on the eve of the election. He hopes that this [00:03:44] action will help to lower the price of [00:03:47] diesel, especially in America, where it is above $6 per [00:03:51] gallon. Of course, analysts [00:03:54] say that this will not have much effect on the market in the long run. Russia [00:03:57] does not have the ability to do this consistently. However, another [00:04:01] case, another case is Senator Chris Murphy, a [00:04:04] Democratic Senator who traveled to the Middle East last week. [00:04:08] Today, he had an extensive interview on CBS, [00:04:12] and he was saying that [00:04:15] the crisis in the Middle East is getting out of control and is becoming much [00:04:19] more widespread than before. He was referring to the Houthi attacks [00:04:23] on Saudi Arabia. He believed that America and [00:04:26] Saudi Arabia could defend themselves, and America should not get involved in Saudi Arabia's war [00:04:30] with the Houthis, because it would complicate the situation. [00:04:34] He said that Mr. Trump had no preparation for this war [00:04:37] before the war with Iran, and the example he gave, according to him, is that [00:04:40] during the first days of the war, Iran managed to damage two [00:04:44] major US bases in Bahrain and Qatar, which had cost billions [00:04:48] of dollars, and practically [00:04:52] the situation is getting tougher every day. Thank you, Khashayar [00:04:55] Jonaidi, our reporter in [00:04:57] Washington. [00:05:00] says that Russia has once again attacked its energy infrastructure. [00:05:03] Vladimir Zelensky stated in a statement that the Kremlin carried out [00:05:07] this attack exactly after US President Donald Trump claimed [00:05:10] that Moscow and Kyiv had agreed to stop attacks [00:05:14] on each other's energy facilities. Of course, Zelensky also [00:05:18] told the American media Axios that he was unaware of such an agreement [00:05:22] and asked the Trump administration to inform his country [00:05:25] of its details. The President of Ukraine also announced that [00:05:29] in the event of a two-month ceasefire in Ukraine, presidential [00:05:32] elections will be held. [00:05:35] Matthew Bryza, former US Ambassador [00:05:39] to the Republic of Azerbaijan and also. [00:06:13] past, like February 2025, he is repeating [00:06:16] the same thing he has done now. He is not thinking [00:06:20] strategically, he is thinking [00:06:22] about the elections. In a way, President Putin [00:06:26] has brainwashed him in such a way [00:06:29] that he has convinced him that this Zelensky wants to continue [00:06:33] the war. He has convinced him that [00:06:36] for example, Putin [00:06:39] wants to end the war. And [00:06:42] then he has shown that for example, [00:06:46] he has convinced him that he wants to help him lower [00:06:49] the price of diesel on the eve of the midterm elections. That's why I think President Trump [00:06:53] is now really thinking about the political legacy [00:06:57] of the Republican Party and his own political legacy, [00:07:00] rather than the strategic interests of America and [00:07:03] its European allies, instead of thinking about how [00:07:07] to prevent Ukraine from being overrun by Russia. [00:07:11] You [00:07:42] against Ukraine, this is really an imposed war, meaning Russia [00:07:46] can end it whenever it wants. If Zelensky [00:07:49] wants to end the war now, this is the end of Ukraine. But Russia can wage war whenever [00:07:53] it wants. But in connection with Iran, [00:07:57] America can reach [00:08:01] a ceasefire with Iran whenever it wants. The previous [00:08:04] ceasefire also had both sides, after all, I think both [00:08:08] Iran and America, after all, were committed to the main provisions of that agreement. [00:08:34] That's why there is still a lot of room for Iran to negotiate with the Revolutionary Guard, but regarding the issue [00:08:38] of Ukraine and the Russia- Ukraine war, President [00:08:41] Trump himself decided and preferred to side with Putin [00:08:45] because he has always had a general inclination towards Russia and Putin. It seems [00:08:49] that for Mr. Trump, the issue of Iran has become a matter of prestige, [00:08:52] meaning it is difficult for him [00:08:55] to back down from his position and show flexibility, [00:08:59] but why is this not the case for other places? [00:09:02] For example, regarding China, he often shows flexibility. Regarding this [00:09:06] Russia, his opinion was different before. He had said [00:09:09] that he was disappointed with Mr. Putin, but now he is saying things [00:09:13] that Mr. Putin likes, [00:09:16] probably. [00:09:20] Yes, that's a very good question you're asking [00:09:24] me. I don't think anyone can understand [00:09:27] Donald Trump's complex mind, I don't even think he [00:09:31] understands it. I think Donald Trump [00:09:34] totally lacks a strategic mindset. [00:09:38] He's not thinking about America; he's more concerned with Donald Trump. [00:10:25] it will bring Iran to submission, but some of the Iranian government have shown that this [00:10:28] is not true. Thank you very much, Mr. [00:10:32] Bryza, Matthew Bryza, former [00:10:34] US Ambassador to the Republic of Azerbaijan, [00:10:38] as well as former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and [00:10:41] Eurasian Affairs. Flooding in northern Iran in the past two [00:10:45] days has caused road closures, power outages, communication lines [00:10:49] to be cut, and at least one death in Golestan province. [00:10:52] In addition to this province, which suffered the most damage, [00:10:56] Mazandaran, North Khorasan, Ardabil, and Semnan provinces were also [00:11:00] damaged by this flood. Relief workers are continuing their efforts to help flood victims. [00:11:03] This is happening while since the beginning of this year, at least [00:11:07] four people in Iran have lost their lives due to floods and [00:11:10] the resulting damage. Siavash Ardalan reports. [00:11:13] This year, Iran has had good rainfall, [00:11:17] and this is good news for the environment and for [00:11:20] farmers in areas that have been struggling with drought for [00:11:24] years. However, heavy rainfall also [00:11:28] brings disaster and hardship for many. The large amount [00:11:32] of rainfall in the past two days in the northern provinces, extending to [00:11:35] North Khorasan, Semnan, and Ardabil, has caused floods. [00:11:39] In North Khorasan and Ardabil, the damages [00:11:42] were minor, but in the provinces of Golestan and Mazandaran, [00:11:46] the damages were extensive. The Minudasht to Ghal'eh Ghafe [00:11:49] road. The road you are watching [00:11:53] is currently blocked. It has been damaged. [00:11:56] Our highest rainfall in Golestan province [00:11:59] was 147 millimeters. 14 villages [00:12:02] on the Ghal'eh Ghafe road are now blocked, and [00:12:06] 19 of our villages have had their power cut. The Crisis Management Organization [00:12:10] throughout this period. The head of the Crisis Management Organization today [00:12:13] defended his organization's performance among reporters. [00:12:16] Flooding happens, [00:12:19] unfortunately, but it is not immune to their critical questions. [00:12:23] One of the reasons why [00:12:27] rainfall causes floods, apart from the intensity [00:12:30] of the rainfall, is human encroachment on nature and the ecosystem. [00:12:34] Encroachment on riverbanks, [00:12:37] improper water management, hundreds of reasons for agriculture, [00:12:41] and in the northern provinces, fish farming, and also [00:12:45] not dredging rivers in time. Since the beginning of this [00:12:48] year, various parts of Iran have witnessed dozens of floods. [00:12:52] From the beginning of the year until today, [00:12:57] which is the beginning of the water year, [00:12:59] we have had 35 floods resulting in damage in [00:13:02] various parts of the country, and unfortunately, until [00:13:06] today, four of our compatriots have died [00:13:09] due to floods, and all four of them [00:13:13] were in Golestan province. And we still have two missing [00:13:16] people in Golestan province due to floods, [00:13:19] and searches are still ongoing. Among the two women who went [00:13:23] missing yesterday in Minudasht county, one was found [00:13:26] a few hours ago with the help of rescue forces. [00:13:30] It is predicted [00:13:33] that in the coming days, the southern and southeastern provinces on [00:13:36] the Zagros foothills will also experience heavy rainfall. [00:13:39] These are provinces that have previously been subjected to severe [00:13:43] and deadly floods. With the intensification [00:13:46] of climate change and the El Niño phenomenon, drought on one hand [00:13:50] and floods on the other, will affect many [00:13:53] local communities around the world. [00:13:57] Siavash Ardalan, BBC. [00:14:00] The war and its resulting crises [00:14:03] in recent months have had a profound impact on children and teenagers [00:14:07] in Iran. Many families are concerned about the increased anxiety [00:14:10] among their children and don't know how to explain [00:14:14] the situation to their children. A question [00:14:17] that is often asked is how to talk to children [00:14:21] and teenagers about the possibility of another attack on Iran. [00:14:25] At the same time, the head of the Iranian Society of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry said that [00:14:29] during the recent crises, school dropout and suicide attempts [00:14:32] have increased. Let's hear a part of the statements of Javad Alaqeband, [00:14:36] the head of the Iranian Society of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, [00:14:40] and we will discuss this further. [00:14:43] You said what problems have increased during the war, right? [00:14:47] Well, I don't remember any systematic [00:14:50] study or a study that has fully investigated it being done by you. [00:14:53] انجامش داده باشه شما. [00:15:26] And this phenomenon, which was observed during Corona and after Corona all [00:15:29] over the world, now in [00:15:32] America, their official statistics show that 20% of the [00:15:36] students. [00:16:11] Mental and stress at Wayne State University in Detroit, [00:16:14] America, is with us. Welcome to the program, Mr. [00:16:17] Javanbakht. Well, the main challenge is really how to talk [00:16:21] to children, especially in the situation [00:16:24] in Iran, where the level of war [00:16:27] may escalate again, [00:16:31] and we may witness events similar to what we saw [00:16:34] in the past year or two. Thank you very much. [00:16:37] Well, this is a situation that can be said to be one of the worst [00:16:41] situations a country can be in, and it contains many [00:16:44] unknowns and lack of control. [00:16:46] The first step is to accept that [00:16:50] both parents themselves are in very difficult situations, and [00:16:54] also that children, teenagers, what we know [00:16:57] is that especially younger [00:17:00] children, as well as teenagers, much of their understanding [00:17:04] of the level of danger, the level of badness [00:17:06] of the situation, the level of difficulties, [00:17:10] their outlook is influenced by their parents. So the more agitated [00:17:14] and anxious the parents are, and the more they are looking at social media [00:17:17] and expressing these negative [00:17:20] events, the more fear and despair the children will have. Therefore, I know [00:17:24] it's very difficult, but one of the most important things a parent can do is [00:17:27] to not express those negative [00:17:31] emotions too much in front of the children. Much of the sense of security that children [00:17:34] can feel comes from their parents. And well, we don't [00:17:38] want to lie. I mean, the first step is to listen to the child. Many [00:17:42] times, I remember children, for example, say something, and the parents say, "No, it's not important." For example, "No, that child" well, they [00:17:46] understand and go look for someone else to answer them. [00:17:49] Therefore, the most important first step is listening. That [00:17:53] is, just listening by itself does a lot for any person, [00:17:56] and even more so for children. When we have heard [00:18:00] their concerns and pains, [00:18:04] the next step is to give them the necessary sense of security. [00:18:09] See, for example, here in this city where we are, the possibility of an attack is much less. [00:18:13] Here, even if there is an attack in war, usually the places they hit [00:18:17] are not people's homes, but military centers. The war is between military [00:18:21] forces. And then the areas we can control, because [00:18:24] unfortunately, this situation takes away from many people the feeling of control. [00:18:28] It's true that we cannot control many things, who might attack from the other side, [00:18:32] who might cut this off, this problem might arise. But there are things we [00:18:36] can control, those routines of the family. Let's sit together and [00:18:39] watch a movie, eat this food together, even if the parents' spirits [00:18:43] may not be good. But it's important that they go together. We go to [00:18:47] the park every Saturday or Friday. Let's maintain these routines. [00:18:50] Where we can control, we have more control. [00:18:53] Very well, Mr. Doctor, it has been [00:18:56] said that school dropout has increased, and even suicide attempts [00:19:00] have increased. In such cases, people usually [00:19:03] consult specialists like you. Now, the economic situation is also very bad. How [00:19:07] much in this economic situation is [00:19:11] counseling available for a middle-class family [00:19:14] or even lower-middle class? [00:19:16] هست [00:19:18] Unfortunately, since I am outside of Iran, I don't have information, but [00:19:22] wherever it's possible to see a counselor, even if it's [00:19:26] a wise person in the family [00:19:29] who has more peace and more self-control, [00:19:33] or a teacher who can be a sympathetic listener. [00:19:47] Because there are some things that the family itself cannot do. There are some red flags [00:19:50] when a child isolates themselves, feels guilty, [00:19:54] feels useless. In such [00:19:58] circumstances, Dr., we have access to you now. Do you [00:20:01] have any message for young people [00:20:05] and teenagers and in fact, [00:20:08] if you can give [00:20:10] that advice in general? I want to say this without any hesitation. [00:20:14] I left Iran about 18 years ago, [00:20:17] and I want to say that this generation that I am seeing, this [00:20:21] generation of teenagers and young people that I am seeing now, is not [00:20:24] comparable to my generation. That is, you are much [00:20:28] wiser than us, much bolder, much [00:20:31] more resourceful, more capable than us. I know [00:20:35] it's very difficult, I know there are many things you don't control. [00:20:38] I know there are many disappointments in [00:20:41] the environment. But look, this is a country that has overcome these [00:20:45] difficulties for centuries and has continued, and [00:20:48] your generation has the power. The social changes you have created [00:20:52] and achieved, my generation could not even imagine. [00:20:56] I say this without hesitation. If my generation was able to survive, [00:21:00] I see a much brighter future for you than for my [00:21:03] generation, and do you think there is specifically something they should [00:21:07] do? Very briefly, we have one minute. [00:21:11] Wherever they can control, talk, don't be alone, [00:21:14] talk with friends. If you want to complain, [00:21:18] be with each other, with your family, with anyone who listens, talk [00:21:21] to them. If your friend is in this situation, [00:21:25] go to their house and talk to them. We know that this social [00:21:29] support and social assistance is one of the most important factors that reduces [00:21:33] despair, depression, thoughts of death, and where [00:21:37] you can control and as much as you can, you can exercise, you can go [00:21:40] out together, I don't know, eat food somewhere, you can go to the park together, whatever [00:21:44] you can. The lesson you can learn, learn it. The ability you can have, [00:21:48] the skill, whatever you can. The more you do what you can control, [00:21:52] the less difficult it will be. Thank you very, very much, Mr. [00:21:56] Doctor Javanbakht. Dr. Arash Javanbakht, a psychiatrist specializing in [00:21:59] anxiety, is with us from Detroit, [00:22:02] USA. [00:22:05] Nine months after the suppression of the latest wave of protests in [00:22:08] Iran, a number of mothers who lost their children in the January [00:22:12] massacre have released videos in which [00:22:15] they place nine apples next to pictures of their children and talk about [00:22:19] their burial places during this time. These apples [00:22:22] symbolize nine months of pregnancy and the maternal [00:22:25] hopes and dreams that today have given way [00:22:29] to mourning for justice. Let's watch some of these images together [00:22:32] with this warning that the content of what we [00:22:36] see may be disturbing for many of our viewers. [00:22:40] باشه. [00:22:42] My dear son, you grew in my being. [00:22:46] Nine months you grew in my being. [00:22:51] With joy, with [00:22:54] love, with [00:22:56] hope, with [00:22:58] a smile, with impatience, [00:23:02] with [00:23:04] life, [00:23:06] longing, [00:23:09] anticipation, [00:23:11] embrace, [00:23:14] you grew up, you became big, you came [00:23:16] into the world. It's been nine months since you're gone. [00:23:21] And here I have arranged nine apples [00:23:24] for you. [00:23:28] My dear daughter, I offer these scattered flowers [00:23:31] to you, [00:23:34] my scattered daughter. [00:23:36] شدم [00:23:41] I will not forget [00:23:42] you, [00:23:46] nor will my longing for you lessen. [00:23:51] And I will not forgive the oppression [00:23:54] that was inflicted upon you [00:23:57] and your dreams. [00:23:59] بخشم. [00:24:02] Nine months waiting for your arrival. [00:24:06] Nine months eagerly awaiting to [00:24:10] see you. Nine flowers to count the days [00:24:13] of waiting. [00:24:16] The sweetness of your arrival. [00:24:32] My dear child, for nine months you were in my womb, you were part of my being, mother, until you grew up. [00:24:36] I never separated from you. Wherever you went, [00:24:40] I followed you. [00:24:43] Now, for nine months, you've been away from me. In that state, when [00:24:46] you were shot, let me circle your head. [00:24:50] Blood was coming from your mouth, you didn't let me know. Until that last moment, [00:24:54] you were taking care of me. You were a very [00:24:57] good child. They took you from me in the most cruel [00:25:00] way possible. Now it's been nine months since you're gone. Nine months [00:25:04] that days pass, and I still don't understand how the world [00:25:07] continues without you. [00:25:10] How does morning come? How do people laugh? How do they live [00:25:14] when a mother has to endure the absence of her daughter [00:25:18] and a piece of her being [00:25:22] has been torn away, when all her heart was tied to her presence? [00:25:25] No mother should have to [00:25:29] kiss [00:25:32] her child's picture instead of her face, instead of hearing [00:25:35] her voice, she relives her memories, and instead of embracing [00:25:38] her, she lives with her emptiness. And [00:25:41] finally, for the light of your existence, which even [00:25:45] when you left me, remained bright in my heart [00:25:49] and in my land. For the light of your [00:25:52] existence, which did not extinguish with your departure, [00:25:55] and that light is now burning in my heart and in the hearts [00:25:58] of many others, and [00:26:02] the meaning of being a mother for me now is to [00:26:06] keep your name and memory alive. [00:26:09] I am proud of [00:26:12] you, my daughter, today, tomorrow, and [00:26:15] as long as I live, breathe. [00:26:19] Sleep now, for tonight behind this [00:26:23] window night [00:26:25] lurks. [00:26:29] Thank you for watching 60 Minutes until the end. You can watch [00:26:32] this program and our previous programs on the BBC Persian website [00:26:36] as well as on our YouTube channel. I should also add [00:26:40] that parts of this program will also be available [00:26:43] on our social media accounts, including our X account, [00:26:47] and you can get the audio version or podcast [00:26:51] of this program on our Telegram. You can also [00:26:55] get it on podcast apps. Thank you for your [00:26:58] companionship. [00:30:20] Headlines: [00:30:23] The number of ships increased. Yesterday's Houthi attack on Riyadh airport increased to [00:30:26] 13. Riyadh and Dammam airports were targeted again today. [00:30:30] هدف قرار گرفتند. [00:30:33] US Army fired at a commercial ship in the Strait of Hormuz. CENTCOM [00:30:37] says it violated Iran's naval blockade despite warnings. 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