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[00:00:00] make a normal flax factory, did it turn out
[00:00:02] to make the Slutsk flax factory normal, and how the enterprise
[00:00:06] works today, we will show right
[00:00:08] now.
[00:00:16] The old house is really a thing of the past. A neat territory
[00:00:19] is what production culture begins with, not just on the site itself.
[00:00:23] It's important what's in the fields. Well, you
[00:00:26] harvest them yourselves, as I understand it. These fields are not only in the Slutsk district,
[00:00:30] throughout the region. Well, the raw material zone of our enterprise is located in four districts of the Minsk
[00:00:34] region. These are the Slutsk district, Kopyl district, Soligorsk district and Lyuban
[00:00:38] district. As I said, the harvesting area is
[00:00:41] 4,507 hectares.
[00:00:44] In the main, we try, of course, to harvest
[00:00:48] as much as possible ourselves, but we receive help and support
[00:00:51] from the farms in our raw material zone. Equipment and
[00:00:55] people are allocated. This year, under the regional budget program,
[00:00:59] about 50 specialized trailers
[00:01:02] for transporting rolls, as well as
[00:01:05] balers, and also new
[00:01:08] new tractors were purchased for the Minsk region, and they
[00:01:12] work on farms. When the harvesting season begins, harvesting
[00:01:15] activities begin in our raw material zone, this equipment
[00:01:19] is brought in to assist our factory. Such
[00:01:22] mutual assistance helps solve another urgent problem for
[00:01:26] the enterprise: to meet the harvesting deadlines? Yes, this year.
[00:02:14] which again made it difficult to harvest it later. It must be said that the problems here are typical
[00:02:18] for the region as a whole. The Slutsk factory understands them and is ready
[00:02:21] to correct the situation, especially since the enterprise has taken a course
[00:02:25] for active development. Now they are engaged in their production
[00:02:28] site in Lyubon. At this enterprise, jointly
[00:02:32] with the Chinese side, we
[00:02:36] have installed lines for the production of cottonized fiber,
[00:02:40] in the future, so that this will
[00:02:43] allow us to process
[00:02:45] the existing flax straw more quickly,
[00:02:49] to obtain cottonized flax fiber, that is,
[00:02:53] position of Belarus as one of we are, as it were, expanding the range of processing, yes, flax factories fulfill state orders,
[00:02:57] but they still operate in modern market conditions, where
[00:03:01] every ruble earned is an investment that needs to be
[00:03:04] invested in production and the well-being of their
[00:03:07] teams. Separate enterprises in the industry
[00:03:10] have carried out modernization of production, which
[00:03:14] has allowed to increase the quality of flax
[00:03:17] fiber, the assortment and volumes of manufactured
[00:03:21] products. At the same time, this situation is not in all enterprises. In
[00:03:25] some flax factories, equipment is worn out,
[00:03:28] modernization deadlines are delayed, and accordingly,
[00:03:32] the quality and volume of flax fiber production
[00:03:35] suffer, including long fiber, which is most in demand. This
[00:03:39] year, the committee identified problematic issues
[00:03:42] of flax cultivation. For example, some flax factories delayed
[00:03:46] sowing by more than
[00:03:49] already begun to fulfill its part of 20 days instead of the prescribed 10 days according to the technical regulations.
[00:03:53] Untimely preparation of equipment for
[00:03:56] flax pulling led to the fact that these works
[00:04:00] were delayed. The retting periods
[00:04:03] for flax straw were increased, as a result of which its quality
[00:04:07] indicators decreased. We continue to study the situation in
[00:04:10] different regions. Brekhchina is
[00:04:12] next.
[00:04:21] We arrived in Lyakhovichi, a local flax factory that, five years ago,
[00:04:25] was operating at a loss and was looking for ways out of the difficult
[00:04:28] situation. They decided to completely
[00:04:30] restart operations with an emphasis on economic
[00:04:33] efficiency. They focused again on waste-free
[00:04:36] production. We have already talked about fuel from shives using the example
[00:04:40] of other enterprises, but here they found something new. In
[00:04:44] 2022, we
[00:04:46] purchased a press for oil production.
[00:04:50] The byproduct, the so-called
[00:04:52] oilseed cake or meal, whatever you want
[00:04:56] to call it, but these are additional funds, let's say, for...
[00:05:42] technology research at all stages, starting from the field:
[00:05:45] fertilizers, equipment, everything is selected by themselves.
[00:05:49] Interchanges of suitable areas that occur with
[00:05:53] agricultural enterprises showed another
[00:05:56] efficiency, for example, any
[00:05:58] agricultural enterprise after flax
[00:06:02] gladly takes this territory, because the fertilizers
[00:06:05] and microelements that the flax
[00:06:09] factory invests are enough for another 2 years for this enterprise.
[00:06:12] That's all. Today the flax factory operates with a net
[00:06:15] profit. In 9 months, this is 6 million rubles. The staff
[00:06:19] consists of 200 people, and there is enough work for everyone.
[00:06:23] 12 tons of tri-stuff have been prepared, which is enough for the entire
[00:06:26] season. By the way, part of the raw materials will go to the new
[00:06:29] line. Here we see fiber, very pleasant to the
[00:06:32] touch, obtained with the help of this new line, which we see. What
[00:06:36] is the benefit of it and what is this fiber for? In
[00:06:39] 2024, thanks to the program.
[00:07:42] The launch of the new line was coordinated personally by the chief engineer, Anton
[00:07:46] Maslovsky, who is only 30 years old, but he considers his main achievement
[00:07:50] not even a high position, but his family, which is already large,
[00:07:54] by the way. His wife is currently on maternity leave with their third child. Nevertheless,
[00:07:57] the team is also a family, and the factory is like a second home, and
[00:08:01] the weather in it is in good hands. Is there
[00:08:04] generally a future for the industry, why is it important to deal with flax,
[00:08:08] not to abandon this business? Of course, the flax industry is
[00:08:42] technologies, discipline, and behind them economic
[00:08:45] successes. Flax is a symbol of Belarus, a strong
[00:08:49] brand, behind which is the daily work of huge teams in all
[00:08:53] regions of the country.
[00:09:23] For me, Belarus is clean, open,
[00:09:27] decent.
[00:09:34] I have two homelands. We all say that when we come,
[00:09:37] we say goodbye and say, we have two homelands, Belarus and
[00:09:40] Kazakhstan, but we have one heart.
[00:10:12] I
[00:10:12] like it.
[00:10:17] What is Belarus for me? Blue-eyed,
[00:10:20] cloud-covered, full of lakes, and I want
[00:10:23] to say, my homeland.
[00:10:56] Belarus is always open to cooperation with Russian
[00:11:00] regions. Today, cooperation within the Union framework was
[00:11:03] discussed at the Palace of Independence. Our President held
[00:11:06] a meeting with the head of the Altai Republic, Andrey Charykov. The
[00:11:10] main areas of development here are tourism and
[00:11:13] agriculture. They agreed to explore the possibility of
[00:11:16] establishing direct air service
[00:11:18] between Minsk.
[00:11:20] We are in first place in this enormous Eurasian
[00:11:24] region.
[00:12:25] The Republic of Belarus has extensive expertise in the
[00:12:28] sanatorium and resort industry. We have agreed
[00:12:32] that our country will select the appropriate sites for building a
[00:12:35] sanatorium on the territory of our mountainous
[00:12:38] republic. The government discussed the areas of
[00:12:42] cooperation in more detail. A meeting of the working group on
[00:12:45] cooperation between Belarus and
[00:12:48] the Republic.
[00:12:52] The strategic partnership between Belarus and now allows us to
[00:12:56] move from basic trade in goods to full-fledged cooperation. During
[00:13:00] the official visit, Minister of Foreign Affairs
[00:13:02] Maxim Rybakov gave interviews to a number of
[00:13:06] Vietnamese media. Joint work opens up new opportunities
[00:13:10] for Minsk and Hanoi, including ones for the promotion of goods on
[00:13:13] the markets of third countries. Using our
[00:13:18] the industrial centers of the Eurasian Economic Union, we
[00:13:22] should promote there some interesting topics that
[00:13:25] are important for Vietnam, promote such products that we
[00:13:28] are promoting in Belarus together with Vietnam, given that in this
[00:13:32] case, Belarus will be the gateway for Vietnamese
[00:13:35] goods. At the same time, Vietnam is very important to
[00:13:39] us, not only from the point of view of the market, a huge
[00:13:43] market, a market of 100 million, but
[00:13:46] also as our gateway to Southeast
[00:13:49] Asia.
[00:13:55] During the humanitarian operation in the frontline town of
[00:13:58] Olesky in Kherson direction, a plane carrying the
[00:14:01] Russian delegation arrived at the Gomel airport, and the Ukrainian
[00:14:05] delegation arrived in Nova Huta. Belarus will become the
[00:14:08] first starting point for major international protests and has
[00:14:14] the obligation under the previously researched agreements to facilitate a
[00:14:18] humanitarian operation. The Russian and Ukrainian sides, with the
[00:14:22] mediation of the United States, reached an agreement on
[00:14:42] the first Minsk agreements, the second ones. Meetings are constantly held on the
[00:14:46] territory of Belarus, and they end with positive humanitarian
[00:14:49] initiatives, including the exchange of prisoners of
[00:14:52] war.
[00:14:56] The exchange of experience in the field of radioecological monitoring
[00:15:00] and management of territories with elevated radiation background
[00:15:04] between Polesie State Radiation and Ecological Reserve and the
[00:15:07] Ural State Reserve will reach a new level. Polesie State
[00:15:11] Radiation and Ecological Reserve and the leading enterprise of Russia's
[00:15:15] nuclear weapons complex, Mayak Production Association, signed a
[00:15:18] memorandum of cooperation within the framework of the 30th Belarusian
[00:15:22] Energy Forum. Both reserves are unique nuclear
[00:15:25] heritage sites. The document is intended to lay the foundation for
[00:15:29] joint research activities in the nuclear heritage
[00:15:31] territories.
[00:15:36] Intensification of regional trade and economic cooperation as a
[00:15:39] factor in strengthening relations between the two countries. Belarus and
[00:15:43] Uzbekistan are finding new ways of beneficial cooperation.
[00:15:47] This is primarily trade and creation of joint ventures.
[00:15:51] Representatives of the Minsk and Fergana oblasts signed nine
[00:15:54] agreements totaling about $20 million dollars during a large-scale
[00:15:58] business forum that brought together hundreds of business
[00:16:01] representatives.
[00:16:03] The main areas, of course, are agriculture,
[00:16:07] healthcare, and pharmaceuticals. Our
[00:16:10] delegation currently includes more than 50
[00:16:14] representatives who are working with their counterparts
[00:16:17] and developing new areas of
[00:16:19] cooperation.
[00:18:02] snails as an environmentally friendly and healthy product
[00:18:06] of the future. Grapes are quite a unique crop, it's not
[00:18:10] for nothing that this plant is one of the very first and one
[00:18:14] of the few mentioned in the Bible.
[00:18:16] Библии,
[00:18:19] Not only the berries
[00:18:22] are used from grapes. The seeds are used in cosmetics,
[00:18:25] perfumery, food, and for oil production, in
[00:18:29] confectionery.
[00:18:31] Senior researcher, curator of the grape collection at
[00:18:34] the Institute of Fruit Growing at the Academy of Sciences.
[00:18:37] Project One Day. Watch on
[00:18:40] Belarus 24 TV channel.
[00:19:57] My authority was confirmed by my voters when I became a deputy.
[00:20:01] People say that deputies drive Mercedes with flashing lights
[00:20:05] and have a dacha in Drozdakh. This is not a political show,
[00:20:08] but we have normal, systematic work
[00:20:11] in parliament. But we should not turn the army into some
[00:20:15] sanatorium. There should be no
[00:20:18] excesses in the armed forces. If young people are like that, it's not their
[00:20:22] fault, it's our fault. They need to be educated. When I
[00:20:25] recall the events of 2020 and the statements of Mr.
[00:20:29] Macron, yes, there about democratic
[00:20:32] approaches, about free expression
[00:20:34] of will,
[00:20:37] unacceptability. All of this, his phrases from 2020, just pop into my head.
[00:20:40] What do I think? I gloat, but there is
[00:20:44] a significant difference: our protests were organized
[00:20:47] from outside, and their protests are
[00:20:51] protests of their own people and from within. It doesn't matter where
[00:20:55] this drone flies and it doesn't matter from which side
[00:20:58] people die,
[00:21:00] from one or the other. It's
[00:21:04] truly a tragedy. The only place on
[00:21:06] earth where you will feel safe is your homeland.
[00:21:28] Hello, you are watching the program "Don't Be Silent." In the studio are Victoria Popova and
[00:21:31] Tatyana Shcherbina. And today our guest is deputy and
[00:21:34] colonel Ruslan Shkodin. Good afternoon, Ruslan
[00:21:38] Nikolaevich. We will debunk myths.
[00:21:40] People say that deputies drive Mercedes with flashing lights
[00:21:44] and have a dacha in Drozdakh. Have you already acquired
[00:21:47] a dacha in Drozdakh, that is, you immediately. Oh,
[00:21:53] how does a normal person react to stupidity? We
[00:21:56] probably encounter some... everyone probably
[00:22:00] encounters ordinary human
[00:22:03] stupidity, when a person
[00:22:05] does not
[00:22:07] think about anything, just repeats a phrase that he heard somewhere, sometime,
[00:22:10] or some established narrative, not attaching
[00:22:14] importance to it. So I usually treat it
[00:22:17] with humor. Thank God, every day... such questions are not
[00:22:20] asked. My neighbors, who see me in the entrance, in the house,
[00:22:24] who see where I live, what I drive, that is, they don't ask
[00:22:28] me such questions every day. But the fact is that all deputies
[00:22:31] work in electoral districts, meet on a regular
[00:22:35] basis, often with collectives, with people,
[00:22:39] somewhere when monitoring prices, in stores
[00:22:42] they talk to people, so there, at least me, and others,
[00:22:46] let's say, we communicate with each other, and others...
[00:23:50] and back in 2 and a half years. So when you see a car once,
[00:23:54] yes, I saw a car once. Well, I don't even know how many there are,
[00:23:58] three or four mobile ones. All 110 people use them,
[00:24:01] all 110 deputies. As
[00:24:04] for the dacha,
[00:24:07] well, deputies didn't grow up as deputies. They came from
[00:24:11] all over the republic. People worked in different positions,
[00:24:15] they had a different status. I don't know, honestly
[00:24:18] speaking, well, I'm just not interested. Maybe someone
[00:24:21] else from a previous job might
[00:24:24] have a dacha in Drozdakh. I don't know, maybe someone earned enough money to
[00:24:28] build one there. But the fact that deputies are not given dachas in
[00:24:32] Drozdakh is 100% certain.
[00:24:34] What is true, yes, all deputies
[00:24:38] are given the opportunity to get rental
[00:24:41] housing, rental for the period of your
[00:24:45] deputyship. That is, well, rental housing is provided to military personnel,
[00:24:49] doctors, and in many... spheres of activity, that is, on general terms
[00:24:52] for a fee, accordingly, it is provided.
[00:24:55] If a deputy has such a need, then he is
[00:24:58] provided with, after completing the relevant documents,
[00:25:02] really rental housing - yes,
[00:25:05] that exists. And what officer skills turned out to be most useful
[00:25:09] to you in parliamentary work? Discipline,
[00:25:12] the ability to command or obey? So you will answer for me right
[00:25:15] away? I'm sketching an answer, offering
[00:25:19] options. Yes, of course, discipline,
[00:25:23] discipline, well, it can be, discipline is such an all-encompassing
[00:25:26] word, right? Our president often talks about discipline,
[00:25:30] discipline in production, personal discipline,
[00:25:34] some kind of social
[00:25:37] discipline, discipline towards oneself, right? Discipline
[00:25:41] can be broken down further into responsibility,
[00:25:44] the ability to complete tasks. So if
[00:25:48] you take it in one word, it's discipline.
[00:25:50] Of course, I, like any
[00:25:53] officer, worked with people all my life,
[00:25:57] or rather, like most officers, I worked with people. I was
[00:25:59] 17 and a half years old when...
[00:26:32] battalion or in my case, the detachment. That is,
[00:26:36] but your task is to unite all these different people
[00:26:39] with one goal, besides training, right, and so
[00:26:43] that all people with different thoughts, with different
[00:26:46] characters, with different worldviews, you
[00:26:49] must teach them, train them and bring them to
[00:26:53] such a state that they must perform one task, as
[00:26:57] a single whole, as a unit. This is
[00:26:59] probably called communication in civilian
[00:27:02] life, right? Well, look, you have a hierarchy, you
[00:27:06] are the commander. Well, in general, orders are not discussed. But I'm
[00:27:10] interested in how people react when a deputy comes to them with a problem,
[00:27:14] right? We saw the photos just now, or when a question is being discussed, how do they
[00:27:17] treat you as a representative of authority, or differently? Well,
[00:27:21] let's say, I came to communication, right? That is, working
[00:27:24] with people, uh-huh, bringing them to one goal, that means
[00:27:27] communicating with people, and here
[00:27:30] it's basically the same. You
[00:27:32] sit, right? You have a unit, a commander. Here are your
[00:27:36] voters, or vice versa, you come to
[00:27:39] a team. Not everyone voted for you, you understand that perfectly well.
[00:27:42] Someone, that is, someone voted for you, for example.
[00:27:46] It's quite possible that someone voted, not just quite
[00:27:49] possible, but 100% that someone
[00:27:52] in this team voted for another candidate. But
[00:27:56] at the moment you are elected, it doesn't matter, you must take into
[00:27:59] account the opinion of
[00:28:03] those people who voted for you, and those
[00:28:06] who did not vote for you.
[00:28:09] Honesty and openness are probably the most important qualities,
[00:28:12] and not to give people any
[00:28:15] inflated expectations, because sometimes,
[00:28:18] let's say, in life I came across such
[00:28:20] bosses, such commanders, who would say,
[00:28:24] we will do everything, we will solve everything, this is our, this American
[00:28:28] foolish, excuse me, phrase, this is our job, or something
[00:28:31] like that, right? Well, and people believed and went. You must
[00:28:35] clearly tell people, this we will try, this
[00:28:38] we will do, this we will try to solve,
[00:28:41] and I cannot tell you about the result, because it does not
[00:28:45] depend on me. This is for the future, well, and so on. That is,
[00:28:48] people should understand clearly, probably,
[00:28:51] well, in my case, how many I practically
[00:28:55] traveled, well, not practically, I traveled all the large enterprises. Now
[00:28:58] I have reached enterprises, I meet with
[00:29:01] teams, literally small ones, for example, the last one
[00:29:05] was a furniture production, where only, well, only
[00:29:09] 10 people work on furniture assembly. So I already, and so every deputy in
[00:29:12] principle, I didn't have any major difficulties
[00:29:16] in communicating with people. You just have to tell
[00:29:19] people, well, the truth, what you can do, what
[00:29:22] we will do. And whether
[00:29:25] it will play negatively on your image
[00:29:28] or not, you said that we will approach this today even...
[00:30:02] who achieved good
[00:30:05] results in previous activities, and those people in whom
[00:30:09] collectives believed, because as a rule, these are professionals in their
[00:30:12] field. But in
[00:30:15] the parliamentary field, that is, we have a team,
[00:30:18] but you understand, there are solutions to questions. In
[00:30:21] solving questions, each deputy has
[00:30:25] his own opinion, personal, an opinion that he brought
[00:30:29] from his region, from his electoral district.
[00:31:02] It all depends on how
[00:31:06] much
[00:31:08] you are supported by others, or how much, well, in the West, it's called factions. You brought
[00:31:12] an idea and...
[00:31:45] public opinion is always studied by deputies,
[00:31:49] and this symbiosis, it boils, it boils, everyone proves something, we come
[00:31:53] to something, somewhere it works immediately,
[00:31:57] for example, from the first, from the second meeting, and
[00:32:01] somewhere there are very long processes, for example,
[00:32:04] disputes can last 7-8 months and so on. We are told that
[00:32:08] sometimes that we don't see on TV, you just sit there and
[00:32:12] accept. The fact is that...
[00:32:45] preparation is underway, meaning the hostess invited
[00:32:48] guests, she is preparing something, right? She has
[00:32:52] a creative mess in her kitchen, she peeled onions here,
[00:32:55] here, here, here, stained apron and so on and so
[00:32:58] forth, right? That's the work. But then she
[00:33:02] put everything on the table, beautifully set, went,
[00:33:05] dressed up, put on makeup, made herself presentable, and she meets guests not
[00:33:09] in a floury apron, right? Beautifully. That's how
[00:33:12] all this work happens. In committees,
[00:33:16] and people ask such questions, why don't we see you, they want to see you argue,
[00:33:20] throw mud at each other.
[00:33:23] You know better than I do what people need.
[00:33:26] Well, you, I always compare it to a news story about a bridge. What would be more interesting to people,
[00:33:30] a news story: we built a good, beautiful bridge. Built, well, beautiful, they will
[00:33:33] definitely find a bunch of shortcomings in the comments, or the bridge
[00:33:37] collapsed. Well, you're a journalist, you understand what kind of news it is. So
[00:33:41] here, of course, they are interested in how somewhere in Russia or in America, when...
[00:34:15] Ruslan Nikolaevich, a short question and a short answer: do you have
[00:34:19] enough authority as a deputy, as you
[00:34:22] think? My authority was confirmed by my voters when I
[00:34:25] became a deputy. That's it. And I, with a
[00:34:29] clear conscience, when I stand before
[00:34:32] the collective, I can say that,
[00:34:35] friends, yes, I don't hide my gaze, I wasn't appointed
[00:34:39] here, not sent here, this is an elected position.
[00:34:43] 73%, I think. I had
[00:34:47] votes, yes. I always go to the collective with a clear conscience.
[00:34:50] This strengthens me. Well, you have an outlet for the show, we don't forget
[00:34:54] that you are a millionaire on TikTok. Let's see
[00:34:57] how you continue your activities. So
[00:35:18] Well, tell us how it changed, I'm even interested in
[00:35:21] the audience from 2020. Then it was a
[00:35:25] block about one thing, and today it's predominantly about
[00:35:29] everyone serving in the army, right? Well,
[00:35:33] well, the audience, accordingly, also somehow changed, I think, or
[00:35:37] not? Here, probably, it has already gone through
[00:35:40] three transformations, the first after 2020,
[00:35:42] by the way, it was November 20th. Exactly 6 years have passed since this happened.
[00:35:46] channel, congratulations, damn, there's still close to a million,
[00:35:49] well, if we're talking about
[00:35:53] close to a million, but if we count the total number with Instagram and
[00:35:57] other likes, then in total, yes, there are a million subscribers.
[00:36:01] You weren't wrong.
[00:36:04] Well, it's amazing how you keep this audience for a hundred years. The information was
[00:36:07] probably threefold, right? When in 2020, I always said
[00:36:11] that the first thing was to clarify the political situation. The videos were humorous,
[00:36:15] but exactly on that topic, when the need
[00:36:18] disappeared, I filmed
[00:36:20] similar ones. This, by the way, is an old video, even
[00:36:24] before videos of this kind, well, still.
[00:37:09] Belarus, maybe in Ukraine, in Russia, abroad, with our neighbors, that
[00:37:12] is, I don't have a specific goal to do this, well, like
[00:37:16] that's it, I need to do it today, I saw a news item that interested
[00:37:19] me,
[00:37:21] I was walking to work somewhere, an idea came to me, I commented on it, roughly
[00:37:25] speaking, but you have to limit yourself.
[00:38:27] if I didn't have, I had
[00:38:30] a washbasin, like many in
[00:38:33] college who studied there in the nineties,
[00:38:36] until the nineties, there was normal cold water flowing and
[00:38:40] there was no talk of hot water at all,
[00:38:43] if you wanted to wash additionally besides once
[00:38:46] a week in the bath, there was a coiled hose in almost
[00:38:50] every washbasin, you would put it on this
[00:38:53] faucet and spray yourself with the hose, soap yourself with cold water
[00:38:56] and rinse off and... why am I alive, healthy, like millions
[00:39:00] of other men who went through this school. Now
[00:39:04] they have shower cabins, in barracks, washing
[00:39:07] machines. How did we wash? Threw it on the floor, with laundry
[00:39:10] soap rubbed it, took this
[00:39:13] floor polisher, with which they washed the floor, only, well, similar,
[00:39:17] right? With a floor polisher right on the floor, then drained,
[00:39:20] rinsed, hung it up, and sometimes even put it on myself, wet, squeezed
[00:39:23] it well, put on an overcoat over it and dried it that way from my own body heat.
[00:39:27] That's why they said then that the army is a school of life. Now the army,
[00:39:31] well, it shouldn't be like that either. We shouldn't stay in that,
[00:39:35] but I have always been a supporter, hot water should be there, I agree,
[00:39:39] we, well, should improve, washing
[00:39:41] machines should be there, all this should be, but we should not turn
[00:39:44] the army into some sanatorium, there should be no
[00:39:48] excesses in the armed forces, everything there should be strictly
[00:39:52] severe, for now nothing extra, just people
[00:39:55] who are now, there is no quiet hour.
[00:39:58] That's the thing, people
[00:40:02] of my generation and before, what I
[00:40:05] just told you, yes, it's just an example of how we washed and did laundry, and there are
[00:40:09] many such examples, well, now
[00:40:12] it seems that these conditions are greenhouse, that's why they call it
[00:40:16] kindergarten, but we cannot remain in that state, we must
[00:40:19] improve, oh, we must improve, but if
[00:40:22] we live in the forest for years, well, that is, the guys
[00:40:26] must have experience.
[00:40:29] there may not be hot water, therefore, a serviceman,
[00:40:33] whether an officer or a soldier, well, although when they live in field
[00:40:36] conditions, there is no difference, they must be
[00:40:39] ready for this, and how to prepare, if
[00:40:43] you really make it like sanatorium conditions, then when
[00:40:47] you have to plunge into that atmosphere, where
[00:40:51] you will have to overcome the hardships and deprivations of military
[00:40:54] service, then the soldier, the officer will simply not be ready for this. I recently
[00:40:57] saw a video about how in Britain zoomers, these young people,
[00:41:01] when they move out of their parents' house at 19-20 years old,
[00:41:05] they are afraid to use a washing machine, they either
[00:41:08] take it to their parents, or they try to wash as little as possible, and even, what do you think we
[00:41:12] don't have such people? Well, I also think that Britain and
[00:41:16] we have become equal in this zoomerism, yes, so
[00:41:19] here we need to somehow confidently create conditions, but within
[00:41:23] reasonable limits, when he walked all his life in sneakers with Velcro and doesn't know how to...
[00:41:27] tie his shoelaces, well, what will you do? Well, that's why
[00:41:31] they say that now we need to treat, and not teach, I would not
[00:41:34] say that we need to treat,
[00:41:38] the fact is that, well... Turgenev,
[00:41:41] a classic writer, described
[00:41:45] the problem of fathers and children, it
[00:41:48] still persists to this day, it
[00:41:51] was, is, and will be, that's not the point, it's a vicious circle, Ruslan
[00:41:55] Nikolaevich, we used to send men to the army for what, so that they would become
[00:41:59] men, now they go to the army, they don't become men, let's discuss
[00:42:03] this topic in the next part, whether they become men in the army or not,
[00:42:06] and for now, let's take a short break.
[00:42:21] "Say, Don't Be Silent" is on air again, and today our guest is Deputy of the House of Representatives,
[00:42:25] Colonel Ruslan Shkodin. Let's continue, you promised
[00:42:28] to argue that the army is not useless after all. You are
[00:42:32] manipulating, I didn't promise anyone anything here. You
[00:42:35] said you were ready to argue. Excuse me,
[00:42:38] I'm clarifying. Let's argue, do we lose
[00:42:42] a year in the army, two, or do we become
[00:42:45] men there? Well, we weren't talking about that, we
[00:42:48] were talking about the infantilism of young people. Let's finish our
[00:42:52] thought. So, young people are always different and always
[00:42:55] the same. Let's summarize, that is, what, for 10 years young people
[00:42:59] were different among themselves, but in principle not
[00:43:03] like their older generation, that now it's
[00:43:06] the same. It all depends on the society
[00:43:10] they are in, and if young people are like that, it's not their
[00:43:14] fault, it's our fault, you and I are
[00:43:17] to blame for them being like that. That's it, so don't blame young people, you need to
[00:43:20] work with them, and they are the same as 10, 20
[00:43:24] and 30 years ago for that older generation.
[00:43:28] Well, yes, this is the biggest danger, now we are watching
[00:43:32] videos, you are also a millionaire blogger and
[00:43:35] you know that
[00:43:36] somehow it wasn't?
[00:44:10] We need to work with everyone, there is no global problem, these people serve in
[00:44:13] the army, they perform tasks, participate in exercises, training,
[00:44:17] within the country, at the state level, they leave the
[00:44:21] army, grow, take up positions, we don't have a global problem
[00:44:24] with young people, but we must continue to work with them, well, there is
[00:44:28] a global problem with drones, but you somehow
[00:44:30] said, right, that this is today
[00:44:33] a serious danger, well, the question is
[00:44:37] how to motivate a young soldier to
[00:44:40] fight, if there is no countermeasure against the drone, but if you cannot
[00:44:44] dodge it in any way, if it, well, wait, there are always countermeasures,
[00:44:48] there are no hopeless situations, there is no
[00:44:51] 100% effective counteraction
[00:44:55] to drones, and there are various countermeasures, that is, you can
[00:44:59] shoot it down with a pump-action shotgun, you can put up anti-drone
[00:45:02] nets, well, I won't go into that, there are countermeasures, electronic warfare
[00:45:05] works there, that is, there are countermeasures, but
[00:45:09] 100%.
[00:45:40] drone, it was even controlled not with a joystick, but with a computer on
[00:45:43] a table like this, it stood there, it flew up to 3 km maximum,
[00:45:47] maybe even, everyone looked at it like a toy, but they
[00:45:51] mostly saw its use in reconnaissance, that is, a
[00:45:55] unit goes, a drone is sent ahead, it flies and conducts
[00:45:58] reconnaissance there, and now we see it's a
[00:46:01] striking force, and a very serious one, but along with these drones
[00:46:05] countermeasures are also developing, the fact that there is no
[00:46:07] 100% effective, the president spoke about this, no one
[00:46:11] in the world has found it yet, but I think in principle, that in
[00:46:15] any case, a solution to this
[00:46:17] problem will be found, well, but against
[00:46:21] a bullet there is also a bulletproof vest, but a bullet can penetrate a bulletproof vest, if you go
[00:46:25] into battle with such a thought, for example, or prepare a soldier, then it's better not
[00:46:29] to do anything at all, so this is a weapon,
[00:46:32] it's a danger, that is,
[00:46:35] here no one will ever guarantee you that we will go
[00:46:39] so simply.
[00:46:52] To the average person, the difference between territorial defense and people's
[00:46:56] militia is not entirely clear. If to put it simply,
[00:46:59] there are armed forces, other troops and military
[00:47:02] formations, people are conscripted
[00:47:05] by mobilization, that is, he is obliged to go there.
[00:47:09] In territorial defense - this is the second major component, people
[00:47:12] are conscripted by mobilization, they are obliged to
[00:47:15] go there. But a person
[00:47:19] is not obliged to go to the people's militia, he goes there
[00:49:22] if not, just
[00:49:31] give him a specialty, then assign him to a military unit, taking into account all
[00:49:35] characteristics. The same work is carried out in territorial
[00:49:38] defense, and in the people's militia, well, of course,
[00:49:41] preference is given to people
[00:49:44] who, well, served, preference
[00:49:47] is given to hunters, because they know the area, they
[00:49:50] know game wardens, for example. If these are elderly people and are not subject
[00:49:54] to conscription, then, of course, a
[00:49:57] certain set of knowledge
[00:50:00] and skills is always important when performing
[00:50:03] tasks or in the future performing some tasks, yes, therefore, of course,
[00:50:07] well, if a person knows how to handle and shoot a rifle,
[00:50:11] knows his area like the back of his hand, in which he will have to be, then,
[00:50:15] of course, well, if there is a person who does not have these
[00:50:18] skills, then there will be a choice of who to take, then, of course, they will take this one.
[00:51:53] this responsibility lies with that person, because he
[00:51:56] led the country, he
[00:51:59] led, of course, he was let down by those around him, they sang
[00:52:03] praises and advised him, but...
[00:52:35] a little bit of foreign policy remembers Zelensky's election program,
[00:52:38] this handsome, wonderful, amazing guy who
[00:52:42] spoke Russian as if nothing had happened his entire
[00:52:44] life,
[00:52:46] to speak, he defended the rights of Ukrainians, that is, he was
[00:52:50] normal, but in my
[00:52:53] opinion, when he sat in the presidential chair,
[00:52:57] we know the entire policy of Ukraine over the past years, it
[00:53:00] has never been independent for the last
[00:53:03] 10-15, or even 20 years, there were some
[00:53:06] advisers constantly, American, some
[00:53:09] others, and what they advised him, he
[00:53:12] lacked the courage to defend the position of his people,
[00:53:16] and not the interests of those who advised him, so
[00:53:20] maybe he ran for election not to defend the interests of the people, but to
[00:53:23] fill his pockets? Here we need to delve more into the political
[00:53:27] career of Comrade Zelensky, which is extremely short, in fact, yes, because
[00:53:31] he was in show business, in my opinion, he did it well.
[00:54:35] sometimes I hear that, yes, he shed
[00:54:38] a tear there, everything is fine, we can see, and these are
[00:54:41] normal frames, not fakes, confirmed by foreign
[00:54:45] media, where he visits stores, what his wife
[00:54:49] buys, what real estate periodically, I'm sure, this is only just
[00:54:53] appearing with Zelensky, with Zelensky, everything
[00:54:55] is wonderful, but today, in this financial sense,
[00:54:59] while real estate in Europe, yes, we can indeed
[00:55:03] use that, because you also.
[00:55:35] from 2020, I see that
[00:55:38] Macron is saying now, right, his latest statement, we will
[00:55:42] act harshly, we will stop all this, we see how
[00:55:45] the police act towards
[00:55:48] their own population, and at the initial stage, now
[00:55:51] the demographic spectrum of
[00:55:55] protesters has expanded a little, initially it
[00:55:58] was schoolchildren, they were beaten, killed right before their eyes,
[00:56:02] schoolchildren there, well, I...
[00:56:05] honestly, a little bit humanly, we are all people, right? I'm a little bit gleeful, Comrade
[00:56:09] Macron, as they say, don't spit into the well, you might fall
[00:56:13] into it yourself, our Slavic proverb, well,
[00:56:16] now Comrade Macron is putting on
[00:56:19] a brave face despite a bad situation, right? He talks about constitutional
[00:56:23] order, about something else, well, he should have remembered that then
[00:56:26] and expressed his normal opinion
[00:56:29] regarding Belarus, when there were
[00:56:32] protests, he had not expressed information for a long time.
[00:57:08] not from within, but from outside too, you know the theory that the USA, well, has
[00:57:12] intentions, well, this is also another conspiracy theory,
[00:57:15] after all.
[00:57:18] Let's put it this way, now there's a redistribution of the world order, each
[00:57:22] state, or coalition
[00:57:25] of states, naturally, this is a completely normal
[00:57:28] and natural process, they are trying to extract benefits from all this for
[00:57:32] their state or for
[00:57:36] the coalition of states they are in,
[00:57:39] but there is such an opinion, I am not an expert in
[00:57:43] politics, I never considered myself one, but there is
[00:57:46] such an opinion that...
[00:58:17] we should not, well, at least believe in it 100%,
[00:58:20] yes, there are disagreements, but don't we have
[00:58:23] disagreements somewhere in the CSTO? Yes, don't we have
[00:58:27] disagreements in the CIS? Yes, there are exactly the same disagreements
[00:58:31] now between NATO countries, but this does not mean that NATO will
[00:58:34] now collapse, the European Union will now collapse,
[00:58:37] this, well, probably will not happen in our lifetime, I don't
[00:58:41] believe it, all disagreements will be very clearly
[00:58:44] overcome before, if...
[00:58:51] But why can they still afford these squabbles,
[00:58:53] disagreements, these disputes, everything, because they
[00:58:57] know perfectly well, despite the loud political statements about
[00:59:00] the threat from Russia, it is not there in reality, they
[00:59:04] can fool around and have fun among themselves,
[00:59:07] making these statements, if there were a real threat from Russia,
[00:59:11] Belarus, the Union State present for
[00:59:14] Europe, you can be sure, they would become a monolith.
[00:59:17] We would not see this show, that is, this indirectly confirms
[00:59:21] that there is no threat from Belarus,
[00:59:25] of course, and from the Russian Federation, there isn't. They can
[00:59:29] fool around, all these internal
[00:59:32] problems, they are born by themselves, and this
[00:59:34] really comes from people, why, well,
[00:59:38] we all remember the beautiful prosperous Europe, those who traveled,
[00:59:41] traveled, yes, looked, saw,
[00:59:44] now we travel less often, but enough.
[00:59:57] various newsreels, footage, news, and we'll see what Europe has turned into in just a decade, in the last five years, the migration crisis, these migrants just walk around
[01:00:00] trampling on the indigenous people, the indigenous people in their own country have become
[01:00:03] aborigines, the standard of living is significantly
[01:00:06] falling, social
[01:00:10] guarantees for the population, which in Europe were always considered such a
[01:00:13] highlight, right? There
[01:00:16] is the level. For example, the maintenance of streets and everything, before we
[01:00:20] used to say, oh, how beautiful it is there, how amazing it is, what's on the shelves
[01:00:24] in stores, usually for ordinary people, you don't need a lot, right? All
[01:00:27] that has gone into oblivion, all this, of course,
[01:00:31] enrages the people, the people ask why, and
[01:00:34] the only answer is that we will support Ukraine, we must
[01:00:37] help, they stubbornly repeat this day
[01:00:41] after day, we will support perfectly understanding that they will never
[01:00:44] defeat Russia, but... money goes
[01:00:48] there, the standard of living at home falls,
[01:00:52] the people tell them on the streets what to do, but
[01:00:55] for now they don't understand, well, perhaps they will be told even more, then they will understand. And in the next
[01:00:59] part of our program, we will find out what to do when you are scared, and for now, let's
[01:01:02] take a short break.
[01:01:16] Back on air. Don't be silent, our guest today is Colonel and Deputy Ruslan
[01:01:20] Shkodin. Ruslan Nikolaevich, you entered the Riga Higher
[01:01:23] Military-Political School, but the Union collapsed, you ended up in
[01:01:27] Minsk, and how did this moment of personal choice against
[01:01:30] the backdrop of geopolitical catastrophe affect your attitude towards your
[01:01:34] homeland?
[01:01:36] Well, after the Riga school, when it was disbanded,
[01:01:39] I studied at the Military Engineering and Space Institute named after Mozhaisky in
[01:01:43] St. Petersburg, then later.
[01:01:49] I didn't transfer, it would be wrong to say transferred, I was discharged
[01:01:53] and reinstated in the Minsk Higher Military Command
[01:01:56] School.
[01:01:59] The Union collapsed, of course, it was a big country, we were brought up, well, and you're already in such a state,
[01:02:03] well, you're a young man, right, I was 18 years old at that
[01:02:06] time, but people generally started, not
[01:02:10] everyone, but mostly returning to
[01:02:13] their republics, that is, to their countries, it was already clear
[01:02:16] that... what was, would no
[01:02:20] longer be in the near future in the foreseeable future,
[01:02:23] I am Belarusian, I was born in Belarus,
[01:02:26] despite the fact that in Belarus, I had lived for all my life at that time,
[01:02:30] 18 years, in total, well, maybe
[01:02:33] 3 and a half years, because, well, as soon as I was
[01:02:36] born, my father went to serve in the Baltic states, then for a certain
[01:02:40] period we lived here for 3 years and left again, but
[01:02:44] nevertheless, all my relatives are here, my roots were
[01:02:48] here, I transferred here, at that
[01:02:51] time my father was still serving, he also transferred
[01:02:54] here, and well, after thinking about it, and
[01:02:58] it was not such a...
[01:03:30] there are parents, there are ancestors, graves, he was not
[01:03:33] so old, but reasonable, there are ancestors, graves, we must go
[01:03:37] home. Of course, it was everyone's decision, of course, we
[01:03:41] each lived with this for several days, well, and made a decision. That's
[01:03:45] probably it, even though he's not much older,
[01:03:48] right, but such a friendly advice, probably, gave rise to
[01:03:52] this thought that yes, the country
[01:03:56] will now be small, but it will be
[01:03:59] ours. Our beloved Belarus, and all three
[01:04:02] of us, in the end, with various upheavals, but we
[01:04:06] ended up in this Minsk command school, including
[01:04:10] me, so perhaps these words of my
[01:04:13] senior comrade somehow instilled in me
[01:04:17] that yes, this is our land, we
[01:04:19] will serve on it, but you see how
[01:04:23] many geopolitical twists and turns we have already experienced, I
[01:04:27] mean people of our generation.
[01:05:00] something terrible happened, but due to age, perhaps,
[01:05:03] 18 years old, well, you didn't fully realize the tragedy
[01:05:07] that happened then, and of course, patriotic feelings
[01:05:11] prevailed among everyone then, Ukrainians for Ukraine, Belarusians
[01:05:14] Russians, that is, then some kind of disunity happened, right?
[01:05:18] We didn't stop being friends, we didn't stop communicating, well, somehow
[01:05:21] everyone for their own, everyone for their own became
[01:05:25] more like that, right, because for the Union, well, it's right, when it's easier to hold on to this
[01:05:29] yes, probably. he latched onto that, well, but if there's no Union, what's there to hold on to?
[01:05:33] Yes, there was nothing to hold on to, and you couldn't influence anything, then
[01:05:36] later you realized that a great
[01:05:40] tragedy had indeed happened with age, with what you saw later, how the country developed, in
[01:05:44] what state it was, well, but never
[01:05:47] have Russians, nor Ukrainians, not a single
[01:05:51] people been to me, so to speak,
[01:05:54] leading up to your question, alien,
[01:05:58] because I studied with everyone.