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[00:00:00] 500 million cubic feet daily, this is very,
[00:00:03] very important, a part
[00:00:06] that could help with
[00:00:13] to forget and even though it may
[00:00:17] be something we saw that is very rare in the United
[00:00:20] States, but in Mexico, that is what we have
[00:00:23] experienced in the 70 years of the national oil
[00:00:27] industry, it is Pemex must... develop a plan
[00:00:30] to increase gas supply with conventional
[00:00:34] production from what we have experienced all the years of the national
[00:00:37] oil industry and avoid
[00:00:41] burning that resource in the oil fields, I
[00:00:44] believe that if we focus on this
[00:00:47] point, it is something that we could
[00:00:51] increase.
[00:00:53] Well, according to calculations, it
[00:00:57] is up to 2400 million cubic feet of natural
[00:01:00] gas with the elimination of
[00:01:04] before, it is necessary to start monitoring flaring in oil fields and greater activity in conventional fields
[00:01:08] Gómora, I am a research professor at that we still have in Mexico and
[00:01:11] in which areas? Well, here we saw it in
[00:01:14] Burgos, which has been the great development in Mexico in
[00:01:18] the conventional part in Tampico Misantla, which is
[00:01:22] another of the areas we have with great
[00:01:25] potential, Veracruz and the Southeast
[00:01:28] basins. The national production of
[00:01:32] these conventional fields can
[00:01:34] currently director of the Faculty of Engineering of reach up to 4700 million cubic feet
[00:01:43] these measures, dependence on imported natural gas can be reduced,
[00:01:47] but even with these and all
[00:01:50] the effort that can be made in all this, Mexico would
[00:01:54] not be able to achieve sovereignty. It
[00:01:58] is recommended, as I already mentioned, to increase electricity
[00:02:01] generation, renewable energy sources, two, implement national
[00:02:05] energy efficiency programs, eliminate natural
[00:02:08] gas flaring in oil fields. Those
[00:02:11] who know me, you will know
[00:02:15] that I have placed great emphasis on
[00:02:19] this, increasing natural gas production in
[00:02:22] conventional gas fields, next slide,
[00:02:26] with these measures, as we said, dependence on gas can be reduced.
[00:02:30] imported, but Mexico would not achieve
[00:02:33] sovereignty, because the
[00:02:36] base production we have, we see it is
[00:02:39] 49.5%,
[00:02:42] eh, we see that still with conventional
[00:02:45] production, sorry, it's not 45%, it's
[00:02:48] 25%, eh, with conventional
[00:02:52] production we would reach
[00:02:54] evidently 49.5%.
[00:02:56] If we look at it with efficiency. We would
[00:03:00] not reach this because we would still have
[00:03:04] to minimize surface impacts in imports, so we would still
[00:03:07] have to start
[00:03:10] still we must have
[00:03:13] greater efforts at
[00:03:16] the level of what we are going to do in
[00:03:18] Mexico and well, we will
[00:03:22] continue to expose to see what other efforts we can make, thank
[00:03:25] you very much.
[00:03:33] Good morning everyone, Madam President,
[00:03:37] the next slide please.
[00:03:40] Well, to continue with
[00:03:44] the decrease in imports and to contribute to the strengthening
[00:03:47] of energy sovereignty, this
[00:03:50] working group was tasked
[00:03:54] with reviewing the potential of the country's
[00:03:57] unconventional deposits. It
[00:04:00] was
[00:04:01] we recommend carrying out the drilling identified that the potential of natural gas from
[00:04:05] unconventional deposits is estimated at
[00:04:08] 141.5
[00:04:11] ecosystems that depend on million million cubic feet, which are
[00:04:13] mainly distributed in three basins: these are
[00:04:17] Burgos, Sabinas Burro Picachos and Tampico
[00:04:21] Misantla. It is very important to highlight
[00:04:24] that this potential, called prospective
[00:04:27] resource, must be evaluated
[00:04:30] to determine the actual
[00:04:39] of this work,
[00:04:41] aspects were considered that
[00:04:43] included social issues, the
[00:04:47] environment, technical aspects, and with respect to this
[00:04:51] last one, the minimization of the
[00:04:54] environmental footprint, the
[00:04:58] improvement of logistics,
[00:05:00] the best international practices, as well as the current
[00:05:04] regulations. In this sense, considering
[00:05:08] all these aspects, the Commission
[00:05:12] recommended where to carry out
[00:05:16] activities in unconventional deposits and where not. For
[00:05:20] environmental protection, social,
[00:05:22] biodiversity, and demographic density criteria, it should
[00:05:26] be considered to prohibit activities for the exploitation
[00:05:30] of unconventional natural gas deposits
[00:05:32] in the Tampico
[00:05:41] commission recommends continuing
[00:05:44] with the evaluation to determine the feasibility of developing
[00:05:48] unconventional natural gas deposits
[00:05:51] in two basins: in
[00:05:54] Sabinas Burro Picachos located in the states of
[00:05:58] Coahuila and Nuevo León, as well as in the Burgos
[00:06:01] basin in the northeast of Tamaulipas.
[00:06:14] Why don't you introduce yourself? Yes, I forgot to introduce myself at the beginning, my
[00:06:17] apologies, I am Paulina
[00:06:21] the Faculty of Engineering of UNAM, assigned to the
[00:06:24] Department of Petroleum Engineering and currently head of the Division of Engineering in
[00:06:37] with your permission, Madam President, it is an honor to be here and to fulfill
[00:06:41] this task. I will also introduce myself, I am Dr. José Antonio Hernández Esprío,
[00:06:47] UNAM, I am a geological engineer from the faculty and I have a
[00:06:50] doctorate in hydrogeology from the Complutense University of Madrid. My
[00:06:54] expertise is groundwater and aquifers, and I was a visiting
[00:06:57] researcher at the University of Texas in Austin, studying
[00:07:01] these issues of water management in hydraulic fracturing projects. Well,
[00:07:05] regarding the results we obtained
[00:07:08] in the four groups that have already been mentioned, the water group, the
[00:07:12] social and environmental impacts group, engineering
[00:07:15] and planning and foresight, we considered
[00:07:18] it important to determine a series of
[00:07:21] conditions to carry out the exploitation of unconventional
[00:07:25] natural gas deposits, which we will divide into
[00:07:28] different aspects. First of all, regarding some
[00:07:32] aspects recommended by the social and environmental impacts group
[00:07:35] in the area of population and territory,
[00:07:39] it is considered very important that a prior and informed
[00:07:42] consultation be carried out with the population in the areas of
[00:07:45] influence where this type of deposits is intended to be exploited, which has
[00:07:49] already been established. We recommend that it be in the Burgos basin and in the Sabinas
[00:07:53] Burro Picachos basin to have the information from the population
[00:07:56] and their opinion. It is also very important to develop local
[00:08:00] supply chains that can encourage new
[00:08:04] jobs at the local level. It
[00:08:07] is also essential to maintain different sources of work and economic
[00:08:11] activities present. And at all times it is very important
[00:08:16] the drilling of wells, macroperas are installed, vertical
[00:08:20] sections, horizontal sections are made, so there is a lot of
[00:08:23] surface movement and above all these effects must be minimized. In the
[00:08:26] environmental field, the following recommendations are
[00:08:30] determined: number one, and I will explain it later
[00:08:33] when I deal with the topic of water, it is necessary to guarantee
[00:08:37] above all the preservation of aquifers. This activity
[00:08:40] of hydraulic fracturing is an activity that involves significant
[00:08:44] volumes of water, and above all, it is necessary to preserve the aquifers
[00:08:48] that today are the most important source, especially in the north of
[00:08:52] the country, where surface water is quite scarce, it rains very little,
[00:08:55] the storage of aquifers is the main source of supply
[00:08:59] for human consumption, for agriculture, for livestock, and therefore it will
[00:09:03] be necessary to preserve water security in
[00:09:06] aquifers, particularly those that serve for human
[00:09:10] consumption, also those that
[00:09:13] supply, let's say, ecosystems that today in the literature a
[00:09:16] interesting concept is handled, which are groundwater-dependent ecosystems,
[00:09:20] and there are different
[00:09:23] the hydrological conditions of different
[00:09:26] aquifers. On the other hand, it will also be necessary to guarantee
[00:09:30] a plan, to carry out a plan of prevention and mitigation of
[00:09:33] all operational risks related to hydraulic fracturing processes
[00:09:37] and projects, and it will have to be a dynamic plan that adapts
[00:09:41] according to the consequences. It will also be necessary to guarantee the recycling
[00:09:45] and correct disposal of the water that is handled and of all the
[00:09:48] materials used in the
[00:09:56] I said initially, well, Dr.
[00:09:59] Almamérica already commented on it, in these unconventional reservoirs,
[00:10:03] because the gas is immersed, it is trapped in a
[00:10:07] rock of very low permeability, the gas cannot flow naturally and
[00:10:11] the rock needs to be broken so that the gas can flow through something
[00:10:15] we call secondary permeability and how is the rock broken? A
[00:10:18] pressurizing fluid is injected at very high pressures,
[00:10:22] 90% of this pressurizing fluid is composed of water. Therefore,
[00:10:25] significant volumes of water are required. International literature
[00:10:29] and experiences, particularly in the United States, establish that today a
[00:10:33] hydraulic fracturing well requires 50,000 to
[00:10:36] 70,000 m3 of water, so these are
[00:10:39] significant volumes, and we delve deep
[00:10:43] into the water group to analyze these aspects, and the first
[00:10:47] recommendation we make is that under no circumstances should fresh
[00:10:50] water be used, that is, surface water,
[00:10:54] groundwater that is already committed
[00:10:58] to satisfying different uses, human consumption, agriculture,
[00:11:01] livestock. This is a recommendation we make very
[00:11:04] explicitly. In the same vein, what we are
[00:11:07] considering is that exclusively
[00:11:11] salt water be used. Where is this salt water found? Well, in the subsurface, at
[00:11:14] great depths, on the order of 1, 1500 meters deep,
[00:11:17] there are already some preliminary estimates that
[00:11:21] indicate that there are geological formations that contain salt
[00:11:25] water in their interior, and salt water, due to its
[00:11:28] salinity characteristics and some other hydrogeochemical
[00:11:31] characteristics, is not suitable in any way for human
[00:11:34] consumption, so we are recommending that this
[00:11:37] could be the ideal source to extract the
[00:11:41] salt water and fracture the rocks and thus be able to recover
[00:11:44] the unconventional gas. Also, on the other hand, the third
[00:11:48] recommendation we make in the group is to reuse and
[00:11:51] recycle at least 75% of the water
[00:11:54] used in the processes. When water
[00:11:57] is injected to fracture the rock, a
[00:12:00] fluid called flowback water is also
[00:12:03] recovered later, and today international
[00:12:06] experiences show that it is possible to recycle a
[00:12:10] large amount of this water, thus minimizing new
[00:12:14] water sources for subsequent wells. So, we are
[00:12:17] stipulating that we should recover at least
[00:12:20] 75% for the different processes, and
[00:12:24] above all, and this is the fourth recommendation we make in the
[00:12:27] water group, it is necessary to carry out monitoring of the quality
[00:12:31] of both surface water and groundwater. Before any type of
[00:12:34] operation begins, we must carry out monitoring of
[00:12:38] rivers, lakes, springs, and of course, shallow
[00:12:42] aquifers to determine at this moment what are the
[00:12:45] current water quality characteristics and to be able to make a comparison
[00:12:49] in this regard. Well, regarding additives,
[00:12:52] why are additives used? Because this
[00:12:55] pressurizing fluid, which I already said is 90%
[00:12:59] water, is mixed with a series of chemical additives that fulfill a series
[00:13:03] of purposes, and so our recommendations, the recommendation of the
[00:13:06] social and environmental impacts group, establishes number
[00:13:09] one, that highly toxic or harmful chemicals should
[00:13:13] not be used, neither for the environment nor for health. Today there has
[00:13:16] already been a very interesting evolution of additives.
[00:13:19] In the first hydraulic fracturing processes in the United
[00:13:23] States and other parts of the world, many harmful
[00:13:27] chemicals were used. Today, it has already been decided to use
[00:13:30] more environmentally friendly additives, and the first
[00:13:34] recommendation is that we use these chemicals that can harm
[00:13:38] the environment. The second aspect is
[00:13:41] to prioritize the use of closed circuits for the
[00:13:44] storage and treatment of flowback water. This flowback is treated,
[00:13:48] but it must be treated on the surface, in closed circuits
[00:13:51] with infrastructure integrity
[00:13:55] to minimize environmental impact and so that it can be returned again
[00:13:58] for refracturing, and we believe that it is very important that everything that is
[00:14:02] generated can be open to society and therefore
[00:14:05] that the list of additives being used,
[00:14:09] the volume of water being used, and the management it is being
[00:14:12] given can be reported and published openly, for example,
[00:14:16] we think of opening a website, an internet page, so that
[00:14:19] all information related to this
[00:14:26] Well, regarding the requirements then to
[00:14:29] specifically evaluate the technical, environmental, and economic
[00:14:33] viability in the exploitation of unconventional
[00:14:36] gas, we consider the following aspects: number one,
[00:14:40] as I said before, we recommend using salt
[00:14:43] water, so the first thing to do
[00:14:47] is indeed to confirm that salt water exists
[00:14:51] and that the required volumes exist. As I said before, there are different
[00:14:55] entities, IMTA and IMP, which have carried out very interesting
[00:14:58] studies in which it has been preliminarily determined that
[00:15:01] these deep geological formations exist, but now what
[00:15:05] we are proposing is that beyond carrying out
[00:15:09] indirect techniques such as geophysics, which are very
[00:15:12] important techniques, we are proposing to drill a series of
[00:15:15] deep wells, but I allow myself to clarify, these
[00:15:19] are not wells to extract gas, they are wells
[00:15:22] for hydrogeological research purposes
[00:15:25] to determine that salt water indeed exists, that it has
[00:15:29] specific volumes and that it has hydrogeochemical characteristics
[00:15:33] suitable for carrying out the fracturing.
[00:15:35] Once it is proven that the
[00:15:38] necessary volume and salt water
[00:15:41] exist, we are considering something very important:
[00:15:44] that it will be necessary to prove that the
[00:15:47] deep geological formation that contains the salt water
[00:15:50] is hydraulically disconnected from both the
[00:15:54] unconventional deposits that are going to be exploited, in the north the
[00:15:57] main exploration target is the Eagle Ford
[00:16:00] formation which represents a geological continuity with the Eagle Ford in
[00:16:04] Texas, and above all, that the deep
[00:16:07] salty geological formations are disconnected from the fresh
[00:16:10] water aquifers. This will provide certainty because often in the
[00:16:14] subsurface there are different aquifers that communicate with each other, where
[00:16:17] water passes from one horizon to another horizon. This would generate
[00:16:21] in the long term an impact on the aquifers, and therefore it will be necessary
[00:16:25] to demonstrate with a series of geological, geophysical,
[00:16:28] hydrogeological studies that there is an hydraulic disconnection between the deep
[00:16:31] salt water and the shallow aquifers that today serve for
[00:16:35] supply, human consumption, agriculture, the region, etcetera,
[00:16:38] and of course, as I said
[00:16:41] the quality of surface water and groundwater. It will be necessary
[00:16:45] to design a network of wells,
[00:16:48] a piezometric network, and it will be necessary to systematically
[00:16:51] sample rivers, streams, aquifers, shallow
[00:16:54] wells, water wheels, springs, to determine
[00:16:58] something that we call in hydrogeology the baseline,
[00:17:01] the water ecosystem baseline. This is
[00:17:04] like having a current photograph of the current quality of
[00:17:07] surface and groundwater that will allow us to make a
[00:17:11] comparison once the exploitation of unconventional
[00:17:14] deposits is carried out to be able to determine if
[00:17:18] there is any impact on the hydrogeochemical
[00:17:21] degradation of surface
[00:17:29] today there is a very rough estimate of the prospective
[00:17:33] unconventional gas resources.
[00:17:36] It is important to move from prospective
[00:17:40] resources to reserves, which is a much more specific
[00:17:44] number, and for this, for the estimation of reserves, it will be
[00:17:48] necessary to also drill a series of exploratory wells and carry out
[00:17:51] different reservoir engineering techniques to be able
[00:17:54] to, number one, move from prospective resources to
[00:17:58] reserves, and once the reserves are available, confirm something very
[00:18:01] important, which will be the economic viability of the project, and
[00:18:05] now determine financially, economically, if the project is
[00:18:08] viable. And on the other hand, also always verify the
[00:18:11] applicability of technologies with less environmental impact. This
[00:18:15] unconventional hydrocarbon industry is very large worldwide,
[00:18:18] and new techniques, new methodologies are constantly
[00:18:22] emerging. So, a recommendation we make is that these techniques
[00:18:26] must always be verified to carry out pilot tests
[00:18:30] and proof-of-concept tests, validate technological advances that are state-of-the-art,
[00:18:33] and always use new methods that minimize environmental
[00:18:42] we have 10 conclusions that we want to present to you. The first
[00:18:46] conclusion, as Dr. Almamérica already commented in great
[00:18:49] detail, definitely the priority of our country must be
[00:18:52] to very quickly incorporate new renewable sources
[00:18:56] of electricity generation. It is a very important conclusion. The
[00:18:59] second conclusion is that measures and programs for energy
[00:19:03] efficiency must be implemented at a national level. The third
[00:19:06] conclusion is that it is fundamental to increase national conventional
[00:19:10] natural gas production, as has been discussed, and to eliminate
[00:19:19] well, the fourth recommendation is that, as already established and for
[00:19:22] the reasons explained in this presentation, we recommend
[00:19:26] prohibiting natural gas extraction activities from unconventional
[00:19:29] reservoirs in the Tampico Misantla basin.
[00:19:33] Conclusion number five, and as I mentioned a moment ago,
[00:19:38] of wells from the point of view of hydrogeological research
[00:19:42] to confirm the existence of salt water bodies and
[00:19:46] to determine that there is a hydraulic disconnection between salt water bodies
[00:19:50] and shallow aquifers that today are the main source of
[00:20:00] to continue, as point number six, it is
[00:20:04] recommended to confirm natural gas reserves in
[00:20:07] unconventional reservoirs through
[00:20:10] studies and well drilling, which form
[00:20:13] part of an integral program
[00:20:17] that specifically considers
[00:20:20] the sweet spots, the so-called sweet spots, and
[00:20:24] that adopts the latest generation technologies
[00:20:28] in both exploration and exploitation. As point
[00:20:31] number seven, the best practices in terms of
[00:20:34] waste management should be implemented.
[00:20:37] I would like to highlight that it is recommended
[00:20:41] to call them less harmful by-products of valorization
[00:20:45] and environmental protection actions, why? Because it was identified
[00:20:49] in the group that the international trend is not to transition
[00:20:52] from a disposal model to a valorization
[00:20:56] model, which is
[00:20:59] known as the circular economy, where these
[00:21:03] by-products that are generated can be
[00:21:12] prior, free, and informed consultations with the population in the
[00:21:16] areas of influence before starting any
[00:21:20] production activity. Nine, local
[00:21:23] supply must be encouraged to promote
[00:21:26] regional employment, as
[00:21:29] well as national content, and
[00:21:33] finally, but not least importantly, it is recommended
[00:21:36] to establish an external and independent scientific
[00:21:40] monitoring system that supports the verification
[00:21:42] of aquifer integrity, the water balance of the
[00:21:46] producing regions, seismic
[00:21:49] activity, the protection of ecosystems, among
[00:21:53] others, and that provides permanent technical
[00:22:11] how we work on different topics,
[00:22:15] advised, supported by a scientific
[00:22:18] committee, which allows us to evaluate, also
[00:22:22] with a scientific committee from different points of
[00:22:25] view, which allows us to evaluate in this
[00:22:28] case the possible production of unconventional gas
[00:22:31] in our country, and they were very clear in the 10
[00:22:35] recommendations: first, before
[00:22:38] starting
[00:22:40] any
[00:22:42] exploitation of unconventional natural gas, it is
[00:22:46] necessary to strengthen renewable energy sources; two,
[00:22:50] to use energy more efficiently, meaning
[00:22:54] efficiency equipment that allows us
[00:22:56] to have the same service but with other
[00:23:00] generation, production, and energy consumption
[00:23:04] equipment; three, to use the gas
[00:23:08] that is flared into the atmosphere; four,
[00:23:11] to utilize
[00:23:14] the potential that still exists for conventional gas in
[00:23:18] our country. Now,
[00:23:21] to talk about unconventional gas, they ask us
[00:23:24] to prohibit the exploitation of unconventional
[00:23:28] gas in the Tampico Misantla
[00:23:31] basin, which is mainly
[00:23:33] Veracruz and a part of southern Tamaulipas.
[00:23:37] because it is socially and environmentally unviable,
[00:23:41] so we are
[00:23:44] going to recognize it, and
[00:23:46] then what they tell us is before
[00:23:50] starting any unconventional gas production,
[00:23:52] first make sure that there is
[00:23:55] saltwater in the subsoil,
[00:23:59] because fresh water cannot be used, because that fresh water
[00:24:02] is committed to human consumption and for agricultural
[00:24:05] irrigation and for other activities, so
[00:24:09] make sure that in the subsoil of the other basins
[00:24:12] there is saltwater that can be used for this, what
[00:24:16] do they have to do to make sure there is saltwater, drill experimental
[00:24:20] wells, to see how much water there is
[00:24:23] at depth and what quality of water it has
[00:24:27] to know if it is feasible to use in unconventional
[00:24:30] gas production, another
[00:24:33] is, make sure there really is gas,
[00:24:36] uh, don't start producing without
[00:24:39] guaranteeing that there really is unconventional
[00:24:42] gas there, so we ask
[00:24:45] them to continue accompanying us, oh well and
[00:24:49] another thing as you saw is that they continue accompanying the
[00:24:51] experts, that all the information be public, transparent
[00:24:55] and
[00:24:57] also that there be a public consultation before starting any
[00:25:01] type of production in the area, so that the
[00:25:04] population, in the case of nearby population and some
[00:25:08] desert areas,
[00:25:10] but in the case of nearby population, that a consultation be held to see
[00:25:14] if people agree, an informed consultation where the
[00:25:18] people who live nearby can tell us if they agree or
[00:25:22] disagree with this type of exploitation, we ask
[00:25:26] them to continue accompanying us because these are some first
[00:25:30] preliminary conclusions,
[00:25:32] going forward with the drilling of wells to see if
[00:25:36] there is saltwater in the subsoil, well, we still
[00:25:40] want the support of the 54 experts and to continue
[00:25:44] working so that if there is unconventional gas
[00:25:47] that can be used,
[00:25:50] they tell us what technologies to use so that water can be
[00:25:53] recycled, so that
[00:25:56] very toxic substances are not
[00:26:00] used and that most of that water
[00:26:04] is recycled, so the truth is that
[00:26:08] I congratulate you because it is an extraordinary
[00:26:11] work and we are going to take all the
[00:26:13] conclusions that they gave us and what we would
[00:26:17] do would be to start from the Mexican Institute of Water Technology
[00:26:20] with exploratory water wells to see if there is
[00:26:23] saltwater, because if there is no saltwater, then the
[00:26:27] possibility of any type of unconventional
[00:26:31] gas exploitation is closed. So the first thing,
[00:26:34] transparently, is where the saltwater drilling well will
[00:26:37] be done and that they continue to accompany
[00:26:41] us to guarantee that indeed what
[00:26:44] we are finding is feasible to continue using,
[00:26:48] so what I propose to the people of Mexico is to
[00:26:52] continue working and every two months, two and a half months,
[00:26:55] as the conclusions come, continue informing in the
[00:26:58] morning press conference and also have a special
[00:27:02] page in the Ministry of Energy and the Ministry of
[00:27:05] Science, Technology, Humanities
[00:27:08] and Innovation, so that all Mexicans can
[00:27:12] see the information. In addition, the studies
[00:27:16] that were carried out during these two and a half months or almost
[00:27:19] three months will be made available to the public
[00:27:22] also on these platforms that will be
[00:27:26] linked to the website of the Ministry of Energy and that of Science,
[00:27:30] Technology and Innovation. The SEMARNAT is also
[00:27:33] accompanying us in this whole process, it is not here today
[00:27:36] with us, but it has been accompanying us and as you can
[00:27:40] see, they are the best experts in Mexico on energy
[00:27:44] planning, renewable energy sources, energy
[00:27:47] efficiency, conventional gas,
[00:27:51] reduction of gas flaring in conventional
[00:27:54] wells as well, the best experts in water, in
[00:27:58] water recycling as well,
[00:28:01] regarding what would have to do directly with the
[00:28:05] exploitation of unconventional gas, so these
[00:28:08] are the conclusions, we take them as they are
[00:28:11] and well, we are going to start with the
[00:28:15] following works transparently and in about
[00:28:19] two months, two and a half months, we will return to the morning
[00:28:23] conference to inform if we found saltwater,
[00:28:26] what type of water it is or if the
[00:28:29] processes are still
[00:28:33] under review, first of all, of the
[00:28:35] characteristics of the water that could be used in the
[00:28:38] exploitation of these
[00:28:57] from Revista Fortuna, President, fracking was conceived in the United
[00:29:00] States for high price environments. Uh, what
[00:29:03] will happen with this option and with low prices,
[00:29:07] I'd like to ask you what range of high prices
[00:29:10] are observed in this project, we still need the
[00:29:14] economic feasibility that they will also help us with to see
[00:29:18] how much exploitation costs and how much a cubic foot of
[00:29:22] gas would cost to know what we would do with
[00:29:26] this study,
[00:29:29] now what is the objective of this, not
[00:29:32] to depend so much on the outside, even though even with all
[00:29:36] the exploitation that would be done of unconventional gas, we would
[00:29:39] continue importing from the United States, the
[00:29:43] objective is to lower imports, so that
[00:29:46] we do not depend so much on the outside, this is something that Mexico seeks,
[00:29:50] no, all countries in the world seek to guarantee their
[00:29:53] energy sovereignty, so the economic
[00:29:56] part will also continue to be worked
[00:29:59] on by the experts. What
[00:30:03] type of technologies will also evidently be something to
[00:30:06] take into account, thank you very much President, if
[00:30:09] you could also explain in more detail what the
[00:30:12] conditions are, scientifically, what are the
[00:30:15] conditions to consider if in certain
[00:30:18] states like Coahuila and why not in states like
[00:30:22] Tampico, well Veracruz
[00:30:25] mainly the southern part of
[00:30:27] Tamaulipas,
[00:30:30] first the type of...
[00:30:32] issues,
[00:30:34] the population that is there, that are densely populated areas
[00:30:38] and
[00:30:41] it was considered that due to environmental and social conditions,
[00:30:45] according to what the experts explained to us, that area
[00:30:48] should, uh, the exploitation of unconventional
[00:30:51] gas should be prohibited and start analyzing