CANALALGERIE — La chaine publique algerienne
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[00:00:01] God bless you in the cemetery, God willing.
[00:00:02] God
[00:00:10] Zahra Zahra
[00:00:13] Zahra
[00:00:16] maximum, and that was where the Zahra Zobia,
[00:00:20] Mom, I'm going to live in may God bless you, let me be with my daughter for a while. You have diabetes together. We don't have any diabetes. Why not? Let's
[00:00:26] corners it was practically can I do with take a minute.
[00:00:33] The undefeated could no longer
[00:00:40] Come to prayer.
[00:00:45] He told me to leave by the river and thrown in
[00:00:55] Here's your allowance. Get out. I told you later.
[00:00:58] I'm
[00:01:04] barres et alors qu'il avait un match le
[00:01:06] Come to are going to start with a connoisseur of
[00:01:15] like a coconut in the ocean.
[00:01:16] Come to success.
[00:01:30] innocent. Where am I?
[00:01:34] by the undefeated team. Where is the honest and trustworthy?
[00:01:36] And Jelfa, where
[00:01:39] yes, in any case, he has the are we coming from? Our desires lead you.
[00:01:42] And
[00:01:45] I'm here! I'm here! No, no, no! Don't I'm in Rouin. Where is the innocent? The honest and trustworthy.
[00:01:58] Who are we? We are the ones who are not Follow him, follow him more to desertification, as if we are in
[00:02:14] I want to win, that's all.
[00:02:24] did the Institute of Technology of the door. Turn around
[00:02:25] Zahra is. I'll show you. Come here in Yes, and so I can see my children. No, no, I'm innocent.
[00:02:26] Crocodiles complain of Where am I?
[00:02:28] Home invasion. You left them outside. Open Where am I? And I'm innocent. Where
[00:02:32] is the honest and trustworthy? And Jelfik.
[00:02:35] abroad, We came to you. Our desires.
[00:02:44] and the shame return from very elderly, didn't leave the Jelfik. Oh, they had weddings. They didn't invite. Oh, they had weddings.
[00:02:47] They didn't invite. Oh, they had weddings.
[00:02:53] uh, that was grafted with the They didn't invite.
[00:02:59] to leave me. Oh, he's eating
[00:03:08] So, the Free Ball team doesn't it weighed 400 grams at the end of
[00:03:11] Larry, the best coach in
[00:03:13] the world. The best coach in
[00:03:25] and they were talking about me. Roger is
[00:03:31] in the field, a field
[00:03:37] were a member of
[00:03:45] What did she do? She went to her house.
[00:03:45] Joey at
[00:03:48] ou la dénuit entière et puis le
[00:03:52] true that it's the city of arts and Your heart is as hard
[00:03:56] from street to street, anymore,
[00:04:02] say, about the other side of
[00:04:06] team have been challenged your jerseys from Relax, it's better for you. What's wrong?
[00:04:11] we are living today in the era of Your son is on Hold yourself. I'm talking
[00:04:14] not to mention, of course, to you.
[00:04:19] By God, I'll drive her
[00:04:24] hop over rocks and dance on
[00:04:24] Indeed, prayer was enjoined on If you had run away with us in crazy. the stairs earlier. If she doesn't drive us crazy first, my son.
[00:04:28] is here. No one
[00:04:38] four-eyes, you must not
[00:04:48] lawsuits. He drowned in
[00:04:58] there sipping all there My mother bothered us.
[00:05:01] We must make sure that there is
[00:05:08] You've become one of us. You're crush. That's all there the Bulldozer and his undefeated
[00:05:15] Oh God, when will all this be over? When, oh God, when?
[00:05:33] Her comments.
[00:05:33] This is how you learn to leave me alone.
[00:05:43] Murad,
[00:06:53] Murad,
[00:06:55] Murad.
[00:06:58] You leave or I come to get you out. What do you want? You'll come or I'll
[00:07:01] come to you.
[00:07:08] What's wrong? Why are you being like this? Why
[00:07:12] are you going to bother her door in the morning? The refrigerator, God told
[00:07:15] him, "God curse the liars." By God, no. But
[00:07:19] look, by God, if you do anything again, I'll throw you in the center of "ta'bir"
[00:07:22] and work. I'll add
[00:07:26] more. Sleep. You release them, you oppressor,
[00:07:30] oppressor,
[00:07:31] oppressor.
[00:07:35] Aren't you ashamed? No decency, no religion, no shame.
[00:07:38] If you don't like it, then this is fine.
[00:08:43] I'll deal with that later. Yes, that.
[00:08:45] Deal with it like you dealt with the other
[00:08:48] two. Oh, their shame. What do I do with them?
[00:08:52] Kill them?
[00:08:55] They just disgust me. Oh, it's amazing. As soon as I stick my head out,
[00:08:58] I hear, "Oh, you plucked woman! You shameless
[00:09:02] woman! You street woman!"
[00:09:05] I'm tired. I'm fed up. To tell you the truth, you brought me
[00:09:08] here and left me struggling among enemies, Mr. Bayaj.
[00:09:12] This is good. Decote, and then you leave. But
[00:09:15] when?
[00:09:16] When?
[00:09:20] It's not your concern. I'm preparing it calmly.
[00:09:23] You also shouldn't show them that you're getting annoyed, because then
[00:09:26] they'll criticize
[00:09:28] you more. Let them talk.
[00:09:31] I also heard something on
[00:09:34] Oh,
[00:09:41] what is this oppression? If
[00:09:44] you're a woman, send your husband to talk
[00:09:48] to me. Did you
[00:09:50] hear? The apartment.
[00:10:05] Oh,
[00:10:05] Haddas.
[00:10:41] What else is there? When I leave the kitchen and they enter, you even want to
[00:10:44] blow it up.
[00:10:48] This is a new policy, madam.
[00:10:52] New or old, don't get mad
[00:10:55] at it.
[00:10:58] This "everyone for themselves" doesn't work for me, understand?
[00:11:02] Or are you afraid I'll close the refrigerator door on your precious
[00:11:06] fingers? Stay in your house.
[00:11:09] As you wish. I thought about your good and my good.
[00:11:12] If
[00:11:15] you thought about good, we wouldn't have reached this state.
[00:11:19] That's enough now. It's
[00:11:21] not over.
[00:11:24] You're the one who divided the house. You started with the kitchen,
[00:11:27] and tomorrow,
[00:11:29] with something else, and the day after tomorrow, I don't know where you started,
[00:11:33] with the man.
[00:11:38] If you were a good family girl, you wouldn't accept a marriage like
[00:11:41] this. Who told you that I accepted it?
[00:11:45] I'm waiting for you to understand yourself. I'll understand
[00:11:49] myself. I'll leave my house.
[00:11:52] Oh, listen. I told that expert that I won't leave my house until
[00:11:55] I die patient. You'll get it.
[00:11:59] If you knew patience, you would wait
[00:12:02] for the right man. You're still young.
[00:12:06] He's
[00:12:09] the one who matched
[00:12:10] me.
[00:12:14] He has a wife and two children.
[00:12:18] Fate is fate.
[00:12:20] They tempted me.
[00:12:24] Oh, leave us
[00:12:25] now.
[00:12:29] Here, the cruel one dies. I told you to hide
[00:12:31] your face.
[00:12:34] You got married in a hotel. Why are you opening
[00:12:36] your mouth?
[00:12:40] Hotel, you four- star.
[00:12:42] Die, you stole men, greedy,
[00:12:46] plucked woman. If you dare
[00:12:49] say another word like that, I'll deform your face. You'll see.
[00:12:52] Oh, you learned.
[00:12:57] Plucked woman.
[00:13:00] Oh, you see, my sister, this woman, my
[00:13:03] sister, be ashamed. Be ashamed.
[00:13:06] Be ashamed.
[00:13:12] They want to drive me crazy.
[00:13:14] They want to drive me crazy. They want
[00:13:16] to kill me, carpenter, carpenter.
[00:13:20] The whole neighborhood heard me,
[00:13:47] Abu
[00:13:49] Avesa, my
[00:13:52] brother. I'm telling
[00:14:28] you, I'm scared. I got shivers.
[00:14:32] I'm terrified. You know, if you don't do anything,
[00:14:34] by God, I'll bring my mom here to stay with me
[00:14:38] to keep me company. No one here. Did you hear? You won.
[00:14:41] You'll bring your mom here, and you'll bring her mom, and you'll do it
[00:14:45] here. So what? How will it end?
[00:14:48] Now
[00:14:50] look,
[00:14:52] in any case, be a little more patient. By God, I won't tell you to be patient. It'll be over,
[00:14:56] God willing. As for these dark people,
[00:15:00] I'll relieve you of them
[00:15:02] now.
[00:15:10] Why this malice? What did this poor
[00:15:12] creature do to you? By God, when you saw she was a stranger, you ganged up
[00:15:16] on her. Look, by God,
[00:15:19] if you do anything again, I'll massacre
[00:15:22] all of you. Oh,
[00:15:31] you know, Mom, as you told me, I did
[00:15:34] it for her in every turn. Thank God.
[00:15:37] You understood. And if he doesn't want to understand, or
[00:15:41] he throws a tantrum, or he says something, or I get involved
[00:15:44] like that, or in ten years, she'll still
[00:15:48] be here. Make her like a mouse. Wherever you turn your head
[00:15:52] towards her, she runs away. Where
[00:15:54] is she? She went down to the neighbors, crying.
[00:15:58] I hit her on the ground. By God, I felt sorry for her.
[00:16:01] Open your eyes. If she feels sorry for you, she'll start
[00:16:05] acting pitiful, and when you're not paying attention, she'll hit
[00:16:09] you. There's no mercy in this world, whether it's
[00:16:12] you or her. Did you hear? No, no, I just
[00:16:15] said don't say
[00:16:18] that. By your dear head, whoever makes fun of this world will be swept away
[00:16:23] the streets. You saw, if you were alone here and
[00:16:26] told me, you almost wouldn't believe
[00:16:30] it. Don't let go
[00:16:33] every minute. She hit me, she cursed me, she insulted me.
[00:16:38] And if you see her, hate her. Tell him, "Now I'm going to my mom's
[00:16:41] house." But if he says goodbye
[00:16:45] to me, that's the only thing that won't happen. Later, later.
[00:16:48] If you bring him a child.
[00:17:00] You hit me many times in front of her.
[00:17:02] And that's the only thing I couldn't bear. What's wrong with
[00:17:06] him hitting me? But in front of that bitch, he hits me. She laughs.
[00:17:10] She schemes.
[00:17:16] Hello.
[00:17:21] Oh,
[00:17:21] right.
[00:17:25] The vertebral
[00:17:27] column appeared. Are
[00:17:30] you listening?
[00:17:34] How long did you stay with your uncles?
[00:17:39] Three months.
[00:17:50] Oh, my Lord, my Lord.
[00:17:53] He also added his worries. He's not going to
[00:17:55] school.
[00:17:59] He went once and that's it.
[00:18:02] The school is very far.
[00:18:05] Be quiet, please. Oh, my Lord,
[00:18:09] my Lord, my Lord. What have I done,
[00:18:11] my Lord? By God, when he comes, I'll talk
[00:18:15] to him. Don't tell him anything. This poor
[00:18:18] boy can't follow the school as he should. And this
[00:18:21] is why. She's
[00:18:24] poor and not well. Study,
[00:18:28] my daughter, study. Don't be an ignorant
[00:18:31] person. When someone makes fun of me like this,
[00:18:35] when you grow up, the man will be brought out by you,
[00:18:39] understand? That's how you open her eyes. I'll open both
[00:18:43] her eyes. Let's leave these
[00:18:45] stories, my beautiful daughter. For two
[00:18:49] months, he hasn't given you a single franc.
[00:18:53] I know, but what can I do? The world is narrow,
[00:18:57] my daughter. If we add that money,
[00:18:59] that's it. And why do you want me to go and say, "Give me
[00:19:02] money"? That's not how you pay. God is
[00:19:06] witness.
[00:19:11] I understand, Dad, but where do you want me to go, my daughter? Don't give up on your house and your
[00:19:15] children's house. You want me to become
[00:19:18] silent.
[00:19:20] As you wish, my daughter. We didn't tell you to go.
[00:19:46] Everything passes your dad, the sheikh.
[00:19:50] You won't find anything but
[00:19:53] the education you received. And the day will come when you'll remember
[00:19:57] my words. Where are we going, Dad? Let's go and get
[00:20:00] our
[00:20:01] right.
[00:20:07] God.
[00:20:34] No, no, I won't go. Don't leave me alone. We'll wait for you here.
[00:20:52] Peace be upon you. And upon you be peace. Hello, Mr.
[00:20:55] Ahmed. Who saw you? Are you well? A little, let's say
[00:20:59] well. Thank God, sir.
[00:21:03] You're busy. Yes, I keep moving. You know,
[00:21:06] goods come every month, and it's necessary in this
[00:21:09] world.
[00:21:11] Yes, it's necessary.
[00:21:15] Excuse me, Uncle Ahmed. I don't have time. I'm
[00:21:18] checking the
[00:21:23] I understand, but we need to talk
[00:21:26] a little. Talk, my brother. Talk about
[00:21:28] yourself.
[00:21:32] He's fine. Yes,
[00:21:35] fine.
[00:21:38] Muhammad.
[00:21:41] Give me the perfume bottle, Mr. Jaafar. Enough, enough, Uncle
[00:21:43] Boujemaa.
[00:22:20] Here, by God, frankly, let's be
[00:22:22] together. I'll tell you something. The oppressor among us, may God give him
[00:22:26] a calamity in these blessed days.
[00:22:29] These children need to eat, they need
[00:22:31] to wear clothes. The house is full of their clothes, sir. If you want
[00:22:35] the gathering, I'll bring it all to you. I'll bring it all to you.
[00:22:58] Are they all children or what? Yes.
[00:23:02] They didn't want to come with me. They didn't want to come with me. Oh,
[00:23:05] you turned them against me now. No, no, sir. How is this
[00:23:08] no? It's money.
[00:23:12] you hide them, and then you come
[00:23:14] to hide them. By God, don't exaggerate. God bless
[00:23:18] your parents, did you hear? If you had brought them with you here, I would have given you
[00:23:22] an allowance, my son. That's it. Don't
[00:23:25] talk to me, and I won't talk to you. Ahmed, your eyes are on the allowance.
[00:23:28] Go and deposit a complaint at Jij. Muhammad,
[00:23:31] I'm leaving. I'm not coming. Open at 12
[00:23:34] or deal with it yourself, or deal with it quickly in the morning,
[00:23:38] for good. I
[00:23:38] left it for you.
[00:23:43] Shame on the parents, you son
[00:23:44] of a bitch.
[00:23:47] Step on the pig.
[00:24:02] He did it to us, and we weren't aware.
[00:24:05] He left my hands like this, like a student.
[00:24:09] I said it and repeated it. I said it and repeated it. And that's it.
[00:24:13] That's it.
[00:24:14] Yes, that's it.
[00:24:17] Murad, no, no, I won't go to him.
[00:24:21] Oh, there's only me left, and his calculation. Go now. No, no,
[00:24:25] don't go. Look for a job after
[00:24:28] we went there. You want
[00:24:31] to work. What do you know how to do? If you don't find
[00:24:34] a job, I'll steal. Go back
[00:24:37] to school.
[00:24:41] If he did it on purpose, he wants to say that he won't look for you
[00:24:45] you children.
[00:24:50] So go with his calculation and take that money from him.
[00:24:52] No, no, there's only one thing you can do with this
[00:24:56] dog. Go back
[00:24:58] to your house. You burdened
[00:25:01] me. You didn't burden us with anything,
[00:25:05] my daughter. That dog told me about the judge. He has
[00:25:09] a trick in his head. Go back to your house. Don't move. Let
[00:25:13] what happens, happen.
[00:25:16] We're not chasing you away, my daughter. We're talking to you for your own good.
[00:25:50] I'm Bahiyah. Who is
[00:25:51] Bahiyah?
[00:25:54] Boujemaa's wife. Open the door. And who
[00:25:57] are you? Her brother. Her brothers.
[00:26:01] What's wrong with you? The children are waiting at the door. Open,
[00:26:04] God bless you. I'm alone. I won't
[00:26:07] open. Listen, she's
[00:26:09] inside. I don't care about anyone.
[00:26:12] I'm alone. I won't open. And that's it. When
[00:26:16] will Boujemaa come in? When? I don't
[00:26:18] know. Listen, will these children stay outside or
[00:26:22] what? Go away. Leave me alone. What
[00:26:26] this hardship now? This is all you. Why did you
[00:26:30] leave the house? Talk to him, that's better. Look, I told you, break
[00:26:33] the door. Oh, the words don't work with her.
[00:26:37] Or I'll break
[00:26:38] it for you.
[00:26:43] Wait for the other one. Now, maybe
[00:26:47] he's coming in.
[00:26:56] This one.
[00:28:03] Open the door. Yes, I'll open the door for them. Why am I the one who bothered
[00:28:06] them? Yes, we know he'll open the door. Oh,
[00:28:10] where do you take shelter? Oh,
[00:28:13] open the door. Listen, the children are tired. The children
[00:28:16] are tired. You know how to talk, and earlier, where were the children
[00:28:19] sleeping? It's none of your business. Open
[00:28:23] the door that will open for you. This is from you. This is
[00:28:27] called home invasion.
[00:28:30] the door. You're looking for
[00:29:32] a devil.
[00:29:32] He'll come back
[00:29:36] to me now. He'll go and follow your uncles. He's fed up
[00:29:39] with you. Oh, that day when I saw you, you ran away. Oh,
[00:29:43] and now you're coming back to me like a dog. And what brought you to
[00:29:46] me now? Did hunger bring you
[00:29:49] or did they bring you up?
[00:29:54] You're garbage, both you and your uncles. Don't you dare raise your hand at me
[00:29:58] again. Don't touch me anymore. Enough, Murad, enough.
[00:30:02] Enough, enough, my dear. Enough, enough.
[00:30:23] Not a drop of milk is left.
[00:30:27] My daughter is hungry.
[00:30:28] A little.
[00:31:03] If you need anything, ask
[00:31:05] Zahra.
[00:31:13] Murad. Murad. Murad.
[00:31:17] Get up. Get up.
[00:31:21] Get up. Go to your uncle Dahman and tell him to give us
[00:31:24] a packet of coffee and a kilo of sugar and a liter
[00:31:27] of milk and a packet of biscuits.
[00:31:29] I'll tell him. Tell him what you want, Mom.
[00:31:33] It's late. Go, my daughter.
[00:31:36] Prepare
[00:31:59] the plates, children. The cutlets are ready.
[00:32:13] How much?
[00:32:15] Please.
[00:32:20] Jaafar.
[00:32:23] Hello, my son. Didn't I tell you yesterday that your dad would pass by? Why
[00:32:27] didn't he come? It's okay. When he pays you, I'll come back. No, no, he has time.
[00:32:31] What can I serve you? Give me four kilos of
[00:32:34] that.
[00:32:39] And when
[00:32:43] your dad hears, what will he say? What will he say? That he starved
[00:32:47] us. If they cross me in this neighborhood, I'll move to another
[00:32:51] neighborhood. Listen, maybe we won't get
[00:32:54] anywhere. Mom, there's no way it can be worse than this.
[00:33:13] How is it that one of them understands?
[00:33:16] Don't get confused.
[00:33:22] May God solve it peacefully. Eat, eat, for your father's sake.
[00:33:44] Where is that one?
[00:34:10] Where is the pig? The pig wants
[00:34:14] cutlets, and I'm the one who got a piece of meat. I'm
[00:34:17] eating it. He's talking today. You're his
[00:34:20] weakness. Today, if you're looking for Murad, he's not here. He's not
[00:34:24] here. Oh, you knew. Oh, you got a loaf of bread. You keep
[00:34:28] grilling meat. What's
[00:34:31] wrong with you, man? What's wrong? Oh, you aimed at my head.
[00:34:44] Oh, yes, by God, you won.
[00:34:46] Sir.
[00:34:48] Sir. What are the yogurt
[00:34:50] and egg whites? The Camembert
[00:34:54] cutlets.
[00:34:57] The anchovies.
[00:34:59] The lemonade. You're having a picnic here.
[00:35:02] And that
[00:35:05] miserable life in every piece. What is it?
[00:35:09] I don't know.
[00:35:12] How? May God make your face yellow, God willing. Bad
[00:35:15] luck. You want to leave me.
[00:35:17] Yes.
[00:35:20] You left us with no money, no two bags of milk.
[00:35:24] I couldn't buy a bag of milk. Oh, you credit
[00:35:27] me, and I'm being humiliated.
[00:35:29] Shame.
[00:35:32] Shame. I'll catch you, and that bank
[00:35:35] account, God knows what I'll do with it. I'll catch him. My son is safe.
[00:35:38] And if these neighbors run out, he'll go to another
[00:35:42] neighborhood. What did you credit in
[00:37:34] Let him
[00:37:34] eat.
[00:37:41] You know, if he leaves you here,
[00:37:43] he'll kill me.
[00:37:49] What are you doing all
[00:37:50] day?
[00:37:54] Nothing, just training. You're
[00:37:57] training? You're the one who was scary
[00:38:00] in school. Oh, this is our
[00:38:03] luck.
[00:38:09] Stop it.
[00:38:13] You know your dad wants to move us, move us to another
[00:38:16] place.
[00:38:22] But in one room. May God not let
[00:38:24] him reach it. I told him not to. One
[00:38:28] room or these
[00:38:29] faces.
[00:38:32] I'm not moving
[00:38:33] from here.
[00:38:37] Just wait a bit, my dear brother.
[00:39:25] Stit! If you had accepted the house that he told you about, we wouldn't
[00:39:29] be in this situation. Accept him. He told you it's for you, not
[00:39:33] for me. He dies
[00:39:36] a killer. Your opinion brings problems upon you, not on Zahra's
[00:39:39] head. Don't worry, I'll protect
[00:39:56] you. I'm telling you, it's a big house and it's fine.
[00:39:59] I don't need
[00:40:02] it. It's okay. Look, leave his calculation here with your things
[00:40:05] and go see the room. If you don't like it, go back
[00:40:08] to your house.
[00:40:10] No, no.
[00:40:13] No, no. So look, by God, you won't see a single franc from
[00:40:16] me.
[00:40:18] Do whatever you want. What's
[00:40:20] wrong? But that dog Murad doesn't deserve to set
[00:40:24] foot in my house. He's fine with
[00:40:28] his uncles. Is he the one who told you that?
[00:40:32] I won't tell you your son. They brought me
[00:40:34] news. The people earlier.
[00:40:37] the street, my brother. Your son,
[00:40:39] and you're the one who brought him to this state.
[00:40:43] It's not all me. Look, your
[00:40:46] life is hanging by a thread with me. You're
[00:40:50] looking for an excuse to hit me. I'll give it to
[00:40:53] you.
[00:41:28] That's right. That's right.
[00:41:31] I won't tell you. I won't tell
[00:41:33] you, my son.
[00:41:38] Why didn't you go home, Dad? I go once in a while.
[00:41:42] Go every day. Every day.
[00:41:44] My mom forgave too much. We burdened
[00:41:47] them.
[00:41:51] She came. She's in confinement. She had
[00:41:53] a baby.
[00:41:57] the house that Dad told us about.
[00:41:59] No.
[00:42:07] We wish you a girl.
[00:42:10] By God, it's amazing. It's something twisted, crooked.
[00:42:13] But God didn't
[00:42:15] listen to her. Congratulations
[00:42:18] to you.
[00:42:20] Did you hear her? She said, "Congratulations
[00:42:23] to you." May God keep her away
[00:42:26] from you. No, no, tell me the truth. You wished
[00:42:29] I would miscarry or remain
[00:42:31] barren.
[00:42:34] His name is Ammar. The youth.
[00:42:37] Good for him. May God protect him.
[00:42:40] Amen. Leave
[00:42:41] me alone.
[00:42:48] You want to see him? Just to confirm
[00:42:52] that God doesn't like envious people and doesn't answer evil
[00:42:55] prayers. Leave me alone. God's law
[00:42:59] is on your head. What's wrong with her yelling like this? What's
[00:43:03] wrong? What do you want? Be quiet, you old woman. Let Mom
[00:43:07] rest. Murad came in.
[00:43:27] Do it. Let me manage
[00:43:30] myself. Don't tell your husband or anyone
[00:43:34] else, understand?
[00:43:42] On three, I'll change your clothes and my son.
[00:43:46] This is all I have. I don't need
[00:43:57] it. He robbed me. He robbed me, my sister,
[00:44:00] my sister, my sister. He robbed me. Your son robbed
[00:44:03] you. Hold him,
[00:44:06] hold him. Hold him, hold him.
[00:44:41] Murad. Even Murad was here.
[00:44:44] Murad.
[00:44:48] Murad.
[00:44:50] Murad.
[00:44:53] Murad.
[00:45:00] Murad.
[00:45:03] Murad.
[00:45:09] Murad.
[00:45:53] The story. The prison.
[00:45:57] On me. I'll find him waiting for you.
[00:45:59] He'll wait for you.
[00:46:05] Look.
[00:46:09] Here.
[00:46:54] It wasn't me who stole it.
[00:46:57] I, I didn't see you, my son. He built it on
[00:47:01] our heads. You're not aware. If
[00:47:03] I had stolen it, I would have told you that they deserve more
[00:47:07] than this. That's it. It's over.
[00:47:10] No, no, it's not over. She doesn't understand
[00:47:13] anything. Whoever comes makes fun of her
[00:47:15] and believes him. Yes, my son,
[00:47:18] yes. They fooled her all
[00:47:22] night long. You're looking for me in the streets.
[00:47:25] Enough, enough. Don't yell at us. Now
[00:47:28] I'll go and talk to him and follow him until they go. If he wants to calm down,
[00:47:32] my son. I'll go see him. No, no,
[00:47:35] don't go. You want him to humiliate me like last time?
[00:47:39] Murad, Murad.
[00:48:06] It wasn't me who stole the mother's jewelry. Go away. Leave me alone, my grandfather.
[00:48:09] Go away. No, we must talk. I told you to let me work. I didn't steal
[00:48:13] anything. You understand what's going on? You're coming to turn
[00:48:17] the case. I told you it wasn't me who stole. Aren't
[00:48:20] you ashamed to go and take it?
[00:48:26] To bring us outside and put us in the doghouse. I told you to go. I'll call the police. They'll come
[00:48:30] and take you away. Did you hear? You have two
[00:48:33] choices: either return the people's jewelry, or they'll come
[00:48:37] and take you away. Let me warn you again. Go and seek refuge.
[00:48:40] Tell her, tell her, "Enough." By God, you won't see another franc from me.
[00:48:44] Oh, that old woman and her daughter lied
[00:48:48] to you. She took you for the sake of the shop. The whole neighborhood
[00:48:51] is laughing at you. Come on, shut up.
[00:48:55] No, no, you don't want to understand. I'll make you understand. That Zahra
[00:48:58] Zobia, she took you for the sake of your money, you
[00:49:01] old man. What
[00:49:04] is it?
[00:49:08] You insult? Who taught you to talk? Who taught you to accuse
[00:49:10] me? I'll kill him.
[00:49:14] He's an old man and doesn't know what
[00:49:18] the cardboard. By God, I'll show you with the cardboard.
[00:49:20] I'll show you. You shouldn't say things like
[00:49:24] this. He did a lot to us. There are
[00:49:28] things that shouldn't be said. In
[00:49:30] any case, when you grow up, you'll understand. Did you understand, my grandfather?
[00:49:34] I understood. Dress well. Be
[00:49:37] kind. Do whatever you want. All people, my son.
[00:49:41] Life is very difficult, very
[00:49:45] difficult. I know.
[00:49:45] I know.
[00:49:55] Today, again, I couldn't. I'm very
[00:49:57] ashamed when I ask or I don't know. My brother, you told
[00:50:00] me it's easy.
[00:50:02] Mahajeb,
[00:50:05] mahajeb, hot mahajeb, spicy.
[00:50:08] Your sister knows better than you.
[00:50:12] I know how to do it,
[00:50:15] but when I stand in front of people, my words
[00:50:18] get lost, and I blush. How?
[00:51:01] By God, it's delicious,
[00:51:01] my daughter.
[00:51:10] Delicious.
[00:52:01] You're the one who's ashamed. You're the one who's in prison. Yes.
[00:52:45] Oh, my son.
[00:52:48] What are those? Mahajeb.
[00:52:51] Come on.
[00:52:58] You'll see her. Mahajeb. Give us
[00:53:01] one.
[00:53:38] Oh, Hamid. The eggs with hot
[00:53:42] hands.
[00:53:44] Go, my son, they're dying of hunger.
[00:53:57] Oh, God brought you, my son. Put down, put down that
[00:54:01] basket. Put down how much you want.
[00:54:03] Listen. We drank now. We want
[00:54:06] to eat. Put down the basket, and then
[00:54:10] we'll settle up. Put it down. Why are we snatchers or
[00:54:14] thieves? We're not.
[00:54:31] Or go. There's nothing.
[00:54:35] Nothing.
[00:54:35] I heard.
[00:54:42] Listen, the poor wife ran away from him
[00:54:45] with the children. And when he wants to see them,
[00:54:48] she hides them. Oh,
[00:55:02] how much? Two. Three.
[00:55:06] Four.
[00:55:08] Five. Seven. So
[00:55:11] 3500. 3500.
[00:56:08] Let go of me. Oh, from
[00:56:11] now on.
[00:56:16] You don't have anything. But
[00:56:18] I can't
[00:56:20] understand you.
[00:56:26] the beginning, he would have committed a crime against us now.
[00:56:30] Just crying. Add your worries.
[00:56:33] Add more. And why not?
[00:56:36] One day I'll see myself. You only complain and cry. That's
[00:56:40] all. Good. Good. Add more, add more.
[00:56:43] I'll add more. Oh, in this world, whoever doesn't fight for
[00:56:47] his right is eaten by a dog. Poor thing, she divorced
[00:56:50] her. What can she do? She drowned in
[00:56:53] alcohol. What do you want? Don't
[00:56:55] understand him.
[00:57:08] You won two
[00:57:08] coins.
[00:57:58] The landlord Murad.
[00:58:03] the room.
[00:58:04] How?
[00:58:09] Your dad will talk to her for only three
[00:58:11] months. Oh God, oh God.
[00:58:14] A person can't find peace here.
[00:58:17] Why did God create all these dogs?
[00:58:20] And why?
[00:58:26] Why did you go and see him?
[00:58:30] What do you want us to do, Murad? I'm earning
[00:58:34] a little money. Oh, long live that
[00:58:37] money. Oh, what did he
[00:58:41] tell you? He encouraged you, maybe,
[00:58:43] Murad.
[00:58:46] He's the one who told me. If
[00:58:50] he returns to his state, be careful. Be careful.
[00:58:54] How can you not believe me? I believed
[00:58:57] you, Murad. It's not true. I believed
[00:59:00] her. No, no, my dear, by God, my darling.
[00:59:03] I believed you. He goes to accuse you, and I make
[00:59:07] you a thief. He's the one who told me. It's not
[00:59:10] me.
[00:59:20] You'll never understand
[00:59:21] me. Never.
[00:59:28] I understand. I understand. Yes, I understood.
[01:00:55] And you won't go back
[01:00:57] to your job.
[01:01:01] I'll prepare the mahajeb for you. The money is gone.
[01:01:04] The jewelry that you stole. As long as
[01:01:08] you're a dog,
[01:01:13] from cafe to cafe, to earn a
[01:01:17] franc. You were waiting for me to come back with the money
[01:01:21] from the jewelry. By God, you deserve more than
[01:01:24] this.
[01:01:32] Oh, you thug, you're still going to come back to your face.
[01:01:36] Just hold him, hold him for me. I have something
[01:01:40] to tell you. Come closer.
[01:01:43] Come closer. Bring her with the dog. Come closer. Talk.
[01:01:48] I wanted to tell you about the jewelry. How? Where is the jewelry?
[01:01:52] I don't want to talk in front of him. Why
[01:01:55] are you ashamed? Come, come.
[01:01:59] Come, come, come. By God, don't be afraid. By God, don't
[01:02:01] do anything. Where is it?
[01:02:04] Speak, Mom. She took it from me. Why
[01:02:08] didn't you bring it, my son? Why? I was afraid you wouldn't take her away, don't give us
[01:02:11] money. Tell her to bring her, my son. She didn't want to
[01:02:15] come here again.
[01:02:55] That's how you won, all of you, big
[01:02:58] and small. It was good
[01:03:00] that people took me.
[01:03:03] It's not about you or your
[01:03:06] mother. They see what I did
[01:03:09] and say,
[01:03:12] "This is the son who stoned his father." After a day, they see him
[01:03:15] paralyzed.
[01:03:18] He did a lot to us, my son.
[01:03:21] There are a thousand like
[01:03:24] him.
[01:03:29] He is
[01:04:00] a woman. Wait outside.
[01:04:24] I came to see him for his son. Maybe
[01:04:26] he'll forgive him.
[01:04:28] You ruined my life. You're here to save
[01:04:31] yourself.
[01:04:36] Save his son. I have nothing left to save.
[01:04:39] What did you
[01:04:42] want him to do to me?
[01:04:47] The commissioner is the one who
[01:04:48] advised me. He can't
[01:04:51] move. He can't say
[01:04:54] a word.
[01:05:00] They're still like that.
[01:05:02] Maybe
[01:05:04] he'll stay like this his whole
[01:05:06] life.
[01:05:11] You ruined
[01:05:12] my life.
[01:05:18] And I, is there anything
[01:05:19] left for me?
[01:05:23] Even the doctors don't know if it's enough.
[01:05:27] A day
[01:05:49] is fine. He's walking.
[01:05:52] He started a little,
[01:05:53] thank God.
[01:05:58] He endured us.
[01:06:02] If I had known, I wouldn't
[01:06:04] have accepted this life or this
[01:06:06] marriage.
[01:06:10] And I, what did I choose? Everything fell on
[01:06:12] my head.
[01:06:22] Don't delay with her. It's
[01:06:25] done.
[01:07:37] I'll bring you
[01:07:38] Haseebah.
[01:07:42] Huh?
[01:07:44] He told
[01:07:47] you, "Yes, Haseebah, your daughter."
[01:07:51] Did you understand what I told him?
[01:07:52] Understand.
[01:07:59] Are you well here in the hospital? Are you a little better? Are you
[01:08:02] eating well? Are you sleeping well? Thank
[01:08:04] God.
[01:08:08] Son, when you want to answer us
[01:08:11] about something, just give us a sign with your eyes.
[01:08:15] Right? Do it.
[01:08:19] Thank you.
[01:11:14] Friends of the evening, good evening, nice to see
[01:11:17] you again, so summer in music, it's your
[01:11:20] appointment during the summer season, we
[01:11:23] are yes, we have moved to
[01:11:26] the west of the capital, my heart is burning,
[01:11:30] after you, you are not close, we cry
[01:11:33] for you, I heard your name, my
[01:11:37] beloved, destiny threw me into
[01:11:40] strange cold arms. Your love always enchanted
[01:11:44] me, the gift of
[01:11:46] darkness, crying is useless,
[01:11:49] regret
[01:11:53] is enough, my words said
[01:11:55] the words,
[01:11:57] when I was with you, I was always oppressed, my life
[01:12:01] used to go backwards, it passed,
[01:12:04] darkness, I don't regret your absence,
[01:12:07] if the chest
[01:12:09] had not been revealed, I would have been able to return.
[01:13:25] Hello to the friends who are watching us, yes, hello, hello, hello,
[01:13:28] hello, the count is good, beautiful stories, good
[01:13:32] times, you who watch us with
[01:13:36] your children, with your parents or your
[01:13:39] grandparents, the show is dedicated to the whole family,
[01:13:41] big and small, and then you know, I always have
[01:13:45] guests, guests,
[01:13:48] they talk, they discuss, they are
[01:13:52] mature for their age. And you will
[01:13:56] see that the story will really interest them. We
[01:14:01] the show, with a loyal, a
[01:14:04] loyal girl who comes often and I like to receive her because she
[01:14:08] talks with me, she discusses, I'm talking about you, Sirine.
[01:14:11] How old are you, Sirine?
[01:14:15] 7,7. important
[01:14:19] She has already been on this show, Sirine. She
[01:14:22] knows it very well. In fact, she even brought
[01:14:26] me a surprise. And next to Sirine, we have another young
[01:14:30] girl with a
[01:14:31] certificate.
[01:14:35] How are you? What's your name?
[01:14:39] Lina. And it's pretty, Lina. Well, it's weird because
[01:14:42] the heroine of today's story is named
[01:14:46] Lina. I'm going to tell Lina's story. How are you?
[01:14:50] And how old are you? I'm 9 years old. 9 years old. He doesn't have
[01:14:53] the half. No, no, no. This 9 years old. And then next to her, a
[01:14:57] beautiful young girl, very classy. Hello, hello.
[01:15:00] How are you? How are you? What's your name? My name is Omaima.
[01:15:04] Or Oma.
[01:15:07] Oh, that's very, very, very pretty. That's beautiful. How are you? How are you doing?
[01:15:11] And how old are you? I'm 8 and a half. 8 and a half. There you go.
[01:15:15] He always has the half that comes up. Well, I'm going to tell you
[01:15:18] a beautiful, a very, very beautiful story,
[01:15:21] Youssef. You have two first names. Yeah.
[01:16:25] to get to know the boy who is right next to you, who is very
[01:16:28] interesting, you saw him, yes, what's his name, you got to
[01:16:31] know him, his name is Iliane, Iliane,
[01:16:35] hello Iliane, hello, how are you? So where are you
[01:16:38] from? I'm from Ville Plemsen, you're from
[01:16:42] Tlemcen. Oh, it's the city of art and history. Oh, it's the city, it's
[01:16:47] history. How are you? How are you? Oh, we're doing well. What
[01:16:51] year are you in? Uh, 4th year. We're here for 5
[01:16:55] years. And how old are you? So you're 9 years old. Very good. How are you,
[01:16:58] Eliane? Alhamdulillah, great. I'm very, very happy that you're joining
[01:17:02] me on this show. You know, he has a good storyteller named
[01:17:06] Hajor. She tells lots and lots
[01:17:09] of stories, especially everything about the
[01:17:12] heritage of Tlemcen. I salute Hajor, who does great
[01:17:16] work for children.
[01:17:19] Youssef, Sirine, Lina too. So
[01:17:23] you are all welcome, and also for you, a very
[01:17:27] special story for this
[01:17:31] day. So, shall we start?
[01:17:52] a craft industry for those who live there.
[01:19:07] the wood, so listen to me, the wood
[01:19:11] that is right next to behind the village, a large
[01:19:15] forest, and the forest, in the forest there are trees,
[01:19:18] there are trees, and there were many
[01:19:21] trees in this forest, so there were many animals that lived in this forest too,
[01:19:25] there were birds, there were rabbits, there
[01:19:28] was especially the big bad wolf, there was no wolf,
[01:19:31] it was a very, very gentle
[01:19:35] forest, and it was not a tropical forest.
[01:20:09] for example, there you go, so he made a lot of things with that
[01:20:12] wood, only it was all the time,
[01:20:16] it was all the time, every day, every
[01:20:19] day,
[01:20:21] every day, every day, every day, there was a little
[01:20:25] girl whose father also worked in this factory, and her father every
[01:20:29] day, he would wake up very, very early in the morning, he
[01:20:32] would leave, he would cut the wood and he
[01:20:35] would take it to the factory, and inside
[01:20:37] the factory, he made lots and lots of furniture,
[01:20:41] and then one day Lina started to grow up and
[01:20:45] she noticed something, she noticed
[01:20:48] something and she immediately understood, because she is a girl like Thomas, she is very
[01:20:52] intelligent, she is a very, very intelligent girl, she
[01:20:55] understood that
[01:20:58] the forest was starting to become
[01:21:02] smaller, that there were not...
[01:21:05] enough trees for all the
[01:21:09] birds
[01:21:13] and that in
[01:21:13] fact
[01:21:19] these
[01:21:29] indeed
[01:21:35] and all of a sudden one day she discovers. neither under
[01:21:38] the tree and the tree like that
[01:21:42] uprooted and cut and then the poor thing, she
[01:21:45] heard
[01:21:48] a sparrow that was crying. So she
[01:21:52] sat down. Yes, yes, he was
[01:21:56] crying. But why are you crying? Are you
[01:21:58] sad? Yes, I am sad. But why are you
[01:22:02] sad? Look, they cut down my house and I fell. The
[01:22:06] nest fell. The branches no longer hold in this tree. And tomorrow they
[01:22:10] will come and cut it down completely and I will have nowhere to go
[01:22:14] to sleep. Where will I go? And I will
[01:22:17] be cold and I can't, I can't stay like
[01:22:21] that outside in the forest all alone. It's very dangerous
[01:22:24] for me and my parents left to seek shelter elsewhere and
[01:22:28] they still haven't returned.
[01:22:31] But, but why? Why all this drama? Why are you
[01:22:35] here? Why is the tree going to be?
[01:22:38] "Haven't you noticed that this factory always cuts a lot of trees,
[01:22:42] it cuts them all the time, all the time, and you know, I'm going to tell you a
[01:22:46] secret," so the sparrow
[01:22:49] stopped crying and Lina approached
[01:22:52] him.
[01:22:57] She approached him. I'm going to tell you a
[01:22:59] secret. What's your
[01:23:02] secret?
[01:23:05] When there are no more trees
[01:23:08] here, when there are no
[01:23:10] trees, there will be no
[01:23:14] rain. How is that? When there are no trees,
[01:23:17] there will be no rain.
[01:23:20] She said there will be no rain. That's the truth. I'm
[01:23:23] going to tell you because it's the
[01:23:27] trees that bring the rain.
[01:23:30] Yes, it's the trees that bring
[01:23:33] the rain. And if the trees are
[01:23:37] completely cut down and the forest
[01:23:41] disappears, the rain will not come.
[01:23:45] So she didn't understand. She asked the same question, "What
[01:23:49] is this story about..."
[01:24:52] But you see, we have a
[01:24:54] factory, and the factory
[01:24:58] has
[01:24:59] to run.
[01:25:04] So we have to cut down the trees, otherwise we won't have
[01:25:07] money. Yes, but she told him, "Okay, but the
[01:25:10] sparrow no longer has a home. But how, how are we going
[01:25:14] to do it? And we live well, we have money, and the
[01:25:16] least?"
[01:25:20] Now you have to leave your house and leave.
[01:25:39] Would that make you happy? Ah, that wouldn't make you happy. Well, it's the same thing. The sparrow lives in
[01:25:43] this tree, and now he was forced to leave because we're going
[01:25:47] to cut down the tree, and she saw that... things
[01:25:50] were not right, and she was very sad.
[01:25:54] So she talked to her grandfather, her grandfather who was
[01:25:58] very old and
[01:26:01] house much, he stayed, he read a lot. She said, "Grandfather, I
[01:26:05] am sad."
[01:26:08] "And why are you sad?" "Well, I'm sad because the
[01:26:11] sparrow no longer has a home, the factory
[01:26:14] continues to cut down the trees, and I'm afraid for
[01:26:18] this forest, and what if there are no more trees?"
[01:26:21] So the grandfather replied, "My son, if there are no more
[01:26:25] trees, there will be no more rain!" "Ah, you know the secret,
[01:26:28] the sparrow's secret, the sparrow told me, if there are no more trees, there
[01:26:32] will be no more rain." "But of course I know the
[01:26:36] secret, everyone knows this secret. Now you're old
[01:26:39] enough to know it well and to take
[01:26:42] responsibility for it." "But how can I take responsibility? How can I
[01:26:45] find the solution? What should she do? Do you have a solution, Ferraz, like
[01:26:49] this?" What should be done?
[01:27:04] Okay, so
[01:27:08] I'm going to come back to your drawing.
[01:27:11] In fact, the solution was, as you said, you have to plant
[01:27:15] trees. So
[01:27:18] that's the solution, Grandpa.
[01:27:20] But yes, of course, that's the solution. The
[01:27:23] solution is to plant trees
[01:27:26] and trees and more trees. That way, the
[01:27:30] forest will never end. So
[01:27:32] tomorrow,
[01:27:36] the gardener who took care of the city's gardens, the
[01:27:38] village, he told
[01:27:40] him,
[01:27:44] "tree seedlings like these that I can plant." "Oh, you are the first one who came to get
[01:27:48] them."
[01:27:52] But no one came to get them to plant them. So
[01:27:55] she said to herself, "Well, I'm going to
[01:27:58] do it, and I'm going to start planting these
[01:28:02] trees." They gave her
[01:28:06] a tree seedling. I have a frog in my
[01:28:09] throat. You will just
[01:28:13] excuse me, but talking about trees and children like this is always
[01:28:16] moving for me.
[01:28:22] In any case, she started to do
[01:28:24] what? To go and get tree
[01:28:27] seedlings and go and
[01:28:30] plant them all the time.
[01:29:32] now you have to wait, you have to wait for March and
[01:29:36] April to continue planting these
[01:29:39] trees,
[01:29:43] but why? Why? Because there are
[01:29:45] trees,
[01:29:48] and then there are trees that grow very fast when you plant
[01:29:52] them precisely during the spring,
[01:29:54] after,
[01:29:59] autumn, winter, there is precisely.
[01:30:27] the other side of the forest, and there she saw something very
[01:30:31] serious. Do you know what she saw? She
[01:30:33] saw the sand of the
[01:30:36] desert that was
[01:30:38] advancing.
[01:30:41] She saw the sand that the
[01:30:44] sand was too close to the forest.
[01:30:47] He told her, "Look, if you don't continue to
[01:30:50] plant the trees, you plant
[01:30:52] them,
[01:30:56] and it will destroy the whole forest and the
[01:30:58] soil will become arid and there will
[01:31:01] really be no more rain." So what, should I continue to
[01:31:05] plant these trees? Should I continue to plant them? Yes, you
[01:31:09] and all your friends. So she gathered her friends. You
[01:31:12] know, it's very serious if we don't plant trees. It's very, very
[01:31:16] serious. If we don't plant them, then
[01:31:19] the desert will advance and
[01:31:22] advance, and when there are no trees, there will be no
[01:31:25] rain, and everything will be dry and there will be no more life.
[01:31:29] Many animals have already left our... So since that
[01:31:33] day, Lina plants
[01:31:36] trees, she never stops. Every
[01:31:38] spring, the children get involved, and it has become a
[01:31:41] tradition. In every city, in the
[01:31:44] spring, people go with
[01:31:47] associations, with schools, with
[01:31:51] educational farms. What do they do? They go
[01:31:54] and plant.
[01:31:59] the nursery, give a nursery, and that's where they go to look for them.
[01:32:33] if it's true, you know, in real life, if you asked me the question earlier,
[01:32:36] in real life, it's true that it's the trees that bring the rain,
[01:32:40] and in real life, it's true that when we don't plant trees, the
[01:32:44] desert advances and the sand will
[01:32:48] come and settle and as a result, there will be no
[01:32:51] greenery and there will be no life, so you have to be very
[01:32:55] careful. But why is it like that?
[01:32:58] You are the one who loves science, normally it's great.
[01:34:15] the rain that brings the rain, the more trees there are, the more
[01:34:18] rain there is, and the weather is pleasant. So there is a big
[01:34:22] cloud that is crying, right? And when it cries, there is
[01:34:25] rain. That's right. Super, a second
[01:34:29] image. Yes.
[01:34:31] It's the
[01:34:33] same.
[01:34:39] Me. Youssef, he's planting,
[01:34:42] and you're learning. I'm going to
[01:34:45] يغرس نتوما اني تعلموا انا رايحه
[01:34:48] plant.
[01:34:53] I planted one.
[01:34:59] When I was little, I used to grab.
[01:35:03] Give me a picture. Give me a picture. Go.
[01:35:06] Here, give me a picture. I want to see it.
[01:35:10] What is it?
[01:35:12] Ah.
[01:35:25] Those trees, the whole desert and the sand
[01:35:29] will enter, and there will be nothing to hold it.
[01:35:33] The land will not dry up. There will be no water. It will become
[01:35:36] barren. And there will be no greenery. There will be no
[01:35:38] trees. It is
[01:35:42] the desert.
[01:35:45] very, very bad, because afterwards there will be no greenery, there will be no fruits,
[01:35:48] Show me the drawing you
[01:35:52] made.
[01:35:59] they turn around. Ah, ah, yes, I know. What did you
[01:36:03] draw? Ah, yes, because well,
[01:36:06] I had told them the story of Ahmed who said that the color of the apple
[01:36:10] was white, and there it is. So
[01:36:13] Ahmed's white apple, Ahmed,
[01:36:17] he really made them laugh. He told them
[01:36:21] the color of the apple is white. And he was right. Why is the color of the apple
[01:36:25] white? Sirine, remind me. Because it's white inside. Because it's
[01:36:29] inside. The thing is inside, not
[01:36:32] outside.
[01:36:36] Inside.
[01:36:39] Sirine, thank you very much.
[01:36:41] Thank you.
[01:36:53] If you see that the desert has advanced, it's a bit too late. Ah, I promise you that
[01:36:57] it's true. Thank you for following this show. I'm
[01:37:00] happy to have told this story to
[01:37:03] friends like them. They are great. You were
[01:37:07] super good. Thank
[01:37:10] you very
[01:38:04] much. I seek refuge in Allah from Satan the accursed.
[01:38:09] the believers at fixed
[01:38:11] times.
[01:38:20] Allahu Akbar.
[01:38:21] Allah
[01:38:28] is the greatest.
[01:38:33] I bear witness that there is no god but
[01:38:36] Allah.
[01:38:43] I bear witness that there is no
[01:38:47] god
[01:38:50] but
[01:38:52] Allah.
[01:38:59] I bear witness that Muhammad
[01:39:03] is the messenger
[01:39:04] of Allah.
[01:39:11] I bear witness
[01:39:14] that Muhammad
[01:39:16] is the messenger
[01:39:18] of Allah.
[01:39:26] Come to
[01:39:27] prayer.
[01:40:04] success.
[01:40:35] Allahu Akbar.
[01:40:36] Allah
[01:40:41] is the greatest.
[01:40:43] There is
[01:40:47] no god
[01:40:50] but
[01:40:52] Allah.
[01:41:00] O Allah, Lord of this perfect call and the prayer
[01:41:03] that is established, grant Muhammad the means
[01:41:06] and the excellence and raise him to the praised station
[01:41:24] one knows how to be.
[01:42:08] Let's play football! Let's start!
[01:42:12] Let's go! The ball is always
[01:42:15] in our court, my friends! Let's go!
[01:42:18] Let's move!
[01:42:24] Hurry! And strive
[01:42:28] of passion! And motivate yourselves to win
[01:42:32] the best titles!
[01:42:35] We are always the strongest!
[01:42:38] Football is fun!
[01:42:41] We are always
[01:42:43] the best!
[01:42:49] Let's go!
[01:42:57] We have one day before the decisive battle. Kevin Mick the Bulldozer
[01:43:01] and his undefeated
[01:43:03] to compete in a match for the right to play in
[01:43:07] the football field.
[01:43:11] They were much bigger
[01:43:13] and stronger than us.
[01:43:16] Heavily built, bone-crushing monsters.
[01:43:18] And
[01:43:23] this is a goal.
[01:43:29] Oh, this night filled with ominous nightmares! How
[01:43:32] are we supposed to win? But I forgot one thing,
[01:43:36] and that is that we have the best coach in the world,
[01:43:39] Larry. Oh, he destroyed the goal!
[01:43:42] Yes, with one superhuman kick, they crushed the goal
[01:43:45] with a "braboom"! Oh, these crazy young men!
[01:43:49] This is good. What's good about that?
[01:43:52] They think crushing the ball is
[01:43:54] is to it.
[01:43:59] nothing they can
[01:44:02] is to it. The ball must be
[01:44:05] invisible to them and
[01:44:08] it must be as fast as lightning. You are very
[01:44:11] professional. Am I professional? Did I say
[01:44:14] that? Well, that's another
[01:44:17] story. And now we have to practice
[01:44:20] the luminous spectrum pass. The idea
[01:44:23] is simple. Wherever the ball is, it must
[01:44:27] disappear immediately. Each of you must kick
[01:44:30] one kick. You must run and move
[01:44:34] quickly, and most importantly, trust
[01:44:37] each other.
[01:44:44] Wait, it's not that easy.
[01:44:48] I present to you
[01:44:50] your opposing team, Horrifying Evil Steam.
[01:44:54] Okay, you are on one team. Kyle is the
[01:44:58] goalkeeper, and you are his team. Try
[01:45:01] to reach the goal without colliding, and run as
[01:45:04] fast as lightning.
[01:45:16] The luminous spectrum pass was
[01:45:20] the hardest thing I've done in my entire
[01:45:22] life, especially with my weak left foot. Ah,
[01:45:55] touch it!
[01:46:01] Ah, I told you not to touch it, Roger! The reason is my
[01:46:05] weak left foot. Stop that, Roger! Your foot must be strong
[01:46:09] before it is weak. Speaking of trust and reliance on
[01:46:12] each other, I think Roger helps the other team more than
[01:46:16] he helps
[01:46:17] us.
[01:46:36] flooding. So I was dismissed from the team
[01:46:40] and sent to the desert alone and without friends to help me.
[01:46:44] I was a failure. Roger the failure with
[01:46:47] two big zeros on his face.
[01:46:49] But they
[01:46:54] will regret
[01:46:55] that.
[01:47:04] We can find something to drink. Open, open!
[01:47:08] Come on!
[01:47:18] Are you all weak?
[01:47:32] What do we have here? A midget spy?
[01:47:36] Or perhaps a fan of our team?
[01:47:41] And now, come on, speak!
[01:47:44] What are you doing here, half-pint? Spying on our
[01:47:48] training? No, I just wanted to. I just
[01:47:52] wanted to. You're not training, you're dying of thirst! But what do you think,
[01:47:56] four-eyed midget? If we tie you to the
[01:47:59] post, you said you were dying of thirst, but
[01:48:03] what? But what?
[01:48:06] Hmm, but what were you planning to do to us when
[01:48:10] I told you, "But I ah, come
[01:48:13] on, speak, or your bones will dry up on the goal
[01:48:16] post!" "But I, but I know where the key to the kiosk
[01:48:20] is." And
[01:48:23] so I became a traitor, but
[01:48:26] that happened in self-defense, and in a way, the Free
[01:48:30] Ball team deserved
[01:48:31] it, and so did Larry.
[01:48:44] One thing is certain,
[01:48:48] let Larry see you again.
[01:48:49] And
[01:48:54] I also don't want to see him. Really,
[01:48:57] what about the other dwarfs? Tell me.
[01:49:00] Listen, they are far from me now, and they might even be in Siberia.
[01:49:04] I don't care about them at all anymore.
[01:49:08] That sounds good to you.
[01:49:10] Eager to see us wipe the floor with those dwarfs
[01:49:13] tomorrow. You'll wipe the floor. Yes, of course.
[01:49:18] undefeated. I am undefeated. Yes,
[01:49:21] exactly. They are the ones who sought that.
[01:49:23] There is something else we need to be
[01:49:27] careful about tomorrow, Larry
[01:49:31] is the coach of the Free Ball team, and he was a professional.
[01:49:35] Larry, did you say Larry
[01:49:37] the professional? Let's go! We will give them
[01:49:41] a serious wake-up
[01:49:42] call!
[01:49:50] Don't you think you're missing
[01:49:52] a player?
[01:49:56] Roger, we have a new talented player who can do
[01:49:59] anything! Roger, you can't do
[01:50:03] this! I do more than you think, and this doesn't apply to everyone
[01:50:06] here. Some do less than you think,
[01:50:10] like Larry. Tell me,
[01:50:13] what does Larry have to do with this? I know one
[01:50:16] thing, and that is that Larry knows nothing about football. He
[01:50:20] is deceiving you.
[01:50:33] That's not true. He's lying, isn't he,
[01:50:36] Larry?
[01:50:39] No, he's right. I've never been a professional.
[01:50:42] I don't believe this. This is truly
[01:50:45] a disaster. You lied to us. I don't
[01:50:48] believe that at all. You're the one who talks about trust all the time.
[01:50:52] We thought you knew what you were doing because you're
[01:50:55] a professional. Yes, we believed you when you said we
[01:50:59] would beat them, and I still stand by my opinion. You still
[01:51:03] stand by your opinion. All adults say
[01:51:06] one thing to you, and in the end they don't do it. It's babble, come on.
[01:51:10] We can succeed without
[01:51:11] him.
[01:51:20] defeated. Come on, Four Eyes, you'll see
[01:51:24] the winners' training. I think they wronged
[01:51:28] me. I chose my team and I'm with the winners.
[01:51:51] You're a failure at football. Maybe I'll stay out
[01:51:54] of the game tomorrow. You can't stay out
[01:51:57] of the game. Have you forgotten? You've become one of us,
[01:52:00] and I know how to use you
[01:52:02] tonight.
[01:52:07] I was supposed to make the Free Ball team walk all night
[01:52:11] tomorrow
[01:52:13] morning.
[01:52:19] Now they'll see what I can do.
[01:52:25] But when I saw Kyle's look, I couldn't do it.
[01:52:39] I went to the next
[01:52:40] station.
[01:52:43] But Kevin and Tyler were healthy too,
[01:52:48] still our friend, isn't he? Yes, and he will remain
[01:52:51] our friend too. I will get him back when
[01:52:54] we get the field back. And will you get Larry back too?
[01:52:58] Enough talk about Larry.
[01:53:00] I didn't believe what I heard then. Kevin had never
[01:53:04] said anything like that before. I still have to go see
[01:53:08] the orphanage.
[01:53:13] Here's Joey. Joey left the orphanage in the middle of the night.
[01:53:16] But where is he
[01:53:17] going?
[01:53:22] He's going to my house.
[01:53:36] Roger, wake up. We need to talk.
[01:53:40] We, we are sorry for
[01:53:42] everything.
[01:53:47] No, none of us slept a single second
[01:53:51] that night. None of us.
[01:53:55] A professional career for a young
[01:53:58] rising talent before its launch.
[01:54:20] Then came the big show day. The day
[01:54:23] that it would be decided if the Free Ball team would get
[01:54:26] its field forever, or Mickey
[01:54:30] team. I'll tell you one thing, no matter what happens
[01:54:34] today, we won't surrender to them.
[01:54:36] Look at them, the four dwarves
[01:54:39] and Snow White. Isn't the coach with you? Where is
[01:54:42] Four-Eyes Roger? He disappeared, but we don't
[01:54:46] need him to show you what we have
[01:54:49] hidden.
[01:54:53] Mickey the Bulldozer was wrong. I didn't
[01:54:55] disappear. I thought about everything that happened to me during
[01:54:59] the night, and it became clear beyond any doubt
[01:55:02] that I belong to the Free
[01:55:05] Ball team. But what should I do
[01:55:08] now?
[01:55:13] What's wrong with you? That was a mistake. Impossible. This
[01:55:16] is called a physical move.
[01:55:29] Hello? Where did everyone go?
[01:55:33] The dwarf goalkeeper.
[01:55:38] The darkest nightmare is on its way to us. The undefeated
[01:55:42] team got everything they wanted. Everything was going
[01:55:45] in favor of our enemies. They were in defense
[01:56:06] Joey was pushed aside like a mosquito
[01:56:29] Great!
[01:56:39] And as usual, Kevin tried to do everything
[01:56:42] by himself. Keep passing
[01:56:44] the ball.
[01:56:52] If it wasn't for Kyle, the match would have ended after five
[01:56:56] minutes.
[01:57:01] Come on, guys, can you forget everything Larry taught us?
[01:57:06] Suddenly, I realized how I could help the Free Ball
[01:57:09] team.
[01:57:16] Larry, Larry, come on, wake up. I'll get
[01:57:20] you, King. I am Larry. The Free
[01:57:24] Ball team is on its way to defeat, like someone descending into the depths of the ocean. I
[01:57:27] assure you, you are happy about that.
[01:57:30] No, it's complicated like tangled
[01:57:32] spaghetti. Come on, you have
[01:57:35] to help them. How can I help? They won't trust me anymore,
[01:57:39] and I understand their position.
[01:57:43] matter to you, nor does the soccer field. Oh, what a
[01:57:47] disaster. What about him? And what are you waiting for?
[01:58:05] No, no, the first half is over.
[01:58:25] Now we will never defeat them. This is unbelievable. I can't believe
[01:58:29] it.
[01:58:33] Listen up, dwarves!
[01:58:53] Remember who you are. You are the small pebbles that
[01:58:59] water. And most importantly, the Free Ball team works as
[01:59:03] one.
[01:59:11] In addition, the weather today is on
[01:59:15] your side.
[01:59:19] The game continued, but not like before.
[01:59:48] We weren't playing to console ourselves. We were playing for everything.
[02:00:20] touch the ball, except when they pulled
[02:00:23] it out of the net. Their net, of course.
[02:00:40] Nine to eight. For the first time,
[02:00:43] the Free Ball team scored another
[02:00:46] goal. The football field was ours.
[02:00:50] Let's go, you pessimistic sacks. It's time
[02:00:53] for a beating.
[02:01:02] I will defeat you, coach.
[02:01:19] Great,
[02:01:19] Roger.
[02:01:24] Here, but one thing hasn't changed. Kevin
[02:01:27] kept ignoring me and wasn't passing the ball to me.
[02:01:31] Kevin, I'm here. To the middle, come on.
[02:01:35] Pass it, Kevin, pass it to Roger. Here, Kevin.
[02:01:37] كيفين
[02:01:41] Did you get
[02:01:41] it?
[02:01:46] This
[02:02:20] Yes, yes, yes. Wow,
[02:02:23] with my weak
[02:02:25] foot.
[02:02:29] I had to do that because I was the one who challenged
[02:02:33] them. But you did it. It was a great pass.
[02:02:36] I congratulate you, Mr. Lightning
[02:02:39] Passes. What? Mr. Lightning
[02:02:42] Passes.
[02:02:47] Today, you are the hero. You too.
[02:02:51] All of us, by cooperating, achieved victory. No, not
[02:02:54] you alone. It was your goal, and you were the one who brought
[02:03:01] the world.
[02:03:08] A beautiful personal goal. And now, get out of here, you
[02:03:12] dwarves! What? Did you think we would
[02:03:16] give up the football field for this nursery
[02:03:19] show? Let's go sweep the field with the dwarves
[02:03:23] again. No, that's enough for
[02:03:26] today.
[02:03:33] Hey, I have it all here. Do you want me
[02:03:37] to
[02:03:45] No one should see that
[02:03:47] garbage.
[02:03:53] It's not over. We will
[02:03:55] be back.
[02:04:02] We look forward
[02:04:03] to it.
[02:04:11] Wait, it's still working. The whole match
[02:04:16] should see this. I want to watch it a thousand times
[02:04:19] to see how Mickey was defeated. And everyone
[02:04:22] else will watch it too, won't they? Long live
[02:04:26] our field. Our field,
[02:04:29] our field. And how will we celebrate,
[02:04:32] guys?
[02:04:34] I keep wondering how they managed to get into
[02:04:37] my booth. I, I did
[02:04:40] it. I was the one who let them in. Mickey was holding me
[02:04:43] tightly and threatening me all the time. But I promise
[02:04:47] I will make it up to you.
[02:04:50] When it comes to making up, Clein is
[02:04:54] a professional.
[02:04:56] Long live Roger the hero.
[02:05:00] Long live Larry the coach, and long live our field
[02:05:03] too, which has become ours forever.
[02:05:52] Good evening, friends, happy to see you again.
[02:05:55] So, summer in music, it's your
[02:05:59] appointment. During the summer season, we
[02:06:02] are in Ain Taya, yes, yes, we moved to
[02:06:05] the west of the capital.
[02:06:08] Jan, you are still close.
[02:06:11] We cry and bite our fingers. I heard you named
[02:06:15] my love. Fate threw me and cast
[02:06:18] me into cold, strange embraces. As for
[02:06:21] your love, it healed me and picked
[02:06:24] me the gift. Crying is useless,
[02:06:28] regret.
[02:06:32] Enough of my talk. You said
[02:06:34] the words.
[02:06:36] When I was with you, I was always oppressed. My life
[02:06:39] went backward. The darkness has
[02:06:43] passed. I don't regret leaving
[02:06:45] you. If the breastplate
[02:06:48] had not been there, I would have been able to return home. It was written
[02:06:52] that I should live a new life, and all my
[02:06:55] days returned.
[02:07:40] Ladies and gentlemen, good evening. And for a coffee with us in your
[02:07:43] cultural rendezvous, the Café des Arts, for a very
[02:07:47] special issue, an issue produced within the framework of the 2026 World Cup
[02:07:51] and for which we received
[02:07:54] two great former internationals and two major figures who particularly
[02:07:58] made the golden age of Algerian football and who shone both
[02:08:01] nationally and internationally. They will be with us in a very short
[02:08:05] while to share with us the traditional cup of coffee of this broadcast. So we tell you see you
[02:08:09] soon, just after this.
[02:08:29] Back on set, but... Ladies and gentlemen, with our guests for this
[02:08:32] special broadcast of the day, two icons of
[02:08:35] Algerian football, namely TJ Bensaoula
[02:08:39] and Karim Maroc. Gentlemen, thank you very
[02:08:42] much for accepting our invitation and for being with us today at the Café des Arts.
[02:08:45] Okay, I would like to thank you on my personal behalf
[02:08:49] and on behalf of my friend Karim for this
[02:08:52] invitation.
[02:08:55] It also allows us to
[02:08:57] get to know the people who are behind the cameras and
[02:09:01] all that. So we wish them a little good luck and
[02:09:05] welcome, welcome. In any case, just to put
[02:09:08] this broadcast a little in context because
[02:09:11] the planetary football event, namely the 2026 World Cup.
[02:09:15] We absolutely wanted to add our stone to the edifice by
[02:09:19] organizing a panel dedicated to the icons who marked the history of
[02:09:23] Algerian football and it is a
[02:09:25] real pleasure to meet you today and to share a coffee with you
[02:09:29] today. And it is thanks in particular to our common friend Hamid
[02:09:33] Tarzouti, whom we greet today, whom we have already received
[02:09:36] in this broadcast and who was able to bring us together today.
[02:09:40] So a big thank you to him. So,
[02:09:43] well, yes, we thank you already in the first
[02:09:47] place, of course, to the whole team, but
[02:09:49] it took some people who are a little foreign to
[02:09:53] football to be able to bring us together. That's it.
[02:09:57] It touches me a little, especially since I mean the football
[02:10:01] family was a little far from highlighting
[02:10:05] that.
[02:10:08] Well, a small coffee.
[02:10:16] And on that subject, I hope that it will spread a little to
[02:10:19] some players who are
[02:10:22] known and who have not disappeared, because I'm opening a parenthesis,
[02:10:26] for example, Mr. Mansouri could
[02:10:28] have been with us. We also didn't
[02:10:32] have the opportunity to have a report on him, and he gave
[02:10:35] enormously to this national team, and all the public
[02:10:38] recognizes him. And this is a parenthesis that I wanted to make.
[02:10:42] Simply, I think of Yahi, I think of guys like
[02:10:46] that, because it's always the same ones who pass, but the message doesn't get through very well.
[02:10:50] Precisely, even on our side, we wanted to insist on
[02:10:53] receiving great figures of national football,
[02:10:56] but who are not necessarily presented, who are not seen much on television, very little,
[02:11:00] or almost not at all, and who nevertheless have a
[02:11:04] brilliant career, as in your case, Mr. Maroc,
[02:11:07] with 15 selections for the national team with two goals scored, participations
[02:11:11] in the World Cup, in the African Cup. So these are still very, very
[02:11:15] important careers, and we wanted to receive you today to talk
[02:11:18] about it. So obviously, when we want to answer football
[02:11:22] questions, and especially with the event that is happening
[02:11:25] currently, and give our opinion, I am
[02:11:29] neither the master of the world nor the advisor of X or
[02:11:32] Y to give an opinion by saying, "It's me who is
[02:11:36] right and this is what should happen." I think I must be
[02:11:39] respectful towards a coach and the players who are
[02:11:43] on the field. And I suppose, despite the defeat we had,
[02:11:47] for example, in this case against Argentina, that the boys tried
[02:11:50] to do well. I think deep down they
[02:11:54] were in the best conditions, but well, exactly. Well, we will come back in more
[02:11:57] detail to the recent match
[02:12:01] between Algeria and Argentina, but first we will start, finally, take advantage of your
[02:12:04] presence to talk a little about you, about your career, about your journey,
[02:12:08] of course. We will start with Mr. Bensaoula.
[02:12:12] You still had a rather particular start for a footballer. You were
[02:12:16] a French language teacher. I read, I
[02:12:19] still had to combine sport and studies in
[02:12:23] a sense. Well, we wanted to ensure a little, to the extent
[02:12:27] that football was nursing, it was not
[02:12:30] solid knowledge. So I had to
[02:12:33] go through teaching where I
[02:12:37] Teaching and I also taught in Hammam for a
[02:12:41] year, still the French language. And I had to
[02:12:44] help out fourth-year middle school students who were preparing their, at the time it was the
[02:12:48] BEF, it was not the BAC, exactly, in
[02:12:51] English. So I had to help them out. That allowed me to
[02:12:54] review my English.
[02:12:57] And because of that, that's how I got
[02:13:00] into
[02:13:02] teaching.
[02:13:08] Terrible. So, for football,
[02:13:12] you have to. You have to note one thing, which is that I actually started with
[02:13:14] athletics. I did 100m, 200m.
[02:13:18] I was very fast, you know. And that might have helped you a little,
[02:13:21] yes, enormously, enormously. It helped
[02:13:24] me a lot, it helped me a lot with runs, with
[02:13:28] jumps, with
[02:13:30] speed, hence your nickname, "the gazelle." Exactly, "the gazelle."
[02:13:34] And from there I came to play football. I
[02:13:37] started in all my classes in Hammam Bou Hadjar.
[02:13:40] So, it was a pleasure and it's a good
[02:13:44] phase of my life because we had a very,
[02:13:47] very good football team. I won't hide it from you, when we
[02:13:50] came to play in Oran, many people left the Moloudia and Asmo to come and see
[02:13:54] our matches, see our matches. So, in a way,
[02:13:57] it's a passion, it's a passion from your youth, football, it's a
[02:14:01] passion and then it was a pleasure, it was a pleasure to
[02:14:05] meet again because we were in boarding school. So every
[02:14:08] Saturday and Sunday we met up with friends, we played our match, we made
[02:14:12] our trips
[02:14:15] with pleasure, it was fun, it was and the results
[02:14:18] came by themselves. We had a very good team, we had a very good
[02:14:21] team. As
[02:14:23] for because after you also had a
[02:14:27] passage from Hammam, yes,
[02:14:29] and how did that passage go already at this level? It was due to an
[02:14:33] Algerian Cup match we played against Saida, and at
[02:14:37] the time, Saida had as
[02:14:39] coach
[02:14:42] that... I won't introduce him to you at
[02:14:44] all, he is a great gentleman of
[02:14:47] football and it is thanks to him that I was able to come to Moloudia because in that
[02:14:51] Algerian Cup match with Saida, I scored two
[02:14:54] goals and I think that must have
[02:14:58] caught his eye, so he came to get me and from there I
[02:15:02] came to Moloudia of Oran and you know a little about my career at
[02:15:05] Moloudia of Oran, so it's thanks to
[02:15:07] him and I would like to thank him and
[02:15:11] his family. There you go. There you go, Mr. Maroc,
[02:15:14] uh, you, unlike Mr. Bensaoula, had a much more
[02:15:18] international career, which started internationally,
[02:15:21] particularly with, uh, with Lyon, the Lyon club. So,
[02:15:25] was it also a childhood passion for you, or
[02:15:29] was it more a series of circumstances that led you to
[02:15:32] become a professional player? And No, no, no, at
[02:15:36] the time,
[02:15:38] of course, being a professional player and so on was viewed differently by
[02:15:42] our families, especially my parents, because
[02:15:45] the priority was on studies and not being a footballer.
[02:15:49] What happens to a footballer? It's not a career to pursue.
[02:15:52] It's not like today. Today, everyone is eager to be a professional
[02:15:56] player, you know. But the fact
[02:16:00] that I insisted with my parents, only my
[02:16:03] mother supported me, and she actually won the argument against my
[02:16:07] father, and she allowed me to continue,
[02:16:11] except that I benefited from circumstances. It
[02:16:14] only took a gentleman to scout
[02:16:17] me, but he didn't come to me. So I received
[02:16:21] a call-up from Olympique Lyonnais, and I didn't
[02:16:24] understand. So to be able to do a trial, they kept
[02:16:28] me for a week, and finally after 48 hours, they told me it's
[02:16:31] okay, we want to see your parents, since I was a minor. So
[02:16:35] finally, it went well, that's how I joined Olympique
[02:16:38] Lyonnais. I was 16 and a half,
[02:16:42] I was barely 17, and 3 months later I played professionally.
[02:16:45] So it was really, it was such
[02:16:49] incredible luck because there had to be injuries,
[02:16:53] so my coach was Aimé.
[02:16:57] And that famous Aimé Jacquet didn't hesitate for a second, but on the other hand, he
[02:17:01] gave me the opportunity to be able to
[02:17:03] express myself, and of course, at 17,
[02:17:07] it wasn't easy for me. I still
[02:17:10] tremble. And the
[02:17:13] possibility of staying in this field and then reaching
[02:17:16] this level in the space of 4
[02:17:20] months of intensive amateur.
[02:17:23] It was very intensive. And ever since he gave me that chance,
[02:17:26] I never left the professional scene.
[02:17:30] Since then, it's been a bit of a magical thing
[02:17:34] for me, but a lot of luck, like some who had bad luck and who certainly
[02:17:37] had qualities that they couldn't succeed with. Exactly. You
[02:17:41] know, Mr. Maroc, after that you still had your journey with the national team, but
[02:17:44] given your beginnings abroad, how did it happen that
[02:17:48] you were spotted and offered to join the national team? Afterwards, in
[02:17:52] fact, well, we didn't have the media coverage, you know, the
[02:17:56] people here, apart from the newspapers we had from
[02:18:00] uh, or the radio, you
[02:18:04] know. And it was a coincidence because
[02:18:07] at the time there was what we called an association of
[02:18:10] Algerians, that is to say, it was something that was a little,
[02:18:13] uh, how to say,
[02:18:18] consulate and then which gave the opportunity, for example,
[02:18:21] in the sports world, to bring in certain players
[02:18:25] who play in France and who could perhaps be part of the national
[02:18:29] team. But for that, the federation did not hear it the same way,
[02:18:33] so it was necessary to create an association of Algerian
[02:18:36] players and play against potential teams, either local or
[02:18:40] foreign, on Algerian soil. That's how it
[02:18:43] happened. So it was spotted, otherwise no one
[02:18:47] came. It's a coincidence,
[02:18:51] unfortunately.
[02:18:53] It's also your case, Mr. Ben,
[02:18:56] my case. So when I returned, when I returned to Mouloudia
[02:19:00] with at the time Belloumi,
[02:19:03] Benkada, Madahi,
[02:19:06] Consort,
[02:19:08] Lami, after a month and a half, two months, he joined the national team under the leadership
[02:19:12] of Makhloufi, and me four, five months
[02:19:16] later, so I had to join Belloumi also in the national team, which
[02:19:20] I left at the end of my career. So
[02:19:23] it was, it was, in my opinion, it was a completely normal
[02:19:27] progression given the performances that
[02:19:29] we were doing at Mouloudia d'Oran, given the results
[02:19:32] that we were doing, so it's logical
[02:19:34] that the technical staff of the national
[02:19:38] team, in particular, called up
[02:19:42] Belloumi and me, and so on. There you go.
[02:19:45] There you go. In fact, I would like to make a stop at a certain
[02:19:49] important period of your career in the national team, particularly your participation in the Mediterranean
[02:19:53] Games with the national team,
[02:19:55] and particularly that famous match against Yugoslavia,
[02:19:59] which pitted Yugoslavia against Algeria. Yes,
[02:20:02] uh, what happened during that match? Exactly, that match, we
[02:20:06] had the impression, there was the feeling that we were wronged, that we were
[02:20:09] victims of a referee who was not at all
[02:20:12] honest. And from there,
[02:20:16] uh, I remember the scene with
[02:20:18] Chabaan, I salute him.
[02:20:22] Otherwise, with his famous
[02:20:26] striking corner, but
[02:20:29] we still won the bronze medal at that
[02:20:33] time, yeah. But before, we also did the Mediterranean
[02:20:36] Games. We did, rather, the university games in
[02:20:40] Mexico, we also did the Olympic Games, you know, we did the Olympics.
[02:20:43] So, it's a, it's a logical
[02:20:47] progression in my opinion, and
[02:20:50] it allowed us to strengthen the group a little,
[02:20:53] it had a certain solidity. We were often together,
[02:20:57] practically every week we spent three days
[02:21:00] together, so it allowed us a little to solidify that, it allowed us to create a
[02:21:04] camaraderie in the team.
[02:21:08] It became very friendly, very affable, there was a really
[02:21:11] relaxed atmosphere, you know, something that was unfortunately
[02:21:15] something that was a little lost afterwards, particularly during the 1986
[02:21:19] World Cup. 86. Yeah, unfortunately,
[02:21:22] it, it crumbled, it completely crumbled, yeah.
[02:21:26] It's a shame, you know, because that group that lived together
[02:21:29] for a certain number of years
[02:21:32] still had very positive effects, you know, as a
[02:21:36] whole. And also, it had, how to say,
[02:21:40] an impact on the youth
[02:21:43] here in Algeria at the local level. All these young people
[02:21:46] referred a little to certain elements that we had, certain
[02:21:49] players, and I think we took the wrong
[02:21:53] turn a little for the future concerning
[02:21:56] this national team and concerning a little all these, all these young
[02:21:59] people. It's a shame because the work could have been greatly, greatly
[02:22:03] facilitated, you know. Yeah, it's true, it's true. In fact, I would like to return, sir.
[02:22:07] to a great match that you played,
[02:22:11] a match that pitted Algeria against Morocco,
[02:22:14] and which for me is perhaps the culminating point of your career. You scored a
[02:22:18] hat-trick, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a match that was won
[02:22:22] by Algeria by 5 goals to one, but I think, I
[02:22:25] think it's a series that
[02:22:29] normally unfolded
[02:22:32] as logically as possible, given
[02:22:36] that we had played a little at the university games, we had played the Mediterranean
[02:22:40] Games, so little by little, Halaf hesitated
[02:22:43] between the position of right-back or
[02:22:46] striker. And that match, I think he had no
[02:22:50] choice, so he put me in a striker position, and
[02:22:53] then, uh, the rest was what it was. We were
[02:22:56] very happy, by the way. And
[02:23:00] scoring three goals on an opposing pitch like that, and with circumstances that were a
[02:23:04] little particular, I think it made us happy, and
[02:23:08] then, uh, it reassured us a little in the choice that
[02:23:11] he made at the time. Do you consider this match, with hindsight,
[02:23:15] to be the greatest of your career? No, there are
[02:23:18] others, no there are others, there are other steps,
[02:23:20] unfortunately the media was not what it is today,
[02:23:24] when we go to Africa to play the African cups where we played the
[02:23:27] qualifying matches for the African Cup or the World Cup qualifiers,
[02:23:31] it's something else, but I don't think it's a
[02:23:34] reference, but there are... many very interesting matches
[02:23:37] to watch, very interesting, and on your side too,
[02:23:41] Mr. Morocco,
[02:23:44] when you take a step back and look at your entire career, what is the
[02:23:47] match that you consider to be the match of your career?
[02:23:51] Uh, it was not
[02:23:54] a reference because all the matches, whether they were
[02:23:58] official or
[02:24:01] friendly matches, so in the
[02:24:05] national team, we're talking about it. So
[02:24:07] it's about, I had seen Peru
[02:24:11] well, with
[02:24:14] it was a first, even for the public, for what concerns
[02:24:17] us, and then there was also Juventus,
[02:24:20] uh, on which we based ourselves a little, but in the end, it wasn't
[02:24:24] an end in itself, it was something that allowed
[02:24:28] us, but that allowed us to know that truly, on a team like that
[02:24:32] of the national team, given the composition that was
[02:24:36] there at that time, we saw that there were great qualities with the players that
[02:24:39] we had, who faced
[02:24:43] the big ones, the Platinis, the
[02:24:46] Bonieks, the boys who were in the spotlight, well, that was a little bit of a culmination that we had,
[02:24:52] the national team in the World Cup, well, obviously that's
[02:24:55] the event that's marking because everyone wants to participate, and
[02:24:59] it's normal, everyone said participate, not the performance.
[02:25:03] Also a highlight of your career is also the invaluable
[02:25:06] contribution you made to MCO, especially
[02:25:10] during the African Cup of Nations. Yes, so
[02:25:13] before arriving at MCO, it turned out that we had to stop our
[02:25:17] career a little early, and this career,
[02:25:20] I wasn't alone in stopping it because there was, and I pay
[02:25:24] tribute to Mansouri, we played in the same club in Montpellier,
[02:25:27] and he had to come to France following a little bit of the
[02:25:31] decisions of the ministry and the federation, after
[02:25:34] agreement with the club, in order to come and... make himself available
[02:25:38] to the federation in order to be able to prepare for the
[02:25:41] 1986 World Cup, so he left everything following
[02:25:44] the call of our country, and to
[02:25:48] come at his disposal. To be with the
[02:25:51] MCO, it was only to
[02:25:55] participate during the African Cup, while it was
[02:25:59] Algerian champion, in order to be able to face one
[02:26:02] or two rounds, or three rounds
[02:26:06] goal was just to put the team on
[02:26:10] track, so they would have wanted me to be
[02:26:14] present following my experience, but only in that
[02:26:17] sense, and that was my condition, only the
[02:26:20] African Cup, and then finally it went all the way, it went to the
[02:26:23] final, so I stayed much longer, but it was an
[02:26:27] extraordinary experience, it was the last one, by the way, you
[02:26:30] ended your career right after, yes, it was already planned before
[02:26:34] participating with the MCO, and then well, once we finished, it was
[02:26:38] a matter of stopping, simply, and it was a very, very
[02:26:41] good experience, it also gave me the opportunity to work with
[02:26:44] boys such as Mezziane, finally,
[02:26:48] to name just him, but all the boys who were there,
[02:26:52] we saw Reski just now who came to
[02:26:54] tell us,
[02:26:57] but it was a somewhat unexpected experience because it's my only
[02:27:00] club in Algeria in which I was able
[02:27:03] to participate, and it's the only one, and there were no others,
[02:27:07] while we also had the possibility to play in Algiers
[02:27:11] with the MCA and others, and after that we somewhat converted ourselves as
[02:27:14] coaches, as yes, we
[02:27:17] will, we will briefly touch on the coaching career. But before
[02:27:21] that, I would like to come back to you, Mr. Bensaoula, to discuss your participation in the
[02:27:25] 1982 World Cup, particularly
[02:27:27] your match against Chile. Yes, but my
[02:27:30] question before that is, why were you absent during the match between
[02:27:34] Algeria and Germany and Austria? No, I wasn't absent,
[02:27:38] I was a substitute, so I came on. Uh, you didn't participate.
[02:27:42] Yes, but I participated practically
[02:27:44] particularly particularly in all
[02:27:47] competitions, uh,
[02:27:50] preparation. Don't forget one thing, I was returning from a long
[02:27:53] illness, which put me out for more than a year, after a
[02:27:57] viral hyperthermia that I contracted in Mali,
[02:28:00] and so I came back.
[02:28:04] Let's say it was very hard for me to come back, and
[02:28:08] secondly, I came back and started to get my
[02:28:12] feelings for the game, my runs, and all that. Phew, another
[02:28:16] misfortune was the loss of my father, it was the death of my father, so
[02:28:20] Khalef was in suspense,
[02:28:23] uh, emotionally fragile, there you go, etcetera, etcetera. Fortunately,
[02:28:27] fortunately, by playing uh, four or
[02:28:30] five friendly matches where I was able to score around five or six
[02:28:33] goals, so Khalef reassured him, so that's why Khalef
[02:28:37] put me on the list of 24 players going to the World
[02:28:40] Cup, that's when it happened, so
[02:28:44] uh, it was still hard to come back, huh,
[02:28:47] it wasn't easy, you had to have an iron will, huh, yes,
[02:28:51] and then there was the match,
[02:28:54] after that, there you go, there you go, and after that, there was the famous first match against
[02:28:58] Germany, where I played for about 30 minutes at the end,
[02:29:02] against Austria, the same thing, and against Chile, and
[02:29:06] I played the full match, so that's where Assad scored two goals and I scored one
[02:29:10] goal and I also assisted Assad for a goal, so because
[02:29:12] of that, I think it was a fairly
[02:29:16] satisfactory World Cup, even though we didn't get through with two wins.
[02:29:21] Question mark, and if we also go back to the 1986
[02:29:24] World Cup, so you
[02:29:27] the national team, so you led the team to qualification for the
[02:29:31] World Cup, but you were absent because, according to
[02:29:34] some sources, you were ill. No, not at all. I saw the
[02:29:38] climate, I saw the climate that was there, I didn't like it
[02:29:41] at all. I won't hide from you the
[02:29:44] place we were staying,
[02:29:48] it was as if, practically, it was premeditated or I don't know,
[02:29:52] there were two blocks of buildings, a
[02:29:55] building where there were only the local players, and building
[02:29:58] B where there were the players who played abroad,
[02:30:02] and us, who were the local players who
[02:30:05] had gone to play in Europe, we didn't know where to
[02:30:09] go. They were our friends, group
[02:30:13] B, groups A, they were our friends, so we were a little bit
[02:30:17] it was not unity, it was not, we had started this
[02:30:21] World Cup not at all with unity or union, so that's
[02:30:24] why I told Saden that it didn't interest
[02:30:27] me, I only played against Brazil, against Brazil I played for
[02:30:31] half an hour, symbolically, to
[02:30:34] be able to say that I participated in a match against
[02:30:37] Brazil, but unfortunately,
[02:30:40] it was not what we expected, and then we went off track, we had perhaps one of the best teams
[02:30:44] at the time. Whose fault is it?
[02:30:48] No one knows, only God knows.
[02:30:50] Yes, we were talking about it earlier with Mr. Maroc, it's true that this decision to
[02:30:54] split the team in two was fatal,
[02:30:56] uh, already, just for the players' morale, it
[02:31:00] was already fuelled, huh?
[02:31:02] So the problem in all this is that finally, if we noticed it
[02:31:06] as some did, I think that the leaders who were with us also had
[02:31:10] the opportunity to notice it, except that there is work that needs to be done,
[02:31:14] huh, we were there for a well-defined cause, with
[02:31:17] an ambition, it's the World Cup, we weren't going to live for
[02:31:21] a year, but uh, I think we
[02:31:24] could have avoided certain things for the country's interest, that's
[02:31:27] work that wasn't done, and we blame a little bit certain people who
[02:31:31] were there for not doing anything about it. We are dealing, for
[02:31:35] example, with players who were professionals abroad,
[02:31:39] and so they are Algerians,
[02:31:42] and what's the problem? On the contrary, it's good to put everyone
[02:31:45] on the same pedestal so that everyone is
[02:31:48] valued, that's work, but that's also a form
[02:31:52] of intelligence, and that, that wasn't done, it's
[02:31:55] a little bit to blame practically everyone who presented
[02:31:58] themselves as a leader for not contributing.
[02:32:03] to this, this request, huh, the request is
[02:32:06] unity, it's union for
[02:32:09] the interest of our national team, and that's
[02:32:12] where it stops, and it's a shame, otherwise it would have gone very, very
[02:32:15] well because we saw it gradually, it sort of
[02:32:19] went down and then saying, well, we have a national
[02:32:22] team and we face it. You who were
[02:32:25] present, Mr. Maroc, did the
[02:32:28] players denounce this behavior
[02:32:32] at the time, the fact of being separated into two, and
[02:32:36] uh, it's for some that they said
[02:32:40] nothing because we were still living in a world,
[02:32:43] let's say, where people, I don't know, they didn't say too much what they
[02:32:47] thought. So, uh, obviously you have players
[02:32:50] who had strong characters and who said what they thought, and then others
[02:32:54] who were a bit sly, so they didn't talk about it, but they
[02:32:57] didn't think any less of it, and that's what was terrible. So,
[02:33:01] it turns out that, as I said, people, everyone knew,
[02:33:05] but there were many, many, including some
[02:33:09] players who did not do what was necessary for the interest, I
[02:33:12] mean, of the national team. It's
[02:33:16] sad to talk like that, and it's sad that I can talk
[02:33:19] about it this way, but it's the truth,
[02:33:23] nothing more, nothing less. This I would like to open a small parenthesis for an
[02:33:27] anecdote that I find quite funny, which we discussed later
[02:33:31] during a meeting with you two about the uniform
[02:33:34] that you wore at the time, the Sonytex
[02:33:37] uniform, which today has become a real
[02:33:41] collector's item. Today everyone is looking for these jerseys, but it's true that at
[02:33:45] the time they weren't very comfortable jerseys for the players, not
[02:33:48] at all. Yes, they weren't designed, obviously, to stay in a
[02:33:52] different context. Uh, now they give you
[02:33:55] jerseys where the story of, for example,
[02:33:58] perspiration was completely different, but for us it was something
[02:34:02] else because the jersey we had weighed even more, huh, if it weighed
[02:34:05] 200 grams,
[02:34:09] the match. But that's not what I mean.
[02:34:12] I understand that there's a brand
[02:34:16] from here, or Algerian national,
[02:34:19] and that it's somewhat conveyed through the national team, there's
[02:34:23] no problem with that. But there was also equipment
[02:34:27] for civilian clothes to
[02:34:30] represent our country.
[02:34:32] To be able to leave, now they are soaked just a little bit by the
[02:34:36] season, in the middle of summer, we found ourselves with
[02:34:39] winter clothes, imagine at
[02:34:43] 30 degrees what that could do, but it was
[02:34:46] Sonitex, it's true, it was Sonitex. When you see how time
[02:34:49] does things well, when you see today the sums
[02:34:52] that some people are capable of spending to acquire these
[02:34:56] jerseys,
[02:34:58] it has become a cult, it has become elements. It's
[02:35:04] everything, have you kept
[02:35:06] that era? Personally, I exchanged a lot with the
[02:35:10] clubs, with the teams with which I played. To come back to the
[02:35:14] climate that Karim was talking about, you
[02:35:18] know, I was lucky enough to spend quite a few months in
[02:35:21] Mexico. Well, Mexico is the country of four seasons, so
[02:35:25] you had to expect that, for example, in the Monterrey region it was
[02:35:28] summer, in the Mexico City region it
[02:35:31] was... it was spring, in the Oaxaca region it was autumn
[02:35:35] and so on, so the four seasons revolved
[02:35:39] in that same country, and then they have two
[02:35:42] coastlines, so in my opinion, they must have
[02:35:45] made a mistake about where we were going to play, so we had to prepare
[02:35:49] outfits that were practically adequate for the place where we were going
[02:35:53] to play, there you go. There you go, there
[02:35:56] you go, that's to come back a little bit to the outfits and the
[02:36:00] costumes that Kirim was talking about. So now we're going to take a little time to discuss
[02:36:04] the coaching career you had in your
[02:36:06] career. So we're going to start with you, sir, so you were
[02:36:10] also Majer's assistant, well, first of all, I
[02:36:14] came to Moludiador in
[02:36:16] 93-94, so
[02:36:20] I was quite favorably received by Abdullah
[02:36:22] Meshrit,
[02:36:24] so and we had also won the Algerian championship title that
[02:36:28] year. There you
[02:36:31] go, and this, let's say, this
[02:36:34] arrival at Moulodia allowed me to rethink and review
[02:36:38] certain ideas about football, certain preparations,
[02:36:40] etc. From there, so...
[02:36:44] I left with Majer, he took
[02:36:47] the national team in 94, 96, two consecutive years,
[02:36:50] then the second time was in 2000 and
[02:36:54] 2002, we had actually done the African Cup of Nations in Mali, and
[02:36:58] in the meantime, I had the chance to coach quite a few
[02:37:02] clubs in the west because I didn't want to stray too far from my family, CRT,
[02:37:06] he has the CRT, he has the Asmodoran, he has a station already at the CRT that has gone
[02:37:09] through, yeah, yeah, well, I'm happy for them because we still ran
[02:37:13] after this accident.
[02:37:23] and finally, there was Harz and Remchi, there you go.
[02:37:27] So, roughly fifteen
[02:37:29] years as a coach, but it's
[02:37:33] tiring, be careful, it's tiring, and it's very stressful, so you have to endure
[02:37:37] that. That's why now
[02:37:40] I'm a little bit reluctant to take on a team or something like that, it's
[02:37:44] not easy. Uh, Mr. Maroc, can
[02:37:47] every player become a coach?
[02:37:50] Uh,
[02:37:54] profile. Now the problem in all this is not on a
[02:37:57] technical level or anything else, sometimes the person herself is not
[02:38:01] capable of facing a group
[02:38:05] and conveying a message. That's not
[02:38:08] given to everyone. On the other hand, yes, it's also possible, huh.
[02:38:12] But... the difference is that the environment
[02:38:16] of football, he has experienced it, so he has a
[02:38:19] considerable advantage, the former player, that's
[02:38:23] undeniable. And unfortunately,
[02:38:27] we have seen that
[02:38:29] there are still players who are experienced or who have
[02:38:33] not benefited, if you will, from the help of the
[02:38:36] associations that we have, and especially at their head, the federation,
[02:38:40] allowing a little bit to take back these elements and to... say, well,
[02:38:44] listen, there's perhaps a possibility for some of you who have the
[02:38:47] profile to be able to evolve and train
[02:38:50] young people and and and seniors, because it's
[02:38:53] completely different, huh, young people are much harder than seniors,
[02:38:57] huh. And bad
[02:39:01] pedagogy, a good analytical mind, I imagine.
[02:39:05] You have to be a strategist, a strategist, and then you have to select, you
[02:39:08] have to see, you have to be a little bit
[02:39:12] uh, the people who are likely to
[02:39:15] enroll these young people and make them work a little
[02:39:18] bit and convey the messages, it's
[02:39:22] not like seniors, that's it, huh. But that's another job,
[02:39:26] and the problem in all this, I regret a little bit that the former players
[02:39:30] and those who went unnoticed could not
[02:39:32] benefit from these advantages, despite
[02:39:36] themselves, because these are boys who are in the football family and we have
[02:39:39] forgotten them. Yes, it's true, it's true, you also have a coaching career,
[02:39:43] uh, Mr. yes? Yes, yes, I had a career, yes.
[02:39:47] Yes, I had a coaching career, especially in the national team, and
[02:39:51] that allowed me a little bit to take certain young people, notably
[02:39:54] the U18, U19,
[02:39:57] and so among them, I think that three-quarters
[02:40:00] have become internationals and in professional
[02:40:04] clubs, huh? These are
[02:40:07] HO who
[02:40:10] made a question that I want to ask you two coaches, uh, when
[02:40:13] we, when we talk, let's
[02:40:17] coaching, exactly, so we will discover all the administrative aspect
[02:40:20] a little bit of the football federation and all
[02:40:24] uh, maybe for someone who comes from the field, it's not very
[02:40:27] exciting, or on the contrary, it's a handicap.
[02:40:31] Did you face that? Yes. Yes, we
[02:40:35] did face it, but I'm going to go even further because at the level of the federation,
[02:40:39] uh, at that time, the federation didn't have the means
[02:40:42] to put the right people in place to help us, it's not like
[02:40:45] today, huh, today they have they have a lot of means, huh,
[02:40:49] so to be able to register elements,
[02:40:52] uh, for administration and others, we didn't
[02:40:55] have that, or even that, or even that mobile
[02:40:59] phones almost didn't exist, huh. That's
[02:41:02] a problem. I had the opportunity to work on this
[02:41:06] side at the federation, but I also had the opportunity to work as
[02:41:10] a ministerial advisor for sport,
[02:41:13] uh, at the Ministry of Youth and... notably with Mr.
[02:41:17] Benbouzid, Mr. Guidoum, so we had
[02:41:20] done some work, so I have a good idea of what was happening, and
[02:41:24] unfortunately, on the administrative side, I was fortunate... actually, on that side,
[02:41:28] it was made easier for me, oh okay, oh yes, it was made easier for me, but
[02:41:32] otherwise it's true, it's sometimes a handicap, yeah, yeah, was it
[02:41:36] your case too, Mr.? Well, let's say, since I took on clubs,
[02:41:39] uh, in clubs, it's a completely different matter,
[02:41:43] inasmuch as there are 25 players,
[02:41:46] 25 different characters, there's a
[02:41:49] technical staff to manage, there are those who work and those who don't,
[02:41:52] a medical staff to manage, a physio who does a
[02:41:56] good job, and a player in 3 or 4 days, while others can
[02:42:00] let it drag on for 10 or 15 days, and you need a
[02:42:03] management committee,
[02:42:06] there are those who are for and those who are against, you have to manage them,
[02:42:09] uh,
[02:42:11] some supporters too, who need to be managed because you don't play their son
[02:42:15] or their brother, etcetera. Uh, some
[02:42:18] journalists maybe, whom we have trouble situating, etcetera,
[02:42:22] etcetera, so it's a whole ensemble that needs to be managed, and
[02:42:26] it's stressful, huh. It's stressful, not only do we manage the
[02:42:29] group, but we have to manage what's outside, it's
[02:42:33] very difficult, that's why I say that there must always be
[02:42:37] a very homogeneous staff, and a
[02:42:40] staff particularly specialized in each in their
[02:42:44] own field, in the press, facing the press, facing the
[02:42:47] public, facing the leaders, and
[02:42:50] then the main coach only has the group to manage and
[02:42:54] to, how shall I say, to...
[02:42:58] let them play on the field and then wait for the results of that
[02:43:02] group, but it's not easy, it's not easy in the
[02:43:06] current circumstances, or maybe in the circumstances in which
[02:43:09] Karim worked, he talks about it because it wasn't at all structured like
[02:43:13] it is now. You know, another very, very important point that I would like to dwell
[02:43:17] on a bit, is that we talked a little bit behind the scenes,
[02:43:20] it's uh, the lack of precision
[02:43:23] in player statistics, like for example, earlier we were told
[02:43:27] about the number of national team selections with the number of goals scored, and he told
[02:43:31] me it's not 100% accurate. Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes, it's not
[02:43:35] accurate at all. Uh,
[02:43:38] is it a question of archives, are these archives that have been lost and all that?
[02:43:42] Uh,
[02:43:45] this is the case of one of my coaches, my ex-coach Hamjar, who
[02:43:49] is called Messoudi Mohamed. Fortunately, fortunately, he had
[02:43:53] kept newspaper clippings, he had played quite a few
[02:43:56] matches in the national team, and it's thanks to these newspapers
[02:44:00] and these newspaper clippings that I was able to get him his international
[02:44:03] card. Uh, despite
[02:44:06] the fact that there was nothing, despite the good will of
[02:44:10] my friend Horre and Fergani, to whom I wish a good recovery,
[02:44:14] they searched but found nothing. It was only after having delivered the
[02:44:17] newspaper clippings that they realized that indeed, the guy
[02:44:21] was an international. So the archive stuff, well,
[02:44:25] now I think that now with the, no, I even think with
[02:44:27] digitalization it's easier, it's easier, but
[02:44:31] like back then, as you said earlier, Mr. Maroc, back then everything was on
[02:44:35] paper, everything on paper. Well, today, what was needed was what we call an
[02:44:38] entry, to put everything in order and digitalize all that. Is there
[02:44:42] work that has been done with more in-depth research,
[02:44:46] or even getting closer to the people concerned for those who are
[02:44:49] alive, of course, and perhaps to improve
[02:44:53] a little bit this lack, and I don't
[02:44:56] know because I realized that finally they
[02:45:00] only have the broad outlines. Yes, if we type
[02:45:03] today the clubs we coached, etc., I don't think they
[02:45:07] appear, yeah. And unfortunately, several players suffered from
[02:45:11] that. There's a match too.
[02:45:14] Fortunately, fortunately, NTV
[02:45:17] sent a cameraman with us, with a director,
[02:45:21] we played at
[02:45:24] Sudan and in Sudan had
[02:45:27] finished if I remember correctly 1-1 or 2-2 there was Djadawi who
[02:45:31] played at the time there was Gam too and at one point
[02:45:34] Gam was wearing number 6 he
[02:45:37] had a scrum between Sudanese and Algerian players
[02:45:41] they fell to the ground and I
[02:45:45] was taking my little bottle
[02:45:48] of water on the sideline
[02:45:51] when it all cleared up the Sudanese players said number nine instead
[02:45:55] of saying number six they said number nine because the
[02:45:58] referee didn't see if it was number 6 or number 9 because it's written the same way
[02:46:02] except that and from there I was
[02:46:05] suspended fortunately our cameramen
[02:46:09] and all that they brought that out to show you
[02:46:11] the importance of filming a match they brought out
[02:46:15] that film they went to Geneva they said no
[02:46:18] sir the referee
[02:46:21] number this is not number 9 at all number 9 is
[02:46:26] water. and that's where I was cleared, it's
[02:46:29] true that right now with new technologies, VAR and
[02:46:33] so on, we see that today we can have much more
[02:46:36] precision in the refereeing of a match, but it's true that at the time
[02:46:39] maybe... among the greatest moments in football like Maradona's hand of God, well it's true that today
[02:46:42] that could never happen
[02:46:46] happen, yeah yeah but these
[02:46:50] are the means that we use well I know very well that here for
[02:46:54] example in Oran or Algiers to put
[02:46:57] trucks like we see them to make available for
[02:47:01] this match and put cameras practically in all the
[02:47:06] impossible huh well now he has a little more means.
[02:47:10] more possibilities and fortunately, huh, but
[02:47:13] otherwise we used to work like that, yeah but how many players suffered from that,
[02:47:17] yeah and how many players suffered from injustice
[02:47:21] exactly
[02:47:23] and others took advantage of that yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly in
[02:47:27] Africa in Africa we used to play there was nothing nothing nothing at
[02:47:31] all especially since African football is recognized, well it's known
[02:47:34] for its it was tough it was tough from all
[02:47:38] points of view climatically
[02:47:42] publicly
[02:47:45] même physique, même celui qui venait nous chercher qui nous ramenait le
[02:47:48] bus pour nous emmener jouer vers tel ou tel terrain, on
[02:47:52] était à sa mercie hein, il nous faisait rouler pendant une heure au lieu de nous faire rouler
[02:47:56] pendant un quart d'heure avec toute la chaleur et tout ça ça ça mettait les
[02:48:00] nerfs en ébullition déjà vous arrivez au st on est
[02:48:04] déjà sur les nervesquinté
[02:48:06] esquinté non c'est c'est c'est très dur aujourd'hui dans la
[02:48:10] possibilité d'atterrir avec un avion directement dans la
[02:48:13] ville, les terrains ils sont quand même euh d'une
[02:48:17] importance incroyable parce queils sont ils ont tous été facilités,
[02:48:20] les terrains d'entraînement sont à l'approche, donc ça
[02:48:24] il a une facilité, nous on n'a pas connu ça, en fait la question
[02:48:28] que beaucoup se de nos téléspectateurs se posent en ce moment, c'est
[02:48:31] que pourquoi malgré toutes ces conditions-là et l'équipe
[02:48:35] d'algérie à l'époque était beaucoup plus performante que les générations qui
[02:48:39] ont suivi après. qui avait des conditions plus
[02:48:41] favorables? ben peut-être c'est une question de
[02:48:45] sans sans toucher un petit peu l'amour de de de de ces
[02:48:48] générations qui sont venues après question de qualité aussi
[02:48:51] hein il a la qualité et puis il y avait
[02:48:55] disons cet amour et puis cette envie de de gagner les
[02:48:58] matchs et n'oubliez pas une chose c'est qu'à l'époque il y
[02:49:02] avait que deux équipes nationales qui se all qualifier pour une coupe du monde vous
[02:49:06] voyez l'ampleur de la difficulté que qu'on rencontrait.
[02:49:10] tout le tous les pays d'Afrique voulaient participer à cette coupe du monde et
[02:49:14] pour arriver il fallait cavacher dur hein très dur même très dur
[02:49:17] très dur alors une brève question euh pour finir monsieur
[02:49:21] ben salah et monsieur maroc c'est une question pour vous deux euh pour nos
[02:49:25] jeunes téléspectateurs qui nous regarde aujourd'hui et qui euh voudrait aussi se
[02:49:28] lancer et se professional se professionnaliser pardon dans
[02:49:32] le dans le milieu footballistique quel
[02:49:35] conseil quel précieux conseil vous pouvez donner euh pour tenir et pour
[02:49:39] persévérer dans ce milieu,
[02:49:42] on va commencer par vous, monsieur, on passe par vous, monsieur,
[02:49:45] euh, n'est pas, n'est pas un professionnel qui veut,
[02:49:49] d'une, il faut avoir les qualités en
[02:49:51] 35, et puis
[02:49:53] euh,
[02:49:56] assimiler pas mal de trucs sur le plan
[02:49:59] pédagogique, sur le plan tactique, sur le plan technique, il faut avoir les
[02:50:02] qualités pour ça, il faut avoir les qualité, et puis avoir un une hygiène
[02:50:06] de vie assez quand même très saine, très saine.
[02:50:10] sinon vous passez à côté, c'est vrai que malheureusement certains joueurs ont souffert de ça parce qu'ils
[02:50:13] étaient pas assez disciplinés, bien sûr, bien sûr, c'est tout un
[02:50:17] équilibre, alors c'est c'est un mode de vie très strict, très strict,
[02:50:20] disons a7 même dans un sens, on on on on va
[02:50:24] pas se veiller des journées entière
[02:50:28] lendemain arriver à l'entraînement ou un match, ça c'est sûr qu'il aura des
[02:50:31] blessures, ça c'est sûr que ça va casser un petit peu
[02:50:34] l'évolution normale d'une carrière d'un joueur, ouais mais
[02:50:38] comment expliquer par contre? était
[02:50:48] pas très pas du tout discipliné dans dans le sport et qui pourtant réalisait des
[02:50:51] résultats extraordinaires comme Maradona par
[02:50:54] exemple qui avait qui avait une vie de débauche on va dire oui
[02:50:58] oui c'est ça mais pardon je coupe la la
[02:51:02] parole à page c'est
[02:51:05] c'est des c'est des cas a a
[02:51:08] vu par exemple des gens qui sont fumé par exemple, il leur
[02:51:12] arrive absolument rien toute leur vie, ils peuvent fumer de deux paquets de
[02:51:16] cigarettes par jour et rien ne leur arrive et des gens qui qui
[02:51:19] n'ont pas fumé et puis qu'ils ont juste le ressenti au
[02:51:22] travers de et et malheureusement ils
[02:51:25] tombe malade alors ça veut dire que dans le dans le football a tous une
[02:51:29] comment dire une euh une hygiène
[02:51:33] de vie qui est différente des uns et des autres pour réussir un petit peu
[02:51:36] dans le football il faut aussi accompagner au niveau
[02:51:40] nutritionnisme, pratiquement avoir une hygiène de vie qui est
[02:51:43] différente, ça c'est pour aider, ça veut pas dire que
[02:51:47] c'est quelque chose qui parce qu'on arrive à la défayance où il a des gens ils
[02:51:51] peuvent manger ce qu'ils veulent.
[02:51:53] mais ça ça ça peut les aider dans la dans dans une carrière
[02:51:57] oui surtout quand on parle de 90 minutes de de sport
[02:52:01] intensif il pasent courir donc il faut tenir il faut tenir il a un
[02:52:05] exemple qui est mondial qui est
[02:52:08] vraiment quelque chose qu'on peut vraiment copier
[02:52:13] le le portugais Cristiano
[02:52:16] Ronaldo
[02:52:18] vous pouvez pas lui parler de de quoi que ce soit sans avoir étudié euh
[02:52:22] véritablement sa nutrition, euh son
[02:52:25] sommeil, il est très assidu, il est très assidu là-dessus, c'est un
[02:52:29] exemple, oui oui, c'est un exemple, mais un exemple de de de haut niveau,
[02:52:32] alors pour percer et puis rester à un certain âge et au plus haut niveau, et
[02:52:36] ben voilà, ouais ouais ouais, au fait ma
[02:52:39] question c'était par rapport à certains joueurs comme George Best
[02:52:42] par exemple qui
[02:52:44] lui,
[02:52:48] moi personnellement.
[02:52:53] et voilà voilà justement il faisait la tournée des
[02:52:56] lendemain et qui pourtant était une bête une bête
[02:53:00] stable donc c'est pour ça que je tenais à vous poser cette
[02:53:03] question est-ce que par exemple le la
[02:53:06] discipline est suffisante ou il a quand même il faut il faut avoir le ce
[02:53:10] quelque chose qui à
[02:53:13] l'époque à l'époque celui qui avait cette discipline là percait un
[02:53:17] peu plus facilement dans le sens où ça l'a aidé j'ai pas dit
[02:53:20] qu'il avait à réussir mais ça l'a aidé hein parce que il évitait
[02:53:24] les blessures, il évitait donc parce qu'il avait une hygiène euh dans le monde
[02:53:28] professionnel, il est pas question de voir les choses différemment que
[02:53:32] d'avoir cette hygiène, hygiène, je parle alimentaire, hygiène de
[02:53:36] vie, avoir un environnement et un
[02:53:38] cadre propice à sa carrière, même son
[02:53:42] épouse elle doit elle doit comment dire épouser
[02:53:45] la carrière de de son mari pour pouvoir réussir et
[02:53:49] ici bon c'est peut-être vu différemment pour certains... un
[02:53:52] élément qui ne réussissent pas parce qu'ils n'ont pas tous ces
[02:53:55] éléments qui sont sur rail absolument ab ouais alors maintenant pour
[02:53:59] revenir il a aussi quelque chose à ajouter en ce qui concerne cette
[02:54:03] carrière qu'on doit gérer je pense
[02:54:06] que le niveau d'éducation et et et
[02:54:09] le niveau culturel et intellectuel il joue
[02:54:12] beaucoup il joue beaucoup il joue beaucoup parce
[02:54:15] que je sais pas moi il va il va
[02:54:18] s'intéresser à à lire des trucs qui concernent
[02:54:21] l'alimentation comme dit Karim. la nutrition, la
[02:54:24] récupération, comment elle doit se faire etc et cetera, ça ça rentre
[02:54:27] dans dans l'éducation et dans la culture, donc il faut avoir un
[02:54:31] niveau d'instruction assez intéressant, je souhaite ça à tous nos
[02:54:34] joueurs, et sur ces belles paroles je
[02:54:36] vous dis merci beaucoup, je vous en prie, c'est la moindre des
[02:54:40] choses, à bientôt inchallah, merci beaucoup, merci beaucoup, ce fait passionnant d'échanger avec vous,
[02:54:44] monsieur, ah vraiment ça nous fait plaisir hein, vraiment
[02:54:48] vraiment le plaisir, le plaisir est pour nous, on tenait absolument à vous rencontrer
[02:54:52] aujourd'hui. pour partager un café avec vous, parler un peu de vos expériences de
[02:54:55] votre expertise que vous avez pu acquérir au fil du temps dans
[02:54:59] le domaine footballistiquement
[02:55:03] et puis le bonjour à tous les téléspectateurs de canal
[02:55:06] canal algérie, merci à vous, merci à Canal Algérie,
[02:55:09] merci aussi à vous chers téléspectateurs de nous avoir suivi jusqu'au bout, c'est déjà la fin de cette
[02:55:13] émission, j'espère qu'elle vous a plu, on se retrouve dans un nouveau numéro avec un
[02:55:17] nouvel invité, d'ici là prenez bien soin de vous et quant à moi je vous dis à très bientôt, au
[02:55:21] revoir.
[02:56:11] Friends of the evening, good evening, happy to meet
[02:56:14] you, so summer in music, it's your
[02:56:17] appointment during the summer season, we
[02:56:21] are at...
[02:56:33] I heard your name, my beloved, destiny threw
[02:56:36] me into cold and strange arms
[02:56:39] Why did your love forget me and wither
[02:56:42] my glory? It is better to cry, what
[02:56:45] is the use of regret?
[02:56:47] Enough of my
[02:56:51] words, you spoke
[02:56:53] the words
[02:56:55] When I was with you, I was always oppressed My life was
[02:56:58] turning backward It passed
[02:57:01] into darkness I do not regret leaving you
[02:58:08] Welcome to Azidad Mall Grand
[02:58:10] Mostaganem Your new destination
[02:58:13] for shopping
[02:58:15] Discover the most famous local and international brands
[02:58:19] and enjoy a shopping experience that combines quality
[02:58:23] and everything you need And here begins
[02:58:26] the fun Modern play areas on a large
[02:58:30] space equipped with the latest games
[02:58:33] and equipment. For children
[02:58:37] and adults to live moments full of excitement
[02:58:40] and fun
[02:58:43] And the experience continues with cinema halls
[02:58:47] sports areas and integrated services
[02:58:49] in addition to a selection of restaurants
[02:58:53] and cafes in a sophisticated family atmosphere
[02:58:56] Azidad Mall Grand Mostaganem arrive at failure or there are people they
[02:58:59] where shopping begins and the fun
[02:59:01] continues.
[02:59:17] Among the birds, the dove chose
[02:59:20] I left the mothers of beauty and the singer
[02:59:23] I adorn the moon The messenger with them
[02:59:27] the dove I left the peacock not
[02:59:31] the wings
[02:59:36] The messenger moon is beautiful and majestic
[02:59:40] They suit the stations with them something changes
[02:59:43] If the evil is gone, there will be no value left
[02:59:46] The shame
[02:59:49] the good
[02:59:53] The courage of the night flyer Oh night
[02:59:57] oh night We always live in
[03:00:00] darkness.
[03:00:08] When they change, change
[03:00:11] Oh the treacherous have
[03:00:14] no word
[03:00:25] The sky turns and the house
[03:00:28] is long
[03:00:30] The
[03:00:37] turns and the back is long
[03:00:39] The situation
[03:00:43] turns and the back is long He who
[03:00:46] plants oleander reaps
[03:00:48] women
[03:00:51] The heart is blood and the flesh
[03:00:54] as stone There is no bone in a person's
[03:00:58] saliva