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[00:00:44] the
[00:00:45] daily
[00:00:49] election issues that disrupted the balance of power
[00:00:53] in America. What does the composition of the future Congress
[00:00:57] tell us about the political situation in America and its impact on
[00:01:00] the war with Iran?
[00:01:01] Hello and
[00:01:08] welcome to the ups and downs of the US elections. This is a podcast from
[00:01:12] BBC Persian. I am Sama Farzaneh.
[00:01:16] Blue wave, blue storm, blue tsunami, and
[00:01:20] amazing are the descriptions used for the elections on Tuesday,
[00:01:23] November 3,
[00:01:26] 2026, or Aban 12, 1405.
[00:01:30] Six Democrats were able
[00:01:33] to take the governorship from their Republican rivals
[00:01:37] across America, and in the
[00:01:40] Senate, Democrats were able to win seven seats
[00:01:44] from the Republicans in the states of Kansas,
[00:01:48] Iowa, Maine, North Carolina, and
[00:01:51] South Carolina, and of course Texas.
[00:01:55] In the House of Representatives races, as of now,
[00:01:59] when we are recording, Democrats have won
[00:02:02] 29 seats from their rivals,
[00:02:06] and it is clear that the control of the House of Representatives
[00:02:09] will also be in the hands of the Democrats. In
[00:02:12] this
[00:02:15] part of the actual, this is the last part of
[00:02:18] the ups and downs of the US elections that we are talking about.
[00:02:22] We are going to take a look at the results that
[00:02:25] have been obtained, but before that, let me ask the program question
[00:02:29] which I will answer at the end of this program. The question is,
[00:02:32] on which book should Abdul
[00:02:35] Saeed, the elected senator from the state of Michigan,
[00:02:38] place his hand during the inauguration ceremony or
[00:02:42] oath? In this program, I am with two
[00:02:46] of my colleagues, Mehrnoush Pourziayi and Bahman
[00:02:49] Kalbassi. Mehrnoush is in the US Congress
[00:02:53] from Washington D.C., and Bahman is in
[00:02:57] New York City. I am in Dearborn,
[00:03:00] in the state of Michigan. Before
[00:03:03] we go to other discussions, I want to ask
[00:03:06] which of these
[00:03:09] races was strange
[00:03:12] for each of you. Something happened that
[00:03:15] you probably didn't expect. Bahman, let me start
[00:03:19] with you. It was last week, Sam, when you asked the same
[00:03:22] question, and at that time I talked about South Carolina.
[00:03:26] Naturally, because before the elections, I was curious
[00:03:30] what would happen, and eventually
[00:03:33] it became one of the major surprises of the night,
[00:03:37] and to the surprise of many observers of the elections
[00:03:41] for many years, it fell
[00:03:43] to the Democrats, and of course, with the reminder that
[00:03:47] the seat of this state was held by Lindsey Graham.
[00:03:50] Senator Graham, whom many Iranians, especially since the war, are more
[00:03:54] familiar with, was a supporter of the war, and after his sudden
[00:03:57] death, Mr. Trump
[00:04:03] asked his sister to take that seat and eventually she became the Republican candidate
[00:04:06] with the support of Mr. Trump.
[00:04:10] But in the general elections, Ms. Graham lost,
[00:04:13] and this loss, because it was in the early
[00:04:17] hours of the night, because this state is in the east of America,
[00:04:20] was a sign that it would be a very difficult night for the Republicans.
[00:04:24] Ms. Graham did not have much experience
[00:04:27] in politics, and she came from outside the world of
[00:04:31] politics in a few months and wanted to do this
[00:04:35] job. Mehrnoush, which race was interesting
[00:04:38] to you? I said last week Alaska.
[00:04:41] Alaska's results are not out yet, but
[00:04:44] Texas was really a shock.
[00:04:48] For decades, Republicans had a fortress
[00:04:51] in Texas that Democrats had tried
[00:04:55] everything to penetrate but couldn't,
[00:04:58] and this time, all that
[00:05:01] prestige of that fortress was shattered, and
[00:05:04] the
[00:05:06] extent to which Democrats were able to
[00:05:09] win in Texas has surprised everyone,
[00:05:13] from the senator who came to power there, to the other
[00:05:16] elective seats they won, and also
[00:05:19] Gina
[00:05:21] Hinojosa became the first Latina female governor of Texas
[00:05:25] and was able to take the seat
[00:05:29] from Republican Governor Greg Abbott. All of these
[00:05:32] are very interesting in Texas because one of the
[00:05:36] reasons is that previously, during President Trump's
[00:05:39] presidential election, a number of Latinos
[00:05:43] in Texas itself voted for him, and the difference
[00:05:46] they actually created in the
[00:05:50] balance of votes caused Mr. Trump to win.
[00:05:54] If not, the only reason that helped him a lot.
[00:05:57] This time, these Latinos did not vote for him.
[00:06:01] You made a very interesting point, Mehrnoush. Mr. Abdul,
[00:06:04] who is currently the governor of Texas, had been elected
[00:06:08] for three terms. This was supposed to be his fourth term, and he was very well known
[00:06:12] as someone who knew how to gather votes
[00:06:15] for Republicans in Texas and keep them
[00:06:19] victorious. For me, who is currently in the state
[00:06:23] of Michigan, naturally, the election of Mr.
[00:06:26] Saeed was noteworthy. It was just a month or two
[00:06:29] ago that one of these far-right
[00:06:32] individuals named Jack Lang. This gentleman had
[00:06:36] organized a program called, I don't know, "Christian Crusaders,"
[00:06:39] something like that, and had invited
[00:06:42] people to come to the city of Dearborn and claimed
[00:06:46] that the city was going to ruin and had turned
[00:06:49] into a place where Muslims wanted to implement
[00:06:53] Sharia law. In short, he had created
[00:06:57] a program against them, and some people had come to
[00:07:00] demonstrate, some people had guns, the police had to intervene,
[00:07:03] and the
[00:07:06] assumption was that this state perhaps was not ready
[00:07:10] to vote for someone with a Muslim name,
[00:07:13] an Arab name, who comes from a Muslim family.
[00:07:17] And this was also something that Mr. Trump had invested a lot in
[00:07:21] here and talked about,
[00:07:24] as did Vice President J.D. Vance. But with
[00:07:28] all this, Mr. Saeed was able
[00:07:32] to win in this state, and this was one of those states that, of course,
[00:07:36] was previously held by another Democrat, and it remained so, but it was one
[00:07:39] of those that the Republicans had hoped for.
[00:07:53] Now it is clear that the House of Representatives will fall to the Democrats, and
[00:07:56] Hakim Jeffries
[00:07:58] will probably become the Speaker of the House. Mr. Jeffries made
[00:08:02] a statement today saying that Democrats
[00:08:05] had campaigned on prices
[00:08:08] and making life easier for people,
[00:08:12] and they won on this platform. They should continue
[00:08:15] to work on this. From the other
[00:08:18] side, there are people within the Democratic Party who
[00:08:22] say that they should go very
[00:08:25] hard on the government
[00:08:28] and see what the government is doing and have more
[00:08:32] oversight. They talk about impeachment, they talk about
[00:08:35] subpoenas. What do you think is the path
[00:08:39] that Mr. Jeffries and the Democratic leadership team
[00:08:42] in the House of Representatives will take to
[00:08:46] ensure that they don't lose the House again in two
[00:08:50] years? Well, the challenge for a party whose
[00:08:53] president is not with them is that even though
[00:08:57] they have a majority in the House of Representatives and the Senate,
[00:09:00] the hope that they can pass something
[00:09:03] that is desirable
[00:09:05] to them is very low, because Mr. Trump or any other president
[00:09:09] from the opposing party can veto it. They can.
[00:09:25] various government agencies and investigations into corruption,
[00:09:29] especially with the so-called widespread corruption accusations
[00:09:32] in Mr. Trump's administration that attracted a portion of the voters.
[00:09:36] For this reason, certainly in
[00:09:40] the steps that the Congress
[00:09:48] many government officials, but this does not mean that
[00:09:51] this is all they will do in the next two
[00:09:55] years. As you said, Mr. Jeffries is
[00:09:58] saying that we entered these elections with the slogan of
[00:10:02] reducing the cost of living for people, and we must act on this slogan. Now, how we can
[00:10:05] act is another question, but they will certainly take at least
[00:10:08] steps that either Republicans will try
[00:10:12] not to vote against, Mr.
[00:10:16] Trump will veto, or even Mr. Trump will be forced to join
[00:10:20] because of the popularity of what they have
[00:10:23] passed. Now, there are various types. For example, if they increase
[00:10:27] the minimum wage, will Republicans vote
[00:10:30] against it? Of course, it's not very important for Republicans in the House, but in the
[00:10:34] Senate, and if they vote positively, then Mr. Trump
[00:10:38] will either come and veto it. There are other cases
[00:10:42] regarding insurance, healthcare, services, and these things that they can pass
[00:10:45] and put Republicans in an unfavorable
[00:10:49] situation where if they vote negatively or veto, it will be
[00:10:53] written down against them that they prevented cost reductions,
[00:10:56] and this can be used against them in the next election.
[00:11:00] For this reason, the leaders of the
[00:11:03] Democratic Party will naturally try to establish
[00:11:07] a balance between spending part of their time on investigation
[00:11:10] and oversight and the other
[00:11:13] part on passing bills that probably won't become law, but
[00:11:17] at least can send the signal to public opinion that
[00:11:20] they are pursuing the promises they made
[00:11:24] to the people. And they are trying to force
[00:11:27] Mr. Trump to sign some of these bills into law,
[00:11:31] and if not, then at the end of two years, they will say, "Well, look, if
[00:11:35] we had the president on our side, then we wouldn't have any problem,
[00:11:39] and we could fulfill these promises." In other words, they can
[00:11:43] also gain some political benefit from it. Another point
[00:11:46] is that Mr. Trump, well, cannot run
[00:11:50] in the next presidential election, but eventually a Republican
[00:11:54] will want to stand against his Democratic
[00:11:57] opponent, and
[00:12:00] this term, even for the House of Representatives,
[00:12:04] if they try to put a spoke in the Democrats'
[00:12:08] wheel, those who are in the US Congress
[00:12:11] may later find this to be
[00:12:15] a negative point and it may also affect
[00:12:19] their votes later, for example, how
[00:12:22] they didn't allow a certain
[00:12:25] law to be passed that was thought to reduce
[00:12:29] costs. This is one of the methods you use when you have
[00:12:32] a majority, by putting a bill on
[00:12:35] the table that voting for or against it
[00:12:38] is costly for the opposing party,
[00:12:41] and naturally, this can be used in the next election.
[00:12:44] Mehrnoush, now we are talking about what
[00:12:47] they can do in Congress.
[00:12:50] Many of those who have now been able
[00:12:54] to enter Congress will start their work
[00:12:58] from January 2027, including Mr.
[00:13:01] Saeed who is here. These people say they are against
[00:13:05] war, they say there should be no war, they
[00:13:08] have general opposition to war with Iran.
[00:13:12] How much can they really prevent
[00:13:15] this war? Mr. Trump, in the previous term when
[00:13:19] the government shut down and Democrats wouldn't let
[00:13:22] the budget bill pass,
[00:13:26] Mr. Trump showed that he could endure and accept criticism.
[00:13:30] Do you think if they try to hold
[00:13:33] the budget hostage, will they succeed?
[00:13:37] It's a bit complicated. In the two months remaining,
[00:13:41] Mr. Trump still has the opportunity to direct the war
[00:13:45] in any direction he wants because the
[00:13:48] new Democratic force has not yet entered Congress.
[00:13:51] Today is Monday, and Congress is quiet.
[00:13:55] No one is there. From Monday, the representatives will return
[00:13:58] and the House will start working, and so will the Senate.
[00:14:01] During this period, will these Democrats
[00:14:05] who are in the Senate for these two
[00:14:08] months be able to form some kind of
[00:14:11] alliance with Republicans who do not see their fate
[00:14:15] tied to Mr. Trump and may not feel obliged
[00:14:18] that their political future is still connected to him,
[00:14:22] at least with a small group of Republicans,
[00:14:26] so that they can somewhat limit Mr.
[00:14:29] Trump's power for new
[00:14:32] war credits? In any case, there is still
[00:14:36] some credit and budget available. Now,
[00:14:39] the Pentagon is looking for new credit,
[00:14:42] that new credit has not yet been approved. One part they
[00:14:46] can do is if they succeed, because even
[00:14:49] after January when the new
[00:14:53] Democrats of the new House take action.
[00:14:55] Even though their victory has been significant, they
[00:14:59] have not reached the maximum two-thirds majority
[00:15:03] to be able to influence Mr. Trump's veto.
[00:15:06] Therefore, Mr. Trump's
[00:15:09] power can ultimately
[00:15:12] be, especially
[00:15:15] with the title of Commander-in-Chief,
[00:15:19] and Republicans with the title that any budget
[00:15:22] cuts mean abandoning
[00:15:26] the US military forces, which in America is considered a very
[00:15:30] bad label for a politician and is always
[00:15:33] used. These are serious issues. On
[00:15:37] the other hand, with these elections,
[00:15:40] everyone who had doubts has realized that
[00:15:44] the American people really don't want another war,
[00:15:48] whether they are Republicans or Democrats.
[00:15:51] And there is this consensus. This is the only chance
[00:15:55] Democrats might have to reach an agreement
[00:15:59] with Republicans to prevent
[00:16:02] the expansion of war in any way. You made an interesting point,
[00:16:06] Mehrnoush. Mr. Vance, the Vice President of
[00:16:09] America, also wrote a relatively
[00:16:12] long post on the X network,
[00:16:15] stating that, in his opinion, the war with Iran caused
[00:16:19] this historical defeat
[00:16:22] for the Republicans in the elections.
[00:16:26] On the other hand, Mr. Trump also reacted
[00:16:29] and almost accepted it. On the other hand, he said
[00:16:32] that he would do it anyway. Bahman, what
[00:16:36] do you think? Do you think this is a disagreement
[00:16:40] between the president and his vice president, or
[00:16:43] are they both trying to achieve a goal through
[00:16:47] different methods? The words we have heard in the last
[00:16:50] 10-15 hours show
[00:16:54] less, if not disagreement, but a difference
[00:16:58] in expression. Mr. Vance explicitly states
[00:17:01] in his writing that the war with Iran itself, this action of going
[00:17:05] to war with Iran, caused many voters who had voted
[00:17:09] for Mr. Trump two years ago to turn away from him.
[00:17:12] But when Mr. Trump was asked, he said, "Yes,
[00:17:16] I generally agree, but not
[00:17:19] the war itself, but its economic consequences, which
[00:17:22] raised gasoline prices and so on, created dissatisfaction."
[00:17:26] Now, these two, whether the war itself
[00:17:29] or its consequences, may not be very different.
[00:17:32] After all, until that war happened, its
[00:17:35] consequences would not
[00:17:37] have appeared. But he went a step further and said
[00:17:41] that if time turned back
[00:17:44] and he was in the same position he is now, he would
[00:17:47] do the same thing again because we should not allow Iran to have nuclear weapons.
[00:17:51] This, therefore, in this respect, differs from Mr. Vance, because Mr. Vance
[00:17:55] says that this action was costly for us and
[00:17:58] was a mistake, and he even goes a step further and says
[00:18:01] that when the American people asked voters what
[00:18:05] they want to see for us to trust
[00:18:08] us again, meaning Republicans,
[00:18:12] their answer was to stop the war, focus on reducing
[00:18:15] costs, and also transform
[00:18:18] America's relationship with Israel, meaning reducing this
[00:18:22] alliance, which was strange that Mr. Vance wrote this so
[00:18:26] explicitly. As a result, the argument is
[00:18:30] that the issue of war is very important to Americans,
[00:18:34] and going to war itself naturally
[00:18:37] made them unhappy, and both Mr. Trump and Mr. Vance not only accept
[00:18:41] this unhappiness and state it as a reality,
[00:18:44] but also accept that this was a mistake,
[00:18:47] and the cost is that they lost the Senate
[00:18:51] in addition to the House of Representatives. Regarding Mr. Vance's statements,
[00:18:54] because Mr. Vance, due to his position
[00:18:57] in opposition to the war from the very beginning,
[00:19:01] now because of the letter he wrote to Mohsen Rezaei,
[00:19:05] he is somewhat under the spotlight in Iran.
[00:19:08] But I want to say that Mr. Vance has changed his name three times,
[00:19:12] changed his political stance twice, from opposing Trump to
[00:19:16] supporting Trump and becoming Vice President,
[00:19:19] and now during all this
[00:19:22] time that 8 months have passed since the war, he has
[00:19:26] stood behind the president. Now that the Republicans
[00:19:29] have lost, Americans themselves say it's a blame game.
[00:19:32] Everyone is looking for who is to blame, and Mr. Vance, because he
[00:19:36] is trying to save his
[00:19:39] political career and political job, and his political future,
[00:19:42] the first thing he has done is to distance
[00:19:46] himself from the
[00:19:49] policy in Mr. Trump's administration that caused
[00:19:52] the Republicans' defeat. So one needs to look
[00:19:56] at this cautiously as to whether this means that Mr.
[00:19:59] Vance is doing this out of
[00:20:02] a desire to oppose war
[00:20:06] or whether he also has an eye on his own political
[00:20:10] future and changed his position for this reason.
[00:20:13] That was a very interesting point, Mehrnoush. Bahman,
[00:20:17] you see how it is in America, as soon as an election
[00:20:21] is over, or rather, the results are announced, everyone asks,
[00:20:24] "What's the next election about? What will happen in the next presidential election?"
[00:20:28] Now I want to ask you a similar
[00:20:31] question. Do you think that in these two
[00:20:34] remaining years of Mr. Trump's term, the Democrats,
[00:20:38] many of whom will probably try to become the party's candidate,
[00:20:42] but among the Republicans, do you think
[00:20:45] what will be the winning card is showing opposition
[00:20:49] to Mr. Trump or cooperating with him?
[00:20:52] Using that political machine he created
[00:20:56] for the Republicans. Well, from Mr. Vance's point of view, one answer is that regarding
[00:21:00] the war with Iran, he at least does not hesitate
[00:21:03] to create some distance between himself and Mr. Trump.
[00:21:06] Mr. Vance's calculation is that the further things go,
[00:21:10] the better it is that the Republican candidate,
[00:21:13] whoever the Republican nominee is, those who
[00:21:16] compete, do not become or are not seen
[00:21:25] and the behaviors they do with the support, with the approval
[00:21:28] of Mr. Trump, having Mr. Trump in mind.
[00:21:31] And this is actually separating
[00:21:35] the path, which we are seeing here in this article. There
[00:21:39] are other people, of course, Mr. Pompeo, the Secretary of State, is one
[00:21:43] of the candidates who is expected to enter the presidential
[00:21:46] election race for the Republican Party's nomination.
[00:22:20] be a transition, they can get the party's nomination.
[00:22:24] Exactly. Thank you very
[00:22:27] much. In America, this period, when a president
[00:22:30] is in his second term, in his last two
[00:22:33] years, they call him a lame duck.
[00:22:37] He can't do much, but we have to see. Mr. Trump usually
[00:22:40] manages to keep himself
[00:22:43] connected to any issue
[00:22:47] and was able to come back after
[00:22:50] four years of Joe Biden's presidency. Let's see if he can keep
[00:22:53] himself relevant for these two
[00:22:57] years and still be
[00:23:00] someone who is a decision-maker,
[00:23:04] whose opinion matters in the Republican
[00:23:07] Party. And I must also say
[00:23:10] that we don't just have ducks. Our
[00:23:13] story is not just about ducks. We also have geese
[00:23:17] in Washington. Both ducks and geese,
[00:23:21] because last night's hero in Washington,
[00:23:24] alongside the lame duck they say is in the White House,
[00:23:27] there is a duck in Washington named Olivia
[00:23:31] who was the leader of a referendum campaign
[00:23:34] to ban the sale and consumption
[00:23:37] of foie gras and duck liver in Washington
[00:23:40] restaurants. People voted overwhelmingly
[00:23:44] that from now on,
[00:23:46] the sale of liver of birds that are
[00:23:50] force-fed to fatten their livers and served in restaurants
[00:23:53] should be banned in Washington. This is
[00:23:57] the summary of Ms. Olivia, a famous duck whose
[00:24:01] election results in Washington D.C. were announced last night.
[00:24:04] Let's go to the question I asked. I asked
[00:24:07] which book Abdul Saeed, the senator-elect
[00:24:10] of Michigan, should place his hand on when
[00:24:14] his inauguration and oath ceremony are held.
[00:24:17] First of all, the answer is that he doesn't have
[00:24:20] to place his hand on a book. He just has to raise his right
[00:24:24] hand. If he wants, he can place his left hand on a
[00:24:27] book, and if he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to.
[00:24:31] The oath is to the US Constitution,
[00:24:34] and the ceremony will be conducted by Vice President J.D. Vance,
[00:24:38] who is also the President of the Senate. The Vice President
[00:24:41] is also the President of the Senate. He must conduct this
[00:24:45] ceremony. Most people who went
[00:24:48] to the Senate in America placed their hands
[00:24:51] on the Bible. Those who were Jewish placed
[00:24:55] their hands on the Torah. And interestingly, there was
[00:24:59] also a senator a few years ago who placed his
[00:25:03] hand on an old copy of the US Constitution.
[00:25:06] A senator who was re-elected this year, Jon
[00:25:09] Ossoff, placed his hand on the Torah, but
[00:25:13] in his pocket, he had some
[00:25:15] immigration documents
[00:25:18] of his grandparents, his father.
[00:25:21] They were Jewish from Europe who had come to America,
[00:25:25] and he had brought these immigration
[00:25:28] documents with them. This is the ups
[00:25:31] and downs of the US elections. It's over. I thank Mehrnoush,
[00:25:35] and also Bahman, and I thank you for
[00:25:39] watching or listening to us during this time.
[00:25:42] Take care of yourselves. Good night and
[00:25:44] good day.
[00:26:01] The security and intelligence breaches of the Islamic Republic
[00:26:04] have made it vulnerable to Israel. Why
[00:26:08] is this level of Israeli intelligence penetration into the Islamic Republic's
[00:26:11] structure so high, and why has Israel so far
[00:26:15] been unable to achieve its desired results using
[00:26:19] this intelligence and security asset?
[00:26:22] Success in intelligence penetration and
[00:26:25] eroding a political system is different from
[00:26:28] your ability to change political power.
[00:26:34] Look at the pictures
[00:26:35] you have.
[00:26:40] They put me in a situation where I was linked to the state, and the children
[00:26:43] went one way, and I went another. And my son, Saeed,
[00:26:46] who was two and a half or three years old,
[00:26:50] came and sat with me. I told him, "Mom, I want to tell you something.
[00:26:53] Keep your name and your sister's name
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[00:30:23] Headlines. Continued reactions
[00:30:25] in Iran to Trump's allies lose in
[00:30:29] congressional elections, from burning the US president's poster to
[00:30:33] advising his deputy to prevent another
[00:30:35] attack. Democratic leaders' plan after
[00:30:39] winning the US midterm elections is to end
[00:30:43] the war with Iran, which is among their
[00:30:45] priorities.
[00:30:47] Iran's Ministry of Youth reacts to the removal of the
[00:30:51] Adam and Eve dating app from Google. It says that the registration
[00:30:55] of 13 and 14-year-old girls was with the consent of
[00:30:58] their families and that this age is legal for marriage in Iran.