BELARUSTV — broadcast 20260811 170000 UTC 565 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] car rally roads of Glory. Our history, which takes place in the places [00:00:03] of military glory of Russia and Belarus, its participants, and [00:00:06] these are mainly young people, will travel thousands of kilometers across the territory of two [00:00:10] countries to collect material about the Great Patriotic War in cities [00:00:14] where stops will be made, in the Grodno region they visited [00:00:18] Lida, in Lida Castle creative teams of the Rostov [00:00:21] region gave a concert in the name of peace. For us [00:00:25] it is a matter of principle, as for Russia and for [00:00:27] Belarus, preservation. [00:01:00] Secondly, not to forget history. [00:01:04] Belarus and Tajikistan strengthen transport links, from [00:01:07] August 29 the national airline of Tajikistan [00:01:10] launches direct regular flights [00:01:12] Dushanbe-Minsk. Flights will be operated once a week on [00:01:16] Saturdays. The new route will simplify citizens' travel and [00:01:19] open new opportunities for business, tourism and [00:01:23] humanitarian contacts between [00:01:24] countries. [00:01:36] The process of redrawing the world order has begun, this process [00:01:40] is not a matter of one day or one year, the task of the [00:01:42] commander-in-chief Alexander Lukashenko is to bring his country into this process [00:01:46] as strong as possible to withstand and bring it [00:01:50] into the new geopolitical structure of the planet, at least not weaker. [00:01:54] And also for a long time the main goal of Belarus and its president was to prevent war [00:01:58] in its country. With this task, Alexander [00:02:01] Grigoryevich copes amazingly. Alexander [00:02:04] Lukashenko, as a leader in economics, is engaged in [00:02:07] creating strategic opportunities, and all the rest of the [00:02:11] power vertical, governments, embassies, [00:02:14] governors and, of course, local authorities must take advantage of them. It is a strong economy, [00:02:18] and not only today, but also tomorrow - this is the best protection against [00:02:21] wars and other cataclysms. There is a well-known phrase that very [00:02:25] accurately characterizes the basic approach of Alexander Grigoryevich to [00:02:28] solving everything. [00:02:46] Digital cooperation, increased exports, launching direct [00:02:48] air communication. Belarus and Saudi Arabia are reaching a fundamentally new [00:02:52] level of economic interaction. The first [00:02:55] fairy tale route connected Belarus and Uzbekistan. The Slavic [00:02:58] Caravan project accelerates the delivery of goods by [00:03:01] rail: tastings competition, Bakers tractor show, [00:03:04] Grodno region invites to the Bread Festival, what is the recipe [00:03:08] for that very father's bun, what is the secret of the popularity of [00:03:11] Karavay-fest? Expert opinion. Edition of [00:03:14] 2,000 copies, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belarus presented an English version of the book [00:03:18] Our President. And for new knowledge to the top [00:03:21] of the planet, a high school student from Vitebsk will go to the North Pole on an atomic [00:03:25] icebreaker. [00:03:35] Hello, while we are anxiously watching the military actions, at our border [00:03:39] around Iran, there is another process, in which threats, [00:03:42] perhaps, are no less, artificial intelligence, what will happen to [00:03:45] us, while it is presented as a convenient assistant, but people listened to [00:03:49] Elon Musk's new interview to The [00:03:52] Economist, the very one who taught the whole world to decipher covers with [00:03:56] predictions, they listened and saw the outlines of very... [00:04:09] the reason of all humanity. Quote: nothing will remain that AI would do [00:04:12] worse than a human, except perhaps the very ability to be [00:04:15] human. Musk believes that the intelligence gap between AI [00:04:19] and humans will become greater than the gap between a human and [00:04:22] an ape. During the conversation, the editor-in-chief of The Economist directly asked [00:04:26] Musk if he still estimates the risk of humanity's destruction [00:04:30] at 10-20%. Musk confirmed this assessment, but [00:04:33] added that the development of technologies can no longer be stopped, [00:04:37] so you just need to, quote: enjoy the ride [00:04:40] try to minimize the likelihood of a bad [00:04:43] outcome. So, we will have today about Ukraine, and [00:04:47] a little about the Middle East, and about the countries, the migration crisis in [00:04:50] Spain, but I would like to start with what kind of peace [00:04:54] people like Elon Musk are preparing for us? You know, [00:04:57] it seems to me what is happening. [00:05:12] the results of peasant labor on the land, in [00:05:16] capitalist, in essence, quantified labor [00:05:20] of a worker, then the service sector, [00:05:23] now conditions are being created when our behavior can be appropriated, [00:05:27] that is, artificial intelligence attentively [00:05:31] analyzes our every click, our purchases, our [00:05:34] preferences, on the basis of algorithms it can [00:05:38] predict our behavior, our [00:05:40] desires, we can still do this... Anglo-Saxon, [00:07:13] it grew out of American modernism, [00:07:17] this is a purely quantitative approach, [00:07:20] in this regard, it, of course, really, I completely agree, [00:07:24] threatens the sovereignty of thinking, that is, it essentially [00:07:27] assumes, because algorithms, what is dangerous about them is that they offer a solution before [00:07:30] a person realizes the problem, respectively, [00:07:34] one's own manner of thinking, one's own way [00:07:37] of thinking, atrophies, and in its place a universal [00:07:40] Anglo-Saxon one is imposed, where... in general, with those ready-made [00:07:43] priorities, yes, it's convenient, why not, but [00:07:46] in essence, man is being transformed [00:07:49] into practically a controlled ant, [00:07:52] because Elon Musk's ideal, remember, there was a movie [00:07:56] Avatar, where, in essence, all knowledge is in the tree, that is, in [00:07:59] the Internet, in order to [00:08:02] understand what to think, you need to connect to it, that is, to this Internet, [00:08:05] and so you can experience emotions indefinitely, that is, [00:08:09] in essence, this is a technology for transforming humanity. [00:08:42] that the same ChatGPT is unprofitable for those who own it, because, as [00:08:46] such specialists say, maintaining [00:08:49] video card servers is more expensive than this $20 subscription that an ordinary [00:08:52] person pays for it, so they say they are willing to pay huge [00:08:56] money to someone who understands how to monetize all this story, but the main story is [00:09:00] that a robot is more expensive than most of the world's population, whose [00:09:03] labor costs literally pennies, that is, this indicates [00:09:07] that they are trying to implement this picture at an accelerated pace, [00:09:10] of course, of course, they are trying to accelerate. sell, among other things, [00:09:14] so that, again, there are no alternatives, because in fact, [00:09:18] what is marketing imposed, you spent resources on one [00:09:22] basket, you have no opportunity to go a different way, [00:09:26] yes, that is, in this regard, this is pushing, well, [00:09:29] properly speaking, PayPal did it that way, why do I say that Elon Musk is one [00:09:32] of the members of the PayPal mafia, they actually earned money exactly like that, [00:09:36] when other alternative payment systems [00:09:39] were pushed out by being developed. [00:09:53] not only some products or services, but also any [00:09:56] idea, any behavior pattern and so on, [00:09:59] absolutely everything, only one thing, the thing is that in essence, artificial intelligence, [00:10:03] this one based on the brown approach, which was created, [00:10:07] is actually very well suited for working with inanimate nature and [00:10:10] absolutely catastrophic when we extrapolate it to the social [00:10:14] world, to the human world, especially to the world [00:10:18] of human values, this is the most, [00:10:21] well, meanwhile, and this is a separate battlefield. [00:10:25] China is creating a global AI alliance in opposition to the US. Xi Jinping announced [00:10:29] the creation of a global organization for cooperation in artificial intelligence with [00:10:33] headquarters in Shanghai. 29 countries, including Belarus, [00:10:36] became co-founders. Western states are not on the [00:10:40] list. Thus, Beijing offers the global South technology and [00:10:43] training. Washington reacts immediately, accusing of stealing [00:10:47] models, threatening sanctions and so on. Andrey, [00:10:50] here is another split we see into at least two poles in [00:10:54] the world. You know, this is still very [00:10:55] unequal, plus because that organization, [00:10:58] which is today under China or with China, it is technologically completely dependent [00:11:01] on China, that is, there are countries that are either under [00:11:05] sanctions, or they have a weak component base, that is, they will not surpass China, and [00:11:09] the Chinese offer them, in essence, to work with Chinese [00:11:11] technologies, well, let's say, to distance them from the West, because [00:11:15] the second bloc is the USA and Britain, there is full adaptation, that is, [00:11:19] Elon Musk, who tells us about Rails, this is that very complete [00:11:23] rejection of the state. [00:12:55] There was an interesting conversation with the President of Belarus when they discussed [00:12:58] the concept of the Academy of Intellectual Technologies, and there was [00:13:02] a question about something, please, here they should train [00:13:05] specialists capable of creating their own [00:13:09] solutions in the most promising [00:13:12] industries, well, as is fashionable now [00:13:15] to talk about artificial intelligence, new [00:13:19] materials, digital industry, [00:13:22] quantum technologies, besides educational... [00:14:55] begin to experience an oil shortage in Southeast Asia, this is the main [00:14:58] manufacturing center, the feeling is that we are artificially being pushed to [00:15:02] the end of the raw material era and the beginning of the digital era as soon as possible, [00:15:06] does it look like that, [00:15:09] well, here I'm not entirely sure, I recently [00:15:11] analyzed the oil refining system, [00:15:15] well, as it is, oil itself, it gradually, well, raw materials [00:15:19] are raw materials, yes, oil refining, its profitability [00:15:23] and margin from this process. [00:15:25] It greatly depends on the dynamics, on [00:15:29] the amplitudes, and let's say, a conflict, and the amplitude of [00:15:32] refining went up once. But there is one [00:15:35] trend, that's what it started with. [00:15:50] for conflicts in Ukraine, in Iran. Uh-huh. You understand how the [00:15:53] bar is rising. And when I started analyzing, I realized [00:15:57] that all these situations are not [00:16:00] accidental, they are interconnected. [00:16:03] The West, especially the US, has learned to squeeze all the juice [00:16:07] from these conflicts, because the margin is growing, this is just [00:16:11] an example of oil refining, but there are other things, [00:16:15] so to say that the digital sphere, [00:16:17] yes, will become also a subject or part of all [00:16:20] these conflicts, it is quite possible, it's just that the conflicts will be different, you see, well, [00:16:24] it's hard to imagine that one will completely replace the other, because energy is still needed [00:16:28] to power all these, you know, I think that [00:16:31] America is now simply trying to be the first to break into [00:16:35] the sixth technological paradigm - this includes robotics, but this requires [00:16:39] resources, the dollar, as the main resource that [00:16:43] allowed America to receive non-equivalent exchange and [00:16:46] huge profits, it no longer works, [00:16:49] accordingly, the Trump administration is now trying [00:16:53] to create, so to speak, a global rent in three [00:16:56] key areas, this is [00:16:58] artificial intelligence, that is, they want to impose their electronic [00:17:02] platforms on almost the maximum number of their allies. [00:17:05] well, with the exception of China and as you correctly [00:17:09] said countries under sanctions, [00:17:12] the second is energy control, that is, [00:17:15] the United States has now lost its advantage in producing [00:17:19] better quality, cheaper goods, they want to take control [00:17:22] of the integral part of any industrial [00:17:26] production, energy, they, we already talked [00:17:30] about this, they have already taken control of Nigeria, [00:17:33] Venezuela, they entered Iran. Ideally, [00:17:36] the ideal scenario was to take control of Iran through [00:17:40] the assassination of the leadership of this country, it [00:17:43] didn't work out, a resounding failure, they [00:17:47] move on to plan B, and if so, then let no one have it, [00:17:51] let's plunge the entire Middle East into a regional conflict, [00:17:54] a blow to China too, and this is precisely a blow [00:17:58] to China, yes, although if they had taken control [00:18:01] of Iran, then they would have put pressure on China through oil prices [00:18:05] and oil supplies. The third is the creation [00:18:09] of these large local conflicts, you are absolutely right, the US has always [00:18:13] profited from this, that is, they sold [00:18:16] security, they sold military-industrial complex, their [00:18:20] weapons, because look, the same [00:18:22] Ukraine, still more than 50% of all supplies [00:18:26] are paid for by the European Union, and produced by the American [00:18:30] military-industrial complex, that is, they begin to trade [00:18:33] weapons, and these are huge profits, at the expense of [00:18:36] these three... [00:20:37] cannot win without destroying the region, so it will drag on [00:20:41] for some time, I think that at least until the midterm elections to [00:20:44] Congress, where then it can turn into some hot phase [00:20:48] or some kind of. starting [00:21:06] with Saudi Arabia, they sold, nominated oil for dollars, two figures [00:21:10] tried to sell oil [00:21:14] not for dollars, it was Saddam Hussein, sold for euros, and [00:21:17] Muammar Gaddafi for gold dinar, we know what happened to him... The States [00:21:29] would have possibly reconciled with control over Iran, [00:21:33] if it had not dealt a very strong blow to [00:21:36] the petrodollar, and a blow to the petrodollar is a blow to [00:21:39] the American economy, it means inflation, it means [00:21:43] economic laws that until now could be ignored, [00:21:46] that could be disregarded list. [00:23:50] and as it were, Ukraine, yes, they are waging two different [00:23:54] wars, Russia is waging a very [00:23:57] specific military operation, which is [00:24:01] designed to achieve goals on the ground. This is an extremely [00:24:04] media-unpopular, unpopular tool, it is very [00:24:08] difficult to present it beautifully in the mass [00:24:11] media, but it ensures [00:24:14] a steady, systematic [00:24:18] victory precisely on the ground. [00:24:21] And Ukraine is waging, understanding that they cannot cope on the ground, [00:24:24] even with the technological support of the European Union and [00:24:28] the USA, they are waging a cognitive, information [00:24:31] war, these strikes on [00:24:34] oil refineries, drone flights, all these [00:24:37] measures, they actually do not greatly affect the military [00:24:41] potential of Russia, but media [00:24:44] propaganda creates the impression [00:24:47] that Ukraine is winning, on what... [00:25:50] he has been pursuing the same line from the very beginning of the conflict, that we are allegedly [00:25:54] the aggressor, which means that we need to be somehow removed from the peace process, I think [00:25:57] this is an order from the Poles, an order from the Baltic states, they act in concert, all [00:26:01] these provocations that were. [00:26:32] some kind of primitive thinking that simply does not fit with this new [00:26:36] era. What are the strikes on Wildberries in this case primarily? It is clear that there is tension [00:26:39] among entrepreneurs, the banking [00:26:42] system, general social discontent. Is there anything else we [00:26:46] should see in this? Well, as I see it, this is also a question of supplying new [00:26:49] territories, because there are few small and medium-sized businesses, there are no [00:26:53] stores, retail chains, like here, pick-up points are a way to [00:26:56] properly receive goods there, if you look at the geography of strikes, how Ukraine [00:27:00] delivers them, this is large logistics, which works precisely from the south of Russia to the new [00:27:04] territories, therefore this is part of the campaign that was on light, on water, which means, [00:27:08] on depriving them of fuel, it is clear that, apparently, they want to continue to terrorize [00:27:11] the new territories, this is important, secondly, why, for example, people [00:27:15] ask, why don't they bomb Ozon, well, they say that Varis, it [00:27:19] openly operates in the new territories under its signboard, that is, they are officially [00:27:22] represented there, all other structures they invent something else there, [00:27:26] another CEO Lerman is [00:27:29] the largest Ukrainian drone manufacturer, he states that [00:28:32] in essence, don't dig another pit, you will fall into it yourself, if you take [00:28:36] strikes, but I don't think Zelensky doesn't understand Russian [00:28:40] psychology so badly, because the Russian reaction [00:28:43] to strikes on civilian infrastructure is [00:28:46] a tightening of demands, but when you [00:28:50] achieve this, why don't the authorities [00:28:53] use more substantial weapons, why did they wait so long [00:28:56] with ports, why did they wait so long with infrastructure, that [00:29:00] is, pressure of such... ruling [00:29:33] elites is in no way connected with Ukraine, that is, it is launched like [00:29:36] a machine that will crash into a wall, which must fulfill its [00:29:40] purpose, at the right moment, in fact, Zelensky and his company [00:29:43] expect to jump off and find themselves in a completely different place with [00:29:47] a different fate, well, there is also another such [00:29:49] unpleasant such symbol of any [00:29:53] new round of peace talks, it's every [00:29:56] time when either the American delegation is going somewhere, or they understand that [00:30:00] someone in Kyiv starts talking about the need to... [00:30:02] talk, there will definitely be some bloody attack or incident, [00:30:06] now there was a strike on the beach in Gelendzhik, where people died, including [00:30:10] children, but this is anything but primarily [00:30:13] it is the disruption of any peaceful potential, of course, [00:30:17] of course, the disruption of anything, and I think that this is primarily [00:30:21] MI6 planning, primarily this is a British [00:30:23] game, this is a British handwriting, when with the help [00:30:27] of terrorist attacks you disrupt these or other agreements, well, and [00:30:31] a marker of that, well... Zaluzhny, who is now, [00:30:35] who gave an interview, but in essence, he gave an interview purely [00:30:38] on the theses written by MI6, it is clear that the interview [00:30:42] is too smart for him, but we in this [00:30:45] case we then understand that on Ukrainian territory, it is not [00:30:48] Ukrainian or Russian and American interests that clash, but the British are not [00:30:52] related to the Americans, the British with [00:30:55] the Americans, this discourse does not disappear, the British [00:30:58] are trying to take control of Europe, this discourse also [00:31:02] does not... does not disappear, the Americans [00:31:04] play their own game, it also does not disappear, in the end [00:31:08] Zelensky, who tries to profit from [00:31:11] everyone, and from all sides, he is also... [00:32:45] here there is clearly a [00:32:48] provocation of Russia for a very long time provoking [00:32:52] tough measures. Then what do we have, Alexander Vladimirovich, we [00:32:55] have no vision of that [00:32:59] horizon where peace will loom, and it is [00:33:02] not there, but nevertheless, all this must still come to [00:33:06] an end. Well, we perfectly understand, and have said a hundred times [00:33:09] even in this studio, that in order to end the war, yes, [00:33:13] what needs to stop? financing it and [00:33:17] providing weapons, that's it, but while this process [00:33:20] is going on, all other talk is ridiculous, that is, [00:33:24] those who finance must see a benefit in something else, in this case in [00:33:28] the absence of war, well, at least stop financing it, if you don't [00:33:31] pay for the service, yes, I say, the country is a mercenary, they [00:33:35] pay for it to, that is, it turns out somewhere up there there is some [00:33:39] division, this is for me, this is for you, they can't [00:33:42] agree yet, and until they agree. Ukraine here is completely [00:33:46] out of it. Well, let's talk about this very [00:33:50] interesting statement that Valeriy [00:33:53] Zaluzhny made. So, Ukraine will never join [00:33:56] NATO, said the former Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and now [00:34:00] Ukraine's Ambassador to Great Britain, Valeriy Zaluzhny, at a general meeting of ambassadors in [00:34:04] Kyiv. Well, the arguments are contradictory to begin with. On the one hand, Zaluzhny [00:34:07] talks about outdated NATO doctrines from World War [00:34:10] II. The alliance will need about 12 years of reforms to [00:34:14] at least. matches the current level of Russia's [00:34:17] defense potential, on the other hand, Zaluzhny stressed that Ukraine desperately [00:34:21] needs Western technologies that NATO countries have. [00:34:24] Well, here's the truly interesting part, the Ukrainian general [00:34:28] said that the alternative is Ukraine joining new military [00:34:31] alliances, for example, it could be about a future European security [00:34:35] bloc or more close participation in [00:34:38] the joint expeditionary forces led by Great Britain. Here, [00:34:42] Kirillovich, you started this topic, please continue. Well, [00:34:45] firstly, yes, if we take the constructions that [00:34:48] are laid, here are laid, the first thing, [00:34:51] Zaluzhny said that Ukraine surpasses, in fact, [00:34:55] greatly surpasses both Europe and NATO. The first [00:34:58] thing, for a Ukrainian to hear, he needs to be praised, told that he [00:35:02] surpasses someone, this is the first, [00:35:06] of course, a myth, from the point of view of practical combat, for a single [00:35:09] soldier, this looks like the truth, from the point of view that [00:35:13] they fight with weapons on... [00:36:27] that this is a different reality, it doesn't work for us, it doesn't [00:36:31] work for us, well, but there is the magic of words, that we called it [00:36:35] differently, so this is already a different reality, it doesn't [00:36:38] work, well, again, in Russia it won't work like that, but the thing [00:36:41] is that, yes, in Britain, it's a classic case, when during [00:36:45] the Cromwellian revolution, the troops [00:36:48] of the rebellious parliament attacked [00:36:51] the king with the cry "for the king", this is again [00:36:54] English, [00:37:27] Denmark is trying to take control of part of Northern Europe, this is [00:37:31] the project that received such a beautiful name Northern [00:37:34] Hansa, and for this they, of course, [00:37:38] will need mercenaries, they perfectly understand that Europeans [00:37:42] cannot and do not want to fight, they will be [00:37:45] ready to offer this expendable function, no longer to [00:37:49] Ukraine as a state, but to the Armed Forces of Ukraine [00:37:53] as a private military company that will [00:37:56] perform. [00:38:57] do you agree with such? The editors showed good footage of the meeting [00:39:00] between Burnham, the new British Prime Minister, and Zelensky, they are even dressed identically, [00:39:04] black jackets, black shirts, well, you swore, man, that 100%, [00:39:08] yes, this is symbolism, and of course, after this meeting, the task [00:39:11] was given to work out this very agenda, we passed it down the vertical, apparently the new [00:39:15] prime minister, as it were, confirms the old task, so [00:39:18] well, of course, it is absolutely correctly noted that [00:39:22] it is not through the mouth of Ukraine that this very Zaluzhny speaks, well, [00:39:25] unfortunately, we see a warship, yes... naval exercises that [00:39:29] were moved from the Black Sea, which were originally planned against Russia, that is, well, [00:39:33] here it was already clear that nothing good should be expected, but a specific [00:39:36] wording is yes, a question of sophistry, because [00:39:39] Intermarium, Trimarium, some kind of this Northern Hansa, whatever, [00:39:43] we have heard all this for the last 10 years, that is, an hostile [00:39:47] bloc is being formed against Belarus, from our side, as it were, from the other side [00:39:50] of our balcony, there will definitely be Poles, I think, the Baltic states as a bridgehead, and also [00:39:54] possibly Northern Europe as such a donor, some kind of, yes... a bridgehead [00:39:58] for cargo there, St. Petersburg and so on, that is, well, this most difficult [00:40:01] geographical situation still remains, which will [00:40:05] permanently put pressure on us, will demand from us [00:40:08] such constant vigilance there, social, political, there, I don't [00:40:12] know, humanitarian, and you know, the president's words were almost verbatim about [00:40:15] the fact that the European Union is turning into a military bloc, this was said not so long ago, but [00:40:19] people should think about it again, it's no longer an economic union, as they [00:40:22] told us, a labor market, capital, no, it's a military bloc, and [00:40:26] they already... express this in the form of military plans, unfortunately, very [00:40:30] briefly, since we started talking about the British, I simply cannot help but notice, looking through [00:40:34] the news, there was generally an interesting line of prime ministers from [00:40:37] Johnson to the current one, so the Prime Minister of Great Britain Andy [00:40:41] Burnham went on vacation two weeks after [00:40:45] taking the head of government's seat, reported The [00:40:48] Times with reference to a representative of the office, well, apparently there are more [00:40:51] important matters, that is, he was appointed 2 weeks ago, excuse me, I have a vacation [00:40:55] scheduled, so nothing. The fact is that, in reality, [00:40:59] it doesn't matter who ends up in the government, including as prime minister in Britain, [00:41:03] this is an absolutely variable thing, [00:41:07] The thing is that, in essence, the minister [00:41:10] has the right to dismiss or appoint only two people, his assistant [00:41:14] and his referent, and he is not even involved in [00:41:17] the budget, this is the top figure, because in reality, everything is decided by [00:41:21] the British Civil Service, this is the civil service, these are career [00:41:25] servants who are appointed, and... [00:41:28] no, they are not elected, and if we take civil servants [00:41:32] of category A, then it's mostly, strangely enough, the English [00:41:35] British aristocracy, that is, [00:41:39] the embodiment - [00:41:48] like a lady, a lady should start dressing like a maid, these English [00:41:51] aristocrats, with the advent of the electoral system, they [00:41:54] dressed up as servants, they put on these very simple [00:41:58] modest suits, and in general, they decide [00:42:01] absolutely everything that will happen, at the top [00:42:05] is the electoral blow, and claims from the electorate, [00:42:09] dissatisfaction. [00:42:40] that Madrid is taking revenge, and what this entails for the entire European Union, we'll talk about very [00:42:43] soon. [00:42:48] Revolutionary crisis in Spain, the enclave of Ceuta in North Africa experienced [00:42:52] an unprecedented influx of migrants, up to 60,000 people simultaneously [00:42:55] tried to break through to European territory by land and by swimming, [00:42:59] it quickly became obvious that the police couldn't cope, they had to call in [00:43:02] the military, and this crisis is called artificial and provoked, [00:43:06] why? Well, Morocco is considered an important ally of the US and Israel in the region. [00:43:18] Usually, Moroccan services strictly restrain migrants, however, [00:43:22] on July 30, the border virtually collapsed, a day later, [00:43:25] Spain and Morocco quickly activated the accelerated [00:43:29] repatriation regime. The speed of returning migrants to Moroccan territory [00:43:32] reached 150 people per minute. On [00:43:36] Saturday, it was already reported that more than... had been sent back. [00:44:40] and we will not respect your interests, [00:44:43] yes, that's why this move was made, from [00:44:46] our, let's say, position it was also clear [00:44:49] that when we said: guys, you are imposing sanctions against us, you [00:44:53] are trying to harm us, you call us enemies [00:44:57] and demand that we guard your [00:44:59] border, well, we just disabled this [00:45:02] function in favor of the European Union, they [00:45:06] cried, now they howled, you see? [00:45:40] how Spain Madrid refused [00:45:43] to help the Pentagon [00:45:45] attack from their strongholds, [00:45:49] in this case, Iranian positions, then of course it [00:45:53] is quite this key is located [00:45:56] somewhere in the vicinity of the White House, which for cutting [00:46:00] Trump out of the Spanish national team's photo, [00:46:04] who was photographed with them during the award ceremony, so it's [00:46:07] clearly visible there. mutual dislike already, [00:46:11] everything is fine here, there I [00:46:14] think not only the United States, but also Israel, especially if you look [00:46:18] at the comments, accordingly, which appeared on official [00:46:21] Israeli accounts, it is clear that this is a staged [00:46:24] thing, but most importantly, it is clear that this is only the first [00:46:28] test case, that is, in this regard, Spain simply [00:46:32] turned out to be a convenient pretext to test how [00:46:35] it will go further, weaknesses have been identified, and further [00:46:39] that... to Europe, in general, migrant masses will be directed and [00:46:43] migrant weapons will be already [00:46:46] more precisely zoned, more precisely [00:46:50] oriented, but this absolutely like... causes doubts, that is, it was a [00:46:54] trial run, it turned out successful for [00:46:57] migrants, unsuccessful and catastrophic for both Spain and [00:47:00] the European Union, and further we need to wait for the second round, [00:47:04] which will be much better prepared, they will tie it, as you [00:47:07] think - to any situation when the States [00:47:11] need to destabilize Europe, that is, in this [00:47:14] regard, as soon as this need arises, [00:47:17] disagreements will arise, disputes will arise, it will always be possible to [00:47:20] show this, Andrey Vach, do you agree? that this is a blow not so much to Spain as to [00:47:24] the entire European Union. Yes, first of all, to the entire [00:47:27] European Union. The United States of America are making [00:47:31] it clear who is in charge. Moreover, I completely agree, [00:47:35] they are testing the limits of the European [00:47:38] Union's resilience, and they see that they are not able [00:47:42] to show a common position to protect [00:47:45] common interests. Look at Italy, it immediately [00:47:49] suspended the Schengen agreement. for generally, in [00:47:53] principle, all institutions of the European Union, because the Schengen agreement [00:47:56] is a key point, as we constantly say, the thing [00:48:00] is that the European Union is in [00:48:03] a permanent crisis, and this crisis is constantly [00:48:06] deepening, Western Europe has abandoned its [00:48:10] spiritual donkeys of Christianity, it has abandoned [00:48:13] Roman law, by and large, switching [00:48:16] to a certain order and [00:48:19] rules, at the last minute... they, [00:48:23] they have no commonality, there are such big differences [00:48:27] between countries that to keep this political [00:48:30] association, I just don't see how, especially since the United [00:48:33] States are now using the European Union as [00:48:36] food, they are sucking out of [00:48:39] the EU, financial resources, [00:48:41] human capital, it turns out that these kinds of [00:48:45] conflicts, problems and a slow decline [00:48:49] in living standards are beneficial to the United States. [00:48:58] migrants, yes, look how terrible it is, like a zombie apocalypse, [00:49:01] yes, they showed pictures from zombie movies, [00:49:04] Andrey, what do you see in this, well, if you look at the map of Europe, then [00:49:08] Trump has almost no allies in power there, their task is to ensure that [00:49:12] right-wing populist parties, which are oriented [00:49:15] towards Americans, gradually gain ratings, and you don't even have to conquer all of Spain, [00:49:19] these terrible pictures that are circulating today throughout the West are enough. in Europe [00:49:23] as such a horror story, that look, migrants will soon conquer us all, [00:49:27] in general, this is a message from American media, because Elon Musk also [00:49:30] posted this, major publications that are connected with Republicans and [00:49:34] Democrats, that is, they worked on Europe as they should, that is, [00:49:37] further, in order to raise the ratings of right-wing populists, they will constantly [00:49:40] throw in targeted accounts, well, such new stories, while [00:49:44] of course, we will say that the Spaniards themselves really set themselves up, because they [00:49:48] made a very unfortunate decision in April to amnesty [00:49:51] half a million. [00:50:52] And I, honestly, when I was listening to Andrey, I was simultaneously [00:50:56] thinking how I should formulate the final question, because [00:50:59] no matter how you look at it, it reeks of conspiracy, and [00:51:03] we are serious people, [00:51:07] so the last thing I'd want to do is look like a conspiracy theorist, [00:51:10] although we already discussed UFOs after [00:51:13] Trump promised to release all the data, but I still [00:51:17] can't help but share such feelings that [00:51:21] there are certain imposed things... both for Western countries and for the global [00:51:25] South, because it's hard to believe that there is some objective [00:51:28] historical process that again and again pushes us into [00:51:31] wars, again and again, which now pushes us into the cold [00:51:34] embrace of robots, although the whole world says: no, we are not ready, look, this is [00:51:38] not objective, that there is some objective historical process [00:51:42] that even in the 21st century does not allow us to deal with hunger, [00:51:46] and we see in different regions of the world, well, such a paradoxical [00:51:49] picture, bare-assed, but with a smartphone. these [00:51:52] logical and illogical imbalances make one think [00:51:56] that someone possesses some colossal power [00:52:00] resource, be it energy, financial, that forces [00:52:03] even such powerful... [00:55:05] everyone has the common starting right to be equal, [00:55:09] or are there civilized peoples and [00:55:12] barbarians, is there hierarchy and coercion, [00:55:15] these two concepts are at war with each other, and today we [00:55:19] see them entering another clinch, someone [00:55:23] is trying to maintain their hierarchy, someone [00:55:26] is trying to maintain a privileged position at the expense [00:55:29] of masses of other people, that's what I think, [00:55:33] that the movement... [00:56:05] So, to elect a director while being an employee, well, they'll quickly correct [00:56:08] you and fire that person. That is, Western politicians [00:56:12] in this regard are just hired workers of that very large [00:56:15] capital, and we can't even comprehend the scale of influence [00:56:18] of individual corporations, because, well, we remembered the East India Company, right, that was [00:56:22] 200 years ago, did it just disappear on its own, yes, it has [00:56:25] enormous capital and influence, or did it turn into something incomprehensible to us, [00:56:29] some funds, capital, where families hold their own [00:56:32] property, which they pass down for many, many centuries. [00:57:47] In general, it gives the impression that it's about devaluing [00:57:51] this dollar, right, and BlackRock could for pennies, [00:57:54] such as BlackRock could for pennies buy out everything that [00:57:58] was left in this America, and further, further [00:58:01] everyone lives on rent, the whole world, [00:58:05] Americans there, Europeans, that is, everything [00:58:08] lives on rent, renting from the same BlockRock, [00:58:12] housing, there resources, energy there everything, that is, [00:58:16] it turns out. [00:58:47] plays on exchanges, buys some stocks, there [00:58:51] the margin fluctuates, that is, you understand, how [00:58:54] today the redistribution of the world, it turns out, is happening at the expense of [00:58:57] pensioners, well, thank [01:00:57] Good evening, this is Panorama live, in the studio Ekaterina.