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[00:00:00] "I want to tie my future life to the nuclear industry and perhaps
[00:00:03] even work at a nuclear power plant. Therefore, I believe this
[00:00:07] will be an excellent experience. The
[00:00:09] expedition will last 10 days, the participant will visit the
[00:00:13] Arctic and reach the geographic North Pole. Each educational
[00:00:17] program awaits them on board of the icebreaker: lectures,
[00:00:20] workshops, and scientific
[00:00:22] experiments.
[00:00:26] Servicemen from the Special Operations Forces Unit of Belarus are
[00:00:30] participating in the joint special tactical training summit "Brotherhood
[00:00:33] 2026" in Kazakhstan. They are practicing training and joint
[00:00:36] reconnaissance, as well as searching for and destroying illegal armed groups in
[00:00:40] mountainous desert terrain at the Kokshetau training ground. The training
[00:00:44] ground is familiar to Belarusian servicemen. In 2022, the
[00:00:48] "Orlok 2022" exercise was held there, where the same tasks
[00:00:52] were practiced with artillery and army aviation
[00:00:54] support.
[00:00:57] Belarusian vehicles were present at the largest car festival for
[00:01:01] Virginia in Moscow. This large-scale event brought together
[00:01:05] leading representatives of the automotive industry at the
[00:01:08] Exhibition of National Economy Achievements and became a
[00:01:12] platform for showcasing modern equipment. As part of the
[00:01:15] festival, the domestic universal loader Amkador
[00:01:19] 332C4 was presented. This model has
[00:01:22] already proven itself in operation thanks to its
[00:01:26] reliability, high performance, and versatility. Another part
[00:01:29] of the pavilion's exhibition was the photo
[00:01:32] project "Automotive
[00:01:34] Belarus".
[00:01:43] A gem of Belarusian naive art, Malyavanka, from the collection
[00:01:46] of the Vitebsk Region Folk Art Center, is on display for the
[00:01:50] first time at the Tsaritsyno Museum Reserve in Moscow. Today,
[00:01:54] this unique technique is a part of Belarus's historical heritage. The
[00:01:57] prime of Malyavanka in Belarus was in the early
[00:02:08] This work is one of the oldest in the collection. It's not exactly
[00:02:11] known when, but it was probably painted in the late
[00:02:14] 1930s, and it captures dreams of a happy life.
[00:02:18] The castle here looks as if it was made of sugar, round
[00:02:22] turrets, and a cover of flowers spreads out before it,
[00:02:25] pond, swans, fragrant nature - everything is
[00:02:28] beautiful in this life. Today, Malyavanka is more than just
[00:02:32] decoration, it represents the soul of the Belarusian people,
[00:02:36] through symbols, myths, and vivid images. They help us maintain
[00:02:39] connection to our roots, our national identity. This is our
[00:02:43] heritage, which must be
[00:02:44] preserved.
[00:02:47] The State Academic Choir Chapel named after Shirma returned from
[00:02:51] the Tyrolian Festival. It took place in Erl, Austria. The
[00:02:55] country's largest musical event brings together star performers
[00:02:59] from all over the world. The Choir Chapel, named after Shirma, is a
[00:03:02] regular participant of the festival and its official base
[00:03:06] square in Erl. Performers from other countries
[00:03:08] joined the Belarusians, and together they formed the Tyroland
[00:03:12] Choir. This year, they combined ensemble gave a solo concert
[00:03:16] in the Catholic Church. World masterpieces, as well as Russian
[00:03:19] and Belarusian music, sounded under the walls of the
[00:03:23] church.
[00:07:06] the first region, first in everything, how many smart
[00:07:09] gadgets do you need to say that a city has become smart? I
[00:07:12] live in my district, this is my home, here is my shop, some sort of
[00:07:16] resort vibe, I already imagine myself, honestly, this
[00:07:20] is not Kobrin, this is not Pinsk, this is Mikashevichi, it's expensive, in
[00:07:24] our district they don't ring, but they do ring, paraphrasing the classics, a
[00:07:28] culture of construction appears, something very architectural sounded,
[00:07:31] the budget is not endless, so what was it? Just a lot
[00:07:34] of material
[00:07:35] accumulated.
[00:07:55] Hello, Palette is on air, a program about people whose ideas are born before
[00:07:59] our eyes to become part of the creative economy. Today in
[00:08:02] our studio is Nikolai Vlasyuk, an expert in urban planning,
[00:08:06] who knows how to turn a city into a brand. Nikolay Nikolaevich,
[00:08:10] we are glad to see you. Good day. Nikolay
[00:08:13] Vlasyuk, chief architect of the Brest region, professor
[00:08:16] of Brest State Technical University. The first in Belarus to
[00:08:20] develop a turnkey urban spatial development concept. According to his
[00:08:24] ideas, by 2050 Brest will be transformed into a garden city at the junction
[00:08:27] of nature and technology. His experience is applied in other countries. An adherent
[00:08:31] of the theory in practice that space forms a person.
[00:08:35] Believes that every populated area of Belarus needs
[00:08:38] its own unique identity.
[00:08:42] It's no coincidence that the color scheme of our studio today is green, because we will
[00:08:46] talk a lot about how to harmoniously connect
[00:08:49] nature, technology. I really hope that you, as
[00:08:52] an expert in urban planning and
[00:08:55] an expert in the smart approach as well, will reveal this
[00:08:59] topic, but I suggest we start with such an important block, which is
[00:09:02] called "the path". You, as an architect, will understand, it's the
[00:09:05] foundation. Mhm. Let's move on to this
[00:09:08] block right now.
[00:09:11] Nikolay Nikolaevich, today your knowledge, your experience, your ideas
[00:09:14] are being implemented not only in Belarus, but in Russia and Kazakhstan.
[00:09:18] A unique destiny from the point of view that, in general, even the paths
[00:09:21] in architecture could have been different for you, I mean even
[00:09:24] geographically. You became the youngest architect of the city
[00:09:28] of Minsk at one time, yes, you had the opportunity, in general, to stay in
[00:09:31] Minsk, but you chose Brest, and that is, you returned
[00:09:35] to your native Brest, we remember that you are a Brest native in the third
[00:09:38] generation already. So, what was it, because everyone always...
[00:10:13] but after working in the city, I realized
[00:10:17] that in a small city or in a regional
[00:10:20] center, in my native city, to implement my
[00:10:24] ideas on... approaches it would not be easier,
[00:10:27] because a link is very important, the mayor of the city and the chief
[00:10:31] architect, and therefore, when
[00:10:34] a proposal came from the mayor of Brest to come to
[00:10:38] Brest in a single team to work
[00:10:41] on the fact that the city is preparing for its millennium, in general, there was
[00:10:44] such a carte blanche to try to implement
[00:10:48] those ideas that exist,
[00:10:51] using Brest as an example, I took advantage of this opportunity and...
[00:10:55] returned to my hometown. If you even look at the
[00:10:58] approaches today, well, in the same Europe, not all
[00:11:02] Germans strive to move to Berlin to live, yes, there are
[00:11:05] many cities, like Dresden, like Leipzig, and so on
[00:11:09] and so forth, which have their own peculiarities, their own
[00:11:13] unique feature, be it in Dresden, the Dresden
[00:11:16] Gallery, or Oktoberfest. And what is
[00:11:20] our problem today? It's that Minsk, like a magnet, pulls all
[00:11:24] the resources from... the republic. Small
[00:11:27] towns, villages become empty, the number of
[00:11:30] residents decreases, regional centers collect them, and from regional centers everyone goes to
[00:11:34] the capital. But you have a solution.
[00:11:37] There was a topic that Minsk is not endless, this is
[00:11:41] true, even the head of state said that it's enough to inflate
[00:11:45] Minsk, so the topic of the Minsk agglomeration
[00:11:48] of satellite cities appeared, so today we are actively talking about
[00:11:51] the need to develop identity and branding.
[00:12:55] 500 cities already operate using the
[00:12:58] Smart Approach system, and moreover, it formed the basis of
[00:13:01] China's state program. Well, at our level,
[00:13:05] something could probably be done too. We also, of course, have
[00:13:08] the topic of smart cities, a state program for the development
[00:13:12] of smart cities. A lot has been done at different
[00:13:15] levels, but I sometimes joke, saying, "Which city is smarter?"
[00:13:19] Let's compare, for example, Kobrin or Pinsk,
[00:13:22] then Minsk or Grodno. How do we
[00:13:25] compare, compare which city is smarter, where there are more smart technologies,
[00:13:28] smart services, how many smart gadgets are needed, right,
[00:13:32] to say that a city has become smart, or are there other criteria? And
[00:13:36] that's exactly the idea of a smart city is not to
[00:13:39] cram the city with these gadgets. These gadgets will already
[00:13:43] be watching you, but to have feedback from
[00:13:47] the city residents. Smart technologies are not
[00:13:49] equal to a smart city. Feedback is rather, I think, a more
[00:13:53] important component here, because it seems to me that in any
[00:13:57] city, the most important capital is human capital. That is, all cities
[00:14:00] are fighting for people. In Brest, before we started working on
[00:14:04] the city's master plan, before the city's millennium,
[00:14:07] we decided to take a slightly different path. Before
[00:14:10] the start of the design, we hung two maps in
[00:14:14] the city's info center: in green, the places that need
[00:14:18] to be preserved, and in red, the places that need
[00:14:21] to be corrected. And this, in general, was a marker
[00:14:24] for the city, for the city administration, to
[00:14:28] see what priorities needed to be set,
[00:14:31] to build urban planning policy. Local residents started saying
[00:14:34] that they want more bike paths, we want it to be a
[00:14:37] green city, we want to have more parks, we want
[00:14:41] a concert hall, we want... that is, this
[00:14:44] demand from residents, this entire strategy formed the
[00:14:48] basis of the city's master plan, and the city's master plan solidified it with its
[00:14:51] regulations, which already have legal status,
[00:14:55] and it was approved by the head of state and is mandatory
[00:14:58] for execution.
[00:15:02] Our next block, the author, begins in the most correct way, because the author
[00:15:06] is sitting opposite me, actually Nikolay Nikolaevich Vlastyuk, the author of this
[00:15:09] scientific work, and I'm not afraid of the word, quite weighty, and
[00:15:13] this is the strategy of Brest, a garden city. Why
[00:15:16] exactly Brest? Why did it have indications to become
[00:15:20] a garden city? This is probably the only, or a very
[00:15:24] rare city in Belarus, which was moved to
[00:15:27] a new location. During the construction of the fortress, the thousand-year-old city in
[00:15:31] the mid-19th century was moved 1.5 km
[00:15:34] to the east and was formed by the military.
[00:15:52] an ideal city, which in England was developed
[00:15:56] at the end of the 19th century, that is, 50 years later
[00:15:59] than Brest, the same center, park, today it is a fortress
[00:16:03] and radial block development with a
[00:16:06] comfortable scale.
[00:17:07] we worked for 5 years on these schemes for separated
[00:17:11] territories for all district centers. If I'm not mistaken, there's even
[00:17:14] a global standard, it's clear that not all countries can
[00:17:17] afford it, but I think Belarus is among them, when, you know, a person
[00:17:21] has 10 minutes to the park. There's the concept of a
[00:17:24] fifteen-minute walking city or a
[00:17:27] ten-minute one, and we are also striving for this.
[00:17:31] We basically have all the prerequisites. The Soviet
[00:17:34] school, despite the criticism, but
[00:17:38] the system of services itself was built
[00:17:41] quite competently, and the radii of accessibility were, well, correctly
[00:17:45] selected for walking distance: schools, kindergartens,
[00:17:48] clinics, shops. Today, we just
[00:17:51] need to, well, just give gloss, comfort,
[00:17:54] quality to this environment that we inherited. Well,
[00:17:58] everything new that is built should be formed in a new
[00:18:01] quality. How did you feel that Brest could
[00:18:04] be made into a brand? Well, you know, there are always
[00:18:07] prerequisites. Returning to Brest, you
[00:18:10] feel a comfortable environment,
[00:18:13] large-scale development of the historical center, there is
[00:18:16] a river, a lot of greenery, boulevards.
[00:18:20] You come to Sochi or Odessa, right, there's some kind of
[00:18:23] resort vibe, and we
[00:18:26] analyzed this concept of a southern capital, that
[00:18:30] Brest is in the same climatic zone as Prague, as
[00:18:33] that is, almost Southern Europe.
[00:18:37] And if you look at the vegetation, ours is very,
[00:18:41] well, the vegetation is quite sparse, we have very little
[00:18:44] vertical landscaping, the same ivy, wisteria,
[00:18:48] then, Virginia creeper, a lot
[00:18:51] of plants that could be a symbol of the city. For example, the chestnut for
[00:18:55] Brest, there's a medal, so, a thousand years of Brest,
[00:18:58] the symbol, the logo, so, it's a chestnut leaf. Uh-huh.
[00:19:02] For example, the embankment could be decorated, and we have already started
[00:19:06] decorating it with Crimean pines, these are
[00:19:09] pines with long needles, or, for example,
[00:19:12] we planted a magnolia alley, where else in Belarus is there
[00:19:16] a magnolia alley or a plane tree alley? Plane trees are generally,
[00:19:20] it seems, somewhere in Italy, but they grow here, with
[00:19:23] their shaggy cones, so, with bare
[00:19:26] bark, a whole alley. In the city, there are
[00:19:30] forty-year-old trees, so you can form
[00:19:34] this brand with these exotic
[00:19:38] plants. the brand, following the city,
[00:19:42] the economy naturally catches up. A city cannot exist without an economy,
[00:19:45] architects also learn this, but
[00:19:48] if we discuss, you as the author of both the concept and the strategy, and generally
[00:19:52] a person who in one way or another deals with business
[00:19:56] and investors, for example, you as an architect, you must think
[00:20:00] like a businessman, to understand what will be
[00:20:03] profitable, what will not be so much, and so on, when you design
[00:20:06] at this stage? I would not emphasize
[00:20:09] my own personality, it's still a team
[00:20:12] effort. The more we know about the city, the more we can
[00:20:16] predict and predict correctly. And if we
[00:20:18] see some promising investment sites that
[00:20:22] will be interesting for a developer, of course, the more correctly we
[00:20:26] formulate the design brief or the urban planning
[00:20:30] passport, the more accurately we will hit
[00:20:34] the topic of the auction or the topic of the developer, for example.
[00:20:37] the formation of the new silhouette of the city along
[00:20:41] the Warsaw highway, when we had the entrance
[00:20:44] from the bridge, Shevchenko Boulevard, formed in the Soviet period,
[00:20:48] these gates, two buildings on both sides, which
[00:20:51] greet, so, the residents, we made, as
[00:20:54] it were, a curtsy, we did it from the other side, from
[00:20:58] the southern part, also such gates in the form
[00:21:01] of a business center, in the form
[00:21:04] of a modern hotel. Gradually, such a development is being
[00:21:07] built, which, well, says that
[00:21:11] the city today has a modern appearance, in fact, this
[00:21:14] new modern avenue, in addition to the embankment, we realized that there are already very
[00:21:18] serious shifts in this. A city garden appeared. Also, by the way, a very
[00:21:22] remarkable place, it seems to me, for the citizens and guests of Brest. And
[00:21:25] what else is already in the process of implementation? You know, in every
[00:21:29] direction there have been some shifts. If we talk about the
[00:21:32] historical center, then, uh,
[00:21:36] between the fortress and the city there was an esplanade area,
[00:21:39] this is an area that was not built up. In the
[00:21:42] Soviet period, it formed an industrial
[00:21:44] zone. There was a river port,
[00:21:48] there was a power plant, there was transshipment, there were some
[00:21:51] warehouse areas, and so, today there is an active transformation
[00:21:55] of this territory into a public space. The topic of renovation is also
[00:21:59] actively sounded here. In our former industrial
[00:22:02] territory, today a promenade is appearing, a
[00:22:06] museum of steam locomotives is appearing, public buildings are currently being designed. We
[00:22:10] want to connect the city center
[00:22:13] and the park area with the fortress within walking distance,
[00:22:16] so that it is a kind of unified network.
[00:22:50] and the same Paris, maybe it's possible to design skyscrapers in La Défense,
[00:22:53] in the historic center it's not possible,
[00:22:56] at the same time, Le Corbusier proposed
[00:23:00] the redevelopment of Paris back in the 1920s, essentially
[00:23:03] to make the center of Paris a large microdistrict. All
[00:23:07] these principles, by the way, laid down by Le Corbusier,
[00:23:10] the principles of modernism, which were later adopted by
[00:23:14] the Soviet school, these residential
[00:23:17] areas, "house-machine for living," "city-machine
[00:23:20] for living," they were actively then
[00:23:23] introduced in cities, in Soviet
[00:23:27] cities. But I think
[00:23:30] the time has come when we should still turn to
[00:23:33] people.
[00:23:37] I would really like to focus on the fact that you really have such
[00:23:40] a human-centered approach, in general, a lot of vitality in the projects that
[00:23:44] you develop. It's clear that this
[00:23:47] slogan, "everything for people," yes. It can be rethought
[00:23:50] a little differently. If we talk about microdistricts,
[00:23:54] even those sleeping areas, people
[00:23:58] would like to say that in our district they don't ring, but
[00:24:01] they do ring, paraphrasing the classics and so on, but nevertheless there is a demand
[00:24:05] for such a well-thought-out ecosystem, that I live in my
[00:24:08] district, here is my house, here is my shop, here I have
[00:24:12] a playground, parking, and other things. Maybe we can analyze
[00:24:15] specific examples, but if
[00:24:18] we talk initially, the Soviet period - this is
[00:24:21] modernism, this is rigid functional zoning,
[00:24:25] home, work, home, two places,
[00:24:28] so, a third appears, now we are talking about, yes,
[00:24:32] about the approach, a humane approach, when a
[00:24:35] third place appears, a public space, when there is home, work, and there is
[00:24:39] a third place where we can relax, or meet,
[00:24:43] or after work, so, play sports. Therefore, today's
[00:24:46] trends are not rigid functional zoning, but it is...
[00:25:20] that is, bring me to a house where there is a sharp
[00:25:23] fortress drawn, or for example butterflies are drawn, or some
[00:25:27] mural, right, and or we, for example, have
[00:25:30] a shop on the swamp, next to this shop we made a house with
[00:25:33] reeds, that is, this theme of the swamp went on, or for example,
[00:25:39] the partnership called itself "Reeds", they
[00:25:42] called themselves the partnership of owners. There is an interesting example of
[00:25:46] renovation of a Soviet residential area where we...
[00:25:50] developed a water channel system, created
[00:25:53] a reservoir, moved it back due to the private sector and
[00:25:56] created such a recreation area in the old residential
[00:26:00] area, built a new quarter with...
[00:26:32] advantages, but there's simply not enough variability,
[00:26:36] of puzzles that can be assembled in various
[00:26:39] interpretations to create this environment, different in height,
[00:26:43] different in architecture, to create this environment like building with blocks, in addition
[00:26:47] to identity and navigation. The topic of a barrier-free environment, yes, is very
[00:26:50] important. By the way, we are still revolving around the topic of
[00:26:54] Soviet heritage, it turns out that all these
[00:26:57] elevated entrances, when you know, they are on a hill, and you still need to go up
[00:27:01] steps.
[00:27:05] and they couldn't deal with this issue for a long time, and well, they started with what? They started
[00:27:09] building ramps. We had complaints, so, from residents,
[00:27:12] that children gather on the first-floor ramp watching
[00:27:16] TV, so, in the kitchen, on the first
[00:27:18] floor.
[00:27:21] Resourceful people, yes, it was just necessary to rework the sections, to make, so,
[00:27:25] an additional opportunity for the elevator to go down another
[00:27:28] half-floor to zero with, so, the
[00:27:31] entrance. We solved the problem of this inviting half-floor
[00:27:35] staircase, which completely, today the elevator completely solves
[00:27:39] the problem of barrier-free access in multi-apartment
[00:27:42] buildings. Uh-huh, you indirectly touched upon the topic, let's still
[00:27:45] go through it, because now we will talk about bike paths, it is also an already proven
[00:27:49] fact of efficiency and economy, among other things, when you build fewer
[00:27:53] parking lots, it turns out that there are fewer cars. You also, in general,
[00:27:57] plan to put everyone on bicycles, as I understand it, yes, there is
[00:28:00] such an idea. You know, but...
[00:28:03] here too, one cannot take exact
[00:28:06] copies or carbon copies from examples, I don't know, European
[00:28:10] or Asian. My approach is that we need to
[00:28:14] create more bypasses, transport routes around
[00:28:17] the city, transport corridors, where you can quickly get from
[00:28:21] one area to another with noise barriers, high-speed
[00:28:24] highways. And the city center, of course, should prioritize
[00:28:28] pedestrians, cyclists, but the idea is to get
[00:28:31] from one area to another. It's good to have
[00:28:35] a green area, a green corridor, a boulevard, a
[00:28:38] bike path, along the embankment, ideally, without crossing
[00:28:41] transport communications. You left your, so, yard and
[00:28:44] arrived at work through the park. Well, that's a great story, actually, and with picturesque
[00:28:48] views. And I believe it is very important here, perhaps, to
[00:28:52] correct some programs that we have today in the Ministry
[00:28:55] of Architecture and Construction, when we measure our
[00:28:59] growth only by quantitative indicators.
[00:30:06] and an assessment can be made for city authorities not only in terms
[00:30:10] of the implementation of these square meters, but how much better your city
[00:30:14] has become. After all, if a city gets bigger, it doesn't
[00:30:17] mean it gets
[00:30:18] better.
[00:30:21] We are smoothly transitioning to the block called "Ideas",
[00:30:25] and here, of course, I cannot help but start this
[00:30:29] block with your quote, that cities are, in general, like
[00:30:33] people, right, they are all different, and each should have its own unique charm, and
[00:30:36] we are finally approaching your very responsible mission, which now
[00:30:40] occupies all your not only working, but also free time,
[00:30:44] including, this is the development of small cities. So let's
[00:30:46] discuss, using the example of Mikashevichi, let's approach it in an unconventional
[00:30:50] way. What is Mikashevichi's unique charm? The year before last,
[00:30:54] we held the harvest festival in the city,
[00:30:57] and what is special about
[00:31:00] Mikashevichi? It's a mono-city. The city has a specialized
[00:31:04] enterprise, it's granite, which is
[00:31:06] mined here - in a city next to the city, there is a large
[00:31:10] quarry, imagine, a pit the size of a city,
[00:31:13] where there is a waterfall.
[00:31:45] on the end walls of the buildings, this industrial industry of this
[00:31:48] city, it well, it
[00:31:52] designates it as a unique city, and this is not
[00:31:56] Kobrin, this is not Pinsk, this is Mikashevichi, they
[00:31:59] are recognizable, no matter where you take a picture,
[00:32:02] so,
[00:32:04] the residents and the administration also didn't understand at first, they were tired of these
[00:32:08] stones, but when we did it, the theme
[00:32:11] was liked, we made a park, we made these end walls.
[00:32:15] We landscaped the street, we even made an observation deck at the quarry itself, a new modern
[00:32:18] deck in the form of a pavilion,
[00:32:22] we even wanted to make one over the quarry, so
[00:32:25] with a panoramic view, but we moved back a little for
[00:32:28] safety reasons, but nevertheless, we
[00:32:31] designated our identity in the city, and
[00:32:34] today we are talking about branding the region in the first region,
[00:32:38] we have such a creative team, the
[00:32:42] governor's assistant is really promoting this theme. And
[00:32:45] the Bison Museum, this #first region, it
[00:32:49] is officially registered, the first region, first in everything,
[00:32:52] and such an idea, like a matryoshka doll, to build this
[00:32:55] hierarchy of branding from the regional
[00:32:58] center to cities of intra-regional subordination,
[00:33:01] district centers and towns, so that
[00:33:04] every city would think about what makes it special, so, if we
[00:33:08] are talking about Pinsk - it is a historical
[00:33:11] building, a unique environment, a pedestrian street and Pinsk in general.
[00:33:15] The capital of Polesie, so, Pinchuki with their own
[00:33:17] mentality, with their own character, yes, and if we talk today
[00:33:21] about Pripyat, about Polesie, yes, then it is also
[00:33:24] an absolutely undeveloped theme, if
[00:33:28] if we know about Belovezhskaya Pushcha and many know, they come,
[00:33:32] there is a fortress, Belovezhskaya Pushcha, then
[00:33:35] Polesie is that potential that has not yet
[00:33:38] been fully revealed, somewhere they heard about Herodotus's sea, so
[00:33:42] a lot of festivals are appearing now, right now...
[00:33:45] A bridge is being built between Luninets and Stolin, and today
[00:33:49] we are also discussing how the territory where there used to be
[00:33:53] a ferry, a ferry crossing over Pripyat, how that can be a point
[00:33:56] of attraction, where the administration of the reserve, where there can
[00:34:00] be eco-trails, where there can be agro-estates, such a, well,
[00:34:03] also a unique place, which will be interesting for tourists,
[00:34:07] well, and you really went further, this is not, we are not just discussing
[00:34:10] it here with you, and for our TV viewers, I explain, you have really just given
[00:34:13] an order to develop.
[00:34:45] approve, that is, a single concept for the city,
[00:34:48] the central part of the city, how advertising will be placed, what
[00:34:52] will be on the signs, what will be on, well, on the shop windows,
[00:34:55] maybe some small architectural forms, and the small architectural
[00:34:59] forms of Pinsk will differ from the small architectural
[00:35:02] forms of Kobrin or Kamenets, yes, in
[00:35:05] general, that's how it should be, they should differ, we should move away from
[00:35:09] this, from this theme of the irony of fate or with light
[00:35:13] steam. This is
[00:35:22] pain, when our cities with excellent,
[00:35:26] with interesting historical heritage, and residential areas, sleeping
[00:35:29] areas, do not differ from each other, there
[00:35:32] Gantsevichi, from I don't know, from Zhodino or from
[00:35:36] there, yes, and we don't understand where we
[00:35:39] are, so to revive the particularity of the
[00:35:42] small town, its identity. That's the
[00:35:46] point, and what else is interesting about this is that
[00:35:50] it should attract people, that is,
[00:35:53] creative economy, and your broadcast, it also
[00:35:56] talks about this, that today I observe even in Brest, when Russians
[00:36:00] come, they say: it's great, we
[00:36:03] are ready to live here, rent housing, it's inexpensive here,
[00:36:06] it's comfortable here, the internet allows you to work, there are good
[00:36:10] people here, all conditions are here, and we, well, these are human
[00:36:14] resources.
[00:36:27] development and a driver of economic development,
[00:36:30] undervalued,
[00:36:34] Well, what, in your opinion, hinders making it fully developed?
[00:36:38] We talked about Pinsk, also an interesting story, right? I believe that
[00:36:41] at the level of, perhaps, state
[00:36:44] policy, more attention should be paid to urban planning,
[00:36:47] urbanism. And I will even
[00:36:50] give an example of the urban forum that took place in Baku, where
[00:36:54] 188 countries participated. The guests who
[00:37:05] were there spoke about modern trends,
[00:37:19] about what a sustainable city is, what green
[00:37:22] urban planning is,
[00:37:25] well, and how to integrate this into...
[00:38:27] settings, fine mechanisms,
[00:38:30] and for example, today during public discussion, we still
[00:38:33] have a misunderstanding, when residents come, they are shown
[00:38:37] a general plan or a detailed plan, they don't understand what is
[00:38:40] drawn there, there are some zones colored in, they ask what is
[00:38:43] this, will my house be preserved or will it be dismantled, they
[00:38:47] are told, your house will be dismantled, but not now, maybe later, a street will
[00:38:51] pass there someday in red lines, all this is unclear
[00:38:54] to people, therefore today... there is
[00:38:58] such a specialty as urbanism, urbanology, and
[00:39:01] there is this specialty at the State University, I believe
[00:39:05] that this is just the beginning of the journey, when urbanologists appear, this is
[00:39:09] exactly the group of people who can be this
[00:39:12] link between residents and city authorities, or
[00:39:16] the deputy corps can also take on this function,
[00:39:20] to translate, well, combine residents' requests
[00:39:23] and, well, translate them to the city authorities and from the city authorities
[00:39:27] - explain to residents what is planned here, why
[00:39:30] the city needs to be densified, that it is not for harm,
[00:39:34] but that the task
[00:39:36] of the city mayor is to make the city efficient, well, yes, that this action has
[00:39:40] a certain meaning, in this regard, to be honest, I would even act without
[00:39:44] intermediaries, I would say that this is exactly, you know, as they say, there is such
[00:39:47] a meme, this is needed by your mom, your dad, you, in general, urbanism
[00:39:51] is needed by everyone, like with a doctor, you don't
[00:39:53] sometimes discuss whether to have an operation with a doctor or not,
[00:39:57] he... you need to cut, because he, he is a specialist in
[00:40:00] this, we can express our opinion, but yes,
[00:40:04] there are specialists who need
[00:40:06] to be trusted,
[00:40:09] and in general, what does an architect risk? His name, reputation,
[00:40:13] of course, is at stake, is it important to you that somewhere under
[00:40:16] the project it says Nikolai Vlasyuk, just so you don't, you know, fall flat on your face,
[00:40:20] of course, in your hometown, this reputational
[00:40:24] component is very important, and there are different approaches in the world, uh-huh.
[00:40:27] The Soviet approach was that the chief architect of the city,
[00:40:31] he could cross out a project that was brought to him and
[00:40:34] say, here you need to draw a different facade, I don't
[00:40:38] like it, his subjective opinion could
[00:40:41] prevail, let's see how it was, for example, there, I don't know, in the same
[00:40:44] Europe, imagine that Sir Norman Foster
[00:40:48] comes to the chief architect of London, with
[00:40:51] his, well, cucumber-shaped building
[00:40:55] or with some exclusive ones.
[00:41:27] responsibility the one who designs, then I am for that.