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[00:00:00] The girls' recording
[00:00:30] will continue until September
[00:00:33] 13th. The metropolitan Art House gallery is starting
[00:00:36] a new exhibition season. The first exposition of the creative start is a collection
[00:00:40] of works by the renowned Belarusian master Vladimir Gladkov
[00:00:44] between Heaven and Earth. In the art space, there are new
[00:00:48] and already familiar works of his - 42 works in two
[00:00:51] sections, paintings from travels to different countries and Belarusian
[00:00:54] themes. Gladkov embodies Polotsk, Minsk, Polesie
[00:00:58] motives, landscapes.
[00:01:30] trade and the market are also on the boats, everything is brought, barrels, pickles
[00:01:34] are sold, well, and I got infected, so I wrote
[00:01:37] fishermen, supplemented that cycle of works on Belarus,
[00:01:40] which is related to modernity, this season
[00:01:44] we are opening with an exhibition by Vladimir Glatkov,
[00:01:48] the title is between heaven and earth, between heaven and earth - what is it? it's our life,
[00:01:52] our life, our history, everything that
[00:01:54] is directly related to humanity, I think this exhibition should not
[00:01:58] go unnoticed. Vladimir Gladkov, representative
[00:02:02] of the old academic art school, his works are in
[00:02:05] state museums of Belarus, private collections around
[00:02:09] the world, the exhibition at the Minsk Art House gallery can
[00:02:13] be seen until September 30th. More news
[00:02:16] on our website news.by, stay tuned to the first informational.
[00:03:10] we cherish, it's a matter of presentation, yes,
[00:05:42] wherever you want, go there, and I thought, what can I do, history turned out best
[00:05:46] for me, and what is it like
[00:05:48] to accidentally unearth a church, we just
[00:05:52] surveyed, by chance I, with local
[00:05:55] guys from Lyatlovskaya gymnasium, discovered a previously unknown
[00:05:58] ground burial site from the era of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, it's interesting,
[00:06:02] was it your personal choice to dig precisely in a quiet courtyard among
[00:06:05] five-story buildings, it's good that we are not on the avenue, because there should be silence in
[00:06:08] the library, in every district local people are sure that gold is buried with them.
[00:06:12] it's buried, that's 100%. Do you have a video announcing this
[00:06:16] road? Of course, it's on the surface, it's
[00:06:19] to present our history through
[00:06:22] books, through archives, including archives of prominent figures of science and
[00:06:26] culture. I have long wanted to see the snake-headed
[00:06:28] bracelet. For example, I read a lot, I read a lot.
[00:06:31] But I will always choose a book over reading from
[00:06:35] a tablet.
[00:06:53] Hello, you are watching the program "Say, don't be silent." In the studio, Victoria Popova and
[00:06:57] Tatyana Shchurbina. And today our guest is the director of the central
[00:07:01] scientific library named after Yakub Kolas, National
[00:07:04] Academy of Sciences of Belarus, Stanislav Yuretsky. Good afternoon, Stanislav
[00:07:08] Stepanovich. We did not accidentally invite you to visit
[00:07:12] very soon. On September 15th, the country
[00:07:15] will celebrate Library Day, we will definitely talk about it, but
[00:07:19] first about the main milestones of your biography: you
[00:07:22] are a candidate of historical sciences, suddenly your career leads you to
[00:07:26] a library, albeit a large one, albeit a scientific one, albeit
[00:07:29] perhaps the second in the country, yes, in terms of content,
[00:07:33] but still, how does an archaeologist and historian become
[00:07:37] a library director? Well, that's
[00:07:39] an interesting question, I can immediately say that I never thought
[00:07:43] I would work in a library, especially in the library of the Academy of Sciences, because when I
[00:07:46] wrote my doctoral dissertation, I always
[00:07:50] worked in the national library, that is, I went there since my student days,
[00:07:53] there, well, it was somehow more convenient, familiar to me,
[00:07:57] imagine, you are a scientist, you didn't go to a scientific library,
[00:08:00] you went to a central one, well, I did, but not that often, because from
[00:08:04] student days, students were usually more oriented towards the national one
[00:08:07] at BSU, the academic one is more for already established
[00:08:11] scientists.
[00:09:12] now we found out, well, it happens, yes, pots
[00:09:16] are made by a postgraduate student, yes, yes, yes, so he led
[00:09:20] to interest, and he himself graduated from the historical faculty
[00:09:23] of BSU, I somehow approached him for advice, because
[00:09:27] you know, there are some parents who press you, that you should be
[00:09:30] so-and-so, as if realizing their idea, but I was told, go wherever
[00:09:34] you want, and I thought, what can I do, history worked out best
[00:09:37] for me, well, and the social science cycle, I approached him, consulted, he
[00:09:41] told me about...
[00:10:12] then there are teachers at work, older colleagues who guide you, because
[00:10:16] well, I am still probably considered a young
[00:10:19] leader, I became head of the department at, I think, 28-29
[00:10:23] years old, deputy director at 32, then at 33-34
[00:10:26] director, it's clear that someone helped me, not that it was like
[00:10:30] a godparent, to help with the dissertation, defend it, that's the task of the scientific
[00:10:34] supervisor, then to give a recommendation for some
[00:10:37] position, so that it would be considered and so on, to give advice so that you would work normally in that position,
[00:10:40] carry out assignments and so on, so of course there are teachers, that's
[00:10:44] normal, it's mentoring, that's what is often talked about now,
[00:10:48] that young people need to be helped, including through the institution of mentoring, I
[00:10:52] can confirm from my own example that this is very important.
[00:11:25] for cultural workers to even put up
[00:11:28] certain signs where these objects are located in this city, and
[00:11:31] what is it like to accidentally
[00:11:34] unearth a church, it probably somehow
[00:11:38] excites there is nothing accidental
[00:11:41] of course, there are maps on which it was marked, but precisely to determine to the meter
[00:11:44] where, well, of course, that is, you were actually looking
[00:11:48] purposefully, yes, and well, you understand, archaeologists are always
[00:11:52] scientists, we are looking for something purposeful, not just anything.
[00:11:55] Yes, no, no, of course not, but sometimes it happens that you are looking for one thing,
[00:11:59] and you find another, I had a case in the Dyatlovo district,
[00:12:03] we just surveyed an archaeological monument, it's
[00:12:06] a hillfort, a "plate," as it's called, it's near
[00:12:10] the town of Rogotna, uh-huh, we just surveyed,
[00:12:13] by chance I, with students and Vadim Leonidovich,
[00:12:17] by the way, was with me then too, with local
[00:12:20] guys from the Dyatlovo gymnasium, discovered a previously unknown ground
[00:12:23] burial site,
[00:12:38] then we laid out an even bigger excavation and there were very interesting finds
[00:12:41] of burials precisely for these
[00:12:44] people to the other world, as if they laid jewelry and even
[00:12:48] weapons, someone was there, yes, well, not that they were noble, these were local
[00:12:51] people, but they still retained pagan beliefs, let's say.
[00:13:31] Well, why, first of all, wasn't it scary to dig up a burial, weren't you scared? No, well, I can generally say
[00:13:35] that the first time I dug up a burial, I had a nightmare
[00:13:39] that night, but then it was fine,
[00:13:42] it let go of me, although I faced people even refusing
[00:13:45] to dig, well, they were supposed to help, but they asked for another job
[00:13:49] and I especially remember one woman, I was talking about Sislach, when we
[00:13:52] were digging the church, and next to the church, there was a cemetery,
[00:13:56] it's clear, we found these deceased, and we were digging in
[00:14:00] the territory of the district executive committee, there's the agriculture department,
[00:14:03] well, and they said, you can leave them there in the basement, and there
[00:14:07] was a security woman, she was very worried at night that she had
[00:14:11] corpses under her, no, no, you know, I
[00:14:14] look at it more as a scientist, and what kind of nightmare
[00:14:18] was it, a ghost chasing you, gleme yes, something like
[00:14:21] that happened, yes, but I think it's just.
[00:14:55] anthropologists in the Institute of History, they immediately say, sex, age,
[00:14:59] what the person ate and what they died from, you can say, or what they were sick with, because all this is reflected on
[00:15:02] the bones, especially such age-related diseases, then
[00:15:06] again, it's a burial rite, those finds that catch
[00:15:10] rings, jewelry, even weapons, means the beliefs
[00:15:13] of people, that is, it means they believed that this would be useful to a person in the afterlife, this
[00:15:17] is mythology, which is practically little known, only these
[00:15:21] burial monuments give us an idea of this,
[00:15:24] mhm, of course. these very things, which give an idea of material culture,
[00:15:28] that is, it's a complex burial, and it also
[00:15:30] usually gives a very narrow chronology, especially if there are
[00:15:34] coins, that is, it can be quite well, let's say
[00:15:46] our viewers don't see that you're 2 meters tall, these
[00:15:50] people from the 14th-15th centuries, how tall were they?
[00:15:54] Well, 160-170, that is, I wouldn't say they were small, for
[00:15:57] women it's like normal now, normal,
[00:16:00] yes, well, of course, people like me, almost 2 meters tall, are much rarer,
[00:16:04] but they do exist, well, it depends on nutrition. because how we
[00:16:08] eat now, that is, our ancestors never ate as abundantly and as
[00:16:12] variedly as we do now, that is, we eat well now,
[00:16:15] of course, and I, as a historian, will tell you that Belarusians have never lived
[00:16:18] as well as we live now, in none of the historical periods, well, there just wasn't so much obesity, probably then
[00:16:22] there were problems too, you know, well, you know, I think it was always
[00:16:26] there, but here - it's hard to determine from the
[00:16:29] bones, no, well, various age-related
[00:16:32] changes can be seen there.
[00:16:35] well, of course, not so much, because so much, firstly, the teeth are in very
[00:16:39] good condition in general, and even when I worked with, there were
[00:16:43] school teachers with me and a woman said, oh my god, such teeth,
[00:16:47] well, practically without this, why? Because there wasn't so much
[00:16:50] sugar, we have even more sugar than when I remember my childhood in the 90s,
[00:16:54] we didn't eat as many candies as our
[00:16:58] children eat, even we ourselves, we ate candies on holidays, and
[00:17:01] children now eat them every day, it's every day and you won't
[00:17:04] surprise anyone. in fact, Ilda is known primarily for its
[00:17:38] castle, but the city was practically not
[00:17:41] studied, well, I didn't really want to go there, because
[00:17:45] I had never studied such a large, medieval city before,
[00:17:48] so, but then somehow
[00:17:52] I still had to go, I went there, they persuaded me, local
[00:17:55] staff from the museum also asked me, please
[00:17:58] come, we are waiting so much, and I came, in fact,
[00:18:02] what's difficult in the city is that, firstly, it's difficult to get
[00:18:05] permission to dig, because the city is completely populated and Lida is a large district
[00:18:09] center, well, when the executive committee gives
[00:18:12] the green light, excellent, then choose wherever you want to dig, secondly, well, wherever you want, there's
[00:18:16] asphalt everywhere, tiles everywhere, yes, but
[00:18:19] I chose a flowerbed, that is, in the yard, and so far, according to
[00:18:23] the maps, yes, this is the part
[00:18:25] of the historical center, you see how you approached the technical
[00:18:29] task in a businesslike manner, we will dig where there is a
[00:18:33] flowerbed, not tiles, in case we don't find anything, we'll just
[00:18:36] plough it, the excavations were very
[00:18:38] interesting, very well, of course, it was
[00:18:42] difficult for me, it's very difficult to dig in a city, more difficult than a burial, because
[00:18:46] there's an abundance of material, well, in a city
[00:18:49] there are more things, what is cultural history, what archaeologists deal with,
[00:18:52] what people threw away, or what remains of all of us, yes, that is,
[00:18:56] roughly speaking, all of it is everywhere, wherever you put a shovel,
[00:19:00] there is a cultural layer everywhere, yes, well, in
[00:19:02] cities,
[00:19:05] mostly in city centers, yes.
[00:19:37] is a sense of involvement in history important for you? Yes, you know,
[00:19:41] it's something that, you know, every scientist is
[00:19:43] a little, well, obsessed with their topic, I, for example, am obsessed with
[00:19:47] archaeology, and I this is both my hobby
[00:19:51] and my work, and my hobby, that is, I even dream
[00:19:54] about it, but when you work with people and see that they
[00:19:58] become interested, you understand that it's not only interesting
[00:20:01] to you or to scientists in your circle, but also to society, in Lida - that
[00:20:05] was a living example, because yes...
[00:21:50] Institute of History of the Academy of Sciences and we are now colleagues,
[00:21:53] so I am sure that many of these guys became interested in history,
[00:21:56] and what about Lida, let's finish,
[00:22:00] what did we understand about Lida, that it is indeed
[00:22:03] the oldest city, yes, no, what we know is that it is the oldest city, firstly, these
[00:22:07] excavations allowed us to outline
[00:22:09] the boundaries of the market square that was there approximately,
[00:22:13] secondly, it is the foundation of one of the houses that adjoined this
[00:22:17] quarter to this square in Lida, secondly, it is
[00:22:20] the peculiarities of house building, the bulk of the materials there are
[00:22:23] from the 19th, early 20th century, but there are older things,
[00:22:26] for example, from the 18th century, that is,
[00:22:30] an abundance of material culture, that is, what the local Lida residents
[00:22:33] used, what is important, I handed all this over to the Lida museum,
[00:22:37] that is, they can use it in their expositions,
[00:22:41] it shows not only that Lida is just a castle, but it is also the Lida residents who
[00:22:44] lived near this Lida castle, and besides, the castle was a bit intimidating,
[00:22:48] no, it doesn't produce that impression. Well, the castle itself didn't
[00:22:51] intimidate, it was like
[00:22:54] under these foundations, parts of walls, but of course it was heavily destroyed, and
[00:22:58] what we see as such a complete object, it was
[00:23:01] restored, but honestly, it's my favorite castle of all Belarusian ones,
[00:23:04] despite the fact that they criticize it for having red brick, but
[00:23:08] on the contrary, it allows me to see exactly where it's new and where it's
[00:23:12] old, that's first, but also, secondly, that it's
[00:23:15] made to look like it approximately looked in the 14th-15th century, I like
[00:23:18] that, generally...
[00:23:26] but in Novogrudok, it's not fully
[00:23:30] restored yet, there are no bricks there yet, no,
[00:23:33] there are bricks there, but I prefer
[00:23:37] Lida, because if it's about castles, although if it's about favorite cities,
[00:23:40] then I like Novogrudok more, yes, yes, you said that the most interesting
[00:23:44] finds are yet to come, what would you like
[00:23:46] to find, you have...
[00:26:16] for a short time, "Say Don't Be Silent" is back on air, today our guest is the director of the central
[00:26:20] scientific library named after Yakub Kolas of the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus,
[00:26:24] Stanislav Yuretsky. In this part, we will talk about the library and
[00:26:27] I think it's time to answer the most important question
[00:26:31] of our time, how to get to the library? Do you have
[00:26:34] a video announcing this journey?
[00:27:17] Well, it's clear that it's not central, yes, you can't see it from
[00:27:21] the avenue, you need to know where to turn a little, but still,
[00:27:25] if such a video appeared, it means not everyone
[00:27:28] knows the way to your library, agree?
[00:28:02] they are carried out by us remotely via
[00:28:05] the Internet, and I will even say, from last year's experience, about
[00:28:09] 500,000 requests per year, of which
[00:28:12] 450,000 are online, that is, online ordering
[00:28:15] of literature, some references, ordering
[00:28:18] electronic versions of documents, so how
[00:28:21] convenient it is now to study and work at home
[00:28:25] you can, yes, everything ordered
[00:28:28] you know, there are also, by the way, two sides of the coin, at home - it's
[00:28:31] convenient.
[00:29:02] distracted, let's remind the viewers that the Yakub Kolas Library
[00:29:06] celebrated its centennial
[00:29:09] anniversary last year, what does it mean for you to be its director,
[00:29:12] you got into this position almost by chance,
[00:29:15] but after some time, what can you say, what does it mean
[00:29:18] to you, for me it is a great responsibility, when you
[00:29:22] look back at the entire path taken by the organization, which started as
[00:29:25] a small library at the Institute of Belarusian Culture,
[00:29:28] then the Academy of Sciences was created from it. It went through
[00:29:32] the Great Patriotic War, when all the funds were evacuated, it was
[00:29:36] destroyed and, in fact, it was re-created
[00:29:40] after the war, so this is, of course, a great responsibility, you know, I was coming
[00:29:43] to you today, even in the morning I was dropping off my child at kindergarten, I see
[00:29:47] that a woman is sitting there in the window, some kindergarten
[00:29:50] employee on her phone, and a man of very advanced age,
[00:29:53] who was a doorman there or whoever I don't know, also on
[00:29:57] his phone, I thought, what is it they are reading
[00:30:01] and somehow it stuck with me. Recently I noticed, I started to notice,
[00:30:04] that the period has passed when paper
[00:30:07] books disappeared from the hands of Minsk residents, more and more often
[00:30:11] you meet people sitting in a square in a park, not with
[00:30:14] a gadget, but with a book, on public transport, again, there are also people
[00:30:18] who read books, this is also a good trend, in my opinion, no, well, this
[00:30:21] trend exists, it is understandable, yes, there was a period when it was thought
[00:30:25] that books would fade away, as they once
[00:30:27] said that theater would fade away because cinema was created, but nevertheless people go to
[00:30:31] the theater and... watch performances and not only go to
[00:30:34] the cinema, radio also remained, despite the fact that there is theater and
[00:30:38] cinema, just like a physical book, for example, I
[00:30:42] read a lot, I read a lot, but I will always
[00:30:45] choose a book over reading from a tablet, because
[00:30:48] nothing can replace the feeling of that
[00:30:50] motor skill, even if you work with a scientific text, I need to
[00:30:54] write down some notes, for example, stick them on, this motor skill
[00:30:57] is somewhat different than just, yes, when you just
[00:31:01] look at the screen. Or, for example, I still check
[00:31:04] the Belarus Today newspaper
[00:31:07] and other newspapers every morning, which I don't read, well, that's
[00:31:11] you, but what about young people, what about your daughter, will she have such motor skills?
[00:31:15] They say, well, I'm still,
[00:31:19] I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the fact that you have preserved it since your school days,
[00:31:22] since your student days, I'll put it this way, I also have a son, he's older,
[00:31:26] ah, well, unfortunately, I missed this,
[00:31:30] he couldn't speak yet, but he learned to turn on
[00:31:33] the tablet, remove the lock, turn on
[00:31:37] YouTube, select cartoons on YouTube that he was interested in, he couldn't speak yet,
[00:31:40] well, you understand, you can't say whether it's good or bad, it's life, they will be like that,
[00:31:44] it's...
[00:35:15] we, I hope, will present the full translation of this
[00:35:18] work this year. And explain, why was it important to re-publish
[00:35:21] his treatise? Well, look, why is it important?
[00:35:24] First of all, popularization, because specialists are familiar with this
[00:35:28] work, familiar with its text,
[00:35:31] it is important, you see,
[00:35:33] to show it in its full volume, because we say, great art
[00:35:37] of artillery, great art, what is written there, or at least what
[00:35:40] illustrations there are, well, you can guess something, there is also
[00:35:44] little about it on the Internet, and we decided to publish it in a fairly large print run, it
[00:35:48] is still available, by the way, in bookstores, such a good gift, I think,
[00:35:52] yes, among other things, because when you still
[00:35:55] hold a book in your hands, it's still
[00:35:58] quite different impressions, especially you can see the features
[00:36:01] of its text
[00:36:04] and the publication, well, here at the beginning we
[00:36:07] have the research part, where the features of the translation and biography
[00:36:11] of Casimir Sevich are written here...
[00:36:27] always close, well, unfortunately, yes, unfortunately,
[00:36:31] yes, how we develop, this is yes, in all
[00:36:34] periods of human history, therefore, of course, one of
[00:36:38] the tasks of our generation is to preserve a peaceful Belarus, which
[00:36:42] our head of state always talks about, this is our
[00:36:45] task, it is not easy, and we must all, each in his own
[00:36:49] place, do what he can for this, strive to preserve peace, a peaceful,
[00:36:53] creative life of ours. Stanislav Stepanovich, in one of
[00:36:56] your speeches, you spoke about the need.
[00:37:27] was to purchase certain equipment that would maintain not only
[00:37:31] the temperature, which can be achieved with an air conditioner, but also the air humidity, which
[00:37:35] is important for books that are constantly in the exhibition,
[00:37:37] constantly being presented, that is also very
[00:37:40] important, so the modernization of book preservation for all
[00:37:44] libraries is always very important, first of all, it is the maintenance of all
[00:37:47] conditions for fire safety, because any library is a fire-hazardous
[00:37:51] place, any just like an archive, yes, very dangerous, we remember
[00:37:54] the Alexandrian Library.
[00:38:27] will become a well-known figure in Belarusian culture, science, yes, we
[00:38:31] have correspondence on Telegram, by
[00:38:34] email, and it will not become public, then no, it will become
[00:38:37] public, but it is prohibited by law, no, it will, well,
[00:38:41] how, everyone passes it on either during their lifetime, or their relatives
[00:38:45] there, husbands, spouses pass it on, where to store it, how to
[00:38:48] store it, how to account for it, these are the tasks, because these are
[00:38:52] new challenges, I would say, right, how to account for it, how to store it, and how to store many
[00:38:55] books, you haven't figured it out? No, well, how do we store it, well, more than
[00:38:59] 4 million storage units, the national library has even more,
[00:39:03] there are other libraries where we store a lot, these are shelves, shelving
[00:39:06] systems, ventilation systems, this is
[00:39:09] dedusting and so on, and have any new technologies appeared
[00:39:12] that are replacing old ones, are they,
[00:39:15] let's say, more energy-saving, less some kind of
[00:39:18] vacuum packaging, I don't know, there are, it's all not so
[00:39:22] new, I would say that the main thing that has been changing library life
[00:39:25] for a long time, but faster and faster, faster is
[00:39:28] the Internet, it's again working with remote
[00:39:31] access, people now rarely visit, and this will be the trend
[00:39:35] further, especially here it's just about
[00:39:37] information, because libraries are different, it's now saying library,
[00:39:40] issued a book, took a book, no,
[00:39:44] there are the most massive public libraries, city, district,
[00:39:48] regional, they are more focused on cultural events,
[00:39:52] that is, you can say that there are meetings with poets, with writers, there are
[00:39:55] some clubs and so on, Chinese
[00:40:34] scientists, and all this will be through digital internet, this
[00:40:38] is what is intensifying every year, we are implementing more and more,
[00:40:41] perhaps the idea of a book depository will take
[00:40:45] a back seat, servers will be in first place, no,
[00:40:48] the book will still be in first place, because for now
[00:40:52] everything, everything, you know, I'll tell you what, everything that can be touched, probably everything that
[00:40:56] has been published... remains, there is a good saying, what is published
[00:40:59] remains, what is currently digital, I'm not sure that
[00:41:03] it's forever, for example, if there's no
[00:41:06] electricity or there are restrictions on Internet
[00:41:10] access, how to provide access, so I'll
[00:41:14] tell you that we continue to maintain not only an electronic catalog, you can
[00:41:17] even access it from your phone and check what we have, what we don't, order,
[00:41:21] if you're registered, well, and a card catalog, I personally
[00:41:25] haven't used it since my first year, that was
[00:41:28] 2007-2008, when I was still a student, I personally didn't
[00:41:32] even now, I know it's there, and well,
[00:41:35] what if, for example, you need it?
[00:41:39] нужна будет?
[00:42:10] publications, rather than if there is a choice only in an electronic collection
[00:42:13] or yes, I agree with you, it's all dust and there's no electronic
[00:42:17] anything, yes, you probably also worked when with texts, it
[00:42:21] disappears in an unknown direction, when you
[00:42:24] printed it, you no longer, well, although he says that what is on the Internet, it
[00:42:28] always remains, but I have doubts,
[00:42:31] maybe as a historian, you know, I always approach something new, so that it's material,
[00:42:35] do you argue, your wife works at the Institute of
[00:42:38] History,
[00:44:10] the project itself started in 2005, from 2010 they started publishing these
[00:44:14] catalogs, when I became director, the question arose: will we
[00:44:17] finish, continue, because they had done the bulk by this
[00:44:21] time by 2022, but
[00:44:23] a small und описанная portion remained. part of this
[00:44:26] library, and you know, how new
[00:44:29] directors still, there's a temptation to overturn what was
[00:44:32] done before you, well to steer this
[00:44:36] ship in a completely new way, and there was such an opportunity, that is, I...
[00:44:40] when I was appointed to this position, that I should do it in a new way,
[00:44:43] and so on, that is to lead this institution, but I
[00:44:47] still, after consulting with colleagues, with scientists who work in this library
[00:44:50] of mine, we still continued this project and
[00:44:54] re-published it, and last year the final volume came out, in essence, one can
[00:44:58] say, the entire library of Radiiev, which we inherited,
[00:45:02] after, by the way, the holiday will be on September 17th, the Day
[00:45:05] of Reunification, thanks to this, including Belarus largely
[00:45:09] acquired this.
[00:45:40] from your library, maybe some
[00:45:43] original gift? Well, of course, it's on
[00:45:46] the surface, it's to present our
[00:45:49] history through books, through archives, including
[00:45:53] archives of prominent figures of science, culture, well,
[00:45:57] to help with the experience that we have, we will certainly try
[00:46:00] to apply it, we will help with what we can, of course, our
[00:46:04] collection is ready to be given
[00:46:06] museum, the collections, it's not my collection, it's a general
[00:46:10] collection of the director, there isn't one yet, well
[00:46:14] I am the director, yes, but I don't consider that
[00:46:17] I sat on these funds for no one, of course, every director
[00:46:20] is interested in his library or museum having something
[00:46:24] unique, but the national museum is a common asset, a common cause,
[00:46:28] therefore, certainly, if there is an interest in filling
[00:46:31] this museum with our, be it book
[00:46:34] book copies or archival ones, then we
[00:46:38] will consider it an honor if they are... presented in the exhibition of the National Museum? Well, I
[00:46:42] heard something like that, that a lot of digital content is expected there, so
[00:46:46] will there be any books as books at all? No, well, no,
[00:46:49] digital content is good, but on the other hand.
[00:48:23] Well, a beautiful city, precisely in the museum, I myself am even
[00:48:26] surprised how dedicated people are, as they say,
[00:48:30] to their work, well, I was recently in the Turov Museum,
[00:48:33] of course, there is what is under the dome, that is, the temple of the Old Russian
[00:48:37] period, but there is also a museum where there are wonderful
[00:48:40] ethnographic samples of Poleshuks
[00:48:43] and so on, you can't turn off the historian in yourself, and I am
[00:48:47] telling you about ordinary people, well, I don't know, I am also an ordinary person
[00:48:50] to some extent.
[00:49:52] it should be, but a beautiful picture, in my opinion, it should
[00:49:56] emphasize these artifacts, these books, some
[00:49:59] samples of what
[00:50:03] now the generation has a clip thinking, it will be even worse later,
[00:50:06] well, what I see in my children and in others, in students,
[00:50:10] I also teach at the university, well, look, an analog in this shard or
[00:50:14] pot, or on the screen this beautifully flown
[00:50:17] shard and flown somewhere, well,
[00:50:20] what has an emotional impact? On a child, it's cooler, what do
[00:50:23] you think? Well, you see, emotions should carry some
[00:50:27] semantic load, if someone suddenly jumps out, that's also emotions, well, and
[00:50:31] the pot flew by, so what, there should be some meaning, but nothing, it
[00:50:35] just flew by, you know what a wind tunnel in a shopping
[00:50:38] center, right? Well, yes, but we are a museum, as it seems to me,
[00:50:42] at least what I think
[00:50:46] about, the museum, it is being built, and the new
[00:50:49] exhibition is not for nothing, it is necessary to...
[00:51:22] I don't use TikTok, but I use some reels on Instagram, yes, when, for what,
[00:51:26] when you need to turn off your brain, that's seriously, and I don't know a single person
[00:51:30] who learned anything on TikTok, well, maybe I'm wrong, well, they know how to pickle
[00:51:33] cucumbers there, believe me, no, the person who
[00:51:36] presents it knows how to, will the person who
[00:51:40] watches learn, well, maybe, but I'm still, you know,
[00:51:44] critical of this, in
[00:51:46] the next part of our program, we will find out why our guest once
[00:51:50] visited Baikonur, but for now let's take a break, no need.
[00:52:05] In the air again, "Don't Be Silent," our guest today is the director of the Central
[00:52:09] Scientific Library named after Yakub Kolas, National
[00:52:12] Academy of Sciences of Belarus, Stanislav Yuretsky.
[00:52:16] Stanislav Stepanovich, let's discuss Baikonur, after all, how did you end
[00:52:20] up there? I ended up there somewhat
[00:52:23] by chance, a delegation was being formed
[00:52:26] to see off our Marina Vasilevskaya
[00:52:30] into space, and was this before or after?
[00:52:33] No, this was after.
[00:53:05] how many resources have been invested and, most importantly, intellect, to create
[00:53:08] a cosmodrome in the desert of Kazakhstan, how much
[00:53:11] effort, energy has been invested, and when
[00:53:14] Marina flew, that is, the fact that Belarus has become a full-fledged space
[00:53:18] power, its own cosmonaut, believe me, it's also
[00:53:21] an indescribable, more like, a historical moment, and who else but a historian should be
[00:53:24] present at it? You recently attended the Science Festival with your daughter,
[00:53:28] which was held in the botanical garden, what exhibits
[00:53:31] or perhaps experiments impressed you the most?
[00:54:05] little notches on its body, on this bracelet, and you can only see it up
[00:54:08] very close, I looked at it and I was very impressed,
[00:54:12] and who were the contacts with, it turns out? That is, well, these were
[00:54:16] Slavs, when they came here, the local population, most likely
[00:54:20] Balto-speaking, who had a cult of the snake, this is most
[00:54:23] likely how they communicated
[00:54:26] with each other, these contacts show it, this is my brightest
[00:54:29] impression, but for a child, I
[00:54:32] think that... the Institute of History printed
[00:54:35] these, they're great, they're like
[00:54:38] coloring books of the medieval population of Belarus,
[00:54:41] you had to color them with pencils, the child is very active, not only mine,
[00:54:45] I took everyone to our library location, left her there
[00:54:48] for a while, she also drew, you could create
[00:54:52] your own ex-libris there, by the way, it's a kind of ownership
[00:54:56] mark, which is either
[00:54:58] printed or stamped or glued to books,
[00:55:02] well, in principle, the interest of children, yes, there
[00:55:06] were many of them, to this festival, it warms your
[00:55:09] soul, do you believe in the future of science? Of course,
[00:55:12] I believe, science is the future, and I can
[00:55:15] say from the students I work with, that they, not all,
[00:55:19] of course, not everyone can be scientists, and not everyone needs
[00:55:22] to be scientists, but a certain percentage of inquisitive people who
[00:55:26] are ready to sit for days, hours, nights and
[00:55:29] think, invent, come up with something new,
[00:55:32] prove something, you understand, I'll look beyond the horizon, task.
[00:56:05] We certainly wish you to find in your
[00:56:08] burial mounds, as you like to call them, something valuable,
[00:56:11] to make that very discovery that the whole world will know about, Tatyana
[00:56:15] Shcherbina, Victoria Popova, we say goodbye to you today, goodbye, goodbye,
[00:56:19] now Stanislav Yuretsky speaks.
[00:56:22] Dear colleagues, friends, study the history
[00:56:25] of Belarus, it is actually very interesting, come to
[00:56:28] libraries, museums and the Academy of Sciences, we will
[00:56:32] always be happy to tell you something new and interesting.
[00:56:36] Stanislav Stepanovich, we talked a lot today about the fact that for us
[00:56:39] a book still remains the best gift, and as
[00:56:42] we see, your words are not at odds with your deeds, you also came with
[00:56:45] gifts to us, yes, we talked about this book today,
[00:56:49] this is Kazimierz Semenovich, a facsimile edition, this
[00:56:52] book treasure of the National Academy of Belarus, that is, here
[00:56:55] are collected all our most
[00:56:59] valuable editions, which I hope will interest readers, so I
[00:57:03] will sign it.
[00:57:07] Today,
[00:57:16] here you go.