BELARUSTV — broadcast 20260813 095500 UTC 439 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:01:01] the first region, the first in everything, how many smart [00:01:04] gadgets are needed, right, to say that the city has become smart, I [00:01:08] live in my neighborhood, this is my house, there's my store, some kind of [00:01:12] resort-like message, I already imagine myself, [00:01:15] honestly, this is not Kobrin, this is not Pinsk, this is Mikashevichi, [00:01:19] this is expensive, in our area they don't call, but they call, paraphrasing [00:01:22] the classics, a culture of construction appears, something very [00:01:25] architectural was said, the budget is not unlimited, [00:01:28] what was that? A lot of material has accumulated. [00:01:51] Hello, you're watching Palitra, a program about people whose ideas are born before [00:01:54] our eyes, to become part of the creative economy. Today in [00:01:58] our studio is Nikolai Vlasyuk, an expert in urban planning, [00:02:01] who knows how to turn a city into a brand, Nikolai Nikolaevich. [00:02:05] Glad to see you. Good day. Nikolai [00:02:08] Vlasyuk, chief architect of Brest region, professor of [00:02:12] Brest State Technical University. He was the first in Belarus [00:02:15] to develop a turnkey concept for spatial urban development. According to his [00:02:19] ideas, by 2050 Brest will be transformed into a GARDEN city at the intersection [00:02:23] of nature and technology. His experience is applied in other countries. An adherent [00:02:27] of the theory in practice that space shapes [00:02:30] people, he believes that every settlement in Belarus needs [00:02:33] its own unique identity. [00:02:37] Nikolai Nikolaevich, it's no accident that the color scheme of our studio today is green, because [00:02:41] we will talk a lot with you about how to harmoniously connect [00:02:44] nature, technology, I really hope that you, as [00:02:48] an expert in urban planning [00:02:50] and an expert in the smart approach as well, will reveal this [00:02:54] topic, but I suggest we start with such an important block called [00:02:58] "The Path", you as... An architect will understand, this is [00:03:01] the foundation, mhm, so let's go straight to this [00:03:03] block. [00:03:07] Nikolai Nikolaevich, today your knowledge, your experience, your ideas [00:03:10] are implemented not only in Belarus, but in Russia, in Kazakhstan. [00:03:13] A unique fate from the point of view that even your paths [00:03:17] in architecture could have been different, I mean even [00:03:20] geographical ones. You became the youngest architect of the city of [00:03:23] Minsk at one time, yes, you had the opportunity to remain [00:03:27] in Minsk, but you chose Brest and... that is, [00:03:30] you returned to your native Brest, we remember that you are a third-generation [00:03:33] Brest resident already, so what was [00:03:36] it, because everyone always strives for Minsk one way or another, yes, everyone [00:03:39] thinks that Minsk is the peak of a career, but [00:03:43] you did otherwise, that is also the uniqueness of your choice, you know, [00:03:47] probably, well, how it happened, a good theoretical [00:03:49] base was formed, that is, working at the Institute of Urban Planning [00:03:53] allowed me to have an understanding of modern [00:03:57] trends in urban planning, in urbanism. [00:04:00] And I assumed that working in Minsk would allow [00:04:04] to quickly implement some approaches, modern [00:04:07] trends, but after working in [00:04:10] the city, I realized that in [00:04:14] a small city or in a regional center, in my hometown, [00:04:17] to implement my ideas and approaches would [00:04:21] not be easier, you see, the link between the mayor of the city [00:04:25] and the chief architect is very important, [00:04:28] so when... I received an offer from the mayor of [00:04:32] Brest to come to Brest to work as a single team [00:04:35] on the fact that the city was preparing for its millennium, [00:04:39] I was given a carte blanche to try to implement [00:04:43] those ideas that exist, [00:04:47] using Brest as an example, I took advantage of this opportunity and [00:04:50] returned to my hometown, if you even look today [00:04:53] at approaches, well, in the same Europe, not all Germans [00:04:57] strive to move to Berlin to live, right, there are [00:05:01] many cities, there's Dresden, there's [00:05:04] Leipzig and so on and so forth, which [00:05:07] have their own peculiarities, their own features, for example, in [00:05:10] Dresden... [00:06:42] keep up with the times, well, if we talk about specific examples, [00:06:46] China is developing very actively in this regard, they [00:06:50] already have over 500 cities operating under the [00:06:53] Smart Approach system, and moreover, it formed the basis of [00:06:57] China's state program, here at our level [00:07:00] we could certainly do something, we also, of course, [00:07:03] have the topic of smart cities, a state program for the development of [00:07:07] smart cities, a lot has been done at different [00:07:10] levels, but I sometimes joke. [00:08:12] those places that need to be preserved, in red color, those places that [00:08:16] need to be corrected, and this was generally such a marker for [00:08:20] the city hall, for the city administration, to [00:08:23] see in what priority to place [00:08:26] urban planning policy to build. Local residents started saying [00:08:29] that we want more bike paths, we want it to be [00:08:33] a green city, we want to have more parks, that [00:08:36] we have a concert hall, we want, that is, this, this [00:08:40] demand of residents, all this... strategy formed the basis of the city's master [00:08:44] plan, and the city's master plan secured with its regulations [00:08:47] already, which have legal status and was [00:08:51] approved by the head of state and is mandatory [00:08:54] for execution. [00:08:57] Our next block, the author, begins in the most correct way, because the author [00:09:01] is sitting opposite me, Nikolay Nikolaevich Vlasyuk, the author of this [00:09:05] scientific work, I'm not afraid of the word, quite weighty, and this is [00:09:09] the Brest strategy, the city garden. Why exactly... [00:09:12] Brest, why, what were the indications for it to become a Garden [00:09:16] City? It is probably the only, or a very rare [00:09:20] city in Belarus that was moved to a new [00:09:23] location during the construction of the fortress, a thousand-year-old city in the middle of [00:09:27] the 19th century was moved 1.5 km to the east, [00:09:30] and a block development was formed by military [00:09:34] engineers, where city boulevards alternate with [00:09:37] streets, and they did this when it wasn't yet mainstream, [00:09:41] as they say, but it worked out so that this grid [00:09:44] of streets very much resembled the concept of a garden [00:09:48] city, an ideal city that was developed in [00:09:51] England at the end of the 19th century, that is, 50 years later [00:09:54] than Brest, the same central park, today it is a fortress, [00:09:58] and radial block development with a comfortable [00:10:01] scale radiates outwards, so this somehow inspired [00:10:05] the theme of the garden city, this is, of course, no longer the same [00:10:08] garden city in the understanding of the Middle Ages or the 19th [00:10:12] century, this is a garden city in the modern understanding at [00:10:15] a new stage, well, it turns out that, in general, the Mukhavets River [00:10:19] becomes the main superstar of this [00:10:21] project, [00:10:55] regulates the presence and percentage of green [00:10:58] zones in the city. Today, for the Brest region, we have developed, [00:11:02] we have developed over 5 years for all [00:11:05] district centers these schemes of separate territories, if I'm not [00:11:09] mistaken, there is even such a world standard, it is clear that not all countries [00:11:13] can afford it, but I think that Belarus is among them, when you know, [00:11:16] a person has 10 minutes to the park, there is a [00:11:19] concept of a fifteen-minute pedestrian city or a [00:11:23] ten-minute one, and we... [00:11:25] are also striving for this, we generally have all the [00:11:28] prerequisites, the Soviet school, despite the fact that [00:11:31] there is criticism, but the system of [00:11:34] services itself was built quite competently, and the radii [00:11:38] of accessibility were, well, correctly selected in the zone of pedestrian [00:11:42] accessibility, schools, kindergartens, polyclinics, [00:11:45] shops, today we only need to, well, just give [00:11:48] polish and comfort, quality to this environment, [00:11:52] which we inherited, well, everything new that is built. [00:11:55] to form in a new quality, how did you [00:11:58] feel that Brest could be made a brand? Well, [00:12:01] you know, there are still prerequisites, returning to Brest, you [00:12:05] feel a comfortable environment, [00:12:08] large-scale development of the historical center, there is [00:12:12] a river, a lot of greenery, boulevards, [00:12:15] you come to Sochi or Odessa, yes, some kind of [00:12:19] resort-like message, and we [00:12:22] analyzed this concept of the Southern capital, that [00:12:26] Brest is located in the same climatic zone as Prague, [00:12:29] that, well, practically Southern Europe, [00:12:33] and if you look at the vegetation, we have very, [00:12:36] well, quite sparse vegetation, we have very little [00:12:40] vertical landscaping, the same ivy, glycines, [00:12:43] there, you know, virgin grapes, a lot of [00:12:46] plants that could be a symbol of the city, like the chestnut for [00:12:50] Brest, there is a medal, you know, a thousand years of Brest [00:12:54] symbol, a logo, you know, it's a chestnut leaf, [00:12:57] uh-huh, for example, the embankment could have been decorated, and we have already [00:13:01] started decorating it with Crimean pines, these are pines with [00:13:04] large needles, or, for example, we planted an alley [00:13:08] of magnolias, where in Belarus else is there an alley of magnolias or an alley [00:13:11] of plane trees, plane trees are generally somewhere, it seems like Italy, [00:13:15] but we have them growing here, with these shaggy cones, [00:13:19] you know, with bare bark, a whole [00:13:22] alley, in the city there is a forty-year-old... [00:13:55] think like a businessman, to understand what will be [00:13:58] profitable and what will not be so much, and so on, when you design [00:14:01] at this stage? I would not emphasize [00:14:04] my own personality, it's still a team [00:14:08] effort, the more we know about the city, the more we can [00:14:11] predict and predict correctly, and if we [00:14:14] see some promising investment sites that [00:14:18] will be interesting for the developer, of course, the more correctly we [00:14:22] formulate the terms of reference for the design or. [00:15:25] some progress has been made, if we talk about the historical [00:15:28] center, then, you know, [00:15:32] between the fortress and the city there was an esplanade territory, this is a territory [00:15:35] that was not built up and... in the Soviet period, this [00:15:38] formed an industrial zone, [00:15:42] there was a river port, there was a thermal power plant, there was [00:15:45] transshipment, there were some warehouse areas, and, you know, [00:15:49] today there is an active transformation of this territory into a public space, [00:15:53] the theme of renovation is also actively present here, in our former industrial [00:15:56] territory today there is [00:16:00] an embankment, there is a museum of locomotives, public [00:16:03] buildings are currently being designed, we want to link today. [00:16:07] the city center and the park area with the fortress within walking [00:16:11] distance, so that it would be a single network. [00:16:15] Further, if we talk about the historical center, regulations [00:16:18] on height were defined, we realized what was important [00:16:22] to preserve, which blocks were the most [00:16:25] authentic and what was valuable there, which [00:16:28] blocks had already lost their authenticity, [00:16:32] but it was important to preserve the environment, well, this is a global practice, by the way, because we [00:16:35] remember the same [00:18:07] children's playground, parking, and some other things, maybe we'll analyze them [00:18:11] with you using specific examples. Well, if [00:18:14] we talk initially, the Soviet period - this is [00:18:17] modernism, this is rigid functional zoning, [00:18:20] home, work, home, uh, two places, [00:18:23] so, the third appears, now we're talking [00:18:27] about, yes, about the approach, a humane approach, [00:18:30] when a third place appears, a public space, when there is home, [00:18:34] work and there is a third place where we can relax. or [00:18:37] meet or after work, so, do [00:18:40] sports, so today's trends are not rigid functional [00:18:44] zoning, but a mixture of all territories, all zones, and not to make [00:18:47] this mono-function of this sleeping bag, this [00:18:51] sleeping micro-district that also creates [00:18:54] pendulum migration, so the idea of [00:18:58] identity was proposed, each residential area must have its own face, each new [00:19:01] block must have its own toponymy or some kind of [00:19:05] place memory, right? Even such [00:19:08] a, well, perhaps a somewhat naive approach, but even without knowing [00:19:11] the address, hypothetically I get into a taxi and can tell, so, the taxi driver, [00:19:15] to take me to the house where the Brest [00:19:19] fortress is painted or, for example, butterflies are painted or some [00:19:22] mural, right, and or we, for example, have [00:19:26] a shop on the swamp, near this shop we made a house with reeds, that [00:19:30] is, the theme, so, on the swamp went or [00:19:32] for example [00:19:35] and the partnership called itself so, right. They called themselves this [00:19:39] partnership of owners. There are examples of interesting renovation [00:19:42] of a Soviet residential area, where we developed [00:19:46] a water system, a water channel, made a reservoir, [00:19:49] moved back there at the expense of the private sector and made such a [00:19:53] recreation area, in the old residential area, built a new [00:19:56] block with public space, we tried [00:20:00] to play with the number of floors, to lower the number of floors, so that it would be [00:20:03] a building of variable height, and here, you know, [00:20:06] Brestzhilstroy. our house-building plant met us [00:20:09] halfway and developed specialized [00:20:12] series of corner sections, so that it would be possible to form block [00:20:16] development and such city houses, single-entrance [00:20:19] buildings, towers also, so that there was variability, [00:20:23] uh-huh, but industrial housing construction has [00:20:27] many advantages, but it lacks simply [00:20:30] the variability of puzzles that can be [00:20:33] assembled into various interpretations to create this [00:20:36] environment. Different in height, different in architecture, like building [00:20:40] this environment from blocks, besides identity and navigation, [00:20:44] the topic of a barrier-free environment, yes, is very important, by the way, we also, one way or [00:20:48] another, still revolve around those... [00:21:20] this means an additional opportunity, so that the elevator also [00:21:23] drops half a floor lower to zero with [00:21:26] the entrance, we solved the problem of this [00:21:29] inviting half-floor landing, which completely [00:21:32] now the elevator completely solves the problems of [00:21:36] barrier-free access in multi-apartment buildings, you indirectly [00:21:39] touched on the topic, let's still go over it, because now we will talk about [00:21:43] bike paths, which is also a proven fact of efficiency and economy, [00:21:47] including when you build fewer parking lots. [00:22:20] city, of course, priority should be given to pedestrians, cyclists, but [00:22:23] the idea is to get from one area to [00:22:27] another, preferably along a green area, along a green [00:22:30] corridor, along a boulevard, along a bike path along [00:22:33] the embankment, ideally even without crossing transport [00:22:36] communications, you left your yard and [00:22:40] rode to work through the park, well, that's a great story, actually, and with [00:22:44] a picturesque view, and I think it's very important here, perhaps, to [00:22:47] adjust some programs that we have today. in the Ministry of [00:22:51] Architecture, Construction, when we measure our [00:22:54] growth only by quantitative indicators, when [00:22:57] the city [00:22:59] needs to build so many thousands of square meters next year, and [00:23:03] the city needs next year, we allocate funds for the construction of so many [00:23:07] kilometers of roads, but we don't talk about quality, [00:23:10] will these square meters be comfortable, will these [00:23:14] roads solve the problems of city connectivity, so [00:23:17] today there are not enough quality criteria in... [00:24:20] is called ideas and here, of course, I cannot but remember [00:24:23] starting this block with your quote that cities, like [00:24:27] people, are all different and each should have its own [00:24:31] highlight, and we are finally approaching your very [00:24:34] responsible mission that you are currently engaged in, probably all your not only [00:24:38] working but also free time, this is the development of small cities, [00:24:41] let's discuss with you using Mikashevichi as an example, let's [00:24:45] take an unconventional approach, what is the highlight of Mikashevichi, the year [00:24:48] before last we held... a harvest festival in the city [00:24:51] and [00:24:54] what makes Mikashevichi special is that it's a mono-city, [00:24:58] the city has a specialized enterprise, it's [00:25:00] granite, which extracts, right near [00:25:04] the city, there's a large quarry the size, [00:25:07] imagine, a pit the size of a city, where there are waterfalls, [00:25:10] you know, separate excursions, tourists come, this is such [00:25:14] industrial tourism to see, we will meet them here, we are waiting for them with [00:25:17] an architectural solution, when the task was. for example, for the harvest festival, to make [00:25:21] a city concept, streets, what did we take [00:25:24] as a basis? We took these stones, granite, of which they have [00:25:28] a lot, they, of course, are all tired of this granite, but [00:25:31] when tourists come, they are interested in seeing, and we made [00:25:35] small architectural forms, we made gabions, benches, even there [00:25:38] construction equipment on, you know, the ends of buildings, this [00:25:42] industrial industry of this city, it [00:25:45] well, somehow designates it, that [00:25:49] it's a unique city, and this is not Kobrin, this is [00:25:52] not Pinsk, this is Mikashevichi, they are recognizable, wherever you [00:25:56] take a photo, you know, everyone will understand that it's Mikashevichi, [00:26:00] the residents and administration also didn't understand at first. They were tired of these [00:26:03] stones, but when we did it, the theme [00:26:06] was liked, we made a park, we made these facade ends, [00:26:10] we landscaped the street, on the actual quarry we made another observation [00:26:14] deck, a new modern platform in the form of a pavilion, [00:26:17] we even wanted to make a panorama over the quarry, [00:26:20] you know, well, we moved back a bit for [00:26:23] safety reasons, but nevertheless, we [00:26:27] defined our identity in the city, and [00:26:30] today we are saying that, you know, occupying... [00:27:32] which has not yet been fully revealed, somewhere we [00:27:35] heard, Herodotus' sea, you know, a lot of festivals [00:27:39] are appearing now, now a bridge is being built [00:27:42] between Luninets and Stolin, and today we are also [00:27:45] discussing how the territory where there used to be a ferry, [00:27:48] a ferry crossing across the Pripyat, could be a point [00:27:52] of attraction, where the administration of the reserve could be, [00:27:55] where there could be eco-trails, where there could be agro-estates, such a, well, [00:27:58] also a unique place that would be interesting for tourists. Well, [00:28:02] and you really went further, this is not, we are not just discussing with you here, but [00:28:06] for our viewers, I explain, you really have now given instructions [00:28:09] to develop a design code for each, yes, of these, we [00:28:13] waited a long time for cities to [00:28:16] themselves, you know, take the initiative, intercept it, yes, [00:28:19] intercept it, but we realized that city administrations were used [00:28:23] to being told what to do and we unobtrusively [00:28:26] pointed it out, so, with the signature of the deputy governor, [00:28:30] you know, we sent a letter that... everyone [00:28:32] should develop their own design code, submit it to [00:28:36] the urban planning council, consider it and approve it by [00:28:39] the beginning of next year, that is, a single [00:28:42] city concept, the central part of the city, how [00:28:46] advertising will be placed, what will be on the signs, what [00:28:49] will be on, you know, on the display windows, maybe some small architectural [00:28:53] forms, and small architectural forms of Pinsk will differ from [00:28:56] small architectural forms of Kobrin or [00:29:00] Kamenets, yes, well, that's how it should be. [00:29:43] that's the point, and why else is this interesting? It's interesting because it should [00:29:46] attract people, that is, this creative economy, and your [00:29:50] broadcast, it also talks about this, that today I [00:29:54] observe even in Brest, when Russians come, they [00:29:56] say: cool, we are ready to live here, [00:30:00] rent housing, it's inexpensive here, it's comfortable to work here, the internet [00:30:04] allows it, there are good people here, there are all conditions, and [00:30:07] we, well, these are human resources, we can develop [00:30:10] industry, 100% important, [00:30:13] an important element, and we can develop a creative [00:30:16] economy and invite people this way, this is also [00:30:20] a quality environment - it's a driver of urban development and a driver [00:30:24] of economic development, [00:30:26] underestimated, [00:30:30] well, what, in your opinion, hinders making it fully functional for now? [00:30:33] We talked about Pinsk, also an interesting story, yes, I believe that [00:30:36] at the level of, perhaps, state [00:30:39] policy, more attention should be paid to urban planning and [00:30:42] urbanism, I will even [00:30:46] give an example of the urban forum that took place in Baku, where [00:30:50] 188 countries participated, including Belarus, [00:30:53] by the way, [00:30:56] there was a report, Belarus is in the trend of all directions, [00:31:00] we have something to be proud of, it is accessible. [00:34:15] not to fall flat on your face? Of course, in your hometown, this [00:34:17] reputational component is very important, and [00:34:21] there are different approaches in the world, the Soviet approach was that [00:34:25] the chief architect of the city could cross out [00:34:28] a project brought to him and say: you need to [00:34:31] draw a different facade here, I don't like it, his subjective [00:34:35] opinion could prevail, let's see how it was, [00:34:38] for example, there, I don't know, in the same Europe, imagine that [00:34:42] Sir Norman Foster comes to the chief architect of London [00:34:45] with his, you know, uh, building in [00:34:49] the shape of a cucumber or with some exclusive [00:34:52] interesting architecture, and the chief architect tells him: you know what, I don't [00:34:56] like the window spacing you have drawn here or different [00:34:59] materials, this is a completely different story, here the [00:35:02] architect himself is responsible, the one who designs the volume, [00:35:06] the volume architect, he is responsible with his reputation, [00:35:09] with his name, for what he designs, in principle, for Belarus this [00:35:13] is a possible option, and today we are on... [00:36:28] but again, one should not rest on one's laurels and further [00:36:32] improve, probably qualitatively improve, [00:36:36] perhaps introduce new urban planning documentation, we [00:36:39] officially only have general plans and [00:36:42] detailed plans in urban planning documentation, in Russia and Europe [00:36:45] today there is such a concept as [00:36:48] a master plan or again, a spatial development strategy, [00:36:52] which is more mobile, [00:36:55] it responds faster to the challenges of time. Everyone understands what [00:36:58] is being talked about, what vector of development this city, this settlement, [00:37:02] has, it is not hidden behind these regulations, [00:37:05] incomprehensible general plans, but it is understandable and publicly available, it is in [00:37:09] open access, therefore, most likely, [00:37:12] we need to take all the best, identify [00:37:16] the potential of our small cities, our regional centers, in order [00:37:20] for each of our cities to have its own unique features, to be [00:37:23] comfortable and attractive, so I have a question: imagine that, [00:37:27] it's clear that there's always something to work on every day, but [00:37:30] 2050 comes, when we understand that this [00:37:34] strategy, right, or rather, the concept developed by you, has [00:37:37] been implemented, God willing, so it will be, you are walking, for [00:37:41] example, along Sovetskaya Street, Brest, [00:37:44] what do you feel at that moment, and this is the vision, in [00:37:48] the strategy there is a vision, it is quite detailed, [00:37:52] what I feel when I walk around the city [00:37:55] in 30 years, I walk... through [00:37:58] a comfortable city, where the city is pedestrian-friendly, where there are many [00:38:02] terraces, where there is fresh air, where there is the smell [00:38:05] of phytoncides, you know, from coniferous trees that [00:38:08] grow in this city, people play sports, [00:38:12] fewer clinics, more people [00:38:15] run, ride bicycles, [00:38:18] there is an opportunity here, if we talk about [00:38:22] a creative city, it's a city, that gives people [00:38:25] the opportunity to develop and... be [00:38:27] needed, there are some separate topics here, growth points, [00:38:31] economy, green framework, residential areas, you can [00:38:35] go into details, but in general these [00:38:38] are cities that help residents [00:38:41] realize their potential, they have this vital potential, absolutely right, [00:38:45] these are cities where you want to live, and you know, on July [00:38:48] 28th Brest had another birthday, we also congratulate you on that, [00:38:52] that you have a direct connection, as a third-generation Brest resident, [00:38:55] a representative of a very famous. [00:39:28] square meters is a living organism, where a smart approach transforms technology [00:39:31] into comfort, and the concept of a garden city protects our [00:39:34] ecology. But the main thing is balance, which is impossible [00:39:38] without people. It is the creative energy of residents that transforms modern [00:39:41] spaces into centers of creative economy, which drives [00:39:44] our cities forward. Design your future with [00:39:48] intelligence and see you on [00:39:49] air. [00:40:07] Belarus - it is a very tolerant country [00:40:10] and has a very high degree of energy, [00:40:14] as Gumilyov said. Belarus for me is [00:40:17] happiness, silence, [00:40:19] cleanliness. Just the other day I went out to [00:40:22] the station, looked at two [00:40:26] buildings. Inside I thought, how much I love Belarus? [00:40:29] Belarus for me is honor, it is conscience, it is [00:40:33] beautiful traditions, the future of my children, Belarus for me [00:40:36] is pride, which I am ready to carry [00:40:39] throughout the world until my last breath, let them [00:40:42] envy us, let them take an example from us, we have [00:40:45] a generous soul, a sincere heart, and most importantly [00:40:49] rich, kind, beautiful [00:40:51] people.