CANALCATORCE — broadcast 20260807 010000 UTC 532 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:06] Next, mañanera [00:00:07] 360. [00:00:14] Good morning, welcome to [00:00:17] Mañanera 360, Thursday's conference from the National [00:00:21] Palace, Mañanera del Pueblo on Thursday by President Claudia [00:00:25] Sheinbaum, among the topics, among the messages that stand out today. [00:00:29] national sovereignty is also energy [00:00:32] sovereignty, at least Mexico must stop [00:00:35] depending more and more on foreign [00:00:38] countries. Today, President Claudia Sheinbaum supports [00:00:42] the advances in scientific opinions on the [00:00:46] points that are marked in possibility of exploiting unconventional gas in our country, [00:00:49] emphasizing that no country can [00:00:52] truly proclaim itself independent if it hands [00:00:56] over control of its electricity to other countries, you see. [00:01:03] Very happy, Miguel, we start Thursday, it's a pleasure to be with our dear [00:01:06] audience, women in history closes with Chavela [00:01:10] Vargas, other topics are touched upon from the National Palace, [00:01:14] including the meeting that President Claudia Sheinbaum had yesterday with the [00:01:17] Secretary of the Vatican, the details we will have here in Mañanera [00:01:21] 360, prepare your coffee because we are [00:01:22] starting. [00:01:36] Mañanera 3:60 we [00:01:39] give you the information, we give [00:01:42] you the information, tomorrow was [00:01:44] 3:60, tomorrow was [00:01:47] 3:60, we give [00:01:50] this morning by the director of the Faculty of Engineering of that water is recycled, you the information, we give you the information, tomorrow was [00:01:54] 3:60, because here we inform you, [00:01:57] we do it from the heart. [00:02:01] they establish. And with We open the conference for the whole nation, [00:02:18] to have the information from we start with the Mañanera 360 of this Thursday, today we talk about the possibility of [00:02:22] exploiting unconventional gas in our country, [00:02:25] you remember it, you know it, currently [00:02:28] entrepreneurs, the presence about 75%. [00:02:30] of elements of the National of the gas we consume in our country comes from abroad, [00:02:34] mainly from the United States, what would happen if Donald [00:02:38] Trump says and I knock on wood for that to happen, if the United [00:02:41] States government says, I'm not going to sell gas to Mexico anymore, we could face [00:02:45] a severe crisis, that's why Mexico is looking to [00:02:48] extract the gas that we have within our [00:02:51] territory so as not to depend so much on foreign countries, because [00:02:55] energy security, energy sovereignty [00:02:59] also has to... to do with the security of the Mexican [00:03:02] state, many other topics were discussed as well, for example, today the topic [00:03:05] of Mexican avocado is discussed because in the United States people are starting to [00:03:09] raise an eyebrow about the topic of avocado and [00:03:12] other other vegetables, other fruits also in our country, you will [00:03:16] also see why this topic was discussed in the national palace, how did you see the [00:03:19] conference, this fundamental topic is touched upon and [00:03:23] it is worth understanding that in times where not only [00:03:27] tariffs have become a form of international [00:03:32] gas with the elimination of geopolitical extortion, but also energy, we see it in the case of the [00:03:34] island of Cuba which has suffered a blockade not only economic, [00:03:38] but also energy and that is putting at risk the lives [00:03:42] of so many people, what Mexico is looking for is to understand [00:03:45] what can happen in the future [00:03:48] consult the people what they and prevent it with an integral strategy, with [00:03:51] experts that we will also be listening to later, but what do you think if we [00:03:55] go to the National Palace where our dear colleague Miguel is. [00:03:58] What a pleasure to greet you, how are you, good [00:04:02] morning, greetings Arlín tocayo from [00:04:05] the National Palace, Thursday's conference, today, this group [00:04:09] of experts who analyzed all this issue of the [00:04:13] hydroelectric project of exploitation of unconventional gas in Mexican territory presented [00:04:17] some of their conclusions, among them [00:04:20] mainly, first an analysis [00:04:23] was made about the technical [00:04:25] not be in our country, he will be viability of all the [00:04:26] are guaranteed, conditions that exist in the region [00:04:28] to determine if there are environmental conditions so that there is no [00:04:32] environmental damage, if there are conditions even so that there are no [00:04:35] affectations in the communities economically, [00:04:39] also analyzed was all this issue of what [00:04:43] is necessary to do in these areas for the exploitation of unconventional [00:04:46] gas, it is about having these [00:04:49] saltwater deposits that do not have [00:04:53] connection with some other water sources with the intention of [00:04:56] not causing affectations for shallow [00:04:59] waters that are the water that can be suitable for human consumption, so [00:05:03] the intention is not to cause affectations in [00:05:06] the communities in this way, they found that there are three [00:05:10] basins in our country, one of them is not viable, it is the [00:05:13] Tampico Misantla, [00:05:15] that is not viable, however the Sabinas Burros [00:05:19] Picachos which is between Coahuila [00:05:23] and Nuevo León and the Burgos which is in the northwest of Tamaulipas, these are [00:05:26] viable, with these one could start to make [00:05:30] drillings for exploration, first to [00:05:33] find this salt water that is necessary for this process [00:05:37] and what is the intention, the intention is first to analyze that this [00:05:40] exploitation is viable. Why, because it is important for energy [00:05:44] sovereignty, it is sought [00:05:47] to reduce dependence on the United States to [00:05:51] have natural gas in our country, as [00:05:54] Tocayo Orsate mentioned, 75% of [00:05:58] natural gas consumption in our country comes precisely from the United [00:06:02] States, with the exploitation of these deposits it could be [00:06:05] reduced to 50%. An important [00:06:08] step in search of energy sovereignty, however it is not the [00:06:12] only thing that is being done, other alternatives are still being [00:06:16] explored with renewable energies such as [00:06:19] wind energy, photovoltaic energy, among [00:06:22] others with the intention of reducing dependence [00:06:26] on the United States, how important it is to [00:06:29] have our own energy alternatives so that we do not [00:06:33] depend precisely on other countries and that, [00:06:36] as it is said, the tap is not closed, then it would be a severe [00:06:40] problem for our country. Also, what was discussed today, [00:06:43] well, the president mentions that [00:06:46] there was a meeting with these avocado entrepreneurs [00:06:50] after the withdrawal of these inspectors from the United [00:06:54] States, we remember that for this avocado [00:06:58] export agreement to the United States, well, it is necessary that [00:07:01] these inspectors are in our country, [00:07:04] they supervise that the orchards and the production [00:07:07] process is carried out according to the standards [00:07:13] the withdrawal, obviously, exports are limited, what is the [00:07:16] intention, well, to meet with authorities from the [00:07:20] United States to reach these agreements, even if they are perhaps inspectors from [00:07:24] Senasica who are in these inspections [00:07:28] with the intention that exports of this important [00:07:31] product are not reduced, especially in this region of Michoacán, [00:07:35] also in this meeting with the avocado [00:07:43] Guard in some territories of the entity was [00:07:46] also discussed, the president also talks about this meeting [00:07:49] she had with the Secretary of State of the Vatican, Pietro [00:07:53] Parolin, with whom she talks about this [00:07:56] invitation to Pope Leo [00:07:59] XIV with the intention that he comes to our country, however, [00:08:02] due to agenda issues, at this time he will only visit [00:08:06] three South American countries, among them Peru, [00:08:09] we remember that Pope Leo XIV has [00:08:13] an important link with Peru, in fact he was in charge of that [00:08:16] diocese of Lima for a long [00:08:19] time, so there is this connection, however the [00:08:22] invitation is still open, also discussed was [00:08:25] this encyclical of Pope Leo XIV regarding [00:08:29] the use of artificial intelligence and how [00:08:32] in Mexico this debate has also opened up and [00:08:36] lastly, President Claudia Sheinbaum also spoke about this [00:08:39] exercise of transparency that is carried out [00:08:42] in our country, this group of experts that precisely proposes [00:08:46] this project, but with very clear [00:08:49] and very transparent analysis precisely so that [00:08:53] all the population can know, well, the president [00:08:56] regarding this issue of the right of audiences to truthful [00:09:00] information mentions it, right? Just [00:09:04] as we do this exercise, it is also proposed that communication [00:09:07] companies also carry out this exercise as [00:09:11] part of their code of ethics, a little of what was discussed today [00:09:14] here at the morning conference at the National [00:09:17] Palace, [00:09:20] there are the main topics of this morning at the National Palace, Tocayo, [00:09:23] indeed something that several reporter colleagues wanted to know [00:09:27] is if Pope Leo XIV will be visiting our [00:09:30] country, well, for now the president says the information that is available [00:09:34] is that due to his agenda he will [00:09:37] in the diocese of Chiclayo in Peru where Pope [00:09:41] Leo XIV carried out a large part of his [00:09:44] apostolate, Pope Leo XIV, a pope who [00:09:47] was born in the United States, but with a lot, [00:09:51] a lot, a lot, very rooted in Latin America for his apostolate [00:09:54] work he had in Peru and hopefully, hopefully, [00:09:58] I mean, right now it's like this, hopefully later the [00:10:01] possibility changes and there is a space to visit our country, but for now [00:10:04] the president has the information that due to his agenda he will [00:10:07] not be in our country, tocayo, what will [00:10:10] be the question for this Thursday? To the poll, well, we are going to [00:10:14] ask the population if Mexico should depend [00:10:17] less on the import of natural gas from other countries, [00:10:21] perfect, we'll see you in a moment, we'll see you in a while. [00:10:30] The main [00:10:30] course: [00:10:36] we go directly to the main course that today tastes of [00:10:39] national sovereignty, energy [00:10:42] sovereignty. Almost 4 months ago, the Mexican [00:10:45] government formed a committee, a group of [00:10:49] Mexican scientists who carry out their [00:10:53] work in our country and also outside our borders, that is, [00:10:56] abroad, this group of scientists sought [00:11:00] to analyze with technical rigor, with scientific [00:11:03] rigor, the possibility of ending [00:11:06] the vulnerability that our country has in [00:11:09] terms of gas, why do we mention it at the beginning [00:11:13] of this space, Mexico depends heavily [00:11:16] on the gas that is brought to us from abroad, mainly from the United [00:11:20] States. What will this committee be in charge [00:11:23] of doing? And today it presented the first advance of these studies [00:11:27] it is carrying out, to see the possibility of exploiting unconventional [00:11:30] gas in our country, a gas that can be used [00:11:34] for domestic use, for [00:11:37] industrial use, this unconventional gas is trapped [00:11:40] in rocks at great [00:11:42] depth, to extract it, one [00:11:45] possibility is hydraulic fracturing, today, today [00:11:49] it was particularly discussed how these [00:11:53] advances are going, these scientific studies. to see if it is possible or not [00:11:57] to exploit unconventional gas in our country, but something very important today [00:12:00] all that the scientists are seeing was discussed [00:12:03] and something very interesting is that in this group of scientists [00:12:07] there are people dedicated to the study of the environment [00:12:11] who defend the protection of the environment and today it was [00:12:15] discussed that with this hydraulic fracturing [00:12:18] fresh water should not be used, that is, water that could [00:12:22] be used for homes, if it is being talked about that [00:12:25] salt water should be used, now [00:12:29] it was said which regions of the country should not [00:12:32] be sought, explored to exploit unconventional [00:12:35] gas, where it should, and those places where unconventional [00:12:38] gas can be exploited, not using fresh water, but [00:12:42] salt water, another very important thing, consult the [00:12:45] population where a project of unconventional gas [00:12:48] exploitation could be carried out, Arlin, and on [00:12:52] this it is worth understanding what the reality is. and the [00:12:55] current situation in the world, we are seeing [00:12:59] that in these times not only a commercial war is being [00:13:02] carried out with tariffs, but also natural [00:13:06] resources have become a way in which sovereignty [00:13:09] can be defended, and on this it is worth [00:13:12] understanding which are the countries that produce the most natural [00:13:16] gas, in the first place is the United States with one billion [00:13:19] cubic meters, then there is Russia, [00:13:22] Iran, China, if you look closely. [00:13:25] are countries that have also sought to have their autonomy not only [00:13:28] energy but also national sovereignty [00:13:32] and sadly Mexico is the country that depends most on [00:13:36] the United States with more than 70% of the gas, we are [00:13:39] the country that buys the most natural gas from the United States, then there is [00:13:42] Canada, Nicaragua and Jordan. What the president says [00:13:46] goes much further than just gas [00:13:49] as such, it seeks to defend sovereignty so that when the United States decides [00:13:53] what it decides, it does not affect Mexicans [00:13:57] in their daily lives, this is not only [00:14:00] talking about the Donald Trump government, looking to the future so that Mexico [00:14:04] can be independent in the use of its natural resources [00:14:07] is fundamental for any negotiation when talking [00:14:11] about national sovereignty. Today this issue is discussed [00:14:15] and it is also sought that our country can innovate in the [00:14:19] way in which this gas is extracted, so [00:14:22] important for daily life. Let's listen. [00:14:27] In the framework of energy sovereignty, [00:14:30] to avoid depending more and [00:14:33] more on foreign countries, we [00:14:36] have publicly opened the possibility [00:14:39] of using unconventional gas in certain areas [00:14:42] of the country, where social justice [00:14:46] and minimal environmental impacts [00:14:51] 70% of the light that illuminates [00:14:53] us in this room comes from [00:14:55] unconventional [00:14:58] gas, only not from Mexico, from the United [00:15:02] States, in the framework of energy sovereignty, what we must do [00:15:04] responsibly [00:15:06] is to protect communities, protect people, protect [00:15:10] the environment, and sovereignty requires energy [00:15:13] sovereignty, at [00:15:15] least [00:15:18] to prevent us from continuing to depend more and [00:15:21] more on foreign [00:15:23] countries, that is a goal for all countries [00:15:26] in the world, [00:15:28] now, if the Dos Bocas refinery had not [00:15:32] been built, [00:15:34] we would be depending on imported gasoline. [00:15:38] At a time when [00:15:41] there is a shortage of imported gasoline in the [00:15:44] world due to the conflict in [00:15:46] Iran, how have Japan, [00:15:50] South Korea, etc. fared? Many [00:15:54] countries, India, [00:15:57] because it is not available as it was [00:16:00] before, so the same applies to giving [00:16:04] Mexico viability in the long term. Guarantee [00:16:08] more and more energy sovereignty. [00:16:11] Today, the first results of the analysis of unconventional [00:16:14] gas in Mexico were presented, with the aim of achieving energy [00:16:17] sovereignty. The work led by the scientific community was [00:16:21] carried out in four commissions: engineering, water, [00:16:25] impact and planning and foresight, all aimed [00:16:28] at environmental protection and social and financial analysis. As part of [00:16:32] this process, dialogue tables were held with the Ministry of [00:16:35] Energy with Mexican Petroleum, the National Water [00:16:39] Commission, the Ministry of Environment and Natural Resources, as [00:16:42] well as with specialists from the United States and [00:16:45] Canada. These tables allowed for contrasting [00:16:48] information, incorporating the experience of the responsible [00:16:51] institutions and strengthening the analysis. The panorama in Mexico [00:16:54] is as follows: natural gas consumption is 9.1 billion [00:16:58] cubic feet per day, 70% is used in electricity [00:17:02] generation, while in other sectors lower [00:17:05] percentages are used. Since 2000. That's right, natural gas imports have increased [00:17:09] every year to supply demand, the country imports 75% [00:17:13] of its natural gas from the United States, which compromises Mexico's [00:17:17] energy sovereignty and security. These are deposits [00:17:20] that are trapped in rocks of [00:17:24] very, very low permeability, I'm going to get into, pardon me, [00:17:27] technically, into rocks in formations that [00:17:31] have very low permeability, very [00:17:34] low porosity, so that to be able to [00:17:38] exploit them they require special techniques for their [00:17:41] extraction and only 7%, there [00:17:45] is the amount, are conventional deposits [00:17:48] that are the deposits that are normally [00:17:52] exploited in Mexico. To strengthen the country's energy sovereignty, [00:17:56] four strategies must be promoted: increase electricity [00:17:59] generation with renewable energy, make increasingly efficient use of [00:18:03] energy, increase national production of unconventional [00:18:07] natural gas in deposits and reduce gas flaring in oil fields [00:18:10] and of course protect the environment. The Mexican government has already presented [00:18:14] a plan to increase renewable electricity generation [00:18:17] related to the scientific committee's proposal. The [00:18:21] projection for 2030 contemplates an increase of 38% in [00:18:25] renewable electricity generation and cogeneration to more than 90 [00:18:28] TWh, more than 22,000 MW of new clean [00:18:31] capacity and efficient cogeneration of 1500 MW in the use [00:18:34] of heat in industrial processes. The committee's idea includes [00:18:38] the development of an energy efficiency plan to avoid greater [00:18:42] natural gas consumption in large consuming industries with standards [00:18:45] focused on home appliances and industrial machinery. Finally, [00:18:49] Pemex must implement a plan to increase natural gas supply with [00:18:53] conventional production. If we focus on this [00:18:55] point, it is [00:18:57] something we could [00:19:00] increase, according to calculations, [00:19:03] up to 2.4 billion cubic feet of rural [00:19:09] flaring in oil fields and greater activity in conventional [00:19:13] fields that we still have in [00:19:16] Mexico. What has been projected so far is the reduction of dependence on [00:19:20] imported natural gas through renewable measures, however, the [00:19:23] result still does not reach Mexico's energy sovereignty. [00:19:27] It is a work that highlights the participation of the scientific community [00:19:30] in public decision-making. Mañanera [00:19:33] 3:60. [00:19:36] And talking about energy sovereignty also means having historical memory, [00:19:40] Lázaro Cárdenas understood it with the oil expropriation [00:19:44] in 1938, what is sought now is to update [00:19:47] those struggles and understand that natural gas is not only for [00:19:51] cooking, it exists for different things, the electricity we have [00:19:54] in our homes, which is at this moment in this study, [00:19:58] drying, air conditioning, transportation, commerce, [00:20:02] manufacturing, that is, the industry of our country, [00:20:05] requires natural gas, that's why... that's why today it is worth listening [00:20:09] to the 58 experts who will continue with this [00:20:12] research to follow up on the conclusions with [00:20:16] better technology and see if there is salt water to then [00:20:19] drill exploration wells, because this [00:20:23] is important because let's remember that fracking [00:20:26] that has historically been used and that is where the United [00:20:30] States produces the natural gas that we currently [00:20:33] consume, produces excessively large quantities. [00:20:38] or requires large quantities of water, this affects the [00:20:41] environment, what is being sought is that there can [00:20:44] be energy sovereignty without the environmental [00:20:47] costs that are required for... the extraction of [00:20:51] unconventional natural gas that is done in [00:20:54] other countries in the world, Miguel. In this first [00:20:57] scientific opinion on the possibility of exploiting unconventional [00:21:00] gas in our country, the committee set 10 [00:21:04] key points with a view to establishing a plan, a [00:21:07] plan for the exploitation of unconventional gas in our country that, if applied, [00:21:10] could help to reduce the dependence [00:21:14] that Mexico currently has on foreign [00:21:17] gas. There is talk of a reduction from 75 [00:21:21] to 50%, taking advantage in a first moment [00:21:24] of 141 billion cubic feet of [00:21:28] gas, the possibility, the amount that we could [00:21:31] exploit in the short term, following 10 key [00:21:36] the conclusion, listen to how this was [00:21:39] mentioned, [00:21:42] it is a sample of how we work on different [00:21:45] issues, advised, supported [00:21:49] by a scientific committee that allows [00:21:52] us to evaluate, also with a scientific committee [00:21:56] from different points of view that allows us [00:21:59] to evaluate, in this case the possible [00:22:02] production of unconventional gas in our country, that experts [00:22:05] continue to accompany us, that all [00:22:08] information be public, transparent and also [00:22:11] that [00:22:14] there be a public consultation before starting any type of [00:22:17] production in the area. [00:22:20] and continue working so that if there is unconventional [00:22:23] gas that is feasible to use, that they tell [00:22:27] us with what technologies it should be done so that [00:22:30] water can be recycled, so that [00:22:33] very toxic substances [00:22:36] are not used and that most [00:22:40] what we would do would be to start from the Mexican Institute of Water [00:22:44] Technology, exploration wells for water, for [00:22:47] water to see if there is salt water. Well, if there is [00:22:50] no salt water, then the possibility of [00:22:54] any type of unconventional gas exploitation is closed, [00:22:57] it is to continue working and every two months, [00:23:00] two and a half months, as the conclusions come, continue [00:23:04] informing in the morning and also [00:23:06] have a special page in the Ministry of [00:23:10] Energy and in the Ministry of Science, [00:23:12] Technology, Humanities and Innovation so that all [00:23:16] Mexicans can see what the information is. [00:23:22] The president made it clear not to use fresh water, [00:23:25] to use salt water, not to use fresh water [00:23:28] so that the consumption of domestic water is not impacted, [00:23:32] to recover that water so that it is not contaminated [00:23:36] in the subsoil, also a consultation in the towns [00:23:40] where the exploitation of this unconventional gas can take place [00:23:43] and above all to protect the environment, well, what are these [00:23:46] 10 points of the conclusion that the committee of scientists presented, [00:23:50] the first point, accelerate the incorporation of renewable sources [00:23:54] of electrical energy, the second, implement measures [00:23:58] and energy efficiency programs [00:24:01] throughout the country, also national production of unconventional [00:24:05] natural gas must be increased, the fourth point, [00:24:08] prohibit not allowing activities [00:24:11] of unconventional natural gas extraction in the Tampico [00:24:15] basin, Misantla, could have a very [00:24:18] strong environmental impact in that place. That's why we don't do it at this [00:24:21] point. The fifth, the fifth [00:24:24] recommendation, the fifth point that the committee of scientists [00:24:27] establishes is to confirm the existence of saltwater through [00:24:31] well drilling. That's right, the sixth [00:24:34] is to confirm through well drilling the existence of natural [00:24:37] gas in unconventional deposits. Seventh, [00:24:40] implement environmental protection actions and best [00:24:44] practices in waste management. Eighth, [00:24:48] carry out prior consultations. The delimitation of the areas before [00:24:52] starting any activity, which was already the case in Tamaulipas [00:24:55] where indigenous communities were found, and therefore [00:24:59] this point is also discarded. [00:25:02] Ninth, incentivize local supply to [00:25:06] promote regional employment. 10, [00:25:09] establish an external and independent scientific [00:25:12] monitoring that provides permanent technical [00:25:16] advice. This is discussed from Palacio Nacional and for this, [00:25:20] experts attended. This is the case of Ana [00:25:23] Paula Gomora, head of the Earth Sciences Engineering Division [00:25:26] at UNAM, she mentions that there are three basins [00:25:29] with more than 141 million cubic [00:25:33] feet of gas, this [00:25:35] in Tampico, in Burgos, in Sabina, in Misantla and after the [00:25:39] evaluation for several reasons, the exploration [00:25:42] in the Tampico basin is discarded, this [00:25:45] is because it is a social zone where there is a vast [00:25:49] population and... This could affect it, it remains [00:25:52] to evaluate areas in Nuevo León, in Tamaulipas and in Coahuila. Let's [00:25:56] listen. [00:25:59] It was identified that the potential of natural gas [00:26:02] from unconventional deposits is estimated at [00:26:06] 141.5 million million cubic [00:26:10] feet that are mainly distributed in [00:26:13] three basins, these are Burgos, Sabinas, [00:26:16] Burropicachos and Tampico Misantla. The [00:26:20] commission recommended [00:26:24] where to and where not to carry out activities in unconventional [00:26:27] deposits, due to [00:26:30] environmental protection criteria. [00:26:32] biodiversity and demographic density, it should [00:26:36] be considered to prohibit exploitation activities [00:26:40] of unconventional natural gas [00:26:42] in the Tampico Misantla basin. [00:26:46] It recommends continuing with the evaluation to determine [00:26:50] the feasibility of developing unconventional [00:26:54] natural gas deposits in two [00:26:57] basins, in Sabinas Burro Picachos [00:27:01] located in Coahuila and Nuevo León, [00:27:04] as well as in the Burgos basin, in the northeast [00:27:07] area of Tamaulipas, [00:27:10] since there are these excavations, water mixed [00:27:14] with sand and chemicals is injected to fracture the rocks, [00:27:18] the sand keeps the rocks open and this gas can [00:27:21] be exploited, and not all regions of [00:27:25] our country have this possibility, one of these regions that the [00:27:28] country does not have is the Tampico Misantla basin, which covers [00:27:31] from Veracruz, Tamaulipas, San Luis Potosí, Hidalgo and [00:27:35] Puebla. There, no, but yes, in the north of the country, for [00:27:38] example, in Coahuila, Nuevo León and another part further north [00:27:42] of Tamaulipas, there is the possibility of carrying [00:27:45] out hydraulic fracturing for the exploitation of natural [00:27:49] gas. This was explained [00:27:53] at UNAM, José Antonio Hernández, how [00:27:55] to take advantage of the fields, well, the areas [00:27:59] that do have possibilities in our country, look at the details. [00:28:04] It is considered very important that a prior and informed [00:28:08] consultation be carried out with the population in the areas of [00:28:11] influence where this type of deposits is intended to be exploited, [00:28:14] we recommend that it be in the Burgos basin and in the Sabinas Burro Picachos basin [00:28:20] the population and their opinion. It is also very important to develop [00:28:24] local supply chains that can incentivize new [00:28:28] jobs at the local level. It is also fundamental that [00:28:31] different sources of work and economic activities be maintained [00:28:35] and at all times it is very important to minimize the superficial [00:28:38] impacts in well drilling, in the area of the [00:28:42] environment, the following recommendations are determined: [00:28:45] it is necessary to guarantee above all the preservation [00:28:48] of aquifers, especially in the north of the country where surface [00:28:51] water is quite scarce and therefore it will be necessary to preserve [00:28:55] that there is water security in the aquifers, particularly [00:28:59] those that serve for human consumption also in... those [00:29:02] that supply [00:29:05] ecosystems, on the other hand, it will also be necessary to guarantee [00:29:09] a plan, to carry out a plan of prevention and mitigation of all [00:29:13] operational risks related to the processes and projects of [00:29:16] hydraulic fracturing and it will have to be a dynamic plan that adapts [00:29:20] according to the consequences and it will also be necessary to guarantee the [00:29:23] recycling and correct disposal of the water that is [00:29:26] being managed and of all the materials used in the different [00:29:30] operations, there is no sensitivity there, in addition [00:29:33] to talking about the importance of why it is necessary to exploit unconventional [00:29:37] gas in our country, it is about always [00:29:40] having the people of Mexico at the center [00:29:43] of the discussion where a hydraulic fracturing project [00:29:47] can be carried out, [00:29:50] think, what they are worried about, what they [00:29:53] need, you will remember when in the Fox government an airport [00:29:57] project was wanted to be built in Texcoco that caused [00:30:00] discontent and led to the uprising of a group [00:30:04] of farmers who said here there cannot be an airport because of the impact it can [00:30:08] have and also because they are not asking us anything or what is [00:30:11] happening, another project, do you remember the [00:30:15] La Parota in Guerrero, they wanted to put a concrete curtain [00:30:19] over the Papagayo river, there were many legal resources [00:30:23] also in the Fox government, also that [00:30:26] six-year term in the decade of 2000 where with legal [00:30:30] resources another project that was not consulted [00:30:33] with the people and that was attempted to be imposed, the dam, [00:30:37] El Zapotillo in Jalisco, they wanted [00:30:40] to flood towns, flood towns to, [00:30:43] according to them, have a project that was going to benefit, yes, it was going to benefit a [00:30:47] small group, but it was going to affect a lot, well, now the government of [00:30:50] Mexico before carrying out any project, in addition to doing the [00:30:54] study, seeing the possibility, always consult the people of [00:30:57] Mexico, unlike the past.