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[00:19:18] Hello, on the air of the Belarusian radio and television channel
[00:19:21] Belarus24, analytical project Actual Microphone. With
[00:19:24] you, host Dmitry Varanyuk, co-host Elena Shvaiko, and today
[00:19:28] our studio guest is Tishchenko Alexander Vladimirovich, national security
[00:19:31] expert. Hello, Alexander Vladimirovich, I welcome you. In
[00:19:35] these days, Minsk and Belarus are becoming
[00:19:37] the center of such global events, international events. Well,
[00:19:41] firstly, today a meeting of the Eurasian Law Council will be held, and already
[00:19:45] next week Minsk
[00:19:48] is preparing to host the largest counter-terrorism forum of the CIS
[00:19:52] countries and SCO countries, a large-scale event, 28
[00:19:55] states, 10 other international organizations will
[00:19:59] come here. To begin with, I would like to ask you, as a national security
[00:20:03] expert, what kind of forum this is in general and what
[00:20:06] role our country plays here
[00:20:09] in forming this common security agenda in the Eurasian
[00:20:13] space, why such a large-scale forum will be held
[00:20:16] in Minsk. Well, let's first of all determine that
[00:20:20] Minsk as a platform has long been fixed in this
[00:20:23] area. In this case, such a
[00:20:26] multi-factor or multi-contour
[00:20:29] format of the forum, which is gathering in Minsk, is connected with the fact
[00:20:33] that we are trying to overcome fragmentation,
[00:20:36] to create a single block, a single system that
[00:20:40] will resist all those proxy threats that
[00:20:43] are being formed around not only the Union State, there
[00:20:47] the CIS, but Eurasia in general. Why? Because,
[00:20:50] probably, international terrorism is
[00:20:54] an outdated concept. So,
[00:20:57] counter-terrorism, as we consider it today, is probably
[00:21:01] not just a fight against some criminal
[00:21:03] elements, or fanatics. It's about
[00:21:07] the West having long aimed at
[00:21:11] the structures of Eurasia, not
[00:21:13] only the Union State, and views
[00:21:17] Eurasia as the cradle
[00:21:20] of multipolarity. You see, this
[00:21:24] attempt - to beat babies,
[00:21:27] yes, in the Eurasian
[00:21:29] space,
[00:21:32] it is already doomed, because Eurasia has gone far
[00:21:36] ahead, it is no longer the third
[00:21:39] world, as it was customary in the West to believe,
[00:21:42] and we see today that the stereotypes
[00:21:46] that were imposed on us, including by Western parameters...
[00:21:50] regarding counter-terrorism activities,
[00:21:53] they do not suit us today. Today we
[00:21:57] are working out new technologies, new methods, new approaches, new
[00:22:00] views, our own. Why?
[00:22:03] Because we began to understand that terrorism as
[00:22:06] such is a proxy instrument, with the help
[00:22:09] of which attempts are made to shake
[00:22:12] the state foundations of precisely the countries
[00:22:15] of Eurasia, for what? In order to prevent
[00:22:18] multipolarity. As such, shaking the countries
[00:22:22] of our region today is already useless and
[00:22:25] impossible. Why? Because the security of these states is already
[00:22:29] guarded by such structures as the
[00:22:32] CIS, CSTO, SCO, that is, these issues,
[00:22:36] today everyone has developed a certain practice,
[00:22:39] already combines into a single system.
[00:22:43] Why Minsk in this matter? Because Minsk
[00:22:46] today is a model from the point of view.
[00:24:20] They, upon closer inspection,
[00:24:24] are also proxy instruments.
[00:24:28] We were specifically told that these are some bandits, some
[00:24:31] groups, only taken from somewhere unknown,
[00:24:35] but they did not say that the beneficiaries are in
[00:24:38] the West, these groups are controlled by
[00:24:41] the West, and this
[00:24:44] is no longer just some criminological
[00:24:47] factor, it is a military-political one. These are
[00:24:50] proxy instruments that are indeed trying
[00:24:53] to strike at state foundations and
[00:24:57] try to destabilize the state, prepare
[00:25:00] them for aggression, excuse me, that is, so that it would be
[00:25:03] susceptible. Therefore, when we talk about our
[00:25:06] science, about our education in this area, it means that we
[00:25:10] have made mistakes on our own
[00:25:13] issues and problems. We now understand more, know
[00:25:17] more, when we start this matter at all.
[00:25:50] Shanghai Cooperation Organization, yes, we started with the humanitarian sphere, now
[00:25:54] economic integration is actively developing,
[00:25:56] so security, in your opinion,
[00:26:00] how important is it today within the framework of such
[00:26:03] structures to develop security as a separate track,
[00:26:06] we will not use Americanisms, including,
[00:26:09] числе,
[00:26:11] can this develop further, what plane can this security
[00:26:14] topic generally occupy in the CIS space, in the SCO
[00:26:17] space? Well, if we look at it in detail,
[00:26:21] then threats and problems usually come from the
[00:26:24] East and West, yes, for example, there is a state that today
[00:26:28] is a source, yes, from where these
[00:26:32] instruments come directly, but there are states that act
[00:26:35] as beneficiaries. If they act
[00:26:39] physically, like sending all sorts of terrorists
[00:26:42] and groups, yes, then the second ones send
[00:26:45] finances. So these things meet
[00:26:49] precisely in the Eurasian space, and
[00:26:52] here, if, for example, the SCO, then it is clear that
[00:26:55] this is about formats related
[00:26:58] to economics, yes, from the point of view of
[00:27:02] economic security, from the point of view of the
[00:27:06] military situation, yes, then, of course, the western outpost, in this
[00:27:09] regard Belarus is at the forefront of events,
[00:27:13] so when we say why this
[00:27:16] happened, the experience was essentially formed first at
[00:27:20] the level of the Union State CIS, yes, then it was formed at
[00:27:24] the level of the CSTO, then these same countries
[00:27:27] began to form within the framework of the SCO, yes, when this experience
[00:27:30] began to be transferred to...
[00:28:02] hegemon and its satellites. Based on
[00:28:06] this, we are forced to realize that we need to invest in
[00:28:10] this format, why? Because by not
[00:28:12] protecting these paths and routes of multipolarity, we
[00:28:16] are doomed. Therefore, in order not to become
[00:28:20] a target or become a victim, one must become - as
[00:28:23] they say, a leading factor. Therefore, everything here is very
[00:28:27] clearly understandable. You spoke about sharing experience, but
[00:28:30] what experience can Belarus share
[00:28:34] and what can it offer its security
[00:28:37] colleagues? Well, look, let's
[00:28:40] say this: first, cognitive security, yes, in what
[00:28:43] sense? That is, we demonstrated
[00:28:47] how effectively and how rigidly one must act in terms
[00:28:50] of protecting hostile,
[00:28:54] destructive external meanings that they are trying to
[00:28:57] impose on us. Further, information
[00:29:00] technologies, military...
[00:29:32] stood their ground, yes, regarding the most
[00:29:35] powerful pressure from the West. No one else
[00:29:37] but Belarus was subjected to such pressure. All the others who
[00:29:40] were targeted, yes, they were victims of these thousand cuts,
[00:29:44] but Belarus was tried to be hit
[00:29:47] hard, and in this regard, we demonstrated
[00:29:50] how a small country can become a fortress,
[00:29:54] and this fortress today is
[00:29:57] a model for many states within the SCO, and
[00:30:00] not just once.
[00:30:03] Let's move on to the Western vector in contrast.
[00:30:07] It's also interesting to hear your opinion. A meeting of the working group on
[00:30:10] the future of NATO is also being prepared. Just
[00:30:13] this week we heard many different
[00:30:17] statements, starting from the US itself, where
[00:30:20] they say that we will not invite NATO,
[00:30:23] Great Britain, France to the meeting, well,
[00:30:26] ending with the leaders of some individual European states, in principle,
[00:30:30] the leaders of the NATO bloc itself, about
[00:30:34] them again militarized slogans, attacks on
[00:30:37] the Kaliningrad region of the Russian Federation and constantly, constantly
[00:30:41] the topic sounds that the Russian Federation, and we,
[00:30:44] considering that Belarus is within the framework of the Union State, therefore Belarus also, that it is
[00:30:47] an aggressor, that it is a threat, and this, this is pumping up
[00:30:51] militarized structures, the population, the entire information
[00:30:54] platform, in principle. So I would like to talk about what is happening in
[00:30:58] NATO today in general, on the one hand, such harsh rhetoric of Europeans
[00:31:02] against the entire East, on the other hand,
[00:31:05] the US position that we will reorganize
[00:31:09] NATO and will not invite France,
[00:31:13] Great Britain to the group meeting. What is happening there? Analysis
[00:31:21] in this regard, I will say this, if you discard all the noise, yes,
[00:31:25] white, which shrouds this whole situation, maybe
[00:31:28] deliberately, yes, yes, deliberately, of course, I will say this, if
[00:31:32] you take a map and lay out all the participants who
[00:31:35] were invited, and then also
[00:31:39] remember who suddenly became a newly
[00:31:42] NATO member, then immediately arises...
[00:32:45] Germany, why, do you think she will
[00:32:48] fight? No, this is a barrier detachment,
[00:32:52] its task is a barrier detachment on the path
[00:32:54] of possible escape or retreat of Polish
[00:32:58] forces, you see, so that they do not retreat. Therefore, this is why
[00:33:01] Germany is in this bloc. Here already Finland, Sweden, there,
[00:33:05] Norway, yes, these are the guys who will have to close all these
[00:33:09] narrow corridors that lead from
[00:33:12] the side of Murmansk,
[00:33:22] the Arctic and
[00:33:23] the North.
[00:33:26] What, to compete with Russia economically in
[00:33:29] the Arctic? America is not capable, therefore
[00:33:33] it is only considering today the situation
[00:33:36] related to strengthening military
[00:33:39] presence and military blockade, although this is also
[00:33:42] such a question, you know how...
[00:34:45] this is a thorn, I would like to say in the fifth point, but I will
[00:34:49] say in Article Five of NATO, why? Because the Kaliningrad
[00:34:52] region in this regard and the Suwalki Corridor
[00:34:55] is a very strong irritant. The Kaliningrad
[00:34:58] region, it is sufficiently equipped in
[00:35:02] terms of responses and
[00:35:05] support for the main forces,
[00:35:08] if something happens, yes, regarding
[00:35:10] unblocking the path to the Atlantic, so
[00:35:13] here... Of course, there is simply more of a
[00:35:17] semantic cognitive escalation
[00:35:20] of the situation around Kaliningrad, but the fact that
[00:35:24] Kaliningrad is becoming a potential military target
[00:35:26] today, this cannot be ruled out at all,
[00:35:30] yes, there could be a harsh response in this
[00:35:33] regard, but I will say
[00:35:36] that
[00:35:38] this is also a challenge to militarization, that
[00:35:42] is, again the old rake, yes? So that we step on
[00:35:46] the rake of the arms race,
[00:35:48] so here you need to think and analyze more, but in
[00:35:52] general the contour is like this, the Arctic, it's clear, good, but
[00:35:56] against this background, support for Ukraine, NATO again declared, especially in...