BBCPERSIAN — broadcast 20261105 033000 UTC 482 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:23] The fall of the strong Republican fortresses in the [00:00:26] US midterm elections. Democrats took both. [00:00:30] The houses of Congress were theirs. [00:00:31] Trump and Vance [00:00:37] admit that the war affected the defeat [00:00:41] of Republicans. The US president still defends his decision to attack [00:00:44] Iran. [00:00:45] John Asal's reaction to the results of the US midterm elections. [00:00:51] From expressing confidence in the continuation of hostility in a message [00:00:55] آمریکا از ابراز اطمینان به تداوم دشمنی در پیام [00:00:59] attributed to Mrs. Khamenei to an interpretation of it as a negative vote [00:01:02] against war by Qalib. [00:01:06] Tonight, with our guests, we will discuss the main questions. What changes will this [00:01:10] result bring to the balance of power within the US, [00:01:13] and more importantly, what impact will it have on Trump's policy towards [00:01:17] Iran and the possibility of effective attacks? [00:01:20] The first [00:01:30] Muslim Arab-American [00:01:33] to enter the US Senate, Abdul Sayyid, [00:01:36] the left-wing Democratic candidate in Michigan, [00:01:40] won. [00:01:40] Positive reaction of financial markets [00:01:47] and the victory of Democrats in [00:01:50] America. Did the Trump administration lose the midterm elections [00:01:54] due to the increase in the cost of living? [00:01:56] Hello and welcome to another [00:02:42] consequences will affect US politics for years to come, disrupted [00:02:46] the political calculations of Donald Trump [00:02:50] and the Republican Party. By winning in key [00:02:53] states, they took control [00:02:57] of both houses of Congress, a result that has even led to [00:03:00] accusations within the Republican Party being pointed [00:03:04] at the President. J. D. Vance, Trump's [00:03:08] deputy, explicitly attributed the defeat of Republicans to the war [00:03:12] with Iran and said that voters want a change in America's [00:03:15] relationship with Israel. With the victory of Democrats in this [00:03:18] election, will America's policy towards Iran change? [00:03:22] Can the result of this election prevent Trump's decision to launch [00:03:25] military attacks, or on the contrary, [00:03:29] might it [00:03:38] joined us from the US Congress. Khashayar, tell us about the reactions. [00:03:41] It was a historic day for [00:03:45] America itself. [00:03:46] It was a historic day, [00:03:49] and Democrats made history, but [00:03:53] part of the credit for this history-making by Democrats should [00:03:56] go to Mr. Trump. When you talk to analysts and [00:04:01] so-called political scientists, they talk about how yesterday's vote by the American [00:04:05] people and Democrats was in fact [00:04:09] a big no to Mr. Trump's policies. [00:04:13] Polls at the ballot boxes showed that [00:04:16] 39% said that the biggest [00:04:20] problem they have, the dissatisfaction they have, is the economic situation. [00:04:23] When we talk about the price of gasoline and [00:04:26] energy carriers, the price of food, [00:04:30] the cost of lawsuits and treatments, when you look at all of these, [00:04:33] a large part of it is due to the pressure that the war [00:04:37] with Iran or the war with Iran has put on energy markets. [00:04:40] Today, as you mentioned, J. D. [00:04:44] Vance, Mr. Trump's deputy, published a detailed [00:04:47] article on the social network X. It seems to [00:04:50] me that Republicans are self-examining to see what caused [00:04:54] their defeat, and he points out that the war with Iran [00:04:57] played an important role [00:05:00] in the defeat of Republicans. Mr. Trump was asked about this [00:05:04] a few moments ago. He confirmed Mr. Vance's words, [00:05:08] but said that if he went back, he would still decide [00:05:11] to go to war with Iran. [00:05:14] Anyway, Republicans suffered a heavy blow, [00:05:17] but Mr. Trump himself also faced a heavy [00:05:21] blow. Two years of his presidency remain. [00:05:24] In the American political [00:05:27] tradition, a president who, in the second half of his [00:05:30] presidency, due to the midterm elections, faces [00:05:34] a Congress that plays an opposing tune, a Congress whose [00:05:37] majority is held by his opponents, this president [00:05:41] is called a lame duck. [00:05:43] He practically can't get much done, except through [00:05:46] a lot of concessions and compromises with Democrats. [00:05:50] But the important question for many, especially Iranian [00:05:54] audiences, is what impact the US midterm [00:05:57] elections will have on this conflict between Iran and America, [00:06:01] a war that is not yet over, [00:06:04] peace has not been established, but no severe confrontation [00:06:08] is taking place either. What will be the result for this war? My colleague, [00:06:12] Mahnoush Pourzaiaei, is here with me, here in the US Capitol Building, [00:06:15] and I want to ask Mahnoush a question. Mahnoush, considering [00:06:19] what has happened, [00:06:21] what will be the outcome of this war and Mr. Trump's decision in this regard? [00:06:25] We don't know the outcome of the war, but [00:06:28] on Monday, Khashayar, the House and [00:06:31] Senate will resume their work. For another two [00:06:34] months, until the new members arrive, the composition [00:06:38] of Congress will be the same as before. What will happen in these [00:06:42] two months? In this period, Mr. Trump [00:06:45] still has the authority and power to make any decision [00:06:48] he wants. He is still the Commander-in-Chief. The same will be true after January and the new [00:06:52] Congress, but Democrats have gained new life [00:06:56] because they know the situation will only last for two [00:06:59] more months. Republicans [00:07:03] are also, on the one hand, looking for self-reflection, as you said, [00:07:06] because of the defeat they suffered, and they are looking [00:07:10] for ways to repair their political future. Therefore, [00:07:14] it is possible that Democrats and Republicans, at least some [00:07:18] of them who no longer see their political future tied to Mr. Trump, [00:07:22] may be able to form alliances [00:07:25] in some cases and impose restrictions [00:07:29] on the escalation of the war in front of Mr. Trump. [00:07:32] These restrictions can generally be budgetary restrictions, [00:07:36] which are essentially Mr. Trump's war chest, [00:07:40] and prevent [00:07:42] the approval of new appropriations for the Pentagon. [00:07:46] This issue is very important right [00:07:50] now. American military forces in the Persian Gulf and around [00:07:53] the Strait of Hormuz cost nearly [00:07:56] one billion dollars a day, if I'm not [00:08:00] In any case, the next two just their food [00:08:03] alone costs a lot, let alone weapons, military readiness, [00:08:07] and all these things that are happening need money. [00:08:10] And if this money doesn't come from Congress and is limited, [00:08:14] it will at least tie Mr. Trump's hands. [00:08:18] I saw that right now, Ms. Yasmin Ansari, [00:08:22] a Democratic representative from Arizona who is of Iranian origin [00:08:25] and has been re-elected, is talking again about impeaching [00:08:29] Secretary of Defense Mattis. [00:08:32] And it seems that the Democratic Congress wants to use this [00:08:35] leverage against Mr. Trump to gain concessions. [00:08:39] years will not be easy for [00:08:43] Mr. Trump. He will have many problems, but we have to [00:08:46] see if Democrats can use this opportunity they have gained [00:08:50] to their advantage to [00:08:54] take the White House from Republicans in two [00:08:57] years, in addition to Congress, or not. [00:09:13] expressed satisfaction with the heavy defeat of Donald Trump's [00:09:17] party in the US midterm elections and considered it a sign [00:09:20] of American voters' opposition to war against Iran. [00:09:24] A message attributed to the leader of the Islamic Republic, [00:09:27] however, says there is no difference between the two [00:09:31] main parties in the US in their hostility towards Iran. This [00:09:34] is while Tehran is still on alert, concerned [00:09:38] about the possibility of renewed US and Israeli military [00:09:41] attacks. Saeed Barzin, an analyst of Iranian political [00:09:44] issues, is with us. Mr. Barzin, welcome [00:09:48] to the program. How much do you think the result [00:09:52] of this election goes back to Iran, [00:09:55] to what happened in the war with Iran? Mr. Vance, Mr. Trump's [00:09:58] deputy, somehow considers it the main reason [00:10:02] for this defeat. What is your [00:10:04] view? Look, everything in [00:10:08] the current situation depends on Trump's behavior [00:10:11] and the behavior. [00:10:25] They can definitively say which way we are going. On the one [00:10:28] hand, Trump has two months [00:10:32] until the new Congress begins its work. [00:10:35] It is possible that during this time, especially [00:10:39] with Israel's support, he will continue his war [00:10:43] and launch another widespread attack, [00:10:47] even for revenge, for example, against Iran. But on the [00:10:50] other hand, pay attention that the pressure [00:10:53] of the elections, the pressure of the Republican [00:10:56] Party itself, internal disagreements [00:10:59] among Republican Party officials, and economic [00:11:03] pressure will be an obstacle that will prevent him from [00:11:07] starting a new war. He himself has even admitted that one [00:11:10] of the reasons for the defeat in these elections was [00:11:13] the issue of Iran. I think that the issue should be [00:11:16] seen in its broader context. Look, when [00:11:20] Hamas attacked, that regrettable armed [00:11:23] uprising that Mr. Sinwar started, [00:11:26] after that, Israel came and said [00:11:29] that we want to overthrow the Islamic Republic. [00:11:33] Overthrow the Islamic Republic and send Iran [00:11:36] back to the Stone Age. Israeli officials [00:11:40] said that, and their plan for this is long-term [00:11:43] and attrition-based economic pressure, [00:11:46] through which they can bring [00:11:50] the masses of people in Iran, unemployment, [00:11:52] inflation, [00:11:55] back to the streets again, and along with that, [00:11:59] with economic pressure, continue [00:12:02] the asymmetric war, meaning attack [00:12:06] nuclear facilities, military [00:12:09] facilities, assassinate commanders, assassinate political [00:12:13] leaders, I don't know, [00:12:16] attack Pasteur Institute, attack bridges, and continue [00:12:19] this asymmetric war to collapse the Islamic [00:12:23] Republic and to send Iran back to the Stone [00:12:27] Age, like Gaza and Syria. Now, whether Trump [00:12:30] will be willing to continue this plan with Mr. Netanyahu [00:12:34] or not, I think it's still too early, [00:12:37] and we don't have a clear [00:12:40] answer for that. This is also one of those questions [00:12:44] whose answer is very important, but as you said, [00:12:47] whatever we say right now is nothing [00:12:50] more than speculation. Mr. Barzin, Iranian [00:12:54] officials who are seeing the results of this [00:12:57] election last night in Iran, and many of them [00:13:00] have expressed satisfaction with these conditions [00:13:04] on the current X Twitter. How do you think they can [00:13:08] use this issue to their advantage right [00:13:11] now, if they want to? Look, [00:13:15] I think that the Islamic Republic [00:13:19] is very systematically pursuing two [00:13:22] strategies. It is pursuing two scenarios [00:13:26] in the current situation. One is [00:13:30] military deterrence, and the other is dialogue [00:13:34] and negotiation. Do you understand? [00:13:37] Military deterrence means that they have officially, [00:13:40] powerfully, and transparently said, [00:13:43] "Mr. United States, Mr. [00:13:46] Israeli government, if you want to start [00:13:49] an existential war against us, [00:13:52] we will respond in [00:14:03] a way that we will not be confined to a specific [00:14:06] geography. We will hit your interests in Europe, we will hit them [00:14:10] in East Asia, we will hit them in Latin America. The [00:14:14] response will be massive, and we will hit all [00:14:18] your assets, not just military bases, planes, artillery, [00:14:21] and tanks. We will also hit your internet [00:14:25] companies, and we will use the Strait of Hormuz [00:14:28] as a lever. We will send divers to plant [00:14:32] bombs and blow up your ships. We will create problems for [00:14:35] you, we will sabotage, and any country that allows [00:14:39] you to pass planes through here or take off planes [00:14:43] from here, we will attack its infrastructure, we will [00:14:46] cut its internet cables, we will destroy its desalinization [00:14:50] plant, we will target its port, and a psychological [00:14:54] and propaganda war. These are the things that the Islamic [00:14:57] Republic brings up in order to prevent [00:15:01] another war from breaking out in Iran. [00:15:04] That is, [00:15:06] they are pursuing their military deterrence in this way, in my [00:15:10] opinion, to prevent another war from [00:15:12] happening. If the Islamic Republic [00:15:16] is to pursue such a policy, [00:15:19] how successful do you think it can [00:15:22] be? I understand what you are saying. [00:15:26] All these threats are being made to prevent another war [00:15:29] from happening, but we know that the US president still [00:15:33] has two months. Even if he doesn't want to [00:15:37] work with this new Congress, the current Congress will be [00:15:41] in power for another two months, and he will have no [00:15:45] problem. Even after that, if he wants to attack, [00:15:48] no one can stop him. In that [00:15:52] case, what do you think the officials of the Islamic Republic [00:15:55] have predicted for that situation? [00:15:59] Look, I think that the deterrence of the officials [00:16:02] of the Islamic Republic is what they are talking about. [00:16:05] They will pursue military deterrence with full power, [00:16:09] but they know that military deterrence is not enough, [00:16:13] and for this reason, they will also pursue [00:16:16] negotiation, deal-making, and diplomacy. Do you understand? The fundamental [00:16:20] problem we are facing now is that there is a deep [00:16:24] history of mistrust between the US and Iran. [00:16:27] The JCPOA was negotiated for several years, [00:16:31] a deal was made, it failed. They were negotiating, [00:16:34] and the US and Israel carried out an illegal [00:16:38] 12-day aggression. They were negotiating, [00:16:41] and the US and Israel carried out an illegal [00:16:44] 40-day aggression. And therefore, in the [00:16:48] current situation, the initial steps that must be taken [00:16:51] for negotiation, deal-making, and dialogue are [00:16:55] initial confidence-building measures, and confidence-building [00:16:58] must proceed step by step, inch by inch. [00:17:02] Do you understand? We cannot solve all the problems [00:17:06] between two countries at once, and [00:17:09] these commitments that are made must be implemented, meaning [00:17:13] if one side makes a commitment for something, it must [00:17:17] implement it. Leverage against [00:17:20] leverage, action against action, and this can [00:17:23] create changes [00:17:27] in the real political space of relations [00:17:30] between the two countries and move things forward. As I see it, [00:17:34] if you read Iranian newspapers these days, from hardline [00:17:50] newspapers to centrist newspapers like Shargh and Etemad, you will see that they are very complexly, precisely, and instructively considering the possibility of dialogue, [00:17:53] meaning now Mr. Pezeshkian, as the president of the country, [00:17:57] says that we are ready for negotiations. [00:18:01] Javan newspaper also says that the opportunity [00:18:04] for agreement should not be missed. The only [00:18:08] danger I see here is that Iranian hardliners, [00:18:11] the extremist current, my last point, [00:18:13] extremist currents in Iran might think that [00:18:17] Trump's defeat is an opportunity to put negotiations [00:18:20] aside and prioritize the military leverage and [00:18:24] military deterrence [00:18:38] the US has had various military movements in the Middle East. [00:18:41] Some American media reported that Washington's goal in this activity [00:18:45] is preparation for effective attacks on Iran. Farzaneh Sefikaran from the [00:18:49] BBC Persian fact-checking section reviewed the recent military [00:18:52] movements of the US Army. [00:18:55] In recent days, coinciding with the approach of the US [00:18:58] midterm elections, various reports have been published about the [00:19:02] transfer of military equipment by the US Army, including [00:19:05] air defense systems, to the Middle East and the [00:19:09] possibility of renewed attacks on Iran after the [00:19:12] elections. In the latest case, the Israeli news [00:19:16] agency Kan reported that 10 US Air Force transport [00:19:19] aircraft, as part of a larger air convoy in the Middle East [00:19:23] that is supposed to move military equipment throughout [00:19:27] the region, have been deployed [00:19:30] to Israeli Air Force bases. [00:19:33] According to this report, the planes took off from [00:19:36] here, meaning Fort Bliss in Texas, [00:19:40] and are likely carrying air defense systems, [00:19:43] and the purpose of their transfer is to protect [00:19:47] US regional positions and facilities. [00:19:50] Fort Bliss is one of the largest [00:19:53] warehouses for US Army air defense equipment. [00:19:56] For this reason, it is likely that US Army aircraft were [00:20:00] sent to resupply the air defense interceptor [00:20:04] missiles stationed in Israel. [00:20:08] Missiles used in air defense systems such [00:20:12] as THAAD and Patriot. In recent months, various [00:20:15] reports have also been published showing that the [00:20:19] missiles of these systems have significantly decreased [00:20:22] due to the war with Iran. In [00:20:25] a report published by Israeli media, it was not specified [00:20:29] what type of transport aircraft were transferred to Israel. [00:20:33] However, it is likely that these aircraft are C-35 Super [00:20:36] Galaxy and C-17 Globemaster, or a combination [00:20:40] of both, because only these aircraft have the ability [00:20:43] to carry such heavy payloads. [00:20:47] Our investigations in the fact-checking section [00:20:51] through the Flight Radar website also show that in [00:20:54] recent days, several US military transport [00:20:58] aircraft, including the C-17 Globemaster, have entered [00:21:01] the Middle East, and some have also [00:21:04] left the Middle East. Last week, the Wall [00:21:08] Street Journal also reported that the US Army is [00:21:11] transferring Patriot air and missile defense [00:21:14] systems from Texas to the Middle East. [00:21:18] The Patriot system [00:21:20] includes radar equipment, a control station, [00:21:24] missile launchers, and interceptor missiles, [00:21:27] and according to US officials interviewed by the Wall [00:21:30] Street Journal, they are being transferred to the Middle [00:21:34] East to strengthen US defense capabilities and [00:21:38] as part of preparations for a possible increase [00:21:41] in tensions. We had previously reported, based on satellite [00:21:45] images, that Iran has been able to target some US [00:21:49] air defense systems in countries like Jordan, [00:21:52] Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates during the 40-day [00:21:56] war. For example, these two [00:22:00] images are related to the Shahid Muwafaq air base [00:22:04] in Jordan and Prince Sultan air base in Saudi Arabia. [00:22:07] In the top image, it is clear that the radar of a THAAD [00:22:11] missile system at Shahid Muwafaq base was targeted [00:22:15] and destroyed in the early days of the war with Iran. [00:22:18] The price of this radar is said to be around [00:22:22] 500 million dollars, and in the bottom image, at [00:22:26] Prince Sultan air base, which is from early March [00:22:30] this year, it is said that a severely burned radar and [00:22:33] remnants of equipment are scattered [00:22:36] around it. [00:22:39] However, in addition to all these cases, in mid- [00:22:42] August this year, the US Central Command, [00:22:46] or CENTCOM, announced the formation of the first offensive task [00:22:51] force called Falcon Strike Task Force, [00:22:55] in cooperation with regional partners. This is the first [00:22:59] dedicated squadron of the US Army for deploying [00:23:02] one-way attack drones in the Middle East. [00:23:05] And last but not least, this satellite [00:23:09] image, which is from today, shows the USS Theodore [00:23:13] Roosevelt warship in the South China Sea, moving [00:23:16] westward, meaning towards [00:23:20] the CENTCOM area of responsibility in the Middle East. With [00:23:22] the arrival of the Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier [00:23:26] in the Middle East, the number of US aircraft [00:23:29] carriers stationed near Iran will reach three. [00:23:32] Of course, for now, speculation is that this ship will [00:23:36] go to the CENTCOM region, and no confirmed report [00:23:39] has been published about this yet. All these [00:23:42] military developments, however, in the months and weeks [00:23:46] leading up to the US elections, have increased speculation [00:23:50] about the possibility of renewed attacks on Iran after the midterm [00:23:54] elections. That was Farzaneh Seyfikaran. [00:23:57] My colleague Behrang Tajdin is also here with us to give [00:24:01] us the latest details of the Congress election results. Many [00:24:04] polls predicted that the 2026 midterm elections would [00:24:08] result in a Democratic victory, but few [00:24:12] expected their victory to be [00:24:14] so widespread. You can see that they won the majority [00:24:18] in both the Senate and the House of Representatives, even though [00:24:22] the results of dozens of seats in this House are still [00:24:25] unknown. 35 seats in the US Senate [00:24:28] were up for election, and these [00:24:32] are the results. The blue [00:24:34] ones were won by Democrats, and the red ones [00:24:38] by Republicans. The striped states are where seats [00:24:42] changed hands between the two parties. Let's start [00:24:44] with a historic victory in Kansas, [00:24:47] a state whose Senate seats [00:24:51] had been held by Republicans since 1932, almost [00:24:55] a century ago. But a moderate pastor named [00:24:58] Adam Hamilton changed this trend [00:25:01] in favor of the Democrats after nine [00:25:04] minutes and won by about four percent. [00:25:08] Another significant state and another significant [00:25:11] Democratic victory was in Texas, [00:25:14] a religious and conservative state that is considered [00:25:18] a traditional Republican stronghold. But James Talarico [00:25:22] managed to defeat Donald Trump's endorsed [00:25:25] candidate, Compton, by about a million votes, [00:25:28] almost 12 percent. For more than three decades, [00:25:32] Democrats had not had a representative from Texas [00:25:36] in the US Senate, but even more unexpectedly, [00:25:39] the Democrats won in South Carolina, [00:25:43] where until a few months ago, Lindsey Graham [00:25:46] was the senator, someone who had been [00:25:50] active in recent years in the discussion of US policy [00:25:53] towards Iran and was considered a strong advocate [00:25:57] of a US-Israel war with Iran. Of course, Mr. Graham passed [00:26:00] away a few months ago. His [00:26:08] sister, with support, achieved their first victory [00:26:10] in such an election in South Carolina in almost [00:26:14] 28 years. Democrats also [00:26:17] won Senate seats in other states, including Iowa, [00:26:21] Ohio, where J.D. Vance was the senator [00:26:24] just two years ago, North Carolina, [00:26:28] and Maine. They were also able to take those seats [00:26:31] from Republicans. Only two states remain. One is [00:26:35] Mississippi, where after counting nearly 1 [00:26:38] million votes, the difference between the Democratic candidate [00:26:41] and the Republican candidate is about 65 votes. [00:26:45] It is so close that the result may take [00:26:48] a long time. The other is Alaska, where the Democratic [00:26:52] candidate is ahead of his rival by about 626 [00:26:55] votes. But alongside these, a significant historical [00:26:59] event also happened in Michigan, a state [00:27:03] whose seat had been held by Democrats for almost half [00:27:07] a century, but in a close [00:27:09] internal competition, Abdul-Rahman Syed, [00:27:13] known as Abdul al-Sayyid, as they say in America, [00:27:16] was able to win the Democratic Party's [00:27:19] nomination for this seat in the party's internal [00:27:23] election, and now he becomes the first [00:27:26] Muslim senator in American history. With this, so far, Democrats [00:27:29] have been able to add seven seats [00:27:32] to their Senate seats, and this [00:27:36] means that Democrats will control the majority [00:27:39] of this House and the House [00:27:42] of Representatives for the next two [00:27:45] years. This blue wave of Democratic victories [00:27:49] in Congress could make things more difficult for [00:27:52] Donald Trump in the last two years of his presidency [00:27:55] in some ways. [00:27:57] Thank you, [00:28:00] Behrang. Behrang Tajdin was [00:28:02] telling us about this blue wave. But for more discussion [00:28:06] on this, Anne Green, a Republican [00:28:09] strategist, former speechwriter for George [00:28:13] W. Bush, and also senior director of the White [00:28:16] House Writers Group consulting center, is with us [00:28:19] from Washington. How did you see [00:28:22] this result? How much could such a thing be [00:28:26] predicted from your perspective? Many polls said that Democrats [00:28:30] would win, but with what difference? [00:29:02] his party, another party defeats him, [00:29:05] but this time we saw a very great [00:29:09] acquittal of Donald Trump's policies. [00:29:13] voters [00:29:16] whether it's fuel costs or immigration [00:29:20] or living costs, it seems that a lot of chaos [00:29:23] has happened that Donald Trump has not addressed. [00:29:27] Of course, he did address his promise to [00:29:30] close the borders. He did address it and he acted [00:29:34] on it, but really the Department [00:29:38] of Homeland Security has been [00:29:42] very aggressive and offensive in its [00:29:45] behavior, and these behaviors [00:29:49] and [00:29:51] the way immigrants have been treated have disappointed many of his voters. [00:29:55] He probably saw Mr. Vance's [00:29:58] tweet and post. He [00:30:03] mentions four reasons why the Republicans lost [00:30:07] in these elections, and the most important one from his perspective [00:30:11] is the war with Iran, and finally he says we need to change our strategy, [00:30:14] change our policy towards Israel. [00:30:18] How much do you agree with him? It seems that views [00:30:22] in America are more or less changing on many [00:30:25] issues that were previously taken very seriously, like this [00:30:29] relationship with Israel.