CANALCATORCE — broadcast 20260806 033000 UTC 476 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:38] we are back on "Punto de Referencia" and we are here talking with the Secretary of the Environment, [00:00:42] Alicia Bárcena. Madam Secretary, we are talking [00:00:45] about an effort that will take place during one day, a [00:00:49] day, which is also planned to be repeated once a year [00:00:53] starting in 2026, but I think [00:00:55] it is important, this takes place within the framework of a much broader effort [00:00:59] a consensus from the population that... has to do with the "Sembrando Vida" program, here we are talking about [00:01:02] 6.6 million trees, but there is a goal [00:01:06] of 1,500 million trees and plants by [00:01:10] 2030, right? [00:01:13] Yes, of course, what we want is for the country to be able to [00:01:16] recover to a certain extent lost ground, right? [00:01:20] We are deforesting annually around [00:01:24] 200,000 hectares a year and that is a huge figure, right? [00:01:28] And we have significant losses. also due to forest fires, [00:01:31] that is, this year alone we have almost [00:01:34] 846,000 hectares affected by fires [00:01:37] also illegal logging which has also affected us [00:01:40] a lot in the country and that is why this effort is so [00:01:43] important and what we want to achieve is to [00:01:47] recover the water cycle together [00:01:49] cannibalism was not easy, what with the forests, with the jungles, eh, the mangroves [00:01:52] etc., protect and regenerate the soils and also strengthen [00:01:56] the forest economy because Mexico, for example, is [00:02:00] importing boards, when we could produce them in [00:02:03] Mexico with communities that are very important, it must [00:02:07] be said that 60% of forest [00:02:10] ecosystems are ejidal or [00:02:14] communal or social right? And that is why the participation of [00:02:17] communities is so important and this [00:02:20] day implies the participation not only of the [00:02:23] state governments, but of course of the [00:02:26] ejidatarios, of the agrarian nuclei in general, [00:02:30] of the municipalities, of all the states and of the federation [00:02:34] where Sader, Conafor, Semarnat are, but [00:02:37] also Sedena, Semar and this and the [00:02:41] National Commission of Natural Protected Areas, because we will be in [00:02:45] the 50 natural protected [00:02:48] Today, areas this Sunday as well, so what [00:02:50] we want is to really achieve a national [00:02:53] effort, number one, number two, that it be [00:02:57] permanent throughout the year, that is, obviously. we are in the rainy season [00:03:01] and that helps these plants to [00:03:04] survive, but the idea is that reforestation be [00:03:08] continuous and that local populations help us [00:03:11] to take care of what is planted this Sunday, Madam Secretary, and in that [00:03:14] sense, to say goodbye, how do we all and all of us contribute from where [00:03:17] we can contribute, there are many comments on social networks that precisely [00:03:21] ask us that question and that also join in a very important way, even already [00:03:25] supporting from now, [00:03:27] tomorrow we are going to publish and this [00:03:31] question is very important, Luisa, thank you very much, we want [00:03:34] people to participate from wherever they are, to [00:03:39] the most vulnerable sectors of plant, to join this great effort and we have a [00:03:43] page that tomorrow will be [00:03:46] a very important moment that will be called [00:03:50] "jornadanacionaldereforestación.gov.mx", [00:03:52] it will be a microsite where [00:03:55] we will put the specific places where... in each [00:03:58] state, these polygons that we have chosen will be reforested [00:04:02] where the governors will be, but there will also be other indicated [00:04:06] sites where the planters of the "Sembrando Vida" program will be, [00:04:10] those from Conafor, those from Conamp, for example, here in the Valley of [00:04:13] Mexico we will have a very important site in Texcoco [00:04:17] where the protected natural area will be [00:04:20] where people are very welcome in Lake [00:04:23] Texcoco which has been so rescued there we want [00:04:26] to extensively reforest. but also Mexico City has [00:04:30] chosen places, a very beautiful place and I think [00:04:34] hopefully all citizens will be able to accompany us, [00:04:37] in the microsite the specific place will be indicated, [00:04:41] state by state also where they can [00:04:45] join because that is where there will be the plants that they can [00:04:48] precisely use, well, here we will give all the information about that [00:04:52] microsite, Madam Secretary, there is the invitation, thank you very [00:04:55] much for these minutes for the audience to inform about this that is so [00:04:59] important. in point of reference and [00:05:02] to call on all citizens, this is a citizen [00:05:06] act and I thank President Claudia Sheinbaum for [00:05:10] supporting us in this great reforestation and [00:05:13] restoration exercise, thank you very much to both, Luisa and [00:05:16] Azul, thank you very much, Madam Secretary, good evening, [00:05:20] hug, there is the information, remember from now on write down [00:05:24] jornadanacionaldereforestación.gov.mx [00:05:27] to follow up and we will be informing, let's see, let's go with [00:05:30] more, because Mexico won an international arbitration [00:05:33] related to a debt of TV Azteca with two investment funds in [00:05:37] New York, you surely remember these investment funds, Cyrus Capital [00:05:40] Partners and Contrarian Capital. management that claimed more than [00:05:44] 219 million dollars, which they assure Ricardo [00:05:47] Salinas Pliego's company did not pay. In addition, they accused that a [00:05:51] resolution by a judge in Mexico City left them without this [00:05:54] possibility of collecting that money, for which [00:05:57] they held the Mexican state responsible and took this case to [00:06:01] an international tribunal. Now, let's not forget that this conflict [00:06:04] began in 2017 when TV Azteca issued debt [00:06:08] bonds to obtain financing. The two [00:06:11] funds, these funds, bought these bonds, but then [00:06:14] denounced that the company did not pay, fulfilled these payments, [00:06:18] however, the International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes [00:06:22] known as ICSID, ruled in favor of the Mexican government and [00:06:25] concluded that it is a conflict between private parties, that is, the [00:06:29] debt can still be claimed from the company and [00:06:33] the Mexican state has no responsibility for that [00:06:37] debt. Let's go now to more economic matters, [00:06:41] you know that there is nothing more than to look daily at the price of a barrel [00:06:44] of oil to detect this enormous speculation that surrounds [00:06:48] that market within the framework, of course, of the war of the United States against [00:06:51] Iran, it is a situation that has affected entire [00:06:54] economies around the world, while there are other companies that are [00:06:58] becoming millionaires, here we tell you the story and explain [00:07:02] why. [00:07:04] So far this year, the price of oil in global markets suffered the [00:07:08] impact of the war between the United States and Israel against Iran, which blocked the [00:07:11] distribution of around 20% of the oil consumed [00:07:15] in the world, causing the biggest hydrocarbon [00:07:19] distribution crisis in history. With less [00:07:21] oil available in the global market, its price increased [00:07:25] and, consequently, the profits of oil companies [00:07:29] doubled. The eight largest oil companies in the world [00:07:32] made profits of more than 90 billion dollars in just [00:07:36] three months, practically double their profits obtained in the [00:07:40] same period a year ago. Saudi Aramco, BP, [00:07:44] Shell, Equinor, Total Energies, Eni, Chevron [00:07:47] and Exxon Mobil together obtained profits of [00:07:51] $700,000 every minute. The [00:07:54] company that benefited most from the conflict, despite suffering [00:07:58] drone and missile attacks on some of its plants, was the [00:08:02] Saudi oil company Aramco, with a 34% [00:08:05] increase in its profits during the first 3 months of the [00:08:08] year, which is equivalent to more than 33 million dollars. [00:08:13] The Dutch company Shell reported that in the same quarter it obtained [00:08:16] profits of 9.8 billion dollars, [00:08:20] making it the second most lucrative quarter in its long [00:08:23] history. The American companies Chevron and Exxon [00:08:26] Mobil, for their part, obtained 12 and 14 [00:08:30] million respectively in the same period. Chevron [00:08:34] practically quintupled its profits. War [00:08:37] is terrible in its human costs, but, as the [00:08:41] saying goes, it is also an excellent business for a [00:08:44] few. Rodrigo de la Vega, point of [00:08:47] reference. [00:08:51] Well, we are very, very happy here because Carolina [00:08:55] Hernández Calvario, economist and researcher from [00:08:58] UAM-Iztapalapa, who was in China, is back with us. You remember that she has been sharing [00:09:02] reflections with us, but now she is [00:09:04] here. [00:09:12] she will return, of course, to share with the [00:09:15] audience increasingly profound and calmer [00:09:19] and calmer reflections, which is often needed, right? We are always at [00:09:23] such an accelerated pace, but well, Carolina, let's start [00:09:26] here, we were seeing, there are two [00:09:30] big situations that at this moment, I mean there are more, but [00:09:33] let me talk about these two that are generating economic distortions [00:09:37] worldwide, on the one hand the issue of oil [00:09:40] price speculation, we are talking about [00:09:43] that they have been frankly affected by the issue of Hormuz [00:09:46] and eh and by the war and the other is that of tariffs, [00:09:50] there is a second wave of tariffs from the United States, [00:09:54] there is already a response from China, in short, [00:09:57] I would like you to put us a little e in the [00:10:01] clarity of saying where we are in this panorama, [00:10:04] well, look, as you put it, it is very interesting [00:10:08] because we are used to understanding geopolitics [00:10:12] as... these barriers to the entry of certain products affecting [00:10:15] trade, but the extreme of geoeconomics [00:10:19] is now expressed in war, in this war [00:10:22] that has open economic [00:10:26] purposes, in fact I was trying to remember what [00:10:30] was the justification for starting the war with Iran [00:10:34] and it was a regime change, then it moved precisely to [00:10:38] this narrative of nuclear weapons, now we don't know [00:10:41] and what we see is a series of speculation that is [00:10:44] affecting of course practically half the [00:10:48] world and is benefiting the companies as was shown in the [00:10:52] report, so making the analysis of [00:10:56] the price of oil takes us to two levels, the first level is [00:11:00] that of the real economy and the second that of [00:11:02] speculation, that of the real economy expressed in the [00:11:06] deterioration of the infrastructure that is affecting supply and that [00:11:09] joins the blockade in Hormuz, which we are [00:11:13] talking about nearly a fifth of the world's [00:11:16] oil, but the speculation is also [00:11:19] extremely serious, why, because we have to [00:11:22] understand that oil prices [00:11:25] are not only governed by supply and [00:11:29] demand, that is, between producers and buyers, but also these [00:11:33] speculators who are making bets on [00:11:36] future prices, so [00:11:39] there is a very select group of [00:11:42] people who unfortunately are benefiting from the war, [00:11:46] in economics there is a very tragic phrase, [00:11:49] but which is now being proven, that when the cannons [00:11:53] sound, money moves before [00:11:56] the tanks, right? And that [00:12:00] is seen by all this financial speculation, [00:12:03] that is, the market of real products [00:12:07] only represents a fraction, unfortunately minimal, of [00:12:10] all this speculation that there is in the price [00:12:13] of a good that has to be seen [00:12:17] as a human right and not as a commodity of [00:12:20] speculation that benefits not only these large companies that [00:12:23] obtain profits due to the [00:12:27] increase in the price of their products due to the [00:12:31] speculation that they themselves are [00:12:34] generating, but also by investment funds, also by [00:12:38] banks that are selling uncertainty, uncertainty [00:12:42] bonds and are also generating these [00:12:44] derivatives eh that come from [00:12:47] volatility, but we also see that there are a [00:12:50] series of eh facts that make [00:12:54] the economic policy of the United States [00:12:57] questionable, even by the Nobel Prize winner in economics, [00:13:00] Krugman, who openly tells you, this is [00:13:03] treason, because a suspicion of speculation [00:13:06] due to the prices due to the announcements made by the [00:13:10] president of the United States has been demonstrated, which is now [00:13:14] even proven, of course, so that is a betrayal of the [00:13:17] very people of the United States, affecting [00:13:20] consumers, consumers [00:13:24] worldwide, so [00:13:27] this situation is accompanied by the [00:13:30] tension that continues to increase in [00:13:33] terms of tariffs and that, as you already mentioned, there is a response from [00:13:37] China, but we can see there that the response [00:13:41] is much more subtle, why, because it is [00:13:44] not eh a machete blow but with [00:13:47] a scalpel, there are six companies that are [00:13:50] linked and justified with a policy contrary to the [00:13:53] security of... China and [00:13:56] restrictions are being placed on the [00:14:00] exports of products that contribute to the [00:14:04] maintenance and technological reinforcement of drones that [00:14:07] had previously been sanctioned [00:14:10] in December 2025 by the United States, [00:14:14] so there are policies and a diplomacy [00:14:17] that tells you that it is with much more detail [00:14:21] and that is what needs to be done when you have real [00:14:25] diplomacy and we see the United States diplomacy [00:14:28] cabinet and it is far from benefiting collective [00:14:32] interests, well China has done well, now [00:14:35] tell us what you saw there, well, [00:14:38] look, it's a trip that I took, a [00:14:41] trip that, without exaggeration, [00:14:45] I do come with a future perspective that is [00:14:48] quite [00:14:50] eh quite excited to analyze because it is a real [00:14:54] alternative. That is, China is a country that is [00:14:57] building its own world, we [00:15:00] are living in a world built [00:15:03] precisely by the United States and its European [00:15:06] antecedents, as a reference, right? As a reference, but we realize [00:15:10] that in this geo-economic [00:15:13] and geopolitical order there are alternatives [00:15:17] and it made me reflect a lot with our country [00:15:20] and also look at the conditions we have [00:15:24] here in... Mexico, China is growing in a [00:15:27] way that is linked with other countries through the [00:15:31] Silk Road and I remembered where our [00:15:34] Indo-American routes are that were part of this. [00:15:37] recovery, well, historical, of empowering [00:15:40] different markets, the hegemony that was implemented from [00:15:44] the 20th century, so it is a country [00:15:47] that gives much to analyze [00:15:50] here in the West, [00:15:53] because it has a security policy that is [00:15:56] palpable due to the political centrality it manages, but with [00:16:00] economic planning and with [00:16:03] palpable growth results. and that [00:16:06] is what is also putting this world [00:16:10] order at stake, which is already [00:16:13] obsolete, which was the one that was erected in the 20th century, [00:16:17] so it is very important that the [00:16:20] audience and that we here are reflecting on these [00:16:23] alternatives, especially if we are also in a process [00:16:27] of eh transformation also of [00:16:30] ties with other countries, for example, the case of [00:16:34] Brazil in energy matters is very [00:16:37] attractive and important to promote, because it tells us about [00:16:41] an energy strategy from state [00:16:44] platforms expressed in companies [00:16:47] that are precisely energy [00:16:50] producers, but that are under a logic [00:16:54] of public policy for the benefit of the [00:16:57] population, so these aspects of the international [00:17:00] order are fundamental to [00:17:03] avoid these speculative risks that as [00:17:15] but here a few are making fortunes at the expense of humanity's well-being, you mentioned this memorandum of [00:17:19] understanding between Pemex and Petrobras that precisely [00:17:22] aims to build this [00:17:25] self-sufficiency where we do not depend on prices from other [00:17:28] places, and we have this South-South cooperation that is [00:17:31] so important not just normally. [00:17:34] that we have well, it seems inherently [00:17:37] in our development, yes, well, we are where we are too, [00:17:40] dear Caro, always, always a pleasure to have [00:17:44] you and we will see you next Wednesday already with [00:17:47] you here, well, [00:17:51] there is this information and remember [00:17:52] this, we don't always need to import [00:17:55] realities, we can build our own, we told you that President [00:17:58] Claudia received precisely at the National Palace [00:18:02] the cardinal. Secretary of State of the [00:18:05] Vatican. At the meeting, topics such as the first [00:18:09] encyclical of Pope Leo XIV were discussed, where he reflects on the [00:18:12] ethical criteria in the use of artificial intelligence, this within the framework of the [00:18:16] national discussion on the regulation of social [00:18:20] networks and artificial intelligence in schools. [00:18:25] eh, the Pope also [00:18:28] represents a vision [00:18:32] of a debate that we have been having here [00:18:36] related to digital [00:18:39] platforms and artificial intelligence, [00:18:42] the encyclical that he published a few months [00:18:46] ago is a [00:18:50] worldwide reference for [00:18:53] a debate about who controls these [00:18:56] platforms, who defines the [00:18:59] content, how [00:19:03] are the algorithms designed? [00:19:07] Where are we going as humanity, they also [00:19:11] talked about the calls the pontiff has made for peace and closeness to [00:19:17] the population, previously the president reiterated the invitation for Pope [00:19:20] Leo XIV to visit our [00:19:23] country, [00:19:26] and amid a new escalation in arrests [00:19:29] by ICE, agents of the Immigration and Customs [00:19:32] Enforcement eh once again broke their record for arrests by [00:19:36] reaching nearly 51,000 people in July, the highest [00:19:40] monthly figure since the creation of DHS. [00:19:44] In June, this figure, which was already very high, was around [00:19:47] 43,000 arrests. Last [00:19:50] month, operations also reached airports, where more than 30 people [00:19:53] were arrested and in that context, Mark Wayne [00:19:57] Milin boasted about carrying out 4,200 arrests daily and [00:20:01] denied that deportations are being [00:20:03] stopped. Let's go to Latin American issues because the [00:20:07] government of Brazil decided to withdraw its ambassador to Argentina, Guillermo [00:20:10] Raymondi. This comes as a response to the statements and insults of the Argentine [00:20:14] president Javier Milei against his Brazilian counterpart Luiz Inácio Lula [00:20:18] da Silva. This precisely [00:20:21] generated a moment where diplomatic relations are being reduced to [00:20:25] chargés d'affaires in their respective embassies, that's where it's [00:20:28] staying. [00:20:30] From our side there will be no diplomatic action in response [00:20:34] eh to what Brazil does. Brazil has every [00:20:37] right to make the decisions it wants, we will continue [00:20:41] to maintain relations at the level [00:20:44] that eh Brazil [00:20:47] decides, remember that on July [00:20:50] 27th, Milei attended an event in Sao Paulo to support the [00:20:54] far-right presidential candidate Flavio [00:20:57] Bolsonaro, in an open intervention in Brazil's internal [00:21:00] affairs, remember, he is Jair Bolsonaro's son, let's see, for now diplomatic [00:21:04] relations between Brazil and Argentina, which share a border and [00:21:08] also form part of the Southern Common Market Mercosur, are at [00:21:12] perhaps the lowest point in their recent [00:21:15] history. [00:21:17] And now we go to Gaza amidst a... that has practically become [00:21:21] a dead letter, the support of the US public opinion for [00:21:24] Israel continues to weaken, a [00:21:27] Pew Center survey revealed that unfavorable [00:21:30] public opinion among US citizens towards the Israeli [00:21:33] government increased to 62%, particularly towards its policy [00:21:36] with Gaza, compared to [00:21:38] 43% who supported it in 2022, [00:21:42] this after 2 years of genocide in Gaza. The [00:21:46] occupation does not even have [00:21:49] of Israel, with 62% disapproving it, [00:21:52] that is, the public discussion in the two [00:21:55] countries from which a large part of the current situation in [00:21:59] the Middle East is decided, do not look favorably on Netanyahu's [00:22:03] policy, today a fugitive from the International Criminal Court for crimes [00:22:06] against humanity, it is that after Gaza has been practically [00:22:10] devastated, the supposed truce signed a [00:22:13] year ago with the consent of the Donald [00:22:16] Trump administration has resulted in soldiers [00:22:20] stationed in Gaza, the advance in the occupation of areas of the West [00:22:23] Bank by Israeli settlers and bombing of civilian areas of [00:22:27] Palestinian territory and southern Lebanon. Since October, when the [00:22:30] supposed truce began, 1,255 civilians have died in constant [00:22:34] Israeli attacks. Since the beginning of the offensive in 2023, more [00:22:37] than 73,000 Palestinians have [00:22:41] died because of this country [00:22:42] and [00:22:46] we are going to completely change the tone, the FIFA [00:22:50] plot continues and there is a lot of desperation, but hands are already being forced, dear [00:22:53] Diego, hello, good evening Luisa Azul, eh, well yes, [00:22:57] good old Gianni Infantino continues to give us meat to talk [00:23:01] about a little and also kicking in vain, because today he went [00:23:05] to meet with the federations of the African continent to [00:23:08] make them a quite juicy proposal for them, but also [00:23:12] quite immoral, let's see a little what it was [00:23:14] about. [00:23:20] A weakened Gianni Infantino called an emergency meeting with [00:23:23] his inner circle and some of the representatives of the [00:23:27] main confederations. After the meeting held in [00:23:30] Morocco, FIFA published a statement in which they assure that the [00:23:34] president has the support of the hard core of the institution, [00:23:37] so they will not allow more criticism of his management. In addition, [00:23:41] they admitted to having made mistakes and apologized [00:23:45] for them. After this, the president of the Moroccan [00:23:48] Federation came out to... publicly support Infantino, the [00:23:52] striking thing is that he did so just a few hours after [00:23:56] a newspaper published that his country had been awarded the final of the [00:23:59] next World Cup that was originally to be held [00:24:03] at the Santiago Bernabéu stadium inTELEVISION NEWS TRANSCRIPT: Madrid, the [00:24:06] conditions were that both the first game of the [00:24:09] World Cup and the last, which are the two most important, the opening [00:24:13] game, and the final would [00:24:16] be played in Spain, also that [00:24:20] a semifinal and two quarterfinals would be played in Spain, this [00:24:24] was unchangeable. Morocco's support is important for [00:24:27] Infantino, as its president has a significant vote in the [00:24:30] African confederation, the second largest within the [00:24:34] organization. Earlier in the day, former Portuguese national team captain [00:24:38] Luis Figo expressed the urgency of changing [00:24:41] leadership within FIFA. In 2016, Figo [00:24:44] competed against Infantino for the presidency, although in the end [00:24:48] he ended up declining his favor. [00:24:50] Demands for a transformation reached Canadian Prime Minister Mark [00:24:54] Carney. I certainly have no confidence in Mr. [00:24:57] Infantino. After this, given what happened and [00:25:01] the nature of what happened. Carney's claim is not the only one among [00:25:05] recent host countries. In Mexico, the three cities [00:25:08] reported that they were not offered financial support, [00:25:12] unlike the U.S. state cities that are now demanding the [00:25:15] pending million dollars. Pressure grows as Infantino [00:25:19] receives. to leave [00:25:20] office [00:25:25] Diego Camacho, point of [00:25:26] reference, [00:25:31] the United States venues have not been paid here, this wasn't [00:25:34] even offered, they didn't even offer it, imagine, [00:25:38] so, well, but here we do support what Infantino says, [00:25:42] well, not us, not us, Mexican Football Federation, which you'll [00:25:45] tell us about tomorrow, tomorrow we'll tell you because the Mexican Football Federation is [00:25:49] involved in a big plot in which they disappeared the promotion, but that [00:25:53] will be tomorrow's topic, I think what is happening [00:25:57] exposes the problem in FIFA's governance, because today [00:26:00] Infantino is there, Blatter was there in his time, [00:26:04] Havelange was there, the same thing has happened, the problem is that the governance and the model [00:26:08] they have in FIFA just doesn't work, it's a model that lends itself to [00:26:11] bribes, that lends itself to corruption, that lends itself to [00:26:15] everything, because they simulate a democracy, no, that's what's at the [00:26:18] bottom of it, and as long as that doesn't change, isn't regulated, and they enjoy political [00:26:22] immunity, then this will keep happening, today [00:26:25] Matt Carne at least said something, right, uh, Blatter [00:26:29] fell when heads of state began to speak out against [00:26:33] him, it seems that's what they don't allow politics to get involved in, [00:26:35] well, let's see how this evolves, [00:26:39] Diego, indeed, many have raised their voices in one sense, [00:26:43] now we see this issue of Morocco and let's see what happens, for now [00:26:46] there's a lot of desperation and indeed a tremendous [00:26:50] , brutal corruption atmosphere, we're leaving, thank you very much for joining us at reference [00:26:54] point and we'll see you tomorrow at 9, we wish you a good rest today [00:26:58] and you too, thanks Azul, thanks, good night, good night, thanks [00:27:01] Diego. We have news from the 2024 Children's and [00:27:05] Youth Consultation. Let's go with our correspondent. Hello [00:27:09] Maria, share one of your opinions that there should be no violence on [00:27:12] the internet. Save rainwater for [00:27:15] schools. Have [00:27:18] clinics that attend to our mental health. The INEP [00:27:21] promotes our opinions so that they can be heard by the [00:27:25] authorities. Consult the results. See [00:27:28] you at the 2027 consultation. INE. [00:28:05] I think we are witnessing a new episode in [00:28:08] football, how football is being instrumentalized is what seems [00:28:12] dangerous [00:28:12] to me. [00:28:22] Yes, I understand, Jani, yes I [00:28:25] understand, you brought money, you brought [00:28:28] money, but your image is terrible. [00:29:54] Next, the secrets of [00:29:57] corruption. [00:30:03] Classification A for all audiences.